Put a fork in the opposition denials to what was increasingly obvious; it’s over.
Last summer we saw the fingerprints of the professional republican apparatus all over the construct that was creating the Ron DeSantis 2024 effort. The data was all going in one direction, all of the constructs were identical to the Karl Rove playbook with the single addition of the Republican Governor’s Association as a participant. As the months moved forward the Rovian elements became more and more clear. The DeSantis supporters tried to deny it, but the truth of the issue is just too obvious.
Now, insider republican political pundit Mark Simone admits that Team Bush and Karl Rove are the specific organizers of the DeSantis 2024 effort. Appearing on Fox Business, Larry Kudlow asks directly, “who is behind the DeSantis campaign?” Simone admits, “yeah, it’s Karl Rove – Karl Rove has been advising DeSantis, that’s why he’s been getting a little bit better every week.” WATCH:
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Thanks to user ‘Escalated Entrophy” who cut the clip for me after I found it. Additionally, CTH has also heard from a new source that has been hired to do part of the DeSantis 2024 campaign operation. Anticipate a formal 2024 campaign announcement within the next two weeks. The RdS team goal is not for DeSantis to win, the goal is to stop Trump from winning.
Everything is exactly what I have been saying it was since last August. CTH was 100% correct.
Uh, this is Mark Simone who knows nothing. He was a
Sinatra disc jockey. Come back to me…
HaHa! Too funny. It is really funny to think they think DeSlime is getting better each week.
Rovey needs to tell Ronnie to quit bobbling his head like one of those dolls on a dashboard.
Mark looks nothing like I remember him looking like the last time I saw him. Kinda creepy that he is looking like Luntz.
DeSantis choice is the kiss of death for his campaign. Willing to do anything, including selling his soul to become President!
Hahahaha. DeSlime. That’s fitting.
It sounded like Simone was being sarcastic (as they’d been criticizing his stumbles). Fwiw.
Completely agree! Slap across the face with a velvet glove
Agree.
Must have been atrocious before that then. Improved from atrocious to terrible.
DeSantis will stand a better chance against Biden than Trump will. However I won’t support Ron if he is involved with Rove or Bush.
Sure he will /s
In spite of the fact that every poll worth spit shows just the opposite.
Little Trump Wannabe just couldn’t wait until 2028. What a payback to the man that got him elected! Shows what a slime ball this little Bush Dynasty Turd is!!!
He’s not a TRUMP wannabe, he’s a directed torpedo from the establishment Republican Party/Democrat Party/Uniparty against TRUMP and anyone that wants what’s best, or at least much better, for the USA, it’s citizens, and the slow restoration of the USA Constitution.
Because Jeb lost so miserably he has a vendetta against Trump. They just need DeSantis to take enough votes away from Trump so he can’t win. Additionally, didn’t Jebs son lose a state election as well? Just a bigger vendetta to be paid by Trump.
one only needs to recall the recent Brian Kilmeade interview of low energy Jeb to know that team Bush and Rove are the marionettes behind RdS
One would first have to be willing to subject themselves to untold suffering just to get through any Kilmeade product..
Other than a few clips from FOX with Tucker through other platforms…I can not and do not ever watch FOX News…what they really mean by fair and balanced is that they are two faced! All legacy media is in on the money from the globalists from the plandemic to the actual take down of this country.
They are not pur friends!
All the Establishment, Uni-Party Neocons have put their ducks in a row behind Gov. DeSantis. Is it enough to overcome the YUUUGE Grassroot support of everyday working Americans? Stay tuned to find out …
Simone is a Trump guy, big time. I voted for Trump 2x.
I like the MAGA Agenda.
But here’s the question:
Who carries it forward after Trump? When? Can someone else do better than Trump now?
Trump would be a lame duck President from the outset and would not have majority of Congress willing to work with him.
And there’s the Bragg stuff and the Special Prosecutor still laying charges.
It’s food for thought.
Well, this campaign season for the 2024 election is going to really expose all of the fakes, RINOs, uniparty republicans, Charlie Kirk/Candace Owens types, every Never Trumper, every GOP lover, and every Trump/MAGA hater.
This is when they will have to pull out all of the stops and get everyone involved in destroying Trump/MAGA and the USA.
By the time that this battle has ended, our selection for “After Trump” will be small by mighty.
Mike Lindell could carry it. I’d be surprised if he wanted to, they’ve already been bashing him around a LOT the last few yrs.
The amount of work he has put into MERELY SUPPORTING TRUMP, with all he has taken in abuse for his Election Investigations and documentations, and what that has done to his wonderful business.
How many YEARS of that can a person take???
Kari Lake the dragon ! Absolute fire breathe and poised too boot. She, Gratz, and later MTG. GO MAGA
Like Ross Perot, DS will split the conservative vote. Can’t wait for Bush, Rove and company to shuffle off the mortal coil.
He may split off a small lot of voters, but Any that he gets, I would NOT classify as CONSERVATIVE voters by any wild description.
Well, along with the other mis steps pointed out with RonDa making this pact, it shows how absolutely tone deaf he is with the people he supposedly going to influence.
he needs to end this now and be a good Governor for four more years as he is also too young and try again in 2028.
No. Put a fork in him, he’s done.
People don’t come back after losing trust and showing their true roots. Think Ted Cruz.
Once a Bushie, always a Bushie.
AMEN! Absolutely!
That is a lot more than just a “MATURING” process. That is a CHARACTER issue.
The “GOOD” Stuff he is doing now is only a PLOY, for him, He isn’t doing it because he has the CHARACTER, he’s just trying to impress voters.
Bcz GOOD CHARACTER doesn’t simultaneously sign a PROPER Education Bill the People are SCREAMING FOR, and also STAB the MOST FAVORITE person of a Generation’s HIGH CHARACTER IDEALS – and stab that person in the back as often as he can.
His dallying with a 2024 Race betrayed his entire State, and we don’t even KNOW how many times he has both sucker-punched Trump AND ALSO stabbed him in the back.
We have NO IDEA if Joe O’Dea was one of DeSanctimonious’es FIRST Backstabs of President Trump or NOT, What about all those RINO DIABLO $$$$PACS he was taking money from to run in ’24, BY THAT TIME that he endorsed O’Dea – WELL BEFORE the GOV ELECTION in Nov ’22
Multiplying his betrayal to Fla.
So now when he is BAD NEWS IN THE NEWS, he signs the Education Bill the people of Florida are DEMANDING. That their Legislature has passed. He could not have done much work with them on that, his BOOK TOUR SCHEDULE has been SO incredibly Heavy.
And so now, because of the SCHOOL BILL he just signed, He’s a “GREAT GUY” with a lot of voters again.
And I DON’T think he is developing a SPLIT PERSONALITY DISORDER, either.
He’s just another Shyster, greasing the wheels to take on more con games from him.
No to ever being president. Once a traitor, always a traitor. He chose the side he wants to be on and it is not the side of USA/Trump/MAGA.
Raheem Kassam was Don Jr’s guest on the Triggered podcast this weekend. Neither one is a shy person. Raheem dropped advice from time to time and Don Jr appeared to take it in. (That would include Don Jr’s overuse of swearing.)
Toward the end of the interview, the conversation turned to political consultants. Don Jr revealed that he too had been approached to run for office. His take was that the political consultants were most interested in succeeding in the political consulting business. It is their gig. Advancing a political philosophy is secondary.
Don’t bother to look for Don Jr’s podcast on YouTube. He does not release his content on that platform. Don Jr is on Rumble and Locals.
https://rumble.com/c/DonaldJTrumpJr
I recall one of the few agreeable quotes from Jessie Jackson….”Stay out the Bush’s”
Which of course is utterly meaningless coming from Jesse Jackson, Siamese Twin of Al Sharpton.
Which makes it all too funny.
Pot – meet Kettle.
The truth is…DeSantis is NOT getting better every week, he trails Trump further each week. If Desantis wants a political career and be President, he’d better stay away from being on the same stage against Trump. There are 16 loser establishment wanna be’s that are not! Ask them how their careers are since then. On top of that….Rove? Are you kidding me. Same old lipstick on the same old pig. Nobody awake listens to that guy with the frickin board anymore…he’s an establishment hack rhino that stinks up every place he’s in…not to mention the Bush’s…….how we were all played by the Bush’s. But, we should have known about them…just look into the history of Prescott Bush, and you begin to wonder how the hell did we ever let these people run our government ever! Well, proof that we’ve had no real say for a very long time, they have always just installed who ever they want! Time to end this facade now that we know and send them all to some really nice warm place, down under…and I don’t mean Australia!!!
It’s too late for DeSantis, he’s already showed us all what he is made of.
He’s just another Ted Kennedy.
Ted’s wife had tons of guts to do what it took to stop him 3 Times. It was horrifying to watch. God bless her.
Best thing that could happen for Desantis is that Florida does not change the law about the governor having to leave office before running for president. If he knows he can not beat Trump, but he has to give up being governor to run and he had to make a choice…hmmm.
Could spell the end for him unless he decided to stay as governor…which IS what he should do. Obviously the establishment wows with money…and lots of it. Surely not from the intellectual point, because these people are void of any intelligence.
Having to remain governor may give him an excuse to get out the sh$t box he stepped into!
I don’t know or comprehend how people think that retaining DeSanctimonious as Gov of Fla is a “Good Thing” for Fla’s behalf.
Ecause he’s even better than many govs, he DOES try to do well for the state. And can get thing done.
Only a political dum dum wouldn’t have known all these things prior to even signaling that you might run. Any observer to the scene worth listening to would have known all along that Trump is unbeatable in the primary, and that DeSantis trying for the nomination would alienate him to the MAGA base. And also that if lawfare puts Trump in jail, you DO NOT want to be perceived as the beneficiary of that gross injustice.
Well said. How could he not have known this? I would not accept any nominee willing to benefit from a Trump removal.
I am willing to accept the *possibility* that the GOPe gave him an offer along of the lines of “if you run in 2024 we will back you; if you wait until 2028, you’re on your own.”
Still not good enough reason to challenge Trump.
For what it’s worth,…..Bill O’Reilly stated last night on his “No Spin News” program on Newsnation that he learned at dinner with DJT this weekend that Trump has not totally closed out RDS as a potential running mate in ’24.
Hmmm, we’ve had enough of this type of ‘compromise to win’ with the GOPe with GHW Bush dragging anchors on President Reagan.
Would be a big hoot, if RDS is playing possum with Bush/Rove program and later flips on them to run as Trump’s Veep,… but I just really can’t see it happening just now.
If so, O’Reilly says they would be unstoppable and that only Mike Obama would present this team a challenge for 1600 Penn in ’24.
Is this why Tranny-everything has become such an instant big woke wave this past year,…. setting the table for Mike who would definitely be outed in the process???
Do you really believe that President Trump told Bill O’Reilly,at dinner, after he has posted and even spoken personally (rally) that he would NOT (Or has NOT) considered DeSantis as VP because he is NOT LOYAL…?????
Sooo, when did President Trump change his mind?
Why did President Trump change his mind?
Loyalty has always been up there on the scale of Donald J. Trump’s hiring/helping people.
When did that change?
Excuse me, but I don’t always believe everything Bill O’Reilly says…..and perhaps President Trump was testing
Bill O’Reilly’s veracity and confidentiality….Hmmmm???
Hence, “For what it’s worth, Bill O’Reilly.” Bill said that Trump did not elaborate. O’Reilly may be trolling for eyeballs. We’ll soon see.
I don’t think Trump told Bill that he would even be open to THINKING about it. He MAY have said something TOTALLY NONDISCRIPT, but I do NOT believe he led Bill on, At all.
I think he would have been more likely to hint that SOON Bill would see what DeSKanKtinonious is really made of, INSTEAD.
WHY do so many people keep clamoring for Trump to help them feel justified in their warm gooiness over this BACKSTABBER???
Reminds me of the fan clubs we’ve seen for wild outlaw criminals.
That would have been a clever strategy for DeSantis to collect multi millions from the RNC establishment to run a splitter strategy against Trump and then just turn around and accept the VP position with all that cash to use in a Trump/DeSantis campaign. Lol
However, Ron has shown his true colors and they are not red white and blue.
At one point, I wondered if TPTB were building up his and Casey’s ego to trick them out of the governor position. But why would TPTB want to lose such a useful tool?
Interesting thought about Michelle.
If you think Bill O’Reilly’s speculations are worth two bits, then go listen to Trump’s WACO SPEECH and there are at LEAST 2 SEGMENTS full of his comments on the Back Stabber – in Chief.
Now you are free to observe that I’m not a bigger fan of O’Reilly than I am of DeSanctimonious.
I remember when O’Reilly didn’t do a thing when fellow Fox Member Geraldo Rivera Grossly and CRUDELY insulted the women Fox hostesses when they were at O’Reilly’s desk together, TO THEIR FACE, whether withy Bill, or in one case at least when Geraldo was guesting on Bill’s show as the Lady was Guest-hosting for Bill. And the insults were CRASS.
They appealed to Bill to admonish him, he didn’t have a thing to say. He ignored it.
From the man who continually bragged about his previous life as a schoolteacher……… I’d already seen Bi8ll giving smarmy commentaries enough to choke a horse.
And he had that grin on his face….
So I DO NOT believe he said ANYTHING of the KIND to Bill O’Reilly to DeSanctimonious’ Advantage, after the WACO SPEECH in which Trump made himself TOTALLY clear a number of times throughout that event!
Bill hears what he wants to hear.
Geraldo is crass. All the way.
I can believe that Trump might have said something noncommittal like “I’m not gonna rule anything out” while privately being 100% sure that RDS was a no-go.
Or, an alternate theory – Trump is saving RDS from himself by attacking hard early. The faster RDS gets back to FL, the better for his career (and the country). If RDS learns his lesson, there is hope for rehabilitation. So while Trump is not pleased with what Junior is doing, he is actually helping RDS here just in case it works out for the best down the road. Trump is often willing to give second chances.
Ron DeSantis will play the fool should he give up his governorship to run in 2024. Karl Rove and the Bush Family are seething at the chance to split the ticket to delete any chance at a Republican victory in 2024. Maybe the destruction of the US economy ushering a New World Order will finally be achieved. But I am a firm believer that Donald Trump is the man who can stop the slide in the abyss.
Tokyo Rove just throws money at the elections and loses .
Team Bush/DeSantis cannot defeat Trump with the traditional playbook, his grip on the party is too strong. There is one attack that could weaken Trump, which speaks to rumblings from his informed base. But since it also plucks an element from the globalist playbook and is part of the construct of the Great Reset, I don’t think they have the guts to use it (or will get permission, however these things work). Short of that, barring assassination or a complete Potemkin, false flag accusation, with crisis accusers ala Blasey Ford, I see the momentum as too strongly in Trump’s favor.
What is it?
Every time I see anything that is pro DeSantis, I ask the poster to look at his funding (big Republican and Dem money) as well as to look at his voting record while in congress (pro TTP, against the Wall, etc.). That’s all that ANY DeSantis supporter needs to know. DeSantis is a good governor for Florida (unless one puts their tinfoil hat on, and wonders if all of his FL policies weren’t put in place for this run to diminish Trump support). Sundance was right about DeSantis from the very beginning, and. I think that more and more people are waking up to this, as time goes on. Frankly, just the very fact that DeSantis has agreed to attempt to diminish. the MAGA movement is enough for me to hope that this play destroys his political career.
Live by the Establishment, die by the Establishment. In further news over the weekend Trump had an electric rally out West. Meep. Meep.
President Trump took this country and ALL it’s citizens to new heights, despite the rabid mob plotting his removal by ANY means, whilst he still had his hand on the Family Bible; being sworn in as the People’s President.
Having experienced that……………..these narcissistic, corrupt, evildoers are even more repulsive, than before.
God Help Us and Save Us.
President BUSH – the main who started the destruction of the middle east, destroyed the housing economy with the GREAT RECESSION and put the communist Obama in the WH and ROVE – a FOX NEWS PROPAGANDIST.
Rove and Simone need their income streams back. May G-d damn these idiots.
I am a fan of Ron DeSantis but not if he is involved with Rove, or Ryan, or Bush. Ron against Donald? I’d take Ron. Ron or ANYONE ELSE with Bush or Ryan or Rove I’d take their opponent whomever it is.
VERY shortsighted on Ron’s part if this story is true.
This is excellent news. Leaving aside the question of what it says about DeSantis — in my opinion, not much other than he might have been talked into making a mistake that he can still undo — it suggests that the people behind his campaign are basically has-beens. They have access to plenty of money, but the landscape has changed completely since their heyday.
The increasingly clear fact that the US banks are at war with the globalists who funded the takeover of the US political system — and who are behind the Democrat and GOPe components, not to mention much of the deep state and DOSD —
is key going forward. Wall Street and the US central banking system is the greatest source of power in the world, at least in the western world.
Who they back is what matters most, and their affiliation has been with Trump since he came down the escalator. If, as this and DeSantis’ floundering suggests, they have not jumped ship and gone over to some new candidate, that’s very good news indeed.
Not DOSD but DOD.
In the Republican party of today a Bush or ROve endorsement is the kiss of death.
Yes, not to win, but to keep the Uniparty lock on the country. Excellent point.
The other part of this is that the Bush wing of the Uniparty has ZERO interest in voter fraud. It is about screwing Trump, nothing else.
It seems to me that many people cannot see that trash talking your political opponent is standard practice for anyone seeking the Presidency. It does not make sense to pay attention to such behavior and even less sense to mimic it. I think President Trump can defeat every rival that he will face in the upcoming Primary season, which actually doesn’t begin for another 9 months. I think it is always too early to mimic the usual trash talking.
That said, it is not too early to be concerned that Neocons Carl Rove and George Bush are involved in the organization of the draft DeSantis campaign. Their choice of a candidate must be based on supporting the candidacy of any Republican who they think might have a legitimate chance to defeat President Trump. I also believe Sundance has supplied a wealth of other information that should be considered by all of us.
Both of these men have opposed President Trump since 2015. Rove, because of his ability to pull Bush across the finish line twice, can be assumed to be a lifetime ally of George Bush. Bush is obviously attempting to get his family’s revenge for the ending of Jeb Bush’s political career by Trump in early 2016. Knowledge of the facts does not have to include mimicry of DeSantis.
I have not even ruled DeSantis out if he is the only opposition to the Demcommies 16 months from now. The semi-good news is that the next probably rigged election is more than 19 months away.
So DeDumDum is going to sacrifice his image and future career to stop Trump (which will fail anyway)?
He’s stupider than i thought.
How stupid is DeSantis?
He owes his political career to MAGA and the MAGA King, VSGPDJT.
So who does DeSantis turn to, to carry him to victory at a national level?
The House of Bush and Turd Blossom??
Yeah, DeSantis is that stupid.
You mean DeSantus’ FORMER shadow candidacy?
The fact the DeSantis went in the direction of Rove and the establishment GOP et al indicates he has never understood the rank and file conservative mindset. His fight so far has been to attack woke isms and to blunt obvious leftist abject stupidity. While we appreciate that as a worthy cause, it does nothing to bolster any true conservative anti-uniparty bona fides. Then his acceptance of the “Rove-ian” GOPe guidance shows he’s unoriginal and wants to take the lazy way to leadership through coziness to established power rather than earn the mantle if support through creative thought and willingness to stand forth and take the arrows. Sorry Ronnie poo. We have an excess of these types already. Step aside and let real leaders come through.
Who is Mark Simone and why would I credit anything he says? I’m guessing he is a ‘Pundit” who works for one of the corporate propaganda services.
The GOPe will not run Ron because he can not beat Trump, so they will wait until 2028. They will not support Trump and will allow a Democrat to win in 2024 unless the voting system is fixed and Trump can win
Then so be it. The country needs to suffer more then.
Exactly. They JUST DON’T GET IT.
Really appreciate all the work you’re doing here sundance & company. Been a subscriber since 2015, or at least been reading you since then. Every time I login to see what you wrote I’m shocked China hasn’t somehow found a way to shut you down. CTH is one of my go to places to stay up to date.
And look at what the RINO FL legislature is doing.
https://www.rcfp.org/fla-defamation-special-analysis/
Florida is getting redder, alright.
CCP red.
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The good news is that if this is who Desantis has surrounded himself with, HE IS DOOMED!!! 😆
I’d like to see rove take his infamous white board and cram it sidewise where the sun does not shine on his ????
Rove is just another piece of bush – clinton – and oscummer/FJB deep state treasonous international crime families!! Guilty of both domestic and foreign treason!!
Bravo AGAIN, Sundance!
And Rove is certainly no Lee Atwater, for sure. It’s an insult to put the photo of the inestimable Atwater next to his sleazoid protégé, Rove.