Wednesday August 29th – Open Thread

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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194 Responses to Wednesday August 29th – Open Thread

  1. Deplorable_Infidel says:

    Cause and Effect

    Recently I saw a cartoon that featured a father and his son gazing at a broken lamp. In the caption, the father said to his son, “What do you mean it just happened? Didn’t we discuss the laws of cause and effect?”
    That got me to thinking about the difference between law and grace when it comes to cause and effect. Under the law, the Jews were told,
    “Ye shall walk in all the ways which the Lord your God hath commanded you, that ye may live…” (Deut. 5:33).
    This was the law in a nutshell. Under the law, God said, “keep My statutes, and My judgments: which if a man do, he shall live” (Lev. 18:5). We know that He meant they would live eternally if they kept His statutes, because when the Lord was asked what to do to inherit eternal life, He quoted Leviticus 18:5 (Luke 10:25,28). You see, under the law, men were saved by faith plus works, the specific works of observing the statutes and judgments of the law. That included being circumcised, keeping the Leviticus 23 feasts, bringing animal sacrifices, and so forth.
    But while the law said “walk…that ye may live” (Deut. 5:33), grace presents a different cause and effect, as we can see from the words of Paul, the apostle of grace:
    “If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit” (Gal. 5:25).
    See the difference? Under the law, walking in God’s statutes caused the effect of eternal life, but under grace, the eternal life that we are given by faith without works (Eph. 2:8,9) should cause the effect of walking in God’s ways!
    So how about it? Are you walking in the Spirit? Can it be said of you what Paul said to the Thessalonians?
    “For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the Word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe” (I Thes. 2:13).
    The words of men can come and go without having any effect in your life, but if you truly believe God when He says you have eternal life in the Spirit, why not determine to walk in the Spirit? You’ll be eternally glad you did.

    By Pastor Ricky Kurth

    https://www.bereanbiblesociety.org/cause-and-effect/

    Deuteronomy 5:33 Ye shall walk in all the ways which the LORD your God hath commanded you, that ye may live, and that it may be well with you, and that ye may prolong your days in the land which ye shall possess.

    Galatians 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

    Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

    1Thessalonians 2:13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

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    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      “…why not determine to walk in the Spirit? You’ll be eternally glad you did.”

      The Word of God can only transform us if we read it (1 Thess. 2:13). If you read 3 chapters of Paul’s epistles each day than you can read through them once every 29 days.

      Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
      2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

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      • Jeff C-C says:

        I actually read 1 Thessalonians chapters 1-3 yesterday. I am looking for the fruit! (And so is my wife!). 🙂

        I did something interesting with it. I read it alongside (literally) 1 Corinthians chapters 1-7. The two letters parallel each other remarkably.

        It’s funny how the Holy Spirit works. I was longing to share this . . .and I got to!

        With Love to the Treehouse Community, Jeff

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        • Thanks for sharing this, it’s something I’ve never thought of doing. What were your favorite Holy Spirit quickened truths from this devotional time? Whenever my husband & I study the Bible together (which happens too infrequently) it builds us up individually & as a couple. What a special blessing for you & your wife to share!

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        • Deplorable_Infidel says:

          Praise the LORD, Jeff.
          Keep up the reading!
          Michael

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  2. citizen817 says:

    AN AMAZING VIEW OF THE GRAND CANYON. (CREDITS TO MAHARAJ FOR THIS AMAZING PICTURE!

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  3. citizen817 says:

    THE GRAND CANYON’S NORTH RIM

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    • wheatietoo says:

      The North Rim is so different than the terrain of the South Canyon…strikingly different.

      Both are beautiful.
      But the North Rim looks more like the forested areas of the Rockies to the north, than the semi-arid areas across a lot of Arizona.

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      • Marian says:

        We drove about 45 minutes without seeing another car on our way to the north rim. I was looking straight down to the river and saw some tiny orange dots – helmets of rafters. Since they weren’t moving I figured they were pulled to the bank and getting that talk from the guide about the next rapids or fun part of the trip. In a few minutes they started moving again and I could hear their excited screams all the way up to the top of the canyon!

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  4. Jimmy Jack says:

    I know many here followed the Jessica Chambers story. There’s going to be a multi part documentary about her on cable. I’ll have to report back w the info. It’s the same channel as the current one on Bardstown. Can’t remember if it’s We or Own.

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  6. nwtex says:

    One of my very fav Conway skit. Scroll down –>

    Carol Burnett Show- No Frills Airline

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  7. https://apelbaum.wordpress.com/2018/03/17/the-mechanics-of-deception/

    This is an amazing article with reams of info!!! I really wanted to reply to the commenter the other day who was analyzing some pictures of a girl caught in Tailand, connected to Russia, I believe…but there are just so many Treepers & comments that I’ll just post it to this thread…

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  8. nwtex says:

    California to become first state eliminating bail for suspects awaiting trial
    7 hours ago

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/28/california-to-become-first-state-eliminating-bail-for-suspects-awaiting-trial.html

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    • Rynn69 says:

      Effort to avoid ICE arrests? California is on a suicide mission.

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    • czarowniczy says:

      Wish we had that in New Orleans – the city courts turn alleged murderers out on bail all of the time. If the magistrate sets a high bail the crook and his lawyer just go judge shopping until they find one who’ll lower the bail. We’ve had lifetime criminals get out and kill one of our ex-deputies. We have a guy now who got his bail reduced, returned to the scene of the crime and demanded the victims pay his bail or he’d kill them.
      Bail is largely a joke now, not that long ago the Feds broke a chain of NOLA area judges who were working with some bail bond companies, the judges were taking a cut of the bail they set for clients when these clients used the bail service. If you’ve got the pull you can get a lowered bail, if not you cough up big bucks or end up housed indefinitely in the Orleans Parish jail, sometimes for years, while your court date is decided.

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      • nwtex says:

        Hi czaro. If ya take a peek at the story you’ll see it’s really not what you are thinking. Suspects will be released within 12 hours without even posting bail.
        I was going to include this (below) with the the link I posted but the admin doesn’t want me to do that anymore as they told me to include just a brief sentence re what a link is about.

        Suspects awaiting trial in California will now have their bail eliminated according to a bill signed by Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown on Tuesday.

        In lieu of bail, suspects will be gauged under a risk-assessment system, although the details of the program, which will take effect in October 2019, were not immediately clear.
        […]

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        • czarowniczy says:

          Maybe my wording in the reply – at times my sarcasm doesn’t carry over. What we have is almost a ‘no bail’ system here, what they have in CA is ca crap shoot.
          If anyone thinks a troop of dedicated civil servants will be using Anubis and his scale to weigh defendants’ hearts…..
          I don’t want to think about how many fine folks out on bail/probation/parole I ran into doing dirty – someone thought they should be out on the streets too. We had one judge who thought that there were too many young black men in jail so he ROR and low-bailed them. Guess where this one’s going?
          Then we had the ones bailed on domestic violence – they even had a restraining order! These programs start out with good intentions but that road to hell and all.

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          • nwtex says:

            Nah, your wording was just fine.

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          • nwtex says:

            No concern for the victims at all. Terrible.

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            • czarowniczy says:

              We once had a guy in jail who’d done a home invasion and, on the way out, killed the two people in the home. When they asked him why, after he got the loot, the residents were killed, he said that they didn’t want any witnesses so their chances of going to jail were less. And he wasn’t the worst one.

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      • nwtex says:

        OH! That supposedly applies to “non violent” suspects only. hmmmm

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        • czarowniczy says:

          Non-violent on the charge they’re up on or if they have previous violent charges – adjudicated or not – will they count?
          We have punks with dozens of violent charge arrests, many with no real judicial action, and there’s no shortage of judges who ROR or lightly bail them. Then there’s the judge who imposes a solid bail and the public defender goes and shops other judges to get the bail reduced.
          It may work in CA, I’m just bitter about how it ‘works’ in Louisiana.

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          • nwtex says:

            It can’t work in California or anywhere imo. The criminals will be back on the streets before the arresting officer can get to his paperwork. Actually, truth be known, it’s been like that for decades anyway. But now the arrestee won’t even have to give a thought about getting bailed out it’s just a “see ya” and back to the streets.

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            • czarowniczy says:

              Ones around here use bail as the opportunity to go back and intimidate/kill the witnesses who’ll testify against them at trial.

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  9. nwtex says:

    Quick-Thinking Deputies Save Life Of Unconscious Baby In Bellflower
    August 28, 2018

    video-
    https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2018/08/28/deputies-save-life-unconscious-baby-bellflower/

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    • piper567 says:

      nwtex, thanks for posting this.
      Just a wonderful little uplifting vignette…
      Bless these people. With all they witness each day, I imagine their ability to accomplish this goodness did much to lift their spirits.

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      • nwtex says:

        You’re welcome piper. Makes the heart feel good for sure.
        Thankfully the media chose to put this out in public. I guess their conscious won out! Their one good deed to try to offset some the 100’s of slanted and negative stories.

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  10. smiley says:

    Florida Governor race…

    this one we sure don’t need…

    BREAKING : Race For Florida Governor Is Officially Set, And The Democrat Is Currently Under Investigation

    Aug 28, 2018

    https://ilovemyfreedom.org/breaking-race-for-fl-governor-is-officially-set-and-the-democrat-is-currently-under-investigation/

    this guy….

    …that’s Tallahassee mayor, Andrew Gillum, endorsed by Bernie Sanders, who won the Dem nomination in yesterday’s primaries for Florida Governor.

    and is currently under FBI investigation for corruption.

    “The FBI launched an investigation into Tallahassee’s city hall and key government players as early as 2015 as part of an ongoing corruption probe.”

    that “probe” includes Gillum’s “friend and former campaign manager who received tax money to subsidize a redevelopment project.”

    ugh

    Gillum also failed to “disclose more than $400,000. in mortgage debts…”

    the last thing Florida needs, criminy.

    DeSantis better win this one.

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    • Donna in Oregon says:

      He is supported by George Soros…..and the Bernie Sanders gang.

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    • Jeff C-C says:

      Sundance, I believe you were instrumental in bringing Florida to Trump. We’re counting on the Treehouse Brigade for your governorship. This is yuuge! It’s Trump vs. Soros. The whole world will be watching.

      Some background: http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2643.htm
      “World Watches In Stunned Silence After Trump Singlehandedly Creates His Own ‘Blue Wave’ Monster He Can Kill With ‘Red Tsunami'”

      From the article (links preserved in the original article)
      Due to longtime Trump associate and Mar-a-Lago member Jeff Green suddenly entering the Florida Democratic Party Primary to confront Gwen Graham in a bid he couldn’t possibly win, however, this report says, the Foreign Ministry began a closer examination of Chris King and Philip Levine—with their noting that King, as a long time Christian, was more aligned with Trump then the Democrats, and whose real estate company, Elevation Financial Group, LLC, stands ready to make tens-of-millions of dollars from Trump’s Housing and Urban Development Department—with Levine (known as “The Trump of Beach Politics”), also, being more aligned with Trump then the Democrats as he had partnered with Berkshire Partners to acquire Starboard Cruise Services—whose owner, and one of the world’s richest men, Warren Buffet had declared before the 2016 US presidential election that “if Trump wins, Berkshire wins”—and after Trump won, saw Buffet declaring that Berkshire stood to make $11 billion, of which Levine would substantially benefit from.
      . . .
      To why President Trump launched his Green-King-Levine “spoiler candidates” against Democratic Party establishment front-runner Gwen Graham, this report explains, was to ensure she would be defeated by her Democratic rival Andrew Gillum—the Mayor of Tallahassee, Florida, that is under a massive FBI investigation for corruption reaching to its highest levels of government whose tentacles have ensnared and entrapped everyone in its path—but that didn’t stop, in any way whatsoever, anti-Trump globalists George Soros and Tom Steyer from pouring money and support into their socialist ally Gillum’s campaign, and that led to his upset victory over Graham just hours ago.
      In early June 2018, too, this report further details, President Trump began receiving polls showing that his Green-King-Levine “spoiler candidates” were, indeed, taking down Gwen Graham, and whose main beneficiary of was Andrew Gillum—and that then saw Trump suddenly endorsing his stalwart ally US Congressman Ron DeSantis to be the next Governor of Florida—who after Trump’s endorsement skyrocketed to the lead over Republican Party establishment candidate Adam Putnam—and who hours ago, like Gillum, won a stunning victory upset.

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  11. nimrodman says:

    Ladies and gentlemen, Common Sense has left the building
    … in short supply these days …

    Teen girl fighting CANCER told to take off the hat she uses to cover up chemo hair loss because it’s ‘against’ school picture day policy
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6107595/Teen-fighting-CANCER-told-hat-used-cover-chemo-hair-loss-school-picture-day-policy.html

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    • smiley says:

      the ignorant are ignorant of their own ignorance..

      and…

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    • amwick says:

      Well, it is upsetting at first glance, but isn’t it possible that the photographer just didn’t know this young lady was battling cancer? Did anyone explain that at the time, like a grownup? Middle school kids can be difficult. Of course, the photographer could have
      just been a jerk,,, but reading this, it isn’t obvious.
      BTW she said that she did not want any special treatment, except that apparently she did..
      Bella said she doesn’t want special treatment because of her cancer and she doesn’t want to be singled out.
      https://www.todaytells.com/13-year-old-girl-battling-cancer-told-to-remove-hat-for-class-photo/

      This sounds like a really unfortunate misunderstanding. I really believe that there are two sides to every story… I would really like to hear what the photographer thought at the time.

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      • smiley says:

        school admin should have informed the photographer ahead of time about this student and her legitimate reason for wearing the hat.

        esp since it wasn’t a “normal” year-book type of photo session, according to the article.

        she wanted a regular one-shot year book type of photo.

        school admin dropped the ball.

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      Okay. I am not biting on this one. If the conversation went like she said it did, then I will not condemn the photographer. The girl did not tell him why she was wearing the hat. I understand that she was probably shy and embarrassed, but that doesn’t mean the photog should be condemned. Maybe her mother should have given her the tools to handle situations like this.

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  12. Donna in Oregon says:

    Katharine Hepburn’s Brownie Recipe
    A good story *and* a good recipe

    https://www.tastingtable.com/cook/recipes/katharine-hepburn-brownie-recipe

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  13. smiley says:

    South Africa update…

    South Africa Withdrawing Bill To Seize Land From White Farmers ~ For Now

    https://dailycaller.com/2018/08/28/south-africa-land-white-farmers/

    8/28/2018

    “South Africa temporarily withdrew an expropriations bill enabling the country to make compulsory land purchases from white farmers to redress racial disparities rampant during apartheid.”

    that “bill” (never signed, BTW) was “part of a so-called ‘land reform’ program…”

    “some lawmakers”, however, “worry the program could suffer the same fate as…Zimbabwe..in the early 2000s…” under dictator Mugabe.

    (and maybe South Africa can give a little nod of thanks to PDJT’s recent input on this ?)

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  14. nimrodman says:

    Counterculturists get a lesson in dust storms

    First a whiteout and now POTHOLES: Burning Man has very unsexy interruption as entry roads have to be closed for sudden repairs
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6106503/Burning-Man-entry-roads-closed-sudden-pothole-repairs.html

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  15. duchess01 says:

    Verse of the Day

    “Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.”
    Ephesians 6:11 (KJV)

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  16. smiley says:

    mid
    week
    😀

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  17. anthohmy says:

    Tonight, my 22-year-old recommended I read a thread from @thelastrefuge2 on twitter.

    2 years ago he was berating me for my conspiracy theories gleaned from my twig on the tree.

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  18. Dora says:

    “The Garden Steps” by Pierre Bonnard (1940)

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  19. amwick says:

    Last night I went out to look for my satellite and I saw a shooting star… I saw some during that meteor shower a few weeks back, but this one was out of the blue..
    Happy Wednesday peeps… stay safe.

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  20. Dora says:

    This is the most ridiculous comment I’ve heard so far about the scandal.

    BTW, if it means anything, I understand that Bishop Cupich was good friends with Obama during their younger days in Chicago.

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  21. Dora says:

    Oh, come on young people! Don’t be so easily manipulated!

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  22. getfitnow says:

    Between Hillary and Feinstein, China knows more about the US Government than the American people do.

    FTA – According to the Daily Caller, the only news site that has continued to pursue this story, a Chinese-owned company gained access to Clinton’s unsecured private server, and embedded code that then sent them copies of every email she sent.

    The story goes to note that the FBI knew about this, even as then FBI-Director James Comey was drafting Clinton’s get-out-of-jail free statement.
    https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/china-reportedly-hacked-clintons-state-department-emails-did-the-fbi-cover-that-up-too/

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  23. Dora says:

    The beautiful Ingrid.

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  24. smiley says:

    something to watch…off the coast of Africa and the Capo Verde islands…

    heading west-northwest…next 5 days : 50%

    https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=2

    no likey

    prayer warriors ! ❤

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  25. TigerBear says:

    Does not shock nor surprise me, sadly.
    If you research the history on the catholic church and the history of the Popes, it hasn’t exactly been Godly, nor merciful. It is actually littered with murder, abuse and down right evilness. The Jesuit sect history alone should scare the bejeebers out of you. Very Vicious!

    My biological dad was Catholic and he was also involved in the mafia. Or so I was told. As long as he gave a portion of his ill gotten gains to the church…..they turned blind eyes to what he was and what he did.

    I did not join the catholic church nor any other religion. No trust in any organized religion.

    I am a believer, but I do not believe any man/woman should be revered as God, speaking for God or as His right hand. Christ sits to the right, not the pope or any other flesh in this world. And the Bible speaks for God, as He is the author.

    Just my view. 🙂

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    • TigerBear says:

      Apologies. This comment was meant in reply to Dora’s article on this bishop Blase!

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    • New Nonna Again!!! says:

      Hi TigerBear… if I may, I’d like to share my view on what you shared. This is not a ‘ur wrong in what you think’ post, tho, so please don’t take it like that, ok? 😊

      1- I always like to say that those of us who ARE Catholic know we are NOT perfect. We are merely sinners, humans, and not nearly perfect.

      2- I don’t know of any man or woman we revere as God.

      3- The Catholic (universal) Church was begun by Jesus, Himself, with Peter chosen by Him as Its Rock, on whom the Church would be built. When Peter died, the Followers of Jesus carried on w the Tradition and Word of God as spoken by Jesus. Our Church is ‘Apostolic’ in that the succession of Peter and other people with first hand-knowledge of Jesus’ Life & teachings who died was carried on from generation to generation of others taught by those who preceded them. To this day, the Pope is a successor of Peter, the first Pope. The pope being a mere mortal man, he is not perfect, but the teachings of Christ through the Word of God and Tradition are infallible.

      4- Just as you say, the Bible speaks for God, especially the Old Testament. The New Testament in particular records what His Divine Son preached and taught.

      The Pope, being a mortal man, as well as every human, sins. Jesus declared to Peter (as Head of the Church on earth) what is bound by him (the Church) on earth is bound in Heaven. What is loosed on earth will be loosed in Heaven. Thank You, Jesus!

      Jesus understands humans sin and He left us a way to reconcile ourselves to The Father.

      I write none of this to try to convert anyone but merely to give a, probably too simplistic, reply to your post. I feel the more others understand about any religion the better. Sadly, I cannot convey in depth here or with this simple post the real beauty of our Faith. But I needed to try to address ur thoughts w a first hand account of It.

      (Plus I love talking about my Faith w anyone interested. 🤗)
      Peace, my fellow Treeper. 🙏🏼😊

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      • TigerBear says:

        Thank you. 🙂

        My years of experience with/in the church and then later in life the research I did on the church has pretty well clenched my view. Very difficult to be open minded in this as the abuse I personally experienced clouds all other aspects. (my bio dad was not married to my mother and it was not looked on kindly, the child (me) paid the price, and I’ll leave it at that) I began researching because of the abuse and what I found chilled me to my very soul.

        I stated I didn’t join the church but did not state why. Being a bastard was why. I was not recognized by the catholic church as a person, just a bastard. Yes, I know they changed that, but it is of no moment to me in this late stage of life. Yes, even after 7 plus decades in this world, that still holds strongly in my mind and heart.

        As for you sharing your love of God, and Christ, I am totally open and all ears. I don’t know many who actually believe and want to share that belief. It is usually all about their church and those in it and whats happening around them. Seems its more like a social than church teaching about God and Christ.

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        • New Nonna Again!!! says:

          Dear TigerBear, thank you so much for replying. I cannot express to you how terribly sad I am about abuse committed by anyone in any church, but most especially the Catholic Church. All abusers will surely answer to Our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Mankind is so unkind in so many instances. Your experience surely affected you to the depth of your soul. I’m very sorry you had to experience that.

          I worked in a small, private Catholic elementary school until my retirement. Part of my duties were to register students. We were located in a depressed part of the area, and this school Gv parents a Godly alternative to the frightening public schools in their towns. My heart breaks at the thought of any of the hundreds and hundreds of children (PK-8), who became part of our school family, experiencing any abuse. ‘Let the children come to me’.

          I pray for you and I’m sure, thousands and thousands of people who have been abused as children. Such innocents. The aborted babies in particular. 😢

          God bless you dear TigerBear. Your words speak to me as someone who is a good and ‘deep’ person… the kind of person I would enjoy speaking and exchanging ideas with and sharing my love of The Blessed Trinity’s with. 🤗

          Be well. I will keep you in my prayers along with so many who ask for them or not. 🙏🏼

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          • TigerBear says:

            Thank you for your kindness.

            May God bless and keep you, always

            Prayers are always welcome, and I will pray for you too. 🙂

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            • New Nonna Again!!! says:

              I always say, prayers are the best thing anyone can ever give me. Thank you for YOUR kindness.

              God bless you, and keep you, always too. 💕🙏🏼

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  26. Dora says:

    Every day could use a bit of silliness. 🙂

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  27. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ infidels!

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  28. Kayak-cat says:

    Good morning all,

    Sorry for the long post, but it took us over 240 years to get here…

    I’ve been hanging out in CTH for the last 4 months following the excellent threads. Came here via an AT link. Full disclosure – I spent 37 years in the swamp altruistically thinking I was protecting the freedom of the US and her allies. Now I have what is referred to here as “cold anger.”

    I worked for General Hayden. He and General Clapper and Brennan have done irreparable damage to this country — worse than Snowden. General Hayden being a devout catholic, should fall on his 4 star sword and come clean and end this soft coup. Of the three, I think he would be the only one with the conscience and maybe guts to do it.

    In Luigi Giussani’s “A Religious Sense” he describes in chapter 8 (pg87-93) the Loss of Freedom. Below are the some direct quotes, others are paraphrased.

    “…freedom, for the human being, is the possibility, the capacity, the responsibility to be fulfilled, that is to say to reach and confront one’s destiny: it is the total aspiration for destiny. Thus freedom is the experience of the truth of ourselves…”

    It is for this reason that the Lord says, “The truth will set you free” (John 8:32)

    The world on a human level is called humanity, but in concrete terms is called society. Society is a certain organic and determined order; and it is through those in power that order is maintained. Even a government shapes society because of the power it has. Two thousand years ago, the only man who had all human rights wa the civis romanus, the Roman citizen.

    However, the church alone, in its tradition, defends the absolute value of the person from the first instant of conception to the last moment of old age. Church teachings affirm that “the body is given by the parents, but the soul is infused directly by God.” The soul depends on the infinite; the maker of the whole world. “The world can do what it wants with me, but it cannot conquer me, posses, grasp on to me because I am greater than it is. I am free. This is where freedom of conscience is derived. The human being has not only the the capacity; but also the duty to judge and act according to ultimate personal comparison to the truth and good.”

    “…these are the times that try men’s souls…”

    If General Hayden is of the ilk of Cinncinatus, he should report to the Pentagon in full class “A’s” with his sword. He sould confess to his participation in espionage and sedition; offer his sword, be dressed down by an A1C; and after given the choice of firing squad, hanging, or drugs by a tribunal; hope/pray that they spare his life.

    Our Father who are in heaven, hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day, our dailey bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us, and lead us not into temptation but deliver from us evil. For thine is the kingdom, the power and the glory now and forever. Amen

    Glory be to the Father, and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit as it was in the beginning is now and evet shall be world without end. Amen.

    now…all you trolls and lurkers — report back to the General.

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    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      Good morning.
      Glad you have joined us.
      Thanks for the info in your post, I don’t think any of those people will be following your advice.

      There are millions of people that are “religious, but still “lost”, because they are trying to work their way to heaven, instead of trusting Christ 100% for their salvation..

      Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
      22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
      23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

      Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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      • Deplorable_Infidel says:

        Isaiah 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

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        • Kayak-cat says:

          Yes, we all sin, and that is why the sacrament of reconciliation allows us to confess and receive some new guidance — penance.

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    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      “I worked for General Hayden. He and General Clapper and Brennan have done irreparable damage to this country — worse than Snowden.”

      When you have the time, please give us your evaluation of this:

      KEVIN SHIPP
      Former CIA Officer Exposes the Deep State
      ​ and Shadow Government

      https://www.speakupsaveamerica.com/blog/cia-whistleblower-speaks-every-american-should-listen
      ======================
      THE SHADOW GOVERNMENT

      The Shadow Government is a system that manipulates Washington, DC behind the scenes, that operates beyond the control of Congress, that even dictates the actions of the president and affects the daily lives of every American. It is real and has been growing in complexity for over sixty years. While the American people work long hours just to survive and make ends meet, the Shadow Government spends billions of dollars on secret operations, overthrowing governments and engages in covert wars that kill thousands – all without any vote or say by the American people; the people that pay the taxes the Shadow Government uses to fund these operations.

      While their Congressmen and Senators promise they will make their lives better and improve their difficult standard of living, these same Congressmen vote for billions of dollars in military and covert action programs, taking contributions from the lobbyists of connected Shadow Government military industrial corporations. The people starve while the kings shower themselves with gold.

      https://www.fortheloveoffreedom.net/

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      • Kayak-cat says:

        Thank you for these links. While I knew most of the info Mr Shipp presents, he did tie up some loose ends (from the CIA perspective) that I was unaware of.

        I agree in general/principal with everything he says, I cant comment/verify any of the numbers he uses or the CIA operations he mentions. However, I would not disagree with any of the numbers he presents.

        Yes, there is a shadow government which was pointed out by a treeper awhile back and it is described by Michael Glennon in his paper National Security and Double Government. http://www.pce.at/PDF/US-Schattenregierung.pdf

        Trump and the CTH and many others represent the Madisonians;
        While the Deep State represents the Trumanites.

        I suspect there are many people like me who’ve altruistically worked in the “deep state” and have been duped as technology rolled on. Whistleblowers at the lower levels or on the edges will never right the wrongs of the deep state. It will have to come from someone very high up within the state, or through the actions of

        In Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings, Smeagol struggles with his other self, Gollum.
        General Hayden has to be struggling with his “other self.”
        He can’t NOT recognize the tyranny of the deep state.

        from this mornings readings: Jos 24:15
        As for me and my household, we will serve the LORD.”

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    • Monticello says:

      Welcome. Relatively new here myself.
      We’ve had the feeling something has been terribly wrong since Clinton presidency.
      Never forget the day Bush “announced” The Great Recession of 2007. He looked like a man who had been gut shot. Almost gave up hope at that point. Now we have the great disrupter, a George Patton of a President and perhaps there is finally going to be both justice and an awakening tothe dangers of socialism.

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    • New Nonna Again!!! says:

      Kayak-cat, you sound like you hv first hand knowledge of the evil of the men you mention. I’d encourage you to contact the WH, Giuliani or someone to share it with. I would if I had such knowledge. For the good of our country. 🙏🏼🇺🇸

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      • Kayak-cat says:

        Nope, not first hand knowledge, been retired for 8 years…
        but all of the info generated by SD, the treepers culling through MSM, and the conservative blogs that generate the linkage between all of the hearings are on target. I feel confident that PDJT has all the info he needs and will release it for election timing. It would save a lot of time and $$$ if someone like Hayden would fall on his sword.

        My main concern is what to do with 60 million voters when the democratic party implodes.

        30 million probably were duped into voting for HRC and did not want Trump for personal reasons. Their penance is to read ONE CTH blog everyday for a year and watch Death of a Nation.

        20 million probably just voted for a woman president (which I am all for– I have 3 daughters!) or because they always voted democrat, were told to vote that way — or hated Trump. Their penance is to read TWO CTH blogs daily for a year and watch Death of a Nation monthly

        10 million intentionally voted to destroy the country — no possible way for reconciliation. Send them to CA, NY and MA.

        Maybe a future post will be: What to do with 1000 Colleges and Universities!

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        • New Nonna Again!!! says:

          Ha! 😊😊 Awesome post, kayak-cat!

          I personally think voting for a female simply bc she’s female is as wrong as voting for a person of color simply bc he/she’s ‘of color’.

          If your daughters grow up and run for Office and their philosophy of Govt align w my preferences for policies Trump espouses and Deplorables support, they’ll def hv my vote! 😊😊

          I hope they do!! 😊👍🏼

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          • kayak-cat says:

            Thanks NNA and I agree with you – vote for competence!!!

            Pretty sure none of my daughters will be running for office. However, one will be getting her PsyD — hopefully to help the TDS sufferers.

            Congrats on the new born, stay cool on the coast. I think Trump fireworks will be starting sometime in September. Get your supply of popcorn early

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    • trumpismine says:

      Kayak-cat, wonderful comment. Thank you fir warming my heart

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  29. duchess01 says:

    TUESDAY, AUGUST 28, 2018
    Satan’s Demonic Complex and Swamp

    https://www.theignorantfishermen.com/2017/06/satans-demonic-complex-and-swamp.html

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    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      Very good article. The forces of darkness have spawned literally hundreds of thousands or even millions of things to keep mankind from the truth.

      Revelation 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

      2Corinthians 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

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  30. mauiis says:

    Great quote from Michael Hopf, Marine combat veteran and author.

    “Hard times create strong men,
    Strong men create good times,
    Good times create weak men,
    Weak men create hard times.”

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  31. F.D.R. in Hell says:

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    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      If an earthquake ever disrupts those aqueducts funneling water to those cities out west, they are going to be in a world of hurt out there for a long time – even if the earthquake event itself does not injure or kill anyone.

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  32. Sepp says:

    “The Diminishing Choices for Americans”

    Sober and stark words in the latest article from John Guandolo and his team at Understanding the Threat.

    http://www.understandingthethreat.com/diminishing-choices

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  33. Sepp says:

    “Thy face, O Lord, do I seek; hide not Thy face”

    Today, the 16th of August (on the Orthodox Christian Church’ traditional Calendar), we honor the Holy Mandylion, the Icon ” Not Made by Hands.” The account of the Icon’s origin is taken from the “Prologue from Ohrid.”

    http://www.orthodoxtruth.org
    This particular blog has many superb articles with selections from Holy Scripture and specific writers with practical counsels and insights.

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  34. Mercenary says:

    Ron Desantis being attacked for saying “don’t monkey this up” about election. He should just say that anyone who thinks that phrase is about race is themselves a racist.

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  35. PotP says:

    Developing story: mass casualty incident in Ohio prison.

    Seems MANY guards & nurses and a few inmates were sickened by drug exposure (likely K2 or fentanyl/carfentanil)

    https://www.whio.com/news/local/several-guards-inmates-treated-for-possible-overdoses-ross-correctional-institution/GAa5p0xclXPY9eOYtiZWdO/

    Thread with detailed discussion:

    https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Bioterror-Chemical-event-in-Southern-Ohio-Fenatyl-in-air-ducts-/5-2141908/

    There have been multiple events at Pennsylvania prisons over the past month:

    https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2018/08/28/sci-greene-employee-unknown-substance-exposure/

    Aside from the danger to corrections workers, this presents a new problem for any area of large gatherings.

    USSS: stock more Narcan. No telling where this may show up next.

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  36. BigMamaTEA says:

    This is apparently John McCain worship week. Senate is out, (except for pro-forma sessions) until after Labor Day.

    Today, McNasty is lying in State at the Arizona Capitol with public procession tomorrow to a Baptist Church in Phoenix. Friday, McNasty will lie in State at the US Capitol with ceremony (live-streamed) at 11:00amEST. Saturday there will be a procession from the US Capitol to Vietnam Veterans Memorial to the Washington Nation Cathedral (invitation only; but to be live-streamed)

    For info: https://www.johnmccain.com/

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    • New Nonna Again!!! says:

      Enjoying a few days at Cape May w our son, his wife and their sweet 17m/o, our first grand baby and our daughter, her husband and their 3 m/o. Iv not seen any news etc since Friday.
      💖🤗💕

      We return home tomorrow. Thank you for the info on McShame the Stain. I shall NOT be watching. 🤮💀👎🏼

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      • New Nonna Again!!! says:

        PS: I HAVE stayed in contact w CTH! At the beach enjoying the sun (HOT!!!), shade (thank goodness for umbrellas) and the beautiful water (PERFECT temperature!)

        Checking out CTH and am thankful for SD and all you Treepers. 😊👍🏼

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  37. BigMamaTEA says:

    Tues. Sept. 4th, the Judiciary Committee will have the Hearing for Judge Brett Kavanaugh for the Supreme Court , starting at 9:30amEST.

    I’ll post a reminder on Labor Day.

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  38. TwoLaine says:

    ICYMI: Update on Italy’s Bridge Collapse – 43 Souls Lost

    Genoa bridge: Renzo Piano volunteers design idea
    29 Aug 2018

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45340716

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  39. Minnie says:

    Prayers for the soul of a young man found murdered and buried today here in Nassau County.

    Suspected MS13 murder.

    First reports are he may have been there for a year 😢

    May God hold this family in the palm of His Hand.

    Too close, too sickening, too heart breaking.

    Down the block from the HS from where my boys graduated.

    Gangs, get them out, get them ALL out.

    🙏🏼

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  40. In the liturgical calendar of the RC church today
    is the memorial of the beheading of John the Baptist, martyr.

    In the Office of Readings for the Liturgy of the Hours is given an excerpt from a homily by Saint Bede the Venerable, priest. As I have been following with a heavy (but prayerful) heart the scandal now revealed by Archbishop Vigano, St. Bede’s words brought some consolation to me.

    “There is no doubt that blessed John suffered imprisonment and chains as a witness to our Redeemer, whose forerunner he was, and gave his life for him. His persecutor had demanded not that he should deny Christ, but only that he should keep silent about the truth.

    Nevertheless, he dies for Christ.
    Does Christ not say:
    ‘I am the truth’?

    Therefore, because John shed his blood for the truth, he surely died for Christ.”

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    • piper567 says:

      think, I do not know whether I can watch this.
      I am not an ostrich, nor am I R.C.
      But I have a tremendous respect for Benedict, and was just sick when he was replaced by a SA Jesuit.
      I sorta smelled a rat at that time.
      The two men are just too radically different.

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      • kayak-cat says:

        It’s important to learn the truth. I initially thought that Pope Benedict resigned due to the Vatican financial scandal but the video goes into much more detail that Cardinal Vigano uncovered and that Pope Benedict could not humanly resolve. The last 20 seconds are the most important: do not lose hope. do not give in to hate…

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        • piper567 says:

          kayak, thanks for your comments. I do intend to watch it – all of it.
          really appreciate the input from both you and thinkthink

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      • Piper, there is nothing to avoid in this video. (IMO)

        It is a reasonable presentation of the facts without any shocking images. Those that are praying for the healing of the wounds in Christ’s body would be informed by learning about this.

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  41. Bendix says:

    What the heck do “conservatives” have to do with the Catholic Church’s sex abuse scandal?
    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/376806.php
    “Racist New York Times: “Conservatives Pounce” on Local Crime Story Involving the Vatican and Child Sex Abuse”
    I’ve been saying for some time, right after they brought in a new pope, that by doing so they effectively changed the subject.
    Suddenly it was sexual abuse of children, it was all about immigration, but only from Latin America, where the current pope hails from.
    The NYT is sick to try to make this a political issue.
    Are they saying liberals like child abuse?

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  42. amwick says:

    Email from a friend:

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  43. I just saw a “life imitating art” post over at American Thinker that compares the movie “Enemy of the State” with the current events of today. Rather eerie the similarity between the movie and the daily discussions found here and very few other places.

    As well, I have seen the odd article about a resurgence of Whooping Cough, Measles and other diseases that we once though long gone from our neighborhoods. And once again, these stories come out just as school begins. And in the general area around Fayetenam, the ‘county crud’ has already started and we are just 3 days into the new school year.

    Now I know some parents do not trust the various vaccines due to the probability that they are causing various forms of Autism. But I would not think, and perhaps I am incorrect, that that small of a part of our local populations would be enough to bring back these diseases in the numbers we see reported. (Who knows how many there really are)

    Perhaps, just maybe possibly, it could be traced to the large numbers of people with “documentation issues” being placed in our communities instead of being returned to their place of origin??
    Naw, that would confusing the issues with facts again, or having the tinfoil fedora on a little tight.

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  44. auscitizenmom says:

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  45. Blue Ridge Mts Va. says:

    A different kind of pet, a Bee without wings.

    Liked by 1 person

  46. Minnie says:

    Update:

    (Newsday)
    The body of a young man killed by MS-13 gang members was found buried in a shallow grave in East Meadow on Wednesday, after police acted on tips that human remains had been left in the area, said Nassau County Police Commissioner Patrick Ryder. (Credit: News 12 Long Island)

    May his soul Rest In Peace and may his family find closure.

    This young man was murdered a little over a year ago.

    God be with us 🙏🏼

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  47. andyocoregon says:

    If you’re suffering from the heat this week, as many are, try to remember it will only be a few months until you can expect weather like this again.

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