Flynn Update – Judge Sullivan Grants Continuance, Requests Briefs and Sets Hearing Date…

Judge Emmet Sullivan has granted the Flynn motion for continuance and established a briefing schedule for consideration on the Flynn motion to withdraw his guilty plea.  Judge Sullivan has set February 27th, 2020, as the next date for a hearing in his courtroom.

It will be interesting to watch how the Bill Barr DOJ responds to Flynn’s request to withdraw his guilty plea. UPDATE: Flynn brief in support of motion to withdraw:

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251 Responses to Flynn Update – Judge Sullivan Grants Continuance, Requests Briefs and Sets Hearing Date…

  1. CopperTop says:

    They will remove POTUS Feb 7th so swift that he can’t pardon anyone and then DOJ will go full bore on getting his (Flynn’s) conviction upheld.

    Yup I’m that cynical.

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    • Then Pence becomes President and should promptly appoint DJT as Vice-President, and then resign.

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      • littleanniefannie says:

        Cannot happen if he is removed per the Constitution.

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        • SHV says:

          Not true…current procedure is 2/3 vote for conviction and automatic removal from office…second majority vote for disqualification, etc.

          “In the 1936 trial of Judge Ritter, the Senate determined that removal is automatic upon conviction, and does not require a separate vote.854 This practice has continued. Because conviction requires a two-thirds vote, this means that removal can occur only as a result of a two-thirds vote. Unlike removal, disqualification from office is a discretionary judgment, and there is no explicit constitutional linkage to the two-thirds vote on conviction. Although an argument can be made that disqualification should nonetheless require a two-thirds vote,855 the Senate has determined that disqualification may be accomplished by a simple majority vote.”

          https://law.justia.com/constitution/us/article-2/49-judgment-removal-and-disqualification.html

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          • SHV says:

            Interesting in re-reading the Constitution re:impeachment:
            ” And no Person shall be convicted without the
            Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.
            Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend
            further than to removal from Office, and
            disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor,
            Trust or Profit under the United States:etc.
            ****
            The Senate has considered conviction and penalty separate and in 1936 made the rule that conviction also equals automatic removal and disqualification requires a separate vote.

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            • SHV: To make removal and disqualification divisible is an absurd reading of the Constitution. It is clearly not what the Constitution says!!!
              It’s clear that negative consequences flow only from a CONVICTION BY TWO-THIRDS. If there is no conviction by two-thirds, there are no negative consequences. End of story! THIS IS THIRD GRADE READING COMPREHENSION!

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              • Per the Constitution:
                “Judgement in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of Honor, Trust or Profit under the United States…”
                The lawfare crowd obviously interprets ”judgement in cases of impeachment” as saying that ‘it doesn’t matter if you’re acquitted in the Senate. Because you were impeached, the Constitution lets the Senate disqualify you from a second term as President because, you see, we impeached you!’ In other words, the Bill of Rights doesn’t exist for these creeps.
                And it can’t go unstated that “judgement in Cases of Impeachment” presumes conviction, or you wouldn’t have judgement at all!”

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          • WSB says:

            There are no crimes. No statutes to try. Could We the People not file before the SCOTUS?

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        • WhiteBoard says:

          what constitution?

          they are burning it now by using it against itself alinsky-means.

          They don’t care. they have aligned with other countries in treason already and are prepared to aid them Attacking this country during our pre-revolution standoff where we DONT WANT TO FIGHT..

          an all out onslaught attack will come upon this country with the aid of these coup plotters and congress members.

          If Flynn goes so does the country.

          Little do we remember that this country was prepped to ERADICATE us from earth if hillary would of won. they had dehumanized us with language, trained the masses that what we are is equivalent to redefined terms of hitler. We are primed to be forgotten with no remorse by the leftovers as we were arrested, starved, fined, fired, etc….

          THAT WAS ALREADY OUR FATE – Trump gave us time and a hope to reverse the branding which he has done well, BUT I HEARD FROM A REALATIVE NORMAL HUMAN TODAY the phrase regarding trump’s guilt — ‘well what about the number or witnesses and all the people testifying what he did wrong, isnt that proof”

          THEIR PROPAGANDA TECHINIQUES WORK ON SMART PEOPLE THAT HATE PDJT.
          MAMET..

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          • Great comment WSB, but might I suggest that their propaganda techniques work on “educated” people that hate the best President ever?

            Big difference, I know… between smart and “educated”. These people are literally brainwashed with a YUGE headstart on getting them “there”.

            And it is well established that the dumbmasses are fully primed to accept HEARSAY as f’ing “evidence” without any consideration as to how utterly ridiculous and bassackwards that kind of “thinking” is.

            Yes, too many quotation marks, because… stupid people and up is down, etc…

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            • zekness says:

              the individuals who are behind this conspiracy and support this coup are both educated and smart….but clearly that is not their motivation….the ties that bind this small group of perhaps less than 2,000 specific people (not all are American citizens) is MONEY and POWER.

              Those that stand to benefit from having a severaly compromised HRC as president, realized the loss of her candidacy AND the new threat that DJT poses (he cannot be manipulated or leveraged..that’s what distinguishes him at the most fundamental level), are too numerous to count.

              But here is the thing…that was then…the NOW, is somewhat different and it’s very interesting how DJT strategized against this former threat and neutralized it:

              a. he lit the economy on fire and gave tax advantages to US corporations beyong wildest dreams..and it’s working…In doing so, he has not only mollified his former adversaries who’s interests were dealing with him as a threat to their money base and power, but he has attracted them to his cause on multiple levels…even politically: USMCA passes with bi-part votes..whoaaa!!!

              b. DJT now has installed and has an aggressive re-vamp in motion to reset the swamp. This makes him a threat 2.0 all over again…withstanding an impeachment trial, which is likely at this point for him, that means he has the power to do some very specific targeting at old enemies of serious weight and influence. We have already seen some former adversaries silently drop the hand waving..and we have definitely seen a drop in fund raising and contributions to the DNC from these same actors..whoaaa…(we are noticing)

              c. Based on simple common sense and intelligence, it looks like a landslide victory for trump re-election. The actions of the House DIMS have capitulated to a low brow, clown show to actually make a success out of an impeachment conviction. The power base notices this. So, it is with great care and a re-newed interest to abandon the current set of HOUSE DIMS and the DNC because simply it’s a stupid bet that will only lead to losses. It’s my firm belief that as we approach the election, we are going to see some of the most powerful “independent” leaks and opposition research paid and bought and advertised by some of the most powerful and classically democractic party-oriented “progressive” donors of the highest calibre! They see the value of having DJT remain and get re-elected. The DIMS offer only lessor losing positions….These corrupt private billionaires might be many things..but stupid isn’t one of them.

              the DIM’s will lose this fight for the oldest of reasons: they do not present better options.

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          • And sorry, “WB”! I am used to typing WSB around here and it just ended up there!

            WSB knows… I reply to her comments often, because they are as good as yours to me!

            L 😀 L

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      • Snellvillebob says:

        If impeached, President Trump can never hold another government postion.

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        • Stingy theory says:

          Check judge Alcee Hastings who was impeached and convicted and later became a member of Congress.

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        • Why was Alcee Hastings allowed to become a US Representative after being impeached and removed for bribery while he was a Federal Judge? My theory is that no one ever filed a serious challenge to his eligibility, so it never reached SCOTUS.

          Anyone?

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          • Stringy theory says:

            It did go to SCOTUS.

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            • SHV says:

              Best I can tell is that Hastings appealed to SCOTUS but SCOTUS decision in (Judge) Nixon vs United States vacated Hastings appeal. (IANAL so for what it’s worth)

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            • Really? Hastings? I never could find anything about that being challenged

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              • SHV says:

                FWIW, wiki: “Hastings filed suit in federal court claiming that his impeachment trial was invalid because he was tried by a Senate committee, not in front of the full Senate, and that he had been acquitted in a criminal trial. Judge Stanley Sporkin ruled in favor of Hastings, remanding the case to the Senate, but stayed his ruling pending the outcome of an appeal to the Supreme Court in a similar case regarding Judge Walter Nixon, who had also been impeached and removed.

                The Supreme Court, however, ruled in Nixon v. United States that the federal courts have no jurisdiction over Senate impeachment matters, so Sporkin’s ruling was vacated and Hastings’s conviction and removal were upheld.”
                ******
                The Nixon case, a unanimous SCOTUS decision, is the reason why SC won’t get involved in impeachment.

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                • NEITHER of those rulings directly addressed whether someone who had been impeached and removed could legally hold another federal office. And, IMO, a case filed by someone challenging the election of a removed party, such as Hastings, is a far different matter than an appeal over the conviction itself, and would indeed be a justiciable question.

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          • SHV says:

            see above…I was surprised when I researched the Alcee Hastings question awhile ago, that following a 2/3 conviction and removal vote, a followup “disqualification” vote is unusual…IIRC has happened 3(?) times. No disqualification vote for Alcee, therefore permitted to run for Congress.

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          • Remington says:

            Let me guess….he’s a democrap?

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          • Snellvillebob says:

            The Constitution, Article I, Section 3:
            The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments….

            Judgment in Cases of Impeachments shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust, or Profit under the United States.
            So maybe it was because Hastings was a Democrat, black, bribed people or just “Special”.
            Or maybe being a US Representive is not a position of honor or trust. We all know it is a position of profit, just ask a Democrat.

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        • Mike says:

          Trump has been impeached by the House. The Senate conducts the trial to determine whether Trump should remain in office or be removed. Trump is running for re-election in 2020.

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      • mtk says:

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_the_United_States

        In impeachment proceedings, the defendant does not risk forfeiture of life, liberty, or property. According to the Constitution, the only penalties allowed to be imposed by the Senate are removal from office and disqualification from holding any federal office in the future.

        Actually language in the US Constitution…

        Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States; but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

        That being said how is it…

        https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/12/democrats-let-impeached-federal-judge-and-congressman-hastings-set-rules-for-trump-impeachment/

        The Rep Hastings should not have been able to run for Congress. Period. EndofStory.
        Yet there he is sitting on the Rules Committee.

        The part of the Constitution that says…

        “…, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States;…”

        If the President is removed from Office, “How quickly do you think Lawfare would argue that serving on a board of a corporation is a position of honor and trust when it comes to the President?”

        Yet Mr. Hastings was allowed to run for Congress even though he was impeached off the bench.

        Flipping unbelievable.

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    • Fubu says:

      CopperTop, you need to lay off the moonshine. You be tripping man.

      Liked by 15 people

    • another face in the crowd says:

      History makes it hard not to be that cynical.
      However, I pray and hope that what you have written does not come to pass. Hopefully truth, justice and the American way will succeed once again.

      Liked by 6 people

    • Bill Durham says:

      Fear porn. If you are wrong, will you stop commenting here?

      Liked by 11 people

      • Dutchman says:

        Bill Durham,
        WHO, exactly are you to suggest someone else leave?
        I don’t agree with Coppertops pessimistic assesment, but defend his right to express it.

        There has been far too much branding members as trolls, rolcons, eeyores.

        If you disagree with a posters opinion, post your own comments, and cite facts when possible to support your position.

        HOW,does it edify anyone, or benefit this site to post what you posted?

        Aside from Coppertop, how many other treepers read such drivel, and conclude the,CTH comments,section is no different than Fox or Brietbart, where you can’t follow a,string for more than 3-5 comments, without getting to name calling?

        Let us all try to ELEVATE,the comments section, to something close to the high level our host has achieved in HIS articles.

        Let us NOT devolve into such posts that shrink our membership, to no good purpose.
        IMHO,…

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        • litlbit2 says:

          Amen Dutch, we all just trying very hard. This is a great form where one can express the frustrations many are going through. Especially after many, many years of living under what sometimes seem to be unAmerican. Myself think McConnell should throw the case out, to let the Senate Chamber retain credibility vs the HoR, now known as The Clown Hall.

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          • Dutchman says:

            I’m of two minds; I don’t see how mulvaney or bolton hurts PDJT ‘s case, at,all.
            Because READ THE TRANSCRIPT, as PDJT says,every chance he gets, LOL.
            If his side gets to call witnesses as well, bring in the,Ukranians Rudy has deposed.
            But, if the “jury” of 100 Senators gets to vote on WHICH witnesses they will and won’t hear from, then screw that. By procedure they can screw him.
            Mitt, Murcowski, Collins, Portman can stick in the knife.
            In that case, dismiss after opening arguments.

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            • litlbit2 says:

              Agree, I am certainly for dismissal. NO Crime committed therefore why would McConnell acknowledge a continuation. IMO, he looks as silly as weird Nancy and company. Let alone the damage done to the Senate by going forward. Or Pelosi played’em.

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              • Dutchman says:

                Oh, Pelosi didn’t play ’em. McConnell IS just as “silly weird” as Nancy.
                IMHO, He and the,Republicons were ‘in’ on the coup.
                There lack of support and pushback, the chorus if “Mueller is an ‘Honorable man’ his investigation MUST continue”…..the obvious multiple betrayals of Ryan, ..
                And the fact these lifelong swamp creatures, obsessed with their own survival in the,Swamp, NEVER would have attempted the coup, unless they KNEW they had,Republicon backing.
                No way!
                If PDJT had followed the plan, and fired Mueller, etc. I am sure we would have heard/seen the,Congresdional Republicon Chorus, in a,rousing rendition of “Nobody, even the President, is above the law! This is Nixons Sat. Night massacre, all over again, we MUST Impeach!”

                And lindsey was already rehearsing in his mind, going to the,WH to tell PDJT “There,are enough votes in the Senate to convict. For sake of party/country, you must resign!”
                (Conveniently releiving any of them from voting, on the record, and in the,History books, to Impeach).
                THAT, I think was the,’Insurance plan’, a “Watergate 2.0”.

                Just as the recent Iranian foolishness was not, IMHO an attempt at a Benghazi 2.0,….
                It was going to be Iranian hostage crises, 2.0.

                Something many believed doomed Carter as a 1 term POTUS.

                And again, McConnell is Nancy in pants. Just as Dems for MANY years concealed their true nature, Republicons in Congress are,still in ‘stealth’ mode, and like the Dems are CONmunists.
                At least, thats the way I see it, but them I’m a simple guy. I don’t appreciate nuance or subtlety.

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            • Dee says:

              Trumps people are not going to be heard from.

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              • Dutchman says:

                We’ll see. McConnell is a Master of behind the scenes manipulation, so is his current biotch Lindsey. Don’t believe a word they SAY, on camera.

                Watch for how the manipulate the process, and then say “Hey, don’t blame ME, its the “will of the Senate”.

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        • barnabusduke says:

          I always assumed that was the reason for a “like” button for comments. This home belongs to Sundance. I may not agree or even strongly dis-agree with some comments here (as others are to mine). But I certainly leave the “guest list” to the owner and / or care takers of the home that I am visiting.

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          • Dutchman says:

            Well said. Actually, the “like” button concept was developed by Zuckerberg. Both sending and recieving a ‘like’releases a small dose of,Dopamine and other nuerotransmitters associated with pleasure.
            Thats why there is no ‘dislike’button, lol.
            And yeah, as a guest being respectful of the hosts wishes is a good idea, ALWAYS. 🙂

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            • zekness says:

              I have a button, I like to call trigger. I squeeze it and things stop moving.

              sometimes (bear with me on being wacky weird here), I wish there was such a reality button as my trigger in the digital world “virtual land”…it would solve many things.

              what I’ve found just as useful, is the facts button. I use facts and that usually (but not always) stops the critters from having room to move around. It only works with intellectually honest people though. So I’ve concluded that mercy kills just isn’t worth the effort.

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              • Dutchman says:

                I have SEVERAL nice trigger buttons, myself.
                And, I TRY to use the,FACT button, as,well.
                Its not only the intellectually dishonest, but those who, due to strong emotion, are in denial.

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        • nats1mom says:

          Agree, Dutchman. Agree!

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        • BD is the self-appointed comment cop, be careful is you say anything negative about cocaine mitch. lol

          Tense times to be sure, but as I have written lately, now isn’t the time for those of like minds to be divided for any reason, we may all be needed as “the coalesced deplorables.”

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        • Thinblueline says:

          Dutchman,

          And WHO are you to always question those who have contrary opinions to yours? You frequently mention debate 101, which is laughable. You do what you accuse others of doing. I don’t come on this site to debate. I give an opinion just like you. I live in the real world and have no desire nor time to debate trolls or fear mongers. I’ll call it how I see it, just like our awesome President does. If you don’t like it, too damn bad! Just sayin’…

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        • zekness says:

          ^^^^this ^^^^

          much respect for the good and wise advice offered.

          brilliant.

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        • smartyjones1 says:

          He didn’t suggest the guy leave. He asked a question connected to the stupid and endless gaslighting which at this point in time you have to be smoking crack for three days straight to think that the Senate trial is heading to removing President Trump.

          The signals have been blowing strong for weeks if not longer that McConnell will dispose of this as readily as possible. He’s indicated it LOUD and CLEAR.

          Yet, the gaslighting BS and yes, fear porn, never more appropriately applied is distilled here like Epstein running amok on Pedo Island.

          The emotionalism writ of handwringing is way out of hand.

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          • Dutchman says:

            One of the main attractions of sports and politics is,…UNCERTAINTY.
            You (the audience) never know, FOR certain, the outcome.
            I remember their was a football game, 1 minute left on the clock, team A was down 20 points.

            Everyone was leaving, cause it was a foregone conclusion, right?
            They scored 3 touchdowns, to win!

            I care not a whit what McConnell SAYS, its what he,DOES that counts.
            And, 99% of what he does is done behind closed doors, and thru manipulating the process, or by inaction rather than action.

            So, I wouldn’t leave the stands just yet, confident in the outcome of this contest.
            Am I engaging in ‘fear porn’? I think I am being realistic, given that McConnell controls the Senate with an iron fist in a velvet glove, Graham is Chairman of Judiciary, and Roberts is acting as Magistrate for this little farce.

            It ain’t over, till its over.
            And, I have as much ‘right’ to express my concerns, my opinions, as anyone else, as do you.

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        • cantcforest says:

          LIKE. WordPress aggression again.

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    • Gary says:

      Sullivan could have said no. He didn’t . Flynn is on his way to stomping van drack into the mud like an over limit duck.

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      • LOL @ “Over Limit Duck”

        Great imagery

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      • Joemama says:

        Correct. Sullivan is letting both sides state their cases and then he will decide. I’d say there is a decent chance that the DOJ prosecutor will drop the case to prevent scrutiny of their criminal behaviour.

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        • Tall Texan says:

          I am cautiously optimistic re: Sullivan. In early rounds of the Flynn saga before Sullivan, I had the feeling he was trying to say to Flynn that he (Sullivan) wasn’t going to fight Flynn’s battle, and that Flynn had to vacate his plea before Sullivan could do his part. Time will tell. I hope I am right for General Flynn’s sake and for his heroic attorney.

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          • noswamp says:

            Tall Texan, as a fellow Texan greetings from the Lone Star State! I hope you are right my friend, while I do not share your optimism, I do share your hope. Sullivan is a snake, and in my opinion he cares less about justice, just about how he looks in the mirror. Maybe, just maybe, Barr will intervene here and and Flynn will be fine. The answer of DOJ to Flynn’s brief is going to be good reading I say! I mean, how can the DOJ defend such behavior(they tried but their brief was as weak as a chicken surrounded by raccoons), and the fact that they are in technical breach of plea agreement. Anyway, let’s see. Hope springs eternal!

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      • BitterC says:

        Congrats. Yours is the 1st post on topic for this thread. Had to scroll quite a ways to find it

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      • Issy says:

        I would love to see that, but I just don’t know. I respect the point that Sullivan’s hands were tied due to the guilty plea, but I just don’t trust him. What will happen if he does allow it to be withdrawn? Does the govt. double down and come up with more charges? Does the judge dismiss the case? Either way, he would be out of it, and I think that’s all he wants.

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    • thrasher47 says:

      Whoops – picked wrong response to agree to. Withdraw my agreement.

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    • 1) Trump won’t be removed
      2) Flynn is a secondary target
      3) A pardon will be granted IF Flynn not acquitted

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    • Sharon says:

      Is that you Alex Jones ?

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      • noswamp says:

        Sharon, I wonder if Alex Jones posts on here. I assume he does. Happy to say that he woke me up. Your comment was hilarious though. Thank you. HAHA I hope Let J. P 2014 is right!

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    • ezgoer says:

      Republican Senators know if they ever remove Trump half the GOP base will abandon them and they will lose in droves in 2020 and 2022 — including Mitch who faces KY voters in November. That will keep these traitors in line though you will likely get 4 confirmed traitors to vote with the Dems on witnesses so as to allow them to rough up Trump for a couple weeks before acquitting.

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      • Issy says:

        I’m not sure of that. They are traitors to go along with anything the dems want in this impeachment, but when it comes down to the on the record vote, I think one or two may have second thoughts. They are just trying to have it both ways, and it won’t work. People will remember they dragged this farce out to hurt POTUS. President Trump will certainly remember.

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    • jello333 says:

      You really believe what you just wrote? You seriously think that if Trump is “removed” from office that things will just continue on as usual. That anyone, ANYONE will be worrying about relatively unimportant matters like “getting Flynn’s conviction upheld”? Really? Do you have ANY idea what would happen should Trump be “removed”? The Flynn matter would be WAY down on the list of anything we’d have to be worried about. I won’t spell it out, but I think you get my drift. NOTHING would be business as usual, in any way, shape, or form. This country (and the world) will CHANGE in a massive, historic way… overnight.

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      • Agreed, it will cause a tidal wave. In our Party, in the Country, in the World. The effects will be profound, on a civil war level. One point here, ANY Republican who thinks they are in some way immunized from voting against the President is either delusional or a liberal plant. They will be finished, they will never win another campaign ever again. They will be untouchable beyond their deathbeds…

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        • Thinblueline says:

          You are absolutely spot on. People have to understand that the Republican Party is now the Trump Party. He can destroy political careers with one tweet or rally.

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          • Issy says:

            There are numerous ways to destroy careers in the government. It doesn’t have to be made public or most important illegal. I’m sure Trump can think of a few. They know this, and Trump knows he needs their votes on other things too. It’s a delicate line to walk.

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      • trnathens says:

        There could be that kind of response if everything is REVEALED the way people on here want it to be. Imagine Antifa will take indictments lying down? Think any of those socialist, college-aged, living at home, young, brownshirt-NAZIs who want to “disappear” (i.e., cancel culture) anyone who dares act civil towards their “enemies” (i.e., Republicans), are going to take ANY repercussions lying down? Nope. Not a chance. This thing can go sideways for so many reasons, very, very quickly.

        Please pray to know that God is in control. Hate cannot beat Love. Truth cannot be snuffed out by Error. “Divine Love always had met, and always will meet every human need” (Mary Baker Eddy)

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    • jello333 says:

      I know I already replied to your comment… but my God, reading it again I just can’t believe what I’m reading. Your two scenarios — Trump being “removed”, and DOJ continuing to go after Flynn — are in totally different universes when it comes to significance. I mean, if something happens to Trump, WHO CARES what then happens to Flynn?! We will have far, FAR more serious matters to worry about!

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    • Joshua2415 says:

      Geez Copper, have a cookie or something. It will all work out. They are not going to toss out a guy with a 90% + approval rating with the 63 million Americans who voted from him. They are despicable, but they are not suicidal.

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    • smartyjones1 says:

      Whoever is gaslighting you should at least give you a free drink.
      The writing has been on the wall. The #ImpeachmentSham is going down, hard.

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    • Val says:

      Being “cynical” is not going to help anything.
      You either have faith or you don’t.
      You either step into the Red Sea to cross it or you stay behind. We are at a point of no return.
      Nancy Pelosi sealed their hatred for us with those golden pens. Their ridiculous performance let us know that they don’t care about us or our votes.

      Look at the President, look at people like Flynn and Sidney Powell…they don’t give up, they always find a venue to keep fighting.
      Negativity doesn’t help anybody.

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    • TexanInFL says:

      Can we please keep on topic. This isn’t about impeachment. Yet, I have to scroll past you pearl clutchers to find any relevant comments.

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  2. JohnCasper says:

    We will all dies of old age before this “judge” gets off the pot.

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  3. littleanniefannie says:

    Barr, you need to do the right thing by General Flynn. The FBI/CIA/DoJ were WRONG in their treatment of General Flynn. If you have evidence to the contrary, release it.
    While you’re at it, release the declassified docs. In case you didn’t hear UpChucky today, YOU are in the Democrazy crosshairs too. They will take your reputation through the mud. Get Durham ready and Let the Perp Walks begin.

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    • vikingmom says:

      Yeah, I am wondering about the attacks on Bill Barr lately…either they are concerned that he is getting too close and are trying to intimidate him/take him out before he is able to do any significant damage OR it’s all smoke and mirrors and a shell game to get our hopes up that he is working hard only to have him pull the football back at the last second in order to “protect the institutions”!

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      • YvonneMarie says:

        A G Barr does not fear Deep State.

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        • vikingmom says:

          But will he take the necessary steps to dismantle it or will he simply cover up the corruption like everyone else has done?

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          • smartyjones1 says:

            Bill Barr is a legal heavyweight. He’s considered one of the finest legal minds in the country. He’s feared because he holds gravitas, in spades. When he was up for AG, the Senate couldn’t even lay a glove on him.

            AG Barr publicly stated he’s allowing US Attorney John Durham to go where his investigation takes him. A rumor said he’ll let the cards fall where they may but I haven’t been able to confirm it. He’s given increased resources to Durham who has been tracking down pertinent SpyGate information around the globe.

            Gen. Flynn’s case, however, is not one where the AG will be poking his hands into as that would be the type of action the Deep State and Dems would love to use to undermine him and possibly uproot him if at all possible.

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            • vikingmom says:

              Good well reasoned, reassuring response – thank you!!

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            • Issy says:

              “Smarty” I asked this on this thread, but you might have just considered it a stupid question. Does Barr have the same authority over the Flynn case as he would others since it was brought by the Special Prosecutor or maybe just bad protocol to interfere in their case?
              In all probability, your last statement is the reason he chooses to stay uninvolved.

              I do agree, Barr has gravitas. I watched the confirmation hearing.

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        • Ray Runge says:

          AG Barr is Deep State.

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          • Don says:

            No he’s not Ray.
            Press coverage is 95% pro leftist/socialist….. They control the narrative…. No. One else….Barr does not need to give them reason to challenge him….and yes he will not allow it to all burn down… Too many closed cases depend on it……
            Look even Lev Parnas is going after Barr, on top of the usual whacko suspects who’ve already called for Barr to step down or recuse…… They are just waiting for Durham’s first indictment to go after Barr…..all of this has to wait until Nutty Nancy’s peach mints has concluded.
            Them shoes start falling. From everywhere.

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            • noswamp says:

              Don I agree with 90 percent of what you said, but unfortunately why is Barr so tight with Rosenstein, and Wray? Why give them cover?

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              • Don says:

                I don’t know. Don’t even want to guess. Rosenstein was untouchable….. Any house cleaning after Mueller roll out would have been deemed retribution … Yada yada….. “Keep your enemies closer ” maybe ? The big media machine is just waiting to pounce on Barr….. And after his Notre Dame and Federalist speeches he gave last fall…. They will be coming for him.
                He seems to me to be a Constitutionalist….. And he’s not the type to go scorched earth I would think….. We’ll know what to expect once the Peach Mint is done and Durham checks in.
                These times of government corruption remind me of a poster I saw years ago…… Two buzzards sitting on a branch…..the caption reading – “Patience my ass, I wanna kill something”…..
                Have to keep emotions in check…

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            • Issy says:

              I do believe he will do something based on evidence Durham can bring to the table. We only see a small portion of what his job entails. We have seen the worst part of the doj, the corrupt part. I want accountability, but I also understand he has a fine line to draw. Barr is not going to destroy the doj to bring it.

              Maybe, you should ask yourself, what is more important, getting through impeachment and reelecting Trump so he can accomplish even more for the country or enacting revenge on these corrupt people in the doj/cia? Is now the right time?

              “Revenge is a dish best served cold.” Trump won’t forget and while pragmatic I doubt he will let it all go. The people involved in this intel coup are finished. He is fighting on a bigger field now, the balance of power abused by the house of representatives.

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    • ezgoer says:

      AG Barr is likely a coup conspiracy protector. Please realize that.

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    • Issy says:

      The threat of impeachment against him might get Barr motivated. 🙂

      I don’t know the protocol, so if anyone could enlighten me, I would appreciate it. Barr has authority over doj prosecutions, and it would seem likely he could order the prosecutor in the Flynn case to release the material Sidney requested. It could also be so embarrassing they dare not. I wonder if there is a difference in a case the special prosecutor brought and one that originated in the doj under Barr? Does Barr have authority over it?

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  4. iPack says:

    Barr was a big disappointment so far. But then again, if he wasn’t who he is, he would’ve never been confirmed by the corrupt Senate.

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  5. freepetta says:

    Hopefully Barr realizes how General Flynn has been abused by his former defense team, the FBI, DOJ and the court!! It’s an outrage!!

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  6. iPack says:

    Barr was a total disappointment so far.

    Obviously, the Senate doesn’t confirm honest patriots.

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  7. spellno9 says:

    Free Michael Flynn!

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  8. Republicanvet91 says:

    Any opinions on whether this might be a good sign? Bad sign? No sign?

    Looking forward to your article on the latest attempt to help Comey by the NY Times:

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    • LouisianaTeaRose says:

      You notice they’re obtuse and goin’ Mamet on it….

      My take is this: who is making this happen? What is going on that they would revisit the issue? And why would they do that?

      Bits and pieces.

      Not enough to make a backstory, and probably by design.

      But this is what I know: it can’t possibly be Barr or Durham.

      I know it because the Tree says it ain’t possible.

      What could this be???

      Anyone?

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      • Proud American from Texas says:

        Lotta balls to leak a story about a leak investigation. Interesting.

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        • LouisianaTeaRose says:

          Who leaked it? Or is it disinformation? And from whom? And why?

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          • It’s “information” (dis) overload and dog whistling… that’s all the slimes does.

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            • zekness says:

              bingo…”catch and release”…NYT has operated this strategy for quite a long time.

              I trust the information about the same way I treat the WAPOST, reuters and heavily edited AP pieces: as last choice to wrap fish or cat litter lining.

              I’m not a big fan of animal cruelty.

              me: hurry up and go ..I don’t want you messing the floor again

              dog: (looking at the newspaper lining) all I have is negative thoughts.

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      • Republicanvet91 says:

        I think the most interesting part of that story is the attempt to push the BS that Jessie Liu is an aggressive Trump supporter trying to make a name for herself.

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      • felipe says:

        Who? James Comey.

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      • WhiteBoard says:

        its about positioning the brainwash of the Trump haters. they dont read or do research, they need relatively short headlines full of numbers and reasons.

        its to frame Trump as desperate and sending his pitbull Barr out to bite everyone like biden and comey etc.

        to request recusal.

        pelosi also wants witnesses denied so she can say the senate hearing was a scam AND she can send another impeachment.

        these people are not trying to WIN. they are trying to stall and block TRUMP’s LAST STAND. they have already made agreements with other countries to aid and assist once attacked. jan 20th they will start the final take. virginia.staged.

        all will hit at once… so many fires. iran china, and masked with the n korea suprise. i can only assume the calm before the storm pic was the final direction to Trump to keep them distracted and beat them at Propaganda as the team preps.

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    • Notice the focus on “years old”…classic Tommy Vietor and his Benghazi response to Brett Baier, “that was like two years ago dude.”

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    • Leaving says:

      SD tweeted about this. He classified it as a distraction.

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    • litlbit2 says:

      Great 2020 investigating, results 2040

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    • MD says:

      They mention Comey, McCabe, DWS and others and also stated their sources did not know whether a grand jury was in place or who may have testified. They seem to cover lots of bases. My guess is they think something is coming but don’t know what.

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  9. Sullivan has been looking for an off ramp so he doesn’t have to preside over a conviction in this fiasco. I think he’ll take it.

    President Trump appears to be letting this play out and would most likely step in to correct the miscarriage if there were a conviction.

    Barr’s lame excuse is probably that it’s a matter before the court and is letting it play out.

    In any event, no way in hell will this ever go to trial.

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    • Wethal says:

      I think the off ramp is to allow Flynn to withdraw the plea. Sidney Powell then renews Brady request.

      Brady material is anything that might show the defendant is not guilty. (That’s why her request for it before was denied, because Flynn had pleaded guilty and the only issue was sentencing, which doesn’t involve issues of guilt or innocence).

      Sullivan grants the Brady request and then sits back until the DOJ realizes what Powell could introduce to show bad faith, entrapment, etc.

      DOJ dismisses charges. Sullivan makes dismissal with prejudice (has the effect of preventing double jeopardy.)

      Case is out of Sullivan’s courtroom forever.

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        • trnathens says:

          I suggest that Judge Sullivan will sentence him to the maximum sentence. He gave General Flynn EVERY opportunity to withdraw his plea, and he didn’t. I am a total PDJT and Flynn supporter, but Judges don’t like allowing Withdrawal of Guilty Plea motions because it lets other defendants know they should try the same traffic, and it gums up the works. A judge will give the defendant every opportunity (in my experience) to NOT plead guilty, but once they have, it’s a whole other story.

          The reason he asked for briefs and arguments is so he can establish a very high standard of review for an appellate court. If he denies the Motion, and bases it on an interpretation of the arguments made by both sides, as well as the underlying law, and precedent of the circuit, then the standard of review is “Abuse of Discreet”. The only question the Appellate Court has is, “Did the lower court judge abuse his discretion in deciding to not allow the withdrawal?”. If the Appellate Court looks and sees that there is a record established by the lower court to show that the lower court considered arguments from both sides, and then wrote a thought-out opinion that denied the Motion based on law, reason, and precedent then they will NOT find he abused his discretion and they will affirm the ruling. It could end up in the Supreme Court, but that’s my guess as to what happens, based on Judge Sullivan’s past rulings recently.

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          • trnathens says:

            Standard of Review is: abuse of DISCRETION, not discreet, sorry (autocorrect)

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            • WES says:

              Trn:. I have said Sullivan will rule in whatever manner best benefits the deep state and that minimizes Flynn’s future options.

              Sullivan has just ruled accordingly to limit Flynn’s future legal options.

              As you say Sullivan will rule against withdrawal of the guilty plea. 100%.

              Flynn will lose in Appeals Court. 100%.

              It will go to SCOTUS. ???%

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      • Dutchman says:

        Wethal,
        Thats not a bad hypothesis, COULD go that way.
        The Prosecutors haven’t blinked, so far because all the rulings have ultimately gone their,way, so no real reason to.

        What you suggest would be a change in that regard, and might cause the Prosecutors to reverse coarse.

        I pray your hypothesis proves accurate.

        I also wonder if Nunes (FINALLY, SOMEBODY speaking out in Defence of Flynn!) will have any effect.

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      • IGiveUp says:

        Agree. But Sullivan would have missed the chance to do the very thing he supposedly dedicated his life to–the pursuit of real justice.

        My dog says: Don’t be such a sap.

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      • Ray Runge says:

        In my own ignorance, I was convinced the prosecution would agree to the terms of surrender in the previous filing by Sidney Powell. But to arrogantly deny to produce the mountain of Brady material, Sidney Powell has been forced to take the additional step to withdraw the guilty plea.

        Sullivan knows this will expose the commie coup plotters and will continue to postpone the inevitable.

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      • martyb59 says:

        Wethal, hope you are correct!

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      • Issy says:

        I pray you’re right. I just know Sullivan wants to get rid of this mangled mess.

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    • Bulldog84 says:

      Sullivan likely couldn’t care less if the case gets tried. Van Grack, on the other hand, would be ready to Epstein himself if he thought he’d have to try the case.

      I remember Sidney Powell conjecturing that Barr could be staying out of it because he is giving Van Grack the rope with which to hang himself. To that, I’d say that Sullivan has loosened the rope somewhat predictably so far.

      In sum, I completely agree that there’s no way this goes to trial.

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  10. lizajmoon says:

    anybody besides me remember sullivan giving flynn a chance to withdraw his plea once before, when flynn had his old lawyers and flynn refused? i do so hope sullivan will be gracious this time, now that we all know what (i believe ) he knew then.

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    • bessie2003 says:

      I remember that. Which is why I think that the Judge will use this as his off-ramp, sentence the General knowing full well it will be appealed – thus passing this fiasco on to another judge and out of Sullivan’s hands.

      Truly hoping I’m really, really wrong, but the way justice seems to work in this nation, without deep pockets to appeal to the highest levels, if a person is conservative or supports this President they will be held guilty until they can prove their innocence.

      Praying for the exoneration of General Flynn comes swift and sure.

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    • mortgagesforthemasses says:

      Yes, but Flynn’s counsel at the time had conflicts due to incorrect FARA they filed. I don’t think Sullivan knew that at that time. The former counsels had an interest in Flynn pleading guilty, and should have told Flynn to hire new counsel.

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      • Joemama says:

        And by now, Judge Sullivan knows this and also knows that it was his DUTY to demand that Flynn get new, non-conflicted counsel and he failed in executing that DUTY. Sullivan is a scumbag and should not be a judge. He knows that too.

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      • Issy says:

        I don’t know what the legal minds think, but to me this was a Big Deal.

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  11. Troublemaker10 says:

    It seems to me that Barr has stayed out of any leftover Mueller investigation stuff still working through the courts .

    However, if there were any time he should break with that “hands off approach” it would be over the Flynn case (and the injustice done to him).

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    • Wethal says:

      Barr is keeping hands off Mueller stuff because he wants to restore the integrity of DOJ (yes, a big challenge). He is not interfering with any final Mueller prosecutions. He let Mueller do his report, and just jumped ahead to issue his conclusions before Weissmann got his narrative out, but he never stopped Mueller or his gang because he wanted to avoid claims of favoratism.

      Barr is trying to keep off anything Mueller did because he sees any interference as damaging Durham’s investigation, which needs to have airtight allegations. “If you shoot at the king, you must kill the king.” In this case the kings are Brennan, Clapper, Comey, McCabe and Strzok. He cannot accuse this group of crimes with a wobbly case. The Deep State, the MSM, the Dems will all be after him and Durham. The facts have to be compelling.

      Unfortunately along the way, there have been casualties from the Deep State coup (Page, Caruso, Manafort, Papadopolous, Stone and Flynn). This is tragic, and irreversible. I hope Trump has pardons ready and does them at a time that will not damage his re-election.

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      • IGiveUp says:

        I hope Trump has pardons ready and does them at a time that will not damage his re-election.
        ——————————–
        In that case, yesterday would be fine.

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      • Ray Runge says:

        Apologize for Barr much?

        Mueller / Weismann were / are as dirty as a mud puddle. Let me correct your assumptions. Any deference Barr provides to Mueller and his crowd is a total affirmation for the Deep State Bureaucracy. An invitation for LawFare to further establish the USA as a legal Banana Republic.

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        • Issy says:

          How could Barr undo the Mueller investigation and prosecutions? I agree it was a Banana Republic deal, but at least he got it shut down. If you want to blame someone, how about Sessions & Rosenstein? I am not defending Barr, but to muddy the water over Muller & Weissman and their disreputable actions would have also discounted the report that absolved Trump.

          These people make deals. It’s how it works in our Banana Republic.

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    • Dutchman says:

      Actually, IIRC, Barr has intervened TWICE; Getting Maria Butima out of solitary, and KEEPING Manafort out if Rikers. Memory not clear, but he did SOMETHING regarding MB, and I THINK it was that.

      So, intervening in the administering of the PUNISHMENT portion, rather than the,TRIAL portion.

      Coarse, didn’t make any such intervention in the EPSTIEN case, I notice. “Epstien didn’t suicide” is the new “CNN sucks!”

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      • Wethal says:

        You’re right, he did interfere with those because of the egregious behavior with Butina, and because he did not want to hand Manafort over to NY state to rot in Rikers.

        He knew no one would care about these two – no Adam Schiff, no CNN or MSNBC diatribes. He just can’t do it in ongoing, high-profile cases that haven’t gone to verdict (or sentencing in Flynn’s case.

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        • Dutchman says:

          Not sure why he can’t intervene, if he knows an injustice is ocurring. Flynn is a clear injustice.
          So, Dems would critisise him for politicising DOJ? So what, they are ANYWAY.
          We’ll see what happens.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      However much we’d like Barr to prove himself the hammer and save Flynn from unjust prosecution and jail, these “side” DOJ Coup cases are toxic politically.

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  12. Leaving says:

    I wonder if the prosecution will withdraw charges in their response.

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  13. KMD says:

    Just curious…
    To those convinced Gen. Flynn was headed to jail because Judge Sullivan, and everyone in the entire DOJ, is corrupt, how are you preparing your crow for supper?

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  14. Justin Green says:

    Deep State is certainly happy to have this drag out. After all, they’re on the taxpayers’ time.

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  15. samwise163 says:

    Burn it down Sidney! Burn the whole frame job down to the ground! Expose it all!
    Go Sidney! Prayers to you, your team, and General Flynn.

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  16. Skidroe says:

    I think President Trump is Superman!

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  17. IGiveUp says:

    Can’t tell at this point which judge has more integrity and character, Roberts or Sullivan.

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  18. Spooky says:

    The take away for me is that it is BILL BARR’S DOJ that is doing this to Flynn. That tells you everything you need to know about Barr’s relationship to the swamp. As a side note one of Trumps biggest mistakes was not firing every single Federal prosecutor on day one like Slick Willie did. That has really come back to haunt him.

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    • GTOGUY says:

      I disagree. Barr cannot get involved in this yet. He has to let it play out or it will look like a “fix” and a partisan action.

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      • Ray Runge says:

        Bagpipes in town square are preferable to justice in the court room. Tell me Bill Barr has acted in a different fashion.

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      • noswamp says:

        “I disagree. Barr cannot get involved in this yet. He has to let it play out or it will look like a “fix” and a partisan action.”
        Good point. But I thought that way about Sessions until it became too obvious. At least with Barr we do have the anti-Barr: Durham and his criminal investigation. LATE SPRING BARR may, just may deliver then.

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    • smartyjones1 says:

      Case was baked long before AG Barr came on the scene. He hasn’t even been on the job a year I don’t believe. The whining is non-stop. You can’t fix a corrupt town like DC let alone an institution the size of the DOJ overnight.

      People are so conclusive about demanding everything, now, now, now!
      Fire this building, that building, fire them all.

      They don’t even have enough Never Trumpers to fill all the jobs. President Trump was taken aback by how many positions he had to fill when he got to DC. A lot of them have been working against him in case you hadn’t noticed.

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  19. Loggerman says:

    So just wondering why Sydney didn’t get him to withdrawal the plea months ago?

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    • Tall Texan says:

      She was playing her best tactical hand at the time. She didn’t want to give up the limited protection afforded by the plea until her client was forced to.

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    • Bogeyfree says:

      I think they were hoping that her filings late last year would force the DOJ to have to expose the exculpatory evidence she said they withheld and thus it would show this was always a frame job.

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  20. mopar2016 says:

    Judge Sullivan is the one that should be looking at jail time.
    Collyer, Boasberg, Contreras, and a lot of other judges too, they’re the real crooks.

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  21. California Joe says:

    Flynn will stall the trial until after the election and President Trump will pardon him.

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  22. TradeBait says:

    Troll night on the Last Refuge. Must be bored.

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  23. Bill says:

    Hey Copper Top:

    With deep regret, I agree with you. The Swamp will prevail.

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  24. GTOGUY says:

    Sullivan is no fool. He is not like some of the other Obama judges. He does not want to be overturned on appeal. His safest bet is to allow Flynn to withdraw his plea and go have a trial.

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  25. sarasotosfan says:

    Barr can not touch this. He must make the conspirators play out their roles.

    Barr has a full plate and interrupting this farce is not the way he should play this.

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    • TarsTarkas says:

      I am forced to agree. He does anything it will be considered obstruction & Pelosi will try to impeach him. Let Powell do her job, I’m sure she’s got a plan for when they come back for resentencing (See Don’s comment below which makes sense). Van Grack does not want discovery, Powell wants discovery, Sullivan wants out.

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  26. Don says:

    Look these people are not idiots……they are corrupt- but not stupid. The RESENTENCING TO 6 MONTHS REQUEST WAS INTENTIONAL on the governments part to make it appear they were additionally pissed at Flynn… And came up with some cockamamie pearl clutching excuse for prison time. The government obviously knew what team Flynn’s response strategy was going to be pursuant to the plea agreement. Color no one surprised.
    .
    Van Grack got the additional smearing of Flynn for all he could get, looking tough in the process and still allow the judge to get out of a messy plea jam- striking down the govt. prison time request (which Sullivan probably would have any way to make this abortion go away quietly) and in the process giving team Flynn a false “win”- slap a fine, suspend sentence and gavel this away quietly never to be spoken about again. DOJ reprimands…. BFD…. Everyone wins…… With Bill Barr’s approval.
    Moral of the story: Don’t plead guilty if you’re not, even if the chance to change your mind later allows.

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    • TarsTarkas says:

      Flynn did not have the financial resources to withstand the DOJ, plus his legal team was effectively part of the prosecution. He’s damned lucky the Weissman team got Sullivan to keep postponing the sentencing date forever to give Flynn a chance to fire his lawyers.

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      • Don says:

        Yeah I get that….. And don’t want to come off like an armchair QB…… Flynn wasn’t destitute though (Turkey did give him representation money)- and Powell isn’t pro bono – plus there are groups like ACLJ….. Heck even GO-fund- me can be a solution …. I woulda chipped in…..
        I think going after his son was probably the most impacting leverage they had though…. And after all the initial bargain of no jail time would seem reasonable to accept, albeit you still know you’re being railroaded.
        Still something is missing in all this. Flynn was a guy who basically stands up to Obama…..gets fired because of it and was not willing to go along to get along in that dysfunction. There’s a reason for this Flynn episode that hasn’t come to the surface yet.

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      • Issy says:

        Don’t forget, he originally got Strozk’s buddy, Rudy. I will always wonder why he was recused? Was it the Strzok/Page text?

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  27. Bulldog84 says:

    “It will be interesting to watch how the Bill Barr DOJ responds to Flynn’s request to withdraw his guilty plea….”

    Prosecutor Van Grack has Judge Sullivan to help prevent him from hanging himself. Why in the world would Bill Barr want to stick his neck out to rescue this corrupt prosecutor, and then face the accusation that he interfered for political reasons? Better to let the judicial process run its full course. Only then, if someone in the executive branch is going to have to stick his neck out to save Gen. Flynn, it will have to be PDJT.

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  28. trialbytruth says:

    Not a lawyer

    Can the prosecution drop the.case at this time.

    Something along the lines that …..

    We regret General Flynn feels that undo pressure was usednto extract a guilty plea from him. We will accept his withdrawal of his guilty plea without further comment.

    General Flynn has had long service to his country, prosecution feels that continuation of this prosecution will drain resources better used elsewhere.

    I know that if I was them that’s the door I would take.

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    • Bulldog84 says:

      The prosecution can seek to drop the case at any time. However, at this point they would need the judge’s approval, which they would undoubtedly get, though with an accompanying butt-spanking.

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  29. MNBV says:

    “I pled guilty because they threatened my son.”
    Is not something the DoJ want to explored in Appeal Court or higher. And the Brady material can’t stay hidden forever.
    Sidney will run this all the way and it will inevitably be overturned.
    The Institutions have so far been able to rely on Barr as alumnae.

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  30. Appleman says:

    My expectation is they will drop charges after impeachment is over. They don’t want good news during the trial. They don’t want anyone looking at the filings in this case during the trial. String it out a couple of months and then let it go.

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  31. bluenova1971 says:

    I didn’t see anyone speak to this…but why did Flynn’s motion go unopposed by DOJ?

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    • Don says:

      Re read the courts docket above…. They have until Feb 5th to respond…. Then to hearing….

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      • bluenova1971 says:

        My question is why Van Greck did not object to a further delay?

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        • Don says:

          He can’t object the motion – he can object- and will- in the governments response – and again at the hearing….
          Only the Judge – the Court can dismiss motions out of hand…. not the prosecution… (yet anyways)

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    • MNBV says:

      How do you make a man plead guilty? It smells of compulsory plea bargains.
      Even the DoJ, which generally ignores any public shock, will find it hard to stop a man proclaiming his innocence.

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      • zekness says:

        How? the answer is not very appealing to the sensibilities to a normal moral person, but a prosecutor can deliver absolute terror and threats that go much further than simply breaking financial means for a defendant (although that is almost always going to be a very immediate implied threat…even the defense counsel will advise a client to this reality).

        It’s quite extraordinary what has happened to Flynn though.. It’s a very high profile political case and has taken it’s own stratospheric flight well beyond even the illusion of fair justice. There is an existing image and reputational dimension the FBI has decided to argue in this case…and that means every single dirty trick and some novel and unimagined prior, have been given fuel to pursue a decidedly unfair and mistreatment of this person…a decorated combat ribboned Military Professional Officer who made the serious mistake of not properly filling out some paperwork about his previous business dealings with a foreign government AND being tricked and lied to with a phoney FBI meeting that was really just a ruse to entrap him into making a false statement. (we know NOW that was not actually the case too…information now indicates from persons who WERE present in that interview that he was not making a knowingly false statement at all…and there are so many other irregularities too many to count with this entire sham indictment)

        I pray every single day for General Flynn and his Counsel. I recognize the corrupt powerful adversaries that have made it their purpose to totally EFF him over.

        General Flynn deserves better. If this current state of play is allowed unchallenged, this spells real trouble for anyone the FBI decides is a worthy target. (I compare it to how the DIMS have now weaponized the impeachment process…the Flynn case has that same risk)

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        • MNBV says:

          Sorry, I didn’t put that clearly.
          I can understand in the past how Flynn was coerced.
          My point is about NOW, how can a man who NOW pleads innocent be able to be deemed to have pled guilty when the corrupt reasons for that guilty plea are clear?

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      • bluenova1971 says:

        It never stopped DOJ in the past.

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  32. Proud American from Texas says:

    I don’t know what happened to my prior post. Anyway, here’s my opinion on Sullivan’s move.
    He will allow Gen. Flynn to withdraw his guilty plea for lying to the FBI.
    DoJ can take it to trial. Nunes has already said the FBI told him and others that Flynn didn’t lie.
    That will have to be corroborated or disputed. Enter Strzok and Pientka to testify. Get yer popcorn for that.
    The prosecutor may go after FARA violations against Sr. and Junior Flynn, but Flynn’s partner already beat that rap. Is Van Grack arrogant enough to want to try and convict, after they lost the partners case?
    I think Sullivan likes to watch chess matches. Seems like Flynn and Co. have DoJ in check and a couple moves away from checkmate. DoJ resigns the game. General Flynn set free.
    Just my opinion (and hope), but I could be wrong.

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  33. noswamp says:

    Proud American from Texas, greetings from your fellow Texan: NO SWAMP.

    From your mouth to god’s ears, I hope you are correct my friend. Your post makes alot of sense. I am not that positive about Sullivan, Sullivan is swamp. He will do no favors to Flynn. Sullivan knows Barr will not intervene. Sullivan may act “fair” for appeal purposes , but make no mistake, his granting a continuance for briefings on the withdrawal motion means nothing positive or negative. Sullivan could care less about justice with respect to Flynn at least.

    And when he rules against Flynn he will say in his order: “I asked Flynn if he wanted to withdraw his guilty plea on this date, he said no, I asked if he wanted to withdraw his guilty plea on this date, defendant said no. ” ” Now it is too late, DOJ’s breach is not material”. (Not material in Sullivan’s opinion at least). And there ya go!

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    • WES says:

      Noswamp:. Sullivan ruled what was in the deep state’s best interest and that limits Flynn’s future legal options. End of story. Sullivan is 100% swamp.

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    • Proud American from Texas says:

      You may be right about Sullivan, but prosecutors didn’t argue against the continuance. I think they are signalling they can see the writing on the wall. Sullivan probably doesn’t like the prosecutor any more or less than he likes Flynn and Sydney.
      If he allows the withdrawal of the plea, he puts the onus on prosecutors to make their case at trial. If Nunes is correct, Van Grack will figure out his options are all bad and drops the charges. Flynn wins and Barr doesn’t have to get involved. Sullivan appears as being wise and fair. Lots of things remain “secret”, so deep state is mollified. Van Grack gets treatment for the bus tire marks on his back and everyone lives happily ever after.
      And then Gen Flynn can get even…

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  34. Don says:

    You know what…..I bet you that decision to to slap Flynn with the full 6 months came from the top. Yep, From that deep stater s/ Bob Barr…… “Flynn’s violating the spirit of his agreement… Brady, 302s yada, yada….were gonna show him – 6 long months of hard labor”…..
    They are extraordinary circumstances that delivered Flynn to his guilty plea, but he’s already been convicted by the court. Case closed. retry the case? precedent can’t allow for it… Double jeopardy ramifications….?
    The did this to give everyone an out…..except the Government….. Flynn starts his sentence and THEN it’s Habeus Corpus time…… That’s why Van Grack probably made the deal with no jail time….is there a hefty fine involved? Flynn not really that bad off….. Out some money and his reputation tattered…. But is the punishment in the original plea deal really that harsh? No…. And intentionally so….. But I’m pretty sure once Flynn is a prisoner…. habeus Corpus is a path he take to clear his name without further interference, which makes sense the govt. Would not want the potential for further exposure…… At that time, the judge would have no choice but to honor a habeus hearing…. And with a good chance to reopen the case to expose the corruption, and his innocence…..
    So is Ms. Powells reaction to withdraw the plea due to the sentencing legit, or just head fake ?knowing theres a pretty good certainty the judge won’t re-plea the case…. Oh there will be outrage in conservative talk, but this will never make the 6 O’clock news in an honest way..ever……And if anything, the judge can just say no – and make the government stick to its bargain and honor the original no jail time sentencing recommendation…. But why would team Flynn pass on the possible chance of going Habeus? If Barr really wanted Van Grack to face the music….. Why wouldn’t team Flynn go along with it?
    What am I missing in all this?

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    • bluenova1971 says:

      “What am I missing in all this?”

      Maybe the proper definition of habeas corpus.

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      • Don says:

        SO are you saying there isn’t any post-conviction strategy available to Flynn in the event “new” evidence of misconduct were to come to light a few months into his jail time ?
        (And yes proper definition not understood…..no doubt…my legal experience is mostly tee vee…. though including a couple of seasons of “Suits” *)
        .
        But there is no way in my limited view I can see the judge will allow a plea withdrawal here. How does that NOT open a Pandora’s box regarding precedent ?
        So that for me that is not in question. So then why all the jockeying over withdrawal? Not happening…Public opinion ?… setting up for a possible appeal? Can you even appeal your own guilty plea – one that originally called for no jail time- maybe a slap on the wrist fine at sentencing?
        I can’t square the idea of the DOJ insisting on a maximum sentences of 6 months ? Big deal… Flynn would need longer than that to compile/write his book……
        Who really pushed for asking for max prison time? Why?

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    • WES says:

      Don:. I think what you are missing is Sullivan is setting up Flynn so he can not succeed if he appeals Sullivan’s denial to withdraw his guilty plea in Appeals Court.

      Sullivan wants to limit Flynn’s future legal options. That is why he is doing this!

      This was explained above in better legal detail by a treeper. P.S. Sorry I forgot his name.

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      • Beau Geste says:

        Yes, sullivan can, in his “discretion”, refuse General Flynn’s guilty plea withdrawal motion. sullivan can then sentence Geneal Flynn to less than 6 months, claiming not to follow the first, or second DOJ recommendation. Then the coup perps and NYT and washington post can claim sullivan is a good guy for imposing a lesser sentence than DOJ recommended.

        Honest citizens can do nothing…

        Except that is not completely not true. There is an important consequence to the DOJ/FBI earning a deserved reputation for dishonesty, extortion and corruption. Honest citizens can vow to never vote “guilty” if called to jury duty in any case prosecuted by the DOJ/FBI. For the honest reason that the DOJ/FBI is crooked, hides information, lies to judges, and cannot be trusted to apply the law and justice equally. What the FBI/DOJ present to the courts and juries cannot be trusted. Their decisions about who to prosecute, and who to NOT prosecute have also proven their refusal and denial of equal justice under the law, thereby further earning distrust.

        It is easy to say “no”, even when pressed by other jurors who may not understand how crooked, sneaky, extortionate and dishonest the FBI/DOJ have proven to be, in what they do, who they prosecute, who they refuse to prosecute for worse behavior, who they assault in the middle of the night with 20 armed agents with CNN filming. Just say “no”.

        When the FBI/DOJ repeatedly lose cases because of justifiably earned complete lack of trust that they are capable of honest prosecution, if there are any FBI/DOJ agents who are honest, they might whistleblow to get rid of the crooks and liars.

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        • Beau Geste says:

          too many “nots”

          The Founders knew government can be crooked. That is why jury trials are required. Citizens can say “no” to crooked government.

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    • Joemama says:

      Flynn had to sell his house to pay legal fees. “He is not that bad off”????? Whisky Tango Foxtrot!

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  35. Reitired IG says:

    So thankful CTH and Sundance for posting the smiling faces of both of these Humans, Flynn and Sullivan as a prelude to the court filling documents, etal.
    Not sure if I can “digest” this “character” Van Grack. Something “smells” as my dear old Dad used to say/yell at my Mom. How is it that a person in this day and age not quite get it that every email sent is there on the record for infinity? Oh yeah, and well duh, if the masters of the internet universe allow us to see them.
    I for one am VERY RELIEVED that General Flynn has the best legal representation that I know of. Have been reading Sidney Powell/s book “Licensed to Lie” on and off again as I can only take so much stomach churning due the bile that rises up in me when I do read her book.
    Have a bookshelf long and wide that I felt the need to hide from my family during their holiday visit. I am a coward when it comes to family and politics. Just saving myself from additional grief. Hope y’awl don’t mind if I take a vacation from commenting here. Can’t take the feeling of having the need to barf every time I see the words Pelosi and/or Impeachment.
    Best to all.

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  36. TreeperFan says:

    Pray for general Flynn, treepers who want to donate to his legal defense fund can do so at https://mikeflynndefensefund.org/contribute/

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  37. All of this simply demonstrates the profound level of interlocked conspiracy that the Deep State will go to, in their penultimate objective to “Get Donald Trump.” The extraordinary depth of lies. The stubbornly-pursued determination to throw a battle-decorated United States Army General into prison, entirely on the basis of lies, strictly to protect those lies.

    And, it also demonstrates the need to hire an attorney who … even though she is female … has cojones.

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  38. Mortimer says:

    Most know that in his desperation Flynn hired Leftist hack lawyers and they sold him down the river. Sidney can only do so much this late in the game. I doubt Sullivan grants the plea reversal because it involves re-litigating the case.

    Withdrawing the plea due to the DOJ failing to honor THEIR end is mostly offset by their claim that Flynn failed to honor his end. I don’t agree with that … but it’s what the judge is likely to see it as … bickering and a toss up.

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    • Don says:

      Mort- Judge can tell DOJ to pound sand- as far as I know- he sets the sentencing- DOJ only recommends…..He can either agree with DOJ- doubtful- or he makes Govt live up to there deal- or splits the difference with three months…. Its just theatre… unless there is a point to it….
      If the government’s goal at this point is to make it all go away quietly…. why stir the pot?
      Why keep it in the news?

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