Senator Lindsey Graham Discusses FISA Court and Ongoing Inquiry…

Inspector General Horowitz is doing a FISA review based on the Carter Page application. However, if Michael Horowitz has started looking deeply into the DOJ National Security Division (DOJ-NSD), via their historic use of FARA definitions to submit Title-1 surveillance warrants against U.S. persons…. well, there’s a strong possibility such an IG investigation would take much longer than expected.

Additionally, if the Obama DOJ-NSD was using the appearance of FARA violations as the predicate for FISA warrant authority (now seems likely); and that sketchy predicate was the basis for keeping all OIG oversight away from the NSD (again, likely); then the entire political system in/around Washington DC would be opened as a target for surveillance.

Anyone targeted under such a sketchy legal predicate for lobbying violations, would unknowingly be carrying their Title-1 surveillance virus into every interaction.  The downstream ramifications are almost beyond imagining….

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212 Responses to Senator Lindsey Graham Discusses FISA Court and Ongoing Inquiry…

  1. Akzombie says:

    Sleepy Joe or Sloppy Joe? The latter sounds better with the way he likes to fondle and drool on young girls and women.

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    • Retired USMC says:

      Ho Ho, Hey Hey, who did Joey grope today?

      Liked by 1 person

    • Rob says:

      “Senator Lindsey Graham Discusses FISA Court and Ongoing Inquiry…”

      Liked by 1 person

      • davidb says:

        Graham always “discusses”, but rarely uses his senate position to actually DO anything. Just another Uniparty member waiting for the oppertune time to stab Trump in the back.

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        • Cocoon says:

          Let’s not omit the years of illicit Info gathering by FBI Contractors Under Obama.
          Were the contractors foreign or domestic?
          Who did they spy on?
          What did they do with info?
          Who else pays these contractors?
          Any family members on the payroll of these contractors?

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        • Blister Bill says:

          Graham and McStain were step n fetch it boyz for the O’hole treason regime. Every repuke that was ‘in power’ during the O’muslim usurpation needs to be brought to justice for what they did to the country, imo. Only a few tried to stand up to his fundamental transformation. The rest allowed and funded it all. And they ALL KNEW he was never eligible to hold the ‘job’ he did for 8 years.

          Graham needs to be brought to justice.

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        • oldumb says:

          Wow, that has never been said before, Are there any other Trump supporters that you can disparage instead of Trump enemies?

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  2. Carson Napier says:

    If it were possible to poll the Founding Fathers, would even one of them be in favor of a Secret Court system? I don’t think there would be a single solitary one, nor a single solitary one in favor of putting anyone in extended solidarity confinement for financial offenses, let alone doing that to get them to “compose” against their tormentors political opponents. Is this even America anymore ?

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    • livefreeordieguy says:

      It’s not an America that any of those Founding Fathers would recognize… or one that even my father would recognize either… THAT is how fast this is all evaporating. “Suicide of a Superpower”…

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      • littleanniefannie says:

        Sadly, it is one that was embraced for years (and still is) by many Socialist and Communist countries. I find it sad that so many radicals are embracing Socialism and Communism. Unfortunately, this is primarily younger Americans lured in by 3 letters (E, F, and R) to make a 4 letter word—FREE. Ironically, when they accept all the “free” stuff from the government it does come with a price tag. That price tag is their freedom. A large part of the problem lies in an education system that fails to educate students on the real facts of Socialism and Communism.
        I hope young people learn to research for themselves. These young people pride themselves on being tech savvy and then depend on non-news television shows for their “news” or only use a few web sites to get “news” and don’t bother to fact check. If that isn’t the case, then I give these young people too much credit for having common sense. There is NO way a REASONABLE thinking person can believe that the country can give all citizens free college and free health care. If you tax every American citizen 95% it is still unsustainable. What we really need to give young people is a free course in common sense!

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        • oldguy05 says:

          “A large part of the problem lies in an education system that fails to educate students on the real facts of Socialism and Communism.”
          A large part of our education system relies on teachers/professors that embrace Frankfurt School ideologies. The real facts of Socialism/Communism aren’t taught as 80% of academia are Socialists/Communists.
          “The goal of Socialism is Communism.” – Vladimir Lenin

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          • strateshooter says:

            oldguy…we also need to objectively recognize that a large part of the problem was the crony capitalism/banks rescue of 2008/9.
            It was disgusting and corrupt and soured a whole generation of millennials towards real capitalism.
            the rich got richer and the poor got poorer.
            We reap what we Sow.
            Millenials see the choice as Bernie v Scumbag Bankers and pols who protected them.

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    • formerdem says:

      Yes it is. Hillary Lost! Donald John Trump beat her, the DNC, Hollywood, Silicon Valley and Big Tech, the CoC, most of Wall Street, the CIA, FBI, NSA, China, Canada, the EU, the Ukraine, the Five Eyes intelligence agencies, a large share of the GOP, and much of academia. And he did it without campaign consultants, without much money. Just brains and a heart for the people he offered to represent.

      Liked by 26 people

      • rvsueandcrew says:

        …. and a lot of hard work.

        Liked by 15 people

        • Ready Steady Go says:

          …. And an enormous set of brass ones.

          Liked by 13 people

          • donna kovacevic says:

            POTUS had the biggest, mightiest help of them all. The Almighty hand of God!

            Liked by 10 people

            • oldguy05 says:

              He also had the 2nd mightiest help of all…the MSM!
              He didn’t need an ad budget. During the campaign the MSM gave it to him free. He was on every day all over the MSM! They thought he was an interesting character that would never win. He gave them footage they coudn’t ignore and they tried to twist it to their own ends. It only helped! They must kick themselves when they look back at how much they helped:)

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      • vicarioushikermom says:

        Maybe one has to be a religious person to think this (I am and do): I see the hand of God in Donald J. Trump’s presidency, saving this country

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        • Ready Steady Go says:

          I don’t know man. This country is a modern day Babylon. Murder, drugs, pornography, abortion. We have basically failed. Hollywood, music, politics are run by very evil people.

          Liked by 2 people

          • cthulhu says:

            …..and, yet, without NYC, Chicago, LA, and DC — don’t things look a whole lot better?

            Liked by 4 people

            • saintoil says:

              addendum, Baltimore, Detroilet,Newark,San Franshitco, many others of lesser known. Most cities that are of large population have the no go zones . Suburbs have been under attack also. Sadly, I don’t think you can isolate the rot. It is everywhere. Except Nancy’s neighborhood.

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            • Tl Howard says:

              Yes, they do, but what is depressing is that smaller and once sane cities have followed the same path as those you listed: Seattle, Portland, Phoenix, Houston, Denver, Dallas, etc.

              Look to the insanity of both the private and public system of higher education and you’ll see the link.

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        • margarite1 says:

          We need the judges Trump appoints to stop the abortion industry. Then I’ll think that God did it.

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          • rvsueandcrew says:

            Whenever I find myself looking for proof of God’s hand in personal or world events, I remind myself of John 20:29.

            “Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

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        • Finbar O'Shaunnessey says:

          “Render unto Caesar ……”

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        • lydia00 says:

          So you think God forced people to vote for Trump? I am a believer but don’t believe in a determinist God. Not a long walk from Islam, frankly. Did God force people to vote for Obama –twice?

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          • formerdem says:

            He disposed of Hillary. As such I am willing to see Divine Providence in his victory. She was way more rotten and dangerous. And as for Mitt, a lukewarm pro-lifer might have been worse than a flat out pro-choicer we could fight with.

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        • oldumb says:

          I don’t presume that at all. I think God makes or allows all leaders. President Trump “ordained by God” is a nit of a stretch.

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      • tucker7518 says:

        Now they think Hillary Clinton created the Steele Dossier, and Steele was just a front.

        ps://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/06/evidence-suggests-the-hillary-clinton-team-
        created-dossier-was-provided-to-steele-then-kerrys-state-department-and-then-tow, they

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        • WSB says:

          Nellie Ohr wrote most of it, IMHO. Her calling card is the most experienced. Years of Russian everything.

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          • I think you are right. It wouldn’t surprise me if Ben Rhodes, Vicious Sid Blumenthal and a few other HRC confidantes also had their fingers in it. IMHO, Steele was hired to give it an “international” validity. It appears the State Department originated it, Brennan promoted it within the IC and “international” and the corrupt FBI/DOJ implemented it.

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            • WSB says:

              This has been Sundance’s position all along. I also did a lot of independent reading about Nellie’s past, and it makes perfect sense.

              It may very well be that Britain’s intelligence services also went rogue, and the Qeen/PM are handing Steele over to us. And no word about Assange yet? Have not been following.

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          • Blister Bill says:

            That sounds about right. Too many of the talking heads on ‘our’ side drop the terms like steele dossier, etc. Sometimes going into great detail(with no facts) about who authored it. Reinforcing the narrative the dems wished to get across that this was a foreign creation.

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    • dreamguardian007 says:

      “If it were possible to poll the Founding Fathers, would even one of them be in favor of a Secret Court system? I don’t think there would be a single solitary one…”

      Agreed, Carson. But while the Founders were well-acquainted with the extortion of Islamic Barbary Pirates, could they have envisioned the threats to America from the means available to today’s terrorists? The FISA court is not the answer. Given the pride that lurks in the hearts of all people, especially politicians imbued with such power, how do we ensure that our Government’s awesome surveillance powers are used for only for the right reasons?

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      • WSB says:

        George Washington’s code number as a spy was 711.

        The courts of every monarchy were personally cut throat. This being the reason we were gifted a Constitutional Republic. We are just not very good at keeping it.

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      • testpointwp says:

        Congressional oversight, preceded by term limits.

        If we could eliminate career politicians and allow a fresh set of eyes to review budget, practices, and methods every few years, we might be able to have a government of the people, by the people and for the people.

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        • oldumb says:

          Why people think that is beyond me.
          #1 you are limiting my choices.
          #2 you are throwing out good/great people by a measure of time.
          #3 you empower the deep state, they stay year after year gaining power
          #4 you limit the power of our elected representatives by booting them out as soon as they gain experience, always new people learning what is going on.
          #5 How long until you burn though the good people and scrape the bottom of the barrel looking for someone eligible?

          All of that because people vote wrong. Did we term limit George Washington? Wouldn’t you want POTUS 45 around a little longer?

          Limiting the choices if citizens to choose their representatives is NOT the answer – Just a Deep State enabler.

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          • testpointwp says:

            Perhaps this will help you to understanding my thinking.

            #1 The re-election rate in congress has been as high as 98% (1998, 2000, 2004, 97% in 2016) and rarely goes below 90%. The forces behind that unrealistic re-election rate are what limit our choices. A better qualified candidate, seeking to oust a member of his/her own party has virtually no chance of winning.

            #2 You can count the number of great reps/senators on one hand. That would be 5 out of 535. I would gladly throw out 530 bad ones after eight years even if it meant the loss of five good ones. How many great representatives have stayed in Washington more than eight years? Perhaps you can name some. I’ll wait.

            #3 The Uniparty empowers the deep state. Long term relationships between the deep state operatives and long-term reps keeps the money flowing both ways. Long term reps don’t want responsibility. Responsibility limits their reelection chances. They only want power and authority. That’s why they dump implementation on the bureaucrats.

            #4 Exactly. I want to limit their power. And their corruption. And their entitlements. If they are ready for the job, they can be effective from day one.

            #5 Under the current system, most good people don’t even consider running. We start at the bottom of the barrel.

            George Washington set his own term limits because he was the smartest man in the room.

            I would not want POTUS 45 around more than 8 years because of the possibility of having someone like Barack around more than 8 years. The downside is too great.

            Limiting our choices for representatives is NOT the answer – that’s why we need term limits.

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            • oldumb says:

              I don’t think any of your points change anything. My points still stand and you are limiting my choice to choose. You are bolstering the careerist with power. You are advocating perpetually weak politicians.

              You are trying to fix the problem from the wrong end. Fix who you elect.

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              • testpointwp says:

                Without term limits, democrats in deep-blue states have absolute control. The incumbents and party elites gerrymander districts and choose who will run. Any appearance of voter choice is an illusion.

                If you have an idea that is better than term limits, I’m open to hearing it. The current system greatly favors the incumbent as I’ve shown in point 1 above.

                Just exactly how do you propose to, “Fix who you elect” ? If you have a solution, I have conservative friends in Illinois and Massachusetts who are most interested.

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                • oldumb says:

                  I understand I am a conservative in IL. I don’t have a solution for getting better elected people. I do understand limiting choice and empowering the deep state isn’t the answer.

                  I don’t need a better idea to reject an abject bad idea. Term limits make our problems worse and help nothing. You are rotating scoundrels.

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    • Julian says:

      Who was the President when this happened? Under who’s DOJ was this happening?

      Whoever it is needs to be held accountable for appointing such despicable Swamp Rats.

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      • WSB says:

        Julian, many of our Presidents have been puppets. This has been happening for a very long time. Truman knew. He actually created a lot of the problem. Eisenhower knew. And so on. Reagan was ‘advised’ to take George H W Bush on as VP, after the GOP ‘recommended’ Ford, of all people.

        Do you see the play there? The GOP recommended Ford because they knew it would be a losing ticket. But Reagan knew better. However, he got stuck being babysat by Papa Bush. Director of the…CIA.

        And then the family friend of the Bushes almost killed Reagan. Now, he has been released in my parents’ home town. See how that works?

        Sick, isn’t it?

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        • icehole3 says:

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        • And what’s different about Trump is that he’s different. He’s neither a career politician nor a retired Army General. He wasn’t picked by “the system.” And that’s why “the system” is so afraid of him. That’s why they’re determined to accuse an innocent man of “high crimes,” or to declare him “mentally unfit,” or – well, there are other possibilities but let us pray that this won’t happen. “The system” had appointed Hillary Clinton but it was so self-absorbed in its own power that it couldn’t see what the American people very plainly saw.

          As for me, I really don’t understand why they were so obsessed with him, that they would want to know the serial number of the receipt that a friend of a friend of a friend received when he went to buy a chicken sandwich for lunch. If they’d instead spent that time honestly campaigning …

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    • The Phantom Stranger says:

      The Federal government was never supposed to get this big or powerful. Our Constitution was designed that way from the beginning.

      It’s only when FDR and World War II rolls around that the Federal Government begins its enormous expansion into every American’s life.

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    • Blister Bill says:

      Without a doubt.(like) And if I hear that motor mouthed mick say that ‘we need to get this right…get to the bottom of it. After all, our govt needs these tools to fight our enemies’. I’m going to lose it.

      90 plus percent of what ‘our’ govt does is unconstitutional. It needs to be radically reduced by whatever means necessary.

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    • CharterOakie says:

      1) NO
      2) Barely….

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    • Linda Jean Burkett says:

      They were actually totally against a secret warrant from a secret court. This is what was going on in the European kingdoms and they didn’t want it brought to our govt. Bush made a terrible decision when he was talked into this by the swamp masters all in the name of national security.

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    • WSB,
      If that happens the lid is blowing WIDE open–given the number of pols spied upon.

      Of course, as SD has shown us, Obama and his cabal of crooks wanted maximum leverage to accomplish their “fundamental transformation” of the U.S.

      The Judicial Watch revelations in the Hannity show tonight confirm the key role of the State Dept in the various incarnations of corrupt Obama Admin activities.

      This corruption was both WIDE and deep…hoping the American public can withstand what they will be learning. Many details will be elided but the main points are severely shocking to any American with a conscience

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        • lotbusyexec says:

          I am going to watch that movie tonight – looks awesome! I have a feeling that our “current” Star Chamber is far stranger than fiction and that many will be shaking their heads in disbelief long after the hammer is dropped.

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      • WSB says:

        It will. I blew someone’s mind last weekend. He kept saying I was giving him conspiracy theories, until I showed him the article on Steele cooperatng with the DOJ, and reminded him that over 20 FBI and six Italian agents have been fired thus far.

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      • GGHD says:

        Your >right WisdomT …
        +The ‘Chicago Way’ schooled Obama and his cronies. … Spying on people usually creates political leverage, only when people can be blackmailed. … Hopefully, all the criminal activities will be made public.
        [Of course, there’s a graveyard of mostly forgotten scandals in American history.]

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        • David A says:

          Hopefully those that witnessed the placing of many under the gun of forced political leverage are beginning to see the Trump election as a chance to rebel against the tyranny. ( They very likely must believe that Trump will win, then the statist house of tyranny will fall.) This may be happening now as new revelations appear almost daily.

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      • Jederman says:

        I don’t think I’m alone in thinking back in 08 that obama was about as heavy as a feather, an empty suit, a product.

        It quickly became obvious once elected that he was not about personal persuasion, compromise and good governance for all. He was about force and cheap leverage.

        First (and they spend millions at, yep Perkins Coi) to bury his paper trail and past. Then they applied the rotten chicago style leverage on a national level.

        He was not personally formidable, he was not brilliant but he was willing to be the front man and enjoy the perks. He was a scam of the worst kind in American politics.

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        • Blister Bill says:

          Well said. They were punks–degenerates. The fakestream media and idiot Obola voters put true believing marxists, maoists, and muslims in charge of the executive branch for 8 long years. IOW, enemy combatants.

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      • sarasotosfan says:

        The “disappearance” of Jeff Sessions was stunning and this casts a new light on potentially how this came about. The abuse of power by the intelligence community should make everyone gulp hard.

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    • jeff montanye says:

      good link. nice work.

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    • Good link. Now knowing that Brennan retained his security clearance against the Presidents orders, who made the counter order and why?

      All these sycophants running around with top security clearances must surely raise alarm bells. We’re already starting to learn that evidence cannot be found or is damaged.

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      • WSB says:

        Brennan is a very evil person. You can research his time at the Cairo office. Probably stamping jihadis for visas on a daily basis.

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      • Darrell Michael Richardson says:

        Brennan and the rest lost their “access” ie clearance. The “clearance” remains on fil in JPAS/JCAVS until end of term then dropped but marked while on file as access revoked. People that do not understand how it works should never assume that the orders of the CIC…ie POTUS have not been followed because they have been followed. People reporting such things do not know the system nor do they have access to it.

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        • Blister Bill says:

          I’m not seeing ANY evidence that the hillary voters in control of our corrupt stasi state are following ANY of PDJT’s orders.

          The DHS is a glaring example.

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        • … and apparently many people who DID, didn’t know about fundamental government regulations concerning [all] data retrieval systems: that, even if the data is merely “confidential,” there must be audit trails. This is what Adm. Rogers used to conclusively determine that certain systems under his command had been compromised, and this is what enabled him to give specifics to the FISA Court judges. (Less specifics, of course, to the other interested party – the candidate.)

          Significantly, these same audit records should enable us to determine when and by whom information was withdrawn in order to place it (illegally … allegedly …) on a public server, or simply to leak it (illegally …) to the Press. We should be able to positively account for that data when it (illegally …) walked out the front door, and know exactly who had it in their pocket.

          (Of course, investigators might already have done this. We would not be privileged to know.)

          EVERY government data system must do this, as must most civilian systems of a similar nature. Of course the records themselves are classified.

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    • Garrison Hall says:

      But then, perhaps not. I’ve worked in bureaucracies where internal “insider” cultures are entrenched to the point that virtually everyone in decision-making positions are so compromised that it’s almost impossible to find someone willing to “buck the system”. This appears to be what’s happening within the upper reaches of our federal bureaucracy. When you think about what they’ve done—and then think about just how reluctant the appointed investigators (starting with Sessions) are to actually do anything about it—it’s hard not to conclude that some really bad guys are not going to be touched. It’s disturbing to think that, but I think it just may be true.

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      • WSB says:

        We shall see how far President Trump will be willing to go, Garrison.

        He simply does not shy away from whatever one wants to call it. Revenge, as he says of his own word, justice, something else.

        I worked for a very wealthy and unbalanced NY millionaire for about four months. PT knew him very well.

        People would be very afraid to approach him on anything negative basically because he overpaid everyone at his firm. No one ever told him no. They were stuck because they could never make the money and bonuses they had become accustomed to.

        However, there were two people who did, one was a chef who walked out on him during a huge dinner party for 300, and the other successfully sued him for breach of contract.

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      • Blister Bill says:

        It’s an echo chamber of radical leftists, Trump haters, and Hillary voters that comprise our 6 trillion dollar corrupt stasi state. That’s why Strozk/Page were texting out in the open and McCabe was doing a book tour essentially admitting to treason as a means to hawk his books.

        I think a quid pro quo was made with mueller so that if he would stand down, his good buddy Bill Barr would be chosen as AG and no charges would be levelled. However, I think the noise level from the deplorables has been so deafening they now they realize they’re going to have to sacrifice a few mid level drones to ‘balance the scales’. It won’t.

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        • WSB says:

          I believe there was a deal made between President Trump and the Bush family one day before or the same day of Papa Bush’s funeral.

          He agreed to keep the JFK files under lock, no legacy harm to Papa Bush, and the Trump Administration would get Barr and full reign to go after Clinton and Obama.

          Mueller is too small of a player in my mind.

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          • Old Lady says:

            I agree with you. After the white envelope funeral things changed.

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          • Louisiana Tea Rose says:

            Wow, that’s an amazing theory! And I still wonder what was in those envelopes….WSB, I love it when Treepers think out loud.

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            • WSB says:

              IMHO, but it was like a light switch being flipped. Barr’s name was first made a public feature the day after the funeral.

              And although I have not seen a clip of the envelope event, inquiring minds want to know!

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              • Louisiana Tea Rose says:

                Again, WOW. I want some light bulbs like that!

                So, the more I think about this: HWB was plugged into China, and if we attributed the best intentions of the man to his efforts ther, I would say he wished for China to become a “free” nation. Whether that was true or now doesn’t matter now. That their culture supports Communism is bothersome when trying to bring them into the family of “free” nations, and I think it took a President Trump to bypass that…if there is ONE THING all nations can recognize and embrace, to the benefit of all, is the connection between TRADE and WEALTH. Amazing that such change can be had with this powerful weapon. And it took a man with that visceral understanding and a uncomman courage to apply it.

                No wonder he is so feared.

                God please keep your hand on this man.

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          • A good theory! Could have happened. I don’t see any of the BUSH family talking bad about the Trump since then!

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          • Blister Bill says:

            I don’t know about that. Like sessions and rotten rod, Mueller is a high treason co-conspirator. The mueller ‘investigation’ was the crime, the insurance policy–a coup. It was obvious when it was happening. And NO ONE was in the dark about what they were doing. It was orchestrated.

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            • WSB says:

              The Mueller investigation was the COVER UP.

              I think the Bush family made a deal or more of a truce, that is, in return for standing down when Barr starts taking down the other two crooked legs.

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        • I cordially submit that this is idle speculation that probably doesn’t warrant receiving “air time” here.

          There are a LOT of people within the Justice and the Intelligence communities which know that their institutions have been overrun by politics, mostly at the very, very top. This is not the way that those institutions think of themselves. So, yes, what you are seeing is “payback time,” but it’s not first-and-foremost Trump’s payback – it’s the institutions.

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    • beach lover says:

      Listening to just the first couple of these.. noticing Carl Cameron of Fox has all this info and has had for over 2 years. What has happened to him? Was he threatened? I mean.. this is huge information and explains a awful lot.

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      • WSB says:

        I post about Carl once in awhile. MIA since the night he was supposed to be on Justice with Janine Pirro. PT tweeted that we should all watch but he never showed up. His twitter account’s last posting was May 2,2018. Bill Binney was recently interviewed and suggested that the CIA got to Carl.

        I hope, at some point, we can all figure out what is going on under the table. His career was wiped out at age 55.

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    • littleanniefannie says:

      So if the HAMMER accessed bank records, why does Congress need to see Trump’s tax returns. They can just subpoena Brennan and Clapper and have them testify as to how much Trump wrote checks to the IRS. How about that Neal??

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  3. Skip says:

    Billions of dollars.

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  4. formerdem says:

    so so interesting, Sundance. Why isn’t anybody else working this out?

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  5. Brian Baker says:

    They were probably terrified by the leverage Trump could have had on folks in Washington DC if he operated like they did.

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  6. Obama’s tyrannical active spying and NSA data-mining on EVERYONE in positions of power … and everyone with whom they interacted … will likely make China’s Xi green with envy.

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    • C says:

      You just gave me pause for thought. It’s rather obvious but hear me out. Beyond Obama and his handler’s ideological purposes for bringing America into this dark place…I’m sure it was reinforced by .a realistic rationale; he couldn’t understand how to rein China in, so felt vindicated in doing this level of corruption and spying in order to compete with the Chinese at their own game. Sick.

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    • Lamont Cranston says:

      A mere 7 years after Americans were leaping to their terrifying deaths from WTC 95th floor windows to flee the jet fuel inferno 🔥caused by inbred👾, psychopath 😨 Moslem scum, America installed a sleazy, Moslem jihadist 😈 in our White House for 8 years. We suffered a Moslem CIA chief 👹 who still wreaks havoc on our great nation. We have vile hijabists in our Congress who must be screened for explosives 💣on a daily basis or be banned from the Capitol building, the 4th 9/11 Moslem target. What could possibly go wrong ? 💣💥 Too much “tick-tock” and zero “Lock em up.” MAGA/KAG👌

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    • sarasotosfan says:

      I am not sold on the notion Obama was smart enough to do this. I believe he was dumb enough to let it happen. He is an empty suit.

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  7. The Devilbat says:

    What else would one expect from a Soviet trained userpur such as Obama ???

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  8. Joe B says:

    Unlawful mass collection of data of innocent citizens in UK

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48597111

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  9. Zorro says:

    Not a smidgen of scandal but a whole schiffload.

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  10. jus wundrin says:

    Graham would be an American hero if he hauled mewlers carcass in front of his committee. Keep trying lindsey, and make sure both of your feet land on the right side of the fence!

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  11. TMonroe says:

    You see what the president is doing, and then you see what the GOP-controlled senate isn’t doing. You don’t need both houses to get hearings going. You don’t need both houses to adjust senate rules to finally seat and staff administration appointments, with the current term well over halfway-finished! Sickening.

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  12. LafnH20 says:

    Like no-one has Seen before in life.

    Mad Maxine Waters.

    .

    “When assembling a cabal, prudence dictates that one choose the participants with an eye toward circumspection.  After all, a loudmouth is not the best repository for your darkest secrets.”

    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/05/maxine_waters_let_obamas_cat_out_of_the_bag_in_2013.html

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  13. TarsTarkas says:

    If Her Odiousness had only listened to her husband, we wouldn’t be having this conversation . . .

    THANK GOD SHE DIDN’T!

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  14. Chiggerbug says:

    I. Do. Not. Trust. Lindsey. Graham.

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    • The Demon Slick says:

      He could blow up the democrats obstruction game by subpoenaing Mueller and ask him the hard questions. When did you know that there was no collusion? Why didn’t you tell us? Wtf were you doing all this time after that? But he won’t. Makes me so mad.

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      • cthulhu says:

        He could blow up the recess appointments BS if he decided to demonstrate that he had a pair. Any single Senator could.

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      • Rob says:

        They will need better questions than that.

        Q: When did you know that there was no collusion?
        A: We never stopped looking for it, just had not found it yet due to the multiple instances of obstruction we were having to deal with from a president that was possibly owned by a foreign power.

        The other two questions are invalid after the first answer.

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        • Mr. T. says:

          This is the entire excuse the coup plotters are using.

          “There were so many stories and connections about Russia and the elections and the Trump campaign, we had no choice but to look into it. We all acted in good faith to protect our country. In the end we didn’t find anything but we had a duty to look. I fact, we were obstructed from the truth by a couple of people lying along the way so that delayed our ability to find the truth. We may have made a few mistakes along the way but we had no ill intent. So don’t blame us for trying to protect the country.”

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    • sysconfig says:

      I could not agree more..He was quoted as saying he would never Support Trump even if they sent him to an re education camp…if he was serious then and now look at him..why should we believe him as being serious now? What would his new tact be if Trump were removed?
      From wiki leaks…and I hope those undecided here do all they can to support the great service to all of us..https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/27725
      This is an email of the Dems news clip summary of events used in their preparing strategy and responses. scrolling down to category republicans..

      Trump Civil War: Republican brothers John McCain and Lindsey Graham on different sides of battle WASHINGTON POST // PAUL KANE Sen. Lindsey Graham paused for five full seconds and stumbled over his words pondering the question: When is the last time he split with fellow Republican Sen. John McCain on a major issue? “I don’t know, let me think about it,” Graham (S.C.) finally said of his closest Senate friend. “There have been several. I just can’t recall right now, right off the top of my head.” Yet that’s what has happened in the wake of Donald Trump’s ascendancy to presumptive Republican nominee for president. In the Republican civil war over Trump, this is perhaps the most glaring example of two “brothers” fighting on opposite sides of the battlefield. It reflects a larger chasm in the Republican Party over whether to embrace the anti-establishment businessman that could end up costing the party the presidency in November. A former Trump rival in the presidential campaign, Graham is part of the anti-Trump coalition promising to never support the businessman — he has declared the presumptive GOP standard bearer’s positions anathema to conservatives on everything from immigration to fitness to oversee the world’s most powerful military. He told reporters Tuesday that “no re-education camp” would change his mind and added he would likely write someone else in for president when he casts his ballot this fall.

      let that sink in

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  15. MustangBlues says:

    President Trump won the presidency, and that hatched the schemes to get rid of him, because

    He won the Keys to the Secrets, and The Presidential Power to fight back, and succeed.

    Terrorizing the Swamp Kingdom, Killing the scam of the elites, rapers of The People,
    Thwarting the Coup with fools bait, setting the political traps, collecting binders full with evidence;

    Slowly but surely, Soon to see what got caught, and how to have to have Justice reward the Criminal Sedition by the Communist Manson Cult Children.

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  16. clr says:

    It seems to me the biggest (unstated) reason the report will take lots more time is the Department of State is now seriously involved in the investigation. Now everyone at State will need to be vetted for integrity. It’s a big, big deal because of international relationships.
    No reason not to start prosecution, though. So please get on with it.

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  17. MDNA I says:

    “Anyone targeted under such a sketchy legal predicate for lobbying violations, would unknowingly be carrying their Title-1 surveillance virus into every interaction. The downstream ramifications are almost beyond imagining….”

    When we learned from Mark Meadows on Sunday, IIRC, that there was to be an indefinite delay in the DOJ IG report, that struck me as something to wait for more info on… not a “red flag” so much as potential red flag

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  18. tonyE says:

    Besides the usual suspects…. I want to see Maxine Waters investigated for her income and how she got such a fancy house and how her husband got so rich.

    ‘Peach Maxine!
    ‘rrest Maxine!
    She didn’t do nuthin’ in Congress. Get her paychecks back.\!

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  19. Anyone targeted under such a sketchy legal predicate for lobbying violations, would unknowingly be carrying their Title-1 surveillance virus into every interaction. The downstream ramifications are almost beyond imagining….

    Can you imagine the ramifications from this? Especially considering the “two hop rule”? Let me just lay out a scenario. I, as a crooked FBI agent, have you under a Title-1 surveillance. I get proof that you are cheating on your wife. Now that obviously is not a crime. But I now have blackmail leverage on you. All I want you to do is to send an email or maybe make a phone call to a political opponent of a friend of a friend. It doesn’t matter what you say in the email or the phone call. It doesn’t matter if you know the person or have never heard of him. It doesn’t even matter if the person you are contacting is running for Senator, governor, or dog catcher. I now have my legal cover to spy on that person…and anyone he comes into contact with. And then get a Title-1 on that person. And the process repeats itself all over again.

    One crooked FBI agent with a Title-1 fraudulently obtained can wreak havoc. Now imagine what kind of damage could be caused by 10 crooked agents working as a team. It would be the difference between an earthquake registering as a 1.0 verses a 10.0.

    The entire FISA needs to be eliminated, along with all databases. We did just fine for almost 200 years without a FISA court system. I’m sure that we would be able to survive another 200 years without one. But how long can we survive with a FISA system that is being abused?

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    • MDNA I says:

      I looked back at 2017-2018 reporting on what Republicans were saying about the FISA abuse & both Senators Paul & Graham said, unequivocally, they believe they were under FISA surveillance prior to 2016

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    • beach lover says:

      Get rid of FISA? Yes. Especially since they have proven to fail at the one purpose it was designed to do.. stop terrorists. I mean Im sure they have stopped some, but when you focus so much of your attention on political enemies.. or even just for the heck of it… think Sharyl Attkisson, there’s not a lot of time for unknown people in far away lands.

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    • Immediately(!) after 9/11, the PATRIOT Act appeared – all 900 pages of it. It’s impossible for anyone to write that fast. So, it already existed, just waiting to be passed. And what would it actually be? It would be “ex post facto” justification for what was already going on.

      Yes, I think that we need to re-examine PATRIOT and similar legislation because one thing that we now certainly have proof of is that these systems can and will be used for illegal purposes – including purposes as banal as “spying on a political opponent.” We also see that “FBI Contractors(!)” could walk into the front door and walk out with thumb-drives filled with un-redacted information. (Note that Adm. Rogers probably made procedural changes as well as changing the software.)

      These capabilities, IF they are justifiable at all (which I doubt) are obviously out of control. This should be a “key take-away” from this national experience.

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    • Beau Geste says:

      The FISA court is complicit in the corruption. As a “Secret” Stat Chamber court, without any representation of the spied-on defendants, the FISC has an obligation to carefully examine all “Motions to spy”. The FISC was presented with “Motions to spy on a presidential candidate, elected president, and then president”. Extreme caution and examination was required, but ignored. There was no testimony or questions from the court in a recorded hearing (as happens in all public federal court proceedings) for historical record of such a constitutionally unprecedented assertion of spy-power. The FISA just said “OK”, Motion to spy on political enemy is granted”. When the FISC learned that the “MOtions to spy” were based on misrepresentation and fraud, it did nothing. An ordinary Federal Court would discipline lying counsel, and investigate the fraud, and withdraw fraudulently-obtained orders. The FISA court did nothing. It is complicit in the coup attempt.

      One solution would be to remove all FISC judges who participated in awarding the “Motions to spy on hillary’s opponent”, or who knew about the fraud and did nothing to discipline the under-oath liars and withdraw the fraudulently-obtained warrants.
      In addition, there should be a “FISA Public Defendant” function set up, which is authorized to review all FISA requests, and cross examine the FBI/DOJ witnesses so clear boondogles can be examined, and so there is a record. This would be somewhat like the defendant’s counsel in Court Martial proceedings. The “Public FISA Defender” office could file motions for discipline of false evidence, and to withdraw falsely-obtained warrants.

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  20. mtk says:

    The issue here, so it never happens again. Is an issue, none in DC circles even want to confront.

    403 PACs and the non- profit status they enjoy.

    That is where person enrichment via foreign capital and domestic aligned interests is meeting the pavement.

    The DC swamp, are junkies to the PACs.

    As such, any attempt to ween them off the corruption source is going to fall flat.

    Cold turkey is the only solution.

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  21. Unapologetic American Male says:

    I’ll NEVER trust Lispy Scram, he was against then candidate Donald J. Trump, he was part of John “I Killed 137 Of My Shipmates” McStain’s “Gang of Eight” amnesty cabal. I believe Sen. Scram is only backing OUR Commander-in-Chief now in order to save his own ass from being stood up against a wall post conviction as McStain HAD, just HAD to share the Pee-Pee Dossier with him, his “urinal pal” ….. Like many other RINOs/GOPEs Lispy of South Carolina’s supposed devotion to President Trump is suspect at best.

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  22. CM-TX says:

    Obama’s team approved MASSIVE illegal intel on Private Citizens during the 2016 Election:

    ***Above Stats Do NOT include the 702-queries conducted by the FBI***
    [ Assuming that also excludes the abusive access by FBI’s Private Contractors (Noted in FISC Ruling) ]

    Image Source:
    https://brassballs.blog/home/fisa-court-rules-obamas-team-approved-illegal-intel-on-30055-citizens-during-2016-presidential-election

    (FWIW: FISC Judge Collyer is supposedly cooperating with Horowitz’s inquiry into FISA abuses.)

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    • Actually, that would be 30,055 =searches= not that number of =different people.=

      In fact, I recall that she said in her Order that searches were repeatedly being done against the SAME people, i.e. that they were being tracked.

      And it’s rather stunning to me to consider someone being SO OBSESSED that they would conduct that many illegal searches against the same targets. This is one of the most exhaustive surveillance databases known (to the public), and they apparently just couldn’t get enough of it. Very strange.

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  23. Annie says:

    So THIS is why Sally Yates wrote that 50+ page memo telling the OIG to pound sand. Remember? It was BREATHTAKING. And entire department, DOJ-NSD telling the INSPECTOR GENERAL he couldn’t do his job, he wouldn’t be allowed to see/know what they were up to. It wasn’t just another in the conga line of F.U.’s from the Obama Administration. It was because they were committing fraud upon the court on an INDUSTRIAL SCALE, using their “sketchy” legal theory in FARA. As Sundance said, the downstream ramifications of that “virus” are UNFATHOMABLE. No WONDER Devin Nunes was white as a ghost that day in the spring of 2017 on the White House lawn. My God. Makes the idea of John Roberts’ being blackmailed re: Obamacare all the more plausible now. (Rumor was he adopted his kids out of Ireland via South America, which is illegal.)

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  24. iwasthere says:

    OMG, you have got to be kidding me. FARA violation as a FISA predicate. WTH, if they were using FARA they were probably using the Logan Act as well. Unreal that the FISA Court would accept such a filling. As we all know people, with the 2 step from the target rule, you would only need a dozen or 2 title-I FISA warrants to cover everyone in DC for certain everyone on capital hill. This does make sense Sundance with the FARA prosecutions by Mueller.

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    • beach lover says:

      They had stuff on the judges as well. See how this works? Information or a way to plant it on a computer is some pretty powerful ammunition.

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  25. Justin Green says:

    I thought a FISA warrant had to start at least start with a foreign national before you could “unmask” Americans. Not merely a US Citizen who might be violating FARA.

    Not as if that’s a difficult first step to fabricate, especially if you’re using foreign FBI assets as a predicate, but still…

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  26. LEET says:

    The ramifications are not beyond imaginable for me. I have imagined that congress swamp members were ALL being spied on, and many bribed, blackmailed and/or threatened. How else do you explain the 2010 tsunami of tea party candidates being elected to congress and most being absorbed into and voting with the establishment in no time. Also, how else do you explain footage of people like Feinstein and Schumer, Pelosi, etc from 15 years advocating for stronger borders and against illegal immigration and now they all espouse open borders.
    I wonder how much of it is that and also how many are owned by Chinese lobbyists, probably a combination of these things has the majority of congress owned and working against the interests of American citizens!

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  27. covfefe999 says:

    I’m so glad it’s June 2019 right now and not Dec 2019 or some month in 2020. Timing is crucial, the results of Barr’s investigation need to be released prior to the 2020 election at the very latest, but preferable before the primaries. Piecing together all of the dirty deeds and crimes of the traitors is complex work. It needs to be done in a thorough manner. It needs to be bullet proof.

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  28. Bogeyfree says:

    If Barr “accepts” FARA as their legal and proper by the book predicate to allow the spying and gathering data on millions of Americans then Barr is nothing more than another black hat just looking for a way to justify and bury all of this before the elections.

    If this is the route it goes which seems very likely, remember the by the book comment, then the American people should demand the laws are changed whereby no lobbying, no donations coupled with heavy audits to ensure our “honest” representatives in Congress do not have their hands in the lobbying cookie jar.

    This with terms limits and a return to stipend pay for all of Congress is a must if we want to return the power back to the people as our founding fathers designed.

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    • littleanniefannie says:

      And if that is the case, then he MUST ensure that the Podesta Group and all officers have accommodations adjoining Manafort. Bet ties to Iran would be pretty easy to find there.

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  29. Bogeyfree says:

    I ask again,

    Why did Adm. Rodgers who served as Director of NSA from 4/14-5/18 only go back and audit the NSA queries from 11/15 – 4/16?

    If you were the Director going back to April 2014 would you not at least want to know under you watch how many illegal searches were done?

    Instead of doing just 6 month review he could have done a 2 year review and imagine what that may have shown.

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    • Jim Comey is a weasel_Doug says:

      I would love to see is it month by month layout of the violations 1/20/17 back 6 months.

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    • Strictly speaking, we don’t know all of what he might have done. The audit records are still there. Probably, he searched specifically within a time-period that would contain the illegal activities that were directly relevant to the FISA Court proceedings. We are not privileged to know every detail.

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  30. littleanniefannie says:

    U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly denied an FBI attempt for the DCNF to FOIA documents on Daniel Richman’s role at the FBI and his “business” relationship with Jungle Gym Comey. This should make for interesting reading unless the FBI continues to stonewall.
    And before the radicals start screaming, she was appointed by Bill Clinton AND is a former presiding judge on the FISC!

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  31. covfefe999 says:

    The FISA warrrant application says, on page 2:

    The target of this application is Carter W. Page, a U.S. person, and an agent of a foreign power, described in detail below.

    This is a FISA-defined agent. The traitors then proceed to map out that Page fits the criteria of a FISA-defined agent. FARA doesn’t appear to have been employed (unless I missed it).

    Mueller’s report includes this footnote:

    The FISC’s probable-cause finding was based on a different (and lower) standard than the one governing the Office’s decision whether to bring charges against Page

    I don’t understand why anyone is linking this to FARA.

    As I posted above, Lawfare has a great article about the difference between a FISA-defined agent and a FARA-defined agent. They are different and have different criteria. I don’t see any indication anywhere that Page was ever accused of being a FARA-defined agent. https://www.lawfareblog.com/flynn-fisa-and-fara-foreign-principals-and-agents-foreign-powers

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    • covfefe999 says:

      Just for further clarity, the various “agents” have different names:

      FISA “agent of a foreign power” comes from 50 U.S. Code § 1801

      FARA “agent of a foreign principle” comes from 22 U.S. Code § 611

      There is also 18 U.S. Code § 951 “agents of foreign government” which doesn’t seem to be attached to either FISA or FARA.

      I see no invocation of FARA at all in the surveillance of Page.

      But I am horribly offended that Strzok and the other keystone FBI cops can accuse him of being one, and then present their crap evidence to an asleep-at-the wheel FISC judge to get permission to surveil the entire Trump team including Trump himself, FOR A YEAR, including the transition period and Trump’s first 9 months in office. The target of the FISA warrant application cannot defend himself so it’s up to the FISC judge to scrutinize the evidence and make sure that the target is indeed what he is accused of being, especially if the target is a US citizen, and especially especially if the target is within two hops of a presidential candidate or the President! I’m just so outraged by this.

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      • covfefe999 says:

        The more I think about this the more the cold anger wells up inside of me.

        Mueller’s team knew that Page was improperly classified as a FISA “agent of a foreign power” to get the surveillance warrant, but they didn’t have any evidence that Page was one. In fact, they knew, as did the traitors who requested the FISA warrant, that Page had been a source for the FBI and/or CIA. But they had to mention it, so they blew it off in a footnote. Oh, well, the FISC had a lower standard and we’re using a higher standard for charging. Like it’s OK to accuse someone of being an agent of a foreign power committing crimes in order to surveil them and everyone within two hops, but then not have any evidence to actually CHARGE them with crimes.

        I think the FISC needs to be shut down. Those judges are totally incompetent allowing this to happen. And all of the people who signed that FISA warrant original application and renewals need to be jailed. Comey, Yates, Boente, Rosenstein … who else?

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        • covfefe999 says:

          Comey, Yates, Boente, Rosenstein and McCabe. All sh*t. To those of you who still cling to the notion that Rosenstein is a good person, just remember he didn’t bother to verify that the FISA warrant application on Page had any credible evidence in it. When he was pressed to state whether or not he actually read the application, I believe he refused to state that he did or didn’t. IIRC he got upset and said something about not having the time to read everything, or something to that effect. I could be wrong about this so will try to find the clip of the hearing. He’s sh*t, just like the rest of them. And Collyer and the other FISC judges appear to be incompetent.

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          • covfefe999 says:

            Transcript of Gaetz questioning Rosenstein, including the part about whether or not Rosenstein actually read the FISA warrant application before he signed it. https://gaetz.house.gov/media/press-releases/congressman-matt-gaetz-grills-deputy-ag-rosenstein-rosenstein-evades-questions I think we can reasonably conclude that Rosenstein DID NOT read the application before signing it. Total sh*t.

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          • Beau Geste says:

            C999, the FISC judges are not “incompetent”, they are “complicit”. They are entrusted with protecting the 4th Amendment and other constitutional protections against evil sexcret Star Chamber behavior. They are all smart enough to know that a “motion to spy on hillary’s presidential election opponent” is a constitutional issue of major importance. The failed to examine the motion evidence, or even hold a hearing to examine and question its foundation under oath. After learning the DOJ/FBI representations were false, misleading and incomplete, the FISC judges did nothing. They did not initiate disciplinary proceedings, which ANY NON-SECRET FEDERAL COURT would do. They did not withdraw the fraudulently-obtained warrants “nunc pro tunc”, as would any honest Federal court. They have responsibilities, which they have knowingly ignored in support of fraud and illegal political spying. They themselves are likely subjects of illegal surveillance under project Hammer.

            At a minimum, those FISC judges who participated in, or failed to correct the political spying fraud should be removed, and a “Public Defender Office” should be set up to evaluate DOJ/FBI overreach, and compel testimony for the record, in FISC proceedings. The “Public FISC Defender Office” could seek discipline/disbarment of DOJ/FBI lies, and withdrawal of improperly-obtained warrants.

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            • Blister Bill says:

              They are complicitExactly. Another great post. It went down like this: So, you want to spy on the Trump campaign? Where do I sign and what took you so long to ask?

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              • Beau Geste says:

                And, “Its a good thing this way to get around the 4th Amendment is secret, so no-one can ever check your false allegations. And please send hillary my best regards…(maybe I’d like a Supreme Court Appointment?”

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      • Daniel says:

        You’re far too generous with these FISC judges. From the released texts, we learned Strzok and at least one FISC judge were friends or at least quite friendly with one another. We’ve got corrupt politicians, corrupt law enforcement and corrupt deep state bureaucrats along with a very corrupt, complicit and cooperative media. Would anyone be surprised, or more to the point, is anyone not expecting to find the FISC is also corrupt?

        After all, with all of the activist judges infecting the judiciary at large, why are we even dancing around this?

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        • covfefe999 says:

          I’m sure you’re right. We were privvy to the Strzok “We’ll stop him” text message. We don’t see the private messages that the other traitors have sent, I’m sure they’re just as bad. It’s one thing to do what you can as a private citizen to ensure that your candidate wins or the opposing candidate loses, but another to abuse your position of power and engage in illegal activities to affect the outcome of an election. That’s treason, IMO. And the traitors nearly defrauded every citizen who rightfully voted for Trump.

          Oh my God if Hillary had won we would never know about any of this. It’s incredibly scary to think about.

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      • jebg46 says:

        Did Collyer even realize that CarterPage FISA would allow a 2 hop into Trump? I’m beginning to think she had no clue.

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  32. TwoLaine says:

    I would like to have Barack Hussein Obama, The Kenyan, interrogated about what he said, repeatedly:

    “Donald TRUMP will NEVER BE PRESIDENT.”

    If an American Presidential Candidate/Nominee and then President can be illegally surveilled and investigated for years for simply joking about the Russians finding ILLary’s missing emails on a stage in jest, then the man in charge of the team behind the “insurance policy” MUST BE INTERROGATED too.

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    • Louisiana Tea Rose says:

      Don’t hang your hat on it. Americans are just not willing to go there. I trust the damage will done, and he will simply be left on the side of the road like an empty Popeye’s Chicken box…(it was good tol it was gone…)

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      • Louisiana Tea Rose says:

        Til. Ya’ll know

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      • TwoLaine says:

        Let e be clear, It was NEVER good. Period.

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        • Louisiana Tea Rose says:

          You’ve never had Popeye’s?

          Our country elected a biracial President, and it was bipartisan. That WAS GOOD. It puts all the left’s rhetoric about race and identity politics in the dustbin, where it SHOULD be.

          I highly recommend the Spicy Recipe. Thighs. Killer.

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          • TwoLaine says:

            Yes, I’ve had Popeyes. I agree on your recommendations there too. Killer. Try it with some STOOPIT BBQ Butter.

            https://deskgram.net/p/2056953844890608683_273174065

            I was talking about the Kenyan. I don’t believe we had free and fair elections, but ok. Yes, WE moved on.

            That doesn’t mean that a former President cannot go down for what has clearly been a coup, and a prolonged and multifaceted attempted overthrow of a duly elected President of the United States of America.

            The law is suppsed to be blind, not stupid.

            The Kenyan violated the sanctity of his oath to protect American citizens from threats, foreign and domestic. Even worse, he threatened the Presidency of the United States of America and the incoming President.

            He is specifically taxed with a Peaceful Transfer of Power. I don’t think President TRUMP or any of his team member, past and present will consider this a peaceful transfer.

            He also violated our Constitutional right to vote in free and fair elections (2016).

            I can go on. 😉

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            • Louisiana Tea Rose says:

              Oh, I don’t for a minute think he SHOULD get away with it…you would be forced to push me out of the way to get to him if it came to applying justice. My point is that THE COUNTRY would not have the stomach for it. I gauge that right up there with impeachment. Close to half the country views all this crap through a political lens, not a criminal one. I just am not sure if the citizens would endorse going after him. I also think if it came to that, President Trump would stop it.

              “I will not allow to happen to another President what HE DID TO ME”

              Just saying….

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  33. Daniel says:

    Been saying this for a while. We know FISA judges were on a first-name-basis with the FBI people involved in this FISA abuse. We also know the information provided to the FISC wasn’t proper. “how is it anything else?” (quote from the video) How long before we find the FISA judges knew the information was bad and approved it anyway?

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    • Beau Geste says:

      Daniel, even now that we know the FISA judges know the FISA warrant was fraudulently obtained, the FISA judges have done nothing. They have not even disciplined the DOJ/FBI attorneys and truth-swearers under-oath. They have not formally withdrawn the illegally-obtained warrant as “improvidently granted”. They now know the facts of unreliability of the pee pee dossier, that Carter Page, halper , turk-honeypot, are cia/FBI agents, etc. Appalling that they still do nothing – not even an order to the mewler crew to show cause why they should not be disciplined.

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  34. DJT2020 says:

    Still waiting for Graham to introduce immigration reform legislation like he said he would. Until he does so he is basically dead to me.

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  35. Jederman says:

    The obama spying/chicago style politics story will be a blockbuster for the ages.

    Whoever has the skill and courage to tell the story of the abuse of fed power in order to force the “fundamental transformation” sought by the Left, and the abandonment of the peaceful transfer of power based on fair elections will not be telling a new story.

    He/she will be adding the American chapter to same old story of the deceitful, failed and craven Left’s quest for power and control. If their ideas were sound, productive and embraced by the majority they wouldn’t have to blackmail and threaten people to support them.

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  36. mortgagesforthemasses says:

    The downstream ramifications from the spying isn’t that difficult for me to imagine considering the hands off approach to the Obama administration by everyone. I have never seen such a lawless administration immune from criticism and political opposition. The Uniparty doesn’t explain everything. I suspect the mother of all blackmail rackets, as well as the sale of valuable information.

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  37. LULU says:

    Article by Eric Felten at RealClear Investigations:

    It Started With a Lie: Bruce Ohr’s Linchpin Role in Russiagate

    Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr was perfectly positioned to advance the Russia collusion narrative. He had a rare set of relationships — ties to opposition researchers and the FBI — and would use his links to both in 2016 to connect federal law enforcement to those advancing Trump-Russia conspiracy theories.

    More here:

    https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/06/10/it_started_with_a_lie_bruce_ohrs_linchpin_role_in_russiagate.html

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  38. Am I understanding the scope of this correctly? Lobbyists violate FARA (maybe they do, maybe they don’t). Actually, example.

    – Lobbyist is FISA target.
    – Lobbyist talks to every congressman, staffer, senator, journalist. That’s ONE hop.
    – Anyone who contacts or is contacted by those people is TWO hops: all constituents, all interviews by journalists, pretty much everyone who could be surveilled is probably in that net somewhere.

    Please tell me I’m misunderstanding this because if this is what the Obama administration was up to for 6-8 years, there needs to be severe, drastic, and immediate consequences of seismic proportions.

    Hope I’m wrong.

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    • Beau Geste says:

      leroy, also if the “lobbyist” or other alleged “Foreign agent” is complicit with the crooked DOJ/FBI spying scam, the now-spied-on-lobbyist” can send emails or call ANYONE that the DOJ/FBI wants to spy on. That person is then spied on at will by the DOJ/FBI under one-hop. Any communication by a person sent the entrapping communication, to anyone else, is also spied on (“what do you think about this …”). They write their own spy-warrant on whoever they want to entrap, and whoever that person communicates with, without having to even file a crooked motion to the FISC court. A complicit DOJ/FBI “lobbyist” or other conspirator can tailor the messages to entrap anyone.

      Interestingly, it turns out that Carter Page has been a CIA/FBI associate for a long time, yet was the subject of a fraudulently obtained FISA Warrant. Anyone that Page contacted (anyone in the Trunp campaign), and anyone those people contacted, were under the spy-warrant to be spied on.

      The DOJ/FBI know their “motions to spy under 2-hop rule” will never see the light of day because the FISC is secret and unaudited. . This is too easy for a crooked DOJ/FBI not to do….We need Brandeis’ sunlight as the best disinfectant.

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    • rcogburn says:

      I hope so too.

      “The President has put in place an organization with the kind of database that no one has ever seen before in life. That’s going to be very, very powerful. That database will have information about everything on every individual on ways that it’s never been done before and whoever runs for President on the Democratic ticket has to deal with that. They’re going to go down with that database and the concerns of those people because they can’t get around it. And he’s [President Obama] been very smart. It’s very powerful what he’s leaving in place.”
      Maxine Waters 2013

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  39. boomerbeth says:

    IG Horowitz is a company man.

    He’s like the coroner informing the prosecutor that the murderer is the cadaver on the table
    Why do you think he continues to get these plum jobs as IG? wonder how much he makes?

    CRIMINAL REFERRALS FROM HIM ARE FOR PRESENTLY EMPLOYED “SES” EXECUTIVE BRANCH “CAST” MEMBERS

    No “referral” from him will be perp-walked.

    https://patriots4truth.org/2019/05/30/horowitz-protects-the-swamp/

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  40. Jackson says:

    Time is running out for Trump. Horowitz dicking around needs to come to an end, ASAP. We know Horowitz is powerless. He can say “tisk, tisk, rules were broken” but he can’t indict people. But he does a damn good job of blocking prosecution of anyone. Barr told us this: Huber wasn’t able to investigate and charge because he might interfere with Horowitz, whose been doing his FISA investigation for 14 months now. Enough, he really needs to wrap that up and get out of the damn way. Durham (assuming he’s legit) can investigate anything Horowitz can, but can also bring indictments, get people arrested, and maybe even do some 5 AM Swat raids on Deep State types.

    Anything other than indindictments is politically useless to Trump. Even though it’s all based on ridiculous claims, the Dems are doing a great job of making Trump seem like a ethically compromised guy, which will likely pay dividends in 2020. You see this in the Biden / Trump (and other Dems / Trump) polling, which puts Biden 15 points ahead.

    The only thing that is going to change the narrative and put the Democrats back on their heals are a series of high-profile indictmnets of Obama era officials. But they need to come soon. January 2020 is too late, it’s the middle of the campaign. After impeachment is too late, anything done at that point will be dismissed as vindictive, not genuine.

    And anything not well underway on Jan 21, 2021 will likely simply be ended by the incoming Democratic administraiton. Really, you need to indict, arrest, try and convict by the end of 2020.

    We’re not on a pace to do that, and it’s infuriating.

    So, Horowitz: wrap it up ASAP! Durham, get to work. And let’s have Roger Stone type 4AM SWAT raids on the homes of various Team Obamacriminals. Sooner rather than too-later.

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    • 6x47 says:

      The indications from Barr is he won’t allow an internal review by the IG impede prosecution of criminal referrals. The US Attorney trumps the IG in the hierarchy of justice.

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      • Jackson says:

        RE: Barr is he won’t allow an internal review by the IG impede prosecution of criminal referrals.

        ME: I didn’t get that from this comment, which is the only one on the topic I’ve seen from him.

        JAN CRAWFORD: Um, what’s the status of Huber’s investigation in Utah? I think the former Attorney General Sessions had asked him to look at this.

        WILLIAM BARR: Right, so Huber had originally been asked to take a look at the FISA applications and the electronic surveillance but then he stood back and put that on hold while the Office of Inspector General was conducting its review, which would’ve been normal for the department. And he was essentially on standby in case Mr. Horowitz referred a matter to him to be handled criminally. So he has not been active on this front in recent months and so Durham is taking over that role. The other issues he’s been working on relate to Hillary Clinton. Those are winding down and hopefully we’ll be in a position to bring those to fruition.

        ME: He seems to agree that it’s “normal for the department” for U.S. Attorney’s to sit around waiting for IG’s to finish their work and throw some scraps over the fence to them.

        This is why I want Horowitz to get to the end of his job, so Durham can indict, indict, indict. Any delay or (especially) increase in scope and more investigation is bad. Time is wasting, the re-election campaign is upon us.

        We need to get to the good stuff SOON, not next June after the narrative of “Trump borderline crook” has been allowed to go un-rebutted for another year!

        Perp walks NOW!

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    • boomerbeth says:

      Huber was a straw man . He never even made a press release, Sessions turned out to be the opposite of his public persona. He was a campaign spy.

      Horowitz is slow walking the investigation as you lay out.
      Durham cud have been appointed by Sessions.
      The Dems fully intend to fraction magic/black box EVERY STATE COMPUTER this time. In the past, it was just battleground & blue states.

      No way will the evil psychopaths in the dem party lose control of the Jouse.The will cheat to get the senate. to remove trump in term 2
      http://blackboxvoting.org/fraction-magic-1/

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      • Blister Bill says:

        Spot on Beth. Horowitz is an Obama appointee, Obama voter and Obama lover. His wife gave to the Obola campaign. This is a pathetic farce.

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  41. Senator Graham operates independent of the judiciary. But as the country song says, we need “a little less talk and a lot more action.” Don’t sit on the side of the bed and tell us how good it’s going to be. Get busy. Quit talking about it and do your duty.

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  42. Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

    This is GOBSMACKING…..

    FARA itself is so loosely defined that my dog could be considered a “foreign agent” for catching a rabbit (free meal) from my Taiwanese neighbor’s lawn .

    The DOJ NEVER prosecutes FARA violations……..
    (the exception being Manafort and to extent Flynn and PapaD)

    THIS WOULD EXPLAIN WHY.
    They would lose their surveillance vector if they did.

    NOW add-in
    1) TWO HOP and
    2) 702

    That is a MASSIVE surveillance net

    Great catch SD!

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    • lurker2 says:

      There’s no evidence (yet) that Page was a FARA target. SD just says there’s a possibility (he says “strong”).

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      • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

        Not trying to be contrary….but I did not mention Page.
        Flynn was alleged Turkey
        PapaD was alleged Israeli

        Not sure if you’re missing the bigger picture here.

        He’s saying the DOJ-NSD may have been using “alleged violations of FARA” by ANYONE to justify obtaining Title-1 FISA warrant on that person.

        Under this scenario…..DOJ could make FARA violation allegations against virtually anyone who has any contact with a foreign national that they would like to target.

        And surveil them.

        Hopefully Durham gets opportunity to ask John Carlin.

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        • lurker2 says:

          I’m not even buying that FARA violations have been used to secure FISA warrants. The OIG document makes a connection between FARA and Section 951, but Section 951 is not FISA. FISA has its own definitions and requirements.

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          • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

            You mean like the requirement that only verified information be a part of it?

            You mean like the target must be acting as an agent of a foreign country AND committing or about to commit a crime?

            That a FISA application be subjected to a Woods procedure?

            (Page was indicted for NOTHING but somehow had a FISA warrant approved and RENEWED 3 times)

            Have you not been paying attention?
            THEY DON”T FOLLOW THE RULES.

            Read the April 2017 FISA Court Report to see their capacity to IGNORE and VIOLATE all requirements.

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  43. willthesuevi says:

    Is it just me or Does Senator Graham seem almost giddy in this interview. A little out of character and not sure what I make of it. Hopeful I guess.
    I am getting tired of the constant “we got ’em now” , breathless exclamations. Past ready for these people to fish or cut bait.

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  44. dayallaxeded says:

    The contrarian in me would really love to see exactly the Gotterdammerung SD hints at, if the 2-3 hop surveillance apparatus were activated against all questionable lobbying practices/persons. That is, if all the info produced was released to We the People and prosecutors working on behalf of We the People, as opposed to the present system that works against us.

    And in the same vein, once again, I plead, beg, demand, scream, cajole, and request that VSGPDJT “RELEASE THE KRAKEN” of all the BS classified BS from the planning of “Cross-fire Hurricane” through the conclusion of Mulehead’s 40 Mule-headed Angry Dementocrats Team’s BS snort/report, and the current back-channel connections between House Demontocrats, LawFare and deepstaters in DOinJ, FIB, and CYA.

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  45. lurker2 says:

    I think FISA needs to be revamped in order to protect against the abuses that were committed. I’m reading a really interesting document produced by the Brennan Center for Justice (named after William, not John!). https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/analysis/What_Went_%20Wrong_With_The_FISA_Court.pdf There are a lot of glaring loopholes and lack of checks. I found these most disturbing:

    Under Title III, the government must demonstrate probably cause to believe that particular communications concerning specified crimes will be obtained through an interception. Under FISA, the government instead must show probable cause that the facilities at which the surveillance is directed are used by a foreign power or its agent; it need not show probable cause that collecting on these facilities will yield the desired information.

    Title III requires notice to the target (and, within the discretion of the judge, to other persons whose communications were intercepted) once the surveillance order expires. FISA does not require notice [to the target] unless the government “intends to enter into evidence or otherwise use or disclose” such communications in a trial or other legal proceedings.

    The cabal knew they if they used FISA they wouldn’t need to show that there was a reasonable change of capturing any incriminating info. And because they never intended to charge Carter Page with any crimes they wouldn’t need to notify Page or any of the other people whose communications were ensnared. This is why FISA was so useful to them. And this is why Mueller said there was a different/lower standard for securing the warrant compared to charging Page with crimes.

    Lisa Page and someone else said the insurance policy referred to burning an FBI source. I have a feeling it wasn’t just burning a source, but using a source as a fake FISA target who they knew in advance they would never charge with any crimes. The purpose of the warrant was simply to collect info on Trump and Trump’s associates.

    They need to get rid of the two-hope rule. I read that it used to be THREE! Can you imagine? Two is bad enough, then some ancillary person like Page can wreak havoc on the President of the United States. Who knew this could happen?

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    • justlizzyp says:

      Very early on in this process, Sundance described the FISA process and said that one of the things the government needed to prove in order to be granted a FISA warrant was that they had no other means of obtaining the information. I’ve always wondered how Comey squares that with the fact that Carter Page apparently sent him a letter the month before saying ‘I hear you’re asking about me, I’d be happy to come in and talk with you anytime.’

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    • dayallaxeded says:

      Real simple: Repeal Patriot Act. Repeal FISA. Disband secret Star-Chamber courts. Return to the Constitution with respect to all gummint interfaces with citizens. Deny Constitutional protections to all non-citizens. QED.

      None of the unconstitutional BS from the Patriot Act has stopped any terrorist action. Limitation of constitutional protections to citizens only would’ve probably stopped at least a few–e.g., 911 hijackers should’ve been denied FL driver’s licenses and the ability to obtain flight training, etc.

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  46. justlizzyp says:

    Considering the possibilities raised by exploiting FARA violations to effectively open up all of DC to FISA surveillance….

    for some reason I find myself wondering again about the failure of the Obamacare website and the reports of thousands of lines of unnecessary code. I wondered then if ‘sOmeone’ had attempted to use that for multiple purposes and that part of the reason it failed was conflicting coding due to the effort to populate multiple databases. Then Auntie Maxine started blathering about the database thing and I figured maybe I wasn’t completely paranoid but that it was unlikely they’d been able to tinker with it that way. Now I think it was entirely possible that they did.

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