A Lebanon County, Pennsylvania, restaurant took their COVID-19 $10,000 state fine to court and said “not guilty.” The judge agreed with their legal position that Governor Tom Wolf’s unilateral decrees were arbitrary, unconstitutional and not enforceable.
(Via Breitbart) […] “The crux of the legal argument is that orders that have been issued by the Governor and The Department of Health are legally unenforceable. Judge Garvey agreed with that argument,” said Eric Winter, the restaurant’s lawyer.
The restaurant, which is owned by siblings Michael Mangano and Christine Wartluft, opened its doors in May as restrictions ran rampant throughout the state in an effort to “make a living.” (read more)
I asked @GovernorTomWolf to comment on the Lebanon county restaurant “Taste of Sicily” that won the lawsuit against him on Friday. Here’s his response:@CBS21NEWS pic.twitter.com/2A9qAkLqLY
— Asia Tabb (@asiaontv) October 19, 2020
If one restaurant and/or bar opens, the state can and will target the owner. But if every bar and restaurant in town opens; and if everyone ignores and dispatches the silly dictates of the local, regional or state officials; there isn’t a damned thing they can do about it.
Unfortunately, the cost of fighting back against these dictates is considerable. Lawyers and legal fights cost money; thus the state enforcement authorities start out with a massive advantage to deny freedom.
However, the power of the local, regional or state authority comes from the expressed consent of the people. As soon as the majority of people deny that consent, those officials and state authoritarians lose all of their power. Mass civil disobedience works specifically well in countering arbitrary dictates. The reason most do not fight is their fear. Yes, it really is that simple.
(Local CBS News) […] Masks and social distancing were not required at the restaurant and they didn’t have plexiglass barriers.
The restaurant’s spokesperson Mike Magnano said, “We were absolutely ecstatic. You know a lot of people said a lot of different things about Taste of Sicily. We were selfish. All we cared about was business and money and it’s like we need to make a living.”
Magnano said after being closed during the statewide shutdown, Taste of Sicily opened back up to full capacity in the yellow phase citing financial struggles.
“Seeing that again, the business needed it. The family needed it and they needed to do things to survive. They went ahead and reopened. And at that point, they had great support from the local level elected officials,” said Eric Winter, Attorney for Prince Law Offices.
Magnano’s attorney Winter said the Department of Agriculture tried to cite the restaurant for things they couldn’t lawfully cite them for. Winter adds citations have to be prosecuted by the attorney general or local district attorney.
Taste of Sicily pleaded not guilty. Judge Carl Garvey ruled the family business was unconstitutionally cited and the restaurant was found not guilty.
“The crux of the legal argument is that orders that have been issued by the Governor and The Department of Health are legally unenforceable. Judge Garvey agreed with that argument, “Winter said. (read more)
This case appears to be a good example of Blue rules inside Red territories. The local officials were on the side of the restaurant. Once again highlighting just how fragmented the application of COVID-19 rules are depending on very specific areas and regions.
This situation, and the acceptance of an environment that is not conducive to freedom, is what helps drive many people out of the blue states, regions and even pockets.
In the aggregate Americans do not like these arbitrary dictates; and when you travel to freedom zones you will notice there are large numbers of very affluent democrats who have hypocritically fled from the choking outcome of their politics. Those far-left ideologues who can afford to leave blue regions do so; leaving the working class to cope with the crisis they create. It’s the most hypocritical reality imaginable.
It’s madness really.
A breath of fresh air.
Saying your business cannot operate due to a public health experiment, it is like immanent domain without compensation.
It has a legal term— “illegal taking.”
If the state received a public health benefit, maybe unjustly rewarded?
Pennsylvania voters have their marching orders.
Reject tyranny!
As do we all.
OK, this is super non-PC, but I thought your post said “Reject Tranny!”. Isn’t this the State with the rather unattractive transgendeedr health commissioner? Sorry Admin in advance if this doesn’t meet the CTH posting standards.
The image speaks for itself.
You are absolved of all guilt, Felipe.
Ugh these people. “Suddenly” Trump is “edging ahead” – they really think we are all morons.
Sorry by these people I mean the media and their propagandist pollsters.
We know what you meant Right Wing Gal.
Well sure. Didn’t we all notice how attendance at Trump peaceful protests, has suddenly increased? (NOT!)
And yes, they REALLY DO think we are morons, and that they are superior.
They are medical miracles. Never get hemeroids, cause they’re such perfect *ssholes!
@ Dutchman – ???
And tranny!
A war is won by winning battles, no matter how small. This will encourage more people to fight back until it is a tidal wave. JMHO
One fight I would like to see soon is a challenge to all these palpably unconstitutional edicts issued by petty Tyrants purporting to restrict/encumber interstate travel.
Apart from the facial insufficiency of these decrees, they are utterly arbitrary and capricious. A resident of an unaffected area of Florida (even by the silly statistics the Tyrants rely on in making policy) cannot freely travel to NYS (even though the same silly statistics say NY is worse).
Unfortunately in “other news” we have:
4th Circuit Gives Victory to North Carolina Democrats; Dissenting Judges Urge Appeal to SCOTUS
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/21/4th-circuit-gives-victory-to-north-carolina-democrats-dissenting-judges-urge-appeal-to-supreme-court/
Chief Justice John Roberts is all in. Hopefully Judge Barrett will be seated and join Alito, Thomas, Gorsuch & Kavanaugh in stopping this farce.
If you can stand in line at the United States Post Office every day since February and conduct a transaction with the postal clerk why can’t you vote in person????
If you can stand in line at the United States Post Office every day since February and conduct a transaction with the postal clerk why can’t you vote in person????
Roberts knows how Barrett will vote. He wants to pin it on her because he’s a flaccid Chief Justice.
Love this line of legal “reasoning by the majority:
“Nevertheless … this court is of the opinion that it is required to find that injunctive relief should be denied at this late date, even in the face of what appear to be clear violations.”
So clear violations are fine if you do them at an advantageous time. Law in the USA, 2020 version. ?
FTA –
“Politico noted that “the 4th Circuit’s three Trump appointees voted with all the court’s Democratic appointees,…”
WTF is going on with “Trump” appointed Judges????
More McConnell-approved betrayers?
Can’t wait until Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett is seated to tear these Marxists a new one. All of this Covid shutdown nonsense is unconstitutional. And so is any law that forbids Americans to voice their own opinions, nomatter what anybody else thinks about them.
It is unconstitutional to silence American citizens, restrict their ability to earn a living and congregate peacefully, play doctor and force them to take a vaccine. Every single thing these activists are doing to cancel America must be challenged and declared unconstitutional, once and for all!
Your words are true, but we don’t live in a Constitutional anything anymore, let alone Republic.
Hoping we can start slowly turning that around, but it all depends on keeping the President in office, at the very, very, least.
Ready, I used to agree with what you wrote. I read your comments and respect your opinion.
However, right now, I believe the biggest contribution (and there are many), of the Trump Presidency is how it has jerked the American populace out of their civic apathy. I see this as a perfect opportunity to educate the participation trophy generations as to why our Republic was founded on our great constitutional principles of “Individual and Private Property Rights”. I see more people engaged in the political discussion than I have seen in my lifetime.
For the first time in years I can see our Republic getting a needed re-birth. It is messy as hell, but I would bet our founders thought their fight for Freedom and Liberty was every bit as messy.
Only my opinion.
I agree with what you wrote, but let us not forget the Tea Party. This movement was a huge part of the American populace who didn’t need to be jerked out of their “civic apathy”. We all knew at that time the Republic need to be fought for… Trump is responsible for opening many of our eyes exposing the depth and magnitude of the corruptocrats. Specifically, the last administrations evils. Don’t sell the greatness of the American people short.
You are right. I was specifically talking about the generation that valued pop culture and sporting events, over civic awareness and responsibility. I am thankful they are now engaging.
The Tea Party lacked real leadership with a clearly defined direction/strategy. The Tea Party was a grassroots movement made up of the same patriots right here on this site rallying for Trump and in essence the Tea Party hasn’t gone anywhere, the ideals are alive and will continue to prosper under the President.
Actually only now are we pressing the battle forward with Trump on the inside. I can see it dimly others can see much clearer than I. The battle began 2016 and continues to be fought the left communist have never experienced the push they’re getting and they’re screaming and crying and angry they play dirty.
But they gonna lose, the truth of the matter there is no way they can win as long as we continue pushing them, exposing them. They will eventually come apart at the seams. This is what Sundance has been saying the whole time if we stick together stay strong, positive and upbeat they can’t win.
They only win if we quit fighting back. And I can tell there’s too many tough individuals in this country to quit.
It ain’t just talk when Trump says we are of the same blood of those who turned this country into greatest power in the world. I know that it’s true there’s too many of us who refuse to roll over.
IMHO,
The Tea Party had clear goals, having focused on the nexus of the problem.
Their goal was to primary REPUBLICONS in the Senate, who were ignoring, contemptuosly, the base they were SUPPOSED t “represent” and working hand in glove with the opposition.
And so, caught by surprice when one of their own was succesfully primaried, they asked the Obama admin to slow down the IRS tax exempt applications, in order to stymie the Tea partiy groups, long enough for an infiltrate and disrupt operation, and general demoralisation to take its toll.
I suspect the pressure the IRS put on tea party groups, to furnish membership rolls, was so they could do NSA about searches on big donors, to blackmail or discredit them.
McConnell and co. got access to contractors, too. Thats why Republicons have resisted any effort to reform FISA.
The Tea Party was a grassroots movement made up of the same patriots right here on this site rallying for Trump and in essence the Tea Party hasn’t gone anywhere, the ideals are alive and will continue to prosper under the President.
Yes
If I may add:
“The Tea Party was a grassroots movement …”
… awaiting a leader with sufficient stature, prowess, backbone, and leadership
That leader arrived in the person of President Donald J. Trump
Thank you Lord
Amen
Thanks for fixing! Hey I see where Breitbart has done some reporting this morning on Joe Biden scandal with Tony Bobulinski bombshell
And a good opinion it is, at that.
I guess I look at it this way: I actually agree with your perspective at this moment in time. But I believe the moment is extraordinarily delicate.
Perhaps a metaphor will do here to explain what I mean.
When you put down grass seed to grow (the seed being the “rejection of apathy” let’s say), if you give it plenty of water it will sprout a nice green whisker stalk within a week. But then, you have about a month or 6 weeks, when it may grow a little longer, but the blade remains thin; it doesn’t look like your normal mature grass, though it may be as long. This is a critical time if you hope to have successful turf.
The *precise* amount of water, sunlight, fertilizer, etc. must occur and be very well tended for this grass to turn in to a part of your normal lawn and blend in the way you want it to. Otherwise, sure, you had the formerly brown dirt patch spring to life with some green for 8 weeks or so, but you’re quickly back to brown dirt, only much more frustrated than you were when you set out the first time to “fix this problem spot/area once and for all!”
I feel like we are in that critical stage. I do see what you see, but it is the green immature blades I mentioned, not really “new lawn” but full green cover and pleasing to the eye for now. Without re-election for our President, we’ll quickly return to our brown dirt patch again.
I agree with that. Good analogy!
That is what OUR FOUNDERS WANTED…too be messy as HELL… THE HARDER WE FIGHT, THE LESS GOVERNMENT WE HAVE…Our Fore Fathers took on the British and won…One of my earlier remembrances is when Sundance wrote about Francis Scott Key and the Battle Hymn of the Republic as SEEN THROUGH HIS EYES onboard a British Frigate…That OUR AMERICAN flag was being held up by men who had died so that it would NOT touch the ground all through the night and into the next morn.
Have we become so squeamish that we cannot do the same? It is OUR right and OURS alone to fight…and may the poor son-of-a-bitch called a politician, BEG for forgiveness…
Apologize for the some use of the words but it is NECESSARY to bring out what we are doing here and that is for the PRESERVATION for OUR way of life…for us and OUR GRAND CHILDREN—-GOD BLESS TO ALL!!!
Welcome to the Fourth Reich.
Only Trump can stop it now.
+ 2 more for truth, justice, and the American dream. We cast our votes for President Trump and the GOP all the way down the line today. We were in and out in about a half an hour. This in central Texas. 🙂
If you have early voting available where you live go for it!
Was gonna wait till election day like the previous 40+ years but might have to reconsider.
My Mom and I just now took our ballots to the home of our Republican Party club president who is going to the registrar’s office tomorrow – she will be taking another batch over a week from tomorrow – we just wanted to KNOW that ours are on the way.
Vote – and pray!
Done!
They musta forgot, all they need is a rude reminder. Come November 3th
Well, lets hope she rules differently than she did in the Pritzker case that she ruled on.
Rioters commit violent felonies as elected leaders look on approvingly, while honest working people are heavily sanctioned for violating non-existent laws.
Pretty much sums it up.
Is Xi of China any more dictatorial than Fuhrer Tom Wolf of Pennsylvania ?
Less so says this resident.
Many of those fleeing blue states for freer pastures are like viruses looking for fresh hosts.
Living in New Mexico and Colorado, been watching this very thing since the 1960’s.
Unfortunately antibiotics don’t work on viruses. I love his music and even got to visit with him a couple times, but John Denver ruined this state.
The legalization of marijuana by these states was a deliberate magnet to attract pothead Democrats to move there and turn the states Blue!
No doubt.
Right near my neck of the woods. Wolf and Levine are despised.
Lebanon was one of the first counties to ignore his mandate and he kept them “yellow” when the rest of the state was green, despite being under 10 cases for months.
Wolf is a total you know what. Glad the restaurant owner won. How dare him try to make a living so he can feed his family…The nerve /s.
PA is going for the President! 100k votes – just outside the reach of the fraud from Phila hopefully.
I live near Pittsburgh. Lots of Biden signs.
Rural Pennsylvania must vote BIG on election day. Then your prediction will come true.
Every vote matters.
We have Biden signs. Most of them are on highways but not in the yards of real people.
The +200 R registrations and increase in black vote for the President will getter done.
Plus the colleges being shutdown….lower youth vote.
+200k!
I live in this solid red county (67% Trump in 2016). Wolf despises the county for its resistance to him earlier in the lock-down. The feeling is mutual. Wolf is every bit as radical left as Cuomo, but flies under the radar because he has a demeanor that is a blend of Mr. Rogers and Casper Milquetoast.
Trump signs are everywhere in this county and we will surpass our 2016 support for our President.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS…………………….I’m driving to Lebanon soon!
This is what happens when theres little tyrants that think the Constitution only applies to them. Now here in N.C. the court has upheld ballot harvesting 9 days after the election.Go ahead- keep pushing We The People.
The husband of Senator and Democratic Vice Presidential Nominee Kamala Harris was in Wilmington, NC today.
Check out the crowd (sarc/there is no crowd)
https://www.wect.com/2020/10/20/sen-kamala-harris-husband-campaigns-port-city/
Guess “Heels Up” didn’t have her heels high enough??? Bringing the Hubby??? What is that all about?
Thanks for that link. The turnout was pathetic. How are people campaigning not embarrassed by this?
I was out hiking in western NC today and on the rural roads big Trump signs and flags are out. Sadly, I did see a handful of Biden signs, the first I’ve ever noticed. Must be NY transplants.
Mike in a Truck: Nine days? C’mon, man, make it two weeks.
I here been telling local restaurant owners they need to get together and agree that any persons including and especially any local officials attempting to punish any local restaurant will then be blacklisted from all local establishments. If you undermine your neighbors businesses you should no longer be welcome in any of them.
That takes courage though and at the moment they are able to seat enough to just get by. One Owner I talked to 2 weeks ago did tell me they were going to open indoors regardless the next weekend but I think the state drew down the restrictions 2 days later. Especially with it getting colder restricting outdoor seating there will not be acceptance of new lock downs here in the IL suburbs of st louis.
Timely and great ruling. Regarding the commentary about liberals ruining an area and moving to a red area it is rampant in the states around California. Look at Arizona and Nevada; also Idaho and parts of Montana.
I personally refuse to wear a mask as all the science (the real science not the fake TV stuff) shows they do not work and are ineffective against viruses. The virtue signaling and brow beating is unreal and I am personally fearful for the future of our society.
We just had a blow up with relatives who are addicted to MSM and literally have no idea how illogical and narrow minded their indoctrinated beliefs are. You can put the facts in black and white in front of them, they can agree to those facts, and still turn around and say the conclusion is wrong.
We have a large following in the industry we operate within and I advised businesses to ignore the edicts and force the politicos to close them down. I argued that by voluntarily complying they would not have damages… but being forced to comply gave them real and measurable damages they could then use to file suit once things chilled.
Wishing them many days ahead of spicy meat-a balls!
It is indeed madness. Our area in the Poconos is full of people who have fled NY for the relative freedom in northeastern PA. We just pray they don’t screw up our beautiful region like they did to NY.
That is the problem. Just like ilhan omar fled the moslem urinal of her birth and now wants to see the US become a hell hole just like home.
And after you succeed in turning us into a moslem urinal, madam, where are you going to go?
Send the Welcome Wagon…Don’t come here to bring “LIBERAL” policies that YOU think people want…They soon get the message!@@@
A sign in Texas said…”When you vote, don’t forget the reason you left California.”
I’m staying to fight for my lifelong home decisiontime16, so you don’t need to be concerned about me. I do what I can to help y’all in the red states they are fleeing to. I say to those leaving here Vaya con Dios and don’t let the door hit ‘ya. Oh, and a last word to the wise: Don’t take your blue politics you. It won’t be welcome and neither will you. I get some strange and/or unfriendly looks sometimes but nobody opens their mouth to argue with me.
That certainly is refreshing indeed. News like that is the oil of joy, “the good oil, the oil of value, running down the head and off the face, even Aaron’s head”
***Treepers Please Read:
Preface I’ve never placed a header on a post like that. But this is big.
I live in MI. Whitmer leveraged 2 laws on the books and wrote countless covid “executive orders” against them starting in March. Ludicrous. . 180 in all, One of the 2 laws, , the EPGA Act of 1945, aka “the race riot act” as originally named – was 100% unconstitutional from inception and slipped onto the books during battle of Okinawa. No matter: we learned just because it’s a law doesn’t make it constitutionall. Big wake up.
Net: MI Suprene court declared EPGA unconstituonal and whimer’s abuse of emergency act of 1976 illegal. All of her EO’s wiped out. Done. The 107 page ruling is a work of art. Red pill for me from legal ground perspective.
A soccer mom, as she might say, constitutional attorney from Grand Rapids crushed Whitmer. Katherine Henry. Please go to her Restore Freedom Initiative site and watch her YouTube video as she breaks down all mask orders from a constituonal perspective. Priceless. It changed everything for me. I’m now “engaged” with local school board, their mean spirited illegal mask “edict” is unreal work of sick progressive intimidation. It child abuse. And unlicensed practice of medicine. I learned all this from Katherine Henry.
Whitmer tried a clone using her health dept. Not a single member of law enforcement will touch it. Or they are liable for big judgment should they tase a mom watching a HS football game.
Every single large corporate entity like CVS Walgreen’s Home Depot Dick’s have ripped their signs down, and/or placed “not medically tolerable” exemption on their site.. even Whimers original mask order had that exemption and I swear no one read it but me. I never wore a mask and have not yet. I was thrown out once, went quietly, and will never be back.
It ALL starts with US. Do not wear a mask if you don’t want to. Ever. Get tased get a huge payout. Otherwise this will never end.
Just a reminder some wear one not as a matter of choice – wear one or join the unemployment line.
Those required to wear a useless mask or be fired need to start filing worker’s compensation claims – headaches, dizzy, infections, cavities, etc. Get dizzy and fall? File a claim. Employers will stop if it gets expensive enough.
That’s not happening but maybe on a very limited basis.
It better start happening or our fear will enslave us! Americans have become so complacent in our comfort of living in the greatest country of all time.
Spreading this information that Sparty just shared with us is one way to shine the light.
It’s going to take more than a Trump. It’s going to take more than a four-year or even eight-year administration like his.
One need only take a view of all the apps for our computers and smartphones to realize how intrusive and commanding technology has become. Moreover, the genet has gotten out of the bottle some time ago with big tech realizing how much it can be used to control our life.
I think this is why there is this push towards socialism because it fits so well with the top-down control of tech. How this is going to be combated is beyond. I’ve seen it coming even since the days of punched card processing.
Good job, Sparty!
If you are not familiar (though you sound like you might be) here is a link to website you or other Treepers will probably be interested in if you want to push back against the lockdown tyranny:
https://www.thehealthyamerican.org/
Sparty, thanks for sharing this information! Fear and intimidation feeds the deep state.
Americans must hold the line for our Republic! It might get uncomfortable, however, living in a gulag under a Communist /Democrat regime is worse.
These are great people. Just regular folks that stand up for freedom. I follow them on Farcebook & they have done a tremendous amount of good for PA. Now, they have an organization that advises other small businesses how to open up 100% and beat the Governor’s illegal mandates. As an added bonus, they actually have two businesses, one a restaurant, the other a sauce company. I have used their sauces & they are great! Their Salsa is unusual and is the best I have ever tried. Both businesses are small, mom & pop enterprises and these folks work their butts off every day.
Pennsylvania Secretary of Health Rachel Levine is a “transgender”.
It isn’t clear from the wiki page on Secretary of Health Rachel Levine if “she” has undergone a biological “sex change” operation or is, instead, “identifying” as the female “gender”. (IMO, the wiki article appears to be carefully-worded to avoid having to state it positivelly one way or the other). [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Levine ]
What I want to say is that, *I* choose to recognize someone’s “sex” (biological) vs. their “gender” (subject to the moment-by-moment whims of the mind); and therefore, if Levine has *not* undergone a “sex change” operation, then “she” is a “cross-dressing” MALE and not a “she” (recognizing the “sex” not the “gender”).
The Left doesn’t get to make all the rules; and I disagree with their “rule” that we must recognize someone’s “gender” and not their “sex”. I am not aware of any law that makes it illegal to recognize someone’s biological sex vs. their self–chosen “gender” identity.
I choose to recognize their “sex”, not their “gender”.
Pennsylvania Secretary of Health Rachel Levine is a male.
I don’t care for the whole concept of “identifying” as one thing or another (whether it’s “gender” or something else). It’s a made-up concept brought to us by the Left to further divide everyone into groups that they then set at each other.
Nota bene: A different wiki page ( https://fact-files.com/dr-rachel-levine-wiki/ ) states: “Rachel, however, doesn’t like to discuss whether she took hormones or had surgery as she calls it a private medical matter.“. If that is true, then Levine isn’t revealing if he has or has not had SRS (sex-reassignment surgery). Under that circumstance, my choice to refer to him as HE is bolstered.
In our household, we refer to Bruce Jenner as Bruce Jenner and to Mitt Romney as Pierre Delecto.
Meant to also add, great point about a “made-up concept brought to us by the Left”
global warming/climate change is another such concept and it is truly absurd the way they claim “science” supports their idea of global warming/climate change and if you laugh at their crock, you “don’t like science” or “don’t believe in science” . . . the tipoff is when they call it “settled science” which to me is the most unscientific kind of thing to say!
I just want to use one of those empty stadiums, give all these “settled science” people a free admission to a full day of learning about sun spots – plenty of popcorn, hot dogs and drinks – play “Here Comes the Sun” at a high decibel level with Jumbo Screens informing them about the possibility of sun spots. Have a football game during halftime.
Good one ?
thank you!
I agree most heartily
And you know it’s about time we tell them, no that ain’t the way we see it.
Sundance himself said we are the majority then I think we should start pushing our weigh around, use it to push Trump in for four more and the use it to change a bunch of things that we don’t like.
When someone declares something obviously and provably wrong like their “belief” they are the gender they are in reality NOT, I assign it to mental health issues. Since when do you appoint to leadership, those who are imbalanced mentally?
The left keeps screaming at the world to “follow the science” for COVID and climate change but then insist that we ignore biological science. Nope, science is science, period!
…. yeah, and when it comes to the china virus, I’m “following the science” from March, when Fauci recommended that we NOT wear masks
just sayin’
Eat, eat!
This great news for the restaurants! Yay!?
An English man comes to the rescue. PTrump should memorize this talk and repeat it 24/7.
Thanks, 4sure. That was excellent, and I hope it gets lots of views.
My goodness. Thank you, Mr. simple working man from the UK. Apparently you can see much farther than most.
You have no idea how much good your speech has done.
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I’m sure Herr Wolf will appeal this decision just like he did with the Stickman decision. But I’ll take whatever victories I can get here in PA. ?
People are so fearful of running afoul of these dictators decrees. Sad how timid people really are.
My friends and I are going to go and eat at Taste of Sicily soon. Good for them. Here in Chester Co we are still pretty shut down. We are a fairly blue county of late but we are working hard to make it red. We have some good local candidates that we are hoping to get across the finish line. I see quite a few Trump signs but a lot of people don’t put them out because they get stolen. That’s a huge problem here.
My grandson goes to a college in FL and they are not allowing the students to go home for Thanksgiving for fear they go back with covid. How ridiculous. I don’t see how that is constitutional. In my opinion it is time for the president to call off the national emergency.
Its not time,…yet. Perhaps Nov 4th?
The college may find themselves answering charges of false arrest or false imprisonment if they are not careful. They might want to re-think that policy!
In my younger days, I actually went surfing on days like that. After almost dying, I ended that practice.
Hafta tell you, Joemama, admire you guys. I spent some time out on the West Coast (70-72, Camp Pendleton). Took a ride along the Pacific Coast Highway on a trip north to San Francisco but never once saw any surfers. Kind of a bummer because I grew up on Beach Boys and Jan and Dean tunes (60’s). ?
Janie, the surfers are all in SoCal except for a few stragglers in wets suits up north.
Economy-Crushing COVID-19 Lockdowns Contributed To 100,000 US Deaths, New CDC Guidance Suggests – 21 Oct 2020
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/covid-19-lockdowns-may-have-caused-more-100000-avoidable-deaths
While 200,000 of the 300k excess deaths have been directly attributed to COVID-19, researchers suspect that the other 100,000 excess deaths were indirectly caused by COVID-19: For example, they might have been drug overdoses or suicides brought on by depression, or a fatal stroke caused by a lack of testing availability.
Government has no business dictating social conventions and using its infinite power to do so.
If the government had a scientific basis for doing so (think alcohol) they would be showing us the science supportive of their position.
In lieu of the science that does not exist, they push the opinion of scientists.
Do not submit to their will.
Constitution 1 Communists 0
I just spent a week in northern Michigan. Hardly anyone was wearing masks. The bar’s and restaurants were packed, no social distancing. I think they took Sundances suggestions. The best sign I saw was, save America vote for Trump. I was truly in Trump country.