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The ‘Biggest Ever’ Flotilla Of Iranian Tankers Is En Route To Venezuela With Fuel
It appears both Iran and Venezuela are ready and willing to test the outgoing Trump administration in a major gambit to skirt sanctions in a crude and fuel export scheme.
The daily American military newspaper Stars & Stripes alongside Bloomberg reports this weekend that Iran “is sending its biggest fleet yet of tankers to Venezuela in defiance of U.S. sanctions to help the isolated nation weather a crippling fuel shortage,” based on sources familiar with their movements.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/biggest-ever-flotilla-iranian-tankers-en-route-venezuela-fuel
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With the mounting evidence and voices stating that these new covid vaccines have significantly detrimental side effects (infertility in women, exacerbated response to wild covid exposure after vaccination, etc) what is your expectation of Donald Trump, who has been championing these vaccines up until this point?
Should he keep on the smile and encourage people to get it as he has been?
Should he come out and share these concerns with the American populace and encourage them to make up their own minds, political consequences be damned?
I’m curious what your opinions are.
Personally, I’m a bit concerned by his support of these vaccines for a virus that has largely had a minimal (relatively speaking) health impact on our nation. I get that he has to play the game and can’t just come out and say what we all know (that the covid numbers, specifically deaths, are a gross misrepresentation and that this pandemic is pretty much entirely manufactured), but part of me is very disappointed that he doesn’t appear to be “calling it like it is” in regards to these vaccines.
Is it possible the election fiasco is consuming so much of his time he simply isn’t in a position to address this?
After reading the side effects of the 2020 flu Vaccine and the description of the 2019 flu Mutations it is supposed to address, I cannot stand with the President on his vaccine push. Especially when the China Virus vaccine literature essentially describes itself as a repackaged 2020 flue vaccine with the same biological components as well as side effects.
Recently administered flu vaccines have rarely approach 50% effective, yet we have Big Pharma claiming 90-95% effective with no transparency into testing?? Then there is the mega doses required to achieve effect in the those younger than 65 and I can only imagine the doses for those of us over 65.
The president was alright as long as he stuck with the “we’re working hard to develop and deploy as soon as possible” message. Hopefully he tuns down the volume a bit to say, it will deployed when proven safe…yet I will still refuse to take it as the dosage and side effects are too risky at this point.
Is it concerning to you that this vaccine has to be stored at -70℃?
The Pharma companies can’t miss with a bar set as low as 90%-95% – we already have that level of wellness with no testing at all. Placebos would give you results in the same range.
This is the one area that I completely disagree with his policies. It is very upsetting to me and I really wish he would come out and stomp down this whole vaccine BS.
And in this case, I am not willing to “trust the plan” if anyone thinks there is one.
I agree. This is troubling me also. It’s like the medical mafia have taken control and I do not understand. I can only guess that PDJT is being misinformed and that he’s so very invested in blaming China and opening the economy NOW that the truth is not getting through to him of the greater health and freedom risks this is imposing on us.
I don’t like it and I will NOT comply ever with this vaccine. Just NO.
https://rairfoundation.com/warning-renowned-virologist-sucharit-bhakdi-warns-against-hastily-created-gene-altering-coronavirus-vaccine-video/
https://banned.video/watch?id=5fc9887ea232215ddef1ed44
“Top scientist warns vaccine is ‘road to your doom'”
I too have been troubled by this, as previously stated.
I love President Trump — but do not agree with the vaccine push, or even the push for 5G.
Both are highly suspect.
That said, the emphasis must FIRST be on President Trump achieving his well-deserved & earned second term.
Once that is accomplished, the focus can turn to the vaccines (and 5G).
I don’t believe there is a clamoring for a vaccine among Trump’s supporters. There is evidence of this during his rallies, where the applause is far less when he mentions vaccines, than the applause is for practically everything else.
This is an issue PDJT has pushed and taken pride in that I disagree with. My mother got deathly ill following a flu shot and ever since then I’ve been distrustful of vaccines. However his daughter is very much pro vaccine.
I am very concerned and will not be taking this vaccine. I am praying that this is a chess move by our president. He wants everyone to calm down knowing that a vaccine is on the way since the lamestream media is trying to scare the bejeebies out of us. Remember when Bob Woodward called out the president about the virus going away?? President Trump stated that he didn’t want everyone freaking out…or something to that effect.
Two things:
(1) Your last sentence (and before that, throughout the year so much else to do versus fighting the savaging propaganda while trying to prove a negative — see the media shrieking in March 2020 when he floated opening up the country, and then again re hydroxychloroquine/zinc and the “inject bleach” memes.)
(2) He’s walking a line with Big Pharma and our trade issues. We have to bring our pharmaceutical manufacturing back to the country, and e.g. Puerto Rico, from where it’s been offshored in China and Australia.
Bartiromo had Ratcliff on, Giuliani on deck to talk about “the smoking gun of the election” , Starr and Dershowitz later
I was wondering what Maria was up to today. I have been avoiding FOX news lately, although Lou Dobbs and Maria Bartiromo deserve our loyalty. What about the server that was supposedly seized? Has that been debunked?
Maria and Lou are big enough to tell Paul Rino and Lachlan to F-off, so they aren’t being reined in.
But do are Tucker, Tick Tock and Laura. So go figure
I am sure many Treepers have seen the photo of Dan Crenshaw on the World Economic Forum page. There was another well-known face to us on there. https://www.younggloballeaders.org/community?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=Maria+Bartiromo&x=12&y=8&status=alumni§or=®ion=#results
Make of that what you will.
John Ratcliffe was really good! He had written an opinion piece in the WSJ on the China threat. He stated a couple of times that this is not really an opinion piece. John mentioned how China has infiltrated politicians. Here’s a link but you have to subscribe to see the whole story.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-is-national-security-threat-no-1-11607019599
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MAGA Patriot here posting for the first time on mobile so I can view my fellow Treeper comments. We not only need to stay strong, but also stay engaged and loud! Share the truth with everyone that will listen. We are 80M strong! I’m so impressed by the courage that has been on display by American citizens in the legislature sessions. These people are risking SO MUCH to be heard and protect our country from a socialist take over. President Trump said the word “courage” multiple times last night at the rally. Stay Courageous and thanks for all you do Sundance!
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More and more are now seeing the plan……
How the CV fraud and Election fraud went hand in hand to undermine the greatest President this country has ever had along with purposely harming millions of Americans while trying to destroy this Republic.
They used CV fear to allow local government officials and not the state legislatures, to include and send out massive amounts of mail-in ballots coupled with voting machines that could alter vote count.
I pray PT has the servers and will show this alleged software/mechanical vote manipulation did indeed occur and thus this election fraud was a planned and organized coup.
Once the world sees this was always a planned election fraud coup, they should push back on the PCR test and show it too was a fraudulent test for the sole purpose of generating millions of false positives to create worldwide fear.
Ask yourself why there is not excessive total deaths here in 2020 vs 2019 or 2018 if Cv is so widespread and deadly?
Ask yourself why are they not counting flu cases and deaths this year?
Ask yourself why flu, pneumonia and even heart attack deaths are DOWN this year compared to 2019 and 2018?
Expose the servers which will expose the election fraud/coup and the people will be so pissed off that they will demand they work backwards to show the CV test was also a fraud.
IMO, do this and the outrage by the billions of people worldwide who have suffered tremendously under these evil leftists will not be able to be held back.
Thousands of these evil doers will be locked up for the rest of their lives thus bringing civility, the right of the people, justice, the rule of law back into the world while saving this great Republic.
It starts with exposing the election fraud and working back from there IMO.
It is time Mr. President!
Trump’s still pushing vaccines every chance he gets. For inexplicable reasons, he isn’t ever going to do what you just wrote.
Florida To Require Disclosure Of PCR ‘Cycle Threshold’ Data In COVID Tests
FYA: So, why is Florida doing this? There appears to be three options:
1) Pro-Trump – Florida is attempting to pre-empt the Biden Team’s plan to slash the Ct used by labs for COVID “case” which will eliminate the false positives and show “cases” plunge “thanks to Biden’s mask/lockdown/vaccine-confidence” rules.
2) Pro-Biden – Florida is beginning the ‘fake rescue’ plan outlined here (and above)
3) Pro-Science – Florida is the first state to actually pay attention to the real ‘science’ of PCR tests.
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/first-time-us-state-will-require-disclosure-pcr-test-cycle-data
BogeyFree –
Check these two stories out when you have time.
https://medium.com/berkman-klein-center/the-dangers-of-blockchain-enabled-immunity-passports-for-covid-19-5ff84cacb290
https://twitter.com/99freemind/status/1335600517104480256
thread re PCR tests outlining another serious flaw / malfeasance
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Robin Monotti Graziadei
@robinmonotti
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In this Italian lab they marked as a positive one gene test out of 3. The tested person was then deemed “positive” even with 2 out of 3 negative gene tests:
The media has pushed for people to believe their stories, and wrt the pandemic, people clearly see it is not as bad as the media is making it out to be.
The media has pushed for people to believe their stories, and wrt the election, people clearly see it is not as good as the media is making it put to be.
The media have a credibility problem due to our individual ability discern The TRUTH, and their inability to infuse integrity into their idiot fiction.
Buon Giorno
Merry Christmas
Good morning treepers. Last night’s rally was great – especially the “fight for Trump” portion. We will never give up on our President or our Country!
| UPDATE – Flynn Forensics Team in Antrim County Courthouse Has Removed And Is Copying Dominion Hard Drive |
This story is developing…
“0950 EST – Flynn cyber team has removed Dominion hard drive and is copying, will take 6-8 hours”
“UPDATE 0902 EST – Local sheriff tried to prevent Flynn forensics team from entering courthouse in Antrim County – but they are now in!”
“CDMedia has been informed a cyber forensics team will be inside the Antrim County, MI court house examining Dominion Voting Systems devices as ordered by MI judge at 9am CST this morning. The seven person white-hat cyber team arrived at the local airport last evening via private jet and is said to be reporting to General Michael Flynn and General Jack Bergman.
Patriots had circled the courthouse preventing county workers from wiping the machines until the forensics team arrived…” ? ?
https://creativedestructionmedia.com/investigations/2020/12/06/trump-forensics-team-in-antrim-county-courthouse-at-9am-cst-examining-machines-group-reportedly-directed-by-general-flynn/
Wow! Great report CM-TX
Awesome. Patriots should band together. Enemies are deep pocketed and their tentacles are far and wide.
This is the best news ever !!
Is this legit?
Reliable source?
Any verification from other sources “
CD Media is ran by Steve Gruber who has a morning show on One America’s Voice. I have watched it several times and he seems to me pretty solid MAGA
And there is this tweet by the Trump Team
https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1333114691338575875/GvpS4iBv?format=jpg&name=small
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https://www.theepochtimes.com/trump-lawyer-jenna-ellis-judge-granted-access-to-22-dominion-machines-in-michigan_3606613.html/
Well, we know the MI forensics court order is real.
Jenne Ellis clip from a couple hours ago… 22 Dominion machines subject to forensic audit.
https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/1335589049206263815
If this nugget from the CDMedia article is accurate…
The seven person white-hat cyber team arrived at the local airport last evening via private jet and is said to be reporting to General Michael Flynn and General Jack Bergman.
… then hoooo boy…
Steve Gruber radio guy:
Tweets by stevegrubershow
2 hours ago:
The forensic team standing by to examine 22 Dominion voting machines and key cards in Antrim Co MI are from ASOG- the quick arrival was coordinated by @GenFlynn and @JackBergman_MI1 working with plaintiff #ElectionFraud examined!
So ASOG is involved, which makes sense, given their deep knowledge of Dominion. They’re all former IC and Military folks, like Col. Waldron who testified a couple of times.
Take it one step at a time….
If these machines can be programmed on line they can be de-programmed on line… I could write a thousand different routines to cover my tracks… won’t post them to give them ideas…
Slow wins the race… lefts get the facts first.. MSM would love to post… negative results..
We know on Nov 3rd they were corrupted.. it’s now a month later.. the servers in Fulton County were removed or scrubbed..
So let’s get the facts then then the ropes..
That’s true, but I think what we’ve seen is a combination of shenanigans at potentially multiple levels: tabulator machines, local Dominion “Democracy Suite”(?) servers, then all of the downstream remote/cloud aggregation servers. Then on top of that you have nonsense like shuttling USB drives around, boxes of bogus paper ballots, etc. etc. I mean, the Dominion system itself is a complete cluster to begin with, from what we’ve seen… so “systemic programming” is only a small slice of what you can do remotely/centrally.
Once the fraud is put in place, it’d be hard to completely cover your tracks: manually resetting ALL of the tabulators that have been unplugged and stashed away, making sure ALL of the USB drives are wiped, making sure ALL of the local Dominion servers are reset/deprogrammed/”updated”. This across 100’s of counties in at least five or six states, not to mention a few dozen other states.
Instead, I think they’re depending on “security by obscurity”… as long as nobody finds out, we don’t have to solve the VERY HARD PROBLEM of wiping everything clean. I don’t think anybody was planning on folks actually challenging the fraud… you know, ‘cuz Fox News said it’s all legit ‘n stuff.
REPORTING TOO…keep that in mind…that is a “WHITE HAT CYBER WARFARE TEAM” coming to pay a visit!!! NOT ONLY are they copying the hard drives but they are also download the chip instruction(s)…they get to those instruction(s), it’s all over but the crying…WHY???
Because NOW the cyber experts KNOW what to look for in the machine and in the code!!!
WOWZA…To be ON THAT team…BOOOYA!!!!!
great reporting! Something positive>
Long time reader, hope to see full comments, always great insight.
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As I have said before, prepare by looking into cheap places in the country. Or short of that, due to finances, take a “fun” trip with kids into the country of your state. Even CA has freedom loving communities way up north, in the mountains, etc. Look for signs of like minded people. Counties with losing populations. Make friends. Maybe set up one or 2-3 areas of possible refuge to go to for a few days if things get dicey. They will have to subdue cities and inner burbs first with the Karen’s and soyboys totally surprised that they aren’t “protected”.
2 other thoughts. If things don’t go our way (and we have a POTUS 46 followed soon by a POTUS 47), how close to 100% will it be that wars and battles that kill and maim our young girls and boys and drain our national treasury more are conducted at the direction of China? We will fight their wars for them. How close to 100% is it that previous long wars from Clinton, Bush, Obama were conducted at China’s direction?
Another thought. Hopefully, SCOTUS goes our way, but what if a certain person has noted to folks that he will concede about 1/7 or 8 win or lose with the GA runoff. Then he will release his supporters. We must admit, we have heard or read quite a number of “in a few weeks the media will be quite surprised….”.
I am not a leftist troll. I support Trump 100%. I live in GA and will probably vote in the runoff. If it was anyone other than Trump, I probably wouldn’t vote. But I am a realist. Fortunately, I do have about 12 acres in south georgia in a small county with losing population. Far from interstates and big cities. I am somewhat calm. If I was on 1/4 acre in a big city burb, I would be more nervous.
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Odd occurrence yesterday afternoon …. went to a local gun store …. purchased another handgun, just as I did a few weeks before the election. This time …. background check was delayed….. why? Wth? Same store that weeks ago received immediate ok to sell me a weapon. Something is not right…… store owner was as shocked as I was, considering he knows me and knows I have bought several weapons from his store.
It’s obvious to anyone who has the ability to think critically that the election was as far from honest and transparent as any ever seen. The Trump lawyers along with Lin and Sidney have obviously been working day and night on what must seem to them like a never-ending stream of anecdotal and other evidence.
What has been lacking so far, in my opinion, and what will put Trump over the top, is a determination and accounting of how it all worked, the names of those involved in it, and who directed all the fraudulent activity. Anyone who stayed up late on November 3rd saw how the vote stopped at pretty much the same time in all the battleground states. Someone with a great deal of influence ordered that. All the pristine ‘mail-in’ ballots which were obviously never in the mail — a very corrupt someone ordered that. The 288,000 ballots that were driven from NY to PA – again, someone criminally ordered that. I could go on and on, but you get the point. Once we get the names of the people involved, working from the top on down, it’s over for the Dems. But get the names we must. Arrest them. Perhaps there have been some arrests behind the scenes, but until we know about it, then no one will know about it, especially the people who must be made to know about it — the corrupt political class and media. They will lose their minds, of course, but that is a positive. When they lose their minds, word finally gets out, and rational people can then, finally, make up their own minds if they have even an ounce of fairness in their souls. We must put the individuals who had the hard power to corrupt the election on the defensive and we do that by naming names. I have only seen one name so far, that of the woman and her daughter involved in ‘SuitcaseGate’ in Georgia. But she is just a very minor underling which doesn’t really do us any good in the grand scheme. I am hoping and praying that the names of the leaders are known by the good guys on our side and are only being withheld for now to be released at a time and place of their choosing. Get one or two of them and you will get them all and you will win all the marbles. It goes without saying that the corrupt and fraudulent perpetrators will turn on a dime to save their own skin.
I’m afraid until the leaders of this fraud/coup are known and shown we will still be marching uphill for the foreseeable future. It is key. Names, give us names, and give us public charges of those attached to the names. Put the fear of God into any and all involved in this attempted overthrow of the country. Offer amnesty to any underlings who name names, and big, fat rewards to anyone who will testify about the activities and plotting of the leaders. We can easily guess and speculate about who some of the leaders were, but guessing and speculation only goes so far as you know. As we have seen, mass evidence of fraud is meaningless to many who don’t want to hear it. It must be personalized with the known and unknown names of the leaders, only then will the truth overcome all obstacles I believe.
God help us if the fraud is consummated and the Senate becomes a 50/50 proposition.
Moderator, I inadvertently used my real name, and not my screen name. Please use ‘Patriots Games’ for my screen name, and I’ll do same in future. Thanks!
Trump cannot expose & then unravel the COVID scam until he’s sworn back in. Trump backers and patriotic Americans are an obstruction, they would eliminate any way they can. We have the most fertile agri on the planet, China wants/needs it. China & the global corporate cartel is salivating, they think they’ve got us on the ropes. Trump is our last, only hope. The CDC, EDS, WHO are arms of the enemy, the vaccine is a high tech improvement on the Nazi serial number.
After the election,my 15 year old texted me.
He loves history and this country.,
He said,We are going to have a new president.
I said No!They are fighting the cheating.
He wasn’t aware.
Told him to watch Oan and Newsmax,
He said why,because Fox called for Biden early?
Anyway,he was very upset and I was able to give him some facts and then he educated himself.
I continue to do that with anyone who tells me Biden won.I don’t care who they are,I don’t care if they will like me anymore,I don’t care if they want to be my “friend”anymore.
If they don’t get what this is all REALLY about,then I don’t care how they “feel”
Evil in all forms must be fought against.
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Hey everyone, here is something I have been doing. I have been talking to store owners and people in restaurants. In a polite way, I tell them how frustrating this is and I tell them “We the people” DO NOT CONSENT. I explain that we allow them to govern us, not them telling us what to do.
People need to start thinking. They have had it so good for so long, they are detached from their natural rights. Start reminding them. Everyday.
I agree! Everyone can do this, too.
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Can’t wait for Chris Wallace to apologize this morning to Rudy Giuliani for being suspicious about the provenance of the laptop story in the weather did not nearly echo any suspicions about the “dossier“ and a corresponding unwillingness to cover it without further corroboration:
https://nypost.com/2020/12/02/cnn-caught-burying-the-posts-hunter-biden-expose-devine/
“CNN boss Jeff Zucker is heard instructing his staff to downplay the bombshell story that implicated Joe Biden in a shady foreign influence-peddling scheme, according to audio released Tuesday by undercover news outlet Project Veritas.
“On the morning of Oct. 14, the day we published an email from Hunter’s abandoned laptop in which a top executive from corrupt Ukrainian energy company Burisma thanked Hunter for arranging a meeting with his then-VP father, CNN political director David Chalian is heard telling Zucker and his underlings that the news network would not cover the story.
““Obviously, we’re not going with the New York Post story right now on Hunter Biden,” said Chalian. “We’ll just continue to report out this is the very stuff that the president was impeached over . . . that Senate committees looked at and found nothing wrong in Joe Biden’s interactions with Ukrainians.” Chalian, who oversees all of CNN’s political coverage, was not being straight with his colleagues.“
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I have been lurking in the thick upper branches of this magnificent tree for quite some time now. Proud to be a part of the TreeHouse family! MAGA
Wow! 48 hour rule called, but if true, just wow.
That ballot counting photo is actually from Pennsylvania article. Not her.
Thank you!
I bet that if the real truth was out and only all legal ballots were counted President Trump also won Virginia , NH, MN, NM, CO, NJ, and ALL the swing states. LANDSLIDE!!
Even though NC (finally) went to President Trump, I would like to see an audit for the governor’s race. There is no way nutty governor Cooper won. I am thinking Cooper and the dems wanted the heat taken off the election fraud in the state so they would be left alone.
Exactamundo. Must overturn NC Gov 2018&2020 Fraud.
The Fake News destroyed America. Blaming it on each other, Soros, or anything else ignores the fact that if the Fake News had not destroyed all trust in institutions, and painted half the country as neo-Nazi supporters, things would be in better shape today.
I saw a tweet that a lawsuit was filed in Georgia and one of the things the lawsuit will show will be invalid votes in GA will exceed the margin of victory — and — that Georgia law does not state the invalid votes that accrue to exceed the margin of victory must be cast for ONE particular candidate.
That seems to be a slam dunk for invalidating the GA election, unless there is a student of John Roberts on the court.
*Applause again to Team Treehouse for the amazing pivot and migration from that former platform who’s name will never cross my lips.
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The hospitals are either closed or operations curtailed so badly that healthcare employees are put out work.
Family practice physicians and local clinics are either closed or have little to offer in the way of medical support.
This creates the “overload” of the hospitals in the news.
Now healthcare workers will be vaccinated and made ill or declared ill due to the side effects looking like China Virus infection.
ALL to create the great lock down and continued culling of those in poor health from society per the desires of the Gates Foundation and the other power grabbing results their war game.
Thank you, I am running again & I plan on taking..
God fearing, America loving, small business boosting, border wall building, 2nd amendment cherishing, law & order supporting, fake news slapping patriots across this country with me. #HouseFlipping
Launching my PAC this wee
Did you actually lose or was her victory stolen from her? Has anyone bothered to check? Given all the fraud everywhere else, seems she should be looking into this possibility.
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I’ve eliminated Fox News but then heard that Jeanine Pirro had a very good show. She & Mark Levin are the only shows now that I will watch. In her opening comments she completely destroyed Barr and his lack of action on anything. Its well worth watching even if you skip the rest of the show. She also interviews Michael Flynn. I’m very frustrated with something I’ve posted before and she pressed him repeatedly on this. Exactly what was Flynn doing that made Obama so angry that he would destroy him? Pirro pressed Flynn on this question several times and he still would not answer the question. Is he saving that for a book…okay fair enough. But, I’m skipping anymore interviews with Flynn unless he reveals more. I’ve learned nothing so far in any of the interviews with him on this question.
Why..why why…
Just imagine you had top secret national security information.. and talking about it would violate a law and get you prosecuted under judge Sullivan again..
There are many ways Gen Flynn can serve the country.
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https://twitter.com/prayingmedic/status/1335608550740041730
Jenna Ellis on examination of Antrim County voting machines: “Our team is going to be able to go in this morning at about 8:30 and will be there for about eight hours to conduct that forensic examination and we’ll have the results in about 48 hours.”
Yes! This is what we need. Get it to the MI Republican legislature ASAP. Thank God Almighty.
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From The Declaration of Independence
“…But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. —“
Stop the steal…MAGA
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i’m in. eurecka……the phone books are here. the phone books are here.
I presume one of two things…
The comment has a hidden meaning directed at a special individual or group.
Or you really needed to call someone and forgot their number
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derwood is somebiody now that his name is published in the phone book
Navin Johnson ring a bell? 😉
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