Sunday Talks – John Ratcliffe: “The Inspector General is going to have to find that there were things that were done wrong”…

As a reminder John Ratcliffe is one of only four members of congress who has reviewed all of the classified documents that surrounds the current background for the Inspector General report on FISA abuse.  That said, the quoted comment from Ratcliffe, while it will be overlooked by most, is the first visible sign reconciling a fundamental challenge previously highlighted.

In the 2018 IG report on FBI conduct in the 2016 election, the IG stated there was no evidence of any FBI activity being taken for political intents.  Yes, there was a tremendous amount of politically motivated evidence noted within the report; but the top-line statement by Horowitz was counter to the underlying evidence.

A year ago that led us to ask: how could the IG outline political motives in the FISA investigation, if he previously stated there was no politically motivated action by the FBI?

The statement today by Rep. John Ratcliffe seems to speak to this issue.  The implication within the words is that the evidence is so overwhelming the IG has few options.

[2018 IG Report Link]

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247 Responses to Sunday Talks – John Ratcliffe: “The Inspector General is going to have to find that there were things that were done wrong”…

  1. Do stop thinking about tomorrow says:

    From your lips to GOD’s ear.

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  2. Will it ever happen??

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    • Gary says:

      Something is going to happen. One way or the other.

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      • luke says:

        I’m with you Gary something has to give lol. The damn can only withstand so much pressure. I am confused about the 2018 IG report. How is it they are re releasing it; I guess maybe this one is strictly for the FISA aspect only?

        SD mentioned Ratcliffe as 1 of 4. I suppose another one would have to be Schiff. If that be the case then that clearly tells me what this whole Schiff Show is about. He knows the hammer is about to drop and he’s doing his damndest to muddy the waters before it does. When you live in a tangled web of lies and deceit like the left does it’s really the only defense you have.

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        • Matt Bracken says:

          Something has to give. It’s a battle between Team Impeachment and Team Barr/Durham.
          I read the Barr speech as a bugle signal to our troops to get ready for war. His speech was a shot across the bow of the deep state, media stooges, the DemSocRat congress, and Marxists in black robes. I think Barr knows that the Horowitz report is going to drop soon, and Bull Durham indictments will be following soon after. The Left will be screaming like burning banshees, and our side had better be ready for a fight. That’s how I heard his speech.

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          • graciegram says:

            Like, like, like !

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          • paulashley says:

            I watched the speech yesterday and it was indeed powerful and unflinching in its defense of the office of the presidency and in it’s condemnation of the branches attempting to destroy it. I pray Barr will be as unflinching in action as he is in word, even if the IG wimps out.

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          • Matt; That is ONE HELL OF A NUGGET YOU FOUND THERE!!!!!!

            You Found Gold in them there hillSSSSS!!!!!!

            Good Job!!!!

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          • Jederman says:

            Something indeed has to give. After all that has occurred none of this can be undone. For the first time in 250 yrs one side (the Left) rejected the peaceful transfer of power, based on a fair election. Until 2016 both sides have, more or less, played by the rules. No dem, particularly an obama rodent burrowed into the bureaucracy can every be trusted again.

            And now obama offers his best (former) presidential advice to his parties candidates. Lie (like he did) about your true beliefs and intentions until you’re elected. Only then, if elected, can you deliver a “fundamental transformation” speech.

            At this point, given the Left’s rejection of election results they don’t win, why should we continue to have elections? Are the Leftys likely to behave themselves and play by the rules if they don’t win in 2020? I think not. We are now on terminal glide and you’re right we need to be ready for impact.

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            • Dixie says:

              And now obama offers his best (former) presidential advice to his parties candidates. Lie (like he did) about your true beliefs and intentions until you’re elected. Only then, if elected, can you deliver a “fundamental transformation” speech

              A perfect example of “taqiyya”, the muslim accepted act of lying to accomplish world domination. SPIT!

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            • mortgagesforthemasses says:

              Actually, the first time the Democrats rejected a peaceful transfer of a presidential administration was after the election of Abraham Lincoln. The southern states started seceding before he was inaugurated.

              I don’t think it will come to pass because it would be disastrous for the country, but if the unhinged Left wish civil war or violent revolution, it won’t be like 1861, but rather a very, very short version of Spain Civil War(1936), with the same result for the Commies. I believe civil authorities, the military, and patriots will stop them in their tracks. Although they control many institutions, and have dominance over the media that makes them appear megalithic, I don’t think they have the true numbers, and they are at a geographic disadvantage.

              Calmer heads will prevail. There’s too much money at stake.

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            • Chump Change says:

              If Barr does his job, Trump will end up having to pardon Obama and Hillary will be in a Federal Prison for 10 years.

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          • Pale rider says:

            The military issue we are seeing is the lefts idea of Intimidation. “Don’t even think about it” is the point. That’s why our president has been sooo very busy endearing them and police. He is way ahead!
            They plan a takeover folks just get ready, before during or after this presidential election, depending on polls and results will determine the timing. If they have public backing and looks like they are behind, which they are, they will move on the president. If they look like they can steal this with voter fraud they will just slip right in. If they try and fail AGAIN then it will be complete rejection of our process and guessing civil blah blah.
            Rest assured we have the upper ground and the general to lead us through, God.

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          • Moe Grimm says:

            Good to see you here Matt. IF it leads to indictments I’ll be surprised. No Perry Mason’s needed here as there’s so much exculp evidence one would think there would be at least one (1) GJ impaneled up in CT. and too hard to keep secret. It’s also on me heavy that Barr defended fbi murderer Lon Horiuchi pro bono – quite a story and another one lost on the normies.

            “Criminal referrals” have thus far proven not even worth the paper they’re written on e.g. Grassley et al memos ignored. Whoreowitz “report” #1 killed x=# of trees to piss in the Heartland’s ear then conclude… it’s only raining…. followed by indictments declined and who knows what disposition/s regarding the interactions between Wray’s “rank-‘n-file” and the media. And 0bama who thus far has escaped all scrutiny though he of course had to have known acting as passive if not active participant. Real justice has Co-me, Brennan, Clapper handed up first followed by a slew more like Samantha Power who I actually saw running her mouth on “impeachment” this a.m. Another good fit as is 0bama. They’ve been so insulated, for so long, I can only think they believe they”ll escape this one too. U1/clinton, Benghazi, clinton foundation, F&F, irs, – a lot of dogs still barking. There’s a long way to go before Grandma’s house comes into sight. If not, consequences as you know.

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          • onekamaman says:

            You mean like Mitch McConnell “ready for a fight”. Sorry ……….. the visual is depressing.

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          • onekamaman says:

            You mean like Mitch McConnell “ready for a fight”. Sorry ……….. the visual is depressing.

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        • Lester Smith says:

          The psychology of persuading the puplic. He speaks, strikes last is remembered first. Let these fools impeach than IG and Durham drops the hammer and senate has their turn. News cycle dominated by dems and deep state wrong doing. Trump and others who have been hunted like rats will have puplic support. Majority of Americas understand when someone is being wrongly persecuted. Trumps team needs to pound daily how would you feel if this happened to you. Have to gain puplic empathy. People will be outaged and dems will be punished. Being last to speak is good not bad.

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        • Austin Holdout says:

          I think the other 2 are Gowdy and Nunes?

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        • islandpalmtrees says:

          Schiff and Pelosi, are not working to rid himself of President Trump for something like politics. Their fear of the Hammer is real. The Hammer, that reveals their corruption in the Ukraine. You cannot expect, to help market arms to the Ukraine without prosecution.

          Now add to this, that Schiff and Pelosi were members of the Gang-Of Eight in 2016. During this time-frame, evidence that should’ve been provided to the FISA court in the possession of the Gang-Of Eight was not. This in turn prevented the FISA court from knowing the full truth. And the Carter Page warrant being issued as a result.

          So how many years in jail, do you think Schiff and Pelosi would be entitled to when they have obstructed the business of the president for years and help to sell arms to the Ukraine without legal approval.

          How fearful do you think they should be of the release of the Horowitz FISA report. Would you, be willing to impeach a president to avoid this information from surfacing.

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      • luke says:

        I’m with you Gary something has to give lol. The damn can only withstand so much pressure. I am confused about the 2018 IG report. How is it they are re releasing it; I guess maybe this one is strictly for the FISA aspect only?

        SD mentioned Ratcliffe as 1 of 4. I suppose another one would have to be Schiff. If that be the case then that clearly tells me what this whole Schiff Show is about. He knows the hammer is about to drop and he’s doing his damndest to muddy the waters before it does. When you live in a tangled web of lies and deceit like the left does it’s really the only defense you have.

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        • sundance says:

          (1) John Ratcliffe
          (2) Former Rep. Trey Gowdy
          (3) Former HJC Chair Bob Goodlatte
          and
          (4) HJC David Cicilline (Democrat)

          None of the HPSCI Democrats wanted to see *all* the evidence. However, some of them did preview the Nunes memo content which was written by Gowdy and Ratcliffe’s review.

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          • Gowdy and Goodlatte quit. That leaves John Ratcliffe. Pray for his safety.

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          • luke says:

            As you have outlined more than once the Mamet’s take on the Left. “They have to pretend not to know certain things in order for their ideas to work.” I guess neglecting to look at evidence is another method of “not knowing things.” I suppose that is what the left is trying to pull as it is easier not to know than unlearn facts. Lol though I’ve never seen facts get in the way of any of their other arguments. Those bastards will tell you it’s dark outside at noon. In their minds the only consequences for their treachery are political ones; how do voters see them. And not much else matters to them after that. If HRC would have been anointed their little concern about the voter would have been probably a thing of the past by now.

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            • Patience says:

              More of the party of, We have to pass it to find out what’s in, AND yes we can.
              >Pathetic

              They are the losing team….. losers and lost souls; leftists

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            • HellInAHandbasket says:

              The mind of “The Left” from a well respected conservative Philosopher in 2017:

              “There is a need on the left to have an enemy. And the essential attitude of the left is founded in the belief that everything is in the wrong hands, and power is something that “I” ought to have, but somebody else has – so they look around for the things that have power, the old institutions, the things that have inherited wealth, influence, and the old world view that goes with that and they are all demonized, that they are not just an arrival set of beliefs or lifestyles, they are the enemy. The left believes the people on the other side [conservatives] are not just wrong, they are evil and they have the right to destroy them.”
              ~Sir Roger Scruton, Philosopher

              I have always retained the belief that “the left” legitimately believe it is their duty to remove and destroy ALL opposing views BECAUSE they believe they are righteous in doing so – they legitimately believe their righteousness is a level of Godliness, in that if not for them taking-down evil [conservative voices], who will? This belief is not outside of even the most mild “Liberal” brain, they are just not as vicious or outward in their attacks, but the mindset/belief system is still as strong in its perceived righteousness. This would explain why every single advocate of a left leaning political slant tell the world it’s up to them to teach the rest of us how to be human, we are subhuman in their eyes – therefore, if not for the leftist brains inside the FBI/CIA/DOJ who worked diligently to “stop” a Donald J Trump Presidency were righteously correct in doing so, and we should get down on our knees and thank them….

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          • Dixie says:

            Their choice to remain ignorant is profound and damning to this country.

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    • aarmad says:

      It may come out, but when? Maybe never or after the 2020 election. This has been nothing but delays. Supposedly it was to be out in Sept., etc. Just last week, out before Thanksgiving, now the beginning of Dec. It is laughable! if it wasn’t so critical.

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  3. davidberetta says:

    If you’re not part of future then GET OUT OF THE WAY!

    The way I see it from a patriotic standpoint on “idle”. Patiently idling folks…

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    • H.R. says:

      davidberetta: “The way I see it from a patriotic standpoint on “idle”. Patiently idling folks…”

      Nicely put, David. I’m ready to stomp the petal to the metal as the Christmas tree cycles down from red, through yellow, to green. That is GO! time.

      Meanwhile, I’ll keep the front brakes locked and the RPMs at maximum torque level. That’s ‘Cold Anger’… ready to dump the clutch when the light hits green.

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  4. Back to what I said back then.
    There is much wiggle room when the investigative issue is prosecutorial discretion, but this FISA thing has “bright line” barriers that were crossed. Big difference, IMO.

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    • Jan says:

      Especially when you consider Sundance’s article today about the database abuse continued on with the Mueller investigation.

      People have to be held accountable no matter which party they claim to be.

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    • mopar2016 says:

      People need to be prosecuted for the coup.


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    • Zippy says:

      “but this FISA thing has “bright line” barriers that were crossed”

      FISA Court Rolls Over, Plays Dead
      Aug 28, 2013

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/jennifergranick/2013/08/28/fisa-court-rolls-over-plays-dead/#2b26114763ae

      A newly declassified opinion shows FISA court “oversight” in the face of egregious, unconstitutional and potentially criminal government misconduct means nothing.

      Last week, thanks to the Electronic Frontier Foundation’s excellent FOIA work, we got the gift of a newly declassified 2011 FISA court opinion. The opinion finds that the government misled the FISA court for over three years about the details of its illegal and unconstitutional surveillance programs. These lies hid from the court the fact that every year, the NSA is collecting at least 56,000 emails – and possibly many more — between innocent Americans who have no foreign connections and are suspected of no crimes. That’s bad, but the worst part of it is, when the government’s lies were finally exposed the FISA court demanded … that NSA analysts read our private messages right away, so they can be used or deleted more quickly. In other words, the government got not a slap on the wrist, but a pat on the back.

      This was the third lie in less than three years that the FISA court had learned about. The judge described one such pattern of lying in Footnote 14 of this newly declassified opinion. There, the clearly outraged judge said the NSA had misrepresented so frequently and systematically how it conducted its program to collect and query Americans’ phone call records that the agency had utterly subverted the Court-mandated oversight regime for that program.

      So what did the court do when it found out it had been lied to, that purely domestic communications were fair game, that untold numbers of innocent people were being illegally spied on, and that all the safeguards in place needed to be rethought?

      Nothing, really. The court suggested the NSA should train its analysts to notice when their queries turned up an MCT – i.e., an Internet transaction containing multiple messages — and then to look carefully at all the by-catch. If existing procedures allowed them to use anything in those purely domestic messages that they were never supposed to have collected in the first place, great! Otherwise, only after collection and review, should the information be deleted. The NSA adopted this approach, and continues to blithely collect Internet transactions containing wholly domestic communications between innocent Americans to this day.

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      • Orygun says:

        This falls in line with the left’s theory of guilty until proven innocent. Every American is guilty of some crime until they prove us innocent. Must be dizzying wielding that kind of power.

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        • Zippy says:

          My point in posting that is to provide an example of the level of oversight (none) and punishment (none) for very serious violations of FISC rules to pour cold water on the umpteenth “Oh, boy, heads will roll from the next report” optimism.

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  5. California Joe says:

    True, the IG has no options since Durham is following in his footsteps and both Horowitz and Durham answer to AG Barr. If Horowitz takes dive on this round like he did on the others he completed he’d be outed as a fraud and looking for a job with CNN!

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    • LOL

      Yeah, that’s what we thought would happen to HRC until James Comey gave us all the middle finger and let her off the hook.

      Horowitz doesn’t HAVE to do anything. Once Comey shafted us and walked away Scot-Free, it became obvious that the DC Swamp is SO DEEP that only a fearless rogue like Trump will dare to fight them.

      Fearless rogues aren’t forced into doing something out of guilt, or outside pressure. They either do it, or they don’t. It’s just that simple.

      Horowitz may decide to screw us again, or he may press forward.

      Question:

      What is the best predictor of future behavior?

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      • Ned Zeppelin says:

        Good point. But this time Barr and behind him, Durham. Not sure “declined to prosecute” will work, when Durham can (and will) decide otherwise. Once the indictments start, these weakling canaries will be singing the high notes to save their own necks, no tradition of omerta here.

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      • noswamp says:

        What is the best predictor of future behavior?

        In my opinion the best predictor of Horowitz behavior is how Barr treated Mueller. Mueller was forced to wrap it up in a couple of months, after Barr pushed him, if he did not push him, Mueller would still be investigating Trump today. After his speech at Federalist Society 11-2019, Barr will definitely make certain that H recommends that Bull Durham prosecutes folks, and get the report out before December. Just my thoughts.
        They have some silent agreement here that I am seeing(RINOS and Deep State, all giving Trump bad advice). Apparently someone is telling the Democrat weasels in Congress that the IG report will be released either before or after Thanksgiving.

        Maybe another Treeper can hypothesize something a bit more accurate. Sundance?

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        • smartyjones1 says:

          Agree on the first part how AG Barr shut down Weismann and his creative obstruction theories. I mean Mulehead.

          People have forgotten how effectively he ended that scam.

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        • RJ says:

          Horowitz reminds me of the “typist” in the movie “Saving Private Ryan” where he gets ordered to join the hunt, tries using his typewriter as an excuse to back out, then is told a pencil will do. Down the line (after the first IG report) our typist lets the German soldier go who will eventually kill his captian (Hanks) and then be killed by our typist, finally realizing what a soldier is all about via the deaths of those he was part of and allowed to happen.

          In other words, Horowitz’s days are surely numbered as is his reputation: He will be remembered as a poodle, while Durham and Barr may come out of this as Belgian Malinois fighters.

          Hopefully…while I am still able to breathe and can open my eyes.

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      • Austin Holdout says:

        Horowitz can only make “criminal referrals”, which he did for McCabe and (possibly) Comey. The DOJ has to indict. Let’s pray they do this time around.

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      • paulashley says:

        I may be wrong, but the IG report does not bind Barr. If nothing is done despite massive evidence of wrongdoing, it will all fall on Barr in the history books’ sections on this greatest of scandals and crises.

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        • Barr was recommended by Dubya. He isn’t going to upset any applecarts.

          Wait and see:

          No one, I repeat: NO ONE, of any importance or significance will be charged, let alone prosecuted, convicted, or jailed in relation to SpyGate, FISAgate, or any other aspect of the attempted overthrow of President Donald J Trump.

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      • Dixie says:

        Past behavior…… and that doesn’t make me feel warm and fuzzy.

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    • Bucknutguy says:

      Put yourself in Horowitz’s shoes for a moment. What’s the personal upside for him to out the Coup? What’s the downside personally?

      It’s not an equally distributed probability curve. More downside personally to out. When push comes to shove he balks, retires in a few years to Boca and nobody he encounters is the wiser as he golfs and dined on his fat pension.

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      • noswamp says:

        When push comes to shove he balks, retires in a few years to Boca and nobody he encounters is the wiser as he golfs and dined on his fat pension.

        Difference is that AG is not Sessions. It’s Barr. And there is a real criminal investigation that has been announced.

        Do you wonder why Obama has begun piping up about telling the Dems what they need to do (i.e. lie about) in order to win in 2020?

        Obama knows information will be coming out soon that he was spying illegally on Trump. Obama can’t just retire into the sunset just yet. He has to ensure his party wins 2020. Thus the desperation from the Dems in impeachment, Bloomberg, and Patrick Duvall maybe even Michelle Obama being nominated in a Dem Convention.

        Enjoy the show.

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        • RJ says:

          “Enjoy the show” you say. Well, when the residents of “chocolate city” (New Orleans) push the democrat across the line to victory in Louisana, is this the kind of show you want us to enjoy? I don’t think so.

          As to seeing Obama–hell, even hearing about him makes my skin crawl! Obama has a game plan, bet on that. Hillary too. And so it goes with Pelosi and her minions. The real question is do the republicans have a plan?

          I’ve been bleeding out for over 2.5 years on this Trump ambush at every turn. Just how much blood do you think people like me carry?

          This ain’t no show! This is raw politics, winner take all. My bet is on Trump. but he can carry the ball only so far, he needs backup and he needs serous backup. I want more troops backing him up besides the “special operators” we have seen every now and then.

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        • bentley1blog says:

          You say enjoy the show? This whole mess is frightening to say the least. Nothing enjoyable about the likes of Michelle, Duvall ot dried up prune Bloomberg standing next to our warrior Trump. Yes, our President will out them for the traitors they are, but certainly not entertaining IMO.

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        • Obama’s lust for power did not dissipate after he was “Termed Out”

          Since he can no longer be President, he wants to protect his ability to influence politics so he can become America’s leading “Kingmaker” and continue to steer us towards his vision of ” Fundamental Change”

          This explains why, after the ’16 Hillary disaster, he hasn’t formally endorsed any particular Candidate for 2020. One more stinging defeat of that magnitude will turn him into an outsider.

          HE won’t endorse anyone until the very last moment, when then writing is already on the wall. He’s now becoming impatient, and wants to speed up the process by pointing out the obvious:

          The entire Dem Party was tricked into a ride on a CRAZY TRAIN by our GREAT President, Donald Trump.

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      • todayistheday99 says:

        Except he will always be looking over his shoulder wondering who is going to put a pillow over his twisted face in his nursing home days when his alzheimer kicks in.

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    • oldumb says:

      I think Horowitz produced a full report documenting the crap that went on. The FBI Brass wrote the summary that said nothing to see here – move on. So I think, once again, everyone is shooting the wrong direction. Horowitz isn’t the man, he is the fact finder – he did that. The man shut it down. IIRC.

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    • aarmad says:

      You would think AG Barr would get it done. Suspicious that he has said little! He be a part of the problem in my mind. Frustrating!

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  6. Mongo Mere Pawn says:

    There is one way to conclusively prove the political motive. Determine whether any of the FISA 702 abuse documented by Admiral Rogers and Judge Colyer surveilled Republican presidential candidates other that Donald Trump. If so, the entire Russian asset construct goes up in flames and, if Fusion GPS or Mrs. Ohr was a surveilling subcontractor, it will conclusively prove the surveillance was political, not a matter of national security. Unfortunately, it will also demonstrate that no segment of the intelligence community can be trusted with that type of intrusive authority. That’s why the reauthorization is so timing sensitive.

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    • H.R. says:

      Mongo: “[…] or Mrs. Ohr […]”

      That should read, “the lovely Mrs. Ohr.” You must respect the assessment of the Office of The President.
      ;o)

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    • Zimbalistjunior says:

      Yes but. Remember Byrne from overstock already claimed that the fbi et al were also investigating HRC.
      They investigate everybody. And they claim national security. Bc hey there’s too much at stake here blah blah blah

      The key is the exoneration of HRC and the connection to Then candidate trump.

      They only exonerated HRC once they knew Trump was going to win nomination. Otherwise they would have hung her out to dry and had her replaced as candidate. They’d have been fine with Bush Marco or Cruz as repub candidate.

      Check strzok page ‘pressure to complete MYE’ text from May 2016.

      There was no possible national security reason to exonerate HRC. That’s the key.

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      • oldumb says:

        They may have been investigating HillDog as a preventative measure. In order to find out what needs to be covered up. It would be a feather in the cap of an FBI Director when visiting madame el Presidente.

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  7. cantcforest says:

    Sundance, I’ve followed your amazing bread crumbs for several years. There is a coup. PDJT is amazing. And I hate about 30 million obtuse Americans(AINO). I’m going to cut down on how often I come here. Call it personal sanity hygiene.
    Thank you for all you do.

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    • ABN says:

      “I’m going to cut down on how often I come here.”

      Don’t be a baby. We all need to keep our eyes open and on the ball. Conditions are constantly changing. It is vital we stay abreast of new information. If you have enough brains to understand sundance’s incredible contribution, we need you.

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    • B Woodward says:

      I understand. I think the key is staying neutral, not going into judgment, and not getting emotionally upset about what you see or read. Consider it to be Shakespeare’s theater. The planet is returning to a 5th dimensional consciousness. So there are a lot of good things coming in the future, like free energy (Nikola Tesla’s free energy inventions that were suppressed?), greater abilities to feed the planet, and better technology. And the 3rd dimensional reality is being deconstructed. There are new waves of light coming in that are assisting in shifting things. In this next decade there may be more weather events, earthquakes, fires, and people leaving the planet. In many cases they may be choosing to leave rather than go through this transition. It’s part of the shift to the 5th dimensional consciousness. The truth has to come out. So don’t go into judgment. Stay in the higher mind and observe, and don’t go into fear or hate. Hold a feeling of allowing and possibility. Blessings.

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    • Dixie says:

      I understand the “personal sanity hygiene” comment, but if you stop now, you will never be able to catch up again.

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  8. BoreMole says:

    I appreciate this site immensely for speaking actual truth to the actual power (unlike our media once did), but I’ve also been travelling for a couple weeks for work now. I just want to caution you that this echo chamber operates no differently than any other chambers out there, guys. Perception is reality, and right now, we are not even remotely winning the perception war. If you think the volume is at 11, there is a lash-out coming that we will not believe, IMO. Even if at the end of the day, the only thing coming from all this chaos is a 1% sway in voter opinion – combined with all the mass fraud we all know is being prepared that we did NOTHING to stamp out when we had the chance… its not a good sign.

    Now I will sit back while you all lecture me about not paying attention or all the winning or how great Elise is doing its obvious they are toast or all the closet supporters, etc…. It gives me no pleasure and I am not even an overly pessimistic guy. I’m just saying that something more drastic than bitching on a blog where everyone agrees with you is the only thing that will turn this ship, right now. There is no tick tock magic plan its all going to come together and everyone bad will go to jail and the double secret IG indictments will save us and make all the evil collapse overnight.

    ITS. NOT. HAPPENING.

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    • gary says:

      i don’t come on here to bitch. i come here to learn.

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    • Justin Green says:

      Sure, only the naive expected the Deep State to wave a white flag the night Trump was elected.

      The one positive is that Trump could well have 8 years of deadlocking and exposing the deep state to the American people. No previous President in modern history has taken the fight to the media like Trump, either.

      I do see the old Democrat guard being replaced by complete dipchits. Utter, incompetent dipchits. And as I get a bit older and see Republican Congressmen and Congresswomen younger than me turn out to be complete pitt bulls, I’m optimistic. AOC vs. Stefanik. Omar vs. Gaetz. And on. There’s little competition between the groups, and Pelousy and Schiff and Biden and Hillary have spent a lifetime of political capital fighting one Republican Presidential term. It’s hilarious, actually, and gives me great hope.

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    • Raquel says:

      I understand what you are saying, but is nice to come here to learn AND to be encouraged. It’s like going to a pep rally. Also, if you do have the opportunity to talk to the unlearned, you have ammunition that can be coherently used. It is nice to have links, videos, and documents posted in one spot. And I really appreciate the comment section, because it is another source of education. Treepers are intelligent, informed people and readily share their information and sources.

      MY big whine is that there are obviously SO many ideological people out there that are under educated and voting based on that ignorance (yes! ignorance). I find they simply don’t want to take the time to learn OR don’t have the time because of life itself. Plus, I have personally found that the information they espouse, if thought through, simply doesn’t make any sense in fact. It can be very simply contradicted when confronted with truth or simple, logical, common sense. Also, there are sheep that believe all the propaganda that’s put out there by the msm or other under educated friends and family.

      It is nice to be part of a collective where we can learn of, cheer, and pray for our heroes on the front lines. They certainly need our prayers as they can be where we cannot be. Their voices can speak in public what we can only scream from the sofa or at the computer screen. So God bless people like President Trump, Devin Nunes and Jim Jordan and…..

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    • ms doodlebug says:

      Thank you for the honesty. I also identified this as an echo chamber, but at least one that offers food for thought.

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    • Baby El says:

      BoreMole – I friend of mine said this 30 years ago regarding education:
      “You get out.. what you put in”
      It helps me keep things in perspective.
      ~El

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    • aarmad says:

      I don’t think you are a pessimist, but more like a realist. I think generally we all want justice and want it now. I believe you are right: IT’S.NOT.HAPPENING

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    • Dixie says:

      ….combined with all the mass fraud we all know is being prepared that we did NOTHING to stamp out when we had the chance….

      Geez, I must have missed that we, the people, had the opportunity to stamp out all the mass fraud…I don’t think we’ve had the opportunity to do anything short of a civil war.

      By the same token, I do agree with your unspoken thought (which I presume to hear) that we need to STOP BEING POLITE!

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  9. johnparham1 says:

    The ‘body’ of the first IG report was devastating. It was the preface – that was a summary written by the DOJ – that was milk toast since it knew the summary would be used by the media for talking points. The DOJ is under new leadership and Barr has already proved he can write an accurate summary. Just reference the Mueller report summary.

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  10. johnparham1 says:

    The ‘body’ of the first IG report was devastating. It was the preface – that was a summary written by the DOJ – that was milk toast since it knew the summary would be used by the media for talking points. The DOJ is under new leadership and Barr has already proved he can write an accurate summary. Just reference the Mueller report summary.

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  11. Sharpshorts says:

    Under oath??? What is an oath???
    Ah yes, the best of the best of the best…
    John Ratcliffe would not answer Maria’s question whether Schiff IS ever under oath.
    Which means no congressman IS ever under oath.

    Bill Clinton’s best quote: “I guess it depends on what your definition IS is.”
    and Hillary’s best quote: “.What difference…does it make”

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    • Zy says:

      None of these Congress critters are under the laws the peons must abide by. Don’t they also have their own healthcare so they don’t have to mingle with the Walmart shoppers at the local clinic?

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    • Republicanvet91 says:

      Schiff would not be under oath during the hearing, but he is under his oath he swore when taking office, which is a waste of time since so many ignore it.
      In addition to my enlistment oaths, I took an oath when I testified before Congress years ago. Back then, they seemed to take it more seriously since I got a transcript of my testimony about a week later, with a letter asking if I wanted to correct anything I said…under penalty of perjury for any false statements.
      I sent it back without any corrections, and often wonder why they bothered since it seems clear Congress never cared about any false statements made to them until Roger Stone.

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    • Ma McGriz says:

      You might want to listen again, Sharps…..he does affirm that for her, and she makes use of it again at the end of the segment to pointedly call into question the truthfulness of schiff’s letter.
      Good stuff.

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    • deeperinfo says:

      Punchdrunk Pelosi just said
      President Trump can come to Congess and “take the oath of office” and testify.
      Her brain is broken.

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      • littleanniefannie says:

        When did she get one? Must be next day delivery from Amazon!

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      • Ma McGriz says:

        Just saw the same taunt from chuck shumer on the local FOX station.

        I guess they thought better of having nanci do it after her earlier brain f*rt.

        This taunt seems like an act of desperation.

        The President will be delighted. It will be his morning ‘twitter toy.’

        He knows we love it when he toys with them.

        He knows how to make being President fun.

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    • mugzey302 says:

      Douglas Gabriel at American Intelligence Media has discussed a law that gives Congress a pass to the lying under oath penalty. It’s at the bottom of the last page, so people will miss it. I can’t remember the details of the bill number, etc. But it certainly explains their casual attitude toward lying!

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    • ILOT says:

      I believe they are offered certain Immunity under Article 1, Section 6 of the Constitution which is the Speech and Debate clause. Yes, like so many others it has been exploited and abused. Schiff is an example in this impeachment debacle…

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  12. Gadsden says:

    Sure it will. Just like the Hillary IG report. And absolutely nothing will be done, nothing will change no one will be held accountable.

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  13. DeWalt says:

    I expect nothing more than the previous report.

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  14. Jim Raclawski says:

    INTEGRITY — MORALS and CHARACTER —- are the fundamental requirements that must be at all times possessed as internal components of our elected representatives. no further explanation as to the relevance of these core characteristics —or the subversion of them —- is necessary

    all that’s brought us to this point in history is because so many “statesmen” and employees of our federal leviathan …… lack mastery of them—or even a nodding acquaintance with their shadows….

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  15. hokkoda says:

    My favorite “tell” was the FBI folks leaking to the Washington Post about their alleged restrictions on the report review. That is not the leak of confident people who know the report is no big deal.

    But, sigh, on to early December we go. The Democrats are rushing to impeach Trump before the report comes out. The Mueller investigation is a noose around their necks. The IG stands poised to say it was fraudulently initiated. Coup Plan A was an attempt to frame Trump as a Russian agent using a phony report (dossier, ICA) from the CIA. Coup Plan B is an attempt to frame Trump as attempting to blackmail Ukraine with military aid based on a phony whistleblower report (dossier) from the CIA.

    And whose name appears in both Plan A’s Mueller report and Plan B’s whistleblower report? Eric Ciaramella.

    We already know Durham’s scope was expanded into 2017’s coup activities and players. Based on what we know, he will need to expand his investigation to include Plan B’s 2019 activities and players.

    Which would include the activities of Adam Schiff, who has a noose from both A and B around his pencil neck.

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    • Carrie says:

      I have heard that Durham’s scope starts in 2012, the year before Comey became director of the FBI. Yes. Mueller was then the director…

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      • When did you hear that and do you have sourcing that you can will share?

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        • hokkoda says:

          I don’t think anybody knows for certain. However, having read Lee Smith’s book, the set-up of Gen Flynn began back in 2012 when Halper(?) tried to set up Flynn as having an affair with a Russian woman. So there’s suspicion that in order for Durham to really get to the bottom of the origins of the Russia probe, that he would need to track the investigations back to their deepest roots…which seems to be some sort of seminar back in 2012 involving Flynn, Halper, the Russian woman, etc. They weren’t able to compromise Flynn back then, but it all rolled forward in 2015/16 when Flynn started supporting Trump. At the very least, according to Nunes, the origins of the Russia investigation stretch back into late 2015 when Steele first got going.

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      • hokkoda says:

        They need to go back to when Flynn was first set up. We know it extends up to when Mueller was appointed in May 2017. Depending on what they find, it may well extend into the fraudulent Mueller probe itself (which was just a re-branding of Comey’s coup). We’ll know a lot more about whether hope is warranted if the IG Report is released. But there are definitely hooks to overturn all of Mueller’s convictions, as well as extend the probe into the 2019 impeachment coup.

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  16. Zorro says:

    Wow, reading CTH and watching Levin with Devin Nunes. Breaking news, Pelosi wants Trump to speak to impeachment committee. Entrapment scheme and if he refuses to show more what’s he hiding.

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  17. CopperTop says:

    He decide to retweet this NOW. (Article July 3, 2019)

    IG report??? Impossible to reconcile something related to Misfud???

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  18. Nancy says:

    Well, I wish they’d hurry up. I’d like to see the report before the end of Trump’s second term.

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  19. Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

    With FISA Warrant applications “mistakes” simply cannot be made….
    unless you INTEND to make them..
    So this should be a no brainer for Mike.
    H/T Danang Dick for clarifying this with the experts. (at 1:03:00)

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    • JL says:

      Strzok and Page spent two days talking about the conflicts involved with meeting Rudy Contreras off the books. They new it was a big deal. It appears Strzok did it anyway. Rudy Contreras is a weak point, and Horowitz and Durham have exploited it.

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      • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

        “It’s clear that Rosenstein flipped at some point. Whether Barr initiated it or Rosenstein offered himself up, he started becoming very helpful”

        -Devin Nunes
        The Plot Against The President: The True Story of How Congressman Devin Nunes Uncovered the Biggest Political Scandal in US History (Lee Smith)
        Page 309

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  20. Mike says:

    Congressman Schiff is a liar and thief. Liar to all America and theft of our time and money.

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    • mugzey302 says:

      Wouldn’t it be interesting to know the cost to the taxpayers of this Inquisition, the Lawfare groups bills, and The $ spent in support personnel for this coup? Pelosi and Schiff should hang for this, along with their smarmy lawyers.

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      • littleanniefannie says:

        DNC should be footing the bill for Lawfare. They are not employed by the committee since they only work for the Democrats. RNC should pay for Republican counsel. The taxpayers shelled out well over $25M for the Mueller/Weissmann debacle. That is waaayy too much!

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        • Ma McGriz says:

          Some significant perks and privileges enjoyed by elite ‘public servants’ can quickly go away if and when there are criminal charges filed. So when the indictments start, all bets are off and the DNC will be running fast and far away.

          There must be a lot of people sweating some huge legal fees, and a lot of very anxiety-ridden back channel communications and scurrying about taking place in and around DC.

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  21. Payday says:

    The first IG report was issued with Rosy in charge and Muller in full force. Maybe his report was influenced in some fashion by that.

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  22. TradeBait says:

    If they are going to drop a MOAB or if they are going to lay an egg – they need to just do it. We the People need to know what we are really dealing with going forward.

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    • trump20162024 says:

      We already know.

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    • We the people know says:

      This pending Horowitz report has been flying overhead, circling & circling like the Enola Gay (Boeing B29 Superfortress Bomber) for how long? It has the ability to end the war. There is no way they should wait until President Trump is impeached. If the IG report really has the payload that’s been hinted at for the past year, I’d drop that load on top of this inquiry in the next 24 hours, while indicating that it’ll happen some time in December.

      Bombs away Horowitz, unless this is another head fake.

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  23. JohnCasper says:

    “The statement today by Rep. John Ratcliffe seems to speak to this issue. The implication within the words is that the evidence is so overwhelming the IG has few options.”

    As Groucho said, “Who are you going to believe? Me or your own eyes?”

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    • Hahahaha! What a line!

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    • Derek Hagen says:

      Ah! I thought so. Groucho is the old guy. Kreskin IS the new guy.

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    • We the people know says:

      Groucho told a story once. He had a neighbor who used to shoot at his daughter’s dog with a BB gun. His daughter got so enraged she took a hammer and smashed all of her neighbor’s planters.
      Groucho found out and went over to his neighbor’s house and paid for the damage. He then went over to his daughter and told her, if you ever do that again, I’ll pay for it again.

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    • We the people know says:

      “The implication within the words is that the evidence is so overwhelming the IG has few options.”

      Horowitz is getting a hard stare down by Judge Sullivan (Flynn frame up), AG Barr, US Attorney John Durham. (Not to mention Ratcliffe, Gowdy, Jordon, Grassley, Nunes who if pushed hard enough may have to resort to the Mother of All Leaks (MOAL).

      Do the right thing Horowitz or we’ll blow your next “lack of candor” report to kingdom come.

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  24. That speaking address to the federalist society by Attorney General Bill Barr the other day gave me great hope that people will go to jail.
    I have to believe there are a handful of people in Washington representing us and that President Trump is not doing by himself.

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    • livefreeordieguy says:

      I’ve long since said that AG Barr will be the most consequential Attorney General in the history of the United States whether he simply does his job as he has sworn to do it — or not. We are getting to the point where Mr. Barr is either going to give us the answer we’d like to hear to the line that Sundance used in his post about that Federalist Society address — or not:

      “Your actions speak so loudly, I cannot hear what you are saying.”
      ― Ralph Waldo Emerson

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      • Beverly says:

        What Waldo said.

        I hope Barr has a “Come to Jesus” moment and actually puts his money where his mouth is. If, after making that speech that lays out so clearly how horrendously destructive the Left has been to our form of government and our precious Constitution, Barr STILL doesn’t slam the criminals/traitors/seditionists with indictments AND convictions — well, then we’ll see if he’s all mouth and no trousers, or all hat and no cattle.

        But I suspect he’ll make a show of tut-tutting it all, then sweeping this steaming heap under the rug, just like they all do.

        Even our beloved President, who is after all the Commander in Chief, has done a great deal of complaining but almost no knee-capping. I can’t think of anyone, and firing a Left-wing traitor just frees up their time to go on more talk shows and close more multi-million-dollar book deals.

        BTW, what ordure have the Oblammos “produced” for Netflix? remember they got what, $90 million or some obscene amount to be “producers”?

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        • Beverly says:

          I’m not knocking The Donaldus Magnus: I think he’s heroic. But I do think he’s going to have to grit his teeth and deal out some serious CONSEQUENCES and PUNISHMENTS to the criminals at SOME point.

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          • livefreeordieguy says:

            I don’t disagree, but I think that President Trump is playing a longer, bigger, trickier and more subtle game. A game that requires unflinching support from Patriots who have both sworn obligations and something approximating the courage and love of country that PDJT has… That would be you, Mr. Barr…. We anxiously await your reply… check that… your action.

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          • I think the knee-capping has been late due to delegation issues. DJT is used to delegating work through contractors and employees. Everything he tries to do as PDJT is frustrated by transparent opponents, internal resistance and federal bureaucracy. And his hiring decisions haven’t helped him. Barr’s behaviors have given us promise. And Trump knows if he doesn’t deliver convictions he will not be re-elected.

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  25. PCS says:

    Few? He only needs one. Likely he will take it?

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  26. T2020 says:

    Oh, I see. There only needs to be a hint of a crime with little-to-no-actual evidence for an ordinary American citizen to be jailed. But there MUST be OVERWHELMING, JAW-DROPPING, SERIOUS-AS-A-HEART-ATTACK-EVIDENCE for a lying POS alphabet agency government paid criminal to possibly or even remotely be accused and (“OMG”) indicted.

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  27. Republicanvet91 says:

    Slow Quid Pro Joe tweeted yesterday there were zero convictions during Obumbles reign of error.

    Horowitz needs to show how badly that is a lie.

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  28. Jim Rose says:

    Sundance. Senator Warren just said on air, at PBS firing line, something positive about President Trump “Top Dem Senator:Trump Deserves Credit For Letting US Punch Back At Russia, Unlike Past Presidents.”
    ???????

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    • Ma McGriz says:

      At some point reality forces them to sound rational, and right now she’s desperate to repel the toxic overspray coming off the puke posse…I mean peach posse… that’s covering the whole democrat herd with the stench of death.

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  29. pucecatt says:

    You all don’t think congress has say in when this is released do you ? I sure hope not , they can stall all they want but this report is coming out ..

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  30. chuck lowe says:

    Sometime in the next 10 Days, the much anticipated “IG” Report from Michael Horowitz will be made available to the public. As I type, in the dark, sinister forces align and gird themselves for a rare battle in the sun against you, the American people. Much of the treason and sedition that took place over the last 3 years, is being suppressed as powerful, frightening, tectonic shifts take place that will determine, from this point on, where we are, as a Republic.

    The “Impeachment” excrescence on our collective ass, is an incessant itch. This Potemkin like pretense lubed by the media’s ongoing, unctuous rationalizations forgiving self appointed plenipotentiaries for deviating from civilian command in lieu of Deep State Crypto-Fascists who really run the Federal Government is a temporary distraction that will give way, perhaps, to, “Propaganda Of The Deed”. Our government has betrayed us. These mortal sins, committed in darkness, in the dead of night, are unrightable wrongs that must be punished.

    From – Gil Gutknecht “Town Hall”

    “This is a coup. The objectives and tactics have been clear from the start. The recently released tweets from the “Whistleblower” confirmed what we already believed, “The coup has started” he wrote prophetically.

    The co-conspirators deserve much worse than to be sent packing in the next election. Long prison sentences are the only sure deterrent to prevent this from ever happening again. They almost succeeded.”

    Crimes committed during the Obama Administration, were obvious, but, like the Holodomor Denial, the 4th Estate remained silent. The Obama butt sniffing, Progressive, press pack dogs elevated sycophancy to the level of Christian Virtue while obfuscating and participating in Deep State, premeditated, malfeasance. Since 2010, the Obama White House, “Unmasked”, “Illegally Surveilled” and spied on journalists, private citizens and opposition campaigns in order to assist the Fascists in the Deep State in their quest for absolute power.

    The ascension of Trump, into the Oval Office shocked the “Triumvirate” of the Deep State, the DNC and the 4th Estate, all players on the same team, into the ex nihilo creation of the “Russian Collusion” Hoax. The, from the start, obviously biased, partisan, meretricious “Mueller Report”, always, Beria like, in search of a crime, failed to produce any criminality,as does this latest tendentious narrative, parroted by the repetitive, quotidian, Adam Schiff. Schiff’s abject, shameless avowal of obvious lies, innuendo are now at a Kavanaugh level. He should bring out a punch bowl for refreshments next week during the DNC “Show Trial”.

    Held so far, in abeyance, on the right, is righteous Rage At The Machine.

    We will see, if Lady Justice is truly blindfolded in the next 10 days.

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  31. Charles Martell says:

    Mr. David Gibson from Gibson Bakery vs. Oberlin College has passed. There is a thoughtful and well deserved article about his battle with cancer and Oberlin College over at legalinsurrection. The article provides a link to the bakery website. I went ahead and purchased some of their baked goods as a way to say thank you to a brave family that has fought and continues to fight against people who are not so nice. May Mr. Gibson rest in peace, and may his family have the strength to continue the good fight. May God bless and protect the Gibson family.

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  32. namberak says:

    “… but the top-line statement by Horowitz was counter to the underlying evidence.” By nature, I am not easily discouraged. Yet, I have no faith that justice will be done.

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  33. avi says:

    whatever happened to Huber?

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    • mimbler says:

      Last I heard, we were being impatient because it takes a long time to build airtight cases. Mueller obviously went to a different law school since he quickly convicted people of minor process crimes that still had real consequences. Seems like it should have been even easier for Huber since he was investigating people who were actually guilty.

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    • Zy says:

      Last I heard he went undercover.

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    • Rob says:

      I had read that soon after Huber was assigned to investigate, he had to stop investigating because it would have bumped into the Mueller fake investigation.
      If that were true, then why was it not obvious that he would not be able to investigate.

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  34. TreeperInTraining says:

    Ok. I’ll hold my breath, although blue is not my color.

    Cautious Optimism.

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  35. Annie says:

    Thank you Charles,,beautifully said.

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    • rigst4 says:

      If you wait by the river long enough…you will die of old age before any democrat operative sails by on the way to prison because no democrat is ever held accountable, ever.

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      • Beverly says:

        Yup.

        “Democracy Dies in Darkness” was their game plan all along.

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      • ILOT says:

        If you wait by the river long enough, your legacy will be that you became exactly that which brought you to the river – while patriots fought for your right to wait by the river.

        2 things you can do while you wait:
        1. Get a message to AG Barr that you look forward to him protecting the office of the Presidency as this President endures the unprecedented assault that he spoke of so eloquently in his speech at the Federalist Society on November 14th, 2019.
        2. Call or have friends call Dem reps and let them know they can not play a role in this assault on our Constitution by voting yes for impeachment.

        Mr. Barr made it perfectly clear the path we are on is this: A simple majority in the House will impeach ANY President. Given further erosion of the founding principles a simple majority in the Senate, via Cloture will not require a trial to impeach and subsequently unseat ANY President, thereby eliminating the need to even have an election. Any and all elections can and will be overturned with simple majorities.

        I’ve said it numerous times, Mr. Barr recognizes where this is headed and will not let it stand. He is not going to support a cover up as the implications above are very real, very now and he personally owns the fate of the Republic. This can not and will not stand. Mr. Barr was confirmed with 100% Senate support in 1991…100%! You can’t tell me he doesn’t fully recognize the state of the Union given his recent confirmation vote along party lines (54 Senators vote to confirm).

        Mr. Barr along with PDJT needs to know 63,000,000 are counting on him and support him.

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  36. JL says:

    “In the 2018 IG report on FBI conduct in the 2016 election, the IG stated there was no evidence of any FBI activity being taken for political intents. ”

    The report wasn’t about FBI conduct pertaining to the 2016election. The report was about FBI conduct pertaining to the Hillary Clinton investigation. I know it was linked, but it’s pretty obvious many here did not notice.

    The report on FBI conduct pertaining to the the 2016 election, Trump Campaign, and the Trump Administration has not been released yet.

    Certainly, it was unintentional, but I think this post could really use some clarification, or people might get the wrong impression.

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    • sundance says:

      “A review of FBI and DOJ action prior to the 2016 election”.

      That was the report. It wasn’t *exclusive* to Hillary Clinton. It is linked in the main post.

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      • JL says:

        I’m always impressed at the care you take to read the comments that users post on your site.

        Your response led me take another look at the post, and I think my comment was overly critical. For that, I apologize. It is clear that it was pertaining to conduct prior to the election. I just think it’s important to stress that the report did not investigate FBI conduct as it pertains to the Trump Campaign. This upcoming report (other than the Comey and McCabe reports) will be the first report that deals directly with the actions surrounding the atrocious persecution of Donald Trump and anyone associated with him.

        Thanks for everything you do, and the incredible amount of effort you put into this site.

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      • dwpender says:

        More specifically, it is titled “A Review of Various Actions by the FBI and DOJ in Advance of the 2016 Election.”

        Although I admit I have not reread the Report, my recollection is that NOT among the “Various Actions” reviewed were, inter alia:

        (1) The initiation and handling of Crossfire Hurricane and any other investigations of Trump or his campaign;

        (2) The decisions to seek, as well as the form and content of, ANY FISA warrants; and

        (3) DOJ/FBI (let alone State or IC) efforts to investigate/entrap/spy on Trump or his campaign prior to the formal initiation of Crossfire Hurricane.

        With respect to the MYE, Horowitz found rampant bias, but no “evidence” that impacted decisions made in or the outcome of the investigation.

        IMO the critical question about the forthcoming Report is this: Did the rampant bias (which Horowitz will again find — same cast of characters) impact (or at least could a reasonable factfinder conclude it impacted) any DOJ/FBI actions in deciding to seek, or in the form or content of, the FISA warrant on Carter Page or the applications to continue that warrant in force?

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  37. Beverly says:

    Buck Sexton says that Barr & Co. will NOT indict or convict any of the malefactors: he predicts that they will just whitewash it by saying that these criminals/traitors were just trying to “protect” the government and do what they thought was “right,” so “Mistakes Were Made[TM]”.

    So what was the point of Barr’s speech to the Federalists? He laid out in detail how the left is destroying our system of government and why, yet he doesn’t have the stones to do anything about it?

    Do they all really believe that the CITIZENS’ patience is INFINITE?

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    • JL says:

      I just can’t see anyone giving the speech that Barr just gave, if they had just finished whitewashing an investigation.

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      • Beverly says:

        It is mind-boggling, isn’t it? but Sexton was adamant about it, and he knows Barr personally, and admires him. He believes that at the end of the day, the Establishment ALWAYS protects its own.

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        • JL says:

          How can anyone even say a man that has been outside Government for 26 years is the establishment? Look at what he was saying about the Trump Admin and the Russia investigation before he was nominated for AG. This isn’t a guy that stepped up out of a cushy retirement to “make this all go away”. He’s not here as a “fixer”. He’s here to fix it.

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    • Rob says:

      I don’t think Buck Sexton “knowing Barr personally” is enough reason to think his prediction will be accurate. I believe there will be indictments because I think AG Barr knows whats at stake, based on his own words.

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    • Peppurr says:

      This is crazy. Doing what they thought was right by an admitted communist (for one)? There’s more of a penalty for jay-walking for crying out loud.

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  38. rigst4 says:

    Yeah, sure. The expected criminal referral will either not materialize or it will only be some scapegoat really fat bald guy named Ted who works in personnel who will be charged for not locking a filing cabinet. He’ll plead guilty and get a 4 day suspended sentence. All the administrators in the fbi and justice department will get strongly worded letters in their personnel files telling them to not do bad things anymore. And that is exactly what happened with the not really publicized year-long investigation at the state department where they found a ton of people who illegally handled classified info but nobody suffered any consequences of any kind.

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    • Beverly says:

      The State Department went rogue in a huge way in the 1930s, in Franklin Roosevelt’s ‘reign.’ When they were massively infiltrated by the Communists [see the KGB files and the Venona decrypts].

      They should be dealt with like Rome dealt with Carthage.

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  39. jeans2nd says:

    John Ratcliffe says “The Inspector General is going to have to find that there were things that were done wrong”

    Why? Why does the Inspector General have to find anything?

    Last year the Inspector General most definitely saw political influence, yet the Inspector General said he saw no political influence.
    Why would this report be any different?

    Trey Gowdy would call it a “fact pattern.”
    The Inspector General has a “fact pattern” of not seeing what the Inspector General sees.
    As for me…not holding my breath this time.

    One of (my) life’s rules – Always expect the worst. You’ll never be disappointed.

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    • Despicable Me says:

      I used to always expect the worst and I surely was never disappointed but I was a demoralizing and miserable bugger to be around. I’ve since latched onto this idiom: hope for the best yet prepare for the worst. While I don’t always seem to succeed in putting that into action in all of life’s tricky or controversial situations, it has made me more optimistic in general and more determined to advocate for win-win scenarios in conflicts.

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      • Despicable Me says:

        BTW wasn’t trying to project my feelings of negativity into you. I’m sure you have a much better grip on not staying mired into low expectations than I ever did. I meant that as a compliment but somehow reading it back it doesn’t sound that way.

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  40. mg says:

    Civil War is ugly, but will decide the fate of America. Lets fricking roll and show these prostituted politicians who runs this fricking dick show.

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  41. Retired IG says:

    As another person wrote in the prior comments, I too come to this website TO LEARN. Sundance in these daze, is one of my GREATEST TEACHERS. To post Barr’s speech! Where else would you find that?
    I do love Radcliffe. But to stay the IG report “MUST” do/say/find or anything surprises me though. And I write that very seriously.
    Am ANGRIER than usual that the media I read and watch are pinning their HOPES AND DREAMS on the IG Report. AS IF this this “mere” report is going to “CURE” the political system in this country. Where, hoorah, its money for nothing but a vote, and the chicks (or guys I guess ) for free. The US political system seems to be based on the premise of quid pro quo for many selected politicians.
    I don’t know what teacher taught me this, but when all eyes and the media are focused as they are and have been for YEARS now, on HRC and Trump, there are many, many, backstory events going on. Thinking about UNPOISONED FOOD, WATER, HEAT, etc. a lot. I also don’t keep all of my good wool socks in one drawer.

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    • todayistheday99 says:

      The best teacher is POTUS himself.

      Watch this a see why the deep state shot their wad too soon because he triggered their TDS:

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      • todayistheday99 says:

        BTW, the whole premise is that Slow Joe was an actual political opponent is patently absurd. Anyone vomiting that lie was probably spewing fake Russian collusion propaganda

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        • First of all, strictly speaking,no one is yet Trump’s political opponent in an election that is still a year away. But also, Joe Biden is a man who confessed to high crimes, while laughing and cracking jokes and saying of his boss, “call him.”

          To any reasonable person, that was an obviously impeachable offense. But, until 2016, that was not the way that Washington, DC worked.

          And today, the swamp rats continue to refuse to believe that anything has changed, because other swampers who call themselves Attorneys At Law are reassuring them that “soon, everything will just be back to ‘normal.'” They never took the American People seriously.

          But, no – there is simply too much hard evidence of abuse this time. Two judges and the NSA Director, for example, provided hard evidence and four- or five-digit numbers (which are facts).

          To me, it is critically important that this report come out before something so utterly foolish as “permanent(!) re-authorization of FISA” is allowed to happen. The public needs to see that this law (and, PATRIOT) are critically misguided – well-intentioned(??) though they once might have been – and must now be reworked. The IG team’s ever-methodical research will be critical in this.

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      • President Trump is proving that “government” in our nation can and should conduct every bit of our business without stealing from the people to do so.

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  42. john says:

    I believe IG Horowitz wasnt himself responsible for the executive summary published with the last IG report. The people at DoJ that were, are no longer there or no longer in control of the narrative. Am I wrong in this belief?

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  43. Mike Robinson says:

    Speaking very pragmatically here: “we have built a monster we aren’t able to control.” And this monster – while it may offer desirable and important weapons against a foreign spy or terrorist – is also, by its nature, “a national security issue.” Because, any nation is made up of its citizens (not its government or its government’s minions), and this monster can render any of those citizens naked … without their knowledge or consent.

    In 1978, when FISA was first enacted, none of these capabilities existed nor could be readily contemplated. We simply didn’t like what Richard Nixon had been doing. Then in 2001 we passed PATRIOT…

    In 2019, we are confronted, not only with a President whose obsessive compulsions make “Tricky Dick” look tame, but tens of thousands of illegal searches, the results of which walked right out the door in shirt pockets. We also know from authority that over three million searches are being performed every month … tens of thousands per day(!). If we have that many “foreign enemies,” we have a problem. And, if we don’t, we have an even bigger problem.

    Horowitz’s teams have spent months investigating, and they say they’ve produced over five hundred pages for us to read. (Another problem!) Well, even from this page-count alone, we have a clear sign that FISA should not be renewed, and likely not PATRIOT either.

    Our systems don’t exist for the benefit of nosy government functionaries. They exist for all of us, but they also endanger all of us. We turn to Congress, as our representatives, to be responsible in writing and then periodically reviewing and overseeing these laws. FISA and PATRIOT both need rewriting to match both modern technology and the willful abuses that we have all now witnessed.

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    • sDee says:

      “FISA and PATRIOT both need rewriting to match both modern technology and the willful abuses that we have all now witnessed.”

      Both concepts, put into practice, violate the 4th Amendment. Consider who would re-write them. The same shadow organizations who wrote them in the first place to bypass the 4th Amendment.

      We, meaning the people, need to repeal them and not replace them. Unwarranted search and surveillance of any kind, modern or old-school, violates the essential restrictions upon government named in 4th Amendment. Does not matter if it is “from”. “to” or “about”. Show probable case and get a warrant for surveillance, tracking, or search on any US Citizen.

      Next up….. crackdown of direct government access to private surveillance via “user agreements”. This is prvided by government the aligned monopolies of Google, AT&T, Apple, Facebook, Twitter, Amazon (GAAFTA)

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  44. HellInAHandbasket says:

    A look into the mind of “The Left”, from a well respected conservative Philosopher:

    “There is a need on the left to have an enemy. And the essential attitude of the left is founded in the belief that everything is in the wrong hands, and power is something that “I” ought to have, but somebody else has – so they look around for the things that have power, the old institutions, the things that have inherited wealth, influence, and the old world view that goes with that and they are all demonized, that they are not just an arrival set of beliefs or lifestyles, they are the enemy. The left believes the people on the other side [conservatives] are not just wrong, they are evil and they have the right to destroy them.”
    ~Sir Roger Scruton, Philosopher 2017

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  45. Paul Gallant says:

    Problem – Corrupt Civil Service – Brennan, Comey, Rosenstein, Meuller, Lawyers, Judges Etc.
    Bigger Problem – Corrupt Politicians who approve of the former – Feinstein, Warner, Pelosi, Schiff, McConnell etc.

    Even bigger problem – Globalist power structure – Bush Family, Clinton’s, Corrupt Intelligence Services, Council on Foreign relations, Communists, UN, Obama etc.

    Much Bigger Problem – Globalist Banking Power Elite occultists and The Press, the Fourth Estate.

    Biggest problem – Satan

    Eph: 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

    Eventually Jesus must need return.

    The only thing stopping a one world government is the USA.

    That is why the USA is being attacked from all sides.

    The USA is the only county founded on correct biblical Pauline doctrine of an individual relationship, rights and freedoms between a person and God. No intermediaries.

    Its only weakness is that its leaders, Supreme Courts, Presidents and Politicians must be righteous or it eventually fails.

    On judgement Day Mankind will be without excuse.

    Rom 1:16-27 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. (17) For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

    (18) For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

    (19) Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

    (20) For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

    (21) Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

    (22) Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

    (23) And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

    (24) Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

    (25) Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    (26) For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

    (27) And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

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  46. Flight93Gal says:

    I have tremendous respect for Ratcliffe but his choice of words is revealing: “…done something wrong”… (Yes, many who read here would substitute “wrong” for “potentially criminal”.)

    Meanwhile, while Dimms up the ante with another indictment (Stone) our side counters with a speech (Barr).

    Even though the speech outlines how the Legislative branch is intentionally impeding the Executive branch and the will of the people, it rings somewhat hollow.

    One side acts, the other side talks. Telling, indeed.

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  47. hillbillysailor says:

    I am such a pessimist any more. I look at Kentucky and Louisiana elections. Republicans did well, except at top positions. I keep wondering if these elections were templates for vote tampering? I hope Republicans are looking closely at the electronic voting algorithms and other such stuff to make sure any and all irregularities are addressed.

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