Keeping in mind that State Department personnel are delicate wallflowers prone to exaggerated proclamations of situations, a report from U.S. embassy staff in Afghanistan trying to reach the airport contrasts a different narrative than currently outlined by the White House.
According to state department cables released to NBC news, some of the Afghan staff said they would rather take a bullet from the Taliban rather than attempt another effort to run the gauntlet and reach the Kabul airport.
(Via NBC) […] The cable, which was sent Saturday, said memos were sent Wednesday inviting Afghan staff members at the embassy to head to Hamid Karzai International Airport in Kabul. It told them to take food and to prepare for difficult conditions. “However, no one anticipated the brutal experience that occurred,” the cable said.
Staffers reported being jostled, hit, spat on and cursed at by Taliban fighters at checkpoints near the airport, it said, adding that criminals were taking advantage of the chaos while the U.S. military tried to maintain order “in an extremely physical situation.”
Some staff members reported that they were almost separated from their children, while others collapsed in a crush of people and had to be taken to hospitals with injuries, the cable said. Others said they had collapsed on the road because of heat exhaustion, it said.
“It would be better to die under the Taliban’s bullet” than face the crowds again, a staff member was quoted as saying in the cable. “Happy to die here, but with dignity and pride,” another said. (read more)
This issue was raised again today to the State Department.
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Meanwhile, back in the White House, Press Secretary Jen Psaki said: “It’s irresponsible to say that Americans are stranded.” WATCH:
“The US military is advising President Joe Biden that he must decide by Tuesday whether to extend the evacuation in Afghanistan beyond August 31, according to a defense official directly familiar with the discussions, though Biden has yet to make a decision.
Military advisers have told the White House that the decision must be made by Tuesday in order to have enough time to withdraw the 5,800 troops currently on the ground, as well as their equipment and weapons. If the President agrees, the military anticipates “a few more days” of trying to evacuate as many people as possible before the drawdown of US forces begins, possibly at the end of this week.”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/ever-happened-us-military-gives-joe-biden-tuesday-decide-whether-extend-mission-afghanistan-past-aug-31/
Yeah, like they care about leaving weapons… they don’t even care about American citizens.
High treason – the abandonment of US citizens and military assets. Aiding and abetting the enemy.
will the rinos act?
First error….Biden isn’t making the decisions..Susan Rice is.
Does it matter?
…and there’s your trouble.
Never seen anything intelligent or wise be uttered by Ms. Rice. She, in turn, is guided by Obama which is the root source of the problem.
There is unfortunately a very dark side to this trajectory. Once this debacle plays out, since the left is pure Machiavellian, their potential gruesome solution is that Joe must go. Not just leave the office…but all the way to where good Democrats go to vote (or should I say where people go to vote Democrat). Pin all the bad stuff on him and then mourn his loss as one who despite failing health gave his all for his country. It’s impolite to speak ill of the dead.
As I said, it’s grotesque to contemplate but if they’re willing to commit treason to win an election, everyone is expendable to stay in power.
Joe should double up on his food tasters and scoop his own ice cream.
Hear Hear! This is not Biden’spresidency and Afghanistan is not his mess. Equipping the Taliban to take over, replete with arming them with American ordnance and military intelligence to share with Hamas, Herzbollah, Iran, North Korea, China, Russia, whoever wants it, falls too perfectly in line with Obama’s plan for the country. He has accomplished more with Susan Rice pulling the strings of Joe the meat puppet than he ever could have with an alert, cognizant, cohort in the White House.
Biden is expendible.
And now that Obama’s greatest hoped-for damage is almost done, time to toss Joe aside – as soon as the general public can be lulled into thinking Kamala won’t be so bad.
The military does not want to admit the soldiers are already stranded and next as hostages. Kabul is going to be hell soon.
Yup…the first departing cargo plane full of evacuees that is shot down at take off will end the evacuation
American citizens…our brave soldiers, USG funded mercenary/contractors, NGO and “missionary” religious folks , CIA/DIA/Embassy spy men and women, support staff. Thousands, of our people. They will be all be held HOSTAGE. Daily beheading events, televised. Mark my words. Watch, the HORROR, that has yet to unfold.
At this point I hope the military comes home ASAP. It will mean fewer immigrants. They are bringing in thousands of mostly men around the clock to Dulles and other airports. As of last Sunday, 3700 Muslim males had been processed at Dulles airport. This will continue as long as the Kabal airport stays open.
I would like to add some info to my post. Just talked to my girlfriend who lives near Dulles airport and the Dulles Expo center. The Dulles Expo is a largebuilding that holds gun shows, home shows, boat shows etc. They are bussing Afghans from the airport to the Expo. They have it blocked off with jersey walls and yellow tape. Bear in mind this is a huge parking lot. There are 2 entrances manned by cops. There are lots of porta-johns in back and lots of busses. There is no media there. Keep in mind this is a building that is open inside, no walls.
The big question is where are they taking them from here? And what about the Americans?? Is anybody else as angry as I am??
First and foremost, I want our military out. We sent them there 10 days ago. They didn’t have a choice. I don’t know what the civilians knew or didn’t know, or what opportunities they were given to leave.
Biden keeps saying that he will “get all Americans out who want to get out” of Afghanistan.
I am thinking the reason Biden says this is because he is going to deliberately leave thousands of Americans behind on August 31st, and he will come out and say he got out “All Americans who wanted to get out.”
I think he also will not allow his spokespersons to tell Americans how many Americans have been evacuated because it will alert the American public just how FEW are actually on those planes out of Kabul.
He is a really disgusting person.
That’s his CYA..”who want to get out”. Brace yourself for the hostage videos. This time we have less friends there to find and get these people out.
That’s a good prediction for what might happen. Biden will announce on September 1st that all Americans who wanted to get out of Afghanistan have been able to leave; that American operations in Afghanistan have been successfully concluded; and that his management of America’s final departure from that country was not only the right way to get it done, it was the only way.
At which point the MSM in America will place a near complete lockdown on the reporting of any bad news from Afghanistan.
And when asked to comment on reports in the foreign press that a slaughter is taking place in Afghanistan, possibly including American civilians — assuming someone in the White House press corps actually does ask this question in the daily briefing — then Jen Psaki will simply claim there is no evidence this kind of thing is happening.
Vietnam MIA 10x replayed in 1/10th the time + some white genocide UN debacles in Africa 60 years ago, combined.
With a solid dose of Benghazi.
So…I wonder, approximately how many Americans currently stuck inside Afghanistan actually do NOT want to leave, and come home? My guess is
zero. Does this mean that those Americans who are slaughtered, or held in perpetuity by the “Tolly-Bonn” after 8/31, chose their own fate?
I suspect that the “Americans that want to stay” are actually Afghanis that are naturalized Americans.
Not nice, but I am curious how many native Americans are still trapped.
I figure zero
Right, so Americans want to stay behind and want to chopped up and spread across the desert because they love Taliban rule.
Is this the collateral damage the Che Pelosi is telling to expect to happen?
Stop saying Biden. This is Obama
Schiff happens. Where’s quid pro joe xidung? Hiding in the basement again?
Imagine if the Germans had jostled or swore at the Americans landing at Normandy, no don’t its too much.
of course there will not be a double-issue of “People” magazine with all of the stories of those surviving this horror to tell what they saw and heard . . .
“Taliban has held promises so far”
is that different from keeping a promise?
What about YOU, Joe – do you personally HOLD a promise or KEEP a promise?
I am just not familiar with that usage
Theyve waited 20 years…of course they will feign cooperation for a few more days.
Yep, Taliban the reasonable and cooperative. Good optics. The world is far bigger than the U.S. and we’re increasingly slipping from the catbird seat.
We have a real problem with our demented psychopath Joe Biden. It’s so grotesque how a person can knowingly masquerade around as the President only for a TV camera. He can’t go anywhere that’s not totally orchestrated, his first impulse and those that perform the charade with him is to keep him hidden, really at all times not just in crisis. Really, in crisis is when they have to drag him out and try to put a band-aid on the situation. We all wonder who’s handling Biden? What does it matter because the phantom doesn’t know how to govern either. How can you spend all your precious time and energy trying to make this enterprise work. Are they going to live this Lie of trying to put a square peg Biden in the round hole of the Presidency for 4 years? See, the Administration is the fiasco not just the debacles they are creating.
Don’t fall into the trap of thinking this incompetence is some sort of well thought out plan (sometimes operative selfishness can give that appearance); surely they want to destroy America as such; but they do not want to Fail miserably at literally everything they do.
Everything is Public Relations (PR). We live as part of a Machine that has its own will and takes its own course of actions. The best we can do is try and exert some influence over it through our public relations because we have no other real control. I once heard a CEO of a major corporation describe his job as being “like a tick riding an elephant.” And that was 30+ years ago. I imagine in this day & age it’s more like being “a piece of bacteria riding an elephant” (that explains the behavior of a lot of people in the public eye). Have you ever wondered why in all these severely troubled times someone hasn’t used the occasion to rise out of the Military and seize power using emergency authority; They know they can’t, the Machine would gobble them up. Look what it did to President Trump and he was lily white, had incredible personal means, and went about everything in a conventional manner.
See we’re all fighting for the “Social Order,” (we have to change the character of the Machine), which is why you’re always hearing me harping on the Culture War. Trust me, they don’t want these debacles – Egotistically, Promotionally, Optically, or Psychologically (remember their incompetence shocks themselves too). Total failure at everything you do is not a victory in the Culture War. It is being Vanquished (but the collateral damage is severe for us).
And there will be total failure in regards to the Biden vaccines too. We can’t allow ourselves to be guinea-pigs for an obsolete vaccine which is being undermined by this kind of corruption and incompetence (notice corruption and incompetence go together hand in hand). The stakes are the very health of our bodies over a flu that’s now turned into a common cold.
I’m warning the “the Biden Administration” – you go pushing compulsory vaccination and you’re going to see a Back-lash you never expected; faster than you ever expected (just like in Afghanistan).
We all know how smug you are; you won’t be smug when it happens here.
Joe Braggs – male prostitute.
Evidently, A Wonderful amount of serious information presented in 30+ continuous connected lines of text;
too much to chug-a-lug,
In the land of small fonts,
Double Spacing Every Two Sentences, if you really want to communicate, is your ”Special Friend”.
My bet those Americans remaining in Afghanistan are Left-wing Libtard Biden voters. This means to me they are void; Rationale, Judgment, Commonsense. They live in a World of La La land and are now getting first-hand experience of a real World.
I would had got out of Afghanistan no later than January 6th. Wouldn’t you?
Ryan Nobles
@ryanobles
NEW: House Intel Chair Adam Schiff just left a classified intel briefing on Afghanistan and broke a significant amount of news. Here are some of the highlights.
First he said getting all Americans and allies out of the country by 8/31 is unlikely..
Continue reading thread in Reader APP….
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1429960195359264770.html
Reading the staff members’ melodramatic accounts of the undignified treatment the Afghans meted out, reminded me of Dan Aykroyd’s scene in Trading Places where his character, Louis Winthorpe III, is describing to his fiance Penelope, his maltreatment while spending the night in city jail.
The spoiled pampered puppies don’t know what real mistreatment is.
I am pretty sure embassy staff are native Afghanis and they ARE being brutally assaulted
It’s official- they will be leaving our troops and many of our allies to be massacred by the Taliban.
Homeland- Season 4- was eerily prescient. I am watching it again and listening to what’s happening over there in real time.
This is the darkest hour for the scumbag Repubicans who are worse than their partners in crime from the other side of the aisle. We have been betrayed by our entire Government. Nobody seems to care how many people are going to die a horrible death from these barbarian savages.
I never want to hear another word from these bastards about trying to take away our guns. Not when they just armed the worst terrorists and drug cartels in the world.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9920895/House-Intel-Chair-says-unlikely-able-evacuate-citizens-Kabul-Aug-31.html
For my money, you could have ended that sentence after “I never want to hear another word from these bastards.”
Put on the heavy uniforms and equipment worn by our soldiers over there and THEN complain about heat exhaustion!
Bureaucrats, politicians, Dems, Rinos and Neo-Cons sure don’t mind sending our soldiers to do the dirty, hard, risky work – as long as they gain more money and power! And don’t have to be inconvenienced!
Don’t forget, these are the same people who believe “silence is violence.”
And also using the wrong pronoun?
Jan Psaki is the personification of the Karen Crowder character from Michael Clayton movie.
One of my all-time favorite movies.
And Jen Psaki is disgusting, worse now than she was as DOS spokesperson.
Staffers reported being jostled, hit, spat on and cursed at by Taliban fighters ….. Oh the horrors these woke wimps have to endure. Too bad the embassy did not have safe spaces set aside for these $ussies.
H/T to a member on another forum for nicknaming / nick-shaming psaki as. . .
Ginger Goebbels
Psaki is the spawn of The Heat Miser.
Heat Miser 2021 – YouTube
Embassy staff in Afghanistan, a war torn country from hell that despite relative recent tranquility from decades of stabilization efforts was in the process of being returned to its former rulers, the fact of which was announced publicly some time ago had their children with them? Is this normal? Do embassy staff in Iraq have their children with them? No children fortunately when Christopher Stevens was dragged through the streets of Benghazi.
“Staffers reported being jostled, hit, spat on and cursed at by Taliban fighters at checkpoints near the airport . . .”
Sounds similar to what my buddy endured when he arrived home from Vietnam.
Or if you root against the home football team in their stadium.
Years ago, I was at a Buffalo Bills game when they threw an obnoxious Vikings fan down the stairs.
So that’s why Al Franken finally resigned.
It was the British army who got the elite U.S. media from the N.Y.Times and the Post out of that hellhole. That’s how bad the situation is. If the pampered elite U.S. media didn’t warrant action from U.S. what chance has a U.S. citizen have for help? Like zip.
Like somebody said, this is like being tied up in a chair in a room with a toddler with a loaded gun.
Or monkeys playing with a hand grenade.
Ya, I saw that and have to agree.
There are just no adequate words to describe my disgust for these vile creatures.
I am curious, is the Afghanistan situation something you and your family (who I know disagree with you on most things political) can agree on? Are they still supportive of the current regime?
Many Left-wing Libtards remind me of a one arm man trying to hang wallpaper. If it is not there, it is just not there. Like the guy with one arm who cannot hang wallpaper Libtards have no; Rationale, Judgment, Commonsense.
Some can and do change, but it has to come within.I give credit to those who do change and eventually see the light, but all I can do is be an example of an American Patriot. It is not my job to drag them. It is their job to follow.
Hello fangdog. I was just thinking of Seneca’s family. Sometimes you can agree on a specific situation without agreeing on big picture. When it’s your kids/grandkids, it sucks. Anyone else, you can just walk away.
Question for ya.
where do you see Val Jar in all of this?
She was the one behind Obama.
I see Rices fingerprints, but I haven’t heard much about ms jarret, lately.
Is she still in Obama’s house in DC?
Sleepy Joe’s handlers are gonna fly jihadis into America to vote democrat. Think Minnesota on steroids. Remember alinsky rule number one. Never let a crisis go to waste.
Gyrojeffro, I heard Eric Swalwell yesterday bragging that his district had the largest population of Afghans in California. He spoke of going to “Little Kabul” and said that’s what we call it. I wondered how he got elected.
…and to beef up the wimpy Antifa shock troops to further terrorize Americans.
You know these State Department people are the bread and butter of the deep state. I don’t want them to be hurt, but I am surprised at how Biden abandons them.
They might be the wrong faction ?
paper doll, I don’t think there are any wrong factions in the state dept, and I don’t think there were any of the career diplomats left there.
When will our drones, missiles and bombers start taking out the aircraft and vehicles that the President left behind – followed by the stockpiles of supplies.
Oh, I forgot – Sleepy Joe is in the White House.
I guess it will not happen then…………….
I have a gut feeling things are going to get so violent and horrific by mid week. If people haven’t gotten out by now I doubt they will.
These imposters that have seized control of our country have zero empathy. That kind of sociopathic human-noid is scary to observe. Its like they are empty.
“Tolley-Bonn” (?) Sounds like some kind of amusement park ride, or maybe a ski slope. In Philly, we call these animals, these barbaric savages: “Tail-Uh-Ban.
They are not stranded. They just do not want to leave. They enjoy taliban way of life so much, they watch Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib on youtube while cheering terrorists to kill and rape more women.
https://therightscoop.com/gets-worse-for-biden-adam-schiff-leaves-classified-briefing-says-afghanistan-disaster-was-not-the-fault-of-intel-agencies/
America has become something between Afghanistan, Somalia and North Korea.
None of this is by accident. IMO everything, every decision was carefully planned for this entire outcome.
These Generals lied to President Trump, they ignored his orders and did what ever in the hell they wanted to do.
Are we really suppose to believe that they carried out every order a senile dementia patient gave them knowing how disasterous it would be? I calling bullshit on that one.
Maybe there are many reasons. Get rid of Biden, draw us back into the middle east, more USAID money to be laundered by creating another crisis there, Military Industrial Complex wants it’s money makers back….so many possibilities.
A few hours ago Jocko Willink posted a 3 minute “what I would say if I were President” talk on Instagram, about Afghanistan. Very good. Worth watching, especially if you follow Jocko and respect his work.
The Taliban have a tremendous recruitment opportunity thanks to Xiden. Hostage torture and beheadings will soon follow taunting Xiden to do something. The CIA will be pleased that they will successfully prolong our military presence in the Middle East.
Andrea Mitchell asking questions with that ridiculous mask hanging from the tip of her nose is an insult to our intelligence. Masks don’t work, vaccines don’t work, and Covid is not a pandemic.
State dept and embassy staff yes for the most part far left America hating sugar cookies and pussies.
But most of us want them out safely and returned home.
It’s more than they would wish for Deplorable rabble such as myself but that’s still the way we roll when fellow citizens are involved.
We are going to bring them home.
In 444 days.
World War Xi is chugging right along.
We know who gave the order, the commander in Chief. What I want made known to the American people is who developed the plan.
I hope the top brass who carried this out to have nightly nightmares, especially about all the deaths of Americans and allies that will occur, while they chose to keep their pension and rank instead of refusing to carry the deadly orders out, which they absolutely knew were deadly, but chose to abandon what little honor they may still have left to date.
I want the names of every person involved in the development, institution, and execution of the horror to be recorded in the history books. Even the families of these people should be shamed.
Sundance – when the decision was made to abandon Bagram, would the Gang of 8 been briefed?
Could it be this was always the plan? Distract the country with Afghanistan and pass 7 trillion in spending along with the federal takeover of elections. Biden then resigns.
Those aren’t American State Department employees. They’re Afghani staff.
Good conversation between James Howard Kunstler and Dmitry Orlov. America is a joke in Russia.
https://kunstler.com/podcast/kunstlercast-348-revisiting-reinventing-collapse-with-dmitry-orlov/
MSN reporting that Taliban will no longer allow Afghans to exit the country. They are not letting them get to the airport.
I feel sorry for those that helped the US over the years, but not sorry that we won’t be getting thousands more refugees. We’re full up here!
They’re not stranded, they’re trapped! Words matter.
Semantics are useful.
“Americans who want to come home”—WTF does that mean? As if there are any who don’t? What’s the purpose of that narrative? I bet we’ll find out at some point. When there are dead Americans, maybe they will be the ones who didn’t want to come home. LIARS AND TRAITORS.
The Afghanistan Embassy employees are going through what the Benghazi Embassy experienced. It wasn’t Hillary and Obama to the rescue – it was brave heroes who took it upon themselves to act and faced the enemy. They held the site until Help did arrive – and at a very heavy cost. We lost the Ambassador in that one – what will we lose in this one.
Voting matters. Even illegal voting!