President Trump Hosts Bipartisan Meeting on School Safety and Firearms…

Earlier today President Trump held a meeting with Republican and Democrat representatives who are reviewing a myriad of legislative proposals on school safety improvements.

Using an increasingly familiar and rather Trumpian approach, the President instructs the media to remain in the room for well over an hour as the various positions and politicians debate and outline their proposals.

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Remember the ‘alarms‘ over the previously similar DACA meeting?

Wolfmoon Reminder: “Well, I don’t really have to do any holding together, now that I figured out what Trump is up to. He is shaking things out, but counting on Trump gravity to pull things back together as he moves along.

He is moving “forward” at speeds Obama could not even dream of.

You and I will be anti-Trump trolls one day and MAGA heroes the next. Get used to it. Trump speed is the new normal. Some will call it flip-flopping, but that’s not what it is. Trump is dodging and weaving through reality faster than the reality can react to disrupt his plans.

I was explaining this to my wife. This is a roller-coaster now. Trump is no longer waiting for people to keep up. He is taking his bewildering art-of-the-deal campaign schtick into geopolitics, and for a lot of people who can’t keep up or hold on, it will be a rough ride.

Trump is no longer playing only with evil and cunning players who are still predictable, easily beatable dopes, like Hillary. He is playing against killers, with his own team of killers, and all the while he has scheming creeps like Hillary, BGI, SPLC, and the neocons gunning for him. Snake Ryan ready to bite when nobody is looking. “Warhead” McCain screaming for Russian blood. Psycho Kim and Samoa Obama plotting some kind of intrigue to take him down. And THOSE are the lightweights.

This is the majors now. Trump has to outwit world-class adversaries and “frenemies” by defining the deals that they will agree to. One minute they will think Trump is their friend – the next minute, a cunning, bitter foe.

And he has to do this with evil cheerleaders like Warhead, Linderace, Dipsy Dowd, Maggie Haterman, and Fake Yapper trashing him or praising him alternately, no matter which way he goes. They can’t keep up, either.

Neither can many around him. I think that half of the problem with advisers crashing into each other is they don’t realize what Trump is doing.

And people will trash you, and they will trash me. Get used to it. I’ve already caught plenty of people mocking me. Well, just wait a week in Trump time. Look stupid and conned by Trump one minute, and you look like a sage three days later.

Trump will not find perfect solutions. He will find OPTIMAL solutions. We cannot ask for more. Trump has stood by and watched Perfect murder Good for 8 years – maybe longer. He’s not gonna do it. He’s going to deliver the best outcome possible, and he’s not waiting for us to feel relaxed about it.

Best presidency ever! Just hang on. More winning is coming, but a lot of people are going to scream that it’s all over at EVERY turn.

The best way through this is to define viewpoints, not people, because people will shift as they change position and velocity in Trump gravity. Bash the neocon, warmonger, and dopey globalist positions – not the people who are going to hold them one moment and come loose from them later.

Trump is Jupiter moving through the asteroid belt. He is going to pull people into his orbit. A few will get slung off into space, but most will come along for the ride of their lives.

I am ON the Trump Train for good, even if I scream that I want off and can’t take it.

In the end, I only want to scream “TOO MUCH WINNING!!!” (link)

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873 Responses to President Trump Hosts Bipartisan Meeting on School Safety and Firearms…

  1. Troublemaker10 says:

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  2. Southrider says:

    I was an early supporter and contributor. Let me be PERFECTLY clear. If Trump enacts, be it via ‘regulation’ or legislation, a ban on any semi-automatic firearm, or its associated magazines or ammunition, I will never contribute or vote for the man again,
    Ever.
    The FEDERAL government exists to do only a few things. It is explicitly prohibited by its charter from doing even fewer.
    This would be a gross violation not only of his campaign promises, but of his oath of office to defend the constitution.

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  3. amwick says:

    So can some one please tell me how much an Ar15 costs?… My birthday is coming up pretty soon.

    I am not concerned about our President negotiating/talking. He has a style, and a flare, but he has also an objective. This objective is what will become reality…how that happens is just not what the swamp is accustomed to, which is why we elected him. Carry on Mr. President! So far so good.

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    • USMCLt says:

      The Ruger AR-556 is a fine choice. The chamber and barrel accept both 5.56 and .223 with no problem.

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      • amwick says:

        Husband has a Ruger… hmmmmm but it is a pistol…See this is why I stay home when he goes shooting, all the numbers…. that and the noise…

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        • ATheoK says:

          Wear good headphones; ones that reduce loud sounds at least 26 decibels.

          The best headphones allow regular speech while blocking loud percussive sounds.

          AR rifles run a very large gamut of prices.
          As other have mentioned Ruger is a good company. S&W is decent and improving; though customers are treated as testers.

          Excellent AR rifle manufacturers include Patriot Arms and Alexander Arms, though there are quite a few companies building high quality firearms.
          All of them are online and easy to research.

          .223 and/or 5.56 are essentially the same round and a good choice for beginners as quality ammunition is cheaply available.
          .223 tends to be the commercial round.
          5.56 tends to be the military round. There is a technical difference, mostly in chamber pressure; so shoot the round inscribed on your barrel! Though most 5.56 chamberings easily fire all .223 rounds.
          There is a commercial hybrid, .223 Wylde for handling all .223/5.56 rounds.

          That said, many people shoot any .223/5.56 round in their .223 rifles. Not advised and at the user’s risk. All of the manufacturers have warnings somewhere on their websites. A few explain why.

          But, depending on your particular preference for shooting, there are many caliber choices. Until one hits the larger more powerful calibers; where you begin to to consider AR-10 variants.

          .223 is a good varmint round, so-so hunting round, decent target round and an excellent plinking round.
          Close variants include:
          • 22 Nosler: excellent varmint round, good hunting round, good long distance target round, terrible plinking round (costs).
          • .224 Valkyrie is a new round that one ups the 22 Nosler but is more expensive and difficult to locate ammunition.
          • In reality, most .22 rounds are excellent AR chamberings. All one needs to install these chamberings is an upper with a barrel chambered for the round.

          AR look alikes include rifles chambered in .22 Long Rifle, .17HMR, and .22magmum all very inexpensive rimfire shooting rounds.
          These rimfire rifles are excellent for plinking, target shooting (there are clubs and competitions, and small game hunting. And they are not as noisy for beginners.

          Shooters looking to shoot metal plates at long distance, (satisfying gong sound), and low recoil like the 6mm and 6.5mm calibers.

          The original designation AR stood for Armalite, the manufacturer who supplied our military weapons.
          Most companies do not use AR to designate their rifles. AR is a colloquial slang word much like: xerox something, scotch tape, saran wrap, etc. People understand when it is used in a conversation, but causes confusion when one tries looking it up officially.

          Jim Cramer proved himself an ignoramus recently by announcing that people using AR rifles for hunting were hunting people.
          Which indicates Cramer’s utter ignorance regarding what people use. Since 2000, AR designs and similar rifles are by far the most popular hunting rifles sold and used.

          An accurate rifle to start with, accuracy is easily improved, available in a very large range of calibers, plus one can change caliber by switching the barrel out, or installing a different upper.

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      • TheLastDemocrat says:

        Ruger is a very safe choice, for the money.
        They are out there mail order for around 500.

        If, in the future, you realized you wanted things different or better, such as better trigger or heavier barrel, you just buy the part and drop it in. So, a purchase is safe in that way, as well.

        Ruger has very good customer service.
        Right now, you might catch a deal on a less-known brand, cobbled together out of parts from various sources, for as low as $450.

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        • Guy says:

          Just the cheapo S&W MP-15 is a good shooter backed by a good company.

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        • Mashall says:

          They are distinctly NOT MAIL ORDER to your home. They use to be before Americans allowed their liberty to be infringed upon in 1968. They have to be sent to a FFL (Dealer) who handles the NCIS check after your fill out the 4473.

          This major myth is perpetuated by the Disarmament Traitors to prevent private transfers which are legal in most if not all states.

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          • Mashall says:

            And remember the momentous day after the 1968 Gun Control Act was signed into law all the Robbery, Rape, Murder, and Mayhem came to a screeching halt?

            Neither did I,

            Because it did not.

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        • Rob Cook says:

          Dear Sir or Madam,
          Did you say “mail order”?!
          Please, do not give the anti’s any more ammunition than they need (pun intended) with ‘loose’ statements such as yours.
          In the future, please clarify that any legally obtained weapon purchased over the ‘internet’ or mail order, must be purchased directly from a licensed FFL and then shipped to a licensed FFL located in the state of the purchaser, and then that FFL will transfer the firearm (if allowable in that state) to the purchaser following the required background checks.
          Sincerely,
          Rob
          P.S. – The Ruger is an excellent choice for someone interested in getting their first AR at a very reasonable price!

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      • Buckeye Heathen says:

        I’ve been considering the Ruger as well a some others. Savage makes one that has recently caught my eye also.

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    • Cisco says:

      You can buy a lower, that would be complete ready to use once you add the upper parts, barrel, sights.
      Now the lower is the component that is serial numbered and you’d still have to to go thru a NCIS check.
      But the upper parts are plentiful over the counter, some even complete, just drop in.
      Build it the way you want.
      Plenty of videos on how to do it and parts available.
      Plenty of manufacturers will gladly give you advice.
      Least expensive way I know.

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    • dave says:

      Complete, anywhere from $500 to the sky’s the limit.

      Hurry up if you want one, the price will go up, just as it did the last time a ban was mooted.

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    • Bubba Whiteholder says:

      It costs as much as you wanna pay. The only thing you need to be sure if is that it goes ‘bang’ every time you pull the trigger. ENJOY shopping and researching…that’s half the fun….MAGA….

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    • testpointwp says:

      It would be in your best interest to go to a local, family-owned gun shop with a shooting range at or near the shop. Get professional training before you make a purchase. You can rent before you buy and your eventual choice may be much different from your initial consideration.
      If you do not feel confident with the gun, you will never train sufficiently to be competent. If you need a gun for personal protection, you could be making a life or death decision. That is not a decision you want to make based on price or without experienced guidance.

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    • Herman says:

      $399 at Rural King

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    • americalsgt says:

      get a Beretta CX4 about $750. Doesn’t have the stigma of an AR and plenty of punch with the 9mm. Was able to pass the review of the Canadian AR ban.

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  4. dbobway says:

    You can buy an good AR for less than a $1,000.
    If you shop around, 1/2 that.
    Gun sales slowed so much since President Trump’s election,
    Remington is going bankrupt.
    Prices are good right now.

    I like the President talking about policy out in the open,
    Even when I may not like it.

    The present gun laws we have could have
    taken the guns from the Parkland shooter.

    Perspective is needed and the Constitution is clear.
    President Trump has not dissapointed

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  5. Mike says:

    Perhaps raising the age for ownership in return for allowing full-auto guns and scrapping the 1934 Act. The art of the deal.

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    • SW Richmond says:

      Buy a rifle and learn to use it. Do it now.

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      • Mike says:

        Already got 3, getting one more soon.
        Getting 1.5″ groups at 100 yards with a CZ .308, experimenting with different loads this weekend to see if I can get it down to less than an inch.

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    • Blacksmith8 says:

      Am I the only one drooling?

      You are outside of the box

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    • Guy says:

      It appears Trump has given away all his bargaining chips on his first offer. That would hardly be an artful deal.

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      • sunnydaysall says:

        Remember what POTUS did to the libs at the DACA round table?
        Well, he is at it again! He is encouraging the libs to show the public who they truly are when it comes to our 2nd amendment rights! This is why he called the press in, just like he did with DACA! He is showing us just who the libs truly are and what they say at this meeting will come back and bite them in the butt come election day!

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        • We already know who the libs truly are. Due process is not to be trifled with. I hope he was just very upset that Hope Hicks is leaving or something.

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          • squid2112 says:

            Trump’s “due process” comment left me a bit shaken and nervous as well, however, after I calmed down a little bit I realized it was all Kabuki Theater to bate the opposition (Dem’s and RINO’s). He is pulling the very same trick he did with DACA, and it is working beautifully already. The gun grabbers are now out in force trying to out-do each other and digging a hole they will never be able to get out of. It is brilliant! … trust me, when the dust settles, there will be no bans, and Trump will have stifled this conversation for the next decade, just like immigration and DACA.

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    • dayallaxeded says:

      It’s long been 21 for pistols, so won’t be any stretch to extend that to semi-auto anything. Full auto? Never gonna happen, unless you want to pay the big $. Now suppressors, that we might get–it’s for the CHILDREN’s (and grandpa’s) hearing, dontcha know.

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  6. Kris says:

    Not one of these people mentioned the “Promise Program” that is in effect in Parkland and many, many other states in the country. This needs to be investigated and IMO should be dismantled!!!

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  7. fishon2016 says:

    Excellent post Sundance very wise advice as usual .

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  8. Randall Wenger says:

    I’ve been kicking around this idea a la “Art of the Deal” as well.

    If we are talking about accepting the raising of weapon buying from 18 to 21, in effect we are raising the age of adulthood to 21. Correct?
    We are saying that citizens under 21 are not adept enough to handle the responsibility of a firearm. This already applies to alcohol and gambling.

    What if as part of the deal, Trump proffered the raising of the voting age to 21 as well?

    I suggest a caveat would be enlistment. If a young person joins the Armed Forces, they get both privileges ahead of their peers.

    I’d love to get your thoughts to help develop this idea.

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    • Mike says:

      I’ve always liked this idea:
      1 vote for being a citizen.
      1 vote for paying income tax.
      1 vote for owning land.
      1 vote for having employee(s).

      The more skin in the game, the greater your ability to exercise your franchise.

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      • TheLastDemocrat says:

        That is a tempting idea. But “one man one vote” has some advantages.

        With votes for having more skin in the game, things shift over time the constituencies with more skin in the game. It is like Monopoly – once someone gets that first hotel on a property on the final side of the board, it is all downhill from there.

        Those with more property, etc., have various avenues of influence, and have politicians looking for their votes.

        Those who need the protections of government are the ones who need the protections of government.

        Government is not “for” those with more skin in the game. Government is “for” those who otherwise would get rights and opportunities trampled.

        We just need to stick to the laws we have, as noted. Parkland would never have happened. Also, we need to stick to less government. School systems have been bought off with this federal don’t-enforce-laws policy. Great portions of the American Catholic Church have been bought off with the money-for-migrants federal bribes. Our farming is messed up by pay-to-not-grow-crops federal policies. We have an ill-prepared work force because everyone and his or her dog spends tens of thousands on federally-insured student loans to meander through college for six years, then ask an academic adviser what degree are they the closest to getting.

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    • rashomon says:

      I know 14 year-olds that have more sense than some 38-y-o’s who are still trying to figure out what they want to do when they grow up…and they have five kids by three different women and pay nothing toward the youngsters’ livelihood. Accepting and fulfilling certain responsibilities suggests more about one’s maturity than age. I like the check-off list approach.

      A former career military person who now teaches arms safety was just interviewed on our morning news. He concluded that those who choose to do harm will spend all their ingenuity to design and rework arms to accomplish the job they want to do. Nothing will stop that.

      Better? Train and arm those willing to accept such responsibility for their schools and communities. Knowledge is power. You need more knowledge than the criminals around you intent on doing harm.

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    • Ken Lawson says:

      Studies have shown that until at least 25 a person’s brain is not mature enough to make rational, logical decisions. Until 25 the human brain makes decisions using the amygdala, which means decisions are being made based on emotion, not logic. At 25 years the human brain starts to make decisions using the frontal cortex, which then uses logic in decision making. It makes sense that these young people not be in positions to make big decisions. In fact, the change of our laws that keeps a person seen as a child until 26 so they can get their insurance through their parents plan says a lot. It was obviously an idea Obama’s administration used to get more people on Obamacare, but the fact is that I think that if people can still be considered children to bum their insurance off their parents, then they shouldn’t have any other adult rights until that time either.

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    • squid2112 says:

      When considering raising the age of firearms purchase to 21, the very first question I have is, at what age do your other Constitutionally protected rights kick in? .. Does this mean you don’t have a 1st Amendment right until you are 18 or 21? .. how about your 4th or 6th Amendment rights?

      I don’t like this idea at all. It is a slippery slope, because if they can age restrict one right, they can age restrict them all. And if they can “age” restrict your rights, they can restrict your rights for anything they see fit.

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    • Joe says:

      The voting age used to be 21 up until WWII. The 26th amendment was passed and dropped the age to 18 (Old Enough to Fight, Old Enough to Vote).

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  9. Beenthere says:

    I don’t like what Trump said about taking guns first then go through due process for those deemed mentally ill. It might work wonderfully in the beginning but as we all know about government, they have a habit of redefining the original purpose and expanding it in such a way to penalize the innocent.

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    • mostlylurking says:

      I REALLY don’t like it. Apparently, all Vietnam Vets are officially labeled as having PTSD on their VA medical records. I don’t know about the labeling of other younger vets who have experienced battle. PTSD = mentally ill is not much of a stretch. That won’t work.

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    • blognificentbee says:

      I beleive that if police come to commit you, they are already lawfully allowed to remove any items from you that could be used to harm yourself or others. Trust Trump.

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    • dawg says:

      POTUS Trump was talking specifically about the Nick Cruz guy and situations like that. When you look at all that was known and reported about Cruz, we should absolutely have confiscated HIS guns.

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      • EJ says:

        But isn’t there a process already for that? He allegedly put a gun to someone’s head. That is assault with a deadly weapon, likely a felony in FL. He should have been thrown in the pokey right then and there and he would have lost his right to own guns.

        Another “rule” would not have worked here. We would be talking about how the Sheriff was called 50 times and didn’t “take his gun”.

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        • squid2112 says:

          I am in agreement with you in that I did not like that comment at all. It left me feeling very nervous to hear our President say “take the guns first and then deal with due process”. That’s obviously not how it is supposed to work.

          However, I am becoming more and more convinced that Trump phrased it like that (along with other things he said) in order to bate the opposition into painting themselves into a corner they can’t get out of, much like DACA. If you look at some of the things going on today with the gun grabbing crowd, it becomes obvious that what he said is working, and working well. They are getting so outrageous with their rhetoric and even their new proposals, none of which stand a snowball’s chance of ever passing Congress. I believe this was all by design so Trump is clearing the table to do whatever he wants (basically nothing but security, arming teachers, etc..)

          Let’s see how it unfolds. I am certain nothing proposed thus far is ever going to make it through Congress, especially with mid-term elections coming in November. This subject is going to hit Democrats hard in the mid-term elections. This is not a good topic for them and it is now up front and center.

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    • paulraven1 says:

      If Trump wants to move the Overton window back to the right and play with the Left’s minds, why not talk about gun education classes in school. And reciprocity. More guns, not less. More rights, not less. And invite Jordan Peterson to the WH and recommend his book in a tweet. Peterson is currently the most influential philosopher and psychologist among young men in the world, and his ideas have both moral impact and practical application. They are transforming many young men. Why are we talking about restrictions of rights? Such a familiar, narrow and failed way to go.

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      • YeahURight says:

        Yes!
        Dr. Peterson has fascinated me since I first heard of him. I listen to his brilliance daily. His knowledge and explanation of world history and it’s repetition (of which we are treacherously close) has both mesmerized and horrified me.
        Once I understood what he was refusing to do and WHY, I have marveled at his conviction.
        When I watched the video of the rally at UofT where he was accosted by LGBT obnoxious activists, I noticed he was surrounded by young men who where vehement in his defense. That was encouraging to me. His testimony before the Senate on the issue (C16) should be required viewing.
        This magnificent mind must be heard by all.

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      • farrier105 says:

        I am looking at two editorials published in Pennsylvania newspapers, one after the Kentucky alleged school shooting, and one after the alleged Parkland school shooting. The first was published about six weeks ago in the OIL CITY DERRICK newspaper and was written by John Rosemond, a Family Psychologist, titled “No, Guns are not the Issue in School Shooting,” published before the alleged Parkland shooting.

        Rosemond recounts attending Valdosta High School in Georgia decades ago, when students could leave their homes for school early in the morning during hunting season to get an hour or two of hunting in before school started. Their rifles/shotguns would go with them, and be stored in their cars. During hunting seasons, everyone knew there was an arsenal out in the school parking lot. There were no shootings. (www.rosemond.com)

        The next article was published in a Sunday GREENSBURG TRIBUNE-REVIEW, and was written by the Director of Vision and Values at GROVE CITY COLLEGE in Pennsylvania, Paul Kengor. Mr. Kengor recalls how, during the “hokey” 1950s, high schools all across the country had rifle teams, New York State had 65 high schools with rifle teams, but no mass school shootings. He calls teen age boys taking their rifles into the woods to hunt with no one thinking anything about it. Mr,. Kengor’s last lines matches almost to the letter one of the few posts I made in here about Parkland (“How do you like Post-Christian America?”): “Welcome to Post-Christian America. Pretty ugly, isn’t it?”

        Nothing Trump or Congress can do will change anything. It is what is inside us that is causing the problem. The gun is just something some of us use to express that ugliness. Some attack someone’s reputation, to kill them by social ostracism. Some use litigation. Some attack in the street with baseball bats and pepper spray. Some use knives. Some attack with vehicles.

        It is all the same ugliness, turned loose after the left killed off “Ozzie and Harriett.”

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    • mimbler says:

      We saw how the IRS exhibited “judgement” to conservatives.

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  10. Jake Speed says:

    upsetting those that support you in an effort to appease those that never will, is a foolish bargain…

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    • Mike says:

      I’m not convinced that Trump is appeasing them. He’s ducking and weaving, keeping the opposition off balance. He is inside their OODA loop, and inside most of ours, as well.
      So far, he hasn’t signed an amnesty bill or a gun control bill, and I for one don’t think he will.
      It ain’t over till the fat lady sings

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      • Jake Speed says:

        While I am very much hoping for this to be an example of 6d chess…..his words are blood in the water and are encouraging action at State levels and emboldening the opposition…..and the words WILL haunt him in midterms and 2020. If it’s a game…..there better be a big win…

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    • sunnydaysall says:

      Remember what POTUS did to the libs at the DACA round table?
      Well, he is at it again! So, just don’t go and get your panties all in a bunch about what he says because he is encouraging the libs to show the public who they truly are when it comes to our 2nd amendment rights! This is why he called the press in, just like he did with DACA! What they say at this meeting will come back and bite them in the butt come election day!

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      • George says:

        I read a lot of gun blogs. Trump’s remarks are not being taken with a grain of salt as they were with his DACA pronouncements. 2A people have no sense of humor with statements like “take the guns first and then have due process”. When government takes your guns there will in most cases be no due process. The truth is Trump has lost a lot of support already because of this.

        I hope you are correct in what he might be trying to do. This was not the issue to try and play 6D chess. Gun owners and immigration patriots were who got him elected. He must deliver on both of those or he will not be elected.

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        • 4sure says:

          Ain’t no 56D chess in this game. Take guns and then worry about due process? NO WAY IN HELL. They sure aren’t arresting any treasonous bastards in the DOJ?FBI and then worrying about due process or even firing them and worrying about due process.

          Trump is not going to get reelected w/statements like this. And he wouldn’t even let Pence bail him out. Had to double down.

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      • mimbler says:

        I’m not so sanguine about what he did at the DACA round table. He raised the minimum number of illegals under discussion from 670,000 to 1.8 million.
        No one discusses the 670,000 any more. It is always 1.8 million or more now.
        And I do forecast them getting legalized somehow in the future.

        His talk elevates dem positions into mainstream positions.

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        • Kaco says:

          I cannot appreciate how he opened the dialogue on that. Dreamers weren’t on anyone’s radar, only DACA, now it’s opened it up to Dreamers, too. Now this dialogue on our 2nd amendment has been opened up as well.

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  11. Jake Speed says:

    someone needs to point out to POTUS that while we need to do something about the mental health angle…..the people that will be making those decisions have declared HIM insane in major publications and on national TV

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    • Ken Lawson says:

      Jake Speed – That’s a very good point. And when the government can determine who is and isn’t mentally stable, then they control you and you have no way to fight it. It is very dangerous to allow the government so much control. Yes, there is a violence problem in our society, but giving the government more power is not the answer. While it may work for our side now, when power shifts to the left, and it will shift because that’s the nature of how our system works, then they can use it against us.

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      • mimbler says:

        And I don’t think it would even work for our side now. DOJ as far as I can see is still largely Obama’s DOJ, regardless of who is nominally in charge of it. Average government employees are dems no matter who the president is.

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      • TarsTarkus says:

        Look at the ‘no fly’ list. You don’t even know when a bureaucrat puts you on it until you are kept off the plane, and then it’s next to impossible to get off it.

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    • mimbler says:

      Great point. Using his logic, he’d be locked up right now, and waiting for due process to free him. Of course with what we know about the judges, he might never be freed.

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  12. Trump’s history proves he is no ideologue. He is a business man. It’s the results that matter.
    The Conservative ideology is what’s best for business so in that sense he is Conservative.
    Trump is also a consummate promoter understanding how to motivate the crowd to his side. With no ideology to control the promotion he can lead a larger portion of the crowd to his point of view. Look at the advances he’s made in such a short time.
    This is all the understanding you need to chart Trump’s declarations and actions.

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  13. sunnydaysall says:

    Some here are talking about our POTUS like he is an idiot! He knows what he is doing and if you aren’t aware by now (I truly hope you are) our POTUS will always do what is best for the country and for the American People while obeying our constitution! Let the liberal media have its say on this matter but when it all boils down, our POTUS has the last word! #MAGA2020

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    • Jake Speed says:

      Don’t get upset with those of us that are only reacting to HIS words on the matter, the only reason this issue is still going strong is that HIS words are giving it oxygen. I hope he has an ulterior motive that is a big win for the CONSTITUTION…..we shall see. Until then I will view his words with a jaundiced eye….

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      • Mashall says:

        Jake this is precisely what Patrick Henry meant…”Jealous Attention”
        “Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing
        will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined… The great object is that every
        man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun.” – Speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1778

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  14. William Dorritt says:

    Some reason my post wasn’t put up?
    Seemed tame compared to many ???

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  15. William Dorritt says:

    2nd try

    Next DEM president orders round up

    Guns are taken to smelters and melted as they are collected.

    Gun owners get gift certificates for Amazon after spending $100,000 in legal fees to get the gun back after their rights were totally abridged by the Marxists Occupying DC.

    The Same game they are running on cash, you get you money back if you have $100,000 to spend on legal fees.

    Big Pharma continues to pump pills into school kids, now up to 30% on drugs.

    80,000 babies murdered by Judges in Feb, media silent.

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  16. kaste668 says:

    What I heard was a CEO doing a brainstorming session and using his words and thoughts to get people to think outside of the box. Everyone at that table, other than POTUS, is so set in their thoughts they can’t think anymore and keep regurgitating the same things over & over and nothing gets done. POTUS knows anything that is suggested has to pass the LAW. He knows it has to be able to pass House & Senate.

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    • William Dorritt says:

      We’ll see
      The optics on bombing Syria was Ivanka’s Facebook feed included the White helmets Isis propaganda, and their data was the justification for the bombing of the Christians.
      Who knows what Trumps family watches on their smart phones or the news, I doubt that any of the read this site or watch anything other than the monopoly news shows.

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  17. mossback says:

    I didn’t read everyone’s comment on this, so excuse me if I am repeating someones earlier observation. But did anyone notice President Trumps body language. With many of the folks sitting around that table, he sat back with arms crossed; some with arms crossed and a sour face, (I understand that this means he was not interested and impatient to move on)……others he leaned forward, arms open with perhaps his hands folded….(listening and attentive).

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  18. Mashall says:

    “Shall not be infringed”
    Every two bit Tyrant in the land that attempts to twist these words reminds me of this Founding Fathers words:

    “How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words!”
    Samuel Adams

    Their are many other Euphemisms, broken up into Acronyms to further disguise harmful, corrupt, legislation and policies, that Tyrants use to deceive the American Citizens

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  19. Buckeye Heathen says:

    A Speech by Virginia Delegate Nick Freitas, the liberty-minded conservative who is challenging Senator Tim Kaine, discussing the importance of the Second Amendment has been viewed over five million times in the past 24 hours.
    Friday’s speech by Freitas before the Virginia House of Delegates lead to many Democrats actually walking out and demanding a recess so that they could calm down because they were so outraged.

    http://tiny.cc/cekkry < tinyurl to avoid long url breaking when posted.

    …Freitas also laid into the Democrats for claiming they only want to get rid of bump stocks and impose background checks.

    “If you’re wanting the other reason why we can’t have an honest debate about this one is because, quite frankly, I don’t think any of us, on this side of the aisle, believe you when you say that’s all you want to do. It will be bump stocks, it will be background checks, it will be a different kind of background checks that register the guns… Then, after that, it will be ‘We need to ban assault weapons.’ ‘What’s an assault weapon?’ ‘Something that looks scary,’” Freitas asserted. “Then after that it will be semi-automatic rifles, then it will be semi-automatic hand guns. Then it will be revolvers, shotguns… because when the policies fail to produce the results you were promising your constituents, you will be back with more reasons for why we’ve got to infringe on Second Amendment rights.”…
    —-
    For the "They aren't going to try to take your guns crowd" :
    Survey: Majority of Democrats want to ban semi-automatics, half want to ban all guns.– Washington Examiner

    http://tiny.cc/fmkkry
    "When pro-gun control advocates tell you they don’t want to take your guns, they actually want to take your guns.

    At least, that’s the key takeaway from a YouGov survey released this week, which shows a significant number of self-identified Democratic respondents support the idea of total gun confiscation.."

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