BREAKING: 2020 U.S. Census Will Not Include Citizenship Question…

BREAKING: The U.S. government has just announced to trial attorneys the 2020 U.S. census will proceed without the controversial citizenship question included.

According to lawyers involved in the case the DOJ has announced the decision and emailed the parties accordingly. [citations below]  The census will be printed for use without the question of citizenship.

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468 Responses to BREAKING: 2020 U.S. Census Will Not Include Citizenship Question…

  1. Jerry Joe says:

    With the sheer number of illegals voting in the last elections, does anyone think, by Census, an accurate citizen count could be had? I’m passing on the 92 page opinion that should have been reduced to a 9-0 sentence: We find nothing in the Constitution prohibiting the government from asking, in its Census, if the person responding is a U.S. Citizen; case closed. Based upon those insightful comments read here and as it stands, Chief Scotus appears standing out in the political winds by his lonesome. Tsk, Tsk, Tsk.
    Looking forward to POTUS playing this card…. As long as intentions are now fair inquiry, anyone up for a game of FISA?

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    • Justin Green says:

      One of the issues is that when the country was founded, a House rep represented a vastly smaller number of citizens.

      350,000,000 people plus illegal criminals is too much for 435 people to represent in the House. Much less 100 people in the Senate.

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    • Thnker says:

      I am not a lawyer, but doesn’t this beg for a lawsuit to say “taxation without representation?” If my state loses representatives because CA or other states gain due to illegal aliens, doesn’t a lawsuit block the census until this issue is decided?

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      • WSB says:

        As Twolaine posted on the earlier page…there can always be an addendum.

        😎

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      • Raghn Crow says:

        Exactly. Also, how about: “No representation without citizenship!”

        There’s historical precedent here. The early pre-Dem Democrats, the slave owners, got their slaves to count in the Constitution under the 3/5 clause, so that the Southern, Slave-Holding States had more representatives and thus had more power in Congress and the Electoral College than they should have had.

        They’re doing the same evil here. Exactly. They import an illegal working “lumpen proletariat” (to use the Marxist phrase) and then count them as citizens in order for them vote Democrat. They fully intend to create a one-party state. And they never change. Evil is evil, and it’s a broken record.

        Time for lawsuits and even more than that. This is that important.

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      • vincent cuomo says:

        Actually, we need a few Conservative Trump suporting groups to challenge electoral votes of California,and 12 other states:
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driver%27s_licenses_for_illegal_immigrants_in_the_United_States
        Since these same states allow people who get Driver’s licenses to register to vote:
        http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/automatic-voter-registration.aspx
        How do we know their vote totals do not include illegal aleins which is against the law as you must be a United States Citizen to vote in a Federal election; demand that these states prove their totals do not contain illegal alens and that all illegal alien votes are thrown out.

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  2. GSparrow says:

    Misguided or spiteful political activist and legal pretzel Justice Roberts has permanently joined the ranks of those American officials that put the interests of American citizens a distant 2nd to non citizens. “Even the United Nations recommends that its member countries ask a citizenship question on their census surveys, and countries ranging from Australia to Germany to Indonesia all ask this question. Only in the USA is this considered at all controversial — and it shouldn’t be.” (Spakovsky Heritage Foundation)

    Citizenship is on the UN’s “List of population census core topics” to be included on every country’s Census. (Principles and Recommendations for Population and Housing Censuses—UN)
    The UN report clearly and unabashedly includes recording the citizenship of all“undocumented persons, stateless persons and applicants for asylum or refugees.” The UN is also aware that all of these countries conduct deportations for various reasons. I guess the UN is now a hotbed of racism. Why didn’t Wilbur just state that he was following UN recommendations for Censuses?

    Chief Justice Roberts’ decision is another serious warning that the USA might not continue to be a stable and rational leader of the free world for long. If individuals or countries don’t look after themselves (and families) or their citizens first, then they will soon not be able to help anyone else.

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    • His decision is far reaching; it means judges can continue to block even a Presidents orders based on intent. So, unelected judges are running the country now.

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      • jx says:

        Don’t you know, the President’s lawful judgment can be superseded by the edict of an unelected attorney in a robe.

        “Let him enforce it” never had more relevance.

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    • Debra says:

      Is country/place of birth a question?

      Cannot a cross – index between those whose answer is foreign against naturalization records then determine a more definitive citizen census?

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      • GSparrow says:

        Debra:
        Yes like “Country of Citizenship,” place of birth is also a Core census topic according to the liberal UN’s 2017 report as is age, sex, marriage, place of residence, literacy, occupation, labor force status, number of children living and born alive and numerous others that Roberts would likely reject for the same phony reason.

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  3. Zippy says:

    THISs what happens when the POTUS doesn’t specifically threaten to —–FIRE—– ANYONE in the chain of his command who doesn’t INSTANTLY ACT on his or HIS APPOINTEES priorities!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So, yes, this outcome is ultimately TRUMPS fault!

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/04/13/wilbur-ross-pushed-census-citizenship-question-2020-trump-administration/3412922002/

    April 13, 2019

    WASHINGTON – Wilbur Ross had just started running the Department of Commerce, but he was growing impatient over the 2020 census, still three years away.

    “I am mystified why nothing (has) been done in response to my months-old request that we include the citizenship question,” Ross emailed to a staff member just two months into his new job on May 2, 2017. “Why not?”

    The commerce secretary had gotten an earful about the issue from Kris Kobach, the Kansas secretary of state who was about to be named vice chairman of President Donald Trump’s “Advisory Commission on Election Integrity.” Kobach had been recommended to Ross by Steve Bannon, the president’s chief strategist and White House senior counselor, who was a fierce opponent of the nation’s immigration policies.

    But it would take another seven months and the direct intervention of Attorney General Jeff Sessions to grant Ross’ wish. Two weeks before Christmas, the Justice Department finally asked for what Ross already knew he wanted – and Census Bureau officials learned for the first time that the citizenship question was even under consideration.

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    • TreeClimber says:

      Ad Rem, you’re being incredibly patient…

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    • Zippy says:

      And thanks to the STALLING within “Trump’s” “Justice” Department, the Dimocrats have TEN MORE YEARS of GROWING over-representation in national elections. Mission accomplished thanks to an administration that ALLOWS this crap!

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      • Zippy says:

        Actually more like FOREVER more over-representation than they deserve because in ten more years the continuing leftist shift in demographics turning states blue via leftists moving out of the nests they’ve soiled to soil other states and immigration both legal and illegal will make the election of a conservative president impossible at which point the SCOTUS will forever turn increasingly blue over time. This was the last chance at getting an even remotely proper count of citizens vs illegals. But the powers that be don’t WANT an accurate count or, actually, any kind of count at all.

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  4. MaineCoon says:

    FTA: The survey found that Americans across the political spectrum support the citizenship question.

    Eighty-eight percent of Republicans, 52 percent of Democrats, and sixty-three percent of independents said that they support a citizenship question on the United States census.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/07/02/poll-two-thirds-of-americans-back-citizenship-question-on-census/

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    • FrankieZee says:

      Something just doesn’t smell right about today. Pence is told to come back to the WH after he is on board AF2, and headed to NH for a speech. Then no explanation was given at that time and yet here it is later today and still no explanation. Then this Census issue comes out that they will print the form with no citizen question. Something is not adding up. And what makes it even stranger, no TWEET from the Prez about the census. Something is cooking up big time in the kitchen tonight.

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      • Jenevive says:

        I agree I find it very odd that POTUS hasn;t really tweeted much
        today..And they had to know if VP was called back suddenly
        people would wonder why and have we SEEN POTUS at all today.
        it is not like him to be this quite ….

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      • MaineCoon says:

        I agree. It is ‘out of character’ as they say. Something is rotten..

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    • Ivehadit says:

      I agree, Frankie!!

      And for you seminar posters today/tonight, NOTHING will separate us from our Donald!

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    • Zippy says:

      “The survey found that Americans across the political spectrum support the citizenship question.”

      For the umpteenth time:

      Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens
      Princeton University – 2014

      Click to access gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf

      Excerpts:

      A great deal of empirical research speaks to the policy influence of one or another set of actors, but until recently it has not been possible to test these contrasting theoretical predictions against each other within a single statistical model. We report on an effort to do so, using a unique data set that includes measures of the key variables for 1,779 policy issues.

      Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence. The results provide substantial support for theories of Economic-Elite Domination and for theories of Biased Pluralism, but not for theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy or Majoritarian Pluralism.

      In the United States, our findings indicate, the majority does not rule—at least not in the causal sense of actually determining policy outcomes. When a majority of citizens disagrees with economic elites or with organized interests, they generally lose. Moreover, because of the strong status quo bias built into the U.S. political system, even when fairly large majorities of Americans favor policy change, they generally do not get it.

      …the preferences of economic elites (as measured by our proxy, the preferences of “affluent” citizens) have far more independent impact upon policy change than the preferences of average citizens do. To be sure, this does not mean that ordinary citizens always lose out; they fairly often get the policies they favor, but only because those policies happen also to be preferred by the economically-elite citizens who wield the actual influence.

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  5. Magabear says:

    I imagine leftists who go door to door collecting census forms will be census harvesting. Start deportations now!!!!!!!

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  6. Jenevive says:

    This and the calling off of the deportations a couple weeks back in
    not a good look for POTUS..The other day it was we will see
    if we can delay now it just ok go without it..No Wall, no census question
    no deportations…signing bills without getting what he wants in them
    for his wall… The Dems are beating POTUS on this issue…

    HE keeps signing things and making excuses why he signs them
    but he get NOTHING in them…At this point I will believe
    the deportations when I see them actually happen…

    And if the excuse is that the deportation thing was leaked then
    why hasn;t the leaker been fired..dismissed.that is on POTUS..Where is
    this immigration Czar we hear of ..Still nothing there either..

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    • dallasdan says:

      I am convinced that powerful people in the President’s party (I’m guessing senators) are threatening him and succeeding in having him back-down on decisions/comments he has made publicly. To wit: the border closure, implementing deportations, and now the census question. I doubt it is a coincidence that all of these have to do with illegal immigration.

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    • Apfelcobbler says:

      2 weeks ago, PT was subverted by the Administrative state when they disclosed his plans. Then Roberts displayed some irregular creativity last week. Then this week AOC pulled off her stunt visit with the aid of ProPublica (and possibly Facebook) to throw egg at BP and ICE. She already knew about the Facebook group when she was saying “it’s not just a few bad apples”. I think that stunt was carefully planned in advance, including AOC’s carefully worded inflammatory accusations that avoided mentioning anyone by name. Everyone but everyone in the “resistance” is working overtime for open borders.

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  7. stats_guy says:

    The Roberts decision was based on the OrangeManBad principle. This was an extra-constitutional decision since even Roberts agreed that the census q was constitutional.

    Twitchy has a good summary:

    https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/07/02/a-total-disaster-benjamin-weingarten-weighs-in-on-that-dangerous-un-american-citizenship-question/

    Total disaster. Yes, this was a political loss for the President (and for the Office). We’ve seen renegade judges and Deep State actors going rogue to put themselves above the President.

    A greater loss though for this country. The celebrants in CA and all places Left think they have this country on the run…they see themselves as one day soon dividing the spoils…lots of money to be made and pilfered on the way down

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    • Zippy says:

      “Yes, this was a political loss for the President (and for the Office).”

      And the census question process got a too-late start thanks to ALLOWED foot dragging in “Trumps” Dept. of “Justice.” See my post above. This is HUGE because it allows continued over-representation for Dimocrats for another TEN YEARS which should get them over the horizon to their desired majority-leftist national political demographic caused by red states turning blue via leftists moving out of nests they’ve soiled and importation, legally or otherwise, of individuals who vote 70-80% left.

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  8. annie says:

    FYI Canada’s 2016 census included a citizenship question. Are there nations which do NOT ask citizenship, besides the U.S.?

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  9. JIM COMEY IS A WEASEL_DOUG says:

    sad what’s happening to our country.

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  10. TreeClimber says:

    Not happy about this, but President Trump has a habit of performing major winning in the background while letting other issues appear to fail, so I’ll see what comes out later in the week.

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    • Brian in CA4 says:

      Agreed…POTUS knows that this is one of the key issues to his core constituency. My guess is that they’ve decided that an expected future event will render this issue moot (save their powder)? What event could that be?

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    • dallasdan says:

      It’s very curious, the DOJ rolling over so easily when the President and Commerce Secretary were very keen on including the question and the SCOTUS did not strike it down. Surely, there is an interesting back-story.

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  11. TycheSD says:

    Trump is not fighting for us on immigration. Democrats are controlling the narrative, as polling is now showing.

    Trying to negotiate with Kim was very positive, but that is not the reason he was elected. Rush says every week that immigration is the reason Trump was elected but he doesn’t think the White House really gets it.

    This Roberts decision could have been overcome. I don’t know why they gave up.

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    • Invisigoth says:

      What did we get for this North Korean photo op?

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    • dallasdan says:

      Rush knows well that the President did not have the support of his party when Repubs controlled the House, and that the present Dem House majority has effectively killed the MAGA immigration-related agenda.

      I don’t listen to Rush, but if he is claiming “he doesn’t think the White House really gets it” regarding illegal immigration, he is being highly disingenuous. Moreover, the President has been harping on Twitter almost daily about illegal immigration.

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    • G S says:

      What is “Rush” saying the President should be doing about immigration? I could understand criticisms if they offered a solution.

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  12. Do stop thinking about tomorrow says:

    So if the US Sec of Commerce has chosen not to include the Citizenship Question what Precludes the President from an Executive Order demanding the QUESTION. HBK

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  13. yonason says:

    If there’s room for comments, I plan on writing, “I AM an American Citizen.”

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  14. Ozark says:

    The DemocRats and the Left win again.

    Liked by 1 person

    • dallasdan says:

      They are very strong, formidable opponents. They win their share of the battles, seeming to dominate the legislative and judicial branches. The President is a patriotic warrior army of one.

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  15. This decision, out of the blue, when President Trump specifically said that there would be more evidence coming is like shutting the door so no one can get in. Something very fishy about this!

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  16. Jeff P. says:

    Lock and Load folks it is time for things to get Really UGLY in the USA.
    What do we have to lose at this point? Why Bother Voting? Should we all just completely Ignore the Census when it comes??? Boycott the Census?
    In my Opinion It is time to see Politicians PAY Publicly for the Crimes they are Currently Committing AGAINST ALL US Citizens!!!!

    American Citizens be Prepared to be Attacked. So far as I can tell the DNC, Congress, the DOJ, the SCOTUS and the House of Reps etc. have DECLARED WAR ON US CITIZENS!!!

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    • Rileytrips says:

      They have actively taken our way to choose our own Representation in the federal government – by voting – away from the citizens of this country. Taken away our MAIN civil liberty to decide who represents us. They just want our money – our taxes.

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  17. One more of these caves and I conclude orange man isn’t bad, he is just full of crap and cowardly. Immigration reform and illegal immigration was important to me when I voted for President Trump and he has been totally unwilling to go full President Lincoln on the traitors in DC while foreign governments commit acts of war against the US using their immigration policies.

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  18. Jeff P. says:

    BTW I will NOT Participate in this 2020 Census.

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    • Brian Baker says:

      Hopefully only if you live in a blue state.
      If you live in a red state then participate twice. 😉

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    • Art says:

      Good luck with that! I refused to answer the door when they showed up in 2010. They kept coming back, and finally gave up. They probably just made something up to complete their census.. Maybe I’ll join you again in 2020, Jeff..

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  19. Hopper Creek says:

    KMA Justice Roberts ! 1 st obama care, and now this tavesty.. Shameful.

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    • NJ Transplant says:

      Don’t forget how Roberts hasn’t done anything about the FISA court outrage. He really needs to be impeached.

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  20. Gary Lacey says:

    As I read this article, it occurred to me, these are the latter years spoken of in the HOLY BIBLE, Satan would be bound a thousand years, then released for a little while to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog(Turkey), Persia(Iran), Lybia.

    It would seem the whole world has gone insane.

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  21. this is a worthless ‘since us’

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  22. Sassy says:

    Ever the optimist, I wonder if it’s possible they’re printing the forms but continuing the appeal, hoping to revise the forms if they win the case? What happened to the legal case? Is it dropped? A New York Times article says only that there was a one-sentence email to the plaintiffs saying they’re going ahead with printing forms without the question, but does that mean they’ve given up on defending the issue?

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  23. Chris Watson says:

    As it is clear that we are at war, I think we need to start fighting back…

    I suggest a coordinated act of civil disobedience, targeted to the uber liberal states…California, Washington, and New York, to name a few.

    If all of the conservatives/patriotic Americans in those states refused to participate in the census, it might affect the number of representatives apportioned to those states.

    We could call it the ‘Cancel Out An Illegal Project’ or ‘Take a Stand’…

    At the very least, if we could put together a very public campaign, gathering signatures so as to be able to publicize the potential effect, liberal heads will start exploding…

    I like it!

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  24. Invisigoth says:

    I’m tired of all this winning. Happy Fourth, which will not be picked up by the networks this year.

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  25. dwhitehurst says:

    Hate to say it, but given the lack of votes in Senate and Scotus, it looks like most of MAGA will never be realized, at least before 2020 presuming Trump wins and RBG either retires or croaks.

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  26. dwhitehurst says:

    Hate to say it, but given the lack of votes in Senate and Scotus, it looks like most of MAGA will never be realized, at least before 2020 presuming Trump wins and RBG either retires or croaks.

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  27. BTW, Ted Cruz was an over-the-top supporter of John Roberts…. not very prescient as Roberts is a complete fraud. I have more respect for Sotamayor (at least she was honest about who she was) than this slimy goofball John Roberts.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-not-wrong-cruz-loved-the-justice-the-right-hates

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  28. Perot Conservative says:

    I have an ancillary solution.

    Have a new, REAL ESTIMATE of illegal immigration be put into use. 22 Million+ … 29Million+… SCRUB the laughable 12 Million myth.

    Ann Coulter covered some population and cost estimates a few weeks ago in The Hill.

    I’ve also heard estimates that if we catch 1 million illegal immigrants in a year … another 1 to 3 million a year aren’t caught.

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  29. TycheSD says:

    Most Republicans in Congress don’t agree with Trump voters on immigration. Mike Lee is putting forward a bill with Kamala Harris to allow more immigrant workers from India. It never ends. How will this help Trump beat Harris if she were to become the nominee? Would he sign this bill and then compliment her on a great bill when they meet for debates?

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  30. RobInPA says:

    Tactical retreat?, taking the issue off of the 2020 battlefield.

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  31. Vito Romano says:

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    • Rileytrips says:

      Looks like they (DOJ) already decided this without you, Mr. President. We all are wondering what the h*ll is going on there, and why you don’t seem to have any control over domestic issues. We have your back, we love this country, too.

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      • Sentient says:

        Not so sure. The email said they’re going ahead and printing the census forms without the citizenship question. It didn’t say they’ve agreed to conduct the census without asking the question. They could always print new forms if SCOTUS reverses course. People act like printing 100 mil forms is hard. It’s not. And the cost is peanuts in the scheme of things. This might be a head fake.

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        • Apfelcobbler says:

          Maybe something’s up, as you are thinking. It would seem to be so much easier to have had an EO in the first place – sure, PT would’ve taken a lot of heat, but he would have won in the end. It’s still possible …

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      • Daniel says:

        I held off on commenting because I knew this couldn’t be right given what Trump said about it.

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    • DJT2020 says:

      These tweets tonight baffle me. They are similar to the ones he sent when the SCOTUS decision came down last week. By tweeting tonight about it SEEMS as if he is unaware that the DOJ trial lawyer conceded the issue earlier in the day. Something is up here methinks.

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  32. ezgoer says:

    The Left wins again. The Constitutionalists lose because they are willing to accept defeat and their ranks are full of phonies and traitors.

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  33. meadowlarkspring says:

    A modern “national community” not e pluribus unum (national identity). Only e pluribus unum remains undefeated.

    Megan Rapinoe Is a Patriot
    The U.S. women’s national soccer team didn’t just win a match against England—they’re making the case for a different kind of patriotism.

    Franklin Foer
    Staff writer for The Atlantic

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/07/patriots-us-womens-national-soccer-team/593233/?utm_term=2019-07-03T00%3A09%3A50&utm_content=edit-promo&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR2-WEypyuFANBl9ZppaigVaOzPqVEsQRKOHCQEvAAVTyqxCnW1EBhEJTAc&fbclid=IwAR0Wf88IfqzgRETcYu0PlGVOBZ095CRKEccbAvUn8Jx8ebO3UryPi4PNMo4

    -snip-

    I’m going to think about how the nation can still garner the world’s admiration, and how an idealistic vision of national community remains undefeated.

    -snip-

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  34. Rileytrips says:

    Why don’t Republican Representatives and Senators show up in groups with cameras and media to interview homeless citizens on the streets of America – living in tents and cars? Ask them about services they are receiving? Find homeless families – interview them? Interview families with foster kids – ask them if they are being served well by Congress and the law?! Enough of this crap for foreign nationals!! We have millions of underserved, impoverished citizens and legal residents AND finite resources! What the heck are you doing for them!

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  35. Chip Doctor says:

    Today would be.a great day to write the President a letter of encouragement. I am sure he feels frustrated sometimes too. A kind word of support will do a lot more than sniping at him.

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  36. I’m probably the last one to figure this out, but it just dawned on me: President Trump, having thwarted the Cloward-Piven scheme to overwhelm the welfare system by waving the magic wand that so eluded obama and bringing JOBS back to the United States, A New Plan had to be effected: Overwhelm the welfare system by flooding the country with millions of migrants. Yep. That oughta work.

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    • oldguy05 says:

      “A New Plan had to be effected: Overwhelm the welfare system by flooding the country with millions of migrants.”
      That plan is not new. It began with LBJs “Great Society” in 1964/65
      It works in conjunction with Cloward-Piven and is even larger in scale.

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      • Zippy says:

        Their primary goal is to turn the majority national political demographic deep blue via importation of those who vote 70-80% left regardless of educational or income level at which point they can do anything they want including turning the SCOTUS deep blue over time.

        Too many people haven’t read Ann Coulter’s heavily researched book, “Adios, America!”

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  37. dallasdan says:

    The deep state enjoys winning too.

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  38. Apfelcobbler says:

    The left values enumeration as a way to control budgetary issues through (over)representation. Conservatives view enumeration as the basis of representation. These views are at complete odds.

    We are at the absurd point where it is none of the taxpayer’s business how many citizens are in the country. Today marks the official unveiling of “Taxation without representation 2.0”.

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  39. Another FU from John Roberts to President Trump and his base!

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    • Rileytrips says:

      As if the corrupt FISA courts and their allowing surveillance of Presidential candidates and their campaigns for political gain AND Obamacare – the government takeover of our entire healthcare system weren’t bad enough….NO….he has to take away the ability for citizen’s to be represented in Congress. What’s next?!

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  40. Art says:

    My ancestor’s that arrived on the ship “Charming Betty” on October 11, 1733, Philadelphia, PA from Germany, and settled in Berks’s County, PA are roiling in their graves. It took over 250 years to destroy America, they built, and it’s about done. And to think my ancestor’s were Democrat’s…. Not even knowing what a Democrat, or Republican was…

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  41. AP downunder says:

    Trump is making Roberts own the census decision.

    Roberts assumed Trump would fight any adverse decision on the census, so he decided to have some fun making Trump squirm and sweat and beg for it. The Trump administration was supposed to get really ‘invested’ in this issue, devise a stated reason, which then gets challenged and goes back to the court. In the meantime the clock is ticking adding to the stress and perception of disorder. It also opened up yet another front against Trump in the political war, for him to invest energy in fighting.

    But Trump wasn’t interested in playing Roberts’ game. Instead he hung this stupid, irrational decision around Roberts’ neck.

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  42. TCG says:

    Trump is making Roberts own the census decision.

    Roberts assumed Trump would fight any adverse decision on the census, so he decided to have some fun making Trump squirm and sweat and beg for it. The Trump administration was supposed to get really ‘invested’ in this issue, devise a stated reason, which then gets challenged and goes back to the court. In the meantime the clock is ticking adding to the stress and perception of disorder. It also opened up yet another front against Trump in the political war, for him to invest energy in fighting.

    But Trump wasn’t interested in playing Roberts’ game. Instead he hung this stupid, irrational decision around Roberts’ neck.

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  43. Bruce Boelter says:

    Nothing stopping a “supplemental” question page at a later date. Just sayin’.

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  44. CMC says:

    Only in American can a thoroughly corrupt democratic party make it “controversial” to admit you are a legal US citizen or to proudly fly your country’s flag. Will they also find it “controversial” to ask the “gender question” given that many of their radical progressive voters also find that offensive, as well? Will they get rid of the question regarding an individual’s race, ethnicity, or skin color… or do the democrats still need a head-count of their potential fake-victim-voting-block.

    Why do the democrats find it perfectly fine to ostracize, offend and deliberately discriminate against American citizens — so long as they don’t “hurt the feelings” or obstruct the ability of illegals to fill out a census meant for AMERICANS… or make any effort to prevent foreigners from committing voter fraud in their behalf.

    Do the democrats even realize how transparent and obnoxious their agenda against Americans has become?

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  45. P says:

    Could those of us who are citizens just add a handwritten statement to the census (since there isn’t time to machine-print a question for people to answer) stating: “Yes, I am a legal citizen of the United States born in city/state on mm/dd/yyyy.” (or however best to state our citizenship status clearly)? Then those statements could be checked for validity.

    Reason I’m thinking this way: We write in/add names to voting forms at times; we can just write in/add our citizenship status to the census form.

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