Secretary of State Mike Pompeo Holds Press Conference on Venezuela…

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo holds a press conference on the crisis in Venezuela, and introduces Elliot Abrams as the primary U.S. liaison and point-of-contact for the Venezuela Democracy Initiative.

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[Transcript] SECRETARY POMPEO: Good afternoon, everyone. Today I am incredibly excited to announce that a seasoned, principled, and tough-minded foreign policy veteran is joining our State Department team. Elliott Abrams is coming aboard to lead our efforts on Venezuela.

His critical work will get started right away. Tomorrow, he will travel with me to the UN Security Council, where the United States has called a long overdue meeting to urge other nations to support Venezuela’s democratic transition.

Elliott’s long career in foreign affairs includes a great deal of time as a senior leader in this very organization. Under President Reagan, he served as assistant secretary of state for human rights and humanitarian affairs and assistant secretary for inter-American affairs as well.

Under President George W. Bush, he served on the National Security Council as the senior director for democracy, human rights, and international affairs; senior director for North African and Near East affairs; and deputy national security adviser for global democracy strategy.

Elliott’s passion for the rights and liberties of all peoples makes him a perfect fit and a valuable and timely addition. This week, the Venezuelan people have rejected former President Maduro’s illegitimate rule. Consistent with Venezuela’s constitution, and with the support of the Venezuelan people and the National Assembly, Juan Guaido has declared himself the interim president of Venezuela.

These are just the first steps on Venezuela’s road to liberty. Elliott will be a true asset to our mission to help the Venezuelan people fully restore democracy and prosperity to their country.

On this issue and all others, he is eager to advance President Trump’s agenda and promote the ideals and interests of the American people.

And now Elliott would like to say a few words.

MR ABRAMS: Thank you. Very briefly, I left this building 30 years ago this week, last time I worked here. So it’s very nice to be back. This crisis in Venezuela is deep and difficult and dangerous, and I can’t wait to get to work on it. Thank you.

SECRETARY POMPEO: Thanks.

MR PALLADINO: All right, guys, we’ve got time for a question or two. Nick Wadhams, Bloomberg, please.

QUESTION: Mr. Secretary.

SECRETARY POMPEO: Yes, sir.

QUESTION: Can you talk a little bit – in a little bit more detail about what Mr. Abrams will be doing, what will his first task be, what will his chief focus be, will he travel to the region? And also, can you talk a little bit about some of the – what will happen to Venezuela’s overseas assets? For example, the gold that it has in the Bank of England, money it has in overseas accounts – will the expectation be that the interim president would have control over those funds?

SECRETARY POMPEO: Well, as to your first question, Elliott will have responsibility for all things related to our efforts to restore democracy in Venezuela. It’s a global challenge. There are multiple dimensions to how we hope to assist the Venezuelans in achieving democracy there, and he will be responsible for leading that effort.

We have an enormous team here that’s done truly remarkable work to date to get us to the point we are at today, and they’ve done this over certainly my eight months, but long preceding that as well. I’m incredibly proud of the work that our State Department team has done to date. Elliott will now lead our effort that relates directly to our efforts on behalf of the Venezuelan people.

I would expect, though, that his first task will be to get up to speed and then travel with me to New York tomorrow morning for the UN Security Council meeting. And after that, I couldn’t tell you where it will take him. Wouldn’t surprise me if he ends up traveling to the region, but what – the road ahead will be driven by the demands of the Venezuelan people and how we can assist them in achieving the outcome that America wants them to achieve.

QUESTION: And on the overseas assets?

SECRETARY POMPEO: On the overseas assets, we’ll have announcements from other places later today talking about how it is that we anticipate the interim President Juan Guaido will have the resources he needs to lead the Government of Venezuela forward.

MR PALLADINO: Let’s take a question from South America, so NTN. Gustau, please.

QUESTION: NTN 24, Gustau Alegret. Among the countries that has not recognized Juan Guaido as president are Mexico and Uruguay, and both countries has offered their diplomacies in order to help in the crisis. Is the U.S. thinking to work with them, or is the U.S. asking them to recognize Guaido? What’s the position of the State Department with these two countries?

SECRETARY POMPEO: Well, we think every country ought to recognize the constitutional leader of Venezuela, and that’s who the United States has concluded Juan Guaido is, the interim president of Venezuela. We think every country ought to recognize the Venezuelan constitution, the demands of the Venezuelan people.

So whether it is Mexico or Uruguay or any other country, we hope to work with them to achieve the sense that we can ultimately have a free and fair election in Venezuela, where the voices of the Venezuelan people who, under the Maduro regime, have been starved. Enormous medical and humanitarian situation in Colombia, more than a million refugees have fled the horrors of the Maduro regime. We’ll work with all nations to try and achieve that outcome. We think every country ought to take steps towards achieving that, and not side with this cruel dictator in Venezuela who has caused so much devastation for the people of Venezuela.

MR PALLADINO: Wrap it up, sir?

SECRETARY POMPEO: I think one more.

MR PALLADINO: Let’s go to Washington Post. Carol Morello.

QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, I think a lot of people are concerned about the diplomats who are down there. Would you tell us what you’re prepared to do if tomorrow, when the 72-hour deadline passes, they – the Venezuelans cut off electricity and water, maybe even surround the building, or even try to go in to bring out the diplomats by force? Could you be specific about what you are prepared to do in the event of any of these scenarios? And how can you assure people that they are protected?

SECRETARY POMPEO: I appreciate that question. There’s been no activity that’s taken more of our time over the past days than ensuring the protection of all those folks that are under our chief of mission authority there in Venezuela. We’re working diligently to make sure that they are protected. There’s no higher priority for the Secretary of State, and you should know no higher priority for the President of the United States. We have discussed this at some length.

With respect to the way we will deliver that, we’ve made clear to everyone that it is our expectation that the U.S. officials that are there, that have now been invited to be there by interim President Juan Guaido have a right, they have the privileges and immunities that accrue to having been invited to be there by the duly credentialed leader of Venezuela, and we have every expectation that those rights will continue to be protected.

You would have seen today that we have ordered a – have an ordered departure. We’re beginning to move some of our staff out. This is consistent with what the State Department does every day. The first briefing I get every morning is all around the world, every mission, every consulate, every facility where we have officers, I receive a briefing on risk and risk analysis. We’ll continue to do that in Venezuela. It is literally a 24/7, moment-by-moment exercise to evaluate risk to the people who work for me in the State Department, and we’ll get this right. We will make sure that we protect our folks on the ground and take all appropriate measures to ensure that they’re protected.

Thank you.

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217 Responses to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo Holds Press Conference on Venezuela…

  1. Mac says:

    I don’t give a damn about Venezuela. They made their bed, they can sleep in it. They deserve everything they voted for and other countries should tell their people that they’re not welcome to export their idiocy abroad.

    They knew what they wanted and now they’re getting it–good and hard. What is most ironic is that in a country with vast resources of petroleum, they’re getting it without lube!

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    • Publius2016 says:

      Venezuela is one main piece in the worldwide narco and sexual traffic trade…it is in our national interests to have a stable country in our hemisphere without Russian or Chinese status: Monroe Doctrine!

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      • sat0422 says:

        The REAL news reports that China, Russia, and Cuba are now aligning themselves with the cruel Dictator, Maduro. That puts 4 distinct governments polar opposite of the Constitutional Republic of the USA in this hemisphere. That ought to have you searching for new underwear this morning if you understand what that means.

        I can remember as a child how afraid we were when news of Khrushchev and his threat to deliver missiles from Cuba to the USA broke the news. It was as they say, a HOT TIME, in the USA. I was just old enough to understand that we were threatened and the threat was real.

        Nancy and the DemocRATS are playing with fire when they chant, “No Border Wall.” You can take that statement to the bank.

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        • czarowniczy says:

          Russia might use Cuba as an armed surrogate and supply it with supplies to launch an armed support of a fellow Socialist nation but I still can’t see Russia launching a sole support of VEN. China is just not a player here, I’m seeing them cut their losses and wait to see how this shakes out before they move.

          Thing is we have other South American nations siding with the US and this would be a perfect opportunity for the South American Defense Council and/or the Union of South American Nations to step in and restore democracy in the and between members. Some of the nations already have experience with Leftist insurgencies and undoubtedly don’t want to see a potential national launching pad for more of them formed on the continent. The UIS with their help, as Russia has with Cuba, can support their regime change and pretty well keep its hands clean. About time to have the South Americans clean their own house.

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      • andyocoregon says:

        What we don’t need is the installation of Russian or Chinese military bases in Venezuela. If that happens, we can kiss our national security goodbye.

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        • Publius2016 says:

          exactly…in 60s we went to Vietnam but not Cuba?

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          • thegoosefish says:

            Never did make sense, did it. Lost my cousin over there. For nothing. I guess I shouldn’t say nothing, out of respect. But Cuba certainly would have been a better deal.

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            • ari Berkowitz says:

              i don’t know….
              maybe i’m the geezer around here..
              68 years old…
              i was in the army from 1968-1970
              it wasn’t a distinguished 3 years, by any means..nonetheless
              i did tours in viet nam and korea…in US Army signal Corps
              all these years i’ve been, “uncomfortable”, with the (almost exclusively progressive liberal) prattle such as:

              “it was a mistake, a tragic mistake”
              “money grubbing greedy war merchants got us into it”
              “corrupt politicians took blood money from weapons manufacturers”
              “etc. etc. ad infinitum”.

              Over the years, being observant, and perceptive, I acquired bits and pieces of information, and one day, a light went on.

              Let me start with mention of the Mona Passage, an international shipping lane that passes between the eastern tip of the dominican republic, and puerto rico.

              through the mona passage, go all mercantile and military ocean going vessels transiting in both directions between europe and the panama canal.

              Next, between the western tip of Haiti, and Guantanamo, Cuba (a long time enemy nation of the USA) is the windward passage, through which all mercantile and military ocean going vessels transiting in both directions between the east coast of north america and the panama canal sail.

              Cuba, even though an enemy of the USA will NEVER even THINK about messing with Guantanamo! It is understood, that maintaining American military control of the entrances to the Caribbean is a TRUE, “red Line”, that if crossed will bring a crushing US military response.

              Grenada? Cuban Russian militarization of that Island

              Panama…Manuel Noriega creating uncertainty about access to the canal?

              NOW…think about the Straits of Melaka….an international waterway that passes between peninsular Malaysia, and the Indonesian Island of Sumatra.

              Every day, FOREVER, 900 oil tankers and cargo container ships passage this waterway. It is a vital conduit for all western economies.

              I have to shake my head at the comments from all the liberal college kids, and ignorant media analysts, telling us that viet nam was fought for THIS, or THAT unworthy cause.

              If you REALLY want to know what we fought for, look at what was negotiated to end it all.

              HERE IS WHAT WE AGREED TO:

              A. we took all our troops out of southeast asia, thereby removing them from proximity to China’s borders.
              (China loved THAT)

              B. We granted diplomatic Recognition to People’s Republic of China. (China loved THAT)

              C. We entered into economic, social cultural relationship with People’s Republic of China. ditto and ditto

              HERE IS WHAT CHINA AGREED TO:

              A. No more REGIONALLY DESTABILIZING Communist insurgencies in Southeast Asia
              (this ensured that American and other Western international shipping from the far east passing through the Indian Ocean and South China Sea would continue unmolested).

              (when Communist Viet Nam invaded Cambodia in 1978, a destabilizing act in Southeast Asia if EVER there was one, China told them to STOP. They didn’t stop….

              ….and the Chinese response was hundreds of thousands of Peoples Liberation Army Troops and many hundreds of tanks poured into North Vietnam, along the border. The PLA crushed the Vietnamese border protection regiments, and the point was made. China was and still remains the 800 pound gorilla, and calls the shots in that part of the world.

              Viet Nam withdrew its’ troops from Cambodia, and never went on to menace Malaysia to the west.

              China valued it’s relationship with the USA, and would do what they had to do to keep things stable, and ensure that American and Western commercial shipping would not be remotely threatened by the possibility of hostile take over of Malaysian or Indonesian regions along that waterway.

              I believe that, “The Domino Theory”, was something that American strategists took very seriously, and for good reason.

              B. China based manufacturers would produce stuff cheaply, sell it in America, and China would become wealthy, VERY wealthy! (China loved THAT)

              C. China, now wealthy, would loan some of that wealth back to the USA, by purchasing our 10-year Treasury notes, at market rate.

              THAT’S ABOUT IT, I believe.

              elitist college sophomoric theories emphasizing supposed evil greedy businessmen was and is wrong. Decent men trying their best to manage a difficult situation in which the existential economic interests of our nation were threatened was the order of that era, I believe!

              If our economy collapsed, because we lost freedom of navigation on the open sea, and could no longer trade internationally, we TOO, COULD WIND UP LIVING IN GRASS HUTS, WITHOUT ACCESS TO CLEAN WATER, MEDICAL CARE, MODERN COMMUNICATIONS, DECENT EDUCATION, AND A THOUSAND OTHER THINGS THAT is so blithely taken FOR GRANTED, especially by elitist leftists.

              One more thing!!! WE who showed up for duty, in Viet Nam, or Korea, Or Iraq, or Afghanistan, or any other place….we’re BETTER than those who hid behind ginned up moral superiority, and who shirked service. They should just fess up and say that they were not willing to give up their unearned comfort and unearned safety and security.

              Yeah…it’s a dirty nasty business, filled with risk and uncertainty….but some went, “all gave some, and some gave all”.

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              • Kenji says:

                Although I am young 63yo whippersnapper … I enjoyed reading your detailed geopolitical analysis of a very complex world. Thank you for your service. As for myself … I consider Richard Nixon to be my war hero … because he ended the Vietnam war JUST before I was to be called (low lottery number in 1974).

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              • thegoosefish says:

                Thanks for the lesson. There are so many perspectives on so many things, and we the sheeple only get what is given to us.

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              • David R. Graham says:

                Eloquent and accurate, and I am more geezer than you are.

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          • ari Berkowitz says:

            kennedy administration, or possibly….rogue elements within the CIA, TRIED to overthrow Cstro, and failed….Bay of Pigs invasion. In the meantime, our military base at Guantanamo remained intact and untouched. There’s more to it than meets the eye. Our CIA organizes an invasion/insurrection of significant scale, and the Castro military (wisely), didn’t lift a finger against our large military installation which remains in Cuba, til this very day.

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            • thedoc00 says:

              There was nothing rogue about the invasion of Cuba, as Kennedy was up to his eye balls in the operation. Promised air support did not materialize and Cubans did not greet the invaders as saviors as was supposed to occur. When things went bad, Kennedy pulled the plug, as you imply, to preserve Guantanamo.

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              • GREENMIRROR says:

                Thanks for your insight to world shipping lanes.

                So what was Obama really doing when he tried to end Guantanamo?

                I think looking all the way back to the East India Company and all shipping lanes period reveals nearly all motives.

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            • sysconfig says:

              its odd you mention that
              Elliott Abrams (born January 24, 1948) is an American diplomat, lawyer, and political scientist who served in foreign policy positions for Presidents Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush.[2] Abrams was convicted of withholding information from Congress about the Iran–Contra affair while serving under Reagan, but was pardoned by President George H. W. Bush.[3] He is currently a senior fellow for Middle Eastern studies at the Council on Foreign Relations.[4] On January 25, 2019, he was appointed as Special Envoy on Venezuela.[5]

              During the Reagan administration, Abrams gained notoriety for his involvement in controversial foreign policy decisions regarding Nicaragua and El Salvador. During George W. Bush’s first term, he served as Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director on the National Security Council for Near East and North African Affairs. At the start of Bush’s second term, Abrams was promoted to be his Deputy National Security Advisor for Global Democracy Strategy, in charge of promoting Bush’s strategy of advancing democracy abroad. His appointment by Bush was controversial due to his conviction in 1991 on two misdemeanor counts of unlawfully withholding information from Congress during the Iran–Contra affair investigation.

              one might start to think this is the cias pointman rather than the wh

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              • Bull Durham says:

                Totally CIA. And linked to Mossad and IDF with whom he worked to assassinate Central American revolutionaries in the 80’s who transited to the ME for training.

                Abrams will formulate the false flags bloodshed in the streets of Venezuela if the short period for diplomacy does not change the regime.

                Elliot has always been one of the useful sociopaths of the Deep State.

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          • Avi says:

            part of the Cuban Missile Crisis Deal was that we wouldn’t go after Cuba again.
            who won?

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          • BigMamaTEA says:

            Well, I was too young at the time, ( he-he!!0 but in studying history…..there was this little skirmish called the Cuban Missile Crisis with JFK…….

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        • James says:

          No Andy, what we don’t need is to be engaged in regime change again.

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        • mopar2016 says:

          Definitely don’t want Russia or China in our back yard.

          I don’t mind the US giving food, medical, and other aid, but I really don’t want to hear about ANY refugees coming to our country. We already spend too much money on other people.
          Venezuela is a poor country that’s rich in natural resources.
          Gold, Nickel, Iron Ore, Diamonds, Bauxite, Natural Gas, Oil, Coal, and more.
          Russia and China can go pound sand.

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        • Zaza says:

          andy have you ever heard of a place called Cuba?

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        • Mark says:

          I believe Russia or China could just as easily launch a nuclear icbm at the us via the ocean off our coasts, as they could from their countries. I doubt they need to put nuclear silos in Venezuela to scare us. Those days are over.

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      • gildie says:

        Does anyone think you can move hundreds of billions of dollars of narco money around the world yearly without the full cooperation & participation of every major world financial institution?

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        • LafnH20 says:

          I certainly don’t.

          Too big to fail. 🤔

          More like “Moving too much of our Blood Money around to be given any reason to start talking…Or be Talked About.”

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        • czarowniczy says:

          And that’s just Mexican cartel operations in Chicago.

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        • sysconfig says:

          This is very true..what makes Abrams such a surprising choice. The Iran Contra resulted not only in Iran Getting arms but the enormous amount of drugs that came into the US to raise money for regime change. The impact of that was enormous on our society.
          https://theintercept.com/2018/05/12/oliver-north-nra-iran-contra/
          Bush pardoned him for lying..and what is Ironic is the up and coming AG was helpful in sweeping that under the rug. Let that part sink in.

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          • smurfette says:

            YUP

            There was a huge arms build up in Pearl Harbor too which was instigated by Roosevelt to infuriate the Japanese. High level admiral objected to the move and was relieved of duty. Troops were purposely not warned in advance before the attack.

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          • BigMamaTEA says:

            AND Cocaine in the 80’s…….and that’s how we ended up with Slick Willy….straight outta Arkansas……

            I LOL’d the other day when one of the younger Senators on senate tee-vee was talking about something he thought was new…..an influx of Cocaine into the US!!!

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      • Zaza says:

        Doctrines need to change with the times. We treat China like they are a best ally, handing them our national wealth in trade, when they really are one of the worst nations that should be shunned.

        We treat Russia like they are the USSR when they are not at all the same, they could be one of our best ally’s vs the war on radical islamic terror but we allow false narratives and propaganda from our own pentagon to keep them at distance.

        Meanwhile NATO is a crippled dinosaur that should be put out of it’s misery one and for all, it still centers on the EU globalist regimes and supports them at our vast expense. You may not remember but when the Shah was in power we considered Iran one of our best allies, now we treat an Iranian like they are a leper.

        The globalist mentality of the past half century+ has created many of these backward relationships, which is what led many of you to support Trump without even understanding exactly why.

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        • BigMamaTEA says:

          Thank you Zaza. You are correct…..the other day I read that one of Germany’s glo-bullists had publicly stated that “they (EU) should consider sending NATO troops” against the French yellow vests, and dissenters in Germany…..That is so ludicrous…boy he sure showed his globullist azz.

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        • David R. Graham says:

          Correct.

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    • sDee says:

      “I don’t give a damn about Venezuela.”

      It is not about Venezuela, it is about China and the Globalists multi-front war on America.

      Trump’s priorities are on breaking the Globalists death grip on the United States. China being at the top of that list

      South and Central America are strategic elements of China’s BRI (Belt and Road Initiative) BRI is something Sundance continually brings our attention to as part of Trump’s war against the Globalists.

      “”While overtly intended to develop infrastructure as a means of reducing physical and regulatory barriers to trade and subsidizing China’s state-controlled firms at home and abroad, the BRI raises serious enquiries about the PRC’s long-term interests and objectives abroad.

      Legal and territorial concessions by partner countries such as Nicaragua, Bolivia, Venezuela, Ecuador, and others in the Americas, as well as disregard for environmental and labor conditions, highlight the magnitude of Chinese penetration in these countries.””

      The Dragon and the Condor: Beyond China’s Economic Influence in the Americas
      http://www.securefreesociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/SFS-Global-Dispatch-Issue-6.pdf

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      • Kenji says:

        Venezuela is also a massive Humanitarian Crisis. Like it or not the USA is both a military and economic superpower … up until Obama (and HER) we used our power for GOOD in the world … not supporting murderous Theocracies in Iran, and exporting our middle class to China. Personally, I believe it is IMMORAL to stand-by and watch the Venezuelan people murdered and die of disease and starvation. As far as “voting” for their Socialist enslavement … I doubt there’s been a FAIR election in Venezuela in years. At worst, I expect their electorate is just as divided as America’s. And with the rampant election FRAUD in America … we may need a Democratic Venezuela to rescue US someday.

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    • Ldave says:

      What if 52% vote for idiocy, the other 48% be damned? When the people could have later voted differently the election wasn’t fair.

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      • Mac says:

        Then it is THEIR problem to deal with, not ours. The U.S. needs to lose the idea that we should go and solve other people’s problems. Actually, I hope they continue into utter collapse and complete destitution. The rest of the world needs a good object lesson demonstrating the results of going full-bore socialist.

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        • Ray Runge says:

          You are confusing two issues. First, “full bore socialism” is apparent and the opportune lesson for all to see the destruction and corruption is invaluable.

          Second, Venezuela is a breeding ground for international gangsters that would just as soon subvert the interests of the USA, thus our problem. This breeding ground must not be permitted to flower. By my observation, Venezuela presents with ample native citizen desire to break away from the Maduro regime. Some memory of a culture that worked for a broad cross section is available.

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          • mac says:

            You know, Ray, that if we were looking to sort out a country that has been subverting the interests of the U.S. for the last 60+ years, we could do it with one a lot closer: Mexico. Venezuela is actually much less of a problem than the undeclared-but-actual enemy state right on our border. Plus, if you’re worried about “international gangsters” causing problems, I’d argue that the Mexican cartel bosses put anything Venezuela has produced to shame.

            I see all these people here arguing for taking some kind of military action with regard to Venezuela, because that is what they’re actually proposing when they argue “we can’t accept…”, and I wonder if they’ve taken leave of their senses or are trolls. This is the CONSERVATIVE TREE HOUSE, and true conservatives don’t go looking to start wars. They fight like Hell when they’re attacked, and they seriously prepare to defend themselves, but they don’t go looking for trouble. A lot of the commenters here seem to be aching for a fight with Venezuela. If so, they can’t be a) thinking about what it would look like internationally (it would be roundly condemned), and b) thinking about the very seriously deleterious effects it would have on the Trump Administration. Do they really not understand just how incredibly gleeful the leftist scum would be to justifiably slap the epithet “warmonger” on Trump just before the 2020 elections?

            Trump is handling this perfectly. Castigate the Venezuelan Government, apply sanctions, and recognize the opposition’s legitimacy–these are all excellent, effective moves and have been very well played to date. That said, the FIRST American soldier that gets involved in this will negate every bit of that progress and rally all of Central and South America to rage against “the gringo bullies.” Anyone that has ever spent much time in countries south of Brownsville knows this.

            Long story short, anyone advocating the use of military force to effect regime change in Venezuela is promoting what would be a disastrous policy for the U.S. in general and the Trump Administration in particular.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      Their problems adversely affect us. You should give a damn.

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      • Mac says:

        Nope. I don’t give a damn about Venezuela and they aren’t worth one drop of blood from an American serviceman. The days of nation-building and getting involved with other countries’ problems in South and Central America should be long over. It doesn’t help the U.S. and it isn’t appreciated by the locals anywhere.

        The U.S. is going to be criticized no matter what we do or don’t do, so we might as well just save ourselves the blood and treasure and stay far away from tar babies like Venezuela. If they choose to go to Hell in a handbasket, that is their choice and not our problem, no matter how much people want to make it so. If they don’t like eating rats and having million-percent inflation, it is on THEM to change the way they do things, not us. Our best bet is to leave them alone and refuse to accept any refugees from there–or anywhere else, for that matter. We have more than enough problems of our own to deal with without going abroad to look for more.

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        • andyocoregon says:

          So the thought of having Russian missiles and bombers in Venezuela doesn’t concern you? It does me.

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          • Mac says:

            Russia is in demographic and economic decline headed swiftly toward collapse. They have a lot more to worry about at home than most Americans understand, particularly a very hungry dragon looking to swallow every bit of Russia east of Lake Baikal. They are NOT going to take the U.S. on in a fight as they know becoming deeply engaged in the West would be seen as an open invitation to invasion by the Chinese.

            You want to worry about something? Worry about the fact that the opposition party is led by traitors to the country, traitors who could be in complete power after 2020. Trump getting involved in an overseas war would increase that chance exponentially. Let Venezuela stand on its own as an object lesson to the next bunch of idiot socialists who come along.

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            • Carrie2 says:

              Mac, and the traitors here playing what they think is a winning game will be causing the same problems as they have in Venezuela because so many democrat followers are too blind to see/understand what the DNC communist party is pushing and now with P & S it is becoming more obvious. I find it odd that Mexico would lean to Maduro and that is not a good thing for Mexico nor for us. China is always touting but to date it is more talk than action because altho they have a large army and equipment, they also would have problems with the “peasants” in rebellion as they have caused rebellions in the past and won. Unfortunately, I do not think the UN would do a darn thing against Maduro as they are stubborn- we- hate the people in most of their member countries. Colombia wants the Venezuelans gone because there has never been happiness between the two countries, but a lot of dislike of Venezuela. Yes, the people were stupid and/or ignorant and brought the problem to themselves, but we must be extra careful here now. I thank God every day for Trump and what he has in mind with each and every country and their continuing attempts to own not only a country but the whole planet. Now, after this hard life will the Venezuelans have learned a harsh lesson. One can only hope and pray.

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            • LafnH20 says:

              Myopic and insular.
              Against everything being done…
              In favor of everything that is not.

              Must be the Word Salad “Du Jour”.
              They can’t argue successfully on any one topic…
              So just argue about everything.
              They have ZERO facts but they are LOOONG on BS.

              Mac seems to have drawn the Short straw today.

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              • Mac says:

                Wars are easy to start but hard to stop. You haven’t learned anything from the last sixty years of failed American interventions, have you? What did America “win” in Vietnam? What did we “win” in Iraq? Do you really think we don’t have so enough problems on our plate domestically that we can and should go abroad looking for them? I guess our $21 trillion in debt and the slow-motion invasion coming across our southern border aren’t enough problems to keep us busy, eh?

                I read people’s opinions here and some of them, like yours, make me understand how it came about that this country could have been so damned foolish to have elected ol’ BJ and Obastard twice each.

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              • David R. Graham says:

                No, Mac is writing sane strategic statecraft. Keep up.

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            • Zaza says:

              “Russia is in demographic and economic decline headed swiftly toward collapse. ”

              lol, what fake news source did you get that nonsense from?

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              • Mac says:

                Try looking at the CIA fact book before you start throwing insults. Ask yourself exactly what you would want to buy that Russia manufactures, other than possibly vodka. Life expectancy is down, births are down, GDP is down, they have an economy that is only slightly less dependent on oil revenue than the Gulf states, and they have a military still mostly outfitted with Cold War gear that is 30+ years old because they cannot afford to modernize it. Russia in 2019 is not the Soviet Union of 1979, and even they were a lot weaker than we thought at the time. At their strongest they were never more than a Third World country with nuclear missiles.

                Face it, Zaza, the BIG HUNGRY BEAR is not really coming for you.

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          • JohninMK says:

            It shouldn’t. You can’t see the Russian military assets that should concern you, they are under the sea, off your coasts. They don’t need bases there and they definitely can’t afford to put one there either. The only way I can see of them doing it they feel forced to to protect their assets. So, no risk to assets, no base. Its in the hands of the US.

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        • mossback says:

          Venezuelans will take care of their own country, given the encouragement and support of the USA and all other South American countries. US Blood does not have to be shed or even risked………just give them the means to resist and Boom!……..Maduro and his horde are done!

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    • franuche says:

      Yeah, eff ‘em. – Jesus

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    • Petrel says:

      I care for the people of Venezuela, but don’t believe the current uprising is anything other than a year-long planned operation by the 1% to grab Venezuela oil from this nation.

      As for President Trump, I have supported him from the escalator announcement, but recognize he does not enjoy the backing of Uni-Party on Capital Hill, or controls the Departments of Justice, State, CIA, Pentagon and a host of shadowy agencies who pursue other agendas.

      Dallasdan spoke for me the day before last:

      January 24, 2019 at 7:57 pm [ President Trump] is an honorable gentleman with a strong faith in God, in good times and bad.

      He is fully aware that he is on an island, has no powerful friends in the Legislative and Judicial branches of government, knows his legislative agenda is dead, understands that he will get only the funds the Dems give him with specific strings attached, suffers the Senate dictating to him who can be confirmed on his A-Team, realizes House committees will do their utmost to destroy him and his family/associates, accepts the ignominy of Pelosi’s insults, lives with the threat of Mueller authoring a Trumpian tragedy, and prepares for his likely impeachment.

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      • Louisiana Tea Rose says:

        And look what he has done in spite of all that. It is remarkable what a can-do guy with ZERO “political experience” and an almost unprecedented amount of resistance has accomplished during his short tenure.

        It pains me to read some of the comments here disparaging the President when a setback occurs or the political drift disfavors his cause, and I am amazed at those who think he has absolute control over each and every lever of the Beauracratic Machine that is the US Government. The beauty of our Constutional Power Structure is the distribution of that power, which protects us from overreach from, say an Obama or a Clinton, for example…this distribution pretty much prevents us from ending up looking like the Monster we see now in Venezuela.

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    • Mercenary says:

      This is honestly one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard and I hear it CONSTANTLY in regards to tons of countries. Germany experiencing a rape epidemic? Well they voted for it. Same for Sweden. Same for all of the socialist countries.

      Socialists are a tiny gang that SEIZES control of the country. Protest in Venezuela and you get shot. Shot to death. I’m sick of the lack of sympathy and empathy from people comfortable in America. If Hillary won and America was being flooded with foreign nationals while the new Hillary Supreme Court had just declared guns unconstitutional, I’m sure you’d love to hear others say how you “just deserved it”.

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      • Mac says:

        “I’m sick of the lack of sympathy and empathy from people comfortable in America.”

        No problem, Mercenary. YOU go down to Venezuela and get things changed. If you can bring some friends, wonderful. Just don’t think the U.S. Government or its armed forces should either a) help you effect regime change, or b) bail you out when you get in trouble there.

        THEY CHOSE THIS STATE OF AFFAIRS. We may not think much of it, but it is NOT our call to change the way they run their business. As for your example about Hillary, if she had won and done all the things you mention, America WOULD deserve it because they voted for that outcome. People, and nations, have free agency to do as they wish, and Venezuela chose what they now have and voted for it repeatedly. Actions have consequences, and the Venezuelans are now finding that out. If they don’t like the way things are in their country, it is up to THEM to change it, not us. It is not worth any of our national blood and treasure to pull them out of the hole which they freely dug for themselves.

        Look at Vietnam. We lost 50,000 lives and had many more wounded in a war we lost, only to have them 40 years later turn of their own accord into a nation that desperately wants to be our ally. Did the fine young U.S. military personnel who died there really die for anything useful, or were their lives just wasted?

        Again, YOU want to go down there and sort the socialists out, good luck. Let the rest of us know how you get on.

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    • Athena the Warrior says:

      I hate it too but we can’t have Russia, China or another enemy in our hemisphere. Same reason why we are stuck with pathetic Puerto Rico as a territory. Too close for comfort.

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    • Mark says:

      Agreed,
      But muh water and muh toilet paper!
      I don’t give a whit about what a Venezuela person wipes their bum with, nor who their leader is, nor if they are thirsty. Iran, China, Russia, Saudi, Israel are already there on the ground fomenting hatred of America. Not one dollar, no one drop of blood. Also…Elliot Abrams,and Bolton? Enough of the bush neocons, Trump is losing his way. America first?

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      • David R. Graham says:

        “Also…Elliot Abrams,and Bolton? Enough of the bush neocons, Trump is losing his way. America first?”

        Regrettably, some truth to that, but whether *determining* truth . . . jury still out, I think.

        Men grow with events, opportunities. Ponder what should be, could be, over the horizon, such as in strategic statecraft, rather than current negativities. Reality is always present and a friend. At the worst of times, existentially, the truth is present. Seek and speak that. No more can be asked of one. One who protects the truth is protected by the truth.

        When good times emerge, be ready with fresh conceptual insights which cultivate opportunities given to build strength — which is allegiance to truth — among our fellow citizens.

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  2. Interesting choice. Abrams was Tillerson’s pick for his deputy but because Abrams was opposed to President Trump during the Trump campaign, that choice was overruled. However, his history of rejecting Democrat policies (he worked on a campaign for Scoop Jackson, according to Wikipedia) and becoming a Republican under Reagan argues well for him. Plus he has been the victim of special counsel poor treatment (Iran Contra, ultimately the original felony counts were knocked down to misdemeanors and then Bush pardoned him.
    Presumably Abrams’ long foreign service experience and work in Central America give him a huge advantage in understanding the landscape in Venezuela.

    Pompeo’s answers, as usual, are well crafted and sound.

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    • elizabethraynorshort says:

      Elliott is a dual citizen of USA and Israel, as are many in USG. It should be illegal and enforced that no one with allegiances to other countries may work for USG. He’s also a Bush Iran Contra criminal and probably participant in other nefarious activities unknown to me He is the definition of a swamp creature. Why can’t they look beyond the swamp to fill positions with patriots?.

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      • JohninMK says:

        Primarily because they can’t take the risk.

        They do not want anyone to lift the curtain as to what has gone on and what they are planning to do to anyone who is not already initiated into the swamp. As you and others correctly point out, Abrams is up to his neck in this and everything else that happened in this part of the World, so is fully compromised hence, perfect for the job.

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      • Avi says:

        Abrams is not a dual citizen, stop peddling nonsense from Stormfront type websites , although Im sure Müller could use someone like you.

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      • Linda K. says:

        Is Israel a problem for you Elizabeth? Are you one of those liberals who hate Israel? There is no one in Washington these days who is not part of the last 30 years, Bush, Carter, Bush. Clinton, Obama. No Reagan people left really, so what is our choice? Trump is an outsider and has few political friends. We the people support him, but the press is so left wing they would rather see our country tip over than cover the corruption in Justice here and the failure of communism in Venezuela. Why destroy the United States in a socialst power grab? You and other useful idiots will end up regretting it if you succeed.

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      • yucki says:

        Duel Citizen

        Antisemitic conspiracy theory.
        Next you’ll tag Jared.

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      • Thanks for the link to this even handed article.
        We are playing 3D chess in this region and no one is all white or all black hat. It’s about America’s priorities in the end. Rather than Nation building some support in a volatile situation to help a locally generated Democratic government establish itself, is the order of the day. China & Russia are well ahead of us in building blocks of Nations inimitable to our saftey & security. Abrams appears to have the expertise as long as he channels it in the directions directed by Pompeo & POTUS. His ties to Rubio are also fascinating because Rubio has been very supportive of POTUS re Venezuela. Perhaps he can become a more dependable ally (more dependable ≠ dependable).

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      • Maquis says:

        I like it! He’s a bastard. OUR bastard!

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    • Robert Smith says:

      And, tentative olive branch offering to Bush faction to unite (!) the party. As long as we keep in mind the pieces are working the directed Trump plan then, things should be ok..

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  3. Fake Ruby says:

    No Trump supporter I know is in favor of the Venezuela coup.

    For the simple reason that it is being carried out by the exact same Deep State that is conducting the anti-Trump coup.

    Our slogan isn’t Make Venezuela Great Again. As Mac says above – this is their business, not the job of Americans.

    Staying out of stuff like this is simply smart. And Bolton and Pompeo – the Neocons – are setting a trap for our President.

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    • Risa says:

      The problem is the flood of Venezuelan refugees pouring into the neighboring countries.

      I agree that the Venezuelan people voted Chavez in……at first.
      Highly doubt subsequent elections were honest. Why would we assume they are? And why would we assume our own elections are honest, now? We just witnessed the Dems just keep counting ballots until they got the result they needed, in several midterm races.

      We probably don’t have much enthusiasm for any more nation-building, though. Hope we don’t get bogged down there.

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      • cowpokesblog says:

        Your correct, the refugee crisis alone forces our hand. Not to mention Russia & China influence gains in the region. We could take Maduro out like we did the Panamanian strong man Manuel Noriega.

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        • JohninMK says:

          Murdering elected foreign leaders is seldom a good plan for the US with history showing that it has an even worse effect on the population with 10.000s dying.

          Russia and China are only stepping in as the US gave them the opportunity. If the US had not sanctioned and done all it could to disrupt Venezuela then there would have been little need for other countries to step in and try to rescue the.

          Even though Venezuela has lots of excellent potential crop growing areas one of the deals that the previous, friendly to the US, regime before Chavez, set up was to use part of the oil revenue, processed through US companies, to by most of the food the country needed from other US companies. This win-win profit extraction situation is undoubtedly one of the reasons the US now wants to put in place a leader who will do the same.

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          • jeans2nd says:

            Are you high? Venezuela kicked the oil companies out and took over the oil production as well as farming a very long time ago. This is 2019, not 1819.
            China and Russia – and Cuba and Iran and Turkey – were in Venezuela a very long time ago. Where have you been?

            My goodness, you sound exactly like one of Obama’s truth tellers. How much are you being paid? Do you enjoy your work?

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            • JohninMK says:

              Stone cold sober. Indeed Chavez did do as you say but my comment was regarding what went on before then. They are still very reliant on imports of food which, due to sanctions of various types, have been throttled leading to food shortages and mass emigration.

              Of course those countries have been there, as well as many others, but it is only in the past 5 or so years that China and Russia have pumped in large amounts of capital, in the case of China up to $50B forward purchasing oil.

              I like to think I am a truth teller but as I am in the middle of England I don’t have much to do with Obama. As to getting paid, fat chance of that, and enjoy my work, I don’t work, I am retired and a free agent.

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              • railer says:

                You make a very good point. Multinational Big Ag in the US has helped destroy small farms in Mexico as well as in the US, and no doubt in Venezuela too. Wall Street lent cash, and they want their pound of flesh. It’s a damaging path. Like the German banks with Greece, Wall Street will have to make a new debt arrangement with Venezuela, not including a bailout by US taxpayers.

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                • JohninMK says:

                  Thank you. Only this time, for the first time in this kind of situation, China is in it for $50B and Russia $10B (both estimates). The closest we get to that is Libya where China was forced to walk away nursing big but unknown losses. So now we have the World’s three largest powers with skin in the game and their bankers enjoy losing money just as much as the Wests. Huge amounts of Libyan money in Western banks was never traced, Venezuala’s money is there too, indeed the Bank of England months ago refused to return to them around $400M of their gold. This is a long running plan, not something that appeared out of the blue in the last couple of weeks. Whichever way you look at it, now the US has fired the starting gun, it is not going to end easily.

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        • Franklin says:

          The majority of the refugees have gone to Columbia which is currently accepting them.

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        • Guillermo Maguire says:

          Agreed. The overthrow was going to happen, one way or another. Better to do it on our terms if possible. None of this is going to be clean, but there is momemntum here that South America is rejecting socialism, so our assistance helps us and them. Again, though, this can beFUBARRED too.

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      • sat0422 says:

        We voted DemocRATS into the House of Representatives. How can we throw stones at who the VZ people first elected. They have an excuse with rigged elections. We, don’t necessarily have an excuse except for being stupid. Yes, stupid for playing with fire. We have a few thousand who take to the internet to protest or take the other side. It’s the people who only watch MSM or read a daily arsewipe (newspaper) that are a huge problem in this country. I do believe that as for regular people, the conservatives are winning the internet but that doesn’t count for much in the real world, does it? Most are scared of their shadow and wouldn’t fight a rooster if they had to.

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      • gildie says:

        Thought I read somewhere that in at least 30 districts across our country where the election results were contested, they kept finding box after box of uncounted ballots
        until victory was declared.
        In every case, the uncounted votes were for Democrat candidates.

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    • You don’t know many Trump supporters; or you have too much wax in your ears. My Trump supporting friends, family, associates, aquaitances support the interim change in power in Venezuela. They certainly suupport what President Trump has said about it as well.

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      • eagle931 says:

        I and many of my Trump-supporting friends agree with you in that we also support the interim change in power in Venezuela. This was no coup d’etat, but quite the opposite: A (Venezuelan) Constitutionally legal replacement of a president (Maduro) who actually lost an election, but called himself the winner through fraudulent means.

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        • Sherri Young says:

          What the Maduro regime has been doing in Venezuela amounts to a coup against the citizens of that country. Maduro packed the supreme court and had those cronies declare the constitutional legislative branch invalid and set up an alternate legislative body. This is not all about Maduro.

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    • Mark Newell says:

      I am a Trump supporter and totally agree with our support for a genuine freedom movement in Venezuela. They took to the streets in massive numbers and risked their lives to protest the communist thug, Maduro. Now the Russians are showing their true colors; acting like the USSR….

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    • Alex says:

      How many US soldiers were deployed to Venezuela? Far as I know, our involvement includes POTUS acknowledging the interim president.

      The PEOPLE of Venezuela rose up and are fighting back. Poor past decisions or not, the people are making the difference, we are simply supporting their choice. If Obama had done the same in the middle east things would be much different over there now.

      The trolls have really flooded this place lately. Go crawl back under your bridges.

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      • Zaza says:

        Alex, one thing is true, Venezuela would be a better place to send US military than Syria.

        There are some good people in Venezuela, I have met some of them, and I don’t wish to see bad things happen to good people. Likewise the same holds true for Syria, I have met some and without a doubt they too are very good people. Sadly we see more US military coming home from place like Syria, Afgan, and Somalia in body bags, when we can’t seem to affect the “right” political climate in these places. Meanwhile we learn of more false flag propaganda “gas attacks” that turn out to have no basis in reality and are expected to continue marching our soldiers across the entire globe.

        We have a right to be highly skeptical about sending our military anywhere, and there is no reason to believe any real threat to the USA will come from such pockets, Cuba is still Cuba after all and they and Mexico are FAR closer in proximity and relevance, If we can simply muster the courage to defend our own borders the US has nothing to fear. Rather than draw false analogies from places like Iran, we should look at each country on its own case by case merit. Meanwhile we should actually be leaving places like Afgan and Syria, and Somalia where either they are well enough alone like Syria or “unfixable” as in the other two.

        We should be able to agree the USA has enough of it’s own problems with bad government and an irrational populace.

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      • James says:

        Alex, I hope we have no soldiers deployed (but I expect they are waiting off shore, but probably that makes sense). However I would bet money that we have CIA operators on the ground actively working to overthrow Maduro.

        A lot of people on this blog are talking about the threat from Russia, China, Cuba and other reasons. Focus, focus people – Venezuela is sitting on the largest oil reserves in the world. Let me say that again: Venezuela is sitting on the largest oil reserves in the world.

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    • JamesK says:

      Trump is in favor of the Venezuela coup.

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      • Zaza says:

        A coup is an illegal uprising over a legitimate government. While it’s unclear how legitimate the current VE gov. is, if the people of VE can get it done, then there is no reason to support the Maduro regime. It seems China, RU, Cuba and Google are the only ones supporting him now.

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    • Linda K. says:

      Obama decided to let the uprising in Iran go unsupported ant the Mullahs remained in power there. It is alright to offer encouragement to the people in Venezuela. It is a beautiful country, its people are suffering greatly.

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    • LafnH20 says:

      You need to get out more.

      I support supporting a People who support NOT Supporting (and are attemping to get out from under) a Tyrannous Political Rule by supporting THEIR choice of Government; whether the Globalist Bastards (Or you) support it or not.

      A Country is It’s PEOPLE. Not it’s Politicians.
      Try to remember that.

      🇺🇸🇺🇸MAGA🇺🇸🇺🇸

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      • Rodney Short says:

        Thank you.

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      • Zaza says:

        “A Country is It’s PEOPLE. Not it’s Politicians.”

        extremely well put, more need to remember this point when we hear our “leaders” calling for total war and regime change regarding places like Iran, Syria, etc..

        How many of you would want the world to believe that a Clinton, or Obama or BUSH represents who you are?

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    • MostlyRight says:

      Will new leadership in Venezuela be in the USA’s best interest in terms of economics, military positioning and humanitarian crises that lead to increased immigration north? I think it is, so it matters.

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    • Ray Runge says:

      Neocons to hades by me also. Monroe Doctrine or speak softly and carry a well guided stick are nominees for the task. To simply stay away invites a festering sore to blossom to a loss of USA freedoms. The southern border is currently under siege. Heck, Russia and China can ad a few firearms to the hordes to expand the influence and often the duralumin’s trade further.

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  4. chili palmer says:

    This is as bad as it could possibly be. Elliot Abrams is a career elitist neocon warmonger, on the board of NED, the partially taxpayer funded group that interferes and causes coups in other countries. There’s no way around it. US taxpayers are slaves of the The Endless Unwinnable US taxpayer Funded War Industry. Trump said no more foreign interventions, but he’s been planning the Venezuela attack for over a year. NATO has even expanded to Latin America with Columbia’s joining in 2018. This is Trump’s worst betrayal yet.

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    • TestName7 says:

      Truly well said. Should I start hording water and canned beans ballots?

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    • Risa says:

      His ‘worst betrayal yet”?
      Good grief.

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    • Sharpshorts says:

      Jumping to un-substantiated conclusions again. Did we not just witness 2 glaring examples of the harm this causes?

      Non-sequitur arguments being floated on this comment string and from the MSM left:

      …the failure of Venezuela was not caused by socialism…
      …the stupid people of Venezuela deserve what they got…
      …we are messing with a duly elected sovereign hell hole…
      …leave them alone -.they asked for it…

      To what end? The same old same old:
      Control the narrative and you control the world…somehow it’s ORANGEMAN’s fault.

      Sound familiar?

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      • sat0422 says:

        They live just down the road from the USA and they are dangerous. I usually keep an eye on any neighbor that I suspect is in failing health. I do believe VZ is in failing health and the people of VZ need help to fight their very on Hitler…..a Dictator that they didn’t see coming and one is not kind to his people. Read, “The Book Thief.” A Dictator is a very scary person, you know, like Nancy Pelosi is trying to be!

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      • Sherri Young says:

        Maduro is a Castro puppet. His mentor Chavez is said to have poured billions into spreading and propping up communism in different parts of the globe. Think of PDVSA as Castro’s piggybank.

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      • LafnH20 says:

        It’s all they got…

        Word Salad with with a side of “Orange Man Bad”.

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    • wj2016 says:

      I dont think Trump will attack Venezuela. He knows it would probably give him zero chance of picking up the same deplorable vote. It would be an incredibly stupid thing. The guy is too savvy. Elliot Abrams is an unrepentant neocon and I’m sure he would love to invade the place. He is also a classic chickenhawk since he turned 18 in 66 and was fully eligible for military service and Vietnam but just like Dick Cheney,he had other priorities during that time. It is disappointing that he is in the administration.

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      • JohninMK says:

        I hope he won’t attack. It does seem that the DoD/Pentagon were not included in the group discussing this decision. Presumably as military action was not expected to be needed, certainly at this stage. I would think that perhaps they expected the Venezuelan military to support the interim President. But that was never going to happen as said military is very well liked after by the current Government.

        The risk now is mission creep. Was Trump sold a pup? Did he agree to the plan because it was presented as a virtual done deal? With the military backing Maduro and with millions, mainly the poor, on his side, the only way forward could be a US attack. But the military is well equipped with modern Russian fighters and air defence so it would have to be big. Would you folks support that? High risk of many US body bags? High cost?

        Russian military contractors are now in there protecting the leadership. Maybe the CIA has dropped the ball as they did in Syria.

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      • Linda K. says:

        This is a great site, why don’t you read it and learn something ?

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    • “…venezuelan attack”………….lol…………

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    • KittyKat says:

      I’m getting the vibe that you’ve never supported President Trump, seeing as you are so conversant with a lot of anti Trump propaganda.

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    • Linda K. says:

      Chili Palmer you are pathetic. Is your Che shirt washed and ready? The only betrayal has been by the Uni party and globaI elites who inhabit the Washington government. Trump has been true to his word on every promise he made. If he hasn’t succeeded in everything, look to the Rino’s, like Paul Ryan, not Trump. His intent is not political power and money, but to make America great again.

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  5. Appalled says:

    We’ve seen the disruption associated with Syrian refugees, primarily in neighboring countries, but also in Europe. The potential number of Venezuelan refugees is greater.

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  6. Abrams is just another neocon swamp critter. He was heavily involved in the Iran-Contra thing under Reagan (actually under Bush but that’s another story) Or just the type of person that I would expect Pompeo to pick.
    Venezuela has voted for socialism in 6 consecutive elections. They want socialism but not the consequences of socialism. Just like all the other dimwits who vote for it.
    How about we fix our own corrupt political system and leave others to do the same.

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    • sat0422 says:

      Did you send in your resume?

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    • LafnH20 says:

      We have the Largest Economy in the world. Extraordinary wealth and resources at our disposal. And it is a slog to try and reform our govrrnment.

      They are eating Zoo animals. How do THEY fix this problem?

      Respectfully….

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      • lawrencepaul1 says:

        We borrow money from china to pay for welfare. We are broke. We have been spending more money than we earn for 40 years and can’t afford anywhere near normal interest rates. People are deluded if they think that doubling the national debt every decade will not have serious consequences. As for “fixing” stupid. Can’t be done. And it is not for us to borrow money from china to bail out socialists.

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        • LafnH20 says:

          Aren’t we talking about a change of leadership?

          I don’t disagree with what you say, IMHO, they are trying to fix tgeir own problem.
          I’m not familiar with any suggestions that we borrow money from China to support their efforts.

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          • lawrencepaul1 says:

            “I’m not familiar with any suggestions that we borrow money from China to support their efforts.”
            Seriously?

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            • LafnH20 says:

              Yes.

              Please, enlighten me.

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              • lawrencepaul1 says:

                We run $Trillion deficits. Where do you think the money comes from?
                Countries like China buy our treasuries. Which means we borrow money from them, pay them interest on that money and have to either pay back the principle when the note expires or roll over the debt.
                We are in a very dangerous situation. If interest on $22Tillion dept goes to even near to historically normal rates of 5/6% our interest on the debt would be over one $Trillion per year.
                We borrow money and give it to foreign countries and your children and grandchildren will be paying the interest on debt.
                I can’t believe that everyone doesn’t know this.

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                • LafnH20 says:

                  The Leadership of this Country has done all these things. The People have been deceived over and over.
                  We are attempting to Right those things.

                  Do we leave the world to fend for themselves and expect a pocket full of money to protect us when Hell comes knocking?
                  Turning our backs on people attempting to do much the same as we…
                  Imho, is not the answer.

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                • lawrencepaul1 says:

                  Alrighty then

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                • LafnH20 says:

                  I do know this, LP1. And I appreciate your passion… I share it.

                  Planned Parenthood’s latest annual report just came out, and it’s shocking. Here are some fast facts:

                  332,757 abortions performed – up 11,000 from last year and the most abortions since 2012.
                  $563.8 million received in taxpayer dollars – up $20 million from last year.
                  $244.8 million in profits – up nearly 150% since last year.
                  2,831 adoption referrals – down 27% since last year.
                  Cancer screenings, preventative care, and contraception services are all down.

                  If this were simple, We The PEOPLE would take this $ we GIVE AWAY and give it instead give it to People in say… Venezuela.

                  Perhaps, our ROI would be better.

                  Priorities… I guess… Is our problem…
                  Not Giving..

                  I’ll give you the last word… 😉

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                • lawrencepaul1 says:

                  The people of Venezuela voted in six consecutive elections for socialism. They have it. Changing a government is not changing the people. If we bail them out they will vote in another socialist once things improve. Same as PR. We bail them out and they vote socialist. You can’t cure stupid or save people from themselves.

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            • LafnH20 says:

              The Venezuelan People…

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  7. railer says:

    Abrams is part of the Swamp and Deep State, and a sworn enemy of MAGA and all that it stands for. Sorry, but anything this man touches is suspect.

    Iran-Contra was a Deep State operation run out of the National Security Administration, directly out of the White House. Reagan permitted these operations to take place, and takes much of the blame. Abrams was a key player in this. He has no respect for the law… none. Pompeo might as well have put Madeliene Albright into that job, or Douglas Feith, or Samantha Powers. Abrams is a dedicated tool of the globalists, born and bred and paid for.

    Trump knows how to run with the sharks. It’s one of his strengths. He uses them for his ends. You can work with enemies, if you keep them under your thumb. He did fine with that empty vessel Nikki Haley, once he cut her off at the knees and made her toe the line, and she’s pure Swamp and Deep State.

    Abrams will bear careful watching. I’m all in favor of a peaceful transition in Venezuela, above board and peaceful, but the Abrams of this world want war first, last and always, and will use all means to get to it, legal or illegal, moral or immoral.

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    • GB Bari says:

      I’m old enough to remember Abrams’ work, and I have mostly very negative memories of him and the political messes of which he was always in the middle. I was quite surprised at this announcement.

      Having said that, there are two very solid reasons to be cautiously optimistic about his appointment. They are: Mike Pompeo and Donald Trump.

      Both PDJT and SOSMP have more than proven together a working synergy that has achieved very positive gains in US international relationships – both diplomatic and economic- thus far. I have no doubt that the President approved Abrams’ addition to State, and is fully aware of Abrams’ background.

      While I respect others’ concerns about Abrams’ resume, I will withhold criticism and let the Trump-led Administration execute their Plan to deal with a very significant and consequential problem in a nation in our hemisphere and so close to our southern border.

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      • Sherri Young says:

        From what I have been able to derive, Venezuela is Pompeo’s issue. It appears to me that Trump delegated the problem to Pompeo several months ago but provides executive backup.

        JMHO.

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      • POTUS picks people for a particular problem/initiative based on their talents, McMaster, Tillerson, Cohen for example. None of those were MAGA individuals, several of them undercut & bashed POTUS but they accomplished the mission and were then discarded.
        Why would this be any different?
        I see people suggesting that Abrams is going to invade, send troops? That isn’t within his power. He works under Pompeo who works under POTUS. Abrams is there for his diplomatic experience to navigate this crisis and help the establishment of a Venezuelan chosen Democratic government and the reestablishment of normal diplomatic relations.

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        • railer says:

          “Abrams is there for his diplomatic experience to navigate this crisis and help the establishment of a Venezuelan chosen Democratic government and the reestablishment of normal diplomatic relations.”

          This is what the neocons always say, word for word. It’s getting pretty trite now.

          In reality, they are there to position for war to protect Wall Street’s interests and investment. It’s what neocon globalists do. It’s all they do in government.

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    • Attorney at Law says:

      Agree about utilizing enemies. Use them for what is needed, then proceed to remove them. Many may not realize that if well executed, even the enemy can help out (they may not be aware) but it does occur.
      Classic example of Pelosi with her overzealous victory screech.

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  8. Mike in a Truck says:

    Great, another Neo Bolshevik on the Trump team. Gets better every week.

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  9. Hutzpa says:

    Doesn’t Abrams report to Secretary Pompeo and ultimately President Trump?

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    • GB Bari says:

      Yes.

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    • yucki says:

      You better believe it!
      That’s ALL that counts.

      And for all those hurling into catastrophe mode – neocon! warmonger! hair-on-fire Vietnam! Iraq! – frenzy:

      ==> Remember: Past is not prologue in the Trump Administration.
      Keep your eyes open, and fasten your seatbelts.
      Be grateful, be humble, and thank-G-d you’re sitting where you are right now.

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  10. covfefe999 says:

    Maybe it’s just me but I detected a not-so-subtle implicit slam of Clinton when Pompeo said “we’ll get this right” protecting our State Department employees who are in Venezuela.

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  11. covfefe999 says:

    Lots of concern trolls here today, I see. 🙂

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    • Sharpshorts says:

      Yes, I noticed that too covfefe999. This CTH post was a news announcement. It provides information regarding what’s happening…
      Many comments here are injecting narratives and jumping to conclusions – which is best done on the Daily thread IMO.

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    • yucki says:

      It’s crazy-making. Endless carping.
      Fact is, this is a glorious new day for people of Venezuela.

      They would’ve come to this point sooner or later. Give the CIA-coup fantasies a rest!

      Venezuelans are a whole lot better off than the people of Egypt after they threw out the Muslim Brotherhood.
      – – Oh, they “voted” for the MB?!
      – – Maybe, maybe they knew too little, whatever.
      After a short time they turned out in their MILLIONS to RID their country of that EVIL crew.

      0bama, et al., tried in every way to keep the Brethren in power. As horrendous as they were revealing themselves to be. (Crucifying Coptic Christians, just for starters…)

      PTrump has been watching Venezuela, waiting.
      The elections on Jan. 19 were corrupt: THAT was the tripwire. For ALL the countries supporting the new government.

      The Constitution of Venezuela provides the LEGAL framework to address disputed elections. That’s this young guy, Head of Congress, Juan Guaidó. It’s an interim government till new elections are scheduled.

      This is NOT a coup: it’s proper procedure. The Organization of American States, together with our President, are supporting constitutional law.

      Now we’re sending $20M in food and medicine to Venezuela. PT’s appointed someone who knows the neighborhood to coordinate with our Latin American partners. Colombia, Brazil, good leaders.

      The people of Venezuela are finally catching a break. It’s good news.

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  12. JohninMK says:

    Venezuelan crude is vitally important to several major US oil refineries and cannot easily be replaced as it is a very heavy grade. If they stop shipping it and the US has said the Government there are not getting any money for it, nor the money already due to them for past shipments, so they may as well. Are you happy with the probable resultant uplift in prices at your local gas station?

    Are you also aware that US fracked oil is very light grade that it is not possible or very expensive to frack diesel from it? Due to this diesel supplies are under pressure around the World. Curtailing this source of crude into those refineries is only going to make that worse, putting real price and supply pressure onto the trucking industry in the US. I am not certain but it could also effect aviation fuel as well.

    This is just one area of unintended consequence just waiting round the corner. I somehow doubt that this has been explained to the President. At his level in government or business you are only as good as the information and advise given to you. If those delivering that information have a hidden agenda you have a big problem. The appointment of Abrams points to that being the case.

    Enjoy your day.

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    • GB Bari says:

      Your last full paragraph is in stark, direct conflict with the reality of the past two years of PDJT’s successes in foreign relations.

      The current President has repeatedly demonstrated that he has few “unintended consequences” unaddressed in any of his larger strategies. And your assertion that President Trump is unaware of the ramifications of Venezuela’s political situation on its oil industry requires a complete denial of recent history, the President’s track record, his intellect, and his foresight.

      All of this has been faithfully and comprehensively chronicled on this website.

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      • JohninMK says:

        I agree that the President is no fool, indeed quite the opposite, but he cannot be expected to know, off the top of his head, everything about all the subjects that require his attention of which Venezuela is just one. I couldn’t do his job but I stand by my comment on his, like any CEO, vulnerability to incomplete or misleading information and advice. Of course I don’t know if this was the case this time, I hope not.

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        • Pompeo is on record as stating that the thing that most impressed him about POTUS was the in depth and incisive questioning by the President on every topic at their briefings. I agree that that ability is one that separates great executive officers from mediocre ones but I think that President Trump has this covered. He is a detail man; you have to be a detail person to have multilayered plans and to plan several steps ahead as POTUS does.

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        • GB Bari says:

          The fact that PDJT first chose ExxonMobil CEO Rex Tillerson as SOS says that the President very keenly understands the global oil industry and how it plays strongly in international relations. I cannot reconcile your assertions with the President’s actions of record.

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    • railer says:

      Disagree. The West Texas Intermediate is the good stuff, light and sweet, similar to the North Sea crude. Heavy and sour crude is plentiful. We can get it from the Saudis, or from the Canadian tar sands if we want, or Mexico or wherever. The price of crude has been dropping all throughout these past months of Venezuelan festivities, so the market doesn’t appear to be recognizing any vital nature of Venezuelan crude. I’d say the market’s got this one right. They could drop out of the market and we’d barely notice, at this point. Hence China’s involvement, they’ll take any oil source they can get, especially if they can barter for it outside the petrodollar, which pisses off the Abrams of this world of course.

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      • Robert Smith says:

        The Canadian would have to be able to get their Tar Sand oil to us. Have they managed to unscrew (unTrudeau) themselves in the energy sector yet?

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        • railer says:

          Canada has been sending Albertan tar sands oil down through Wisconsin, Illinois , to the BP refinery in Indiana and into Marathon’s in Michigan for at least 10 years now, long before Trudeau. Good capacity pipeline all the way through, tankage and pumping capacity, the works. All of the refineries along the way upgraded and suitable for cracking the sulfur out of that sour Albertan crude.

          Problem for Alberta is, nobody wants that heavy crude. It’s far more expensive to refine than other sources.

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      • JohninMK says:

        I am pleased with the content of your comment and I sincerely hope that you are correct. Time will show.

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    • Sherri Young says:

      More on Citgo, debt, and the courts. The Citgo refinery in Corpus Christi has been taken offline. Short article provides a brief explanation of the court case with Crystallex.

      Citgo, Reuters notes, has been running its refineries at lower than usual rates as a result of lack of spare parts, underinvestment, and low flows of light crude that refineries need to mix with Venezuelan heavy crude to produce fuels and other products.

      https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Citgo-Suspends-Oil-Refinery-Unit-In-Texas.html

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  13. decisiontime16 says:

    Some background…

    Elliott Abrams is senior fellow for Middle Eastern studies at the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) in Washington, DC.

    Abrams is the author of five books: 

    Undue Process, Security and Sacrifice, Faith or Fear: How Jews Can Survive in a Christian America, Tested by Zion: The Bush Administration and the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, and most recently Realism and Democracy: American Foreign Policy After the Arab Spring. 

    He is the editor of three more, :

    Close Calls: Intervention, Terrorism, Missile Defense and “Just War” Today; Honor Among Nations: Intangible Interests and Foreign Policy; and The Influence of Faith: Religious Groups and U.S. Foreign Policy.

    He is fluent in French and Spanish.

    Affiliations: 
    Georgetown University, adjunct professor
    Israel Democracy Institute, international advisory council
    Jewish People Policy Institute, board member
    National Endowment for Democracy, board member
    NGO Monitor, international advisory board
    Tikvah Fund, board member

    https://www.cfr.org/expert/elliott-abrams

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    • smurfette says:

      YUCK. ANOTHER MIDDLE EASTERN “SPECIALIST” dabbling in a different continent other than the mid-east. He wrote a book on “How Jews Can Survive in a Christian America, Tested by Zion: The Bush Administration and the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict”? It figures.

      President Trump recently tweeted that the Game of Thorns was a good read. Thorns is actually a reference to a murdered author Victor Thorns who investigated Israeli involvement in 911. He died of a gunshot. So who exactly killed him…….the Osamas? I doubt it. Facts that make you wonder it’s all been a false flag through history. I always wondered why Soros is so intent on destroying America. He got his first foothold in Britain where the first takeover took place. I want the truth and nothing but the truth now.

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  14. Amber says:

    I told y”all I NEVER trusted Pompeo. Sadly my intuition was right

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  15. deborah foster says:

    Venezuela, before Chavez, was home to one of the largest barrios in the world. I was easy for the socialist Chavez to promise the moon and more to these impoverished people. They were too uneducated to know what was going to be the real outcome. I know a few Venezuelans who are now citizens of the US. They are sweet and wonderful young men who respect their elders. In Venezuela, they were middle class, considered rich there. They saw what was coming, They were really in danger. The kids came here just before Chavez and the parents stayed. I hope the best for this country. A new regime could possibly keep them from migrating from here.

    No one has mentioned sending US troops, so keep your wits about you and pray for the US and the people there. I hope they have learned their lesson. Time will tell.

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    • Sherri Young says:

      In July of 2017, Trump said that he would not take military intervention off the table. This was in response to Maduro making another flamethrower assertion about the US. IMO, it was a negotiating piece, a matter Trump not weakening his position.

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  16. BarneyRubble says:

    Abrams = Trotskyite neocon

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    • Buck says:

      SmH, The band is back together!
      We’re witnessing the third term of W Bush NeoCon foreign policy (regime change)
      The NeoCon Dream Team is Back!
      Too bad old man McCain isn’t around to get some of this.

      Complete with fresh buzz phrases, ‘Axis of Evil,’ Pick A Side’ and ‘You’re either with us or the Terrorists’
      Someone fire up Dick Cheney’s new heart pump, we’ve got regimes to dispatch, we’ve got new oil to pump!
      Quick, go long Halliburton, KBR and The Carlyle Group!

      Regime change is always about Profit!
      Always.

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  17. Paul Tibbets says:

    Again, something does not compute here.

    How can the Trump administration be so masterful and commanding on the foreign policy and economic side of things but then on the domestic side be full retard?

    It does not make sense.

    Roger Stone gets a morning raid by the FBI thanks to Mueller, when all Muller had to do was tell Stone that he was being indicted and set a court date to appear.

    When you are weak, you want to appear strong. Mueller taking this action shows he has got nothing.

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  18. stablesort says:

    What would happen if the Russian missile batteries in Ukraine were suddenly disappeared?

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  19. James F says:

    Dems take me money and turn into Venezuela!

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  20. Realist says:

    Just watched a British University Professor from Newcastle University being interviewed on the UK version of Fake News CNN, SKY News and it seems Socialism has nothing to do with any of Venezuela’s problems it at all and all Venezuela’s the trouble stems from interference in their Socialism by the USA and all the other Western Nations. The interviewer just let him ramble on with no comment and fed him soft touch questions. So there you have it straight from the COMMIE Professors mouth now just imagine what he teaches the students who take his courses.

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    • smurfette says:

      The Russians have banned the cabal central banks and like Germany which once did that too until Hitler was put in place. The Reichsbank which was a state bank was destroyed and globalist cabal banks infiltrated to make way for the Merkels of today. I’m starting to question if Maduro was a false flag to put a cabal selected president in place?

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  21. CTH Fan says:

    In my opinion, Any person that was involved in the Iran Contra debacle would be highly suspicious to me. According to one poster, Abrams and his team somehow tried to lay the blame for that enterprise at President Regan’s feet. IF TRUE, a great deal of caution is necessary.

    What happens if Abrams’ starts a similar type action in VZ and purposely has a failed attempt and leaves false breadcrumbs leading to POTUS.? He dislikes POTUS.

    Have we not just seen what happens when POTUS puts too much trust into a man who was previously against him and purports to now support him?

    Remember the snake poem Mr. President.

    To be clear!!! I like Secretary Pompeo and think he is doing a great job. Just a word of caution Mr President, just a word of caution.

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  22. Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

    Perhaps what they need in Caracas is for a military leader to step forward like Al Sisi did in Egypt. It looks like the dictator Maduro is determined to continue his tenuous hold on the leadership of that country. Unfortunately there may come a time when similar actions will be necessary to beat back the DeepState bad actors who are running the shadowGovernment in America. Their jackboots rum rampant terrorizing harmless citizens and the civilian leadership seems powerless to stop them. The president can nominate new Attorneys General until the cows come home but nothing seems to change. G_d help us!

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  23. Sherri Young says:

    The US’s best weapon is humanitarian aid through Guaido. Maduro keeps the underclass loyal via direct food distribution. The welfare money from those ATM cards no longer counts for much since the currency has lost almost all value.

    This video from just before the election in question quiet succinctly explains Venezuela.

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  24. emeraldcoaster says:

    Secretary Pompeo has proven to be a key asset for our president. While I’m watching what actions the U.S. takes in support of the Venezalian people, disengagement would prove to be a feckless option.

    Una Venezuela libre sería buena para Estados Unidos.

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  25. Doppler says:

    I, too, regard Elliot Abrams as part of the backbone of the Deep State, blood siblings with Victoria Nuland, professional neo-con coup instigators, their loyalties to their Marxist-Trotsky-Strauss-Kristol-Podhoritz engendered cadre and no one else, completely unaccountable to the people or our elected leaders. Can this have a good result? We’ll see.

    Of additional interest is the timing, politically, and the response of the MSM. Friday was the day the President blinked in his facedown with Pelosi, the Dems and the MSM beside themselves showing the rare celebratory side to their Trump Derangement. Could not be a moment of greater domestic political weakness from which an international coup offers a distraction. However, Guaido acted Wednesday, to announce his presidency, unclear what role the US may have played in that timing.

    And how does the MSM treat it? Why, it is only thing the President has done in two years that they haven’t fallen all over themselves ridiculing. That makes sense if this a Deep State operation. Or if it was purely driven by Venezuelans, and we’re just responding, with Abrams put in place now to protect deep state interests in a potentially chaotic situation.

    The first question from the press to Pompeo was, what about Venezuela’s $400B in gold frozen in London? Sounds like a Deep State globalist concern to me.

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    • thegoosefish says:

      It’s $1.2 billion, not $400 billion. Not really enough to do too much, but certainly enough to make a good nest egg for a fleeing leader. Probably that is the underlying premise of denial and probably that is why we recognized the opposition President. So the London Banks can say, “wait, we think the proper President is Guaido, and he hasn’t authorized it.” But, if I was the London Banker, I think my duty is to my customer, and refusal to deliver the gold means there is nothing that overcomes politics. Which is too bad.

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    • yucki says:

      The results of the election came in Jan. 19, I think. It’s taken a couple days for the members of the OAS to confer. Brazil and Colombia are shouldering much of the refugee burden. The timeline wasn’t driven by our domestic issues.

      (Every day’s an ISSUE for the hair-on-fire brigade.)

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      • Sherri Young says:

        The election was in May of 2018. Maduro was encouraged not to go through with his inauguration but did anyway on January 10th. I am not aware of anything of great significance that occured on Jan 19th. The nationwide protest was called for Jan 23rd, the anniversary of the day in 1958 when another dictator was deposed.

        You’re right that the timeline wasn’t driven by our domestic issues.

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  26. thegoosefish says:

    Bottom line, if by far a majority of Venezuelans want our help, we should help, and then help ourselves, not in an unfair way, but by establishing commercial interests and promoting American companies. America First. But we should be very, very, sure that is what the vast majority of the Venezuelan populace wants. And not rely on specious intelligence.

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  27. Sherri Young says:

    Eliot Abrams does not seem to be the right person to interact with the UN on the matter of Venezuela if the focus is to stay on Venezuela. As noted repeatedly on this thread, Eliot Abrams is a Jew who is active in Jewish matters. Venezuela broke diplomatic ties with Israel in 2009 and recognized Palestine. Maduro was the foreign minister at the time. The UN is filled with muslim representatives of muslim countries. IIRC, their voting strength is 56. In my view, the appointment of Abrams further complicates the matter.

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    • thegoosefish says:

      In case you didn’t notice, Trump is very partial to Jews and Israel; probably for a good reason, having worked with many in both countries over the years and coming to understand them and their methods and coming to the conclusion their reasoning and methods are superior and ethical. Some say he is the first Jewish president. So that is just the way it is. Also, Abrams also took a criminal conviction over Reagan’s Contra scandal and was pardoned. Perhaps Trump feels he understands how the political machine works and was impressed with the way he stood up under the pressure.

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      • Sherri Young says:

        I absolutely have noticed and truly do appreciate Trump’s stance on Israel. IMO, he could not be more correct.

        What I am saying is that there surely must be someone out there besides Eliot Abrams who could be appointed and who could be expected to have more success with the UN. Seeing Eliot Abrams there may very well cause the muslims to dig in their heels and amp up the situation in both Venezuela and the Middle East.

        As far as I am concerned, the better approach would be for Israel to wait a bit, test the waters, and send in humanitarian aid through Guaido. I think we are going to send one of our hospital ships. The Israelis have teams of doctors who have done disaster relief. Venezuela is a disaster.

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        • smurfette says:

          It’s not true that PDJT is the first pro-Israel president. All the neocon presidents like Bush Jr were pro-Israel. Preston Bush was pro-Hitler Third Reich, so question what organization was really behind the Nazi wars.

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      • smurfette says:

        Jared, Jared, Jared. New York, New York, New York.

        Hmmm. We don’t need those Israel-Palestinian Neo-conservative wars here any more. Although, I have to say in defence of President Trump, he is taking down the fed bank and against cabal institutions.

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    • yucki says:

      We can’t appease the villainous UN.

      The newly elected mayor of Mexico City is a Jewish woman, Hezbollah colonies can be found all over the place. Evangelicals are pro-Israel. Argentina has lots of everything.

      I’m not sure it bothers Latinos, just not a big issue.

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  28. Right to reply says:

    Brilliant!

    Syria, weakens China, Iran, Russia
    Venezuela, weakens China, Iran, Russia

    Next it will be Turkey’s turn 🙂

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    • thedoc00 says:

      You need to read some history. Russia, China and Cuba were the root of the Angolan Civil War. The entire war was fought via surrogates and created the disaster of the current Angolan Nation, but the globalists are happy because all the money producing parts of Angola are not controlled by the Angolan Government. Venezuela is headed down the same path by the same actors, using the exact same game plan.

      Pompeo as made all the right moves so far by involving the OAS and key OAS members have supported the US. Next freeze financial assets except for cleared Humanitarian needs. The OAS and US need to focus on keeping Russia, China and Cuba out of the fray while letting the Venezuelan’s sort out their future.

      One very key decision the pro-democracy folks in Venezuela can make now that will be invaluable is declare Amnesty for Military Leaders as well as Government members who defect and recognize their role in keeping uninvited foreign forces out of the decision being made by the Venezuelan people. This move has been very successful in the past and will go along way to limiting the violence.

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  29. Caius Lowell says:

    Venezuela — yet another gift d’Obama…

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  30. Troublemaker10 says:

    What ever happened to all those Hollywood socialists (Sean Penn, Michael Moore, etc) who supported Chavez and Maduro…..and praised Venezuela’s transition to socialism? They sure have been quiet lately.

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  31. duchess01 says:

    BREAKING 🔴 President Trump Administration make UNPRECEDENTED Move on the World Stage at the UN

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  32. bessie2003 says:

    Excellent comments all around; really learning a lot that I’d forgotten about history.

    In the longer view, to me, so just opinion, with putting both Abrams and the temporary shut-down reprieve into play, both look actions act as relief valves to lessen the tensions that have been steadily building up.

    Using Abrams gives a relief valve for all the neo-cons screaming for war, basically anywhere, whether with Russia, Ukraine, Syria, so now they have a Venezuelan focus;

    and with the temporary end to the shut-down also a relief valve for the federal employees caught in the middle without any long term plans.

    This also gives a window for both sides as to what the next long term shut down is going to be like; especially for the Administration it gives them a relief valve to take stock of what lessons they learned, where to tweak what they do.

    Relief valves.

    I think we’re about to see just how special and stable our President and his band of wolverines are. It’s complicated business, and we have the best at our President’s disposal than we’ve seen in a few generations.

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  33. Buck says:

    The old Iran Contra gang is making a comeback.
    Elliot Abrams got caught, pled guilty to a couple of counts of lying to Congress if I recall, Incoming AG Barr had HW Bush pardon everyone on the way out.
    Small, little cabal DC is.
    They ‘about to run train’ as AOC says.
    MAGA!

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  34. GREENMIRROR says:

    whose team are they on?

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    • They needn’t be on any particular ‘team’. It is not uncommon for internal chaos to result in neighbors taking advantage of such chaos to acquire ‘assets’ in the country experiencing the chaos. Most likely this is just military SOP for that part of the world and the military is executing a pre-existing contingency plan.

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  35. Elliot Abrams? Wow, that’s a ‘blast from the past’. The man does not give me that warm fuzzy feeling.

    However, I will grant that (a) Abrams has knowledge of that part of the world and (b) knows something about counter-insurgency.

    Since the ouster of Maduro is likely to lead to ‘insurgency’ of some kind, he may, at this particular moment, be the best person for the job.

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  36. trapper says:

    My first thought was “Elliot Abrams? Seriously? What’s next? Bill Kristol as the new White House speech writer?”

    Then, on reflection: Venezuela is teetering on the brink of becoming a failed state. As it currently stands there is no reason to see in its future anything other than an accelerating descent into lawlessness. So, to be prepared for that, why not bring on someone who has experience running counterinsurgencies in that part of the world? Don’t have to like him. Don’t have to agree with him politically. Just have to use him, then thank him and cut him loose once a new government is in place that causes Venezuela’s neighbors to breathe easier and that will not be a destabilizing force in the region.

    Oh, and Russia and China blowing hot air is just that. Posturing. Russia is not about to test Trump in the Western Hemisphere. Certainly not after getting a taste of it in Syria.

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