Thursday January 4th – Open Thread

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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239 Responses to Thursday January 4th – Open Thread

  1. Mark says:

    Has anyone read this book?

    I haven’t bought it yet, but after reading the description I was struck by the similarities to the election of President Trump.

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  2. Gov Cuomo just announced he would fight SALT deduction. Wish he said he would open up NY State to fracking to reduce the tax burden of businesses and workers. But his liberal head is up his behind.

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  3. Mark says:

    Sorry, the book link didn’t post properly above. The book is called “The American Miracle: Divine Providence in the Rise of the Republic”

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  4. dbethd says:

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  5. David says:

    I learned this morning that Trump has closed his commission on voter fraud. This concerns me as it is obvious the states refusing to cooperate were hiding their crimes. However, I think Trump closed it not because he has given up, but because he realized it could not accomplish the objective of bringing these crimes to light. Lawsuits were bogging it down.

    So he is turning the investigation of voter fraud over to Homeland Security, anyone have any insight on whether or not they can accomplish anything?


    • BigMamaTEA says:

      David… of the problems with the Commission was one of the documents they wanted States to fill out. It asked for all kinds of personal information on the States voters; I’m talking demographic, and SS# etc, that are not required for voting; not that all those states were criminal.

      I personally faxed my Sec’y of State and Gov. telling them they were in deep doo-doo if they completed that form with my info, and gave it to who knows who.

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      • BigMamaTEA says:

        David…..Each State is fully capable of searching for fraud itself. There are some very specific states that have fraud. Plus, it would be the State prosecuting those crimes.
        We have more than one organization like True the Vote, who have taken upon themselves to audit each vote nationwide.

        The Commission would’ve been better served to be organized, then wait for outside groups to do the auditing, then give those organizations some group to report their findings to.

        States do not want the federal government interfering in elections. It’s a states’ job, even for Federal elections. The Constitution and the Law are on the States’ side.


        • David says:

          Each State is fully capable of searching for fraud itself.

          I am talking about the states that have no interest in searching for fraud, because they want to continue enabling voter fraud.

          The Constitution and the Law are on the States’ side.

          Only if that state is obeying their law and federal law, any state and any state officials engaging in fraud are not granted immunity from legal consequences by either the law or the Constitution.

          So is Department of Homeland Security taking input from True the Vote?


          • BigMamaTEA says:

            David, quit making this harder than it has to be. The Fed. commission was asking for more personal info (whoever created that form screwed up) than it takes to vote.

            If you have 50 states, and 40 of them report their audit report of any illegal voting, and 10 don’t, where are you going to look first?

            The lawsuits for the most part are about the stoo-pid FORM REQUIRING MORE INFO than necessary for that federal commission!!!


            • David says:

              David, quit making this harder than it has to be.

              Is it really that hard to answer this question? “So he is turning the investigation of voter fraud over to Homeland Security, anyone have any insight on whether or not they can accomplish anything?”

              The Fed. commission was asking for more personal info

              I don’t care, that has nothing to do with my question.

              The lawsuits for the most part are about the stoo-pid FORM REQUIRING MORE INFO than necessary

              I don’t care.

              If you want to answer my question, go right ahead. If you want to rail against Trump’s commission, you can do that too, but you might want to post that comment on its own because it isn’t relevant to what I am asking.


              • piper567 says:

                it seems to me that Homeland security is a good place for these investigations to land.
                Homeland Security, or as Trump is wont to call it – apart rom the specified Dept. – seems to be a category into which Trump puts things which he wants accomplished.
                He has called certain Energy issues Issues of National Security…seems like an elevation of certain issues…If something is an element of National Security, it somehow gets on a fast track with him., or such a designation elevates its significance.
                Do we here see Valid, open and honest elections as an issue of national Security??
                Or, it just may be that Trump sees the infrastructure in place in HS to tackle fraud-in-voting in a more reasonable way than forms, forms, and forms, especially when such forms are so patently intrusive.
                Thought on this?


                • David says:

                  I saw the following tweet Trump made early this morning: “Many mostly Democrat States refused to hand over data from the 2016 Election to the Commission On Voter Fraud. They fought hard that the Commission not see their records or methods because they know that many people are voting illegally. System is rigged, must go to Voter I.D.”

                  So I don’t know who in DHS Trump is going to delegate this problem, but it is clear he isn’t giving up on this.


              • BigMamaTEA says:

                David….you’re not real familiar to me, and I am trying to be polite to you; but YOU are acting like an ASS. Constrain yourself. Didn’t your Mama teach you any manners?!!

                Did it ever occur to you to do your own research?! Did it ever occur to you that no one may yet have the complete answer to your question yet, since it all essentially came to fruition YESTERDAY?!

                Do you normally come into someone else’s living room and take a dump on the floor?

                If you wish to remain a participant on the blog, I suggest you cool your jets, learn some manners when interacting with others, and QUIT BEING RUDE AND DEMANDING, especially to the one person who bothered to even address you. Otherwise; you will be removed.


  6. BigMamaTEA says:

    Today, on Senate tee-vee……TurtleHead addressed the fact that gov’t is operating off of a CR that expires on Jan. 19th, 2018. TurtleHead spoke of some backdoor-talks(my word) for possibly an agreement on 2yr funding. Mentioned that Armed Forces funding must be priority, and they should get rid of the “parody” (his word, my spelling) of equal cuts for defense & non-defense which Obie liked. TurtleHead, (meaning TRUMP) wants to prioritize actual needs vs. some made up formula.

    TurtleHead also spoke of S-CCHIP funding – maybe in 5 year intervals. (grrr! budget/appropriation would be sufficient)

    TurtleHead also stated the back-door-gang is concerned with Nat’l disaster funding, (of which StolenValor Blumenthal gave a melodramatic boo-hoo fest on Puerto Rico)

    TurtleHead stated that the above three issues should not be held hostage by those immagration-mongers (ie DACA)

    When Schmuck Schumer spoke (Maj Leader and Min.Leader both have first time of the day, unless they chose not to) Schmuckles, for what I’ve heard is the 3rd time now, mentioned PENSIONS. (The pensions IMO he’s referring to are Union Pensions that are underwater, and Schmuckles hasn’t said yet; but wants a bail-out!)

    TurtleHead went to Executive Committee to process more Nominations from POTUS. So, until they are ready to vote, different Sen. will blah-blah, then go to lunch, and blah-blah until TurtleHead takes the floor sometime later this afternoon.

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  7. dbethd says:


    “Alì Abdella, 38, has been accused of sexual violence and theft by attempting to rape an unidentified woman, 43, while she was in labor at the Sant’Eugenio Hospital in Rome, reported Italian outlet Il Libero Quotidianno. Abdella allegedly stole and donned a green hospital uniform, entered the woman’s hospital room….”

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    • BigMamaTEA says:

      AND don’t bring them in!!!!! This was in Rome……but if we bring them in, we’re next. Of course around here, I was strapped even when I was in labor!!!!!! {grin}

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      • dbethd says:


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        • F.D.R. in Hell says:

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        • Blue Ridge Mts Va. says:

          I love the meme. Incidentally, I found this Va. Citizens Defense League update in my email.

          Delegate Yancey won the drawing this morning to see who would represent Virginia’s 94th House district and we congratulate him! If Delegate Yancey had turned in a VCDL candidate survey in 2017, it is quite possible that we wouldn’t have needed a drawing this morning to break a tie.

          The Republicans now have a 51 to 49 majority in the House of Delegates and will choose the Speaker, most likely Delegate Kirk Cox.

          Gun owners are far from being out of the woods for the next two years, but with the unfortunate anti-rights bent of the Democrat leadership, this is good news.

          Anti-gun bills are pouring in to infringe on our right in just about any way imaginable when the General Assembly convenes on January 10. I will have an update on those bills soon. Lobby Day is January 15. We still have room on the buses from Fairfax, Fredericksburg, Roanoke, and Lynchburg.

          VA-ALERT is a project of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc.
          (VCDL). VCDL is an all-volunteer, non-partisan grassroots organization
          dedicated to defending the human rights of all Virginians. The Right to
          Keep and Bear Arms is a fundamental human right.

          VCDL web page: []

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  8. Finished late last night: Nitram and Conte’ charcoal with a twist. You can read more about the piece here and follow along when I update if you like:

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  9. Lburg says:

    Reading SD’s tweets, I realized that I don’t remember the story line to “Three Days of the Condor” so off to Wiki I went. This quote caught my attention: “Some critics also described the film as a piece of political propaganda, as it was released soon after the “Family Jewels” scandal came to light in December 1974 which exposed a variety of CIA misconduct.”

    From Wiki: “The Family Jewels is the informal name used to refer to a set of reports that detail activities conducted by the United States Central Intelligence Agency. Considered illegal or inappropriate, these actions were conducted over the span of decades, from the 1950s to the mid-1970s.”

    Since the original CIA charter was signed in 1947, it only took +/- three years for them to engage in illegal activities???? Apparently, nearly since inception, this has been a renegade group. And perhaps that’s the problem – they are a group. Theoretically, I understand the need for some bad guys to play for our country. Ostensibly they are our bad guys fighting ‘their’ bad guys.

    What recourse do we have though when our bad guys go after us?

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    • BigMamaTEA says:

      Lburg, ……Harry Truman when he retired from his POTUS seat, wrote an Op-ed in his states’ paper, apologizing and regretting that he had been the Official who approved on the formation of the CIA.

      (btw, Now adays, it’s Snow White (CIA mega-computer) and the 7 dwarfs (smaller CIA computers allocated around)

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  10. BigMamaTEA says:

    Well……unless Jeff pulls something big out of his little jacket pocket possibly this month……..the air is going to start getting thicker in DC……..

    “Reps. Mark Meadows and Jim Jordan: It’s time for Jeff Sessions to go, as shown by the latest FBI leak”

    HOWEVER – Jeff isn’t just sitting around twiddling his thumbs either. I’m on the DOJ email list.

    Now, this is a Fed. Law on the books since 1970; however, there has a Fed attempt to stop the wacky-weed for at least 80 years. A number of States now have loosened state laws on MJ.
    But Jeff pursues. So I suspect this to end up at the Supreme Court.


    • dayallaxeded says:

      Users of recreational drugs don’t need to be in jail. Those who commit real crimes, regardless of drug use, need to be in jail. Those who use drugs and thus fail to take care of themselves need to be left to their own devices. Long past time to let natural selection kick in once again. Same for states and localities–those who “legalize” pot or whatever will either prosper or not–it’s the kind of experimentation federalism was designed for.

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  11. Sentient says:

    This seems important. Comey proven to have leaked CLASSIFIED materials to Columbia Prof (en route to NYT)

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  12. Dora says:

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  13. angieunderground says:

    For the last several days I have been unable to access these posts, because the ad at the top keeps pulling me back to the top. The noise pollution is bad enough, but an ad that won’t let you read the posts? Does anyone else have this problem?


  14. DCBids says:

    I wonder if he ever heard any of the many books I read aloud to record for blind folks? I was told I have a very pleasant voice, so I volunteered to do a book….then another one….then…

    Don’t you just love hate-hoaxers?

    PS. If you read the comments there, they link back here and compliment SD. 🙂
    Go ahead and blush now SD, you deserve the praise. LOTS of time and effort you give this site.

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  15. BigMamaTEA says:

    “FEMA Corrects Course on Church Aid”

    FTA: …….”The agency changes its policy and will now allow houses of worship to apply for disaster relief funds.”………

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  16. dogsmaw says:

    Corrigan Police release details about Mickey Gilley accident

    I have followed Mickey since the night I met my aunt’s friend at a New Years Party back in ’70

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  18. Lucille says:

    On This Day in 1847, a Texas Ranger Walked Into Samuel Colt’s Shop and Said, Make Me a Six-Shooter
    Samuel Colt was a clever marketer as well as a talented inventor

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  19. Lucille says:

    Liberal Feminists’ Deafening Silence & Selective Outrage
    Tipping Point With Liz Wheeler on OAN

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  20. auscitizenmom says:

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  21. nikkichico7 says:

    Dear Lady and Gentlemen treepers here’s another amen

    Good night, God bless you

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  22. Blue Ridge Mts Va. says:

    All I can say about this video is there is no problem wasting cheap dirty Russian ammo as it jams and stovepipes in the guns I have fired.

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  23. Blue Ridge Mts Va. says:

    This article is also in Natural News. Curcumin works really well when combined with black pepper and extra virgin olive oil, get the non-GMO California Olive Ranch as it is not a fake like some of the other olive oils.

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  24. BigMamaTEA says:

    Okay Treepers………It is time to get prepared for the 2018 elections. If you will go to the following link you can find the dates for your primary and general in 2018. All states are different. If you’re not sure exactly…….go here:

    View by States (alphabetically) or Dates
    You can be more information from your local State Elections Board, or State Secretary of State.

    **I’m going to post this nightly for a while.

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    • nikkichico7 says:

      TY BigMamaTea ….. I want Debbie Stebenow it spit into the wind, literally plus the prospect of a ….. muzzie for governor!!? Dear Lord save us from the buttheads in Michigan and the Lord helps those who ….. 🤨👍😉🌹

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      • BigMamaTEA says:

        nikkichico…sounds like it’s time for you to get to work. Everybody has to take care of their States! The voter turnout nationwide for elections has been horrific IMO!

        And that’s the numbers from already registered voters! Time to start talking about GOTV in all States. Getting people to register. (Nikkichico – the moose limbs are doing this already, they’re going to overtake MI someday) Most states close registration some point before vote day. Not all, I know, but most do. (That’s where is are years of fraud are, same day voter registration! BAD!)

        Filings periods for those running for office also……the earliest primary is in MARCH!

        I start carrying voter registration forms in my car next month. I talk to people every where I go, if they’re not registered, I give them a form, and tell them to mail it in. (They can get them online here, but, handing them a card is one step closer to a new potential voter.)


      • nikkichico7 says:

        Um … not “it spit” but “to spit” 😃


  25. Blue Ridge Mts Va. says:

    Another Va. Citizens Defense League update. Of course, it is always a fight for gun owners.
    The 2018 General Assembly session starts on January 10, with VCDL Lobby Day on January 15. As of right now there are 19 anti-gun bills and 4 pro-gun bills. Both numbers will be increasing until the session starts, with a few more trickling in for a week or two after that.

    THE BAD/HORRIBLE (and more coming)

    Let’s take a look at what the anti-gunners (all Democrats so far) want to shove down your throats at this point. And no, nothing has happened in Virginia to justify any of these infringements:

    * Complete gutting for Virginia’s firearms preemption laws. Local government, based on the vote of typically 5 to 9 people on a City Council or a Board of Supervisors, can pass virtually unlimited gun control!

    * Bans on guns at parades, demonstrations, marches, protests, rallies, or similar events. Even VCDL rallies and protests could be affected by this law!

    * Bans on guns in public libraries and local government buildings – both of which would also affect VCDL meetings.

    * Firearm restraining orders that can strip you of all your guns based on a mere, uncontested statement of someone, without any due process or notification until the police show up at your door and point guns at you!

    * Bans on anything, such as a bump stock, that can make a semi-automatic firearm fire faster than it can be fired by an “unaided person.” This bill reaches way beyond just bump stocks.

    * Pre-school and child day care centers would become “gun-free zones,” just like K-12 schools! And what would happen to gun rights at churches that have pre-school or child day care facilities on their property?

    * Universal Background Checks. VCDL has been pushing gun owners to educate everyone on the evils and failures of that system. Here is a flyer to read and/or handout:

    * Making open carriers subject to extra scrutiny by police using the low and nebulous standard of “under the influence” if the police suspect the gun owner of having consumed even the tiniest amount of alcohol. A person with a low-alcohol level driving a vehicle would be considered to be OK, as courts tend to use a standard of “too impaired to drive safely,” while an open carrier could be charged, as the proposed law requires no proof that the person was actually impaired in any way. “Under the influence” is such a vague standard that any change whatsoever, from glassy eyes (to which some people are genetically disposed) to flushed skin or sweating, could be enough for you to be considered “under the influence!”

    * Penalizing gun owners if they don’t report a stolen gun fast enough. As if the gun owner hasn’t been penalized enough by the loss of his gun(s).

    * Prohibit online training to get a CHP. What about someone who has found themselves under a serious threat and needs to get a CHP ASAP? Where is there a problem with CHP holders who have had online training?

    * A civil fine of $50 would take away your gun rights for years! This is based around making possession of an ounce of marijuana a mere civil offense and not a crime. VCDL takes no position on marijuana legalization, but we do take a position on yet another way to strip a person of their gun rights – in this case for a mere civil penalty!

    * A gun owner is held liable for any crimes committed by a person he sells a gun to if that sale isn’t run through a dealer.

    * A parent must prove they gave specific permission for their child to possess a handgun or a semi-automatic rifle in their OWN home. Talk about Big Brother looking over your shoulder.

    THE GOOD (and more coming)

    * Constitutional concealed carry.

    * Tax break for purchase of a gun safe.

    * State Police prohibited from sharing CHP information with any state that does not honor Virginia CHPs.

    * Circuit Court to provide a mailed notice of approaching expiration of a CHP if email notice was not given.


    Lobby Day is Monday, January 15th at 8:00 AM at the General Assembly Building in Richmond. It’s a holiday, so street parking is free that day. You will be lobbying in teams (not a problem if you’ve never lobbied before, you will be part of a team and won’t necessarily even have to speak).

    The rally starts at 11 am at the Bell Tower in Capitol Square (same spot as in all previous years). Here are the speakers we currently have lined up (photos of the speakers are on the main page if you scroll down a little):

    * Dr. John Lott Jr – economist, political commentator, and gun-rights advocate

    * Elizabeth Baran – survivor of a brutal murder attempt by her ex-spouse

    * Senator Mark Peake

    * Senator Dick Black

    * Senator Bill Carrico

    * Delegate Dave LaRock

    * Delegate Brenda Pogge

    If you’ve been to Lobby Day before and can help as a team leader, please contact Executive Member Kenneth Van Wyk at:

    I hope to see all of you at Lobby Day!
    VA-ALERT is a project of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc.
    (VCDL). VCDL is an all-volunteer, non-partisan grassroots organization
    dedicated to defending the human rights of all Virginians. The Right to
    Keep and Bear Arms is a fundamental human right.
    VCDL web page: []


  26. BigMamaTEA says:


  27. dogsmaw says:

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  28. Memories……
    Remember ?
    You ‘member…….


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