Following a series of high-profile conflicts, President Trump has terminated Defense Secretary Mark Esper and appointed Chris C Miller, head of the National Counterterrorism Center, as Acting Defense Secretary:
Secretary Esper gave an interview to the Military Times the day after the election indicating he would not follow any further orders from the administration. These public comments likely led to his removal.
Throughout the President’s first term in office politically-minded military flag officers have sought to undermine the administration effort to withdraw from global conflicts. During an interview with Bob Woodward, former Defense Secretary James Mattis admitted to plotting the overthrow of the U.S. government under Trump.
One of the more obvious exhibitions of the Pentagon outlook was in their support for Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman who attempted to frame a false impeachment effort because President Trump’s foreign policy did not align with the preferred intervention approach of the military industrial complex. {Go Deep}

I hope when civil war breaks out, it’s under President Trump.
You and I are kindred spirits ?
+1
There millions of kindred spirits my friend
Allright, allright, allright
Frankly, I miss living in Texas, so maybe we can convince him to move to Texas and we’ll just secede. I’d love a great excuse to move back.
Texas is already great, so … 🙂
Other states will follow Texas
Abd if thecstatescdon’t countiesvwithin the states will
Might reconstitute the original Confederacy.
Oh heck no. I mean it would be a new L-shaped confederacy: most of the original Confederacy over to Texas, then up the entire western side of the Mississippi, then west to the WA state line, then south back to Texas. IL, CO and NM–blue states in all that red–will just have to live with a hostage/siege mentality. Oh, and the new Confederacy would keep AK.
PS: wouldn’t put it past the eastern areas of OR and WA to want to be absorbed by Idaho.
I disagree. Every State is worth fighting for. Call me a hopeless optimist. God bless
“Every State is worth fighting for.”
I agree wholeheartedly with you Shark24. We can’t keep ceding ground and moving on every time the left infiltrates government (&/or the republican party), in a particular town, city, state, or area of the country and indoctrinates/propagandizes the citizenry. The left will just keep following and do the same thing over and over again in the freedom loving areas of the country.
We have to learn to take back ground from the Marxist/communist left and reeducate the citizenry, reversing decades of propaganda by the left. We need to learn to work patiently by degree and think long term just as the Marxists do and eventually root the left out from every position of power.
And we need to learn to gain enjoyment or at least some satisfaction from this meaningful work as this keep will help us maintain our enthusiasm and motivation to continue.
“Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.”
We fight for every state at the county level. Leave the blue areas isolated and alone as city states. Every conservative county in a blue leaning state must now begin the process of leaving for a neighboring conservative state with few Electoral College votes than the state you are now in. We can rebalance the power in this country via changing the map.
Yeah – VT, MA, RI not so much
The gravesite of POTUS-2 and his family is here in Massachusetts.
I won’t leave tending it.
y’all can liberate us, asap. Please.
I’ll leave a light on, sandwiches in the fridge.
And POTUS #6.
So much greatness in one small crypt it overwhelms the psyche.
Quincy, MA.
John Adams (born in Braintree, MA), John Quincy Adams (born in Braintree, MA), John F. Kennedy (born in Brookline, MA a section of Boston) and George H.W. Bush (born in Milton, MA a Boston suburb next to Braintree, MA).
The portion of Braintree where the Adams were born is now Quincy, MA.
Interseting fact: Our current Army Chief of Staff General James McConville is from Quincy, MA. Very nice family.
General Benjamin Lincoln, second in command to General George Washington, is from Hingham, MA a south shore suburb near Braintree, Quincy and Milton. When Lord Conwallis surrendered to General George Wachington in Yorktown, VA he refused to surrender his sword directly to Washington. He instead sent out his second in command General Charles O’Hara to deliver the sword to Washington. General Washington, refusing to accept the sword from O’Hara, sent out his second in command General Benjamin Lincoln to accept the sword of British surrender on his behalf.
We had some dispute with Tea and taxation in Boston a while back too. Oh and I almost forgot, our Independance was born Massachusetts as well. In Lexington and Concord, MA where that shot heard around the World was fired.
Lots of history. Probably worth keeping in the rightful hands of We the People. Just my two cents.
I’m an *Abigail Adams* groupie, myself.
https://www.abigailadamsinstitute.org
You can blame Eisenhower for being tricked into disastrously nominating the two most activist, far left Supreme Court justices in our country’s history: Earl Warren and William Brennan
The two justices’ ruling in Reynolds v Sims forever changed America as it completely destroyed the idea of actual state representation in our country.
Reynolds v. Sims, 377 U.S. 533 (1964), was a United States Supreme Court case that ruled that unlike in the election of the United States Senate, in the election of any chamber of a state legislature the electoral districts must be roughly equal in population.
Senator Everett Dirksen of Illinois led a fight to pass a constitutional amendment allowing legislative districts based on land area, similar to the United States Senate. He warned that:
“[T]he forces of our national life are not brought to bear on public questions solely in proportion to the weight of numbers. If they were, the 6 million citizens of the Chicago area would hold sway in the Illinois Legislature without consideration of the problems of their 4 million fellows who are scattered in 100 other counties. Under the Court’s new decree, California could be dominated by Los Angeles and San Francisco; Michigan by Detroit.”
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reynolds_v._Sims
Florida, Trump’s home is neck and neck with Texas.
I am a Texan living in FL for the last 17 years, FL has a better governor than TX.
Muthauker:
I lived in Florida for several years. I’m now a Texan by choice.
You are correct. Florida has a much better governor.
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The southern 3rd of Indiana is paradise. Everything from Seymour south should secede.
A quick summary why?
Hell, I would say everything besides Lake, Marion, and Monroe counties is paradise!
Bingo.
Texas can trade the remaining Bushes for the Trump family.
Florida and Texas both need to send the Bush family back to Connecticut. Right where they belong.
Maine. Kenny bunk port
Works for me.
oh thanks but no thanks. I’m a Mainer and sick and tire of people from away screwing up this state. Its not bad enough we have libtard Massholes…aka people from Mass….owning vacation homes here and now with covid deciding to live here full time and bringing their politics with them. Coastal Maine, which includes Kennybunkport, is a democommie stronghold of the first degree. It’s also where the majority of covid cases are. Coastal Maine has been turned into the playground of the rich…working waterfront and those who use it…are being destroyed.
I feel you. NE Liberal Progressives have been sending their spawn to Colorado Colleges and Universities for decades. They never seem to go home.
We have the same problem on the seacoast in SC. These migrants have enough sense to flee tyranny, but when they get here, they try to create what they just escaped from. I think it is a genetic flaw. They are addicted to rules, and they can’t break the addiction. The migrants move quickly to try to control HOAs, school boards, civic organizations, or any organization where they can make rules and try to impose them on others. I can’t explain the behavior, but the phenomenon is real.
I miss living in Texas, too. I’d move tomorrow if we could secede and start our new Federal Republic of America there.
Oh yeah.
Just like the great college football team there … texsa shorthorns is it?
signed
an Oklahoma Sooner
Good riddance! I want to know now what the election outcome portends for recruitment and retention. Few people are talking about that.
We might be cousins
“I can feel, coming in the air tonight…hold on, hold on!”
My heart is broken for my country but my resolve is strong and, in the words of Scarlett O’Hara, “I can shot straight, if I don’t have to shot too far!”
Couldn’t agree more.
I have read everything from A-Z, but my mind always wanders to the question of what our country could/would have been like w/out the Swamp undermining President Trump every step of the way. One of my biggest regrets is his difficult time hiring loyal admin and staff.
I pray his second term will fair far better because quite frankly I cannot take much more of this crap and these traitors.
Hope in one hand and… in the other…
Civil war will come in its own time and by its nature will pretty much nullify order in government. Civil war is upheaval, it is tectonic and will move fast in our digital world.
Who can reasonably believe that our military will side with tyranny? Mutinous officers, the ones who actually move the pieces will NOT obey politicized flags. Those that do will be “fragged”.
Yes, it would be helpful if Trump or a POTUS like him were leading revolt/resistance against a tyranny which means to subsume us into a hive of squalor. But in the end, just like with so many other Federal agencies, it will be the beauracries, the “little people” who either move as one and eventually triumph. Or attempt to wear their chains lightly.
Well, that’s one … there are quite a few to go still. Did that get your attention Mr. Wray?
He should hold the door open, at least for Haspel. Wray and Barr right behind, but need to hold BOTH open for Bondo Bob.
Wray will be history the day General Flynn finally gets cut loose, and that freaks out the Left big time! Flynn knows where all the bodies are buried which is why the Left are hellbent on keeping him tied up.
What is stopping him now. I do not understand this often repeated statement.
Esper will likely rear his head up his rear! Maybe he’s a Rear Admiral wannabe!
Or, Esper will end up on the board of Faux News – like Ryan.
That’s not working out for FNC these days, I’m thrilled to have read earlier today. Lowest ratings ever, even lower than CNNMSDNC since election day. Wonder why. ?
#boycottfoxnews and #boycottfoxnewssponsors
Good bye B Esser
Remember when there was a thing called sedition?
“During an interview with Bob Woodward, former Defense Secretary James Mattis admitted to plotting the overthrow of the U.S. government under Trump.”
So why hasn’t the SOB already faced a firing squad for treason.
How the hell did PTrump end up with these anti Americans in his admin?
Yeah, ’cause the turtle wouldn’t approve. Eff the turtle. Anyone on this site could have chosen better.
Could President Trump have been taking advice from Christie? He was helping the president with his debate preparations, so he was acting in a supportive role. Now he’s out saying the president should accept the election results. Sounds like a traitor to me.
Anyone on this site could have chosen better.
The first 100 names in any old-fashioned phone-book anywhere could’ve done better.
Ducks are being gotten in a row…
Stay frosty.
Yepper …..but let’s not say too much. These people are so full of hubris. Look what they did last week. They’re cornered rats but we are cornered Wolverines.
We aren’t “cornered”, we have THEM cornered.
Its the “Hah, NOW we finally have Trump,
RIGHT where he WANTS us,…WHA?,…HEY!
How the HECK does he DO that?”
As every time before, its “Paul Harvey time”, as we wait for,….”the REST of the Story”.
Presumably the new Sec Def will not engage in insubordination, and once the insurection act is invoked, WILL deploy Federalised National Guard troops to put down the riots when PDJT is declared the winner.
However, I am not confident the rioters will fold, as they have previously.
Somebodies going to emergency,….
Sombodies going to jail,…
And, regretably some will be going to the morgue.
Hope you’re correct Dutch…. I can’t like comments. The site will not let me stay logged in.
I can’t either. what’s the reason they don’t allow us to like a comment?
WP software has always been hinky. I log in and always checkmark the stay logged in box then I make a pointless reply. Once I have made a reply I’m able to like until I clear cookies or the hamster tires – then it’s start over and somedays I can’t like or reply.
It has to do with how you are signed into WP. I did it correctly yesterday but that was the first time in about 8 months. I can’t again today.
I just did it correctly, in order for me too be able to “like” I have to click on the WP icon next to my name as if I’m about to comment. It takes me to a separate WP page that is my page as if I were going to blog, and when I exit out of that, viola, I can like. Hope that helps. Just commenting doesn’t work for me.
I can never get it to work, no matter what.
There will be body-bags and indictments as a necessity for getting everyone’s “Mind-Right”.
“But men get lost sometimes, as years unfurl…one day he crossed some line, and he was too much in this world.”
Indeed – could be the story of most of the Rats in the DC Swamps…set out with good intentions and maybe even a desire to do the right thing…but every year they stayed, the lines between right and wrong got blurrier and blurrier and now, it’s just about protecting the “institutions” and that means that Orange Man must be removed, by any means necessary…even if it brings about the destruction of the country they claim they swore to protect.
May God have mercy on us all…
I was thinking about that right after I heard Trump fired Esper. If Trump uses the Insurrection Act, he needs someone in there he can trust and follow his orders.
Dutch,
Replying to: As every time before, its “Paul Harvey time”, as we wait for,….”the REST of the Story”.
Good Day!
Love it! Wolverines much more dangerous!!
Speaking of…
One big guy goes cross-branch to see another big guy. Isn’t that kinda a big deal?
I’d love to believe that was a meeting of any substance…
I don’t, though — Barr probably just went over to reaffirm that he will do nothing while working for Trump.
Will continue to do nothing
I hear you, though, it was after the visit by the AG that McConnell dropped his bomb in the Senate. Curious.
Yea, but we are used to Barr doing nothing so this isnt anything unexpected.
What I want to know is what took you so F’ing long. He should have been fired long ago, the first time he publicly disagreed with his CoC.
Audit the Pentagon.
Audit the State Department.
Audit the Fed.
and get lots of extra independent security before you do so.
You may be being snarky, but as I recall when President Trump was first inaugurated there was a concerted effort to Audit the Pentagon and a lot of talk that the Fed would have its first ever audit.
Then came General Flynn’s persecution.
Right I remember that
No, I am serious and being literal.
Billions if not trillions have disappeared down those black holes.
Issue an EO prohibiting any federal contracts with a defense company that hires ex military who haven’t been retired for at least 15 years.
Yeah , hit those political generals in the wallet
I agree with the spirit of your comment but I think there needs to be some sort of graduated “cooing-off” period so that lower ranking folks can have access to nice jobs, e.g. make the waiting time longer for higher ranking officers, etc.
Yep, lets encourage some of the stellar NCO’s to go mustang and also promote some of the current Captains, Majors, and Light Birds.
They are the ones who are dealing with, and trying to unscrew the Obama military.
No EO needed there are already 5 year waiting period rules in place. Enforce these rules and add time depending on rank of officer.
More uninvestigated sedition.
I guess sedition only matters depending on which side is being accused
Don’t know aboit sedition, but certainly insubordination, which is, I believe a court martial offence?
I think secretary of defense is a civilian position.
It’s a civilian position, but he still swears an oath to uphold the Constitution.
Right. My point was no court martial for a civilian.
Agreed. it still felt good seeing POTUS take action. Hopefully the first of many.
Esper will probably get a gig as z Faux News contributor.
LOL
Maybe, but you can stick that one with a fork, he’s done!
Booger71 –That’s ok — NO ONE will be watching. As Greg kelly said “What the FOX?” Looking for a lot more pink slips to go with their girlie panties. Keep firing PDJT, you are the BOSS!
he can co-host a show with Austin Gooolsbie
And clear the dollar tree shelves, i smell another tell all book.
And clear the dollar tree shelves, i smell another tell all book.
Triggers my gag reflex.
I don’t know. He seems like a MSDNC type of guy.
Or is it the View?
He could swap panties with the other losers.
First he will have to write his book (ha ha)
Always.
Maybe Xi-NN
Esper will be joining CNN most likely.
I smell the makings of a great Office Pool!
Don’t forget about the “book deal.”
Probably join Biden admin on NSC.
The Turtle has an uncanny and unmatched ability to read / react to political wind direction – watching the rinos and it looks like Mitch just tipped his hand. Biden Select is heading to Biden Eject.
Yes that was encouraging. Turtle had its tongue out to guage the wind direction – did’nt say anything, until it looked favorable. Not the kind of guy you want for a friend, but a good wind gauge.
Another thread showed that AG Barr visited Mitch right before
Mitch made his speech on the senate floor.
“Turtle had its tongue out to guage the wind direction – ”
Snakes do that. Maybe one “evolved” to grow a shell, too.
/s
Alligator Snapping Turtles Lure Prey With Wriggling Worm-like Tongue Appendage
Maybe Trump indicated to Mitch he might just clean house now.
Mitch tells Barr you better get moving, you won’t like who takes your place – none of us will.
Invoke the Insurrection Act, let’s go.
Wray, Haspel, and Barr should be next.
That’s probably why he did this
The three should be called to the White House while someone is gathering up their pencils and pictures in their office then denied re-entry into the building while stripping their security clearances. Do not allow them to steal government property like Corney did
The three should be called to the White House while someone is gathering up their pencils and pictures in their office then denied re-entry into the building while stripping their security clearances. Do not allow them to steal government property like Corney did
The three should be called to the White House while someone is gathering up their pencils and pictures in their office then denied re-entry into the building while stripping their security clearances. Do not allow them to steal government property like Corney did
According to Jake Tapper, Esper is ” worried’ Haspel and Wray are next! Delicious !!
…Dear VSG/ESG PDJT….. ppl is soooooooo pis* off they would like see VALENTINE DAY MASACRE….of course only politically speaking……
Bye Felicia
Barr-zini, Hassel, Wray, and munchkin Fauci next. Watch “settled all family business” on YouTube
Next hand him a one way ticket to Vegas. And watch the relief pour over his face.
Fox awaits him with a cushy contributor’s contract.
Vindman should have been Court Martialed sentenced to life in prison for breaching national security protocols to advance a hearsay lie directed at the Commander-in-Chief and and Esper should have been terminated back then for not seeing that it was done.
Dang straight. I hope POTUS is buying himself some political capital somewhere by treating all these jerks waaaay better than they deserve.
Besides blocking President Trump from having his top picks of appointees, from SD article note there are also Flag (“General Officers”) who populate command positions with the Armed Services at the “Pentagon” as well as Military “Field” Levels of command. Fla Officers are nominated for their rank and approved by the SENATE.
That means Shanghai Mitch has put many of the current crop of political Flag Officers into their positions.
The political environment of the Armed Services is self perpetuating as the boards used to select officers for promotion are manned by other officers of senior rank and civilian political figures in the case of general officers. The same is true for senior enlisted ranks from grade E-5 and up, with boards composed of enlisted members of senior grade or a mix of officers and senior enlisted personnel.
Exactly. The senior ranks of the military are full of trash because that’s the way the US Senate likes it. And for a long time now the Senate has been controlled by the GOP and Cocaine Mitch.
At the end of the day this is all on the voters. It is our responsibility to send honest people to Congress, and we have been doing a very poor job of it.
ESPER is a civilian, isn’t he?
Read the post, I was addressing the military side of the issue, discussed by SD.
It’s all about the primaries.
‘WE’ are not even allowed to vote for the President, let alone send any honest people to congress.
You’ve never sat on an E-5 promotion board, have you? They literally get asked service branch trivia, and more normal “interview” questions like “what would you do in this scenario?” Enlisted boards are NOT political. Neither are CGO or FGO boards.
The military is weirdly disconnected from national politics at the lower levels. Instead, it’s obsessed with its own internal politics, which can be very strange. O-5s are either on their way out and don’t care, or furiously competing for that strat line on their performance reports, which can be based on anything from “who f-ed the GO briefing last week” to “what did you blow up that you shouldn’t have.”
O-6 is where it gets political. O-7, general/admiral, promotions are the only ones handled directly by Congress, and at that point, national politics very much do matter. But usually not until then.
I should add; politics do get foisted on the officer corps, mostly through the professional education schools. But I don’t know anybody who’s still buying the “nation building is a great strategy!” stuff. That’s all been greatly decreased under Trump. Unfortunately, it was pushed hard under Obama and that’s the generation of GOs we have right now.
I’m sure Esper already has book deals lined up and appearances scheduled on all the talk shows. Watch this turds “tell all” book which I won’t read.
Who buys these “tell all” books?
We know the books actually don’t tell us anything at all, so there’s that. At least among the people I hang out with no one admits to owning any of these tomes. Gotta be the case that the number of books sold is pretty paltry.
In fact we know it’s true considering how quickly such books are relegated to the bargain shelf at a quarter of the original price. Save so much time and effort, just have the publisher send them directly to the recycling bin.
Yes, it is just a way of laundering payoffs to traitors for services rendered.
Yes, of course, it’s that too.
Sorry to interrupt the thread, but live in a few miinutes:
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LIVE: Trump Campaign Holds Press Conference with Kayleigh McEnany and Ronna McDaniel
Presstitute asks Ronna if the poll worker in Detroit – who has sworn an affidavit to his being asked to back date ballots – is part of a conspiracy…..
Of course she looked a bit incredulous for a split second.
Not a peep from the DemoCommunist Media about the Deep State Democrat conspiracy to steal the election….no…they are only suspicious of the whistleblowers who witnessed the fraud.
? ?
You cannot make this stuff up.
I am so glad to see this insubordinate piece of swamp fired.
He should be in handcuffs, IMO.
At least the GSA had the propriety not to allow Biden to form a transitional government while the election is still pending.
But yet, he is still already having conversations with foreign leaders regarding the policies he wants to pursue starting in January? Um….Logan Act anyone?
Biden is talking to nobody. It is the registered agents in Obama’s Think Tank – Shadow Government just confirming.
Biden’s work day, if he gets to the White House will involve Jill sitting beside him moving his hand with ink stamp to ink pad to stuff for signature as well as using the drool rag to be sure he doesn’t mess up the documents..
A Biden Administration. The real Zombie Apocalypse.
‘Secretary Esper gave an interview to the Military Times the day after the election indicating he would not follow any further orders from the administration.’
Treason by any other name.
His behavior seems odd — why not just quit? I mean, nobody would think twice if he just up and quit (chatter about resignation the last few days, too).
What “orders” would Trump give in these last 2 months that Esper might find so “objectionable?” Something to consider.
Getting ready for impeachment 2.0 by Pelosi…. abuse of power…
Esper I was fired for wanting…… Schiff would you repeat that please…
It’s about setting an example for other traitors with a hugely public example of ultimate disrespect for President Trump.
It was not just a violation of his oath of office. It posed a direct threat to national security.
If he did do this he should be charged with sedition. His inaction could have resulted in a true national emergency not being responded to in a timely manner.
I cannot find the quote where those words were used.
Traitors sure are out in the open now. So that’s on record and he is that sure he won’t be court marshalled?
By the way, Trump is asking we all pray at 5 pm Eastern when something happens at the Supreme Court.
–God please let us be victorious and clean house in your name.
–Have you ever seen someone do more good for more people than Trump? He rebuilt military, economy and helped every race and economic level from poor to middle class to job creating small businesses and billionaires equally and this is what the cabal is against? Universal good? That’s how you know they are evil. Please God, protect and make victorious Trump, us, America and all that is good.
Where did you see this request for prayer / Supreme Court
Trump made us free of the Middle East control of energy. We are energy independent. One of his biggest accomplishments. Yet they think PA voted to end all that progress to their state.
Halo – please don’t take offense, as I finally have to ask. You appeared here maybe two days ago and have been posting non-stop (do you sleep?) with really fantastic comments. Seriously, you’re incredibly informed and I rarely enjoy/agree with a single poster so much. Would we longtime Treepers know you under another moniker?
Hmmmm, never sleeps…reminds me of someone
DJT should have fired Esper 30 seconds after Esper said US Troops would not be used against rioting, looting, arsonist, pillaging mobs in the US. (As if the Secretary of Defense can override the Commander in Chief.)
“I will take no further orders from this administration” Espy
“clean out your desk” Trump
“I will take no further orders from this admin.”
“Your right, cause I won’t be giving you any more orders. Your fired!
“The battle of the Two Towers is over.
The Battle for Middle Earth, begins.”
Please find that quote. I can’t.
Sundance… if SCOTUS tosses out Penn delegates altogether that puts Biden at 270 and I really don’t see a path for Trump to get there. Maybe to 269 but that’s it. Geez.
You are presuming AZ will go Biden. Hopefully they won’t.
They’re also forgetting MI, WI, NV and GA
and where is Alaska. The numbers have been static with Trump leading since last week?
Is Alaska still counting ballots too?
The media gave Hawaii to Biden in less than a minute before any votes were counted on the Hawaiian islands yet they refuse to give Alaska to Trump.
How in a sane world is it taking days to count the remaining votes?
They’re saving the final vote tally till Trump flips some of the other states and the score is Biden 268 to Trump 267. Everyone then assumes Trump’s got it, just waiting for Alaska. But instead of it going for Trump and giving him 270, it shockingly goes for Biden. In THIS election would anyone bet that couldn’t happen? 🙂
I think Alaska just stopped counting. Trump I read was way ahead. So they stopped. 3 electoral votes.
275 if he runs the table.
or would 262 be the new majority?
Wrong on everything you posted. Try and keep up will ya. It’s been outlined here, I know it’s hard, but try.
So when is Esper’s book set to publish, and who will be the lucky publisher? Isn’t that the pattern?
Make it a double: Send Fats packing along with Pinchie.
Not sure if anyone else heard this….. please pass on!! Let us storm Heaven!
Important Message from a priest friend:
President Trump is asking all Christians to pray today at 5pm (Eastern time) when they go to the Supreme Court!
Please share!!!!????
This may be what’s going to the Supreme Court today
https://www.whio.com/news/local/ohio-ag-yost-asks-us-supreme-court-overturn-decision-over-late-arriving-ballots-pennsylvania/ALFHKTRUYJGZNFRWOOLLMYYZCU/
If we win this one.. Deepstate will know the tyrant has a long way to go..Their first major setback after their coupe détat will be a fact.
Esper was always a PIECE OF ?!
Would be nice if Barr was talking substance to the turtle and not, “you need to go to the white house for the “talk”. Barr has done nothing to lead me to believe he was talking business.
They think that because the media has their backs, they can do it. We have to fight as hard for our President as he fought for us.
“the day after the election indicating he would not follow any further orders from the administration.”
How many other directions did he not follow? This is truly scary. What would happen if the enemy declared war by a strike before the election results were complete? Unbelievable
” What would happen if the enemy declared war by a strike before the election results were complete? “
That’s exactly what did happen. the enemy within.
I cannot find anywhere that Esper said he would not follow any further orders from the administration (the president).
The implication of the supposed comment is that Esper would, in his capacity as DOD, ignore the orders of the president. I don’t believe he would say that much less do that.
He did a lot of traveling over the summer to stay out of Trump’s way. But I also wonder if he was taking the pulse of the troops to see what their reaction would be if Trump lost. And there’s this – it’s the Hill so take with a grain of salt. https://thehill.com/policy/defense/520890-esper-ducks-questions-on-military-involvement-in-election
The whole upper command (Obama and Bush generals and their spawn) at the Pentagon are anti-American snakes. They are one of the Founding Fathers greatest fears.
Well, Esper was wrong and right. He had to follow one more order, but now he’s free not to follow any.
Chris Salcedo on Newsmax just said that with 98% of the AZ vote in, Biden only leads by 17% and that the Trump admins feels good that Trump will win AZ.
17% is a hell of a lot, dude!!
Are you sure you got the numbers right?
I think he meant 17,000
Maybe that’s suppose to be .17% (point 17%).
You’re right, 17000.
Anyone know what the heck is going on with Alaska?
I am actually chuckling a little to myself comparing this to the days of The Apprentice….who will be left standing at the end? “You’re Fired!” and “You are also Fired” and “YOU and YOU are Fired!!!”. Give ’em hell Sir!
Past time to fire wray.
And Haspel.
Wray who has been much worse and done much more damage has not been fired. Why?????? Is Wray untouchable?
The president had probably been waiting until after his victory on Nov 3rd or 4th. And Barr would have gone, too. Now he might think he needs them for some aspect of investigating the election fraud. They both seem to be crooked, but it’s not an optimal time to replace them. They could even have ways of taking revenge to thwart the investigation and lawsuits.
Yes, and I think this was by design too. Another insurance policy to make the President a lame duck, even when he is far from it.
First posted by ImpeachEmAll, but I am commenting again on this video of our beautiful First Family at the Lincoln Memorial standing proudly while the military choir sings “The Battle Hymn Of The Republic.” This choice of song has an interesting history attached to the strong lyrics. Also of interest is the timestamp of the video.
Watch the full 3+ minutes until the last word that is sung. Made me proud, made me resolute, made me cry.
Esper was in on the Eddie Gallagher set up, guaranteed. He missed so he’s pissed.
Esper did what any good boss should try and do – back up your subordinates, in this case the Seal leadership who wanted to stick it to Gallagher.
Espers failed to sell his recommendations to PT and it ended the way it did.
Any good Boss would make sure his people acted honorably before backing them. Sure, give them the benefit of the doubt, but confirm propriety.
And it is SEAL.
Off topic I understand but has anyone heard news about Trucker for Trump striking Veterans Day for 24 hours and if that’s effective 4?more to follow
Not effective
what are you a troll…shut down trucking and forget shopping for more than one day..
oops…I see you were correcting something on your post….I misinterpreted it…very effective…sorry
yes, they are calling it stop the tires on 11/11 and a second time from 11/26 – 11/29..I posted this earlier on presidential thread…there is a facebook page but I don’t do facebook….neighbor did a screenshot and sent it to me but I do not know how to copy screen shot…if they do this for real, it is a big deal…shut down the supply chain…better stock up on toilet paper tomorrow..
I don’t do Facebook nor Twitter but someone sent me a link but I can’t seem to get it to do right on this site.
But you know I’ll suffer through it gladly, I say to the truckers yes, shut it down for about a week and get everyone’s attention. Actually I shouldn’t say it, but I love it, oh but I really do.
Good move. I continue to
Pray
Trump: I order you to bring back at least 2,000 troops from Afghanistan by Christmas.
Epsy: I refuse.
Trump: I order you to bring back at least 200 troops from Afghanistan by Christmas.
Epsy: I refuse.
Trump: I order you to bring back at least 20 troops from Afghanistan by Christmas. Pretty please.
Epsy: I refuse.
Trump: I order you to bring back at least 2 troops from Afghanistan by Christmas. Pretty pleas with sugar on it.
This is insane. Epsy should be xxxx.
Well, Esper can go do whatever he wants without living life as a king in charge of the DOD.
F**king traitor. What happens to traitors in our country? Apparently keep a big fat pension.
It does get old.
I think it is more simple than supporting an interventionist foreign policy.
Nixon got Watergated as he began pulling us out of SE Asia when SE Asia was the Heroin king of the world.
He was taken out by “ex”CIA (the Plumbers) + ex-Navy + Pentagon Intel (Woodward) + Comey-level FBI (Deep Throat). — Sound familiar…?
Where is the Heroin Kingdom now…?
Poppy Production has tripled or quadrupled in Afghanistan under the watchful protection of US/UN Military Power.
The only time Poppy Production has dropped dramatically was — 2000 — when the Taliban outlawed it.
People will scoff at this + get angry saying I’m bashing America or bashing the Military or that this is ridiculous.
Opium Wars…
The United Kingdom kept its colonial rule in India + beyond functioning in large measure thanks to the poppy fields in India/Pakistan + opium sales in China.
I Have a Theory. . . . .
Biden’s campaign bus has these word prominently written on the front, sides and rear:
“BATTLE FOR THE SOUL OF THE NATION”
They always tell you what they’re going to do. (remember Obama with his ‘fundamentally transform America?’)
This IS a battle. Spiritual warfare.
Yes, please pray to God in Heaven. Abortion and homosexuality have hastened our demise.
I have a theory about the death of all those poor patients in nursing home and “care” facilities.
I think that they were some form of satanic sacrifice. They get off on death.
Say what you will. Sticks and stones—you know.
Please pray for God to defeat the work of satan and his minions.
Ann Barnhardt has a similar thought – but it’s worse. They WANT us to see them cheating. https://www.barnhardt.biz/2020/11/07/on-why-diabolical-narcissists-like-hillary-clinton-want-to-get-caught-and-it-isnt-for-the-reason-you-think/
FTA:
Thanks Sentient, so great! An important and interesting article on what’s going on in our (the) world! So spot on! One can easily see, understand & relate to what she’s saying. It’s disgusting & it’s growing as these people take over our country. We’re watching & impotent – and it’s an ever increasing high to them – watching us twist in the wind. And it WILL get worse.
fwiw, Esper is, or rather was, one of those “executive branch cabinet officers” that would likely NOT go along with the “Biggest of the Big Ugly” scenario that SD wrote about yesterday.
Anyone who voted for President Trump should do everything they can to keep their children and grandchildren from joining the military.
These bastards are already planning more wars for profit. They are salivating at the chance to send kids from flyover country to die for them to make money or get a board seat.
Let’s deplete the military so much they have to institute a draft – Democrat voters will lose their minds.
Yes, and militias are good so they can redirect their energy. Also neighborhood watches if your police department has inadequate support. Teach kids to hunt and other survival skills. Definitely no more service so the war industry can die. Democrats are such pathetic cowards they will literally injure themselves to avoid the draft so starve the military industrial complex that may have actually colluded in this election too.
He is lucky that he was fired. Insubordination is a serious offense.
It should be. It used to be. But we are living in nightmare world, where up is down and down is up.
These people belong in Leavenworth
GITMO would be better.
Golgatha. Just sayin.
Like!
Gallows on the mall would be most appropriate
firing squad
Esper thought he’d be cute and pull a Sally Yates. Trump needs to look at Milley, too.
Thank your for your comment, and I also have concerns about Miley. Obama purged the military, and many of the current senior officers are the dregs from the purge. Trump may as well realign now. Such a realignment would be best for the DoD. Remove the Social Justice Warriors and focus on the mission of the DoD.