U.S. Attorney John Durham Does Not Agree With IG Horowitz Conclusions…

U.S. Attorney John Durham is currently doing a criminal investigation into how the intelligence community, CIA, ODNI and DOJ/FBI originated the investigation of candidate Donald Trump.  U.S. Attorney Durham does not agree with the conclusions presented by Inspector General Horowitz:

“I have the utmost respect for the mission of the Office of Inspector General and the comprehensive work that went into the report prepared by Mr. Horowitz and his staff. However, our investigation is not limited to developing information from within component parts of the Justice Department.

Our investigation has included developing information from other persons and entities, both in the U.S. and outside of the U.S. Based on the evidence collected to date, and while our investigation is ongoing, last month we advised the Inspector General that we do not agree with some of the report’s conclusions as to predication and how the FBI case was opened.”(link)

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300 Responses to U.S. Attorney John Durham Does Not Agree With IG Horowitz Conclusions…

  1. fanbeav says:

    Then we better see indictments of everyone involved! We have waited long enough!

    Liked by 16 people

    • Dan Everest says:

      I have been saying that the Durham report is what matters and not the Horowitz report. If the Durham report doesn’t lead to indictments…it is over…….and we are screwed. if indictments then we have hope. COME ON DURHAM GET THE REPORT FINISHED!!!

      Liked by 12 people

      • The FISA Court judges bear some responsibility for this coup plot by not using due diligence in approving warrants for surveillance on a political campaign. John Roberts better take some action on this, too. Heads need to roll!

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      • luke says:

        Well to put it in perspective we’re not screwed exactly. It just shows we’re still way outnumbered as of today. Screwed was HRC winning in 2016 and filling vacancies in the courts. Trust and believe she would have been far more effective and devastating than lazy ass Obama. Heard people complain extensively about Wray and PT picking him for Comey’s replacement. I would have to say at that time Wray was the best PT could get through the Senate. Hell i think they even blocked his recess appointments.

        No we’re not screwed friend; I would even venture to say we’re winning. We’re winning the optics war with economic numbers and real wage growth the middle class has not seen in a long time. We’re winning over hearts and minds of people of color not by pandering to them but by showing them they can win in America without govt’s help. What we’ve accomplished in 3 short years under the PDT leadership will go further than any perp walk of Comey, Orh, Strozk, and McCabe tho I wouldn’t rule that out; these are amazing times.

        Bu

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      • mopar2016 says:

        IMO Horowitz has to whitewash this stuff and act all disappointed that things weren’t done properly. His owners, handlers, current and former coworkers know it too.
        So I expect Horowitz to protect the status quo.

        I don’t think Durham sees it that way.
        https://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-news-john-durham-investigates-the-investigators-20191126-20191204-2psplwx7dfhrdi4wx5qoxdnh5i-story.html

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        • matthewpmusson says:

          The IG does not have any way to compel people to tell the Truth. If they tell him there was no political bias and they never wrote any words to that effect, he has to say he did not find any political bias. But, that is just an absence of truth.

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      • L4grasshopper says:

        There will be no “Durham Report”. He will either indict, or he will not.

        Liked by 6 people

        • Actually if you read the statement from Durham carefully you’ll understand a report will be required. Durham states the predication for Crossfire Hurricane is not what the IG has laid out – this will require a report to explain (with evidence) to show why CH wasn’t started based on FFG’s (Downer) tip off. Going by Durham’s statement it will involve people outside the purview of the DOJ OIG.

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      • paulapatriot says:

        There’s not going to be a Durham report!

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      • Zippy says:

        “If the Durham report doesn’t lead to indictments…it is over…….and we are screwed.”

        Nah, it isn’t over until AFTER a second term for Trump where, hopefully, no longer having to worry about getting reelected he can SERIOUSLY kick some ass. That possible 2nd term is why the Deep State has panicked and is willing for the first time in history to so clearly expose themselves in their efforts to make sure that doesn’t happen.

        If people at high levels are not prosecuted AND Trump isn’t reelected then it IS truly over.

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      • John-Y128 says:

        I hope he is feeling the pressure of time, this can’t go on past Nov 2020. Durham isn’t really doing a report, which is a good thing, none of the reports has done any good, he should be able to just come out with indictments if he’s got the evidence. It’s going to be the bit players, far too much water has gone under the bridge to hold Comey and Brennan accountable.

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        • Oh? Is there a statute of limitations on Treason?

          No. No there is not. Fraud, embezzlement, War crimes, Kidnapping, (think human trafficking!) and Treason do not have statutes of limitations.

          There is no limit to the amount of water that passes underneath some bridges.

          Buckle up folks, this ride has but barely even begun. I’m in for the long haul.

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      • Pa Hermit says:

        Need to see something with teeth! No room for the hum job we’ve been fed!

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  2. mallardcove says:

    The problem is that if(Big IF) Durham ends up issuing indictments, the left will just claim it is politically motivated because “the IG said there was no bias!”

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    • Niagara Frontier says:

      It’s already being done. There is no need for the left to wait for the actual release of the Durham report to peg Durham’s results as politically motivated and therefore suspect.

      Liked by 3 people

    • Tazio Nuvolari says:

      Any indictments won’t be for bias, they will be for actual crimes.

      Liked by 14 people

    • Brian Baker says:

      Let them say it.
      That’s what they’re going to say no matter what.
      That was going to be their defense all along.
      There need to be indictments, and the trials need to be outside of the beltway.

      Liked by 13 people

      • Boknows says:

        Exactly Brian,

        They can say it all they want. There is one response which tops all…

        …You’re innocent until proven guilty, so let the jury decide.

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      • Jederman says:

        Give them a few minutes. clinton or one of the other Leftys will claim Durham is a RU asset.

        Smearing is all the dems have left. It’s a no brainer. With an obedient and fundamentally corrupt msm go the easy route.

        Coordinate your smears, no mater how insane, childish or slanderous (clinton/gabbard) with the poodles in media for instant free broadcast and go home for the day.

        It’s been too easy for the dims for too long. Their product (even with the “help” of the expensive outside legal support, at taxpayer expense) is flimsy, sloppy and most importantly, unconvincing.

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      • The Boss says:

        Don’t forget, Durham is a racist too. s/o

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    • Trump Train says:

      That’s not really a problem. The liberal dcom filth has no credibility.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Just Some Guy says:

      Absolutely 100% correct. Horowitz game the left the talking points they needed, including the official “authoritative” conclusion they want, even as he buried loads of damaging information in the details.

      Same old shit, different day.

      Liked by 4 people

    • Gary says:

      Bias isn’t against the law. And evidence is a strong reply to Democrat spin.

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    • luke says:

      Lol they’re always going to do that fellers. Leftists lie and manipulate. It’s like that damn Geico commercial “It’s what they do”

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    • MACAULAY says:

      Horrowitz has found sufficient facts for Fraud on the Court, and since the applications were signed under oath—for Perjury. That’s on the FISA part.

      The predicate for opening the investigation to begin with is established by evidence outside Horowitz’s purview. MIFSUD is the key there.

      I think indictments will come, the question is when. I have grown old following this Coup…and do wonder a bit if I am a fool being played by the Deep State. Would Barr and Dunham have said the things they said today just to fool a poor old Deplorable like me for another few months?

      Possible, but I choose not to think Washington is that corrupt. Lord help us if so.

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    • ms doodlebug says:

      IG Horowitz’s job is identify FBI failures and suggest what can be done to prevent such failures in the future. U.S. Attorney Durham’s job is to indict, present evidence and prosecute crimes identified in criminal investigations.

      Even democrats know the difference in making suggestions and prosecuting crimes.

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    • Tl Howard says:

      Consider that there are other reasons for criminal behavior OTHER than bias: greed, for instance. Pay offs. Pay offs in the form of consideration for another job, pay offs in money.

      Then, there’s the motive of FEAR: fear of someone with a lot of power telling you what to do OR ELSE.

      I actually believe many of these folks hated the idea of Trump as POTUS, these people knew the trouble they could be in IF a long shot came in so I doubt they undertook this cavalierly. Something made them undertake it and it might have been fear superiors, fear for their careers. AFter all, all of them knew of the power of Hillary to damage folks. Now, Obama was also someone to fear

      So, it doesn’t have to be political bias made them consciously decide this was important to them to do.

      Horowitz wasn’t “going there.”

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      • ann says:

        Individuals who are not prepared to deal with fear should not accept or qualify for posts that require high level clearances or that hold authority & responsibility for nat sec, intell, counterintell, or fed law enforcement in general.

        I found Comey’s admission that he buckled to Lynch jaw dropping, And since then, in.reading the CONgress transcripts of staffers, observations of conduct, I AM a HORRIFIED and ANGRY at the level of incompetence, weakness and overpersonalization the Bureau & DoJ find acceptable .

        Ex Yates, who inserted herself into the WH, and gave permission to the Bureau
        . She disrupted the transition wo giving it a second thought, That is not AG material

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    • Who cares what the insane “left” says anymore? Who ever cared in teh first place? LMAO!

      Screw the “left” and the whores they rode in on…

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  3. lawton says:

    For him to release a statement that strong I think he already has the goods on what happened with Mifsud etc. That is interesting also if true that the IG said the CIA didn’t send anything to the FBI to start Crossfire Hurricane that it was just that Downer nonsense I guess.

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  4. Linus in W.PA. says:

    And here comes Durham!!!

    Yes, we needed this on top of the Conclusions section of the IG Report.

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  5. Bill says:

    Please be our white (knight) hat, Mr Durham. Save the republic.

    Liked by 12 people

  6. Patience says:

    Okay.
    So….., who’s right?

    Durham has the upper hand. No ?

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    • fanbeav says:

      Horowitz is only FBI/DOJ….he can’t conclude anything about CIA and we know they were also involved among other IC departments.

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    • Wethal says:

      “Wonderful thing, a subpeony.”

      Wilfred Brimley in “Absence of Malie.”

      (And the ability to fly around the world to get more evidence helps, too. He’s got Misfud’s cellphones, which is amazing.)

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      • willthesuevi says:

        That is one of my favorite movie scenes. Loads up with Copenhagen right before he proceeds to eviscerate the room, especially that feckless prosecutor. That prosecutor, BTW, reminds me sooo much of A. Weissmann.

        Wilford Brimley is a real cowboy.

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  7. DJ Snyder says:

    Barr may be Bondo, but Durham says ‘screw you IG, you’re wrong, and I’m going to prove it.’

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  8. Ralph says:

    Excellent! This means Durham is the real deal, is actually investigating and not performing a white wash.

    Liked by 4 people

  9. Waymore says:

    Durham’s statement, biggest news of the day.

    Liked by 13 people

    • doofusdawg says:

      Second biggest news of the day is that Horowitz is now a fact witness for the Durham trials… at least on the defense side. Let’s see if he is as ambiguous under oath.

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  10. 6x47 says:

    That’s nice. Any indictments you can tell us about. Mr. Durham? Or do you plan to wait until after the Democrats do maximum irreversible damage to the Republic?

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  11. dufrst says:

    The question I have is when should we spect the Durham report? After the 2020 election? How long does this take to investigate?

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    • DJ Snyder says:

      There is no ‘Durham report’. There will be indictments… or not. (This recent statement makes me bet on the former.)

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      • Linus in W.PA. says:

        Yes!

        As I’ve been saying to Sundance and others here, Barr and Durham don’t need to make statements (releases and speeches) where they indicate they think crimes were committed.

        They just don’t have to do it, and yet THEY DO!!!

        Why make the statement if you’re going to bury something??

        Barr even gives a little wiggle room saying that (paraphrasing)…OK, so just maybe the first FISA was predicated…MAYBE… but when the surveillance kept generating exculpatory information….then it should have ended right there…..not continue three more times or more.

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        • Linus in W.PA. says:

          Quite frankly, we don’t know why Barr is heaping so much praise on Wray. He’s done it before too.

          There’s obviously a reason for it, and we obviously don’t know what it is.

          Why didn’t Barr praise anyone else in his letter.

          His praising of Wray was so deliberate….and a bit over the top in my book.

          All the words in Barr and Durham’s releases were carefully crafted.

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    • Rick says:

      If he is holding out until after the election, then they can “decline to prosecute” again.

      Liked by 2 people

  12. ajlfour says:

    “Our investigation has included developing information from other persons and entities, both in the U.S. and outside of the U.S.”

    Sounds like John Durham not only has evidence of the originated ‘Insurance Plan’ transactions, he also has the receipts.

    Liked by 5 people

    • dilonsfo says:

      Hope he didn’t give the evidence to the FBI or it will end up in the “Damn, it was here yesterday….wonder what happened to it?” missing evidence box along with the Clinton emails, computers and Jimmy Hoffa’s body.

      Liked by 3 people

      • TarsTarkas says:

        The book ‘I heard you paint houses’ by Charles Brandt which has been turned into a move gives a pretty plausible account of the fate of Jimmy Hoffa.

        Liked by 2 people

        • The Devilbat says:

          I think he became a pillar of society. No, that’s not right. He became a pillar of a bridge or at least a part of it along with several hundred tons of concrete and rebar.

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        • Tl Howard says:

          Yes, I am reminded of the “Keep it Simple, Stupid” admonition as DeNiro’s character, having re-told how Hoffa died and how the body was disposed of said, “It really wasn’t any more complicated than that” (or words to that effect). According to him, the body was taken to an incinerator and burned. Cremation is keeping it simple rather than all those stories of transport to what is now the Meadowlands of Jersey with a body in a drum buried there.

          Occam’s Razor strikes again.

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    • Durham also points out that he discussed what he had found with Horowitz………which does make me wonder if they are outing Horowitz as deep state.

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  13. Jury Nullification says:

    Unless current and former elected office holders are included in the indictments, we know that Durham didn’t go far enough.

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  14. cdor1 says:

    That was pretty strong, as far as “Government speak” goes, from Durham. It makes me think he’s already got his hands wrapped around some people’s body parts. We shall see. I’ve been waiting for some form of actual undeniable, be it from the left or the right, admission of guilt for so long that it has made me numb to all the chest-thumping.

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  15. Linus in W.PA. says:

    Durham’s statement was timed with the release of the OIG Report, same as Barr’s statement.

    When did we ever see a US Attorney or AG/DAG/AAG issue a statment within an hour of an OIG Report release? We haven’t.

    Short of Horowitz having found someone to admit what they were doing, we knew this is all he could come up with.

    As such, the timed statements by Barr and Durham give me a warm happy feeling deep down inside!!!!

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    • gda53 says:

      Me too Linus! I said in a number of posts on the weekend that I would know that indictments were truly coming ONLY if there were coordination between the 3 amigos.

      I was hoping for immediate gratification (sigh) but this is most definitely the next best thing.

      ristvan says Brennan, Clapper and Comey can all expect indictments.

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  16. flatlandgoober says:

    A US Attorney talking in public about an investigation in progress? Isn’t that very unusual?

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    • Linus in W.PA. says:

      Probably, unless he’s real close to letting some indictments fly.

      As we know from history, Durham doesn’t leak. So why drop this bomb today??

      And why do Barr and Durham each give a statement?

      ‘Cause me thinks it’s debut time for Durham.

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    • The Boss says:

      Posted on another thread. Back by popular demand 🙂
      ——–
      The beginning of Durham’s last sentence leading up to “…last month we advised the [IG]…” is killer.

      For one thing, you have to wonder what was collected since last month – like from the Ukranians for instance?

      For another thing, notice “our investigation” instead of “my investigation”? Who’s helping besides Nora Dannehy? (see link below)

      https://www.law.com/ctlawtribune/2019/03/18/former-u-s-attorney-nora-dannehy-returns-to-office-to-serve-as-counsel/

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    • willthesuevi says:

      flatandgoober,
      Yes, it is unusual.

      Barr & Durham both met with Horowitz a month ago and gave him some knowledge about the initiation of the FISA abuse. Arrogantly, Horowitz chose to ignore their input and went full speed ahead to embarrass himself. Barr and Durham chose to run it up his backside. My guess is they expected what Horowitz did and prepared accordingly.

      Of course the embarrassment will only occur IF, and only IF, Durham recommends prosecutions and Barr moves forward with such. Otherwise, it is only legal theater.

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  17. Of course both Mr. Durham’s scope and his purpose are different. We should not be terribly surprised, nor alarmed, that there are differences of opinion … “Do tell us more, Mr. Durham …”

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    • Hawkward says:

      Not having read the OIG report yet, I’m guessing that he is essentially saying that the FBI launched the investigation based on intelligence reports (Brennan’s letter), and that taken at face value that was an adequate predication. The FBI can hide behind that in terms of opening the investigation (but obviously not for what happened during it).

      Durham is looking at the overall picture and knows that the predicate for the investigation was fabricated.

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  18. Perot Conservative says:

    AG Barr knew this before he stepped into the job.

    OIG = slow walking the White Wash.

    OIG as bad as the FBI, DOJ & ONA?

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  19. Boknows says:

    Durham is truly our last hope of reclaiming this country from the swamp.

    Laws were broken. Leaders of political parties were involved.

    Mr. Durham, stay safe and do what is right.

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    • RJ says:

      Attorney Durham, your room is ready…yes sir, it is the old cell of Jeffry Epstein, but we have removed the bars, cot, etc and put in a “Hilton” like environment…nothing at all sir, to worry about.

      We have ’round the clock staff’ ready to serve your every need, just use the phone!

      You’ve got nothing to worry about, sir…we promise!

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  20. By ignoring the obvious and asserting the canard that there was no bias, Horowitz attempts to overcome the element of “willfulness” in the applicable statute below, which would have otherwise exposed several of the actors to a term of life Imprisonment. Everything else is there. . . . . Same crap Comey pulled when letting Hillary & Co. off the hook.

    If Barr/ Durham do have the evidence of intent that WE ALL KNOW IS OUT THERE AND CHARGE ACCORDINGLY, they’re screwed.

    Political dirty tricks are as old as civilization, but violating the civil rights of innocent private citizens can not be permitted to be part of that game in OUR COUNTRY.

    _______________________

    DEPRIVATION OF RIGHTS UNDER COLOR OF LAW

    SUMMARY:

    Section 242 of Title 18 makes it a crime for a person acting under color of any law to willfully deprive a person of a right or privilege protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States.
    For the purpose of Section 242, acts under “color of law” include acts not only done by federal, state, or local officials within the their lawful authority, but also acts done beyond the bounds of that official’s lawful authority, if the acts are done while the official is purporting to or pretending to act in the performance of his/her official duties. Persons acting under color of law within the meaning of this statute include police officers, prisons guards and other law enforcement officials, as well as judges, care providers in public health facilities, and others who are acting as public officials. It is not necessary that the crime be motivated by animus toward the race, color, religion, sex, handicap, familial status or national origin of the victim.

    The offense is punishable by a range of imprisonment up to a life term, or the death penalty, depending upon the circumstances of the crime, and the resulting injury, if any.

    https://www.justice.gov/crt/deprivation-rights-under-color-law

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  21. ALEX says:

    Excellent. A by the book law man like Durham does not make this statement lightly….and the silence of Brennan was almost all I needed anyways.

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  22. Perot Conservative says:

    Joe diGenova: “FISA Report will ruin careers; people are going to be indicted”.

    “[Victoria] Toensing said the report will be “worse than you can imagine.” ”

    More Joe: “DOJ INSPECTOR GENERAL FOUND ALL FOUR CARTER PAGE FISA WARRANTS WERE ILLEGALLY OBTAINED, JOE DIGENOVA SAYS”

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    • ezpz2 says:

      Much as I like Joe de Genova and don’t doubt that he’s well meaning, I’ve learned to take what he says with a barrel of salt since his first hyped up predictions bombed rather than boomed.

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  23. rigst4 says:

    Even those who disagree with the IG Horowitz findings, who issued statements, I wouldn’t really even describe those as strongly worded. It’s all kind-of, sort-of, don’t really completely agree. More whitewashing to come.

    But the most important this is not what the democrats say to defend themselves, saying they did nothing wrong. It is the fact that the conspirators are all walking around free, making tons of money writing books and appearing on television and, I might add, laughing their asses off while doing so.

    No justice for the citizens, again.

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    • DJ Snyder says:

      Then why even make a statement, if you’re just gonna sweep it under the rug? You would just let the executive summary speak for itself… Don’t be a troll…

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    • WSB says:

      I wonder if Wray whpped up the conclusion again? The internals of this report seem pretty damning. The conclusion, meh.

      The one thing these whitewashed conclusions offer, is that the usual suspects may be plausibly denying the damning sections. This also allows the Media Cartel to send a false positive, IMHO.

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  24. freepetta says:

    Barr and Durham are proceeding full speed ahead!!

    INDICTMENTS!! INDICTMENTS!! INDICTMENTS!!

    LET’S ROLL!!

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  25. Issy says:

    I wasn’t expecting much from Horowitz, but what I have seen so far is worse than not much.

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  26. Brittney says:

    Horowitz had no other choice but to report many detailed facts because of the mountains of evidence being everywhere because PDJT and the American People has seen the criminal acts. The IG report gave enough detailed evidence for PDJT, Barr and Durham to add to their mountains of evidence and to prosecute.

    Horowitz will not risk his neck and play in the middle. That is all we expect and need.

    Horowitz does not have the power of PDJT, Barr and Durham to complete the criminal picture and that will be his way (excuse) of playing in the middle.

    Horowitz needed to be careful in not leaving out too much detail because he can have liability, especially when PDJT, Barr and Durham are building many criminal cases against the coup and will clearly be able to analyze his work.

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  27. James Groome says:

    Horowitz is only going to find LOW HANGING FRUIT… entities outside his jurisdiction to investigate, even if used as a direct conduit between agents with-in his purview, would negate a finding of a conspiracy by him because he cannot tie the conspiracy to the two people without the “go between”.
    That’s the whole sham of the IG… if he presents evidence of wrong doing and the DOJ does not take evidence to a Grand Jury then it’s the DOJ who is failing to prosecute out of deference to their peers. ‘
    MAYBE we need an office of PUBLIC PROSECUTION for the prosecution of LAWYERS AND GOVT OFFICIALS.

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  28. Gary says:

    I believe this statement means Barr has turned Durham loose. He can speak for his own investigation.

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  29. RJ says:

    My my–here I am at my most favorite Washington, DC country club, being the fly on the wall just listening to many conversations by those high in our government:

    “Don’t worry, we’ve got our people running the show!” (IG people)

    “Don’t worry, we’ve got our people running the show!” (Durham’s people)

    So dear readers, nothing to report here, it is a stalemate, a wash, and time to buy some new clubs!

    I’m gonna go fly around outside and see what I can learn on the links…time to buzz off!

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  30. Gary says:

    It occurred to me how the DOJ /FBI. Can protect themselves by baffling us with bull. The Obama actions on the Ukraine,by elected officials,not so much. Be pretty funny when Obama goes down over Ukraine.

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  31. Cocoon says:

    21 months and IG is limited in discovering the predicate?
    400+ attorneys?
    What’s the point?
    And do we get explanations to the two separate write-ups by FISA Judges on the contractors and the tens of thousands of FISA abuses?
    Who are the contractors?
    Is it criminal activity?
    Who authorized them?
    What’s the remedy?

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  32. HellInAHandbasket says:

    Expecting the government agency of the DOJ investigating itself and presenting a report to reveal truths about itself — is like asking the bank robber who successfully fled the scene with $1-million, to go back inside the vault, call the police, put all the money back, and write-up a report detailing what he did, then when the cops arrive, he should have already handcuffed himself, hand over his report, and when he’s brought back to the station, he should walk over and sit in the electric chair, and flip-the-switch on himself and die.

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  33. woohoowee says:

    We jess wanna arress!!!!

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  34. k4jjj says:

    Durham obviously does have a bunch of scoundrels by the short hairs and he is not letting Horowitz have any time to derail the Big Ugly coming down the tracks to run them over.

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  35. William Schneider says:

    I also expected little form Horowitz based on his previous whitewashed tepid reports on disgusting wrongdoing. Durham is another type of man from all I have read-a true warrior and justice seeker-with no regard for political loyalties. I ultimately believe in the power of prayer and I and many millions of truth seeking Republicans have been praying for Barr and Durham for a long time now. Durhams strong statement today shortly after Horowitz’s tepid miserable excuse of thorough report is damn encouraging for us truth and justice seekers.
    Durham was hand picked by a Barr who wanted to see real justice served to clean up the desecration of the CIA and FBI by corrupt bums. I believe Durham will bring us a real report -replete with indictments of criminals and massive proof of their wrongdoing. He is taking time make the case iron -proof.
    Let us all keep these guys in our prayers-that is Barr and Durham. Our God is the KIng of Truth and I believe he will answer our prayers here for these men. Praise God!!!

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  36. arze says:

    A FAILURE

    From top to bottom.

    A Failure, a fact-free failure.

    Brought to you by the Administration without ‘Scandal’, President Barack H. Obama. Loretta Lynch, you did a “helluva” job too.

    From XIV
    That so many basic and fundamental errors were made by three separate, hand- picked teams on one of the most sensitive FBI investigations that was briefed to the highest levels within the FBI, and that FBI officials expected would eventually be subjected to close scrutiny, raised significant questions regarding the FBI chain of command’s management and supervision of the FISA process. FBI Headquarters established a chain of command for Crossfire Hurricane that included close supervision by senior CD managers, who then briefed FBI leadership throughout the investigation. Although we do not expect managers and supervisors to know every fact about an investigation, or senior officials to know all the details of cases about which they are briefed, in a sensitive, high-priority matter like this one, it is reasonable to expect that they will take the necessary steps to ensure that they are sufficiently familiar with the facts and circumstances supporting and potentially undermining a FISA application in order to provide effective oversight, consistent with their level of supervisory responsibility. We concluded that the information that was known to the managers, supervisors, and senior officials should have resulted in questions being raised regarding the reliability of the Steele reporting and the probable cause supporting the FISA applications, but did not. In our view, this was a failure of not only the operational team, but also of the managers and supervisors, including senior officials, in the chain of command.

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  37. T2020 says:

    BOOM! 💥

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  38. IGiveUp says:

    Comey speaks. Announces he’s vindicated. Spits in your face.

    https://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2019/12/truth-finally-fbi-fulfilled-mission/

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  39. The Devilbat says:

    If Durham indicts the bad boys and girls there will be a lot of celebrating going on here at the Treehouse. What a shame that there are no longer public executions. I would drive a very long way to see those traitors hung. Hillary of course should be hung twice.

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  40. Jill M Perkins says:

    I would like to comment that the inspector general report is like an audit of a business. It tells what had gone wrong and how to fix the problems. It’s mission is how to protect the institution.

    Let’s chill and wait for the Durham report because that is the most important one looking for criminality.

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  41. Jimmy Jack says:

    Sources “outside the US” – that’s the key that surely has some swampies nerveous.

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  42. Rupigal says:

    Re: the mention of Rudy G. being on our side….I have been listening to the YT videos of George Webb. Don’t know how legit he is but he has been working on all the connections around the drugs and arms deals the Epstein an Co,, including members of congress and gov’t people, have been involved in. This is where the real money is, not in all the sexual crimes (which are all probably related to bribery anyway). Also today he said that Rudy G. is not to be trusted and is himself helping to set up Trump from the side of the right with all the shenanigans with Parnas and Fulmar. It would make sense to me that the really big deals are the coverups for the massive amounts of arms dealings with small countries and then drugs coming this way. Alphabets involved too.

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  43. Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

    Hey, if the boss says to spy on Trump and frame him then that’s what they do. “Just following orders” will be their defense and the buck will stop way before it gets to the Resolute Desk of BO44.

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  44. IGiveUp says:

    So it was all lies. No treason. No spying on the campaign. No tapping Trumps wires. It was just good people trying to protect America. https://t.co/9nurCaIBq2
    — James Comey (@Comey) December 9, 2019

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    • Justin Green says:

      Wow, that’s just a flat out false statement. That’s not even spinning facts, lol.

      Comey’s such a degenerate.

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      • jello333 says:

        I honestly think Jimmy has gone halfway insane… I’m not even joking. I think the stress and denial has just about destroyed him. So I’m not sure if he believes what he’s saying or not. He may really believe it. And if so, when he’s indicted they need to keep a close eye on him, because I can very much imagine him doing something stupid. (By the way, I’ve never noticed Comey to ever make typos in his “tweets”, but this has a small one… “Trumps” without the apostrophe. More evidence he’s super stressed?)

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  45. The FISA court “failed to show due diligence”? So-called Judge Rosemary Collyer admits they NEVER SO MUCH AS HELD A HEARING on any of the four warrants to surveil the entire Trump campaign. The FBI could have written “We know this guy is a spy because we read about it on the inside of a Bazooka Bubble-Gum wrapper” and it would have been OK’d. The first recommendation should be to fire every so-called “FISA Court Judge” (not just from “FISA duties,” mind you — discharge them from any and all government employment) and save their salaries by just sending the FBI a big red “OK’d!” rubber stamp to use as they see fit. — V.S.

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  46. d13fh4izzy says:

    I see a lot of disappointment and overreaction. Horowitz was always going to have limited scope and be a factfinder, that’s it. I’d say he finally confirmed the role of the Steele dossier as pretty much all the FBI had for the FISAs (and debunked it), he showed how egregiously the FBI misled the FISC, and confirmed that at least two confidential sources engaged members of the campaign. That in and of itself should be a major public scandal, but it won’t be because of media coverage and because he was limited from making conclusions about motive because of lack of access to witnesses and no subpoena power. Even with the FBI giving him curated information, he managed to reveal significant abuse of an already constitutionally problematic process (FISA). Durham publicly disagreeing with him means he has evidence significant enough to undermine the conclusion that Horowitz made on the Crossfire Hurricane predicate by taking the FBI at face value, something he is required to do unless presented with contrary evidence (he can’t just demand it). Durham pretty much never made public statements during his prior investigations. It’s a sign that this conclusion bothered his team given what they are looking at. Durham is running a criminal probe, he likely isn’t writing a report, but will present evidence in the form of indictments if what he has found is as significant as he seems to be letting on.

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    • BobBoxBody says:

      ^^^^^^^^^^THIS TIMES A THOUSAND!!!
      Durham is the guy we need to watch now.

      The other guy we need to watch is Rudy Guliani. He’s dragging some serious ***t up in Ukraine that NOBODY in our government wants to see the light of day. Trump has Rudy’s back. The truth will come out. There’s no avoiding it at this point.

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    • jello333 says:

      Yeah, I don’t expect a single “report” from Durham, at least not until way down the road after this is all over with. What we can expect is a detailed (possibly written) statement as each indictment is handed down. And putting the pieces together in each of those will eventually amount to a full picture… a “report” in a way.

      But I also want to say that even though Horowitz is a bit of an idiot, and not terribly brave, he’s still done quite a bit of good. Look at all the specific evidence he developed during his investigation. And although he maybe isn’t harsh enough in the way he’s interpreting it, the “facts” he uncovered are still there. And NOW they can be used by Durham to merge with HIS investigation. In other words, now Durham doesn’t have to “reinvent the wheel”, since he’s already got quite a bit of what he needed from Horowitz.

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  47. Zippy says:

    Hmmm, I guess saying you can smell Trump supporters in a Walmart isn’t an official sign of political bias. Neither are insurance policies.

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  48. Redhotrugmama says:

    Durham wont be indicting. That is a fantasy. Republican voters should start thinking about how to change out GOPe congress members. Its over.

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