Thursday October 12th – Open Thread

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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212 Responses to Thursday October 12th – Open Thread

  1. BigMamaTEA says:

    This morning the jury in Jessica’s murder trial is out viewing on-site locations. Apparently the trial is being held in another county 200 miles away.

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  2. Lburg says:

    Exclusive: Former West Point professor’s letter exposes corruption, cheating and failing standards

    “The following letter was written by retired LTC Robert M. Heffington as an open letter. Heffington was an assistant professor at West Point for several years, until this past August…..”

    “First and foremost, standards at West Point are nonexistent. They exist on paper, but nowhere else. The senior administration at West Point inexplicably refuses to enforce West Point’s publicly touted high standards on cadets, and, having picked up on this, cadets refuse to enforce standards on each other. The Superintendent refuses to enforce admissions standards or the cadet Honor Code, the Dean refuses to enforce academic standards, and the Commandant refuses to enforce standards of conduct and discipline. The end result is a sort of malaise that pervades the entire institution. Nothing matters anymore. Cadets know this, and it has given rise to a level of cadet arrogance and entitlement the likes of which West Point has never seen in its history.
    This brings me to the case of now-2LT Spenser Rapone. It is not at all surprising that the Academy turned a blind eye to his behavior and to his very public hatred of West Point, the Army, and this nation. I knew at the time I wrote that sworn statement in 2015 that he would go on to graduate. It is not so much that West Point’s leadership defends his views (Prof. Hosein did, however); it is that West Point’s senior leaders are infected with apathy: they simply do not want to deal with any problem, regardless of how grievous a violation of standards and/or discipline it may be. ”

    A worthwhile read:


    • canadacan says:

      How does VMI compare to West Point at this point


      • John Denney says:

        I was appalled when VMI students panicked and fled when attacked by a fellow student with a pistol. You’d think they would have organized an ambush behind a closed classroom door, so that when he came through he’d be crushed in the door by guys waiting behind the door and slamming it on him, while others used a desk for shield and battering ram, and others assault him with full water bottles and swinging backpacks full of water bottles and heavy books, or sticking pencils in his eyes and throat.
        You know, like warriors.


  3. smiley says:

    more fall-out from Las Vegas shooting…for legal-eagles and gun fans…

    Bump Stock Manufacturers Slapped With Class Action Lawsuit For Emotional Distress After Vegas Shooting

    Oct 11. 2017

    “bump stock” = a recoil capture device…

    “…a gun accessory which can replace the factory stock and grip of an assault rifle.”

    …more of this, in the article.


  4. reverence1 says:

    “Calm before the storm”-meme spills out to german MSM. Major daily newspaper “Welt” headlines in German on Catalonia: “Ruhe vor dem Sturm – was passiert mit Katalonien?” (Calm before the storm – what happens with Catalonia?).
    I am sure, President Trump has a very strong impact on all world regions. And I am also sure, this will turn things to the better.
    On the other hand, the news of the day was strong economic growth everywhere, German government changed its gowth forecast for 2017 from +1.5% to +2.0%, but … “insecurity about Trump” might be a risk ….
    So I don’t think, Merkel will be the leader of the freee world against Trump (as the media are still wishing), her biggest capability is to change according to what she perceives as a strong trend, so she will de facto align.
    Anyhow the next hurricane (Ophelia) is going to go direction europe (and we have nice warm weather due to this right now).

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    • Jim says:

      Amazing how a symbolic, cryptic statement can mean so many things to so many people all across the globe. They are probably all thinking, “Does he know what I have done? OMG, what do I do now?” From Hollywood to NFL to capitol hill to Europe to N. Korea, each one seems like a felon on the run waiting for the feds to break down the door any minute. Wonder how well they are all sleeping at night?


  5. smiley says:

    Justice for Jessica…

    Day 3 of the trial, in progress, with a recap of yesterday’s testimonies (Day 2) and opening stmts (Day 1)…

    watch trial, live…


    • smiley says:

      (actual trial proceedings temporarily paused while jury visits relevant sites in the town..

      …trial to resume “shortly” but some analysis & prior testimony might be running in the video.)


      • CC says:

        I missed the details here so did some research and found out what is publicly known on line….(I also had to look up the meaning of ‘mudshark…)…a troubled girl…maybe family dysfunction…poor choice of boyfriend…no one deserves to die in such a manner…again, am an old burn unit nurse who has taken care of similar victims…it breaks my heart.

        I smell a conspiracy among criminals…the defense trying to plant, deeply, “reasonable doubt”…the references to having to ask her multiple times as her voice was raspy and weak…so did “Eric” set her on fire or did he douse her with the gasoline…??? And how does Tillis fit in? And the mysterious “Aunt”….and her statements? Sometimes, I feel all we can do is pray for the young people today…and sometimes I feel our prayers are put on hold…I don’t know…I just hope the correct perps are the ones they have…

        I struggle with the American ideal of “justice for all”…and our Constitutional rights and that includes the perp…

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        • smiley says:

          so far, I’m a little mystified as to the prosecution’s witness testimony, so far…esp yesterday’s where he paraded one mumbling inarticulate witness after another saying Jessica said “Eric set her on fire”…only 2 of the witness he called actually indicated that it was very difficult to actually HEAR her.

          Champion never clarified her throat burns, mouh burns or her coherency/ alertness related to her gruesome burn injuries.

          maybe he’s just getting out in front of the defense’s fray (Eric did it= the ONLY thing they’ve got for “reasonable doubt), and wants to get this “Eric did it” thing outa the way before calling more expert witnesses on this.

          we’ll see.

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          • smiley says:

            typo…MOUTH burns…sorry.


          • smiley says:

            I’m kinda starting to wonder : DID “Eric” do it ???

            but there must be some very damning evidence on Tellis, still to come.

            pretty much circumstantial…except for that DNA on the car KEYS.

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            • smiley says:

              and the lying false ALIBIS.

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              • BigMamaTEA says:

                There is now a Doctor testifying with actual close up photos of Jessica. They have blanked out the screen and are broadcasting “audio only due to graphic content”


            • wondering999 says:

              Something that bugs me is that we aren’t discussing more details about another victim tied to Tellis: Ms. Hsaio, who apparently sold Lortab to Tellis, who tortured her slowly until she gave up her ATM pin number, then left her body to rot for several days.
              What bugs me the worst about this is that Tellis got married around the same time he tortured Ms. Hsaio to death, and that he looks after his wife’s little son (assuming Tellis is not the baby daddy?) Guys, whatever the reason for Tellis’ cruelty — and I would be money that he was raised with terrible brutality… he should not be in charge of anybody’s child, not even his own! Treepers (and Rush L) who oppose birth control, please consider an imaginary exercise — having your mom give you to Tellis for your babysitter?!!!
              Look at this, from the link:
              “The homicide allegedly took place on July 29, and her body was found Aug. 8. As authorities worked the death scene, Tellis was celebrating his wedding to Chikita Jackson….Jackson told police Tellis didn’t work but stayed home and watched her son. When he wasn’t doing that, she said, he was with her cousin, Eric Hill.”
              !!!!! Some people should not be around children. Even if their mom works and is desperate for a babysitter. Much as I disagree with NYC’s DiBlasio (and despise most of NYC’s public schools based on my own experiences there, brutal places) it is better to be in a government public preschool than in the hands of someone like Tellis. Think about it.


  6. PatriotGalNC says:

    The passing of another great WWII veteran:

    Rest in Peace.

    Liked by 1 person

  7. oldiadguy says:

    I posted a couple of days ago about the changes in regard to China and the PLA. The following are two recruitment videos. The first is a dated video showing old equipment and the singer does not seem to be very, “masculine” shall we say.

    The second is new recruitment video for their Armed Police. Note the similarities to our recruitment videos, the scenes from our action movies and at the end, the Band of Brothers theme. This video is much more masculine and aggressive with the latest equipment aimed at terrorism.

    A big change from the first video.

    Take Care and Stay Safe

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  8. Garrison Hall says:

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  9. Dora says:

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  10. Hurricane Weinstein continued: All this hoo-ha begs a question: If these feminist activists succeed in burying male producers and actors in kitty litter who will survive and continue churning out movie stars in Hollywood? Two possibilities:

    1) Ugly nasty dykes will become the new studio bosses and we will be blitzed with stanky hos like Lena Dunham, etc etc.


    2) Starlets will be forced to compete based on talent and beauty and not how many Kama Sutra tricks they can ply. This could lead to some really beautiful and elegant stars- like the golden days of Hollywood

    One can only hope……

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  11. JimmyJack says:

    I see it isn’t just me who is suspicious about “the fappening” being tied to the Weinstein scandal.


  12. duchess01 says:

    Ophelia is the 10th hurricane in a row. That hasn’t happened since 1893

    Miami Herald


  13. pacnwbel says:

    we had a dog many moons ago that ate bubble gum, it was enless as it extruded from the othef end.


    • Nikki/Chico says:

      Aw, poor boy/girl 😔 pacnwbel sorry to hear that but glad to hear they’re ok. Some dogs and cats ear anything. My cat Chico killed a cricket, ewww, found the body first and two of the legs later on, yuck. When he eats bugs the his appetite is off for a few days 😐

      God bless



  14. pacnwbel says:

    For some reason I have not been able to like or comment since September 22. I tried every which way to re register, reset the password and get back onto the e mailing of articles, suddenly today it is working . I could not find a way to contact WordPress, very frustrating, please don’t do that to me again, I love my little perch here on this fine tree.


    • BigMamaTEA says:

      pacnwbel……sometimes things just happen. We don’t know why. We assume it’s a WordPress issue. Sometimes when WP , either specifically the many threads here at the Tree, or maybe WP in general is kind of wonky.

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    • mztore says:

      I have had the same problem….When I tried to reset my password, it told me I have an invalid supplier…..sorry, that is my phone carrier….can’t change that. I can reply, but I’m stuck with that.

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  15. Lucille says:

    The European elite continue their suicidal willful ignorance. How did it come to the point where Western nations don’t have the least bit of survival instinct? Amazing! The old KGB disinformation campaigns against the West have worked beyond their wildest dreams. There was no recognition that there would come a time when their governmental leaders wished it had never begun as they’re being swallowed up, too.

    “Swiss government asked head of Islamic State jihad terror cell to work with Muslim migrants” October 11, 2017 7:30 PM by Robert Spencer

    “UK: Convicted London Tube jihad bomber’s accomplice hired as Labour Council ‘Poster Girl’.”
    October 12, 2017 8:57 AM by Christine Douglass-Williams

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  16. JC says:

    Received this prayer guide from the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association for those suffering in Las Vegas. Helpful for all who suffer.


  17. duchess01 says:

    Global Societies Moving at Exponential Speeds to One Destination!


  18. Lucille says:

    This is different anyway….
    “The Singing Frogs of Guadaloupe”

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  19. Lucille says:

    For Cursday….

    Senior Dogs Rescued from California Fires! Amazing Story
    Rocky Kanaka

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  20. duchess01 says:

    Evacuations widened as Northern California wildfires spread to 170,000 acres with at least 23 dead

    by Louis Sahagun, Paige St. John, Javier Panzar and Joel Rubin
    Los Angeles Times

    Liked by 1 person

  21. auscitizenmom says:

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    And, Lord, we pray for all the people who have been affected by the earthquakes and hurricanes.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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