President Trump Delivers a Message on Hurricane Michael Recovery…

Media reporting has only scratched the surface on the devastation. Collaborative FEMA and National Guard assessments are ongoing. Pray for the missing; there are hundreds missing.

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57 Responses to President Trump Delivers a Message on Hurricane Michael Recovery…

  1. Pam says:

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  2. I see wood everywhere.
    Can’t build with wood in a hurricane zone.
    Build hurricane proof buildings and infrastructure.
    The fed government has to help with incentives.
    Apart from the human drama this costs too much in the long run.

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    • David C. Parker says:

      I have lived at the FL Coast my whole life. I understand your frustration, but Hurricane Proof Infrastructure is just not possible. It is cost prohibitive. Michael appears to have taken out about 100 miles of coastal area. Florida has a total coastline of over 1350 miles. You don’t have any clue as to where the next hurricane will make landfall. Years ago, a company built a “Demonstrator” Hurricane Proof building just north of Tallahassee for marketing. It is still there and I don’t think they ever sold any of them. Construction costs were just too high. It wasn’t even close. They were many orders of magnitude too high.
      DCP

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      • Yeah I get that. Most people will not be able to afford it and with the weather building “light” is convenient.
        And actual chances to get hit by a devastating one are low.

        That said.. the accumulated cost over time for FL and the whole country must be bigger than the cost to make it all “bullet proof”.
        Something has to happen besides rinse-repeat, right?

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        • Peoria Jones says:

          The cost we all pay to find the missing humans is a problem as well. The other night, there was a group of posters defending the right NOT to leave with a mandatory evacuation, because some guys wanted to stay with their boats. I get the rugged individualism and Old Florida spirit – I do – but these people are costing the rest of us.

          It’s not like a tornado, where there’s a strike with no warning. Hurricanes provide plenty of time to get to safety. If you are lucky enough to live on/near the beach and haven’t made a plan for leaving in the event of a major hurricane, there’s going to be a little less sympathy and patience in these situations.

          Entitlement comes in many forms, and people often do not see how their own personal life choices impact and cost others.

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        • David C. Parker says:

          Again, I understand your frustration and I don’t want to monopolize the thread, but I really need to make you aware of some bitter truths.

          No, not really. Mexico Beach was incorporated in 1967, but people have lived there for well over 100 – 150 years. It has sustained hurricane damage before, but nothing like this. So a town of 1100 people in 563 households went 100 – 150+ years before a hurricane dropped the big one. The whole city (<1900 Residential Structures, lots of rentals) will be rebuilt better than before. I am sorry, but you just can't afford Hurricane Proof Construction for the entire coast, all 1350 miles. I don't remember the exact numbers, but I think that the "Hurricane Proof Building" that was built in Tallahassee a couple decades ago cost 15-25 times more per square foot than construction that met the then Building Code. It simply can't be done. No way. You just can't. We don't build "Light". We are actually more concerned with R Value than most other places. In our case, it's because of A/C costs. I have a 3br/2.5ba house in Tallahassee and my summer cooling bill is routinely 2-3 times my winter heating bill down there. We build strong, tight houses. The Building Codes on the FL Coast are MUCH tougher than most anywhere else. I live in Tallahassee, but I also have a house in NC that I built in 2001. I was the GC, and was ASTONISHED at how lax, comparably, the NC Building Code was compared to the house I built in Tallahassee in 1991. No comparison. But buildings built according to even the latest code will NOT survive a 20 ft+ storm surge.

          I don't remember the name of the hurricane, but the last one that hit Panama City Beach (before Michael), had a storm surge that hit a row of beachfront motels. These were not high rise units, they were one or two stories. The winds took the roofs off and the water came in through the glass sliding doors that faced the beach.

          When the surge withdrew, it took EVERYTHING with it. Glass and wooden doors, windows, furniture, appliances, everything. It even took the indoor/outdoor carpet that was glued down to the concrete floors. All that was left was a three sided concrete box, 1 or 2 stories tall with no roof. It looked like Berlin, circa 1945.

          If you want to live at the coast, you just have to accept certain truths.

          I grew up in Pensacola, five minutes by bicycle from the Bay. My Uncle lived out on Pensacola Beach, a barrier island. He lived less than 60 ft from and less than 4 ft above the high tide line. He always had an old beater P/U truck and a trailer and his wife had a fairly new Buick or Oldsmobile with a big trailer hitch. They kept a notebook that listed everything they owned that the insurance company couldn’t replace – pictures, antiques, documents, jewelry, etc.

          They could load that stuff into their trailer, hook it up to her car and be headed inland in an hour or less. They had to cross two bridges to get to the mainland so they didn’t wait till the last minute.

          He always said that you had to take the good with the bad in living at the coast. The bad was that roughly once or twice a generation there was going to be a better than even chance that your house was going to be floating in the Gulf. The good was that you got to live in just about the most beautiful spot, ever.

          You pays your money and takes your chances.
          DCP

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    • SharonKinDC says:

      So FL had the population density, prime real estate, and money to implement stronger building codes. Until the past decade or so, the panhandle area was filled with old, one story pre-hurricane code wooden framed beach structures. Buildings constructed in the past decade or so, appear to be the ones which survived w/ much more limited damage. While still sparsely populated compared to So FL, I suspect after this wipe out of Mexico Beach and other areas, new codes will be implemented. The problem arises re rebuilding- if they have to be build to new codes, what will be covered by insurance? Could be a good number of people, particularly the elderly, who will not be able to afford the difference between the payout and new building standards. Not sure on this last bit, but it is something I’ve been pondering.

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      • David C. Parker says:

        Yes, a lot of them will be “priced out”. They will not be able to re-build and will just have to sell their lot and move farther inland. I hate it, be there it is.
        DCP

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      • lemmus1 says:

        …can’t speak for all but the FHA insured mortgage on my FL home requires an insurance policy covering full replacement costs under current building codes …my home was built in ’63 and the minimum I can insure it for today is more than 5x its current appraised value …and the deductibles are severely limited …I would be able to rebuild without a severe hit to my wallet …assuming of course that the insurer didn’t go bankrupt first

        …which is likely to be a coming story in the next weeks …this was a major hit on the insurance companies …while the coastal areas are heavily insured, this ‘cane did severe damage a long, long way inland where such coverage is either not mandated or was not adequately risk assessed in insurance plans …I think a lot of insurers are going to go into bankruptcy as a result and leave many short …that happened after Andrew leveled the area south of Miami and the state had to step in …Florida may be able to swallow the financial bailout but I’m not sure Georgia will …and they were hit very, very hard

        …beyond that, the midterm elections are vulnerable as a result …the panhandle is heavy Trump country and tends to balance out the ultra-liberal vote in SE FL …but I don’t see any way they are going to get the area back to normal in the next few weeks …that could affect the very competitive Scott/Nelson Senate race to Scott’s detriment, a seat we have a real chance of picking up …expect to start seeing Dems blasting Scott/Trump recovery efforts here from every MSM outlet …it could hit the Governors contest as well since the Dem is the current Tallahassee mayor and the media will play him as a hero

        …and then there is the death toll …its almost certainly going to be much higher than currently reported and the MSM will do another Puerto Rico type hit on Trump/Scott

        …this could make the Katrina political fallout look like child’s play …we all saw what they did with Kavanaugh …imagine what they will try to make of this

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        • olderwiser21 says:

          Sheesh, Lemm – that’s discouraging……

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        • Dennis Leonard says:

          Sir,I tend to disagree with you .We are looking at a small segment of the FL panhandle.They can get the structure into the area for people to vote .I believe there was some early and mail in voting already going on.So lets not throw are arms up in the air ,yelling all is lost.

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    • Ono says:

      In Mexico and centro everyone builds with cement block rebar enforced and concrete filled cells.

      It is not that expensive. Concrete is made of sand, aggregate (small stone or gravel )and Portland cement. No shortage of sand and aggreiate on the coast zones..Not architecturally attractive , but functional.

      Save a tree, save a family, build strong not Home improvement channel.

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      • JAS says:

        This… In the Caribbean even poor people build homes with poured concrete exterior walls. Houses have massive poured concrete foundations in stress points. The roof trusses are then captured into the pour. The roofs will not come off. This type of construction is not expensive.

        Houses built with poured concrete are bunkers.

        Building with wood is a lot cheaper, and here in Florida, contractors make a KILLING out of building with wood and charging for concrete. They could use concrete but they would not make as big of a killing. Concrete construction is also less labor intensive.

        All this said, if you build on the beach all bets are off because of the surge. Wind and water are completely different. Water does not compress!!

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        • Ono says:

          Wind and water are basically the same …except water weighs 200 times more than air. That is why a 100mph wind driven wave is unstoppable.

          I eas on Isla Mujeres (Mexico) after a hurricane. The surge washed over whole parts of the Island. Doors and windows were blown out but the roofs and walls were undamaged. Many structures have carport parking under the dwelling so flooding is minimized.

          An added feature with block (my house is adobe) is that it doesn’t burn and is an incredible insulator; cool in the heat of summer and warm in the cold of winter.

          The lumber industry has major lobbyists in the construction sector. In Ca. the Uniform building code is the size of three phone books and every year it gets bigger.

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  3. Stringy theory says:

    Truly one of thr greatest catastrophes to ever hit this country. May God please help all those in distress tonight and their numbers are legion.

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  4. Such devastation…….it’s overwhelming and so heart breaking…….praying for everyone including the missing. This is why when they tell you to leave, you leave!

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  5. piper567 says:

    That fourth picture sundance has posted? nearly impossible to grasp.
    I kept thinking ab sundance’s essay on dealing with the aftermath…and I wondered ab what these four men were thinking…what was going through their minds.
    May God be with them as they sort through this devastation.
    And God bless responders, utility workers, and charitable organizations as they attempt to assist these good folks.

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  6. david says:

    Irecognize this destruction. Isurvived Andrew.

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  7. jmclever says:

    Obviously, Trump administration handles hurricane response beautifully. Probably using money from Chinese tariffs to fund recovery efforts. That’s why MSM is so busy hyperventilating over Kanye West in the Oval Office.

    I’m grateful for My President, Donald J Trump!

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  8. Dee says:

    Wow, just wow. Love that area I guess the old Fl charm will now be gone forever as new development comes in after the clean up.

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  9. Grandma Covfefe says:

    Hopefully, most of the missing, left quickly without notifying anyone as soon as they realized they hurricane gained strength unexpectedly….I pray…..this is too awful…..American’s heart is with you all affected by Hurricane/storm Michael.

    How do they determine who is missing?

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  10. nimrodman says:

    There was this nice story. Haven’t read all the hurricane threads so don’t know if it’s been posted, but hey, it’s a nice story.

    ‘Hurricane Cowboy’ Rounding Up Stranded Livetock in Michael’s Wake

    https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/10/11/hurricane-cowboy-rounding-up-stranded-stock-in-michaels-wake/

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  11. ruralnc6 says:

    Yesterday, before Hurricane Michael hit my area, I stayed on TCTH all day reading Treepers’ comments and looking at posted videos and articles. During its hit, which fortunately for me but unfortunately for many in my Triad NC, I had little damage. Yesterday Sundance, our Treepers, our President, Jim Brown, Sam of Sam and Dave, Mike Love, and Kayne kept me calm and focused. I thank all of you for your help from afar. This morning when I arose, I felt like the Wedding Guest at the end of THE RIME OF THE ANCIENT MARINER (with editing): “A sadder but a wiser woman/she rose the morrow morn.” I’m so deeply sorry for all affected from this event. I learned many lessons yesterday, which I deeply appreciate. THANK YOU!

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  12. Will says:

    Terribly sad. One can only hope many of the missing are eventually located once power and cell phone connectivity is restored.

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  13. fleporeblog says:

    My brother-in-Law who works for JEA (Jacksonville Electric Authority) is in Tallahassee helping to bring back power to that area. He and others are staying in a hotel when not working. They are working 12 hour days. He will be there for a while.

    It is so wonderful to see in times of need how Americans are willing to do whatever is necessary for their fellow citizens. I am really proud of him and others like him.

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    • Cow wow says:

      God bless him and them all.

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    • Janie M. says:

      fle, posting late here because I wanted to reach you. Anyway, I will be posting a YT video over at tomorrow’s 10/13, Presidential thread I wanted to bring to your attention since you have a far greater comprehension of trade than I do.

      Greg Hunter interviewing Alex Newman (New American Magazine). Newman says provisions of the USMCA are based in CFR (globalist) positions. He also says Robert Lighthizer is a CFR member.

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  14. Texian says:

    My thoughts have been on the missing.. I checked the ocean currents..

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  15. JoD says:

    I’m still trying to figure out why the majority of the MSM lost interest in Michael. It took less than 24 hours after landfall for them to start avoiding the subject. Hence, the abnormal obsession with Kashoggi.
    Why the concern for one Saudi journalist (IMO, a set-up) over the thousands of Americans who have been crushed?
    I’ll get back to you when I find the hook.

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    • vicschick says:

      I told my husband the same thing today. Something is seriously fishy about the whole Kashoggi thing.

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    • weareallbreitbart says:

      Well, obviously POTUS and FEMA, and Gov Scott, and local good old boys, ie the Deplorables, are getting r done whi!e the LSM cant even get their stories straight – see Drudge links to NYT quoting a confused elder who is wondering where the help is while the AP on Yahoo is reporting FEMA is set up and help rolling in.

      Time to go with the B-roll on PMS-NBC conspiracy theory on some sh1thole Muslim strongman run state to blame Trump on.

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    • Sadie Slays says:

      The areas affected overwhelmingly supported Trump. The hateful Left and media don’t want them getting Red Cross donations or even people’s prayers. Somehow I doubt there will be any celebrity telethons for the survivors.

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  16. Sporty says:

    Are there really hundreds missing? That is the first time I heard that. How horrible.

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    • Texian says:

      When it became a cat 4 I feared such a number in the back of my mind and just tried to repress it.. I say with a heavy heart in the aftermath, Michael may surpass Camille in the KIA category.. I had warned of a Michael/Camille comparison early on..

      They both were birthed in the same general Gulf/Caribe area.. And Michael had nothing in the atmosphere to stop him.. And knew he was going to move fast.. The atmospheric ingredients were all aligned..

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    • SharonKinDC says:

      Heard on the news somewhere appx 268 in Mexico Beach alone refused to leave. Some were in newer mid rise buildings, such as that hotel from which ppl recorded destroyed wooden frame buildings floating away. However, I suspect a good chunk of the 268 were sticking it out in dwellings which were swept away or severely damaged.

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  17. Curry Worsham says:

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  18. Has anyone seen an updated post from Alligator Gar? He was weighing options before the storm regarding his livestock and trying to persuade an elderly parent to leave.

    I have said several prayers for his situation and hope his family is alright

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    • Alligator Gar says:

      Hey, Volgarian! I couldn’t get dad to leave, so we rode it out. Power is still out and I am on generator and 4G to get updates. Last 2 days–sawing and raking and burning. Tree took out lots of power poles and my own distribution line on my property. It was worse in Wakulla than Cat 1 Hermine 2 years ago. Thanks for all concern and thoughts. All made it through in my neighborhood, God is good all the time.

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  19. ruralnc6 says:

    Sundance, Yes, I will pray as you requested for the hundreds of our brothers and sisters that are missing. Although we don’t know them today, we will one future day. I express my love for them tonight and will trust Jesus in the outcome from our prayers.

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  20. TigerBear says:

    Hurricane Andrew category 5 Homestead Florida devastation. (this one took out some of our family in it) Sadly, we’ve been here before, and our family will once again pick up the pieces and begin again.

    God Bless America
    Praying for All 😇

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