The “Coup” Against a Sitting U.S. President Became Official on October 29th, 2019…

The word “coup” shifted to a new level of formalized meaning last week when members of the political resistance showed up to remove President Trump wearing military uniforms.

Not only did U.S. military leadership remain silent to the optics and purpose, but in the testimony of Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman he admits to giving instructions to ignore the instructions from a sitting United States President.

In the absence of push-back from the Joint Chiefs, from this moment forth, the impression is tacit U.S. military support for the Vindman objective.

Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman, a National Security Council official, testified before congressional committees conducting an impeachment inquiry on October 29, wearing a full military uniform.

To date there has been no visible comment from U.S. military sanctioning Lt. Col. Vindman for his decision; or correcting the impression represented by Vindman’s military appearance.  The willful blindness is concerning, but it gets much worse.

Beyond the debate about the optics of the “coup“, within the testimony of Lt. Col Vindman, the witness readily admits to understanding the officially established policy of the President of The United States (an agreement between President Trump and President Zelenskyy), and stunningly admits that two weeks later he was giving countermanding instructions to his Ukrainian counterpart to ignore President Trump’s policies.

The coup against President Donald Trump went from soft, to hard.  Consider…

The testimony from Lt. Col. Vindman is available here. [SCRIBD pdf below]

Borrowing from Roscoe B Davis, here are some highlights:

Representative John Ratcliffe begins deconstructing Lt. Col Vindman, while his arrogant attorneys begin trying to interfere with the questioning.

This next section is very interesting, and very important.

Congressman John Ratcliffe begins questioning Vindman from the perspective of an Article 92 violation, coupled with an Article 88 violation.  President Trump, is Lt. Col Vindman’s superior.  President Trump sets the foreign policy. 

Two weeks after President Trump has established an agreement with Ukraine President Zelenskyy, and established the policy direction therein, Lt. Col. Vindman is now giving contrary instructions to the Ukranian government.  Vindman’s lawyer recognizes where the questioning is going and goes absolutely bananas:

Here’s the Full Transcript:


A reminder from the CIA “whistleblower” attorney.  January 30th, 2017, ten days after President Trump’s inauguration:  the “coup has started”


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850 Responses to The “Coup” Against a Sitting U.S. President Became Official on October 29th, 2019…

  1. Free Speech says:

    Dave Hodges keeps talking about the millions of UN peacekeeping troops already here, being hidden away in abandoned military bases or snuck in as Chinese solar workers by Dianne Feinstein’s husband. I think James Mattis has shown his true colors since he left, and wouldn’t be surprised if he played a part in letting them in. May these traitors choke on their filthy Lockheed-Martin bribes. DON’T go to any FEMA camps. Resist. If Civil War jumps off, patriots and our families will be going there to be exterminated.

    “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
    ― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956

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    • Dave Hodges is an extremist. He claimed FEMA and UN troops were occupying a former Prisoner of War camp here in my state. I live less than five miles from that place so I drove over and took a look. Sorry to burst your bubble but there are NO FEMA nor UN anything there. The POW camp has been turned into a Boy Scout “outward bound” type of facility that is used primarily during summer and occasionally for winter camping. There is an office, the barracks have been converted into dorm rooms, the main building is a mess hall, laundry, leisure game rooms, etc. and a drive through the grounds shows NO INFILTRATION OF MILITARY TROOPS WAITING TO TAKE CONTROL OF ANYTHING.

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      • Free Speech says:

        Thanks for the info. These kind of claims need to be investigated and not just taken for someone’s word from their alleged ‘sources’.


  2. apfelcobbler says:

    Vindman apparently had a phone conversation with his equivalent Chief Attache (always a spy post) – and that conversation would have been recorded by NSA.

    Ratcliffe is superb.

    The coup has been in place for four years … will they up the ante to full insurrection when names start being named?

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    • Kevin Mark Bauer says:

      I believe these people are being allowed to do their thing on purpose.The Deep State Rats are beginning to panic and more of them are coming out of the woodwork and identifying themselves. Also , the better to collect incriminating evidence for future trials. All those opposed to the President’s Agenda will soon be rounded up. They are being given the rope necessary to hang themselves.
      Peace Y

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      • Daniel says:

        I would say this is closer to the truth. Enough type must be given to hang them all… Especially Clinton, Obama and the rest. The facade has long since been removed. The people like us [+2] can see it for what it is. Many others are uncomfortably unsure [+1] of what is going on. Meanwhile many terms to believe the hate and anger directed at Trump is deserved [0,-1] and the far left [-2 to -4] simply wants Trump out BAMN (by any means necessary).

        [The +2,+1,0,-1,etc are numbers on a spectrum]

        Are those within +2 to 0 enough to overcome those within -1 and beyond? I think yes but we must STAND and be counted. There are far too many who actually believe what the media spews. We have to speak and be heard.

        I’m truly sick of this.


    • Jimmy Jack says:

      I suspect they might. Cornered rats are dangerous.

      Liked by 4 people

    • 22denizen says:

      I can’t believe the arrogance of these plotters.

      Liked by 10 people

      • LKAinLA says:

        The arrogance is amazing to watch. The fact Benjamin Witts (plotter) has a book called The Unmaking of the President coming out in January 2020 tells me he is not worried about repercussions from these illegal acts.

        Liked by 6 people

      • VoteAllIncumbantsOut says:

        We might want to see where we are headed in this country.

        Great documentary on Ukraine and color revolutions and how they get the masses fired up. Nice history of events leading up to the Maiden Square.


        • This is a biased and ignorant “documentary”.

          It skips “Golodomor”, the Soviet Politburo-imposed famine, designed to soften up Ukraine for Communist rule and collectivization. It says the Ukrainians welcomed the invading Germans as liberators in 1941 but it doesn’t ask why? It’s hard to tell if it’s just ignorance, lazy leftist bias or both to skip over such an obvious question.

          It pushes historically ignorant propaganda like

          “The peace after the Second World War was short-lived. the United States and the Soviet Union, nations who allied together along with England to defeat the Nazis, tragically became foes, as the Cold War began.”

          Tragically? Really? Opposing world-wide Communist takeover was tragic? Reagan was wrong to win the Cold War?

          It sounds like a lazy undergrad with a few Marxism lectures under his belt wrote the narration.

          The Ukraine history is complex and the current situation is not easy to understand. This bullshit “documentary” doesn’t help.

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        • This is a biased and ignorant “documentary”.

          It skips “Golodomor”, the Soviet Politburo-imposed famine, designed to soften up Ukraine for Communist rule and collectivization. It says the Ukrainians welcomed the invading Germans as liberators in 1941 but it doesn’t ask why? It’s hard to tell if it’s just ignorance, lazy leftist bias or both to skip over such an obvious question.

          It pushes historically ignorant propaganda like

          “The peace after the Second World War was short-lived. the United States and the Soviet Union, nations who allied together along with England to defeat the Nazis, tragically became foes, as the Cold War began.”

          Tragically? Really? Opposing world-wide Communist takeover was tragic? Reagan was wrong to win the Cold War?

          It sounds like a lazy undergrad with a few Marxism lectures under his belt wrote the narration.

          The Ukraine history is complex and the current situation is not easy to understand. This bullshit “documentary” doesn’t help.


    • sturmudgeon says:

      apfelcobbler: Do not know just where to post this, but: Amidst all of this corruption we are seeing exposed… there is some hope indicated by SOME in Law Enforcement.. to whit:

      “Tennessee: Entire Police Department Eliminated After Good Cops Refuse To Enforce Quota System Against Citizens”

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  3. MLK says:

    This criticism is of Graham is completely wrongheaded in my view:

    As I long implored re Mueller/Weissmann, it was they go first. The same holds with this gambit. We need he House Democrats to fire all of their impeachment bullets before Horowitz/Barr/Durham go.

    Note a very important tidbit in the following video that seems to have passed without notice:

    (@ 5:20): Graham: “Once he (Horowitz) tells the story, I’ll follow up connecting the dots to the whistleblower if there’s any dots to be connected.”

    I know that doesn’t sound like a big deal but it is because we know there are many.

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    • yy4u says:

      “Once he (Horowitz) tells the story, I’ll follow up connecting the dots…”

      Don’t hold your breath. Horowitz has been telling this story for how many years now? And the first story he told was to say that even in the face of text messages between Strzok and Page that they had an insurance policy in case the ogre Trump got elected, didn’t constitute bias.

      My guess is swamp denizen Horowitz is waiting to see whether the insurance policy (impeachment) takes out the president so he can save his beloved swamp. I’d love to underestimate this man, but so far I haven’t. Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn now and then. So far Horowitz has only been great at postponing his report. Again, I’d love to be underestimating this man.

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      • zimbalistjunior says:

        i believe though not sure that horowitz actually said that there is no evidence that any bias (by strzok et al) affected decision making
        which could be a sneaky hint to the good guys: that no matter if strzok was biased or not, it would not have made a difference..the fix was in—above his pay grade–it had been decided ab initio that hrc would be exonerated
        and that was the real malfeasance/obstruction of justice—made by lynch comey and obama–that no matter what she would skate

        lets wait to judge horowitz till this next report comes out..theres a chance hes the only honest guy out there in doj land


      • Jimmy Jack says:

        I think your analysis rings most true, sounds the most likely.


      • beach lover says:

        Am I the only one that thinks Horowitz may have changed his opinion as he got further into the investigation? His first report was on the “ protect the department” side, but now the evidence is mounting that there really was a coup…first using Mueller, now using the whistleblower.

        The fact he seems to be pushing the report out means new info is coming to him that he has to deal with.

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      • PAIN TIME says:

        Horowitz submitted his report moths ago and it is being used by the DOJ and Durham for his now expanded criminal probe.

        Liked by 1 person

    • Garavaglia says:

      What report..up to now..has resulted in indictments? Seems to me the reports just slithered away.

      Liked by 2 people

    • Basil says:

      I understand your thinking, but since they are using fabrications to power impeachment, the flaw in your strategy is that they WILL NEVER run out of fiction to throw at POTUS.

      Liked by 4 people

    • Ray Runge says:

      MLK, Lindsey has his hands deep in the pockets of the international foreign aide / arms sales laundromat. When and if that veil is lifted, Lindsey will be exposed as will his deceased buddy, McStain.

      Absolutely no incentive for Lindsey to stir the Ukrainian hornets nest.

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    • Shyster says:

      Why let them “shoot all their bullets” and completely soil and tarnish the president’s reputation before the moderates and undecided voters when you can attack now and dismantle their narrative as it is being built. What an asinine strategy. Do nothing and let the left inflict a mortal wound on our POTUS and our country AND THEN HOPE you can rehabilitate it all by finally calling a few witnesses. I know, let the other side win the battle AND THEN fight back. WTF?

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      • MLK says:

        You’re confused, I never even implied doing nothing. Republicans can and should fight impeachment every step of the way, both in Congress and the courts.

        But Horowitz/Barr/Durham waiting until after House Democrats have either voted on specific Articles of Impeachment or abandoned the effort constitutes enormous risk to Democrats — their House majority in particular.


      • Baby El says:

        Precisely!! They’ve been given enough rope to rig a Boston Whaler!!

        Enough already.

        Liked by 1 person

      • CM-TX says:

        Couldn’t AGREE more. It’s beyond embarrassing at this point. So tired of countless crimes & corruption being exposed– followed by ZERO consequences. We get it! Those who don’t, NEVER will. Do something about it!

        Unfortunately, it’s only become clearer– our side has absolutely NO OFFENSIVE Strategy. It is an ongoing Game of always playing DEFENSE, in a monotonous ShitShow of Leftist Criminal Activity– where there are NO CONSEQUENCES: “Mr. Trump Goes to Washington… (‘It’s a Trap!’)”.

        Meanwhile as @Basil succinctly put it: “They WILL NEVER run out of fiction to throw at The President.”
        And why not 🤷🏻‍♀️… apparently both his hands are tied behind his back, & they know he is powerless to do anything about it. (That’s NOT his fault, it just is.)

        So the CRIMINALS as Enemies of The State embedded t/o our Gov, continue to CONSPIRE their fake investigations. They utilize each phase to corner him– giving the impression he is powerless to intervene w/o them crying “OBSTRUCTION”. His advisers steer him away from exposing. Rinse & Repeat.

        Back in reality there’s NEVER any crime, so without BASIS. There’s NOT even PROBABLE CAUSE to warrant their suspicion (beyond OrangeManBad).

        So were he to ever call them out by EXPOSING that FRAUD, it could NEVER be construed as REAL “Obstruction.”
        Even Borderline-Barr pointed this out in his earliest interrogation before Congress…
        (Paraphrasing): “For there to be Obstruction of Justice, there MUST be an underlying CRIME. No crime, NO Obstruction.”

        That doesn’t change b/c some hacks with questionable law degrees, lacking in basic reading comprehension– believe the Law is subjective! So rely upon feel-good interpretations, or whatever’s convenient in distortions.

        Enough already! Game-OVER! Somebody sound the alarm, signal the SOS that appears to be needed.
        Dragging this out only leads to very bad things. Time is not infinite for anyone.

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      • Boots says:

        Shyster said: What an asinine strategy. Do nothing and let the left inflict a mortal wound on our POTUS and our country AND THEN HOPE you can rehabilitate it all by finally calling a few witnesses.
        Shyster is RIGHT! There’s a reason boxers go to the body. Countless body shots weaken the opponent, setting up the head shot that ends the fight.

        R’s aren’t so much stupid as they are double agents working for the socialists to dismantle the Constitution and kill off the Republic.


      • abel says:

        amen shyster. can’t say it enough. the shit in one hand and hope in another method is not a strategy. we’re being destroyed at a fairly rapid pace now. the military is open about it?! i dont really need some big reveal to show me who the traitor is or when some govt wonk is an obamaite and out to kill us. i kinda get it naturally. It might take a year tops to fire everyone trying to kill me, or hell even subvert me. if you are military and you disobey….well that might take a month to fix…


    • Amy2 says:

      Great job Maria!!


    • Betty says:

      “This criticism is of Graham is completely wrongheaded in my view.’
      Yet, here we are a week later and closer to losing the best President We The People have ever had.
      All Lindsey Graham is suckering us, same with Mitch McConnell, when the moment of no return arrives they will knife President Trump and We The People in the back – and expect us to just get over it, to move on, to let the nation heal.

      And every day we sit here with out making them a promise makes them bolder.


  4. doofusdawg says:

    I think the biggest news of today is Lindsey suggesting that Charlie might be part of the small group or task force created by Brennan to get Trump. We already know many of the other participants. The timing of Lindsey’s comments today given his recent meeting with Barr suggests that Barr may have disclosed this to Lindsey.

    Can’t wait to see Sundance comments on this and other news today.

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    • yy4u says:

      Charlie might want to check his insurance policy in case he gets a sudden desire to Epstein himself. Nor should he get on an airplane like Ron Brown did. And definitely not go out on his apartment balcony lest he fall off like Whitewater investigator Jon Parnall Walker.

      Or, he might just be getting set up to take the fall along with a few other expendables (Clapper, Strzok, Page, Preistak to name a few possibilities). Colonel Vindman probably already has tickets for Europe — maybe even a job in MI6 which in 2016 specialized in spying on Donald Trump.

      Give it up on Clinton and Obama. Accept that they are above the law. Nothing EVER is going to happen to either one of them, Clinton because she has dirt on everybody in DC and Obama because he is the first black president. The blacks will burn the country down before they’ll let the first black president be anything but a national hero.

      McCabe, Brennan and Comey know too much so can threaten to blab like James MacDougal supposedly was doing. But if they decide to blab, they’d better be sure they have a clean bill of health else they might have a heart attack in solitary confinement like MacDougal did. Jim’s ex wife Susan was smarter. She kept quiet and served her time.
      As did Webb Hubbell who made quite a good living in the slammer thanks to the “consulting” work he did for a few of the Clintons’ donors.


      • Sportyclays says:

        The black population is 12%. Who the hell going to lead the burning? Jay Z? Colin Kaepernick? Ta Nehisi Coates? That insurrection would likely be over in a weekend, particularly if one can demonstrate Obama knew what the Clintons were up to with kids in Haiti.

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        • Yy4u says:

          Burn the countryndown was analogy. You obviously werent around in the 60s when Martin Luther King was assassinated. Riots in so many cities. Fires. Near anarchy.

          You saw what happened in Ferguson and Baltimore and Michael Brown and the man in Baltimore–forget his name–were small time criminals. President Obama stands as the symbol of success to our black brothers and sisters. Believe me he is above the law.

          Hillary is more complicated. Sure the Dems are sick on the Clintons, but don’t think the Clintons only have dirt on Republicans. Remember Filegate? Raw FBI files on a lot of people. Betcha not all of them were Repubs. Explain John Roberts’s ruling on ObamaCare. Explain the fecklessness of Repub politicians. Explain how she got away with Benghazi. Explain how she got away with sending classified emails over an insecure server. She lied under oath repeatedly. Nobody prosecutes. That is above the law.

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      • Jimmy Jack says:

        I must have forgotten Hubbell did time.

        I think your concept on why Obama won’t be busted is very likely but what’s really important in taking him down is to stop Michelle and this incredible apparatus they have built to further their agenda. It’s truly incredible if you step back and look at the systems they’ve created in under a decade including massive propaganda outlets they can virtually control openly.

        The Clintons however are now vulnerable. Most of whoever they have dirt on the Obamas also have dirt on and the Obamas would have a vested interest in protecting them for their own use. Plus the left wing party is starting to really push to out the Clintons. There’s only two reasons DeBlasio would suggest Epstein didn’t kill himself. Because Epstein is still alive and they want people stuck on the false binary or murder vs suicide. Or DeBlasio et al are looking to get the Clintons out told their way for good. Both seem equally likely to me at this point but I hedge slightly towards the latter. And that itself may be a false binary. He could be alive AND the Clintons would be removed. That actually might be most likely.

        We are living in clown world.


        • BitchyPants says:

          There are so many reasons I believe Epstein is still alive:
          Why would he fly to the US knowing he would be arrested?
          When you have that much $$ you can find a way out
          All of his fortune was put into a trust a few days before his “death”
          No DNA was ever provided to prove it was actually him wheeled out
          Dr. Baden was hired by Epstein’s brother to do an investigation
          Not one person is allowed to approach the Island – but there are people there
          You would never even recognize him I’m guessing…
          No one will ever really know
          This was all a hoax to clear Epstein and try and get President Trump


  5. California Joe says:

    What I don’t understand is why are there never any consequences to these people for the crimes and misconduct as high placed officials they have committed over the past three years??? It’s not the federal government that I worked for. Misconduct was not tolerated and dealt with quickly and severely!


    • Sharon says:

      There are no consequences because those who have the authority and responsibility to impose consequences do not wish to do so.

      Liked by 2 people

      • mikeyboo says:

        Sharon I agree those who have authority and responsibility do not wish to hold their “friends” accountable-They are also AFRAID to to hold their “friends” accountable as they well know the murderous proclivities of their “friends:”.


  6. beach lover says:

    interesting.. Molly Hemingway said the WB name this morning on Fox. Probably the first time his name has been spoken in the media on TV. Good.. let heads explode. Let them go after Molly for it!!

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  7. sundance says:

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  8. Mac says:

    Vindman is a military officer, serving as an advisor to the NSC. He is not a civilian. So, for him, the rules are different. Here is how being a military officer works, in the US military, and in the US Army in particular..

    There are two things that a military officer has to consider. The first is policy. The civilian hierarchy set policy. An example of this is Rules of Engagement. In Afghanistan, there was a ROE, a policy, that aerial weaponry could not be employed, even with clear evidence of enemy action and identity [they were shooting at US troops] without direct authorization from officers of a certain rank. Policy is considered binding. The second is direct orders. A direct order is an order, from a superior to a subordinate, instructing that subordinate to take or suspend a particular action or to confer authority, to the subordinate, to make decisions in certain areas on his own initiative. If an order runs counter to established policy, then the officer has to make a decision on whether the person giving that order has the authority to countermand set policy.

    What Vindman did, in his testimony, is state that he willfully disregarded the policy established by his Commander In Chief, of which he was personally aware, when he told his Ukrainian counter part to stay out of US political affairs and not cooperate with Giuliani. He countermanded this policy unilaterally. He did this without establishing any authority to do so. This is a direct violation of the provisions of the UMCJ and is the reason why his attorney was going nuts. He could be subject to court marshal.

    He would have been on solid legal ground if he had reported his concerns up the chain of commander of the organization of which he was a part, the NSC. He could advise them that he, in good conscience, not follow the policy in question and ask to be relieved [military officers can not simply quit an assignment]. He could have requested that he be reassigned through the Army chain of command. However, he did none of this Instead, he unilaterally decided, without supporting authorization, to act directly against the policy established by the CINC in this matter.

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    • emeraldcoaster says:

      It says a lot if Secretary Esper and GEN Milley weren’t troubled by LTC Vindman’s comments. Also, other’s have posted that discussions between the Vindman brothers were okay. Only if lawyer-twin had a need to know as well as the appropriate clearance.

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    • LouisianaTeaRose says:

      Hey MAC….

      Maybe he was set to be the fall guy for the coup.


    • LouisianaTeaRose says:

      Hey MAC….

      Maybe he was set to be the fall guy for the coup.


    • Amy2 says:

      Had he gone up the chain of command, he would have been told “no,” so he didn’t go that route. I think that is what Rep. Ratcliffe was getting at, and I believe he delivered! Delicious.

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    • MA says:

      OANN’s Alex Salvi has reported that National Security Advisor O’Brien stated Vindman will be removed from his post the the National Security Council.


  9. Dad's son says:

    I urge all Treepers to carefully read, or re-read, the Ratcliffe-Vindman transcript, as posted by Sundance, and say it to yourself in your heads to simulate the absent audio.

    Given that we do not have video, this is what we have. Ratcliffe – over and through the interference and interruptions of Vindman’s lawyer (Volkov) – doggedly boxed Vindman into the position that Vindman had:

    1. No legal expertise, and
    2. Was making a POLITICAL judgment that Pres. Trump’s corruption discussion with the Ukrainian president was improper, rather than a LEGAL judgment.

    In my opinion, Ratcliffe destroyed (“impeached,” in a legal sense) the validity of Vindman’s testimony.

    I cannot recall – was it Rep. Mark Meadows who, last week, said that Rep. Ratcliffe had “destroyed” the anti-Trump witness? If so, then is the Ratcliffe-Vindman exchange that to which Meadows (or someone else than Meadows) was referring?

    Again, I hope all commentators here carefully read the Ratcliffe-Vindman exchange, provided for examination by Sundance. What Rep. Ratcliffe did was to establish that Vindman, without qualification, was jumping the military chain-of-command, and substituting his personal judgment over that of the Commander-in-Chief.

    In the real world, this would be laughed out of the building, and Vindman would be up for a Court Martial.

    So, the question really is: WHO PUT VINDMAN UP TO THIS?

    Whoever did this is guilty, at the very least of sedition against the Constitution.and – by extension – the Republic.

    Pull on the Vindman lanyard, and I think that things begin to come unfurled. As the sheets and ropes unfurl, examine the snarls carefully, and identify the personal signatures of the riggers’ knots which they tied over the last four years as they sabotaged the sheets against the elected President.

    Or, instead of a naval metaphor, let’s fo 82nd Airborne:


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  10. Lieutenant Colonels are sometimes called “Light Birds” a sometimes derogatorily term for those like LTC Vindman. He can sit on my M6 at any time of his choosing…………………

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  11. k4jjj says:

    The President should re-assign Vindman to Afghanistan and order him to proudly circulate on foot among the Afghan people in their cities and villages in his U.S. Army dress uniform.

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  12. Texian says:

    There are two governments..

    There are two militaries..

    The decade where they started.. And now the decade where it will end..


    The Grand Theater.. The Main Act..

    Battlefield.. America.. Fourth Turning..

    We have now come full circle.. And the song remains the same..

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  13. When SD says the coup has gone from soft to hard, that is the scariest thing I can imagine reading. All I really know to do right now is continue praying.

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  14. Sepp says:

    This article by George Eliason is about Alexander Vindman and some of the Diaspora Ukrainians who are driving sedition.


    • John Good says:

      Thank You for this fascinating & eye-opening article! I was always lead to believe that Hillary Clinton & Obama started this “coup” to remove President Trump, but this writer states that the “coup” was started by two Ukrainian sisters & Vindman is part of this movement.
      IF this turns put to be true, then Donald J. Trump is even in more danger than anyone here ever thought!
      Scary times for us who won’t back down from anything even remotely illegal!
      My Latvian parents escaped to Canada & my grandmother settled in Quakertown PA to get away from all the Socialism, Facism & Communism in WW2 Europe & NOW it is here in NA!
      BTW, I am here in Florida for the winter again, because I was treated so nicely by the people here last winter, that I decided to come back again.


  15. Rajabesar says:

    As ex Army Major I am particularly distressed by the optics of a Lt Col appearing in uniform to support the coup. Dress uniform to boot. He (and the coup plotters) thinks more impressive that way. The optics of this were clearly intended to imply that the U.S. Army is backing his testimony.
    If none of his military superiors correct these optics and his self damning testimony with a proper rebuke it is very troubling.
    Here is hoping the Army is really still on the side of its’ Commander in Chief. Some 2 or 3 star (or even higher—joint chiefs?) heads should roll very quickly.

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    • Debra says:

      Personally, I thought his dress uniform looked at least three double cheeseburgers too small — lots of people eat too much when under stress. What size is his ‘identical’ twin right now . . .?

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      • czarowniczy says:

        He’s probably someone’s useful tool. I can’t fault his superhero uniform fit, we had a lot of specialists who were…less than svelte…whose skills were not found in active duty and were sorely needed. We also had active duty who were assigned to joint commands (those hosted by the Air Force were particularly bad) who tended to let things slip.

        I’d like to know not only to which unit he’s assigned but who his cohorts are. Just because someone in the Beltway may be assigned to the’154th Tactical Dumpster Reconditioning Battalion (Airborne)’ doesn’t mean that’s who s/he’s actually working with. He has cover somewhere.


      • I thought exactly the same thing Debra.

        He looked soft and doughy, and he wore the uniform uncomfortably like he was playing dress up.

        He should be dinged by the military for this alone ( being so far out of shape).

        Most Military I know are in good shape physically.

        This guy hasn’t seen the inside of a gym in years.


    • czarowniczy says:

      Flag officers are generally (not intended) the creme de la creme of those officers who’ve played the political game. With the total number somewhere just north of 650 it’s a battle to claw between stars and I watched two guttings right close up.

      I watched the promotion process under Clinton and those whom survived the early retirements, buyouts and just plain ‘don’t let the door hit you in the ass’ processes had a goodly share of politicians who knew which way the wind blew. Ditto under Obama – I retired in ’07 but friends still in told me about the uncomfortable shifts in the culture as his regime rolled on.

      When I worked the Beltway I noticed that certain groups of officers as well as higher-level enlisted and warrants tended to migrate to the DC area – full time assignments to the offices of Representatives or Senators (THAT was the honey pot) were particularly sought after. But then there were and are politician in all of the branches and all of the ranks, war usually thins their numbers but, like roaches, you can never get rid of them completely.

      I think he testified in uniform to use the fruit salad/farts and darts to not only lend credence to his spiel but deflect away from the idea that he was/is an embarrassment to the military. I believe that he’s maybe going to get one more ‘up’ but is also going to get the hint that he should just stay long enough to ensure his retirement at current grade and then fade into the sunset. Maybe he hasn’t learned that politicians use turncoats but, as they’ve turned against their brothers once they can’t be trusted at all.

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    • mikeyboo says:

      I thought he looked ridiculous in that uniform with his chubby little baby face- like a child wearing clothes of a grownup. (and it was around time for Halloween). Is this the face of our modern American gladiator?

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    • Amy2 says:

      I like how he had to keep saying “I’m not an attorney…” so that makes you not culpable because only attorneys have to act on the law? Feelings don’t cut it.

      Liked by 1 person

      • Rajabesar says:

        He looked like a Honda Civic wishing he was a real boy.

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      • OlderAndWiser says:

        Not just that he wasn’t an attorney, but at one point, he said that he didn’t know if the President had the right to set foreign policy!!!!
        One part of me just wants to say “what a doofus” but the other part reminds me that this is what our country’s education system has descended to. And shows like “24” (which I loved) don’t help – everyone thinks they are the true heroes!

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    • mugzey302 says:

      If his superiors did jack him up for this, how would we hear about it??


    • Dee says:

      Perhaps it’s time to call military leaders and let them know how you feel and this is not lost on Americans who are watching very carefully. And ask them thier take on the situation at hand and ask directly who they support.


  16. CM-TX says:


    Just in case this didn’t post further back…

    I definitely agree his loyalties are NOT aligned with the USA.

    I also find it extremely concerning re. wearing his uniform… that the superior he answers to is a CIVILIAN in the NSC. That’s not how the Military/Chain-of-command works!

    Adding to this, he directly disregarded the CIC on policy, w/o a second thought– something tells me there’s at least some faction of the US Military that is ROGUE– as in operating OUTSIDE of our longstanding military constraints. And definitely NOT working for America’s interest.

    Further evidence:
    some interesting tidbits from Heavy. Com (shared earlier). The supposed sketchy online bio is a HUGE red-flag!
    Conflict of interest… his older brother’s (if he exists, or the supposed twin) having BIG business dealing$ “overseas”, & in that very same area.

    Also the character assessment by the noble veteran who came forward– re. Vin’s loyalty seeming in question.

    This guy is a PATHETIC case of a double agent bordering on espionage, or a TRAITOR at best.

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  17. dustahl says:

    Biggest hope, that their are powerful people backing President Trump in the IC and Military that are waiting patiently to make a move.
    Biggest fear that its not so… then it would be up to citizens armed intervention. not sure that is organized enough, either

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  18. pucecatt says:

    This guy is repulsive , I’m having a hard time wrapping my head around all this nonsense , who do these people think they are ? Who gave them the green light ? Truly disgusted right now .

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    • Dee says:

      I am so far past disgusted, I am ready to set my path to DeeCee and make my last stand. Armed of course, we didn’t do that last time but they were warned next time we would be. Tea party anyone? That was only Obama care and we were that mad to show up, but losing our country we bitch at the keyboard. We are so fooked up, maybe we deserve to lose it all.


  19. Ned Zeppelin says:

    Vindman strikes me as a hopeless nerd. He consumes the virus-infected NSC Kool-aid and imagines himself an important player in events. He is not. Plus, the uniform he wears says insubordination, or “resisting,” is not an option, unlike for civilians. He is probably not worth the trouble to prosecute militarily – yet.

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  20. Mr. T. says:

    That Light Colonel needs to be court-martialed, striped of his rank, forfeiture of pay, sentenced to hard labor at For Leavenworth, and then given a dishonorable discharge. There is no place anywhere in our military ranks, for a traitor who thinks he has the right to overrule the authority of his commander in chief.

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  21. mylabs5 says:

    So I posted earlier about the bad apples in the Pentagon (active and retired). I mentioned Kelly, McMasters, McCraven. So now we know who Rod Rosenstein went to and involved in the coup.
    Nikki Haley just went on CBS this morning and said that Tillerson and KELLY tried to recruit her to undermine the president.
    That’s sedition…and I wager Mattis was part of that DoD cabal.
    So there you have it. The COS of the POTUS committed sedition and possibly treason.
    I had heard things about him years ago when he ran SoCom. Never trusted him from what I heard. So it doesn’t surprise me now.

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    • Fringe Dweller says:

      Her statements can, and will, be used against her in a court of law.

      Liked by 1 person

      • CTH Fan says:

        How so Fringe Dweller? Are you by chance insinuating she will be sued by these plotters? Are you actually one of the people she mentions and are you threatening her with litigation.

        Just curious, not accusing, just asking.


    • Lulu says:

      Kelly is a POS that couldn’t contain his revulsion for the President or the 63 million Americans that elected him. Think Kelly had anything but revulsion for the unwashed rank and file under his command?


      • mylabs5 says:

        I posted this before, but I think it’s good to post this again.
        There is a syndrome called the General’s Disease. It’s well known in military. What you hit 1 star all of a sudden you are surrounded by yes men. They kiss butt, then turn around and do what they want. Kelly did a huge disservice to Trump. He had the General’s disease and expected Trump to dance to his tune.
        I knew he was gone when he went against Ivanka and Jared instead of working with them (he initially banned them from the Oval). That told me he was 1. not going to take orders and 2. he was not very bright.
        Never, never, never screw with someone’s family especially when that someone is the POTUS and had his kids on assignment.
        I’ve spoken with those serving under Kelly. They all have said he changed after the combat death of his son.
        He messed up SoCom. He was out of his league there. But once you start up the daisy chain in the Pentagon you stop being logistical and become political.
        I’m sorry for his loss, but that does not excuse what he did.

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  22. California Joe says:

    It be a surprise to see Vindman, his brother and Charlie were involved with the set-up of the Russian collusion hoax and the Mueller witch hunt. I think they came forward because they know that they’re all being indicted. Otherwise, none of them would have stuck their neck out!


  23. rustybritches says:

    I am not sure why the President can not call these people into his office and tell them all that they are a traitor and its time for them to be arrested and charged and that should help to end some of this nonsense Nikki Haley should have been one that ran straight to The President he trusted her as his Ambassador to the UN and this again proves She is not anyone this country should even consider AS PRESIDENT SHE HELD BACK VITAL EVIDENCE AND SHAME THE HELL ON HER AND SHAME THE HELL ON THE MILITARY FOR SAYING NOTHING ABOUT THIS VINDMAN TRAITOR.
    This is totally scary and should be dealt with now and not later when they might just hurt the President more than they are now.. Traitors all of them included Nancy Polosi and Shifty Shift Where Are the Military Guard Oh that’s right they belong now to the Coup

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  24. OldSkool says:

    Remember, Obama purged the military of roughly 500 top level officers that thought protecting our country was more important an endeavor than having women and transgenders in combat. What President Trump inherited is pathetic military leadership and I had hoped he had Erik Prince advising him on personnel, but apparently not. SD’s observation about no command response to that Vindman clown’s insubordination also blows up the hope of the “military tribunals” that had been fantasized about months ago to deal with the traitors, as our justice system has been compromised. It is my observation that the President is acting in the face of this onslaught as though he has an ace up his sleeve, I pray that he does.

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    • islandpalmtrees says:

      You mean something like this:

      Executive Order #13818
      On December 21st, 2017, Donald Trump signed the ‘Executive Order Blocking the Property of Persons Involved in Serious Human Rights Abuse or Corruption.’ Those well-versed in the crimes and manipulations of the Deep State find, in this document, an incontestable effort to seek to reveal and prosecute the kinds of crimes that have been ignored or hidden from public view by previous administrations. As Dr. Michael Salla notes in his article,

      While the mainstream media has largely ignored Trump’s Executive Order, the alternative media has been paying close attention. Many have noted the Executive Order is far more significant than what it appears to be on the surface. Rather than just freezing the financial resources of foreign citizens linked to the Russian sphere of influence, as it superficially appears to do, it is really targeted at members of the “Deep State” (aka Cabal or Illuminati) that have been involved in human trafficking, pedophilia and systemic corruption all over the planet.

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  25. Atomic Hillbilly says:

    I started wondering if the military has joined the coup just as soon as this vindman character showed up in uniform…..

    The optics look really bad.

    The military needs to say something one way or another.

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  26. islandpalmtrees says:

    What else could this mean?

    I believe, the President is going to give the coup plotters an opportunity to surrender per the indictments. Failing their willingness to accept their fate. He will send in the troops, so to speak.

    “I Caught the Swamp. I Caught Them All. Let’s See What Happens!”

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    • Margaret Berger says:

      The uniform that little v showed up in was dress blues. That is the equivalent of a tuxedo . If a uniform was called for it should have been office attire, green.

      My father was a battalion commander in the sixties. I went to visit his head quarters. My father’s photo was on the wall. Next to Dad’s photo was the brigade commander. Next to his photo was the commander of USERA and on and on stopping at President John F. Kennedy. I was so impressed that my father worked for the President. It is called the chain of command. It does not end at the Secretary of State, or the any where else. It ends with the commander in chief, the dully elected President of the United States. An individual who has been chosen by our electoral process. I didn’t vote for kelly, tillerson, vindman, mcmasters, et al. They are thieves who have tried to steal my vote and enslave me to the globalists. They were not trying to save America. They are now trying to save their worthless hides and wrap their treason in good intentions. My father also used to say, “The road to hell is paved with people of good intentions.” Let us hope that is true.

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      • OldParatrooper says:

        Maggie, you are about two uniform changes behind. The Army switched from AG 344 Greens to Blues as the Class A uniform years back, and is contemplating replacing the Blues with World War Two’s Pinks and Greens. The current Chief of Staff wears the new Pinks and Greens as part of the “test”.

        Rep Ratcliffe was working towards getting Vindman to commit to either a yes or no on two questions: Did you tell the Ukrainians to do the opposite of President Trumps request? And, did you believe that Trump’s request was unlawful?

        If Vindman answers yes to the first, he is clearly shown to be a partisan. If he answers no to the second, then Trump’s policy must be obeyed, and he testified that the didn’t.

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        • islandpalmtrees says:

          Seems clear to me.


        • islandpalmtrees says:

          Vindman said I can not counsel(the President) or make suggestions to the Ukrainians.

          First, Vindman, I did not tell the Ukrainians to stay out of US Politics since following President Trump request would get the Ukrainians involved in US Politics.

          Second, Vindman: What I was suggesting is staying out of US domestic Politics, is not a good idea. Is in effect, saying staying in US domestic Politics, is a good idea.


      • Justin Green says:

        “The road to Hell is paved with people of good intentions.”

        And underneath that road is a whole lot more people with evil intentions.


  27. JohnCasper says:

    When the patriot LTC Terry Lakin (also an MD) even dared to ‘question’ Obama, the Pentagon came down on him like a ton of bricks. He wasn’t even allowed to present evidence and witnesses at his court martial and was sent to prison (Leavenworth?). Compare and contrast this with Vindman and it pretty much says it all.

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  28. Midnite says:

    Having my previous post deleted by admin gives me pause to rethink my original statement.

    Although it was meant in jest, with just a dash of sarcasm and a bit of frustration thrown in for good measure, my sentiment still holds true. After reading the transcript of this seditious bum’s testimony I could think of no other cure for his actions that would send a clearer message to the Coup plotters then him standing in front of a wall. I may have conveyed that thought in rather terse terms, but then in certain circumstances i can be a man of few words. As a young man I too served in the military and I could NEVER imagine a situation where, now or then, this conduct could have been excused or ignored.

    Yes, fine court-martial him, send him to Leavenworth…take away his TV privileges if that’s what you think will do the job, but right here and right now….that’s not where my mind is.

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    • mikeyboo says:

      I vote we “deal with him” and THEN take away his TV privileges. No need to keep running up the electric.


    • Boots says:

      Midnite said: “….send a clearer message to the Coup plotters then him standing in front of a wall…”

      If this were a Tom Clancy novel, something like that would happen right about now. Key witnesses would receive warnings. The plotters, architects, engineers and prosecutors of the coup would be frantically encoding documents and hiding the encrypted docs, the FBI, NSC, NSA, and entire IC would be on a massive manhunt for the intruder, the media would be screaming for martial law in order to confiscate firearms….

      …and the intruder would go on about their business.


  29. Brutalus says:

    So…on Trump’s part, could all of this be opening the door and paving public acceptance for Military Tribunals? I’ve been very queasy about even getting Grand Jury indictments in swamp infested DC jurisdiction…suddenly, from Zaid to the administration and GOP to Sundance using the word “coup” much more targetly…I know Military Tribunals would be a shock to half the nation’s system, but where else could we get justice here

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  30. Pyrthroes says:

    Awarded a rare Regular Commission many moons ago, we served in remote USAF crypto-intelligence intercept/surveillance sites with ultra-high security clearance from the Western Aleutians to allied Germany (BRD) at the pre-Vietnam height of the Cold War.

    Whatever the rot infesting DC’s civilian agencies from c. 1961, any deployed armed forces’ involvement in undermining a duly elected, legitimate People’s President or his Administration was literally unthinkable.

    When serving officers like this Vindman character openly violate USCMJ Articles 88 and 92 (“contempt for officials” plus insubordinate “failure to obey orders”), opposing their Commander-in-Chief with implied JCS complicity (!), Benedict Arnold does a little dance. Imagine Andrew Jackson, Lincoln or TR, Eisenhower’s reaction to this crap– either Pres. Trump begins a high-pressure power-wash of Pentagon and IC subversives, or Franklin’s American Experiment degenerates to a Franco-Peronist slime-mold.

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  31. thedoc00 says:

    I to will be interested to see how the DoD handles the admitted UCMJ violations related to sedition, mutiny, disobedience of orders and failure to secure state secrets.

    The tough part for folks who want to see action will be that there will no public displays by the US Army until the Courts Marshal or LTC Vindman decides to go public as part of his defense. The process to get to the Courts Marshal will be long and carefully done since Schiff’s professional Lawfare staff added verbiage about being protected from retribution, demotion and reassignment in the deposition. House Democrats have essentially put the defense budget in play if they pursue LTC Vindman.

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  32. 13wasylyna says:

    Vindman’s ultimate superior officer is President Trump….Why is this twin america hating pipsqueak being treated as if he has anything to say. Nobody cares whether this pipsqueak hyperventilated like a preteen girl at a boy band concert over the Pres of the US asking the Pres of Ukraine for a favor…..he should be court martialled just for wearing that uniform

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  33. railer says:

    There are too many Pentagon Perfumed Princes hanging around Washington, D.C. and elsewhere in the world. Many of these people have nothing to do with fighting wars. The likes of McCain and his family made this a cottage industry, running around Washington in uniform, whoring and drinking, until they found another honeypot to move into.

    We need to thin the herd. You can downsize the officer corps 20% or so, much like industry has done to their management.

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  34. arze says:

    Sex Lies &

    President Trump had two options when he took office:
    1] clean house forthwith [and risk impeachmentgate]; or
    2] watch his opponents destroy themselves [and also risk impeachmentgate].

    I preferred door number 1, he chose door number 2.

    In retrospect, how much difference would this have made, in terms of outcomes? Option 1 and 2 had different risks and benefits.

    Look at each item used to try and get Trump in trouble. . . These items are direct result of lies.

    Lies, used to create the trouble in the first place.

    And then blame president for what was actually created by others – those lying to him and/or his team.

    These liars created trouble by lying to the president.

    Impeachmentgate is a long running show, for years now, based on lies.

    It is important to keep in mind that this was always a Reaction to Trump. A strategy with no foundation, as it is based on lies.

    It’s most current Act – via Impeahment-Inquiry House Vote, is also a reaction.

    And we know what it’s a particular reaction to.

    The Barr/Durham thing.

    When and if the Barr/Durham report gets written, these men, I am sure see all this through this perspective [and perhaps others].

    They would be wise to frame their report accordingly, thus making it simple, crystal clear, for American people to perceive what happened.

    Some DOJ lawyers have this gift [Horowitz, we have seen, does not possess this gift; nor did those jackasses who wrote the Mueller Report. I could have written that in five words. “No Collusion. Obstruction: no determination.” Period.] [Also, for those more comfortable using phrases like “lack of candor”, feel free. I prefer to call that lying. Some prefer “sexual assault” to rape. Americans prefer the truth. Plain, direct, and simple.]

    Susan Rice’s “By the book”, a lie.
    This was and has been used to pretend that accusing Trump/Team of terrorism/treason was A-OK.

    Obama justification to expel dozens and dozens of Russian diplomats and seize Russian property in US, all premised on a lie.
    This was and has been used to pretend Gen. Flynn was up to no good by discussing this in any way shape or form, among other things.

    SallyYates/Comey/McCabe/Pientka/Strzock etc. justification to interview Gen. Flynn on 1/24/17, all of it a lie.

    Sally Yates and using Logan Act, to target Gen. Flynn — she was lying.

    Robert Mueller lied about his intentions when he and Rosenstein [another liar] met with the president just prior to Mueller’s SC appointment.

    James Mattis lied to Trump when he was hired as Sec. Of Defense, about his actual intentions — and then when Mattis quit, made a spectacle of himself, viz. Trump’s stated policy on Syria: bring the troops home, let’s end these wars, it’s America First.

    Bolton lied when he was hired.

    Sessions lied when he was hired. [though putting an asterisk beside this dumbbell is OK]

    Too many to name, — about those that lied and continue to lie, about “Russia hacked Democrats, fed it to Wikileaks, for ‘plausible deniability’” etc etc.

    This lie, of course, come from the Steele Dossier. This lie remains of great use to those – in our government — out to silence and destroy and remove Trump. To the “resistance”, this lie is truth in action, including and especially media –those enemies of the people.

    Vindman lied, claiming it is his job to carry out his own, instead of president’s foreign police.

    Vindman is current poster boy for numerous others like him, with this perspective, not all [directly, perhaps] related to foreign policy, such as Comey, another poster boy who rules a crowded nation inside his mind.

    [I suspect one reason for all the hoopla to “protect” Vindman stems from an obvious fact: Ukraine can also call for his court martial — and Vindman could be thus tried in Ukraine. ]

    And on and on and on and on.

    Schiff lied about his involvement with our Dear Eric C.

    I wonder if Dear Eric – what was his role, if any, since he was on White House NSC staff when Gen. Flynn became Trump’s National Security Advisor in January 2017.

    What was dearie’s role in the Flynn perfidy — was he involved — directly?

    Perhaps not – but — however, there are many reasons for him having gone into hiding [after going rouge], beyond what we can already glean. Perhaps a legitimate one may be the fact he is facing Barr/Durham scrutiny? I don’t know for sure, yet.

    I also want to mention, among her myriad lies, one of recent vintage: Hillary Clinton lied saying Tulsi Gabbard and Jill Stein are Russian assets.

    President Trump, at his recently rallies, attend by hundred of thousands, told the American people the Army Major and the medical doctor are not Russian assets.

    Why were so many silent on Clinton’s perfidy? Trump is a leader; Clinton, the personification of rot. Trump, defending the honor of Americans being smeared by leader of Democrat Party.

    I mention this because it cannot be emphasized enough: the ramshackle plan to destroy Trump [impeachmentgate], the Trump phenomena, this social movement of Deplorables of which he is now leading – this Democrat Party-inspired plan [of which Obama is right in the middle of] always went beyond Trump and this social movement.

    It was intended — hatched to silence dissent among anyone who dare want to participate in the promise of American Democracy, who oppose our military adventurism, and want our boys brought home [and who want low-wage earners protected from unchecked immigration into this country, as Trump has stated time and time again is reason for a wall]. And who believe in Freedom of Expression, the basis for all political and human rights.

    Clapper and Brennan lied when they said they were not spying. They lied when they said their spying was to protect Trump. And they lied about Steele Dossier and what they knew and when they knew it.

    Comey failed to inform the Gang of Eight about his terrorism/treason investigation of Trump, in a timely manner, claiming it was too important to tells Congress – standing logic on its head.

    Comey’s response to the Congressman, the Republican from upstate New York was an outright lie, when Comey was under oath, is an outright lie. This is not the reason he failed to disclose this sedition of his to Congress.

    The CIA-Blower lied about the Trump-Zelensky telephone conversation.

    The CIA-Blower’s “inspector” general lied about what a whistleblower is.

    How many lies were told to the FISA court? We hope to find out soon.

    These and many more cesspool of lies are going to get Trump removed, via a coup no less?

    JFK was assassinated to carry out that coup. Obama went along with the cesspool rather than oppose it. He knows he was not in charge.

    This protracted conflict is about who rules — the executive branch, a president — or a cesspool.

    It will not be settled with Trump, nor likely in my lifetime. It is a battle royal among and between elite factions in our society. The actual revolution is the continued decay and breaking apart of our nation.

    For this essay, bottom line is: How many lies were told to President and Candidate Trump? [and, will this exposure begin to turn things around, or not?]

    All Trump has done is bring this question out in the open, so that no one can, anymore, deny it — who is in charge of executive branch, a president, or a cesspool? [The conflict is not new; our general awareness of it, however, is.]

    I want an actual count, and I expect Barr/Durham/Huber, and Horowitz to provide an exact number – of the lies used to try and get the president in trouble.

    These two reports, should they ever finish getting written, would do well to begin – to start off with: a list of all the lies told to Trump and his team – lies told to him by his subordinates — along with a brief description. And state exactly how many lies.

    And second, next, in their reports, then begin to describe in great detail all of these lies.

    Begin with those that are crimes.

    Then go to those that may not be crimes – but which violate policies and procedures – and clearly state how each of these lies directly and materially interfered with the president’s ability to do his job.

    Let the sun shine in.

    We need an awakening, a new dawn in this land. You Gotta Feel It.

    Let the sunshine,
    let the sunshine in,
    the sunshine in. . . .


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  35. OderofOne says:

    LT Colonel Windbag is a traitor. He should be keelhauled.

    It looks like the military has gone rogue.
    Tomorrow’s Veterans day will be full of tired platitudes about our military when the services should be overhauled from top to bottom at the President’s order.


    • JohnCasper says:

      Platitudes are all too often simply a form of political correctness.

      The modern patriotism, the true patriotism, the only rational patriotism is loyalty to the Nation all the time, loyalty to the Government (FBI, DOJ, CIA, Pentagon, etc.) only when it deserves it. The country is the real thing, the substantial thing, the eternal thing; it is the thing to watch over, and care for, and be loyal to; institutions are extraneous, they are its mere clothing, and clothing can wear out, become ragged, cease to be comfortable, cease to protect the body from winter, disease, and death.
      – Mark Twain


  36. Emuuuu says:

    Vindman is a disgrace to the uniform, and a traitor to his country. Traitors should be dealt with as is prescribed.

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  37. Mike Robinson says:

    With due respect to Sundance, this Veteran’s Day I think we remember the unswerving loyalty – even unto death – that millions in our armed forces have shown to this country, and, yes, its civilly-elected CinC. Even when the man was a buffoon. I am therefore certain that a double handful of rebellious career politicians have no power to alter that. Nor will they ever.


  38. OldParatrooper says:

    LTC Vindman preferred his version of Ukraine Policy to the President’s. So he counseled a little resistance to the President’s policy. Is that a clear-cut violation of Art 92 of the UCMJ? Testifying in uniform was a mistake in judgement as well, although he probably thought it made his case stronger.

    I respect Vindman’s service and sacrifice, but not his political position.

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  39. Theckman says:

    I am not surprised regarding Vindman. Why wasn’t there much of an uproar when Obama and Kerry and who knows who else, were brazenly continuing to meet with world leaders. Early on in Trump’s administration Obama met with Merkel and May. Kerry flew to Iran.
    Using common sense and what has happened subsequently, their message was “be patient, Iran deal still on, globalism, ect. Just hold tight!” That with all the intelligence agencies plots/coups, Trump’s presidency was a ticking time bomb in Obama and cronies view.
    That’s why MSM never thought they had to even bother pretending Trump was our president he was toast was the word on the street.
    This would never have been tolerated under the Obama administration. Can you imagine if Bush and cabinet members continued to blatantly remain involved in foreign affairs. No, because MSM and democrats would have been screaming from the rafters.
    The fact that no republicans or media said much about this is a red flag. Whose truly advocating for the Trump presidency. Republicans go through the motions because there is a large population they know is a lot more stable and patient (compared to funded ANTIFA for example) but, are concerned what will the Trump supporters do if Trump is impeached. That’s the only reason Trump is still in office.

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  40. LouisianaTeaRose says:

    I just reminded myself the I need to look at this from a much higher altitude.

    The main reason Nunes submitted that list was to make Schitt walk naked out in front of the entire sham. My opinion is that everyone is gonna be needing eyewash.


  41. Daniel says:

    A courts martial should take place here. The defense works no doubt assert orders [policy] were not lawful but he would have to cite the unlawful order or policy in how it violates law. It doesn’t and so he should be busted to the lowest rank and discharged dishonorably.

    But since this is ultimately treason, perhaps he should simply be shot.

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  42. margarite1 says:

    What is history but the story of how politicians have squandered the blood and treasure of the human race?
    Thomas Sowell


  43. This reminds me of the movie Seven Days in May, where a coup is initiated because the military leadership think they are smarter then everyone else and dislike the parameters of our Constitution…


  44. SD, looks like some action has been taken against Vindman.

    Well known that Vindman went to Ukraine while still in uniform to subvert PDJT’s foriegn policy. Military trial for treason. Then there are all the civilian gov’t employees who subvert the President’s policies. (i.e. Kerry, Pelosie, Obama etc).

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    • Remington says:

      Reported by Sara Carter today…

      Kevin McCarthy: This is a calculated coup orchestrated by Adam Schiff
      By Staff Writer -November 10, 2019
      “This is a calculated coup, that is being orchestrated by Rep. Adam Schiff” said Kevin McCarthy, the House Minority Leader on Fox News.

      “We are here watching him orchestrate a taking down of a President, after we just celebrated the 30 years of taking down of Berlin wall,” said McCarthy.

      “To come up with the [GOP] list of witnesses, we sat with Devin [Nunes] at Intel Committee, we sat with Oversight and Foreign Affairs and we looked at all that has transpired. And if you remember, Adam Schiff started this off by wanting the whistleblower to testify, and now Adam Schiff gets to decide who comes forward, and now he is fighting the whistleblower for coming forward,” continued McCarthy.

      “Why is Schiff doing that? Is it because we found out that he [Schiff] met with, and his staff met with him?” said McCarthy questioning the reason for Adam Schiff to block the whistleblower from testifying in from of the Impeachment inquiry committee.

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      • 1stgoblyn says:

        I’m curious here; does anyone know how the Rs found out that EC met with Schifty Schiff and/or his staff member(s)? There has been so much to read lately, but I haven’t seen that in print anywhere. Anyone?


  45. Les Standard says:

    The hatred and desperation of this cabal is off the scale, they may have a false flag brewing


  46. loteal2014 says:

    This part of Mulvaney comments at press conference has me scratching my head. What is he talking about when he said he started the coup. This sounds odd… anyone have an explanation? Here is the transcript.

    MR. MULVANEY: Yes, you haven’t asked a question yet. Yes.

    Q Was that a shadow foreign policy?

    MR. MULVANEY: Shadow? Hold it. A shadow foreign policy? Look, that’s a term you’re using. That’s a pejorative. That’s — what is a shadow foreign policy? The President —

    Q Operating outside the normal channels.

    MR. MULVANEY: Normal chan- — who else was in the room? Rudy Giuli- — who’s in the room when the President is having this conversation, okay? It’s Gordon Sondland, our Ambassador to the EU; Kurt Volker, who is our Special Designated Envoy to the Ukraine. I sat next to Mike Pen- — Mike Pompeo yesterday at the meeting with the congressional leaders, and I said, “Look, I understand I coordinated a coup against you by putting — by putting Sondland and Volker in charge of Ukraine policy.” And he leans back to me, and he goes, “You know they both work for me?”

    There’s not a shadow policy here. The President is entitled to have whoever he wants to work. This sounds odd… anyone have an explanation?


    • 1stgoblyn says:

      Mulvaney put Sondland and Volker in charge of Ukraine. They testified for Schifty and company. Schifty and company are screaming for Pompeo’s resignation/impeachment. That’s my take.


    • OlderAndWiser says:

      My take: Mulvaney is trying to apologize to Pompeo for stepping on his turf when Mulvaney appoints them to these posts. Pompeo is not to be flustered – and reminds Mulvaney that those people work for him, possibly hinting that Pompeo had already talked to Trump about this.
      What Mulvaney (in his not so elegant way!) is trying to say is that there was no daylight between all of them. For a politician, he was very clumsy in his choice of words.
      I don’t believe there was anything nefarious here.


  47. lying propaganda Democrats impeachment against President Totally BS and disgusting,
    people knows President did nothing wrong,
    TRUNP 2020,


  48. Craig Hill says:

    That guy thinks hes the PRESIDENT. Lol he got smashed


  49. Justin Green says:

    Add another noose to the gallows


  50. Abolition Man says:

    Lt. Col Vindman is a disgrace to the uniform! He has directly disobeyed a LAWFUL order of his Commander in Chief; that should be bounds for a court martial! He is probably working, wittingly or not, for the Chinese. That takes it into the realm of TREASON!! He needs to resign forthwith and if he wishes to regain the honor he has lost he should consider seppuku! I have a sharp skinning knife I will gladly donate if he chooses to do the right thing.
    Every American patriot should have a picture of this seditious POS so they can learn to identify the ENEMY! That’s right, Vindman, you don’t deserve the uniform or rank so I will never again give you either! I will continue to pray for this great nation and hope that your dress sword will be broken by officers who value their oaths to their country and hold you to account!


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