During his Friday broadcast on HBO, apparently Bill Maher started to catch on to the issue of fake media polling. Maher questions how Biden could be losing big percentages of his core constituency (by demographic), yet suddenly be polling ahead of Trump. It just doesn’t make sense.
Bill Maher: “45% of Hispanic voters prefer Biden, compared to 39% for Trump. Last time, he won 59%. That was 2020. So, he’s lost 14 points there. He went to Morehouse, he said, ‘What is democracy if you have to be ten times better than anyone else to get a fair shot?’ That seems like pandering to me. Black voters under 50, he led by 80 points in 2020. Now, by 37, still a lot, but he’s lost 43 points off the key constituency.”
“Student loans, he’s forgiven $144 billion in student loans, only 36% of student debt holders like it. I mean, If you can’t win the people you’re pandering to — I mean, I get it, politics is somewhat about pandering. That’s not even an insult. You’re supposed to do what people want to a certain degree, also be a leader, but if you’re not winning these groups, and he’s lost 8% off women since 2020. And yet, I read in the polls, he’s pulled ahead this week. Explain that to me.”
There’s nothing to explain. Media polling has always been manipulated in order to advance a specific narrative. Obviously, with the Trump New York Lawfare case now concluded with the outcome desired, the media intent is to give the appearance that Trump support has diminished.
Media polling, like the outlets who pay for it, is generally a fake construct.
I think Trump’s up 6-7 points nationally right now. He probably needs a bit more to make it too big to rig, even though that’d be a 13-15 point shift from 2020; which would be an incredibly large swing in the electorate. It might also dispel some myths about how ‘divided’ the country is if he were able to pull it off.
It would sure piss off the crazies if we all wore “Too Big To Rig” to the polls.
I may have to order that shirt! Great idea, cheering!
Or one that said this:
https://rumble.com/v2tkaoa-81-million-votes-my-ass-by-kari-lake-and-the-truth-bombers.html
MAGA don’t poll.
No. The MSM doesn’t want to poll them.
It is pointed out here regularly by a multitude of Treepers, most prominently Dutchman, and several others, by first hand accounts that they have been contacted before and decline. So that don’t fly.
Beyond that, how would the pollsters know who is MAGA and who is not? They can’t. So that’s illogical.
MAGA don’t poll.
Doesn’t fly. Pollsters have started to add tools to their repitoire to get Trump supporters in their polls if they want them. It’s just a narrative game. A construct. Fake news. They’ll do as much or as little work as they can to get what they want.
Avoidance. 👀
How do they know who is MAGA and who is not?
And if they do, how do they ‘make’ them poll?
Fake news, indeed.
There is no secret ballot voting anymore. Every ballot is uniquely stamped to tell them who cast the ballot, and the votes are marked on the ballots. The campaigns always know, within small margins of error, what percentages their candidate will get in the actual voting. The push polls mean nothing to the campaigns, except when they are used as campaign fodder by the candidates.
There are thousands of people who make their living running campaigns and they always know the differences between the real polls they pay for and the ones the media puts out there for everyone to see. It is all part of the game. There is only one poll that ever matters, and it happens in November, 4.5 months from now. All of MAGA will be voting on that day, I hope.
They can find out how everyone voted in 2020 and they know who voted for Trump. Using that list, the not so random polling can easily become a push poll. So MAGA don’t poll is about the best way to keep the Uni-party from knowing the outcome ahead of time.
Every one of us has a dossier in those big data farms. You probably have a rating Black Knight. Yours and my social score will get us a one way trip.
I don’t doubt it and never have.
I’ve been a thorn for a long, long time.
Keep it up, BK. I have learned from reading your comments.
Maybe, but MAGA themselves don’t poll.
🎯
Exactly.
I’m MAGA and never did or will do any polling! Polling is for Losers!
Maybe the MSM doesn’t want to acknowledge just how big the silent majority truly is.
🙂
I think he is already there, but the thing is, HOW would we KNOW?
Whether by accident or design (I think the latter) there truly is NO objective, unbiased way to evaluate what SHOULD be a fairly straightforward question;
“How much support, Nationwide for Biden, and how much for Trump?”
Can not use party registration, because 1/2 of States don’t record party when the register voters,…and can’t use voter rolls, cause pulease!
One way that might give us an accurate evaluation is by a mental; PRETEND like the 17thA has been repealed.
State Legislatures appoint U.S. Senators, instead of by Statewide popular vote.
Assuming a Dem majority State Senate or House would appoint a Dem, and a Rep ditto, what do we have?
Our Fantasy U.S. Senate would NOT be anything close to 50/50, it would be more likec2/3;
,…Republican 1/3 Democrat.
There is nothing too big to rig as long as the Deep State wants a certain person to be selected as President.
Two things
Trump won 2020 by record margins.. it was negated by overwhelming fraud. Biden could not have got any more than the usual 60 to 65 million that a Democrat candidate gets.. probably lesser.
Manipulations of the vote totals AND massive mail ballot fraud got him 15 to 20 million “votes” or “ballots”
You can be sure that every single illegal alien in the country will be made to vote for Biden and there will be even more shenanigans with vote tabulations / vote count swaps etc
Trump won in 2016 because there were no mail ballots then to help add to the electronic/voting machine fraud. In this year both voting machines and mail ballot fraud will reach levels beyond 2020.
The stakes are too deep for the Deep State to allow a fair and legitimate Presidential election to be held.
reality check…the epiphany that WILL HAPPEN…and to some degree arguably, already has.
NO ONE VOTED TO PUT BIDEN IN THE WHITE HOUSE> He was installed.
I am being nit picking on this point to drive a larger point forward for serious consideration.
see, many left radical democrats..real voters, actually believe they voted to put him in office.
it’s true. many of these voters actually do believe that it was THEM that won, that they did a good job and the system worked and the outcome was based on fair play. and that you and me and the likes of you and I are simply disgruntled radical white supremacist who lost because we were not organized…this is what they believe. they won the votes and put Biden in office.
but see, there is a growing problem with that position.
once the radical left fully (at least to the degree that many of them) realize this epiphany, the race will be on.
I doubt it will be President Trump they will chose to be the clear voice of reason they will consider, but you can already see some of the intellectuals who actually have some standing, stating out loud what most of us here at cth (and across the country) have witnessed and evaluate: that 2020 was a fraud. it was a coup from a secret police spy state, involving the CIA, fbi, international partners, and globalists “bankers”. Trump threatened the one thing they could not allow: that he would be making policy directly counter to that of the deep state…this could not be allowed.. the deep state had already captured the state department, ag, doj, director of fbi, and essentially Congress completely. they could not allow the white house with the one power they could not allow to be controlled by a man who would refuse to be manipulated and controlled.
if anyone has any doubts, this is why Biden was installed. he was pre-compromised from 40 years of participation and coordination of the deep state. he would be installed so that the highest power of our government, POTUS, could then become another captured power by the secret police spy state.
dummy radical left democrats will eventually begin to understand this…and when this happens, this type of stage 3 – awareness, closes the gap and makes room for stage 4….transfer of power..which is currently where we are in the stages of revolution.
it will get much more ugly before this business is over.
God Bless America
Well stated 👏
Ugh. Adam Kinzinger, Liar liar pants on fire.
Yeah, if you are trying to make a point and you get him to explain the disconnect, and he is doing it without tears….
He must have apprenticed under Bohner, learning to cry on demand.
Crier, Crier, tears upon his pyre.
The latest (Jun 20, 2024) Rasmussen Reports has Trump up by 9 among 1,000 likely voters.
MAGA don’t poll!
Add exponentially more!
And as gradually and steadily the Maga movement has grown, and so the % of the population self-excluding has steadily increased, Rumsfelds theorum asserts itself.
How do you account for what you DON’T know?
And the thing is, THEY don’t know, either.
But THEY like to push it, don’t THEY?
My wedding ….🥂
Births of my kids…..👶🍼
Okay, those were milestones. Daytime.
However, election night 2016 had me up and pacing back and forth for hours.
I could not sit down.
I kept chanting,”Please, God! Please, God!”🙏
Over and over …until…
I shouted,’Thank you, God!’🙏👍
Most exhilarating night of my life! I knew this was a pivotal point for our country.🇺🇲🦁👑
The steal of 2020 served a purpose. The masks are off. 👺 The treachery of the DC Sewer has flooded the streets across America. 🚽Significant numbers of citizens have opened their eyes. They are turning against the regime.🪠
Thank you, God for answering my prayers! 🙏May we please do it again?
🇺🇲MAGA🇺🇲
🦁👑2024
❤️🤍💙
History will show Trump’s greatest accomplishments will not be what he did as Chief Executive, tho there are many. Rather it will be the many forms of corruption that he directly, or indirectly, exposed to us on his journey to the White House.
I knew there was corruption throughout the gov’t., even down in the local levels. I had NO idea it was anywhere near the level that it is.
President Trump didn’t just open the door to let the light in, he ripped the roof off!
Amen.
The point of the fake polling is to create the plausibility for the steal with pallets of illegitimate ballots. They count for six days past the election and tell you Trump lost. Same play as last time.
SSDD
Should say “McConnell and FIL, Shipping Line”.
Sorry if I’m not up to my usual standards of reparte, I am heavily, and quite pleasantly medicated, lol.
“I am heavily, and quite pleasantly medicated, lol.”
Better life through chemistry!
Wishing you a speedy recovery from what ails you.
Do you share? 😄
we should all be prepared for this next stage in the war. I have zero doubts the fraud will continue. Where I have questions is whether americans do something about it this time…or not.
that really IS the question.
we know what they are capable of.
but do WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE CAPABLE OF?
you find what you seek.
God Bless America
Exactly why constitutional conservatives stopped answering any polling. All of them are leftists or authoritarian mouthpieces.
It seems that a primary reason to continue claiming that they’re polling evenly, all the way up to the election, is so that after (Biden) wins thru various means of cheating, they can still make claims of legitimacy by reminding everyone that he was always polling well, so therefore it must be reasonable to believe the results. It doesn’t matter that the majority (of the world, at this point) sees through it all. The narrative of it is enough to force the charade forward into the reality of the claimed result.
It makes the big lie even bigger.
Maher, like his media buddies, is ‘pretending.’
He knows! He’s a POS evil SOB, but he ain’t stupid.
It’s just that it can’t be hidden anymore and he has to admit things to his audience that are obvious to stay relevant for future use by his “handlers.”
That’s all.
Exactly 💯 💯 Black Knight
the pretending act has many dimensions. maher like many cast members of the media, understand and make a point to “consider all points”.
in fact, it’s one of the ways to manipulate hearts and minds.
you twist things up and suggest a wrong has been committed whereas before you refused to acknowledge it possible. this creates a sort of paralyzing tension for people who listen to this blather.
I am immune to blather. I do not listen to scoundrels. Maher is very similar to dershowitz…just a smidgeon of authenticity and some original thoughts to present the notion that objectivity is supported.
we know the dark arts they actors play. we understand them by their actions and deeds.
people who listen to maher will simply be misled into another area of the abyss…
people like maher are stooges…mercenary media bandits. deceivers and paid handsomely for the energy they drain from a society that should be acting in its own self interests…but has chosen instead to listen and watch embeciles on the idiot machine.
oh well, better than we are effective in fewer numbers as history has proven…too many Indians can’t make a fire.
God Bless America
The NYT reported that President Trump is leading among women voters by 8%, a 21% swing from 2020 when Biden won the group by 13%.
A new Des Moines Register Iowa poll shows Trump leading by 18%, after winning by 8% in 2020.
These polls fly in the face of the recent Fox poll showing Biden tied and the fake NPR poll showing Biden leading with Independents, when just about every other poll shows Trump well ahead with Independents and leading overall.
Not to mention Hispanics now supporting Trump in several polls, and Biden support from blacks crashing.
And not to mention that Trump leads in almost every poll in the battleground states.
These fake media pollsters must think we’re all just dumb deplorables.
Media has lied about everything. Take Covid for example. Everything they said was lies. They convinced millions to get an injection of who knows what and if you even ask one question you are a science denier.
Of course they lie about polling. It’s their job. It’s what they do. Liars. For Bill Maher to question this now at this point in history tells you how dumb he is.
Do NOT forget that the CURRENT primary purpose of ANY normally leftwing media’s reporting that Biden’s polling is dropping, is to prepare the public for Biden’s dropping out (removal) from the 2024 presidential election to be replaced by as-yet unnamed Democrat.
They do not want him to run. He is mentally fried. Kaput. Media narratives have been aligned for a few months to gradually ease the public into that imminent reality.
The polling company calls me and asks which candidate I will vote for and I answer “TRUMP!” They say thank you then hang-up and write down my response as “BIDEN.”
Who’s to know otherwise!
Sure. Nothing coming from the Democrat-aligned media is true unless the truth gives them an advantage, which it rarely does, given their extensive dishonesty and corruption.
So why would their polls be any different.
The “burn notice” was dropped on Joey Two Scoops in late May/early June of last year.
Excuse me but I simply do not care about polling.
Polling is something that is supposed to ‘herd’ people to a certain opinion. It assumes the person wants to vote like the majority to ‘join the right side’. I reject that premise.
Frankly I don’t care about a stranger’s opinion, they could be a group of idiots. Accept responsibility and the freedom to form your own opinion.
I might listen to someone argue a point IF I respect them but I will still make up my own mind.
Wisely spoken!
I agree. But why is it that our elected representatives including the Freedom Caucus cannot identify where the endless flow of money is coming for the DNC Why haven’t we been able to deport Soros or freeze his assets? I am overwhelmed with constant donation requests and some are insultingly equating my donation to my patriotism. I see the vipers trail but no dog tracking.
Deport or freeze assets of GS — ?
Because he pays the bills? er, bribes?
Bill Mahr trying to act all intellectually is tiresome. He couldn’t sissy-fight his way out of a wet paper bag.
Fake polling must precede cheated elections. The two are integral.
The Leftist poll-makers are chanting their spells, trying to summon them into reality.
This morning, President Trump requested not using the TDS afflicted one as a reference point.
OK, I’ll be the bad guy cynic. Do the math before crowing about or spinning the worry beeds about which ethnic group likes whom.
61.4% White
18.7% Hispanic
12.4% African American
6.1% Asian
1.1% American Indian
>1% other groups
So that 14% drop in Hispanic voters = 14% x 18.7% of voters or about 2% … a drop in the fraud capability ocean of: illegal votes, mail in’s, made-up or ballots altered during count.
Look beyond the hype. It’s hard to get excited unless the “real” number of minority voters in any of the counted demographics gets between 30-50%. Plus, that is the numbers who do not like Biden and not who are NOT going to vote democrat.
What you’re forgetting…
Every time a traditionally Democrat (Biden) vote goes to Trump, that adds two votes to Trump’s margin and deducts two from Biden’s margin.
For example, let’s say both Trump and Biden start with 100 votes. Someone who in the past would have voted for Biden now plans to vote for Trump. Subtracting that vote from Biden’s 100 gives him 99. Adding that vote to Trump gives him 101. 99 subtracted from 101 is 2, putting Trump ahead by 2 votes. Multiplying that by 10,000 voters would give Trump a 20,000 vote lead over Biden. In many normally Democrat precincts, that process would be more than enough for Trump to win.
Not sure thats accurate, doc00.
Traditionally, Repubs were a solid block of voters with a shared world view, and set of policy Prescriptions, as reflected in the Party platform, made up of individual planks covering abortion, taxes, foreign policy, etc
The Dems are traditionally a party composed of many different, disparate elements that do NOT share a common Worldview, and so like a “Coalition Government” inherently less stable.
It is often said a Republican does NOT have to take 85% of any of these disparate groups ‘away’ from the Dems to win,…however a DEMOCRAT DOES have to hold onto at least 85% of each of these groups, to win.
Their coalition is fracturing; the only reason they were able to hold it together for as long as they did, was because the RINOS never wanted to challenge the Dems claim of ownership.
Adam Kinzinger needs MOAB. The Mother of All Beatdowns.
The economy is in the shit and anyone who goes to the grocery store knows it. I went to Home Depot today. Usually the place is packed on a summer Saturday. Hardly anyone there. It’s sad to see — not many people doing indoor or outdoor home projects. Inflation is pinching big time. Biden has got to go and more and more people are realizing this everyday.
P.S. Adam Kinzinger gained a lot of weight and looks bloated. He is not well mentally or physically.
Local stores on payday have been extremely slow…. the Biden shitshow (crap) is hitting the fan.
Bill Maher is a shill and a tool.
Dear Adam,
trump isn’t just our candidate. he’s our murder weapon, and the GOP is our victim
..we good now?
Try listening to the Peoples Pundit podcasts on Rumble. He panned the Fox News poll as an outlier. Why? It grossly oversampled Ds vs. Rs and Is, and even had Biden outpolling Trump in rural areas. There’s no way in hell Biden outpolls Trump in rural areas in this election.
To give Fox News the benefit of the doubt. perhaps they were just doing their part to keep Trump supporters from getting complacent. Another possibility: they released an outlier poll just to get eyeballs. If you run into a Biden supporter touting the Fox poll tell them to go to Polymarket.com and put their money where their mouth is. Biden has dropped to -22 in the last month. They’ll make a flippin’ fortune….
But the “People’s Pundit” (Rich Baris) conducted that poll for Charlie Kirk last week that showed JD Vance the overwhelming winner of the people’s choice for Trump’s running mate, when the poll deliberately excluded Ben Carson and other logical possibilities in order to skew the results towards Vance.
And Baris has also spent the last few days wetting his pants over how terrible an idea he thinks it is for Trump to agree to debate Biden.
Fox News does not deserve the benefit of the doubt. They are not on our side. They are the illusion of opposition.
I’m trump all the way but Doug Bergum will take a bit of the wind out of my sails.
I’ll accept whoever Trump chooses as long as he/she is a natural born citizen. Not sure I can vote for a ticket with a Constitutionally ineligible non-natural born citizen VP even with Trump on top of the ticket.
the citizen free press (cfp) news aggregator website is paid big money to constantly and continuously promote the fake push-polls in an extremely sneaky and nefarious way
notice also how kane/cfp proffers snarky, seemingly pro magaa headlines with the goal of getting the naive and ill informed to click to a marxxist-stallinest media website and never to a conservative leaning site like tct, gateway, etc
that kane pos has made tons of $ backstabbing the conservative movement, a 100% total sellout
a truly loathsome creature
Exactly 💯 💯 regarding CFP.
👉newsammo.com is a better news aggregate site with News Site labels for each site that headlines are collected from in order for the user to avoid unnecessary clicking on undesirable site links 👈
I will give it a look, ty, Joel
I like Citizen Free Press and Kane.
freedom to choose and opine, love it!
what do you think of the drudge site, Max?
Well James clyburn says “don’t be surprised if the actual results are different than the polling”. Clyburn is trying to say “we’ve got this locked up on the cheat, Trump won’t win because we have the ballot manufacturers, stuffers and counters in key cities. Hopefully they can’t manufacture enough ballots to put biden over the top.
“……..apparently Bill Maher started to catch on to the issue of fake media polling.”
It’s quite remarkable that, in the past few years, an agnostic like Bill Maher has had more Come-to-Jesus moments than every TV evangelist preacher combined.
Tell me again how Trump fills arenas and Biden can’t even fill a lunchroom, yet Biden got 81 million votes? I thank the Lord every day that I no longer waste my time watching the boob tube! We need more poll watchers watching the counters!
The only pollster out there that is reasonably unbiased and accurate is Rassmussen. All the rest have agendas.
The national polls are meaningless. It’s the 7 -8 swing states that decide the election. And they’re all close even if Trump leads by 2-4 points. That is still a margin that can be overcome by cheating.
Nag dabbit!!! When bill maher tells you you are lying you are in deep doo doo…
Then there is adam kinzinger political genius extraordinaire…
A lot of voters always vote for the candidate they think will win. It is the dumbest way, that I can imagine, for people to select their choice for President. The theory goes, if I vote for the winner I will be rewarded with some of the free stuff the winning candidate will pass around. In other words, they are voting for more free stuff even though they may oppose every policy their choice stands for. That is why we need to make a lot of noise about these bogus polls. FOX News wants you to believe the race is close so you will decide not to bother to vote. We may know this is a hideously stupid reason to cast a vote, but the statistics definitely show that the front runner gets a significant percentage boost from these goober heads. I actually think most people in this country don’t even know what the word policy means, so when the media start the push poll crap I become more convinced that Americans always get the President they deserve. And about once every 30 or so years we get it right. This year will have to be that year. MAGA!
I think more people who want to vote for the winner as they see it want to feel socially on top and “smart.” And they like an authority of some sort as judged by popular appearance to tell them so, which propaganda fulfills.
I am sure his point is that the other polls should be fudged more, so that the one ridiculous poll doesnt stick out like a sore thumb.
To me polls are constructed by bookies for an outcome pre planned.
The spread of a poll favors the bookie poll maker.
Most polls are rigged like a macdonalds monopoly game where ronald macdonald always wins.
I made a joe biden poopy pants poll and ask the question, will biden do it again at the debate?
95% said yes with a plus or minus 5% accuracy.
5% answered, it depends.😂
because the polls are fake,bill.
just like those results in ’20…and the guy who “won”.
fake.
ipso-fatso…solved.
Trump in up the polls but he need to beat the fake ballots. In 2020 states hired outside help to register voter and they inserted a bunch of fake voter registration and the democrat know where the ballot are, so they just need to go collect them or print them out and hand it to democrat (no mail). Address that are in no where land, under bridges, house number between houses, bunch in rental mail boxes. I believe Pennsylvania have about 300k fake ballot, Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona, Georgia about 100k each.
Remember Trump with up 700-800k in 2020 Pennsylvania when they shut it down. The 18 wheel trailer from new york to Pennsylvania, that we know it exist but there no explanation as to what happen (no security footage at docking station). The vote date that same day or 1 day earlier than the ballot mail out date (they stuff the ballot, they process the mail in date afterward). This would explain ballot with no crease line (typical mail) and perfect circle.
Also from True The Vote those mules that go back and forth to locations that manufacture fake ballot. We know it’s true base on cell data.
Kinzinger’s new career as a professional Trump hater is just pathetic.
The post needs a warning that Adam Kinzinger appears in the video.
Treasonous Never Trumpers and WEF snakes make me nauseous.
As the Great Rush Limbaugh used to tell us for ever about polling. It is used to form thought, a narrative. Give the impression of what THEY desire and want and hope that the people believe it.
And guess what….THEY do that all the time! Not just polls during elections. The effing media does this all the time! And have been doing it for years!
The problem for THEM….is We the People have awakened and more awaken all the time! Their tactics, brainwashing, indoctrination, gaslighting and lying is just not working for them anymore!
Interestingly….THEY know THEY have lost even their own constituents now…..and so this is why THEY need the illegals…..voting…..and when they still lose or realize they can not win this election….they will use the illegals to create chaos, civil unrest and riots like we saw during the mostly “peaceful protests” during the summer of love. They will do anything to stay in power…and that includes destroying this country, our economy, our Constitution! And if a life gets in the way……well……thats just the cost of saving their so called democracy!
I remember in 2016 how Nate Silver of 538 polling had Hillary winning Florida over Trump. He based it on Hispanics leaning heavily Democrat! The only problem was the Hispanic population of Florida is mostly Cuban, not Puerto Rican. Two totally different cultures, Cuban’s are much more likely to be Republican …
Illegals are registering to vote in a huge way – by the social security office at the federal level and by blue states that allow driver licenses to illegals are auto registering the illegals to vote when getting the licenses. Also blue states are registering illegals getting any taxpayer paid welfare when they apply for their welfare.
What you will hear is this doesn’t mean the illegals will vote! That’s not the point. With all these illegal registered voters the marxist dems now have ballots to use like they did in 2020. There were localities/states where the number of ballots cast exceeded the number of registered voters. Some states have been forced to clean their voter rolls and they need more ballots to illegally cast.
As Sundance explained it’s the ballots, not the votes.
My mistake was in thinking that Bill Maher didn’t belive any of the stuff he said.
He does believe some of it, or he did. Wrap his head tightly in Ace bandages, and stand back a good distance.
Maybe in the old days they did some actual polling. You know, when we had the illusion of choice.
Now the pollsters probably make as much as the drug companies. They don’t have to waste money contacting people, they can pay just one person to write down the “narrative” results.
How could I possibly know to vote for until I hear who Taylor Swift is endorsing?
Trump is ahead in every battleground state Minnesota even! Yet Fox/NYPost has Biden leading in the overall race. These people are rottem criminals.
Kinzinger…..
Good God, is he still relevant?
How sweet Adam got through a paragraph without breaking down into a blubbering moron
F these Crap Weasels
They could be inflating Trump’s numbers to create a false sense of security. “He’s got this, it’s in the bag, we don’t need to vote.”