If you never followed how President Obama constructed and influenced the rise of Justin Trudeau in Canada, then it might seem perplexing when President Donald Trump stands generally ambivalent to the outcome of today’s election in Canada.
When asked about the election in Canada President Trump previously said, “I don’t care. I think it’s easier to deal, actually, with a liberal and maybe they’re going to win, but I don’t really care.” The core of President Trump’s position stems from the economic issues that have been present for decades. Leading candidate Mark Carney, who had not lived in Canada for the past 10-years until his installation, has said he is prepared to guide Canada into an alignment with the European Union.
As Secretary of State Marco Rubio outlined, previous Prime Minister Justin Trudeau traveled to Mar-a-Lago and said if President Trump was to make the Canadian government pay reciprocal tariffs, open the USMCA trade agreements to force reciprocity, and/or balance economic relations on non-tariff issues, then Canada would collapse upon itself economically and cease to exist.
In essence, Canada cannot survive as a free and independent north American nation, without receiving all the one-way benefits from the U.S. economy. To wit, President Trump then said, if Canada cannot survive in a balanced rules environment, including putting together their own military and defenses (which it cannot), then Canada should become the 51st U.S state.
The Canadian Mitt Romney “conservative”, Mark Carney’s closest competitor, Pierre Poilievre, is also very upset at President Trump.
As the majority of Canadians cheer, both Mark Carney and Pierre Poilievre said that Canada, as a free independent and sovereign nation, will now embrace its connections to the United Kingdom and European Union and seek to replace their national dependency on the United States by severing ties in North America and entering a new era of close relations with Great Britain and Europe.
When questioned if Canada would join the European Union, a seemingly natural fit for the ideologically aligned country, Prime Minister Carney said, “nothing is off the table.” In a rather remarkable end to the confrontation, Carney says the economic and military ties between the USA and Canada are officially declared severed.
Structurally from an American economic perspective, the lens through which President Trump is primarily focused, it really doesn’t matter which of the leading Canadian politicians wins the election. The financial dependency on the USA is going to be severed.
President Trump hits Canada with an approximately 50% tariff. Let’s say an import widget from Canada costs the purchaser/importer $100 CAD + 50% tariff, now $150 CAD.
$1 CAD = 0.70¢ USD
Without U.S. tariff, it costs $70 USD to purchase the $100 CAD widget.
With the U.S tariff it would take $105 USD to purchase $150 Canadian widget
However, due to economic policy, Canada’s dependence on the USA market and the tariff battle, the Canadian currency drops around 30%. $1 CAD now equals 0.50¢ USD
With currency drop it now costs $50 USD to purchase the original $100 Canadian widget. $75 USD with tariff.
BEFORE: $70 USD without U.S. tariff, or AFTER: $75 USD with 50% U.S. tariff. A net change of $5.
But wait, back to Mark Carney’s plan. As stated in his tariff policy, the prime minister will take income from the Canadian side of the tariff equation (countervailing duties) to subsidize the impacted export sector. Just like China and the EU did in ’17, ’18 and ’19, the Canadian government plans to offset the difference to the U.S. consumer by subsidizing the exporter with import tariff income. All of this is done to retain access to USA consumers.
The final outcome, the U.S. purchaser is back to the original price of $70, only now that same outcome is evident with an invisible $50 tariff.
This is what China tried to do. This is what the EU tried to do. This is what Canada is now planning to do to retain access to the U.S. market while they look for alternatives.
But wait, it gets better….
….. As the Canadian financial sector evaluates the likely drop in the CAD currency, they seek safe harbor investment to retain the value of their money. The reciprocal tariffs are hitting every currency. The Canadian finance sector purchases dollar and dollar-backed assets to retain their value. This approach increases the value of the U.S dollar.
Do you really think President Trump gives a hoot about PM Carney’s feelings? Quite frankly, Trump would not want to be bothered by Canada while he is working on a much, much bigger geopolitical economic dynamic.
Go back and reference the renegotiation of the NAFTA for reference. President Trump didn’t care if Canada (Trudeau/Freeland) agreed or did not agree with the USMCA. Trump was quite willing, heck he was hoping, to just deal with Canada on a bilateral trade system.
Severing the Military ties is a very big deal. In order for NORAD to work properly the Canadian Military must be part of it. I know besides being Brilliant Trump is at heart a brash New Yorker (the guy behind the Deli Counter or the Cabbie) but there is no need to pick fights unnecessarily. Trump’s timing in this case was exceptionally bad, right before the Canadian election.
I think he’s on to something, I think he really wants them as the 51st State!
And I think if they throw a temper tantrum it just could happen!
Think. Canada would be more Liberal than Commiefornia.
What does that do to the House and Senate? And we inherit their Chinese transnational crime and money laundering operations, as well as recent ethnic problems.
All bc some keyboard warriors want to throw around some snarky comments?
I think he’d bring them in by Provinces (10), that should even things out nicely.
Grand total 61 States.
I agree. It would be like annexing another looney liberal state like California. Why would we want that?
If you took it all in it would. That is why the Conservative Provinces want out. We are tired of supporting the Socialist do nothings., the corruption, the crime and the ethnic problems brought to us by Trudeau senior and his multicultural programs.
I think so too. P. Trump is often way ahead of most thinkers in sort of prophetic kind of way.
Not a single American wants Canada as a 51st state. We pay enough to our existing welfare states as it is. Add to that we do not need OR WANT Canada’s multicultural systemic problems. We have enough of our own.
Canada as an entire state is not a good idea. It would bring in 2 liberal senators and 50 (I think) mostly liberal house members. Maybe better to have each province become a state. Not to sure even that is a good idea.
Canada has a military?🤣
You’ve heard of the Mounties, right?
Dudley Doright.
Believe it or not, POTUS said in the last couple of days he was serious about the 51st state thing.
I never understood why he though it so-what thing to insult the people of Canada, which he did. I don’t see he gained anything by it at all.
Plus, who TH wants all those Libs voting in our elections. Sheesh.
Their chain of command runs through Beijing
An oddball stat to ponder in regards to the Canadian military establishment: during WW2, of the allies, Canada had the highest percentage of its population in uniform of any of the nations.
Good grief.
“Trump’s timing in this case was exceptionally bad, right before the Canadian election.”
i’ll give you snow mexicans one thing, you stick to a talking point, even if its dumb as hell.
once again, its worth mentioning that if Canadian’s decision on whether to flush their country down the toilet boiled down to some mean tweets by Trump, it says a lot more about y’all than it does about him.
and not in a good way.
Anonymous II ~
His timing was deliciously perfect.
If President Trump can get a deal with Greenland America can do without Canada.
Maybe replace Canada with Greenland regarding NORAD……….
Canaduh, they picked the fight. Asking our supposedly good neighbors to help protect the border and they throw the biggest 2 yr old temper tantrum. Then they invest 32 billion in trump-proofing their country? Lol, I mean they’ve lost their marbles. Ok, no problem the USA can and will own them very soon. The country will break up, independents and US territories will form out of most Canaduh, then we just have a lot of fun messing around with Quebec and Ontario, which is all that will remain of Canaduh. OH Cana-DUHHHH….. you just screwed yourselves royally and that is something else you have in common with the eu. 😉
Did you ever have one of those EUREKA moments after scratching your head on WHY President Trump did or said something? Well, isn’t it possible that all along the President would prefer dealing with Carney? It lets him hit multiple objectives with minimal effort. Carney provides links and paths directly to the Bank of England, the WEF, the RF and all other European globalists. Maybe all this is about target efficiency?
I’ve had similar thoughts.
Can’t fight the putatively good guy.
Carnage will shortly have everyone wanting President Trump to take him down.
And, yes, being the King’s man and a hard core WEFfer puts multiple targets in the same set of shoes; a one man target rich environment.
I heard Carnage would roll over or fold whatever..for the Trumpster
Making Canada a US state is a terrible idea. It would give the left-wing of the Democrat party additional seats in the House and Senate and make it even more difficult for a Republican to get elected to the WH. We might as well make Puerto Rico and DC states while we’re at it.
Trump does not really want Canada as a 51st State.
Trump would rather Canada regain her true sovereignty and prosper to become a great neighbor who has good trade deals with US. We could truly be on the same page for Hemisphere cooperation and defense.
Instead of blathering on about Canada, how about addressing the dumpster fire of California?
Two more oil refineries announced they will close, that’s three total in the recent past, over 25% of the state’s refining capabilities. Gas could go past $7 a gallon, Vandenberg Air Force base will face instability (they have a direct pipeline to one of these refineries), and a fourth refinery may close. This to the 4th largest economy in the world.
Phillips 66 in Los Angeles (SoCal), and Benicia Valero (NorCal).
It just hit me: how vulnerable are we then to terrorist attacks to remaining refineries?
Add in forest management. Newsome is hitting up DC for Billions now. I would say NO until I started to see immediate, large-scale, clearing, logging, and fire breaks being created.
Liberals killed California’s logging industry, but we need to log State and FEDERAL lands. Now! We could produce some of our own lumber.
POTUS also didn’t solve our water pro lems – we’ve had three bumper years of rainfall, but the system still flushes it put to sea. We’re not filling San Luis (transfer) Reservoir 100%, and we’re not recharging our aquifers through trench flooding.
Instead, the CA Water Board flushes the fresh water out the Golden Gate, some argue, to clean the Bay waters of municipal runoff.
Also, go back to issuing grazing permits. Tejon cattle Ranch grazed the Los Angeles mountains for years and years. There were no Los Angeles mountain fires back then. No fuel, no fires. It is that simple.
Agree. A lot of Canadians and their new arrivals have wacky west coast values. But I really like the bacon.
When Canada becomes the 51st state we will force them to admit that Canadian bacon is really just ham.
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
thats not bacon
It is my understanding that the 49.8 percent of Americans would consider foreign interference in American politics unacceptable.
Glorious chats of “USA USA” would ring out! How difficult is to understand that as Canadian citizens we resent such interference in our election. On July 1 of 2020 USMCA trade agreement was signed under the Trump admimistation! Want a reset…ok.,but recent comments have only helped those who will further the demise of our country. It should not be a surprise that any candidate that aspires to be our Prime Minister,not governor, must reject such rhetoric. I pray that the Liberal party and it’s literally paid media cannot over come the common sense Conservative agenda but words from the Whitehouse have done much damage. We will shall tomorrow………wish us well.
Speaks very poorly of your politicians and voters.
how so?
Election interference? Our president completely changed your elections?
yep
Trump has made repeated claims that he intends to add Canada as the 51st state. His comments are not, as many claim, trolling.
For Canadians who value their sovereignty this is all out war. Obviously they will vote for the candidate that is the farthest from Trump policies. Our loathsome liberal party.
I’m one of those conservatives who could care less if we were to join the US, but for a ton of Canadian loving conservatives this is a huge deal. The libs are taking in thousands of voters who want to ensure that we are never handed over to the US.
It blows me away that Americans are so blind to this dynamic. I read posts blaming our liberal win on our stupidity and I can’t argue. But why Trump chose to hand Carney a win is beyond me! He knows the power of his words. He knows he will sway the election.
I don’t care what happens tonight. I want to always speak truth even if it isn’t what we want to hear. I do have to point out that President Trump is cozy with Carney. That should alarm Americans. Moose on the loose podcast did a very interesting podcast based on Juno News reporting. Trump and Trump Junior have history with Brookfield management of Carney. Follow the money.
DD
Brookfield and Carney are tied economically to Trump like Siamese Twins. It’s the way business on a large scale works these days. So what.
Carney is Trudeau on steroids an i sway smarter.
I feel sorry for Canada.
So do I, and I’m a Canadian who loves Trump, but Poilievre turned out to be an a*hole. Carney is creepy and scary and the media (echos of CNN) won this one.
Trump’s statements seem accelerationist to me. Amp up the rhetoric and tariffs. Europe can’t subsidize Canada nor can it replace American consumers.
Trump needs Carney to win tonight to ensure we raise more tariff revenue. Canada is just a tiny fraction of US consumption. But every little bit helps us edge closer to the end of the income tax.
Eventually, Canada’s government will cut a deal. And if the so-called Conservative Party wins, that will send shockwaves. I think the Left will keep power, but the end result is they’ll need to cut a deal.
USA, after WW2, let countries take some advantage economically of us to help rebuild their war torn countries. Extremely nice and Christian of us btw. It was not intended to last 75 yrs! Even our closest friendly countries have done this to us on purpose. We, American citizen taxpayers have never forgotten. We feel it everyday in our pockets. Our evil politicians (obama, biden, etc) sold us out and strapped us with huge debt. Canaduh is a country that took advantage and added to our financial burden period. All facts. America bc of Trump is correcting this wrong. We are even very nice about it. But, other countries are lead by evil leaders as well ( canada, eu, etc) and they are supposed to be our friends. You know all the countries who actually believe in Freedom, God, Jesus, moral values, etc. Yeah, those countries are all lead by evil currently and want USA to suffer and fall. Well, we Americans are a free Christian nation, and will not bow down to any of you doing what you’re doing. USA has its struggles with elections and leaders as well. But, We have Trump! Canada has always survived off US subsidies. We allowed it, we have love and respect for Canadians. But, if canaduh keeps the direction they have been on for the past 10+ yrs. electing wef, eu leaders allowing china to take a marxist stronghold in them. Well, canaduh and its leaders and people might need a little bitch slap from big brother USA. Here’s the kicker and you Canadians should listen to this and know, this reaction on canaduh’s side is all because Trump(he represents a mandate from We Americans) asked our northern supposed friends to please help secure the border from drugs(fentanyl) and illegal aliens. Canaduh’s reaction to that is all of this. Canadians did this, Canadians did this to themselves as is their elections are for them to blame on themselves. All this said, us Good Americans will keep our Good Canadians in our prayers. The Good Canadians and Good Americans will always have a strong bond evil won’t break. Stay vigilant, eyes to the Lord Jesus Christ and we can get through this together. Quit winning and blaming Trump for your house.
Look at New York State the home of Donald Trump since his birth, a city he gave billions of dollars in investments, and New York City politicians wanted to throw him in prison!
Interference in an election is sending Victoria Nuland or Samantha Power to start a color revolution.
President Trump wishing the Canadian citizens or snow Mexicans well is hardly interfering with anything.
So how did you feel when Obama sent a crack staff of campaigners/electioneers to help Trudeau get elected first time (9 of them if I remember correctly)?
DP how do you feel about all of the Chinese interference in our elections – do you read Sam Cooper much??
Nothing Trump says caused harm to canaduh. Canaduh’s problems, like the USA, are canaduh’s problems that they created upon themselves. Same here in USA. Our horrible nonelected bureaucrats and lying politicians are not the fault of canaduh. Canadians saying Trump caused or interfered with the election up there is people not using their brain power, if they have any. Just a stupid talking point.
Canada’s been on the decline for many years. Trump is right, you can’t help those who won’t help themselves. Their inclination to self destruct whether by stupidity or brainwashing makes you not care, it’s exhausting.
I know several Canadians who have lived in the US for many years yet they chose to take the jab because a Canadian relative back home told them to.
Here is the the report from Juno News summarized.
DD
The gist of that excellent video is, the Davos class infiltrators seek NetZero policy to offshore Western energy production (energy independence), in the same way they offshored our manufacturing independence (that is, we made our own stuff.) Likewise, they have offshored much of our food and pharma production.
Why complicated self-dealing like the Kushner/Trump leverage happens is because these oligarchs are making a bloody fortune arranging all these nation-damaging deals, selling out their own countries.
(Also, please understand that the podcaster is not saying Trump instigated the deal; he was dragged into this mess by his daughter’s husband Jared. At that level, you often end up dealing with snakes.)
The last thing the USA needs is a 51st state in Canada. We don’t even need 11 ? different states (provinces in Canada ?) Too many are ultra liberal and some make California look conservative. Last time I flew in there, I had to pay $ 10 in cash at the airport before they would let me leave. Vancouver BC airport tourist tax. F that, never going back. Good luck, Canada, surviving on your own, you’re going to need luck and a lot more.
The Looney is weak.
I know Trump is joking, but I’d rather not have Canadians added to my country. Canada is center-left. We are still “slightly” center right. We don’t need the commotion that the Canucks will bring.
Carney’s company Brookfield that he was CEO of for 5 years has investments in Musk’s companies, Jared Kushner’s brother’s company, Peter Thiel’s companies etc etc etc Carney and Trump are attached at the hip in a business sense.
Carney is Trudeau on steroids. The only reason that Trump really wants Carney is for Carney to destroy the economies of Alberta and Saskatchewan. Canadian law allows provinces like AB and SK to leave Canada.
Trump expects Carney to destroy Canada economically so that Trump thinks AB and SK pack up and leave – maybe not as states but US independent territories.
Time will tell.
This is excellent insight. A scenario that I have not yet considered but extremely possible. You are probably more right than wrong. There is no secret that a liberal win will drive the prairie provinces to separate. I wish I had the money to buy dirt there. I’d sit on it for the day such a miracle happens.
DD
Had thought when you set up the place a few years ago, that it was in one DD. If Carney wins it’s going to get very bad for the good people in your country :/
And then if Alberta and Saskatchewan become US territories perhaps the Yukon and Northwest Territories will too. Then the USA will have more access to the Arctic. Maybe that’s what PDJT is after.
PP sounds better.
Recently he had to boast pro-Canadian stances to keep in the game.
Some claim he’s UniParty Canada. I think he’s met with Dr. Jordan Peterson some. He’s surely better than the two Eurowennies.
As usual President Trump is correct. The U.S. should not be supporting any country financially. Running a balance of trade deficit of $10s of billions is support.
We have essentially been supporting nearly all of our trading partners as we supported “free” trade. Free for them not for us. All other countries need to correspondingly open their markets to U.S. or pay the tariff.
Supposedly there is a large “Conservative” turn-out in Canada today.
Pierre Polyester is not a Conservative, but a CRINO, i.e. Canadian-style RINO.
We shall see what happens: it will make little difference, I suspect.
Imagine that.
BREAKING: A Canadian man has caught poll workers bringing boxes of unsealed ballots home with them
The Left are stealing the election again!
B-b-b-but they don’t use machines!
🤪
More ways than one to steal an election, and the Commies aren’t done inventing new ones.
Dims and EU likely helping them…
Romania’s High Court Crushes Last-Ditch Effort to Save Overthrown Election, Ensuring Globalist-Backed Re-Run
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/04/romanias-high-court-crushes-last-ditch-effort-save/
Trump boosted Mark Carney today by posting on 51rst state stuff.
Carney wants the US dollar to be dumped as reserve currency; it means that Carney is the worst option for the USA.
It is the USA that is subsidized by having the reserve currency and half the business Trump wants to shut down in Canada is done by US branch plants.
Canadians, Mexicans, Americans share borders so the idea that trade won’t naturally occur is delusional.
Only Trump and the cabal around him talk about Canada as a US state.
There is no Canadian political party leader or candidate in any federal riding or provincial premier or candidate in any provincial riding or city or municipal leader that wants Canada to be the 51rst state.
The US Republican Party will never vote for Canada to be a US state. Neither will the 50 states ever support it and all 50 states would have to support it. Congress won’t vote for it either or even look at it.
Canadians would not vote for it in a referendum and neither would Americans.
There would be legal challenges up to the Supreme Courts in both nations, the obstacles are so great it can never happen.
Unless there was overwhelming support for the idea on both sides of the border, talking about it is nuts.
Having the US Dollar as the reserve currency is not an unqualified good. Economist Robert Triffin explained this long ago:
“The Triffin dilemma, also known as the Triffin paradox, refers to the conflict of economic interests that arises for countries whose currencies serve as global reserve currencies. Specifically, it highlights the tension between short-term domestic objectives and long-term international goals. Robert Triffin argued that for a currency like the U.S. dollar to function effectively as a global reserve, the United States must run persistent balance of payments deficits, which can undermine confidence in the currency over time. This dilemma exposes the inherent contradictions in a system where one currency serves both national and global purposes. “. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triffin_dilemma
It doesn’t matter what Carney wants–he has no hold over anyone. I’m sure Europe wants to welcome someone into the fold that mooches better than they do.
Wanting Canada as the 51st state is incredibly foolish. They have a population roughly equal to California and are just as leftist. They would therefore have enormous clout in the House electing mostly Democrats as well as having 2 Democrat Senators. Canada would have as many Electoral College votes as California and they would always go to the Democrat. So no thanks to admitting Canada as the 51st State. What the hell is Trump thinking?
The USA has enough problems and enemies to fight without picking a fight with northern neighbor Canada. So unnecessary.
Not to point you out but did you read the article. We need nothing from them.
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Great job Canadians, just gave up what few rights they had left–but boy did they show up the Orange Man. Nice! Time to start buttering up the popcorn.
The results of the election in Canada will drive a wedge between the Provinces. Alberta already has 30% of its population that wants to separate from Canada. This total is significant because the movement has no leader or organization at this time. Saskatchewan residents have also shown an interest in separation. Americans do not realize how badly the western Provinces have been treated by the majority Socialist populations of the Eastern Provinces. We pay billions every year to support the East while our resources and economies are stymied by the same politicians we pay every year. These two Provinces are Conservative and would make great red States. Myself, my son and my daughter are currently looking to buy property in Alberta and move from B.C.. Many other Conservatives are doing likewise.
Imagine if just the central provinces became states and created a giant roadblock between the liberal coastal provinces. 😂
By what measurement has Canada been “America’s friend” over the past 10-15 years. What am I missing? All I ever recall is the Canadian socialists dismissing America and anything considered America’s interests.
Basically, I don’t hate Canada or Canadians. I absolutely don’t trust Canada as a country, for any spec of good will towards the USA or her citizens. Frankly, I don’t give a damn about Canada or it’s citizens. If they want to treat America as their chumps, sidle up to China, become a part of a newly anti-US, pro-Muslim immigrant AND anti-democratic E.U., well, good luck with that, and enjoy your next European led world war.
Many “MAGA” folks would consider me a closet “globalist”, since I still believe that forward deployed defense, in concert with key, capable allies, is better than fighting the next combat action off the coasts of Hawaii, Alaska, California, Florida, or anywhere on the East Coast. However, the tariff’s other countries hold against US good, and their reactions to being called out on their literally anti-USA tariff policies, makes my blood boil. I’ve never been more “America first” than I am today, and between the European led “Russia gate” hoax, and the current so-called tariff war, the rest of the world can go to hell.
Get out OUT OF NATO, OUT of ASEAN, and out of the U.N.. Negotiate reciprocal, bi-lateral treaties on a country by country basis, and be done with it. If a so-called ally decides not to pay their share of the mutual defense burden, or decides to levy 2x or 3x the tariffs on US goods or steal our IP, then it’s “bye, bye, was nice to know ya.” All these multi-lateral defense and trade treaties do is irreversibly tie America to the free-loading countries of this world (which is most of ’em).
Old SaltUSNR, I appreciate every word you say and feel, but I’m a Canadian. Sorry. I believe the Cons Party, that got cheated out of a win yesterday, has in it mostly Trump and USA- loving people. Truly, we are not your enemy and you’re right to think as you do because the left controls the media. They repeat MSNBC and CNN garbage while brainwashing the stupid & low-intellect among us. I, for one, am as disgusted and frustrated as you are. Really, we’ve been destroyed by the likes of Biden-types and we want out. My family would love to have your president, though, and your feelings are understood. Ten years of Trudeau whom they wanted out and now we’ve put more of the same in, and he’s worse – hard to believe!
Stop giving Canada billions every year.
I love Trump teaching all the freeloading nations a lesson!
The only reason carnage won is because his leftist commie globalist team spread bs propaganda about Poilievre & the Sheeple believed it