Wednesday November 21st – Open Thread

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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321 Responses to Wednesday November 21st – Open Thread

  1. duchess01 says:

    Verse of the Day

    “And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.”
    John 14:3 (KJV)

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  2. Dora says:

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    • Dave says:

      The federal judge should have his own genitalia mutilated! The way the muslim “doctors” go about this practice is barbaric! In some countries, the “surgery” is often performed with unsterilized tools and stitches, and is traumatic as well as painful for the victim! Perhaps, this amplifies the hate that female muslims have later in life. I guess the Supreme Court will eventually rule on this travesty.

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      • Mandy says:

        I’m appalled at this decision. I find FGM an abhorrent and disgusting practice. That said…

        U.S. District Judge Bernard Friedman made this ruling.

        “The Rite of Circumcision

        Jews accept the fact that the rite of circumcision is an obligation for their sons, to be performed on the 8th day after birth, as taught in the Old Testament. Many contemporary Jews choose to observe the rite, but for convenience sake, have it done by a pediatrician/surgeon while the baby is yet at the hospital, somewhere between day 2 and 3. Those of the Orthodox and Conservative have their sons circumcised by a rabbi who has been as highly trained in the specialization of circumcision as is a surgeon. This rabbi is known as a Mohel, and the procedure is generally done on the 8th day, in the home, and in the presence of family and friends gathered together to celebrate the rite of passage into the Abrahamic Covenant. This Covenant can be found in the T’nach, in Genesis 17: 9-14:”

        Did Judge Friedman have any choice here, guys? Consider this….

        If FEMALE genital mutilation is banned…what happens to the jewish practice of male circumcision (which some call MALE genital mutilation)?

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        • Deplorable_Infidel says:

          There is nothing about FGM that compares to male circumcision. There is nothing in scripture (the only thing that matters) about doing anything to women’s bodies to alter their anatomy.

          The nation Israel no longer holds an elevated status above the other nations during the present dispensation of grace. Therefore, circumcision is no longer necessary. God will go back to dealing with Israel after he returns “in the air” for his church. ( 1Thess 4:17)

          Ephesians 2:11 ¶ Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
          12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

          13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
          14 ¶ For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

          15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
          16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

          Jews will not accept that because they are blinded today.

          Romans 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded

          2Corinthians 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.


          • Deplorable_Infidel says:

            “There is nothing in scripture (the only thing that matters)”

            Mark 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. 8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.


        • BigMamaTEA says:

          NOTHING. Lawyers called it “circumcision” for a win. Removing the foreskin of the male member, does absolutely nothing to restrict or reduce the sexual please of males.

          Clitorectomy, or worse, is what FGM is. While there are still some remaining nerve endings inside the vaginal walls for females……some countries actually literally sew together the vaginal lips of females, leaving a small opening for urine to escape. The say it proves “purity” in their females. So, upon their forced marriage, those females are literally ripped apart by their new husband.


          • BigMamaTEA says:

            This issue makes me so mad, I almost can’t type. (as you see my typos above!)
            There are several books out written by victims. The
            amongst other subjects, has addressed this for years. I helped them raise money years ago, to produce their first film addressing the issue. Since then, they’ve developed an sideline operation fighting FGM.

            In fact, they’ve now produced several films, that are not graphic literally,but they do share the females holding down a young girl during the procedure and you can hear screams….. that now they are fighting with youtube to air.

            I support them 110%. We cannot allow this ruling to stand in the US! These are the first Foreign, but US licensed physicians busted performing this. For since as long as at least the 70’s, families have been “sending their young girls back home” for this to be done to them.

            THIS must STOP NOW. (As their numbers increase here, you will see more of this here!)


      • Deplorable_Infidel says:

        “the “surgery” is often performed with unsterilized tools”

        Like razor blades or pieces of glass. I am not posting the videos here (if the documentaries are still on YouTube)

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        • Mandy says:

          ‘unsterilized tools’ which end up causing infection/disease/death. Not unlike …

          “Why Ultra-Orthodox Jewish Babies Keep Getting Herpes”

          And while I’ve not sought them out, I am pretty sure there are videos of the jewish practice available, not posting those here, either….


          • Deplorable_Infidel says:

            “videos of the jewish practice”

            About 15-20 years ago, there was an automobile commercial that came out (do not recall the brand) of a Mohel performing a circumcision in the moving auto, to demonstrate how smooth and stable the ride was. It was not done on our neglected and potholed roads here in NY! (gasoline taxes swept into the “general fund”)


          • auscitizenmom says:

            This is a disgusting and unhealthy practice. There is NO need for it. Makes you wonder how many are pedophiles.


            • BigMamaTEA says:

              The entire point of FGM is to remove the clitoris of females. In some countries, they take it further than that, and literally butcher the female genitalia, and then sew the outer lips together, leaving a small space for urine to escape. For those mutilated girls, even starting their menstrual cycles, can lead to massive genital infections, with death and or sterility, let alone the emotional trauma and extensive reconstructive surgery required just for normal body functions, let alone sex, if they’re lucky and can escape where they’re from.

              Several women have escaped to the western world and written books.


  3. Dora says:


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  4. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ infidels!

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  5. Deplorable_Infidel says:

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  6. Old School says:

    Bear with me please…In my morning prayer and meditation time I came across this idea presented by James E. Ryan (Dean of Harvard’s Graduate School of Education) in his book “Wait, What?” on pages 66 – 67. He begins by telling us that studies of social media reveal that rather than people becoming enlightened by the wealth of information, we are actually polarizing into “virtual gated communities” where like-minded individuals reinforce each other’s views. This is called “group polarization”. The danger in this is that we go off the rails and encourage each other to become more extreme in our beliefs – eventually demonizing the other side. He proposes a solution near the bottom of page 67 – that we ask a question “Couldn’t we a least…” – in an effort to find SOME common ground. This ends with his conclusion that “If you CAN find common ground with others, especially those with different views, you are likely to see the world as a more nuanced place.” Now, I love this gated community and I enjoy reading many insightful and humorous opinions from people that I agree with and support whole-heartedly; but couldn’t we just agree that we may want to stop short of civil war. A kingdom divided can not stand. Our great nation needs cleansing – a purge of the corrupt at the top – there is no doubt; but at some point maybe we benefit from offering an olive branch to those across the isle – even in a friendship with the liberal next door. I bet there are things that MOST of us working and raising our families in the general population can agree on regardless of who we voted for. If we can find that perhaps we can build from there. Just a thought. I wish you all a very happy Thanksgiving. God bless America!

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    • Jim in TN says:

      Be careful.

      And remember, all my life partisanship has been defined in the media as what Republicans want. Democrats can never be partisan. And bipartisanship has been defined as Republicans doing what the Democrats want. And every time that happens, the Democrats move even further to the left, taking up new issues that will separate them from Republicans.

      Also, Republicans don’t take to the view that opposing opinions are evil. So, best of luck, but be careful.

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    • III%er says:

      While we might like to stop short of a civil war, I don’t know that is an option unless you are willing to give in to socialism, political correct speech and ideas, and eventually total control of everything in your life. Personally, that would be a no for me.

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      • Old School says:

        Fair enough… I did not mean to insinuate that we compromise on our core values. I just wonder if it really is that bad that there is no common ground at all.


  7. duchess01 says:

    George Washington’s 1789 Thanksgiving Proclamation

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  8. andrewalinxs says:

    was I the only one unaware that the State of Colorado was still trying to punish Master Piece Cake?


  9. Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

    Hear some more sophomoric ramblings of an ex president.
    (Nov. 19, 2018 – 2 minutes of impaired jibberish)

    “People call me Spock for a reason.” ~ BHO
    His ears do not much resemble Mr. Spock.

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  10. F.D.R. in Hell says:

    Let’s get serious for a moment… ICYMI

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    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      Only 8 nations not interested in self- destruction? It just goes to show how blinded our “leaders” are.

      Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

      Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

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    • BigMamaTEA says:

      SHARE this everywhere!!! Thanks Frankie. I’m always looking for “short, simple” ways to get a basic message out.


  11. Sepp says:

    Synaxis of the Holy Archangels Michael and Gabriel, and all the Bodiless Powers

    This Feast is today, November 8th on the traditional Orthodox Christian Church Calendar (November 21st civil calendar).

    The link below is to a homily that is rich in theology, Church history, and Holy Scripture.

    Another homily – “Concerning the Angels” – from Saint John of Damascus is at the next link below.

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  12. For Thanksgiving. A repost of this …..

    Trump’s ‘lack of decorum, dignity, and statesmanship’

    By Evan Sayet

    My Leftist friends (as well as many ardent #NeverTrumpers) constantly ask me if I’m not bothered by Donald Trump’s lack of decorum. They ask if I don’t think his tweets are “beneath the dignity of the office”
    Here’s my answer:
    We Right-thinking people have tried dignity. There could not have been a man of more quiet dignity than George W. Bush as he suffered the outrageous lies and politically motivated hatreds that undermined his presidency.
    We tried statesmanship.
    Could there be another human being on this earth who so desperately prized “collegiality” as John McCain?
    We tried propriety – has there been a nicer human being ever than Mitt Romney?
    And the results were always the same. This is because, while we were playing by the rules of dignity, collegiality and propriety, the Left has been, for the past 60 years, engaged in a knife fight where the only rules are those of Saul Alinsky and the Chicago mob.
    I don’t find anything “dignified,” “collegial” or “proper” about Barack Obama’s lying about what went down on the streets of Ferguson in order to ramp up racial hatreds because racial hatreds serve the Democratic Party.
    I don’t see anything “dignified” in lying about the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi and imprisoning an innocent filmmaker to cover your tracks.
    I don’t see anything “statesman-like” in weaponizing the IRS to be used to destroy your political opponents and any dissent.
    Yes, Obama was “articulate” and “polished” but in no way was he in the least bit “dignified,” “collegial” or “proper.”
    The Left has been engaged in a war against America since the rise of the Children of the ‘60s. To them, it has been an all-out war where nothing is held sacred and nothing is seen as beyond the pale.. It has been a war they’ve fought with violence, the threat of violence, demagoguery and lies from day one – the violent take-over of the universities – till today.
    The problem is that, through these years, the Left has been the only side fighting this war. While the Left has been taking a knife to anyone who stands in their way, the Right has continued to act with dignity, collegiality and propriety.
    With Donald Trump, this all has come to an end. Donald Trump is America ’s first wartime president in the Culture War.
    During wartime, things like “dignity” and “collegiality” simply aren’t the most essential qualities one looks for in their warriors. Ulysses Grant was a drunk whose behavior in peacetime might well have seen him drummed out of the Army for conduct unbecoming.
    Had Abraham Lincoln applied the peacetime rules of propriety and booted Grant, the Democrats might well still be holding their slaves today.
    Lincoln rightly recognized that, “I cannot spare this man. He fights.”
    General George Patton was a vulgar-talking.. In peacetime, this might have seen him stripped of rank. But, had Franklin Roosevelt applied the normal rules of decorum then, Hitler and the Socialists would barely be five decades into their thousand-year Reich.
    Trump is fighting. And what’s particularly delicious is that, like Patton standing over the battlefield as his tanks obliterated Rommel’s, he’s shouting, “You magnificent bastards, I read your book!”
    That is just the icing on the cake, but it’s wonderful to see that not only is Trump fighting, he’s defeating the Left using their own tactics. That book is Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals – a book so essential to the Liberals’ war against America that it is and was the playbook for the entire Obama administration and the subject of Hillary Clinton’s senior thesis.
    It is a book of such pure evil, that, just as the rest of us would dedicate our book to those we most love or those to whom we are most indebted, Alinsky dedicated his book to Lucifer.
    Trump’s tweets may seem rash and unconsidered but, in reality, he is doing exactly what Alinsky suggested his followers do. First, instead of going after “the fake media” — and they are so fake that they have literally gotten every single significant story of the past 60 years not just wrong, but diametrically opposed to the truth, from the Tet Offensive to Benghazi, to what really happened on the streets of Ferguson, Missouri — Trump isolated CNN.. He made it personal.
    Then, just as Alinsky suggests, he employs ridicule which Alinsky described as “the most powerful weapon of all.”… Most importantly, Trump’s tweets have put CNN in an untenable and unwinnable position. … They need to respond.
    This leaves them with only two choices. They can either “go high” (as Hillary would disingenuously declare of herself and the fake news would disingenuously report as the truth) and begin to honestly and accurately report the news or they can double-down on their usual tactics and hope to defeat Trump with twice their usual hysteria and demagoguery.
    The problem for CNN (et al.) with the former is that, if they were to start honestly reporting the news, that would be the end of the Democratic Party they serve.
    It is nothing but the incessant use of fake news (read: propaganda) that keeps the Left alive.
    Imagine, for example, if CNN had honestly and accurately reported then-candidate Barack Obama’s close ties to foreign terrorists (Rashid Khalidi), domestic terrorists (William Ayers & Bernardine Dohrn), the mafia (Tony Rezko) or the true evils of his spiritual mentor, Jeremiah Wright’s church.
    Imagine if they had honestly and accurately conveyed the evils of the Obama administration’s weaponizing of the IRS to be used against their political opponents or his running of guns to the Mexican cartels or the truth about the murder of Ambassador Christopher Stevens and the Obama administration’s cover-up.
    So, to my friends on the Left — and the #NeverTrumpers as well — do I wish we lived in a time when our president could be “collegial” and “dignified” and “proper”? Of course I do.
    These aren’t those times. This is war. And it’s a war that the Left has been fighting without opposition for the past 50 years.
    So, say anything you want about this president – I get it – he can be vulgar, he can be crude, he can be undignified at times. I don’t care. I can’t spare this man. He fights for America!

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  14. amwick says:

    So normally I am not one to think in terms of VSGPotus should do this or that… He doesn’t need my help, nope, not at all..
    But I had one little idea, seeing as how he is the chief law enforcement officer and all that… I think he should declare calorie counting on Thanksgiving a felony. Yes. That would be great… Along with pardoning a turkey, he could make it a one day crime, or something.
    My pie is out of the oven,,, he better hurry. 🙂 Think I will tweet him this suggestion…

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  15. Donna in Oregon says:

    Prayer for the Globalists, Dims, especially Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer and the RINOs:

    “For by strength no man shall prevail. The adversaries of the Lord shall be broken in pieces;
    From heaven He will thunder against them. The Lord will judge the ends of the earth.”

    1 Samuel 2:10

    Father, I pray for Globalists/Dims/Socialists that You might expose the evil done against America and that the perpetrators might be brought to repentance or else experience the pain he/she inflicted on others. Let them be unable to sleep; awaken them with the painful reality of what they’ve done and judge them accordingly. If granting them blessings will lead them to repentance, then we pray for their blessing. If it must be tragedy that awakens them to the trail of evil they have left behind, then do whatever is necessary to bring to their senses.

    Meanwhile give us the sure confidence that You will do what is right and good; let us entrust the evil done against us into Your sovereign hand, and with that, let us be content.

    In Jesus’ name, Amen.

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  16. patrickhenrycensored says:

    Conservative Watchdog Group Releases Christmas Guide So You Can Avoid Sponsoring The Left’s Agenda

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  17. SwampRatTerrier says:

    Trump Winning in Trade War with China – The U.S. trade deficit with China drops by 17 percent: EconPol Europe

    Contrary to the mainstream media reporting, President Donald Trump may be winning the trade war with China, according to a leading European think tank.

    The tariffs placed by the Trump administration could narrow the U.S. trade deficit with China by 17 percent, a recent paper published by Munich-based EocnPol Europe projects.


  18. Lucille says:

    Detroit: Judge orders FGM charges dropped against Muslim doctor, says law against it is unconstitutional
    November 20, 2018 by Robert Spencer

    “The federal judge in Detroit ruled in the historic case on Tuesday, ruling the law that prevents female genital mutilation (FGM) is unconstitutional.”
    So apparently it cannot be outlawed at all. Welcome to the new, diverse, multicultural America.

    (This judge doesn’t even understand that what is not deemed a federal responsibility in the Constitution then falls to the states’ jurisdiction. If a state makes a law against FGM, it is a legit law just the same as it’s a legit law to make illegal the cutting off of your daughter’s arm just because your religion says it’s OK.

    Oh, excuse me, according to Chief Justice Roberts we’re not supposed to criticize judges for political bias…
    “Roberts raps Trump’s ‘Obama judge’ comment; Trump hits back”
    By MARK SHERMAN – November 21, 2018 – )


  19. Dora says:

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  20. Lucille says:

    On Watch: Exposing Mainstream Media Lies About the Illegal Alien Invasion
    Judicial Watch Channel

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    • BigMamaTEA says:

      joan…thanks for posting this….it’s almost impossible for me to keep up with every luny-left drama, etc, (One thing I’ve learned over all these years….is that when you’re literally on the verge of waking up a lib……showing them the ridiculousness of some of what libs are battling about…..helps to reinforce the TRUTH. (So, I keep a folder of the whacko’s and some easy to understand stupidity! Seen in the correct light, it’s undeniable, the sheer stupidity of some of their words and actions)

      Do you by chance, have a link where you got that info? It saves me a bit of time. I go capture that “crap” and show them their own reflection in the mirror! (It’s even better if it came from SwampMedia, or lefty sites!!! ha!)


  21. amwick says:

    So I have been working on a craft… where you transfer a laserjet image to wood. This has been a lot of fun, especially since I purchased the printer from our humane society thrift shop. The nice lady there gave me a good deal, and as a thank you I am trying to use this process for custom Christmas Ornaments.. One the front will be their logo, but on the back I did a collage of pets..
    I am curious how it will look so I am giving it a try here, hope you don’t mind… here goes:

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  22. auscitizenmom says:

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  23. auscitizenmom says:

    Prayer for Justice Kavanaugh:
    “After watching her husband rip into pro-death senators who used Dr. Christine Blasey Ford in attempts to derail the appointment of her husband to the U.S. Supreme Court, Ashley is asking all people of faith to unite in praying Psalm 40, which reads:”


    In Jesus’ name we pray. Amen

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  24. Bendix says:

    A couple of nice takeaways from church this Thanksgiving eve.
    First, a speaker pointed out Psalm 73, verses 16 and 17, which refer to verse 12.

    “This is what the wicked are like—
    always free of care, they go on amassing wealth.”

    This is something that bothers me a lot. We see these people doing better and better, and you all know who I’m talking about.
    Verses 16 through 17 are the antidote to being so bothered-

    “When I tried to understand all this,
    it troubled me deeply
    till I entered the sanctuary of God;
    then I understood their final destiny.”

    This helped me.
    I also liked seeing that the president’s proclamation for Thanksgiving was printed on the back cover of the church bulletin, and a prayer was said for President Trump.


  25. Lucille says:

    One of the many things for which to be thankful this holiday season and always…

    “Stunning Photo of Baby Who Survived Abortion Goes Viral”
    by Katie Franklin – November 21, 2018


  26. Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

    “There are Native Americans dying because you are dressing up as a Native American!” ~ NPC #18257

    What our kids “learn” about Thanksgiving in college these days.


  27. joan says:

    ABC under attack for airing Peanuts Thanksgiving with Snoopy and Charlie Brown

    Wanted to make sure this was noted: In 1973 Charlie Brown’s Thanksgiving cartoon aired and was almost pulled because *gasp* there was Franklin, Charlie Brown’s friend. Schulz kept Franklin in and the show went on to show friendship of all including Lucy, Peppermint Patty, Marcie, PigPen, canine and aviary.

    Fast forward today and under both the hashtag #Thanksgiving or #PeanutsThanksgiving “woke” tribalism now wants ABC who bought the rights to air Peanuts cartoons from CBS to never show Thanksgiving again because Franklin is on 1 side of the table by “himself” and on a beach chair.
    Not understanding that Linus is at the head of the table by himself, Franklin is on one side by himself, and Charlie Brown is surrounded by his sister (in love with Linus), Peppermint Patty (in love with “Chuck”), and his troublesome independent dog Snoopy. Linus, Franklin, and Marcie at the other end of the table are all independent voices. But “woke” tribalists see only 1 person of color not more, see Charlie Brown making Franklin sit on the lounge chair not a regular chair and their happy memories of watching a beloved cartoon are ruined thanks to academic liberals teaching these kids for the last 20 years from grade 2-college and its tearing us all apart.
    On Twitter 2018 liberals say Thanksgiving was ruined.


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