Fauci Resurfaces – NIH Panel Recommends Against Hydroxychloroquine Treatment…

Ever since the COVID-19 effort shifted focus toward re-opening the U.S. economy, National Institute of Health (NIH) Allergy and Infectious Disease, Director Anthony Fauci has been less visible.

This step-back allows Dr. Fauci to better position himself for maximum political damage when the operatives deploy Fauci as an expert antagonist who recommended against re-opening; which frames the soon-to-be deployed ‘dangerous Trump‘ narrative.

This political plan is helped by the virus having a greater negative impact on minorities. Thus the DNC media shall proclaim dangerous Trump attempting to kill black people.

However, in the background; and with Fauci’s crew working on the Bill Gates objective for global COVID-19 vaccinations; the NIH today recommends against any treatment for the coronavirus using a hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin cocktail.

(VIA NPR) A panel of experts convened by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases recommends against doctors using a combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin for the treatment of COVID-19 patients because of potential toxicities.

“The combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin was associated with QTc prolongation in patients with COVID-19,” the panel said.

QTc prolongation increases the risk of sudden cardiac death.

The recommendation against their combined use would seem to fly in the face of comments made by President Trump suggesting the combination might be helpful.  (read more)

Hydroxychloroquine by itself as a prophylaxis, is not discussed.  It is the combination with other drugs, specifically axithromycin, that leads to the current recommendation against use.  That said, the NIH connection to Bill Gates and the ultimately preferred vaccination could likely be influencing the recommendations.  You decide.

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560 Responses to Fauci Resurfaces – NIH Panel Recommends Against Hydroxychloroquine Treatment…

  1. I’m so confused and damn mad I could kick the family dog.
    COVID-19…. zinc…..HCQ…WHO…. NIH…Fauci….Scarf Queen…..WTF?
    Who, besides PDJT, should us common peasants believe?

    Liked by 1 person

    • trapper says:

      When all the alarms start going off, and that little voice in your head starts screaming “Bullshit,” listen to it.

      Liked by 6 people

      • Ding…..ding……..ding

        Liked by 1 person

        • stephen duval says:

          The VA study that Fauci relied upon is garbage. How can Fauci rely upon this study and dismiss positive results as “anecdotal”.

          The VA study administered Hydroxychloroquine after the patients were intubated. Anti virals have to be administered early in treatment. Anit virals suppress the replication of the virus, they do not reverse the damage the virus has done after massive replication.

          There was no randomization. It was not even a well defined study. Patient records were examined after the fact. 30% of the “untreated” patients were treated with azithromycin.
          Dr Raoult in France removes from treatment any patients with heart problems because the azithromycin can be dangerous. The Va did not screen patient for heart conditions. The VA attributed the azithromycin issues to hydroxychlorquin.

          Hydroxychloroquin had been given to about 2 billion people worldwide over the last 50 years. If there were comlications fro,HCQ they would have shown up by now.

          Fauci is incompetent or political to rely upon the VA study. He should be fired.

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    • XPmilligan8 says:

      Top,
      “Those who are capable of tyranny, are capable of perjury to preserve it”…L. Spooner. Follow the crumb trail, it leads to familiar neighborhood…Laurel, MD. Semper Fi, X.

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    • Dan says:

      Don’t believe that lying bastard Fauci who was all for hydroxyquinone for treating the Swine flu.

      Liked by 3 people

      • Porter says:

        Why is ANYONE listening to Fauci, or anyone from the CDC after how spectacularly WRONG wrong their “models” have been, and how they have utterly FAILED at controlling disease? They should be disbanded on the basis of the Gardisil scam alone!

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    • WSB says:

      Whatever you do, do not kick the dog. Dogs do not get this, and you might end up being lunch! Just sayin’!

      Liked by 1 person

    • Mer Bear says:

      Dr. Judy Mikovits!

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  2. Tom Reeher says:

    One one-hundredth of one percent of the US population has died from the virus. THAT is what we are eviscerating the economy for.

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  3. Bradley says:

    An interesting study is the 1957 pandemic where 116,000 died with the US population at around 170 million. Equivalent deaths from China virus would be 230,000 roughly. Now get this…the death rate in 1956 was slightly higher than the death rate in 1957. The pandemic didn’t even move the needle in terms of total deaths because mostly the same people would have died anyway.

    An honest media would be telling us that.

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  4. Free Speech says:

    Dear POTUS,

    Why are you letting this ass clown minion of Bill Gates keep people sick?

    Liked by 5 people

  5. Jaap Titulaer says:

    What rubbish, you only prescribe azithromycin or any other penicillin when a patient has a bacterial infection, next to another viral infection, like COVID-19. Or you, as a doctor, have a very good suspicion that this is the case.
    Increased risk of heart problems is less of an issue or relative risk when you have double pneumonia and are at risk of sepsis & organ failure because you didn’t use penicillin.

    And Chloroquine is used in the standard safe dosages, as have been used for many decades against malaria. Last time I did was in Mexico (one of the last countries in the world where it still can be effective against that parasite, elsewhere the parasites are now resistant to (hydro)chloroquine.

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  6. I think the Boss – AND his other advisors – got conned by Fauci and the Scarf Lady.
    I hope he can get us out of it before the rest of the Republicans turn against him for their own political survival. Sad.

    MAGA

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  7. Raul says:

    Ok, folks. This preliminary study is changing the recommendation on the cardiac safety aspects of the combination drug, not efficacy. QT prolongation is absolutely a risk factor for sudden cardiac death and one of the reasons new drug applications (NDAs) or relabeled use generally require cardiac safety studies. If you see prolongation, it’s completely appropriate to reconsider recommendation, especially for something like prophylactic use. The withdrawal of the recommendation – let me repeat – is based on the cardiac safety aspect.

    This means that there is a red flag here that needs investigation. It doesn’t mean that this necessarily is not a choice for treatment, overall. It does mean that there may be increased or additional monitoring and follow-up required. This is exactly what happens when you see this kind of result in any sort of clinical trial. This IS how clinical science progresses.

    When this proposed treatment first got attention, I had some concerns because of the drug’s side effects. At the time the president said use it, he was right. Since then, we’ve seen two important things. 1. The mentioned side effect. 2. Evidence that the mortality risk of the virus itself is likely not as great as we fear. So now we investigate this finding and we find out more one the nature of the risk so we can better triage who would most benefit from the treatment. Or which variation of treatment brings the most benefit and the most acceptable risk. Notice that FDA hasn’t rescinded it EAU or it’s compassionate use rulings? Nor do I expect them to.

    Welcome to the world of clinical research.

    Unfortunately, I expect to see a bunch of ignorant governors to greatly over-react to this and start throwing a bunch of rulings out that will hamstring the necessary research. THAT is where the real risk of harm will come from.

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    • jester456 says:

      I am a nurse and we use drugs that can give QT prolongation using EKG’s to check for it and don’t give me that crap every drug that causes QT prolongation isn’t on the market being used.

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    • MelH says:

      We heard fairly early on that Cuomo had a 100 patient test on Hydroxy… going but no results were ever mentioned. The odd things is that, as much as the President has touted the merits of it, there’s been no scrambling for access to it from the public. If my daughter was positive for the virus, I would be raising hell all over the place to get it. We aren’t hearing any of that.

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      • WSB says:

        News Blackout.

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      • Judith says:

        There is a scramble to get “game changing”
        Hydroxy & Zinc to those who really need saving: Fredo, Tom Hanks, Rita Wilson, etc.. After they all get to live, they tell us they really didn’t like it very much, and would never recommend it’s use on us proles.

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        • MelH says:

          I can’t believe I am going to say this….The President has said, in EARLY April there would be testing, drive-up and everyone can get a test in their own community. And we are still waiting. He pushed Hydroxy more than a month ago, and we are still waiting.. Is he not capable of follow-up, like the Democrats are contending, I wonder.

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    • Buzz Wenzel says:

      “Marijuana causes Q-T elongation”. Dr. Smith on Laura Ingraham. It’s been used for 50 years, safely for crying out loud. I’ll take my chances. I’d rather die of sudden cardiac arrest than drown slowly in my own fluids. thanks!

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      • Judith says:

        You and me both. No symptomatic, COVID-19+ high-risk patient in their right mind would risk the chance of dying on a ventilator or suffering permanent lung damage, versus a 1/10,000 chance of heart arrhythmia. It’s a no-brainer.

        And that is a risk that I can certainly weigh for myself. I don’t need Cuomo or FAUXI’s unsolicited advice and interference. What FDA-approved medications I take are between me and my doctor and nobody else!!

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  8. carterzest says:

    MOUNTING EVIDENCE TRUMP HAS BEEN RIGHT ALL ALONG ON HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE!
    (compiled/copied from previous posts)
    I thought it was time to begin to compile in a simple list format all the mounting evidence coming in from Doctors and Countries who have treated COVID-19 patients with hydroxychloroquine and their results.

    Here are just 5 examples.

    IMO, WE THE PEOPLE need to share this with as many people as we can to ensure the word spreads since many seem to have lock jaw when it comes to talking about hydroxychloroquine.

    And we all know who they are.

    So add doctors and articles you may have and I continue to compile so WE have an easy comprehensive file to circulate to friends, family and non believers.

    And of course each person should consult with their doctor first.

    1) Dr. Zelenko:
    https://newsthud.com/ny-doctor-successfully-treats-patients-with-drug-cocktail-zero-deaths-zero-hospitalizations-zero-intubations/

    2)Dr Stephan Smith:
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-stephen-smith-on-effectiveness-of-hydroxychloroquine-with-coronavirus-symptoms-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-pandemic

    3) Dr. Cardillo:
    https://abc7.com/health/la-doctor-seeing-success-with-hydroxychloroquine-to-treat-covid-19/6079864/?fbclid=IwAR0VHBkF4KAPiDOu-sBfqQVvx_yyzeMo6Ap2NQAV9h-RT_5J1rU-toApNOY

    4) Dr. Shiva: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFczfwW99kU&feature=youtu.be

    5)The Government of India:
    https://mobile.twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1246959015738986496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1246959015738986496&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftheconservativetreehouse.com%2F2020%2F04%2F06%2Fapril-6th-2020-presidential-politics-trump-administration-day-1173%2Fcomment-page-1%2F%23comments

    6) add Brazilian hospital with 500 patients in Brazil cured with Hydroxychloroquine.

    Key points from the article:
    “Hydroxychloroquine should be administered at the very beginning of the disease, from the 2nd to the 4th day of the appearance of the first symptoms, such as fever, cough, runny nose and breathing more than 22 times per minute. People who manifest this condition should receive the medication at home. The drug is inexpensive and has few side effects.”

    https://thedonald.win/p/FMSuw77t/hydroxychloroquine–azithromycin/?fbclid=IwAR3rjIvKmE6UOX7jDItyn8M7PDxzLmnM0GVP7IpkMpTJEIxpw6YGMV2kESo

    The coordinated effort to discredit hydroxychloriquine is stunning and perverse. And it’s a tell. https://bolenreport.com/saul-alinskys-12-rules-radicals/

    RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”

    There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. (Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)

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    • lunatic fringe says:

      Actually the evidence is increasingly in the opposite direction. There is greater indication that the hyroxychloroquine has not shown objective benefit. That is not a definitive answer on the question and its use is still being studied, but the larger trials have not shown benefit. Every account you listed is anecdotal evidence and only that. Don’t make the mistake of believing that I am drinking the kool-aid. I have prescribed hyroxychloroquine to 3 patients for what I suspected was COVID 19. All subsequently tested negative, but clinically they were highly suspicious and once we get an antibody test I will retest each one, because our gold standard test, the PCR, is 60% sensitive when used with a nasal swab. That means it misses 40% of those infected that are tested, so a negative test is not definitive. Neither are these anecdotal accounts of benefit. I would not fault a physician for using the hyroxychloroquine in this circumstance still, but the evidence is shifting in the opposite direction. The toxicity is over sold. We often use medications that can cause QT prolongation, but we monitor for it given that the patient will plan to use it for a prolonged period of time. In COVID 19 the recommendation in the outpatient setting is a 5 day course. The risk is not zero, but it isn’t great. Combination of hydroxychloroquine with azithromycin increases the risk because each of them may cause QT prolongation and in practice we will often avoid combination of using two drugs that can cause it and look too other combinations. There are some patients who have an increased risk due to their own personal factors. For example the risk is slightly greater in women. It is greater in those with significant heart disease, especially ischemic heart disease, and also with age. In one woman who was over 60 with heart disease I gave the hydroxychloroquine alone. In another woman who was 41 and in good health I gave the combination. The decision to use a drug or not use a drug should in every circumstance be done with careful consideration of the patient, the disease and the possible consequences of using or not using the drug. That is true for every drug, because they are not benign. Increasingly the evidence is that the hydroxychloroquine is not the answer. I am disappointed, but am also still open to the idea that it may be useful for COVID 19, especially early in the disease course where it theoretically would have the greatest impact. This shouldn’t be an emotional issue. I believed that President Trump was OK with pointing out that there may be benefit to generate hope. I also believe that Dr. Fauci was correct in pointing out that the hope should be tempered with the fact that we do not yet know the answer. We still don’t.

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        • Judith says:

          I wouldn’t go to this doctor @lunatic fringe because he is obviously still learning. I already know I would need Hydroxychloroquine + Zinc.

          The Hydroxy is merely a vehicle for the Zinc to cross the cell wall. Once inside the cell (hopefully early enough to prevent any lung damage from occurring) the ZINC is what prevents the virus from replicating inside the cells to destroy the lungs. Zinc taken alone can’t penetrate the cell wall.

          If given as a prophylaxis, or before SARS-COV-2 has begun to take hold, I am confident that results would be dramatic and I would not end up needing a machine to breathe.

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      • Ad rem says:

        Paragraphs are your friend.

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      • Buzz Wenzel says:

        try adding in the Zinc. Those who do see the most benefit.

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      • Bob Fornly says:

        Go pound sand. Your arguing against a mountain of success. Anecdotal my @$$ !

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      • LEET says:

        Lunatic Fringe:

        There is A LOT we don’t know about this virus. ALL TREATMENT IS ANCEDOTAL right now, INCLUDING THE SHUT DOWN OF THE ENTIRE COUNTRY! WHERE IS THE PEER REVIEWED STUDY OF THAT? Also, many were put on ventilators and met their death until Dr.’s figured out why and adjusted how they use ventilators for those suffering from this virus. Did we stop the use of ventilators? What about the doctors who used other methods to save lives that have not been “peer reviewed”?

        Why is it that that the only protocol being summarily disregarded and said to not be option for treatment until a large peer reviewed study can be done is hydroxchloroquine and /or chloroquine,.zpack, and zinc?🤨🤔

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      • cali says:

        @lunatic fringe: You say a whole lot about nothing!

        I assume you also recommend the flu-shot to patient although its ingredients includes among others: Anti-freeze, aborted baby boys DNA and more health damaging ingredients.
        Every year we have thousands of people dying from the flu and yet most of them took the flu shot. Very strange!

        Bill Gates is very active in Africa culling the people there with his malaria vaccine and yet nearly 500,000 Africans are dying after his vaccine.
        Additionally he sterilizes little girls with his vaccines as well as women claiming to be a measure of women’s health.
        Then there is the Ebola disease that is also intentionally injected as a means to plant the excruciating disease that is highly contagious.
        In India Bill Gates polio vaccination inflicted deformities and worse in 490,000 children that ignited a lawsuit against Bill Gates by the Indian government.

        Bill Gates has been banned from doing business in a number of countries in Africa and India.

        Bill Gates and his puppet Dr Fauci have committed crimes against humanity although Africa is far away and the media would never report about this do-gooder’s violation across Africa. But his crimes should be known!

        Fauci – a DS puppet naturally now goes all out promoting Gates ID2020 while attempting to mislead about the Hydroxychloroquine which cost $16 vs Gates #1,200 vaccine that includes the chip that would enable their endgame of tracking us no matter what we do.

        I lived in West Africa for years and took daily the malaria meds without ever having any side effects.
        Then there is the benefit of treating high cholesterol and lichen planus – a skin disease I suffer from that has not as of yet a treatment available other than creams etc.. This drug has additional benefit to treat other ailments.

        Fauci’s letter dated 2017 where he ‘promised’ that president Trump would be faced with a surprising pandemic said it all. That was in making for 20 years as described in Koontz book where he too described the corona virus that would befall humanity in 2020. No wonder he is pictured with Fauci, Gates and others who are all agents in charge of depopulating the planet.

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      • Walter L. Wagner says:

        Hydroxy by itself doesn’t do it. You need the zinc. Ask zelenko. lots of studies on zinc and coronavirus pre-covid-19. some people get zinc from multivitamins (typically 13 mg/day), so those people probably have some slight favorable result from hydroxy. the studies with the good results boost the zinc to about 50 mg/day, typical dose of a zinc mineral supplement by itself. Use an antiviral in combination with hydroxy/zinc, and an antibiotic to prevent secondary bacterial infections from causing immune system complications. Don’t be blind, read all of the literature; it’s out there. Email me if you can’t find it. retlawdad@hotmail.com

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  9. jester456 says:

    As if you needed more proof these people are evil and this is a scam they came out against Hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for COVID-19

    One thing to notice is that they said nothing about it not working and second they cite QT elongation(heartbeat) as the risk.

    I can tell you at the hospital i work at we constantly have to do EKG’s on people to heck for QT elongation and it is a common side effect for drugs. I saw someone taken off of a psych med recently.

    This is bull**** of course the method you use for drugs with this side effect is to do an EKG and leave the other 95% of the population that doesn’t have it alone and able to use the drug.

    This idea of an across the board ban on QT elongation would take a whole shitload of drugs off the market that are incredibly useful.

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  10. Screaming Eagle says:

    Microsoft Fake News today:
    -88% of Americans feel they should continue quarantining
    -2nd wave of Carona in fall could be more deadlier than first warns expert
    -NIH does not endorse hydro-cloroquine as effective in treating virus (unless used with A-Zinc at the bottom of the article.

    Keeping their foot firmly on the panic pedal. Bastards !

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  11. polk8dot says:

    Absolute madness!
    There are numerous drugs prescribed to and taken daily by thousands of patients in this country, which have a potential QT prolongation side effect. Nobody has ever suggested taking them off the market, or simply not prescribing anymore. The only recommendations are screening for heart problems beforehand, and monitoring afterwards, if patients are already taking other pertinent heart meds.
    Where is the list of all the people on that ‘Panel of Experts’? Where is the list of all the studies they looked at that prompted them to arrive at this conclusion? Where are those studies available so patients can inform themselves, and make their own decision?
    Pardon my bluntness, but Dr. Fauci and his ‘panel’ can go to hell!!! If I’m drowning in my own lung fluid, if I’m gasping for breath while my lungs turn to fiber, I WILL TAKE ANYTHING!!! Anything that might help me! This socialist medicine BS needs to stop right now! It is not up to them to decide what risk I can and cannot take!

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    • MelH says:

      polk8dot, BRAVO!!! Seroquel is a “black box” drug, found in testing to be instantly lethal SOMETIMES in the elderly. The patient had Lewy Body Dementia, for which there is no cure and no way to slow it down. Our family decided the risk was worth it and said “Give it”. The patient was almost instantly relieved and went on to live peacefully for 3 more months. MANY drugs are dangerous. MANY times the danger is worth the risk.

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  12. ncedgar says:

    Fauxsee is the Covid Chameleon. He comes and goes. And always has something different to say.

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  13. Uncle Sam says:

    According to Rudy Guiliani’s interview with Dr. Zalenko of Kriyas Joel on his webcast Common Sense available on YouTube, Hydroxochloroquine is effective as an ionophore which means it allows Zinc to enter through virus cell wall. The Zinc is actually the virus fighter, therefore the HCQ must be administered with Zinc Sulfate. The Azythromyacin fights any opportunistic bacterial infections. The treatment is as follows: HCQ 200 mg twice daily for five days, Zinc Sulfate 220 mg once daily for five days, Azythromyacin 500mg once daily for five days.
    Most clinical trials to date do not include Zinc and still have some good results. Dr, Zalenko must have treated over a thousand patients by now if not more. Jerome Corsi also has a good interview with him on YouTube.

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    • WSB says:

      Thank you for your post, Uncle Sam.

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    • Buzz Wenzel says:

      that dose was for under 20 year olds and healthy. He never got to give the doses for his other groups. Rudy interuppted him. Dr. Smith is dosing by body weight. He didn’t say how much but stated that Lupus patients are on doses 5 times higher than the recommended dose for covid (I think that’s what he said). He said it tonight on Laura Ingraham’s show.

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  14. majorkalhoun says:

    If Trump doesn’t dump Fauci, Trump deserves the knife in the back. We all know now the Communists in our government are fighting to block Chloroquine, the same drug found safe and effective by the scientific community, but shunned by the government medical complex as not worthy of their time to study.

    Now that we have clinical trials ongoing, right in the middle, NIH steps in to tell everyone to tank the results. The timing could not be better. If NIH were honorable, they would have waited on the results of the trials but they fear good news, as that helps Trump.

    20,000 people in the US will dîe because Fauci and his ilk want them to so they can have a political weapon to yield against Trump. Demo☭rats truly are mentally ill.

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  15. Uncle Sam says:

    It’s too bad this has become a political issue. Very Strange!

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  16. pap says:

    If I were President Trump, I would start looking for other experts and stop talking to this back stabbing lunatic. When he asks to attend any new meetings, give him a broom and say you start in the back…

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  17. Hawk says:

    The study the press is spinning was small, not peer reviewed, average age of the patients near 70 years old, overwhelmingly male, predominantly African American. All of those factors mitigate against a successful outcome. Additionally, they gave the treatment in the late stages of the course of the disease. So they got the result they wanted I suppose. The only thing I think they could have done to skew the results further would be to go to the morgue for test subjects.

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  18. Frank Klaus says:

    Even if President Trump fires Fauci now, it will be too late. The damage is already done.

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  19. Felix says:

    If Trump resigned tomorrow, all these COVID19 bull**** will disappear overnight and the shut-down gone in one week.

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  20. Julie says:

    Why is zinc not being used in any of these studies with hydoxychloroquine and azithromycin? Doctors have had the best results when the “cocktail” has included high doses of zinc. Studies that are sited with toxic cardiac side effects due to hydoxychloroquine may be due to the fact that chloroquine, NOT hydoxychloroquine was being used, such as in the Brazil study. Chloroquine is known to have more toxic side effects then hydroxychloroquine. Besides the fact that the Brazil study used the more toxic drug, chloroquine, it was used at 3-4 times the recommended dose. The veterans study looked mainly at patients late in the course of disease, most after being put on ventilators. Hydroxychloroquine, zinc and azithromycin work best earlier in the course of disease. Again, zinc was not used in the veterans study either. The potential cardiac and ophthalmic risks of hydroxychloroquin are rarely seen, and if so, is an accumulated risk after years of use. Hydoxychloroquine is a very safe drug as far as drugs go, and is even approved for use in pregnant women. It is extremely frustrating that hydoxychloroquine has become demonized and that there are very few studies, if any, that are being done on this “cocktail” early in the course of disease. As far as I know, the new NIH study is not using zinc, which is a key component to the treatment. This “cocktail” is cheap and can save many lives. It may be a long time until something better comes out. If this can help now, why are we discouraging its use and why aren’t the proper studies being done?

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  21. Linda Camp says:

    CURES are against the law. Don’t pretend you don’t know why they are bad mouthing hydroxychloroquine treatment.

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