Butte County Sheriff – Missing Person List Now 630, Mostly Elderly….

A grim possibility for massive increases in the death toll is looming a week after a historic fire ripped through Paradise, CA, and killed at least 66 residents.  630 are missing, and the Butte County Sheriff’s Department has released the names:  SEE HERE

Gut wrenching video:


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173 Responses to Butte County Sheriff – Missing Person List Now 630, Mostly Elderly….

  1. And how many lives would sane fire management have saved?

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  2. Sporty says:

    This fire was so intense and moved so rapid these people never had a chance. Heartbreaking.

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    • kinthenorthwest says:

      Dead trees and other water dry flora burn very quickly.

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    • John says:

      And the government knew that the people would never have a chance.
      (I have lived in Paradise, and have lived in the general area over the last eight years.).
      It was well-known that it would be difficult to evacuate the people living on the ridge (probably over 60,000 people). There are primarily only three exits. Pentz and Clark roads exit to the south (Within Paradise, Clark is four lanes for a few miles, I’m not sure about Pentz.). But both become only two lane mountain roads as you exit the small city. (I believe that the fire approached Paradise from the East and the South.). The Skyway is the primary access, which extends northwest through Paradise, Magalia and Paradise Pines. Magalia and Paradise Pines is almost entirely “bedroom community,” with single-family housing, predominantly double wide mobile homes. You have multiple “subdivisions” with hundreds of houses each, and only two or three exits onto the Skyway (bottlenecks). Exiting this area, the Skyway is two-lane until you’re well into Paradise (Billie Road). The Skyway , then, becomes four lanes, with stoplights for the next 3 miles where it turns west toward Chico, (continuing four lanes) approximately 7 miles away. All of the East/ West roads in Paradise, drain into the Skyway, or cross Clark and Pentz roads. (All bottlenecks).
      The governments “plan,” was to systematically evacuate the population one section at a time, to prevent bottlenecks. “THERE WAS NO TIME!”
      Back in the late 70s and early 80s, when I lived there, it was known as primarily a retirement area. (many elderly) In the mid-1980s, they started developing Magalia and Paradise Pines with Affordable housing, and the area became a bedroom community for Chico.
      Any wonder about the results,, including missing persons?

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      • oldschool64 says:


        Thanks for your description of the layout. I describe my aunt’s escape from Paradise last week further down thread. My understanding is it took them 2 hours to go 6 miles in bumper to bumper traffic. Flames on both sides of the road. Sorry, but I don’t know which road she was on.

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        • John says:

          Hi …school.
          The average adult walking speed is 3 – 5 mph.
          I participated in the Oroville Dam evacuation, while living south of the Paradise Ridge.. I had no problems exiting my street onto a 2 Lane Hwy, and was able to travel 55 miles an hour for approximately 1/2 mile. Then I hit gridlock. It took me 1 1/2 hours to travel four miles to higher ground. I had friends that spent over six hours on a 4 Lane Hwy. before they reached safety.

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      • Uncle Max says:

        Hey John, Anthony Watts, from Watts up with that blog lives in Chico and put up a post a couple days ago pondering if 2014 land reductions in Paradise ( on Skyway ) may have aggravated evacuation. ( High curbs, etc ) He moved to Chico because living in Paradise concerned him. It was a good write up, like yours… explaining just how dangerous this area was, that it was a known concern and just never really addressed.

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        • John says:

          Hi Uncle.
          One and one half years ago, I looked at a few houses in the Paradise area for retirement. There were some great deals, but I wanted some place where I could garden. Very few places received any direct sunlight. Many you could have a very small garden in your front yard next to the road. In Paradise You need special permission to even cut down any tree, dead or alive. Some of these homes had mold on the sidewalks, driveways and on the lower aspects of outside walls. This was during the beginning of the summer, and at least a month from the last rain. Sunshine, just doesn’t reach the ground. The tree canopy Was just too Thick.

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        • Michael K says:

          That Watts Up article is very important. Here is a view of what was done. The city decided to create more parking for downtown businesses by taking two lanes from the highway to create perpendicular parking instead of parallel parking. Some small cities call this “Traffic Calming” like my city in Orange County. This contributed to the traffic jam during attempted evacuation. This is insane in such a setting where there was a history of fires forcing evacuation.


    • InAz says:

      The animals also never had a chance.

      Both wild and domestic.

      This is Communism at work.

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      • Steven says:

        It isn’t communism nor is it socialism. Democrats believe in Feudalism. The wealthy elites are the Lords and the government officials are the clergy. They rule hand and hand together. They also have dependent serfs (illegal immigrants and people on welfare) who continue to support them. Loyalty is demanded within the Democratic Feudal society and if you fail to comply and kiss the ring of your Lords you will be tossed aside.

        Communism does not exist in California.

        Socialism only applies to the peasants and serfs. It is a relatively cheap tool to keep the masses dumb, sedated, hopeless, and distracted. Free phones, free internet, and free food = people not rioting against the ruling class. They learned from the French Revolution.

        And remember, California has no problem bankrupting itself but the individuals running it are all multi-millionaires with incredible pensions who will not go bankrupt.

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  3. CornPicker says:

    Elections have consequences

    Liked by 3 people

    • olderwiser21 says:

      Corn – well, with Newsome as their new governor, I would say CA is screwed……….

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    • Steven says:

      Yeah and sadly this is only going to get far far worse. I also believe Democrats will pick up additional voters from the fires. They are really good at propaganda and people honestly believe that these fires are the results of evil climate change denying Republicans.

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  4. Minnie says:

    Prayer for the Dead By Saint Ignatius of Antioch

    Receive in tranquility and peace, O Lord, the souls of your servants who have departed this present life to come to you.

    Grant them rest and place them in the habitations of light, the abodes of blessed spirits.

    Give them the life that will not age, good things that will not pass away, delights that have no end.

    Through Jesus Christ our Lord.


    Eternal rest grant unto them, O Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon them.

May the souls of all the faithful departed, through the mercy of God, rest in peace.


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  5. I can’t wrap my head around this tragedy. So many innocent and elderly victims. All because of nature worship by socialists.

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  6. TestName7 says:

    It’s the perfect image and message. I will copy it if I may.

    We all lose when a human leaves us. Few lose more than many who might have missed out on a passing smile or helping hand, while some will never be held, called, or seen the same way again. Not from those who are lost. Everyday these losses accumulate in every city and town. These things are irreplaceable. While we morn those lost to violence and pray for its end, it is unavoidable to not sense the suffering that these souls must have endured.

    So we wish them a special wind. A wind to calm the screams.
    They deserve it Lord. Please carry those you have taken home softly to rest and please deliver those lost safely to their home.

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  7. Gunner says:

    Our Heavenly Father — those that have been lost, welcome them to your paradise. Hold their families in your arms and comfort them. Lead and guide those searching for the missing to a hopeful outcome. Bless and keep all your children who’ve been impacted by this tragedy, and carry them with your grace. Thank you for all your servants who unselfishly give of themselves to help, and please continue to protect and guide them.

    I pray you’ll give us the wisdom, guidance and strength to stay strong in our faith. I humbly pray this all in the name of my savior, Jesus Christ.

    Amen and Amen.

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  8. Heroic Dreamer says:

    There, but for fortune. My prayers go out to their friends and loved ones.

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  9. Landslide says:

    Lots of blame to be meted out, but if one of those people who persished were my loved one, I would just want prayer, love, and support. The grief must be unimaginable. Dear God, hold these people in your loving care and give them supernatural strength and peace. Bring them people that can help them rebuild their lives and serve them well. Amen.

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    • MTeresa says:

      Amen. Lots of grief to go around.

      Pray too for those survivors who didn’t have much to begin with and have lost every physical thing they own. Even when it’s time to rebuild, they won’t be able to.

      My heart is absolutely breaking tonight.

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    • piper567 says:

      The loss of older relatives in this horror might motivate us to reassess the living conditions and preparations these oldsters might/might not have in place.
      Maybe a network among them…relationships need to be cultivated and established.
      I cannot imagine the heartbreak of knowing an older, vulnerable relative was unable to escape this inferno.
      I am Not Diminishing the value of any lost life.
      My Mother is 94 yrs old, and I sorta reflected on this carnage from the point of view of her living situation.
      Just horrible to contemplate.
      Lots of prayer for those left behind.
      Just devastating.

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      • olderwiser21 says:

        Good thoughts, Piper – I thought the same thing. I think we forget that older relatives are among the most vulnerable in emergency situations, plus, many of them never ask for help and try to hold on to their independence. It is the perfect storm for this type of situation. Better preparation and communication is essential for these loved ones.

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      • Heartbreaking beyond belief to read the names and ages of the missing. Several in their 90’s, some 100+, several sound like married couples, some perhaps with an adult child living with them. Entire families. Somebodies parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles. I’m thousands of miles on the other side of the country and my heart hurts for these people. God have mercy!!

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  10. Neural says:

    To the glory of God Almighty, Gerry Brown and all his zealot environmentalist fanatic friends will suffer the same fate as these people.
    Over and over and over

    For eternity.

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  11. joeknuckles says:

    It looks like the actions of enviro-fascists may have resulted in the incineration of over 500 Americans. Decent people call this an unspeakable tragedy. The true fascists (hardcore leftists) call it a “start”. There will be many, many more deaths if we don’t get serious about stopping these people fast. There will be another holocaust.

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  12. mikebrezzze says:

    Good grief, 9700 homes destroyed!

    Liked by 6 people

  13. bessie2003 says:

    It’s just so overwhelming.

    Thank you for the Butte County link.

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  14. MTeresa says:

    My God………….look at that list of PEOPLE. Living breathing people……..gone.

    I want to pray tonight but I’m PISSED.

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    • mdaush says:

      Me too. this just isn’t a big forest fire or wildfire. It is too big, in too many places. Too many things don’t make sense…trees with their leaves in a neighborhood where all the houses are ashes….cars with melting hubcaps between cars that didn’t burn at all. something isn’t right.

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      • Suzanne says:

        The conspiracy theorists are currently putting forth the idea that these homes were intentionally ignited by means of the “smart” meters.


        • TrumpFanFLA says:

          “Conspiracy Theorists” was a term concocted by the enemy DeepState after 9/11 to cause “STOP THINK” in the clueless masses. Why use the enemies’ propagandists’ lingo to insult intelligent people who have actually done their homework re EMFs, SmartMeters, etc.?

          SmartMeters are pieces of cheap plastic crap with NO SURGE PROTECTORS on the backs of them as the prior Analog Meters (made of METAL & Fire-resistant GLASS) always had.

          Power Surges can cause them to explode; the Utility cutting power to them can cause arcing (sparks) & house fires.

          When a SmartMeter causes a house fire, the utility notices it first at their end & sends their goons to “quickly remove the evidence” from the house (the SmartMeter), & Fire Chiefs have complained of this.

          If Paradise (f/k/a “Poverty Gulch” per a comment at a prior CTH article) had seniors/vets/elderly who could not pay their utility bills, it’s possible the utility cut their power, causing the meter to arc/spark. If the utility cut the power to MANY accounts/homes at the same time, then, yes, that could be a legit possibility as to origin of house fires.

          Older articles re SmartMeters exploding, causing fires, etc.:



          Also check youtube for many videos re SmartMeters & fires.

          Also can check SmartMeterNewsUpdates.wordpress.com which posts news re SmartMeters, EMFs, etc.

          Ditto the TakeBackYourPower.com site. Be sure to watch their 2013/updated 2017 documentary re the evil scam that is SmartMeters, much of it filmed in California & concerning PG&E!


      • Olpainless says:

        Saw it with my own eyes not three hours ago. Houses gone,but the plastic garbage cans untouched. Some were, just no rhyme or reason to it. Businesses I drove by every day unrecognizable, and next door not a mark on the building. The main Skyway road itself is clear now but you can see the scars where vehicles were torched. Our house was spared,thank God. Still no word on lifting the evac orders.

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    • Neural says:

      It is ok to pray in a rage.
      It is ok to yell at God and demand justice
      It is ok to demand of God that He bring down vengeance upon the wicked.
      Open up. Tell Him how you feel. Scream out loud at the sky if you feel you will be heard better.
      He can handle it, and He’s not going to strike you down for it.

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    • Pegm says:

      I pray that these people are alive and somewhere, and just don’t know they have been put on a “missing” list. I know two of those names, I pray they are safe and sound.

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  15. So heartbreaking……..

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  16. tuskyou says:

    “mostly elderly”
    Oh God, that hurts my heart… 💔

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  17. TestName7 says:

    I have not yet counted to 600.

    It will take me at least 5 more slow minutes. 5 minutes to spare for peace.

    the air now does smells like plastic.


  18. Gil says:

    And the Hill fire in Ventura is suspected arson.

    Fire authorities said they believe human activity to be the cause of the Hill Fire, and offered a $10,000 reward for information leading to those who may have been responsible.

    CAL FIRE said in a news release Friday that “investigators have been able to rule out all potential causes for the Hill Fire, other than human activity.”

    The Hill Fire, which firefighters say is now 100% contained, burned an estimated 4,531 acres.

    Investigators are reaching out to anyone who was in the area of Hill Canton Trail on Thursday, Nov. 8, from the hours of 10 a.m. to 3 p.m.

    A $10,000 reward is available for information leading investigators to a possible responsible party. Callers can remain anonymous.


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  19. LafnH20 says:


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  20. jello333 says:

    From what I’m hearing, this was a popular retirement area… and NOT for those with a ton of money. People just trying to find a nice, peaceful place to enjoy their lives after having worked hard to save just enough to retire on. Seemed to be a lot more middle-class and mobile/modular housing neighborhoods, than rich areas. It’s horrible when ANYONE has their dreams, even their lives, wiped away…. but it just hits me harder when it’s lower/middle-class people who were just trying to get by.

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    • Maria says:

      I figured this was coming. Paradise was essentially an old folks home pretending to be a town. The streets there really did roll up at night as most people had restricted drivers licenses that only allowed for limited daytime driving for essential needs.

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    • John says:

      Hello Jell-O.
      A “semi-joke,” about Paradise, in the late 70s and early 80s, was:

      “Be careful driving in paradise on the first of the month. All of the retirees will be On the roads in their golf carts, traveling to the bank and shopping.”

      In other words, it was pretty much a retirement community. In the early 1980s, they started developing Northeast, up the Skyway, the communities of Magalia and Paradise Pines. These were primarily affordable double wide and modular single-family housing, usually within a subdivision community with clubhouse, pool, and maybe even a golf course. Most shopping and services remained within Paradise. The “Ridge,” became an affordable bedroom community for Chico, primarily the “working class.” The “Ridge,” is also 15 to 20° cooler than Chico (100 – 115° in summer), and unlike Chico, gets some snow.

      Paradise is also “heavily churched,” with a large Seventh-day Adventist population. The only hospital on the ridge is run by the SDA’s. Chico is probably 50/50 conservative/liberal. (Chico State University has many students from the San Francisco Bay area.). Paradise, Oroville and most of the remaining Butte County, are predominantly conservative.

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  21. MaineCoon says:

    Truly unfathomable.

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  22. MaineCoon says:

    Brianna Sacks has been on the ground covering from day one. It’s encouraging to see organizing groups feeding the displaced people and firefighters.

    The @sexy_panda_truck really kicked this off. They got here Friday night and, on their own dime, immediately started cooking for hundred of people and are camping here, too. They now have a crew of volunteers and floods of donations are also cooking a fuck ton of food pic.twitter.com/pmLlVUuCmT— Brianna Sacks (@bri_sacks) November 17, 2018


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  23. MaineCoon says:

    .@WCKitchen has been spooning out meals to people. They were also @ the #woolseyfire. There are also many other volunteers pouring hot chocolate, coffee, and bbqing. Anyway, just a reminder that it’s not all doom and gloom here. Humans can be pretty 👌🏻❤️ https://t.co/LW6Xg2ZujB— Brianna Sacks (@bri_sacks) November 17, 2018


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  24. Doug says:

    This fire started upstream from Paradise which is heavily wooded and blew thru this town in a flash. This is so sad, many of these folks are elderly.
    My friend in Chico, just down the hill from Paradise said they have mobile military morgues on site.
    Just terrible,


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  25. Cooper45 says:

    This is a horror story that might be unequaled in American history. The horrible, frightening way these trapped people died should never happen on this scale in 2018 America. In my area, there are a limited number of causes of fires. Lightning in forested areas, human caused fires either through negligence (campfires, cigarettes) or deliberate arson or equipment failures like frayed extension cords or other causes of heat generated short circuits in a home.

    The last I heard, “officials” suspected 2 power failures in 2 of the fires but they never explained the details. Power failures are usually harmlessly triggered by tripped circuit breakers or blown Horn Gap fuses from falling trees or other causes of overloads etc. There was no mention of a large pole transformer exploding in either location.

    I think there is a strong possibility that arsonists are causing some of these fires at least and he/she/they know when the best time is to start a fire like wind conditions etc. No matter how dry trees and other vegetation are, spontaneous combustion does not ignite them. Has anybody heard anymore on the possible causes of these multiple fires?

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    • Neural says:

      The infrastructure in CA is abysmal. Gerry and crew spend all the money they get on making sure illegal immigrants get a free ride on the American taxpayer while probably pocketing a good 50% of the funds for themselves.
      That said, the one thing that stands out to me about this whole situation is the fires started right after the election.

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      • Cooper45 says:

        I suspected the infrastructure including the electrical grid was likely “abysmal” given the misguided political priorities in the state.


    • Deb says:

      When the forests are this poorly managed, they become tinder boxes. A few sparks is all it takes.

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  26. joeknuckles says:

    I just found out that my office manager’s mother lived in Paradise and her house burned down. Fortunately, she made it out and is being cared for by family members. Turns out, she was on her way to the hospital for scheduled surgery when it burned down and the town was evacuated. She later heard that her home was destroyed.

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  27. joeknuckles says:

    I just found out that my office manager’s mother lived in Paradise and her house burned down. Fortunately, she made it out and is being cared for by family members. Turns out, she was on her way to the hospital for scheduled surgery when it burned down and the town was evacuated. She later heard that her home was destroyed.


  28. redtreesquirrel says:

    California is an example for what the rest of the country would look like with Democrat leadership. When will tragedy finally strike those who need the lesson?!! Nancy Pelosi? Gov Moonbeam? Hollywood hyprocrites? I’m looking at you!

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  29. auscitizenmom says:

    This is almost too much to comprehend.

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    • Mist'ears Mom says:

      It really is too much to comprehend … how does one house burn and not another right next door? How do houses all burn and cars melt in driveways in a firestorm yet the trash cans on the curb are untouched? Why are all the streets and driveways clear of debris.
      How come trees remain untouched as houses are reduced to ash?
      It is unreal. This poor town and its residents have experienced an unbelievable tragedy. The looney tree huggers and lack of forest clearing wouldn’t result in this kind of destruction-it is other worldly or something else.

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      • Dee says:

        Probably much like a tornado, the one in Mi years ago left pickle jar on the counter with a spoon and no house. Lots of weird stuff like that.

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      • It is a chilling reminder of the wildfire that consumed a large portion of Gatlinburg TN almost exactly 2 years ago. While the death toll was much lower, I see the same freakish pattern of hit and miss. In some areas, all homes but 1 or 2 were devoured. Many of those people have not yet rebuilt.

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      • jrapdx says:

        But it always happens in every big disaster like a fire or hurricane, some trees or structures are left unscathed, miraculously saved from the devastation all around. There have been many major fires in the region around where I live in Oregon. Looking at the expanse of burnt-out husks of former great trees, invariably there are scattered individuals in the wreckage still green, at least partly so.

        Of course the grossly mismanaged forests in California burn hotter and more completely, there may be few if any sylvan survivors. Serious students of the subject tell us it’s Nature’s plan to spread low-level fire through our forests every several years that bigger trees can withstand but clears out excessive understory growth. All too obvious that defying Nature has a cost in human lives, property and resources.

        We’d think the elected leaders of the state should and will pay a price for their malfeasance. Human survivors will endure their losses and grief, but I suspect their resentment persists for a very long time, they won’t forget what happened and who fomented it. There will be electoral consequences for the moonbeams and fake green fanatics who nurtured the catastrophe we are witnessing.

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      • auscitizenmom says:

        Yep, the looney tree huggers and lack of forest clearing did result in this kind of destruction, whether it was lightning, electric lines, or manmade. It really irritates me that this was all discussed back in the 70’s. People were trying back then to stop this from happening.

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  30. Shasta Livin' says:

    Not only is poor forest management to blame but the bulk of this is on the big power company I NorCal, PG&E. They have been the cause of several huge wildfires over the years and the state government protects them because they donate tens of millions of dollars a year to political campaigns. They make a huge profit and have government approval to pass on lawsuit costs to their utility rate payers. If those S.O.B.s would put their political donations into caring for their transmission lines and equipment, fires like this probably wouldn’t happen.

    Get pissed at PG&E… they need to not be a publicly traded for profit company. They’re more concerned about providing a divided to their shareholders than they are worried about the safety of their rate payers.

    Their greed has killed these people. Sons of b……!

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  31. Deb says:

    Lord have mercy.

    May the souls of the faithful departed Rest In Peace.

    If the people in California don’t demand a change in policy after a tragedy of this magnitude, then we will know they have accepted their chains and are content to live under tyranny.

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  32. oldschool64 says:

    My aunt barely escaped Paradise with her life last week. Her description of her escape is as terrifying as anything I’ve heard on the news. She literally had just a few minutes to get out. Though she didn’t see her house catch fire, she’s convinced that there is no way it was not destroyed.

    But the most heart wrenching aspect of her escape was the situation involving her neighbor. She is an elderly lady whose grandchildren were visiting. My aunt tried to convince her to leave with her and her boyfriend but she refused. Her husband was out in the car so she would not leave. I am hoping they found a way out, but my aunt did not know what happened to them as of last weekend.

    Finally, my family got an early preview of how horrible this event truly was. My father mentioned to her that the death toll was at 5. My aunt told him “John, there are going to be hundreds”.

    When I heard this I thought no way. But my aunt Lori is one smart cookie. l should have known better.

    My family will be extremely grateful this Thanksgiving. What a terrible and sad holiday for so many others. Please keep them in your prayers.

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  33. 4EDouglas says:

    I stood out side the local grocery store-NE Oregon. this was about an hour ago.
    smoke from the fires filled the air some 450+ Nautical miles away I’m an old Aerial
    Firefighter. I have seen death and destruction. This whole thing is due to malfeasance, on the part of the State . I hope there is a thorough investigation.
    Do not let the California fire marshal kick the rubble around , look at the sky and say:
    “Clmate Change, because Trump!’ Brown really wants to do that…
    BTW that smoke has an odd, old smell to it like the aftermath of say the bombing of Dresden.. God help US..

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    • jrapdx says:

      The residue of the fires has even seeped into the air around Portland. We had a little rain overnight, but as it dries out in the next few days I’m sure we’ll get another dose of the smoke infiltrating into the western valleys. Yeah, climate change is the cause, sure it is, we all believe that now don’t we? We know better by far what the truth is, no one is really fooled by it, not even moonbeams themselves despite their “narratives” and propaganda.

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  34. sDee says:

    I pray for them. What have we done?

    I work to expose similar local urbanization policy agendas that flood many out of their homes by design. They are driven top down by FEMA regulatory and incrance policies modeled on UN agenda. As high density housing is approved, stormwater infrastructure is gradually abandoned. Our homes become nothing more than stormwater basins.

    It is ;Regulatory Taking’ similar to EPA. Insurance regulations are the tools. Climate change is the cover.

    Similar models are being used for wildfire and land management.

    The ruling class is pure evil. Our lives mean nothing to them. How much more will we take?

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  35. Del Parker says:

    Totally preventable. All that needed to be done was to clear fire lanes between acreages of forests, to prevent fires from spreading. The Enviro Wacks would not allow ANY cutting of timber.

    President Trump is correct. The problem is NOT caused by money, as the sale of timber to clear fire lanes pays for the program.

    This same problem of fires caused by Enviro Wacks happened a year ago in CA, and has happened in Australia.

    Enviros have one agenda and it has nothing to do w science or engineering or management.

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    • sDee says:

      Environmentalism is is just one tool of the globalists – our ruling class. The agenda here is urbanization. Subjects are easier to control once we are forced off our land and out of our cars into high density housing and public transit.

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      • sickconservative says:

        Not old but really true green on the outside but red on the inside.
        We have our Rino’s but they are watermelons.
        Call in Linus,

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      • Judith says:

        This is the goal of UN Agenda 21: Herding
        populations into “workforce housing” in urban centers with only mass transit, and letting nature reclaim the land.

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        • sDee says:

          Updated and unabated as Agenda 2030

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          • Judith says:

            Yes sDee, now it’s Agenda 2030. They consider President Trump and MAGA to be a speed bump on their highway to hell.

            “Oh, look! Fireworks!”


        • Bakokitty says:

          To be more truthful, how to move and control populations.

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        • Firestorm Apocalypse in California – YouTube ~ 11/15/18

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        • TrumpFanFLA says:

          Exactly correct everyone, & so glad people are awake to the UN goals of “Extreme Environmentalism.”

          They fear the herd (all of us) will use up earth’s natural resources, leaving none for them. Hence, their taking of the land & the wildernesses back for themselves, & wanting to stack up humans all cramped together in urban cubicles.

          It used to be called (& maybe still is) The Wildlands Project a/k/a the “Re-Wilding of America.”

          “The threat of environmental crisis will be the ‘international disaster key’ that will unlock the New World Order.”
          –Mikhail Gorbachev, quoted in “A Special Report: The Wildlands Project Unleashes Its War On Mankind,” by Marilyn Brannan, Associate Editor, Monetary & Economic Review, 1996, pg.5.

          “The United Nations plan to set aside over 50% of all of America for the express purpose of denying human beings access to any of this land.”
          –CuttingEdge.org – which has numerous “antique” articles (1990s-early 2000s) on these topics of running people off land & “resettling” them in “Cubicle Cities), Wilderness Project, Re-Wilding, Agenda 21/2030, Enviro Wackos (New Agers/House of Theosophy) worship of the creatures+creation rather than the Creator (Romans ch.1), etc.

          “The collective needs of non-human species must take precedence over the needs and desires of humans.”
          –Reed Noss, [former] Director of The Wildlands Project [1990s] as quoted in same report above, same pg.5.


      • Years of weather/climate engineering [Geoengineering], approved by former CIA swamp Dir. John Brennan on 7/5/16. Geoengineering was deployed for decades but denied and those who exposed it were coined conspiracy theorists. Non-stop spraying of mega tons of aluminum dried out California [80% of the United State’s produce ‘came’ from California]. Then came “Directed Energy Weapons” to start catastrophic fires which is fast-tracting Agenda 21 ~ United Nations “Global Governance” [control of weather, water, food, electricity, land and all resources] “Sustainability Agenda.” BIG bucks for Jerry Brown, Al Gore, and thousands of other Globalists. Since President Trump brought the U.S. out of the Paris Climate Accord, I believe stopping Geoengineering and other nefarious programs are on his radar. He needs continued prayer since Globalists detest him for shaking up their evil agenda and have tried more than once to literally get rid of him.
        I was born and raised in California and my family and friends still live there ~ it sickens me to see what’s happening and mainstream media doesn’t touch the truth of what’s happening … even when thousands are being incinerated and lives destroyed. For the love of God, push the truth to get these programs stopped.


        Global Tyranny William F Jasper ~ YouTube

        Global Tyranny … Step by Step

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        • Greg Dane says:

          This is the 500 lb gorilla in the room nobody wants to speak of or has the fortitude to bring out! Geo-engineering is real as are Directed Energy Weaponry – both of which have been used to start fires, create drought conditions, cause tsunamis, and excessive rain. Look up the white paper published called “owning the weather in 2025” – it clearly discusses the use of weather for warfare – and it IS real! This person knows what they are saying and brings out a lot of good information – well worth reading


          • Judith says:

            HAARP top-secret weather program in Alaska. CA is their petri dish.

            Remember all the beached sealife washing up there? The big mystery? Sonar experiments.

            Now they can fry human brains instead. See college student Otto Warmbier in NK, Americans and diplomats inside Chinese and Cuban hotels.

            They will continue to exterminate mankind into a small, controlled slave population.

            Prove me wrong. Please.


        • Firestorm Apocalypse in California – YouTube ~ 11/15/18


    • Pegm says:

      That would help, but burning embers can be blown a mile or more. When we got back home after evacuation from the Mendocino Complex fire this last August, there were whole burned oak leaves laying around. The fire came within a mile, so those burning leaves carried on the winds.

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    • Casey’s Ghost says:

      Not sure about the “totally preventable” part Del. Although there are sound practices which can diminish the spread of a wildfire, sometimes the combination of freakish weather, topography, and plain old bad luck combine to create a “perfect storm” easily capable of defeating any prevention efforts. Mother Nature can be awesome in that way.

      Case in point: Years ago I was a “paid call” firefighter for San Bernardino County in southern California. I was part of the initial attack on a wind driven fire In thinly fueled foothills, an environment not all that different than Paradise. I was manning a 1 1/2” hose defending a small structure in the path of flames perhaps a mile or so off. I watched an air tanker drop a full load to no effect. Next a dozer cut a line which the rapidly advancing flames easily defeated. Within minutes the fire was on us. Needless to say our fire hose had no effect. The lieutenant behind me said “let’s get out of here”, but I told him “too late”. The fire swept over and around us, partially scorching the structure (concrete block) and our engine. The fire sucked the oxygen out of the and it got hard to breathe. We survived I suppose by God’s grace and the help of a “water curtain” (turning the nozzle upright to create an umbrella like pattern of spray). The memory is vivid as it was probably one of the, if not the most terrifying event of my seventy one years.

      The conditions at Paradise must have been similar but many times magnified. I’ve read where flaming embers were pushed a mile or so ahead of the flames by the hellish wind. The rate of spread was something like one football field per second. No fire line can stop that. Don’t think there was much that could have been done to prevent this tragedy except not building a town in that place to begin with. Fire in the foothills of California is pretty much a foregone conclusion, it’s gonna happen sooner or later. It’s part of the natural cycle and most of the native flora and fauna have adapted to it. Best not to build your house your house there though, unless you accept the risk.

      My prayers go out to all the folks who were trapped in Paradise.


      • 4EDouglas says:

        ,Brother, I hear you. Good chance I was the co-pilot on that tanker if it was a
        Four Engine Douglas.. Only way to stop something like that is get way back,build line with retardant and ground crews and hope the wind quits..
        during that time I lived on the Oregon coast-shake roof country. I spent a good two months every spring spraying cutting and burning in prep for the summer.
        clearing understory was the big thing. The area was infested with greenies. I couldn’t clear salal , holly or manzanita without someone complaining about it.
        One day a neighbor came up and started laying on me about the noise and
        unnecessary cutting. I said “Fritz- either i make a little noise now -or
        I make a bigger noise with the DC-7 and 3000 gallons of thick gooey fire retardant…” I was bsed in Medford about 150 air miles from there…


  36. sDee says:

    After what was at best a fight against the tides, only one light emerged:

    If the depth of this evil and corruption is not exposed by this man, I fear it never will be and freedom dies.

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  37. sundance says:

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  38. Steven says:

    Things are about to get far worse than you could ever imagine for California and ultimately the country. On one hand, I am happy that my local Republican state reps were able to get SOME logging reform done via SB901 which was just signed into law. Private land owners can finally log on their properties (first time in nearly 50 years!) and brush removal in fire zones is going to be better funded. It is nowhere near the solution needed but it is a small win for those of us in ruby red rural California.

    HOWEVER, the price of SB901 is going to be the monetization of human tragedy. In California, we have a public bank called California Infrastructure Development Bank (IBANK) which is located in Sacramento. It generally issues state bonds for various projects. SB901 just authorized the bank to allow Power Gas & Electric (PG&E) to take out “rate reduction bonds” to close the gap of expected losses for PG&E that cannot be made up except by raising rates to astronomical levels. In turn, PG&E can continue to operate, update, and maintain their infrastructure. Please keep in mind that for 12 million of us, there is only one power company to choose from and that is PG&E (they basically have a monopoly).

    Likewise, SB901 authorizes California to issue “recovery bonds” to PG&E to pay for all of the loss of human life, leveling of cities, etc. What this means is that the state of California is going to MAKE MONEY from allowing forest fires to get out of control because of PG&E’s negligence in maintaining their infrastructure and California’s negligence in poor forestry management. The federal government will then offset the more extreme losses via FEMA. The interest of the state is to actually allow the fires to cause more damage, since they will make money from interest on the bonds and keep union workers (emergency personnel, construction, etc.) fully employed. Remember, there is 0 political consequence for these fires- Democrats will not lose a single seat and they will maintain their super majorities. And honestly, people in the urban centers of California could care less about these fires or the people who are dying.

    The worst part is that this behavior is coming to a RED state near you. Californian transplants are decimating RED states and we can’t stop it. You move to the Bay Area or LA to make it big- make $300K+ per year as a family while selling out your countrymen and then move to Tuscon, Arizona, Houston, Texas, or Boise, Idaho and live like a god while instituting far left progressive policies. California is a feudal society and it will be replicated where you live.

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    • WSB says:

      You nailed it, Steven.

      It is becoming disturbingly clear that we, as a country, are undergoing a sinister transformation under our noses on so many levels.

      After the debacle at the Red Hen in Lexington, VA, Stephanie Wilkinson’s full on participation in this transformation was uncovered. Probably the reason she was forced to resign from Main Street Lexington.

      It did not take much research to find out about Wilkinson’s other endeavors. Wittingly or unwittingly, the author of this piece by Heavy.com makes the seemingly uncanny connections.

      This report ties in Wilkinson’s co-founder of the Red Hen, John Blackburn who is an environmental activist, Wilkinson’s now resigned position as Executive Director of Main Street Lexington, and her ownership of House Mountain Yarn Company.


      All seem disconnected, however when we learn that Wilkson planted herself in Lexington in 1995, originally from New York, via Dartmouth and San Fransisco, we have a truer picture.

      Main Street Lexington is a member of Mainstreet.org, a collaborative effort between the CoC, National Historic Trust and other community organizing 501C3’s.


      Here is the US map of members

      And here is the map of my area. Looks like this part of the map ‘needs filling’, no?

      Ironically, we have a new yarn store in town, opened by a female Princeton PhD. recipient from NYC. We also have another ‘knitting store’ being newly built in a small village south of mine by a very wealthy family. As my 86 year old neighbor exclaimed, “No one knits anymore. Why the heck are they spending all that money on a knitting store?”

      It seems mainstreet.org and the yarn stores give cover and provide operation points for leftwing community engineering. Manned mostly by activist women, they start to re-engineer entire towns and small cities by using the CoC and town boards to implement their causes. Notice how slick the websites are.

      “It’s also these knitting stores; what we noticed is that a lot of these knitting stores across the country work as these really beautiful little community hubs, and so in thinking about these hubs and these really wonderful spaces where it’s predominantly women, these are already active participants. The project is creating real connections with people, physical connections, not just virtual ones.”


      Which brings us back to people like John Blackburn, environmental activist. Spreading the Marxist fist from urban areas to the suburbs…by literally pulling the wool over our eyes.


  39. maiingankwe says:

    To lose so many of our Elders at one time is more than heartbreaking, it’s heart wrenching as well. All of their knowledge is now gone. Forever. All of their personal experiences will never be spoken from their lips gain.

    I cannot imagine dying this way, being burned alive. I know this part doesn’t sound good, but I hope the smoke got to them before the fire. I’ve been told it is easier to go this way.

    You know, I do remember one thing I’ve been taught, and that is we never ever die alone. Our Angels are there to help us, especially in terrible times such as this. I pray the Angels put them to sleep or surrounded their bodies in protection, so their souls could leave before burning.

    I will be joining many of you in prayer tonight and tomorrow or the next I will be screaming for Justice. No one deserved to die like this, especially our Elders. I am so sorry to all of the family and friends who have lost their loved ones. God Bless you and protect you through your sorrow and pain. I am ever so sorry.

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  40. SPMI says:

    What is really important is who started this abomination.
    It is well known that most big fires in CA are deliberately set.
    Pyromaniacs are the ones that do it.
    Where is the report???
    This ain’t no campfire people.
    We must know what really happened.

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  41. 4EDouglas says:

    Wattsupwiththat? :
    Very revealing information here: https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/11/17/fact-checking-the-ny-times-fact-checking/
    Anthony Watts lives in the paradise area . One fact: the last 21 major fires in California?
    17 were caused by the Power Company. Moonbeam vetoed a bill passed unanimously
    to bury powerlines- but they can’t clear the right of way either…


  42. I really hate to mention this, but is appears that poor folks never even had time to get into their cars. I mean, we’re not seeing any burned up traffic jams.


  43. Doug says:

    I’m feeling a sense of dread, similar to that which I had in the hours/days post 9/11 when we had no idea how many people had died in the towers collapse. It’s just horrible.


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