October 12th – 2017 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #266

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996 Responses to October 12th – 2017 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #266

  1. citizen817 says:

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    • woohoowee says:

      This is such a crystal clear truth. Many Americans rely on newz broadcasts in a diligent effort to stay abreast of important matters. This being the case, Americans are entitled to no less than the true facts. Anything less is a grevious disservice to Americans sincerely attempting to fulfill a basic civic duty – staying informed.

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    • asawasa says:

      at the very least make them admit that they aren’t in the news business but just want people to tune in with sensational stories to increase their ad revenue.

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    • Jim says:

      When Rachel Maddow rose to number one in cable news, I knew with certainty that no one with any sense at all is watching cable anymore.

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    • StormyeyesC says:

      I have a plan. No more cable TV. Just the 3 networks like in the beginning. Free TV, no more paid cable. The networks each get 1 hour a day for news and no more. The need to create news comes from too many 24 hour news channels. When there are only the big 3 (NBC,CBS,ABC) they have to compete to break news stories, and they do real journalism.

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  4. citizen817 says:

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  5. citizen817 says:

    POTUS full interview
    w/ Hannity

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    • The only part I was disheartened by was POTUS’ answer on DACA. If I interpreted his response correctly, he will trade on this for the wall and border security. Personally I see this all as one issue. I am sorry but not all 800,000 are angels or deserve to stay here. They are all criminals IMHO.

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      • woohoowee says:

        Perhaps it’s Trump45’s opening negotiating position? He’s the best deal maker bar none 🙂

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      • WSB says:

        I still believe that whatever law the Congress attempts to enact will be found unconstitutional by SCOTUS. I believe the President has set up the Dims for failure.

        I suppose we will see.

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        • PatriotKate says:

          I doubt it, because the Constitution clearly allows Congress to determine immigration.

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          • WSB says:

            I have been reading about this recently, and we currently have a very muddy practice of naturalization and immigration, unrelated to the Constitution.

            Under the Constituion, Congress has the authority to “create a uniform rule of naturalization…”, thus, to bestow citizenship rights to legal aliens. The uniform rule was to keep individual states from determining their own criteria for whom to bestow citizenship rights.

            Naturalization is not the same as immigration, currently held by the authority of the President through the State Department. To determine who to actually let into the country or remove. This is the Mc Carren Act. However, all of these acts and laws have not necessarily followed the Constitution.

            If the Congress creates a special ununiform rule for the DACA class, they are in conflict with the Constitution and McCarren Act, which would need to be abridged somehow. I cannnot square how they would have the political heft to do that? Even if our President signs a bill into law, I expect there will be quite a few challenges filed.

            Additionally, with an originalist on the Supreme Court, I expect this issue to be blown wide open.

            http://www.heritage.org/constitution/#!/articles/1/essays/40/naturalization

            https://www.forbes.com/sites/danielfisher/2014/11/21/the-president-has-as-much-immigration-authority-as-congress-gives-him/#7239aec3251b

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      • gringz says:

        The way I see it, dreamers whether there is DACA or not would have and will be the lowest priority on deportation. It will take years just to deport all the criminals (those who have committed other crimes besides being here illegally) and there is really no way to deport t all illegals anyway (even if it is only 11 million, but I believe it is way higher than that) , so with everything he is asking for it will be well worth making that compromise to get the wall, and end to chain migration, lower legal immigration numbers etc etc etc.

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      • Sorry, but they are not all criminals. Some of them are of course, and we have deported some and should deport that ilk. But most were brought here unknowingly by their parents. The parents were the criminals, not the kids…..

        Most of these people know only one country……America. Many do not even speak Spanish. And regardless of what you see reported, they are just fairly typical Americans when you sort through the fluff and actually research this.

        I do not at all support the liberal position that all of these people and all their relatives and dogs and horses should be allowed in. Nor do I support the ultra right-wing position that every one of them should be deported just because we do not like people from that area.

        I fully support the Nationalist position on this as proposed by my President and written by the only fellow Nationalist left in the White House, Stephen Miller……

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        • Jim says:

          Great post. There is truth in what you say and I’m sure our President will find the best stance for America with what he finally decides.

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        • lawrencepaul1 says:

          That is not the Nationalist position and you know it.
          But nice try with the emotional blackmail thingy. That was a smart play.
          The “if you don’t agree then you are not a Nationalist” ploy may even work on some here.
          I doubt it though. We have had to deal with that sort pap from the left for so long that most of us see right through it.

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          • PDQ says:

            There are consequences…that is the hard reality of life. The corrupt parents need to apologize to their kids and the laws need to be enforced. What kind of household raises children to believe that breaking the law of is ok? What kinds of citizens will these kids be? Some have murdered…to me 1 murder by daca kids is too, too, too many.

            The corrupt government allowed all of this so the only conclusion would be to shrug the shoulders and say, “gosh, just let them stay”.

            Someone with guts needs to correct this.

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            • lawrencepaul1 says:

              I agree.
              I am on the opposite side of this to Chuck Schumer. As I am on just about every other issue.

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              • eagledriver50 says:

                It does NOT matter what the Dreamers want. Their parents brought them/had them here in this country ILLEGALLY and the price has been a burden around the necks of the taxpayers for a VERY long time. Leave and then get in line to come back. If you are a Dreamer, take a Dreamer number and when your turn comes up…attest that you are not a criminal (PROVEN), SPEAK/WRITE THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE OF HOST COUNTRY AND CAN PROVIDE FOR YOURSELF…then you get in. We have people out of work and who cities rotting from decay because of the bleeding hearts…Enough is Enough.

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                • lawrencepaul1 says:

                  Kids of criminals lose their homes when RICA takes their parents ill gotten gains.
                  What’s the difference?

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              • eagledriver50 says:

                lp1…Do me a favor…you apparently are trying to obfuscate what the real meaning of what this means TOO THIS COUNTRIES TAXPAYERS…Please go talk to a mother/father who have lost their children in wrecks/drugs/rapes and so forth. Deport ALL Dreamers and be done with it.

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              • Surely you do not think that Chuck Schumer supports this proposal–Chuck now wants to end chain migration and fully fund the wall? Hmmmm….. I don’t think so.

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          • I did not state that if you do not agree with this position one is not a Nationalist……This is America and we thrive on a diversity of opinion. I do not push group-think and your opinion is just as welcome as mine is……

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        • elleb77 says:

          Sorry, but the parents knew the consequences of their actions. Unfortunately, the children often suffer for the sins of the parents. They can go back and apply like everyone else. How is this fair to people who wait in line and play by the rules? Answer that question, and I’ll listen to this sympathy crap.

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          • Tom says:

            A lot of these “kids” arrived without parents at age 16+. Actually, a lot of them we are unable to verify their age, and they have only been here since Obummer invited them in. I would like to see the late arrivals deported; the ones here from a very young age can stay as long as they have committed no crimes and are productive citizens. If they are on welfare they can be deported also,.

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        • 813.52 says:

          “ . . . the ultra right-wing position that every one of them should be deported just because we do not like people from that area.”

          How about every one of them being deported because they have no right to be here. Period. Subtle racist accusation not appreciated.

          Where they come from, or what color they are is irrelevent. I would certainly never accuse you of being a troll, jerrydon, but . . .

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        • billygoat65 says:

          “Nor do I support the ultra right-wing position that every one of them should be deported just because we do not like people from that area.” That comment is absolute absurd deceitfulness, framed in a liberal mindset. The issue is amnesty, plain and simple AMNESTY!

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          • Giving priority to a group of people for citizenship, who are already here, who have fully assimilated–who are here through no fault of their own, who have done nothing wrong, who do not know any other countries other than America, while denying their relatives immigration via chain migration, while building a wall and deporting the other illegals is NOT AMNESTY no matter how you stretch it…….

            Your President is trying to offer a common sense solution to end this massive problem that we have struggled with for 30 years now……

            Don’t fight him–instead, become a part of the solution rather than taking a position that will perpetuate the problem……

            That positive attitude is called the art of the deal, my friend.

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      • Kaco says:

        Demographics is destiny. Watch out!

        The age range is too big, those that came between 8 and 15 can go home to their families.

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      • Trumppin says:

        PDJT can not come out of the gate with I will never approve DACA staying (weak positioning)… it would be the end of any negotiation. So he comes out with a sympathetic position to DACA (position of strength ) and in the end I suspect there will be many who stay and many who are criminals, do nothings that will be tossed out via “Extreme Vetting”.

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      • indiamaria2020 says:

        Trump ended DACA 5 September 2017. To date there has been ZERO action by the President or Congress to re-instate this ILLEGAL Executive order signed by Barack Obama.

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  6. citizen817 says:

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    • woohoowee says:

      But no mention of others who were attacked. Typical (D) politics. Well, really UniParty politics b/c the (R) half plays their role in racial politics as well.

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    • gringz says:

      The “victim” DeAndre Harris is also being charged. The following article will give you an idea of how the left wing media is spinning it. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/10/us/deandre-harris-charlottesville-charged.html
      I watched a lot of videos that day because I could tell by the articles posted the night before that this whole thing was a set up. I watched videos by both sides as well as the media videos. From what I can remember, when the “rally goers” were forced from the park into the waiting Antifa/BLM “counter protesters”, a bunch of “rally goers” were attacked by BLM, and fought back and BLM was loosing badly and ran away, all except for this one kid who they went after. Both sides were in the wrong , but it was BLM who started it.

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  9. citizen817 says:

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  10. sunnydaze says:

    This 17 y.o. kid who wants a career in acting/modeling was let go by his Agency when they found pro-Trump posts on his social media.

    I like his attitude tho. When asked if he’ll shut up about being a Conservative just so he can get a job, he says “No!”

    Looks like the “Days of Silence” may be over with the younger generation.

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  15. citizen817 says:

    Melania Rocks Grey Pants Suit As She Greets Prime Minister Justin Trudeau 

    Melania Trump looked drop dead gorgeous in a grey pinstripe pantsuit as she greeted Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and his wife Sophie Grégoire Trudeau at the White House Wednesday.

    The first lady made a simple pants suit look stunning as she greeted the Canadian leaders in the outfit that she paired with a white button up collar shirt. 

    She topped the fantastic look with a black tie that she left untied around her neck and black high heels.

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  16. citizen817 says:

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  17. Democrats – After 11 months of post-election contemplation, the Democratic Party still has no message other than “Trump is bad”, “the National Anthem is bad”, and “America’s flag is racist”. They have no new voices commanding their party and are instead relying on the ghosts of their past (Hillary, Pelosi, etc.) with an increased dependency on late night “comedians” because they have no other real platform of influence.

    The Media – After getting the last election so egregiously (and purposefully) wrong, the media has collectively spent exactly 0 minutes re-evaluating their standards moving forward and have, in many cases, actually gotten worse. They continue to make things up, skew actual news, and routinely get caught lying to the American public. Now President Trump is hinting at FCC license violations (and possible revocation), while the legacy media’s footprint of influence is decaying as more Americans switch to alternative sources for their news.

    Hollywood – Going all-in in the last election, Hollywood has alienated a massive portion of their customer base. People aren’t watching their movies, nobody cares about their award shows, and many are cutting the cord with regards to television. Now a massive scandal with potentially wide-ranging consequences to the structure, economy and political influence of Hollywood (and the media) threatens to dismantle it all together.

    Corporations – Multinational corporations are still powerful and engaged in active warfare with President Trump over NAFTA, tax reform, and immigration. However, their ability to influence culture has almost completely evaporated since the 2016 election. Today, companies are having to choose between profit and their left-wing anti-American politics. Those failing to make the right choice soon face the wrath of a now extremely motivated and patriotic American consumer… just ask Starbucks! 😉

    Professional Sports – Perhaps the greatest experiment by the left has been the NFL anthem controversy. The NFL willingly allowed their enterprise to be aggressively politicized with one of the left’s most overtly anti-American demonstrations. What has been the result? Massive losses in revenue, a decreasing fan base, and half-empty stadiums, and in the end they had to reverse their position in a fool-hardy attempt to stop the bleeding. They are toast.

    Silicon Valley – Liberals love censorship and, holding a monopoly in the tech industry, have enjoyed exercising it at their own discretion for quite sometime. While this is probably still their strongest remaining force of influence, it too is being eroded. This is extremely evident in Twitter’s lightening-fast reversal of the ban on Marsha Blackburn’s ad. There is also a growing anger among both left and right leaning YouTube publishers of YouTube actively de-monetizing conservative videos.

    Put it all together and the left is losing the Culture War.

    The Culture War is their necessary weapon to challenge the traditional values of society to advance their agenda. It is slowly being stripped from them right in front of their very eyes and they are TERRIFIED! Honestly, think back to this time last year, 2 years ago, 3 years ago… did you ever have think you would see the left losing their minds in such a panic? I certainly didn’t, and I must say that I find myself enjoying every single minute of it? 😛 #MoreWinning 😀

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  18. Troublemaker10 says:

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    • Linda says:

      I don’t understand this tweet. How is Bannon destroying the GOPe’s financial foundation?

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      • Linda says:

        I mean it seems like Bannon gets a lot of credit for things he didn’t actually do (like Pres. Trump’s platform and ideas, for instance).

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        • Bannon is spearheading the Trump revolution. He is the muscle……He is going state to state coming out, and campaigning against all incumbent GOPe candidates and taking them head on. He has convinced many GOPe donors to abandon McConnell and Carl Rove and to give to support MAGA candidates.

          Bannon is playing a key role in this revolution to take back our country from an oligarchy and to restore a government of, for, and by the people…..

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          • Kaco says:

            Except Ted Cruz! Bleh! Bannon’s a hypocrite.

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          • Trumppin says:

            Bannon is out to prove he’s the brains behind Trumpism.. That the movement isn’t Donald J Trump, that MAGA is a “Trumpism” that anyone can lead…
            when they did that they lost me as a supporter.

            Funding HIS revolution with the same GOPe money and secret backroom talks with NWO kissinger doesn’t say “WE THE PEOPLE” to me at all…. Bannon, Gorka, Cernovich, Coulder, Prosbiac #noobright #altright et al can go to hell as far as I am concerned

            I’ll stay true to the Trump Train.

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            • When did I say I was no longer true to the Trump Train? I did not. I support this President 100%.

              If you think Trump and Bannon are operating antithetical to one another, then I don’t think you quite get it…… You are watching the big ugly, as described and predicted on this forum many weeks ago, come into its full glory.

              I want MAGA candidates running against GOPe–I want GOPe exposed…..so does Bannon–So does PTrump….. And this is what is happening.

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              • Trumppin says:

                I never said anything about you – project much? Antithetical? I am not sure i would say that, pretty sure that is not what i said….. I think Bannon has already told everyone he’s out to prove he’s the brains not trump. And we know that bannon’s comments about being the MAGA brains bothered Trump and with in a week Bannon was exited from the WH. and PDJT has never said a word about Bannon since, he has not signaled any sort of support for Bannon or Gorka (nor has anyone in the administration) and their “MAGA coalition”.. in fact he purposely endorsed Strange in opposition to Bannon/Gorka. and if anyone is paying attention he has not retweeted Gorka once since his departure. He has not mentioned Gorka’s MAGA coalition at all either. I believe that means PDJT does not support it. but fake news sure loves to give these two lots of face time… that too me is very telling.

                One other thing, Bannon says he’s about the MAGA agenda but excludes Ted Cruz? Mr Amnesty & more Foreign workers & teddy bears for illegals NAU Ted Cruz
                All while getting eyeball deep with GOPe Money and NWO Kissinger….sorry I can never support the Bannon Train… not gullible or asleep.

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                • Bannon had nothing to do with the Kissinger meeting, to my knowledge. And he will not go against Ted Cruz, because Bannon is now back working at Breitbart, which is owned by the billionaire Mercer– who is a Cruzbot. Please remember that Mercer initially bought BB to get Ted Cruz elected….. I understand this.

                  I am NOT on the Bannon Train, I voted for, and still fully support PTrump.

                  What we as MAGA supporters have to do is to unite and understand that we are not one issue voters, I am not, and I am sure you are not either……

                  There are times that PTrump must compromise as there are three branches of government, all kind of factions within those branches and you cannot please 100% of everybody, 100% of the time, if you are going to actually govern this country.

                  MAGA people need to unite as a party, an unofficial party, but we are indeed a party. And every time Trump even talks about something that a MAGA supporter may disagree with, here comes all these posts criticizing the President–from his own party!

                  This is what the liberal Republicans do, people……and this is why you are watching them totally dead in the water and unable to govern…… This is because they are like spoiled babies–they all want their own way and they refuse to compromise which is the way a constitutional republic functions.

                  I encourage Treepers to stay away from the Republican ways and to fully unite behind our president and other MAGA supporters…… No I do not agree with Bannon and Gorka 100% of the time, but I can see that they are out recruiting MAGA candidates and pushing the MAGA agenda……. My friend, they are on your side, and yet you dis them?

                  Think about this post…… And let’s unite, MAGA supporters…..

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                • Trumppin says:

                  Do you remember the Tea party?… it got usurped and we got shafted because we allowed it to become co-opted. Bannon/Gorka are attempting to co-opt the Trump Train… I’m not jumping on that band wagon… my alliance is with PDJT and HIS #MAGA Only.

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                • So you actually do not want Bannon and Gorka out there going against incumbent GOPe Republicans state to state?

                  You do not want them exposing people like Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell and that gang and working hard to vote them out?

                  You really think it is not good that they are recruiting only people who appear to, and have publicly stated that they support the President’s agenda as candidates?

                  I want that swamp drained, my friend…..If Bannon and Gorka can get the Republican donors who supported McConnell and GOPe to switch to giving only to pro-Trump candidates (which they have) and if they can actively oppose these GOPe swamp dwellers in their home states so that they loe the primary (which they are), then I am not going to look a gift horse in the mouth…….

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                • Trumppin says:

                  if I thought that was all they were doing and PDJT gave them a public nod.. i’d be behind them 100% But he hasn’t and they have already said repeatedly that they are taking trumps maga movement over for themselves and that trump isn’t needed and other comments like the #MAGA presidency that we voted for is over and that PDJT is going to start ww3 etc..

                  some people are easily swayed but i assure you i am not one of them..so please save your time with me… you won’t convince me to back these two maga usurpers .. never gonna happen, I learned along time ago to trust my instincts and so far it never fails me.

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                • OK, but you also need to understand that Trump cannot give them the nod publicly. Do you really think he could let it be known that he wants every establishment Republican voted out of office? He would have even less support in congress than he does now……

                  Trump is behind this Bannon/Gorka stuff–It was announced before they left the White House……

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                • Trumppin says:

                  one more thing.. I’ll choose who i support based on merit and I will look to PDJT for his thoughts- not bannon or gorka’s fake maga movement .

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        • Lulu says:

          Funny that. Breitbart seems to be just a propaganda newsletter for how wonderful Bannon is. I think someone got a little too big for his britches. Vanity Fair is reporting Bannon said he gives Trump a 30 percent chance of finishing his term because of the 25th Amendment – I don’t like or trust Bannon.

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      • Maybe it is because Brannon is promoting GOPe positions and Trumps core is rejecting that by supporting Trump directly instead of the RNC.

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      • Troublemaker10 says:

        It’s because big GOP donors are moving to Bannon related PACs and candidates rather than support the GOP senate fund, etc..

        Gop, itself is raising good money because of Trump.

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        • citizen817 says:

          Our President saw fit to rid his administration of Bannon for reasons we may never know. I place my trust in President Trump.
          For whatever it’s worth, I don’t trust Mr Bannon or the Mercers, especially since Cruz is evidently still their guy.

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          • tom f says:

            Steve Bannon left the Administration to work on the outside…where he could more effectively continue to help President Trump.
            He even told us. We refuse to listen??
            Having trouble understanding the hate.
            Perfect is the enemy of good……..he’s not perfect, but he is good.
            Cruz is yesterdays news…….let it go.

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            • flova says:

              Well, in his interview with Hannity in late September Bannon laid out his game plan with the Moore’Strange primary as his opening move. I guess if Moore can win the election against the Dem we’ll know the tide has turned in getting rid of the GOPe..

              But I see Bannon as almost an elite in the Trump camp along with Ingram and Mark Levin who he always touts. His praise of Cruz in that interview is a real conundrum as Cruz is another phony conservative who has done nothing substantial since 2010–he’s part of the swamp.

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            • Trumppin says:

              BUT…….. YOU DIDN’T HEAR IT FROM TRUMP – PDJT has never acknowledge Bannon or Gorka’s talking points.
              and Cruz is not yesterdays news.. he’s still being pushed by
              fake news giving him the camera/mic every chance they get
              Bannon is still supporting him… Lyin Ted Cruz is still very much
              the GOPe pick for 2020 and 2024

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            • Yep, Cruz is yesterday’s news…….Will he run again? I hope so. We creamed him once and next time, with all his baggage out, we will annihilate him……

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  19. Nchadwick says:

    Those of you that do not like Steven Crowder should probably pass on this — but those that appreciate his humor – must see

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  20. How to pay for the Trump Tax Plan under the Congressionally-MANDATED STATIC SCORING

    ”STATIC SCORING” uses “currently-defined trajectories of outcomes produced by inputs”.
    • Congress defines “Spending Reduction” outcomes as reductions in the previous years’ RATE of INCREASE in Spending: Reducing a 4% rate of increase on $4 Trillion annually by 2 percentage points to a 2% rate of increase counts as a $80 BILLION SPENDING REDUCTION, even though SPENDING ACTUALLY went UP by $80 BILLION (instead of the trajectory increase of $160 BILLION).

    The Ryan-led House maintains that any Spending Bill must “pay for itself”, feigning concern over how Tax Reductions would impact Deficits and Debt.

    President Trump need only show know he is “paying for the Trump Agenda”, starting with Tax Reductions, by showing how the following will fund them:
    • Reductions in the $1 Trillion trajectory for annual deficits under Obama’s Republican Congress over the past 6 years … and the Democrat Congress that preceded it.
    • Additions of INCREMENTAL Tax Rate Reductions that are FORMULA-TRIGGERED by annual increases in Taxable Income, in order to flatline Tax Receipts at current levels.
    • Spending Reductions from his upcoming Healthcare EO that should flatline spending from the accelerating growth rate in ObamaCare costs.
    • Spending Reductions from reduced requirements for Regulatory Enforcement as 2 Regulations are rescinded for every Regulation added.
    • Increased Receipts from natural-resource extraction leases for oil, gas, coal and minerals.
    • Tax Windfalls from Repatriated Offshore Profits.
    • Etc.

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  21. JimmyJack says:

    I just watched this video someone linked on the Affleck post but I think it belongs here as well. Orwell is looking into and connecting Qatar, Clinton Foundation, the new Obama foundation, ISIS, the Saudis and Weinstein.

    This could be huge.

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  22. wolfmoon1776 says:

    Go to around 13 minutes in this and see how there was a HELICOPTER up over the shooting. Yes – you can hear it in many of the audios, AND it is visible in some of them.

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  23. wolfmoon1776 says:

    Go to around 13 minutes in this and see how there was a HELICOPTER up over the shooting. Yes – you can hear it in many of the audios, AND it is visible in some of them.

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    • wheatietoo says:

      You can see the helicopter better in the ‘Bus Stop Video’…and the video maker even mentions it.
      It was there hovering near the Mandalay while the shooting was going on.

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      • wolfmoon1776 says:

        One expert has posted a theory of helicopter gunfire that would explain some of the wounds asserted by friends of victims. One guy who had 3x chest strike cannot be explained by the bump-fire shooter – but he can be explained by the Deep State shooters witnessed by victims.

        We need leaks of medical! Families of victims need to post medical data – DETAILED MEDICAL DATA – so that we can FIND THE REAL KILLERS.

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      • wolfmoon1776 says:

        The one admission of medical data by a friend of a victim just broke open a huge crack in the Vegas story. I know that more data will blow it even wider. The authorities are LYING and it’s time to get the truth. We need to encourage victim families to PUBLISH the data about victims directly to the web. Post it on Twitter, Facebook, everywhere. REAL medical document photos even better.

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        • Grandma Covfefe says:

          Wolfmoon, I’m glad you are going down this line of thinking. We didn’t buy into the police/FBI theory, either. Way too many contradictions for a single shooter. It will be interesting to hear what and how they present the report at press tomorrow, if they follow thru with it.

          Hubbie had been curious to know what type of bullets these victims received. And what about those that died–how exactly did they die? We may never know as Deep State is still trying to control, as usual. Deep State is in the business of telling zero truth.

          Eph 6, The Armor of God, comes to mind daily for us.

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    • JohnP says:

      Flies all day and up to midnight if booked.
      Las Vegas Strip Helicopter Tour – $98.00
      After your VIP hotel pickup, relax with a glass of champagne before boarding your jet helicopter. This amazing journey of lights takes you past famous and historic Downtown Las Vegas and the towering 1,149′ tall Stratosphere Tower, to the billion dollar resorts of Bellagio, Caesars Palace, Mirage, Wynn, Encore, Mandalay Bay Resort and the brilliant light of the Luxor space beam.

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    • Chris says:

      Got it !
      TY

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  24. Nchadwick says:

    Given what we know now — looks like both halfs of the Affleck/Damon have ties to Clinton Foundation — wonder what happen to the 2 million that Damon advocates to go to Haiti??


    Matt Damon (left) and UAE TV personality Mohamed Parham Al Awadhi at the Clinton event in New York.


    Matt Damon @ Clinton Global Initiative Annual Meeting in NYC

    Barack Obama and Matt Damon address Bill Clinton-#39s Global Initiative 2009 News

    Cities as Labs of Innovation: Matt Damon and Gary White – CGI 2014 Annual Meeting

    THESE ARE OVER THE COURSE OF YEARS — 2008-2014

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    • keebler AC ovfefe says:

      Matt Damon is starting to resemble a greasy mammal. I was going to say, pig, but some pigs are cute. Anyhoo…Damon stars in some white nationalist psyop movie directed by his pal Mr. George Amal Clooney. Tomato rating is a 55% last I checked.

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    • wheatietoo says:

      I think it was the UAE that funded those anti-fracking documentaries and that anti-fracking movie that Matt Damon starred in.

      Makes sense that an Arab oil producing country would not want the US to get closer being ‘energy independent’.
      And liberal idiots like Matt Damon never stopped to contemplate Why the UAE was pouring money into that effort.

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    • Grandma Covfefe says:

      Bring it on, Hollywood. You are further proof you hate Americans.
      You all sicken the real American Patriots, but you will go down the drain. too.

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  25. Nchadwick says:

    Motives for Weinstein — with the Obama Foundation set up exactly like Clinton Foundation – 2.0

    This has a pretty good explanation of the take down of Weinstein – why now?

    It has nothing to do with “raised consciousness”—or else she wouldn’t have left off that list the one name obviously missing. It’s not about raised consciousness or else the Democratic party’s 2016 presidential campaign would not have been a year-long therapy session treating a repressed trauma victim with even its main slogan—“I’m with her”—referencing a muted plea for sympathy for a woman who’d been publicly shamed by a sexual predator.

    Which brings us, finally, to the other reason the Weinstein story came out now: Because the court over which Bill Clinton once presided, a court in which Weinstein was one part jester, one part exchequer, and one part executioner, no longer exists.

    A thought experiment: Would the Weinstein story have been published if Hillary Clinton had won the presidency? No, and not because he is a big Democratic fundraiser. It’s because if the story was published during the course of a Hillary Clinton presidency, it wouldn’t have really been about Harvey Weinstein. Harvey would have been seen as a proxy for the president’s husband and it would have embarrassed the president, the first female president.

    Bill Clinton offered get-out-of-jail-free cards to a whole army of sleazeballs, from Jeffrey Epstein to Harvey Weinstein to the foreign donors to the Clinton Global Initiative. The deal was simple: Pay up, genuflect, and get on with your existence. It was like a papacy selling indulgences, at the same time that everyone knew that the cardinals were up to no good.

    The 2016 election demolished Clinton world once and for all, to be replaced by the cult of Obama, an austere sect designated by their tailored hair shirts with Nehru collars. “That is not who we are as Americans,” they chant, as Harvey Weinstein’s ashes are scattered in the wind.

    FULL ARTICLE:
    http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-human-stain-why-the-harvey-weinstein-story-is-worse-than-you-think/article/2009995

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    • Jim says:

      Great article. Perspective is spot on. Once heard my sister, rabid progressive democrat, say about Bill Cosby, “His behavior went over the line, whereas Bill Clinton’s behavior was just his personal life.” I guess this will be just Mr. Weinstein’s personal life. Never ceases to amaze me just how brain washed these progressives are.

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  26. keebler AC ovfefe says:

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    • Kaco says:

      No, just like the Dems started the KKK, they also started the sexual revolution and further decadence and degeneracy with the aid of Hollywood so they had no one to stop this Weinstein character to begin with. If they had any morals, this would have been shamed and corrected a long time ago without the hysteria and SJW Stalinism. Gee, what do we know, we’re just regular Christian, monogamous people in flyover country.

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  27. keebler AC ovfefe says:

    (p.s. That is a parody Bannen account)

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    • Dogstar_K9 says:

      Although it was intended rhetorically, here’s what’s next:
      the continuous assault on every sense simultaneously. Like the last ditch efforts of a child who realizes he ISN’T going to get the toy.

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    • wolfmoon1776 says:

      We The People: “What’s next, Democrats?”

      Democrats: “I don’t know. We could always use the McCabe FBI and our Hollywood friends to help us orchestrate a mass murder of Trump supporters in Las Vegas.”

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  28. Lucille says:

    Supreme Court throws out appeals court ruling that struck down Trump’s previous temporary travel ban
    October 11, 2017 12:21 PM BY ROBERT SPENCER
    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/10/supreme-court-throws-out-appeals-court-ruling-that-struck-down-trumps-previous-temporary-travel-ban

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    • Kaco says:

      Wow so his first travel ban, the SC struck down the ruling? This is great news!

      Liked by 1 person

      • JohnP says:

        The money quote:
        “The justices were unanimous in deciding against ruling in the Maryland case, although one of the liberal justices, Sonia Sotomayor, noted that she would not have wiped out the appeals court ruling.”

        Times they are a changing.

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  29. Jim says:

    Remember when she was the darling of the Fox News Network?

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  30. nwtex says:

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    • Kaco says:

      Yes, I can see it would have been nipped in the bud then and there. Now it’s morphed into this. I had the misfortune of listening to that vile hate spiel from Eminem that someone yesterday linked to. Man, he’s a nasty piece of work.

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    • Abster says:

      I totally agree w President Trump. This should have never been allowed to happen.

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  31. Nchadwick says:

    In Arizona? Great

    Harvey Weinstein is headed to Arizona for rehab
    https://pagesix.com/2017/10/11/harvey-weinstein-is-headed-to-arizona-for-rehab/

    TMZ reported that it could be The Meadows, which has reportedly previously treated Tiger Woods – for sex addiction – Selena Gomez, for an undisclosed reason, and Kate Moss, after she was photographed snorting cocaine.

    The Meadows has programs to treat sex addiction and anger management, including one called Gentle Path – a 45 day inpatient program that deals with sex addiction issues with techniques including counseling, medication, yoga, and equine therapy – which Anthony Weiner famously sought after his fall from grace at a different rehab.

    So basically it is a country club vacation –more than a inpatient 12 step program — shocking!

    Also local media covered this
    http://www.12news.com/news/local/arizona/tmz-harvey-weinstein-in-arizona-for-sex-addiction-treatment/482652393

    The tail number of a plane that landed in Scottsdale matched the tail number TMZ cited in its report of Weinstein boarding a plane in California

    Sky 12 followed a vehicle we believe carried Weinstein from the Scottsdale airport to the Phoenician resort in Scottsdale, where a man resembling Weinstein got out and entered a villa.

    Ahhh looks like Weinstein is struggling — staying at the Phoenician Villa’s — costing between 1200-1500/night… puke

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  32. Nchadwick says:

    It doesn’t seem to get more ridiculous:

    Harvey Weinstein’s wife is leaning on Huma Abedin
    https://pagesix.com/2017/10/11/harvey-weinsteins-wife-is-leaning-on-huma-abedin/

    Chapman and Abedin, Hillary Clinton’s top aide, have known each other for some time because of Weinstein’s numerous fund-raising events for the former presidential hopeful. Plus, the Clintons rented a Hamptons house next door to Weinstein and Chapman’s Amagansett estate for three summers.

    A source close to Chapman said, “One of the people Georgina has reached out to is Huma, who has been through this kind of scandal and media storm, and survived with her dignity intact. They are both mothers, they have both been in a situation where their husbands turned out to be a different person than the man they thought they knew.”

    The source added that while they first met through Weinstein, Abedin did go to Chapman’s daughter’s birthday party in the Hamptons this summer, and they have remained in contact.

    OH GAWD…..

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  33. Peter says:

    Vegas – I posted this in last nights string…things that make you go hummm – Sherrif changes story about when guard was shot – completely editing the timeline – but we are all focused on the Weinstein / next shiny light – who has the puppet strings?

    Call me a loon…IDK. This is the only guy that makes any sense to me – only one

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  34. lawrencepaul1 says:

    So the government and Neocons over at the WSJ may have been lying. Color me Scocked.

    Germany Says It Found “No Evidence” Kaspersky Helped Russia Spy On US
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-11/germany-says-it-found-no-evidence-kaspersky-helped-russia-spy-us

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    • RAC says:

      Something like a couple of months ago I read an article about Kapersky, just skipped through as it wasn’t really relevant I thought. My memory is dreadful and am hesitant to rely on what bits I can recall, neither can I find the article again. However IMO this stuff about Kapersky is in retaliation for something they found and started blocking with their AV and it has upset some people.

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      • eagledriver50 says:

        Now you are talkin’…I have been using Kaspersky since it came out and HOW I found out about it was being on a Hacker Website…Funny that. Anyway, I started using it and the software started finding things that didn’t make any sense in the way the Windows OS was working. THEY WERE DLLs… The ONLY way a DLL loads is through a front-loading mechanism, like Explorer. And YEP…that is what it was…Started with Google and found out that Google was tracking and Ended with Firefox. FF DOES NOT TRACK YOU!!! And that is where I am. BTW…the reason the Pentagon doesn’t want this on their computers is due to the what was being found by Kaspersky. Now the Pentagon/DOD wants to do away with them…Me thinks something is going on and it is not very nice to McAffee (HOG), Anti-Virus and Symmantic (HOG) also.

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  35. starfcker says:

    Sundance, I have a big request. Lay out the tax proposals as Cohn and Muhlveny have proposed. I don’t like it, but there is a lot of pushback around here from people who I don’t believe quite grasp the facts. I am willing to be dead wrong, but I don’t think I am. Is this tax proposal a recipe for electoral disaster? Does the globalist uni-party win it all on this issue, without giving up anything? I know nothing is final. I know the corporate parts of tax reform are very important. But I don’t think they can stand alone, without alienating a LOT of swing state voters. Am I crazy? Help.

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  36. lawrencepaul1 says:

    They will be begging for a border wall some day. Just wait until they can no longer offset their state taxes against federal taxes and have to actually pay for the way they vote. All those with money will flee Blue States like California. Interesting times.

    San Diego’s Deadly Hepatitis A Outbreak Turns “Statewide Epidemic” As “Outbreak Could Last Years”
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-09/san-diegos-deadly-hepatitis-outbreak-turns-statewide-epidemic-outbreak-could-last-ye

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    • starfcker says:

      Lp, let’s look at this a little harder. The states that put Trump over the top, Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania, are red states right now. They tax the hell out of their residents. Other than Ohio, Trump’s margin was razor thin in those states. They voted for Trump expecting tax relief. If they don’t get it, they will revolt. People live where their source of income is. They are not endlessly and easily mobile as the media would lead you to believe. They have roots. How did this thing get so far off the rails? This is the worst policy proposal I have seen from Trump, which doubly sucks because his original plan was so good. This isn’t winning. This is an ass whooping. Big business, the ultra wealthy, this is a home run. Obama’s pampered grifters, can’t believe their good fortune. I’m in shock at how nakedly brazen this heist is, and how dishonest the pitch has been.

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      • lawrencepaul1 says:

        But taxpayers in fiscally responsible red states should not foot the bill for those that choose to live in bankrupt blue states. If you vote for the people and policies that bankrupt your state then you should pay for them.
        Shoving those costs over to federal tax payers raises the taxes of all federal tax payers that choose to live in fiscally responsible states.
        This tax bill is a dogs dinner I give you that. But not for this reason. It would be a very simple thing to lessen the tax burden on middle class Americans but if you put Goldman banker in charge of your financial team you get Goldman economic policy. We will see how it all pans out.

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      • Publius2016 says:

        The main reason state/local taxes are eliminated is to provide the necessary debt numbers to pass bill on simple majority…MAGA will require that the coasts get tax relief too…it’s negotiation due to RINOs, Nevertrumpers and Dems.

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      • StormyeyesC says:

        with the federal cuts, they will still see a net improvement

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    • JohnP says:

      Immigrants bring a rich culture to California…..
      California, who does the killing (2016): 42.8 percent of homicide arrestees were Hispanic, 27.8 percent were black, 20.7 percent were white, and 8.6 percent were of other race/ethnic groups.

      The arrest rate for homicides in California is a dismal 4.7%. That’s right, if you kill someone in California you have a 95.3% chance of getting away with it (2014).
      (For reference the arrest rate for Chicago is 12.2%)

      https://openjustice.doj.ca.gov/downloads/pdfs/hm16.pdf

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    • QUARANTINE CALIFORNIA as a HEPATITIS SANCTUARY STATE.

      RE San Diego’s Deadly Hepatitis A Outbreak Turns “Statewide Epidemic” As “Outbreak Could Last Years”

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  37. 4beagles says:

    It will be interesting when the sanctuary state legislation goes into law on Jan 1st. 2018.
    Next fall they might be voting on a “Calexit” .

    https://www.amren.com/news/2017/07/california-independence-one-step-closer-ag-paves-way-potential-2018-referendum/

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  38. A2 says:

    I will have a bit of rant here. Bannon and BB are trying to sell him as a ‘China expert’ as referenced by that ludicrous article they posted essentially saying he is instructing Henry Kissinger, who is at his feet and imbibing his views on China.

    It is now revealed he has had several meetings with Guo Wengui (a person not noted here, though many of us have followed his story, on 10 October) a high flyer and millionaire who is trying to get asylum in the US and is threatening to reveal ‘secrets’ of the Chinese leadership. He even joined Mar-a-Lago to attempt to cosy up to the President to that end. Unfortunately, even those who are sympathetic with exposing the Chinese leadership ( he does not claim any exposé about Xi Jinping lol) say they cannot verify any of his claims.

    The tweet and photos of the two meeting
    半年来班农先生一直与我通过朋友有联系.但始终未能见面!10月5日华盛顿记者会后.我请杨建利先生Billl与我一起在我的房间与班农先生一起午餐!我们都无比激动高兴!今天10月10日班农先生又与团队到纽约我的家一同了3个半小时晚餐!我经他及他的团队同意向我的推友发这个些照片!
    pic.twitter.com/6VL8gjBL0V

    My concern is that in the lead up to the President’s visit to China in November, Bannon is positioning himself to attack the President on any substantive moves made with Xi. This is dangerous and counterproductive, I am no fan of Xi or China’s communist party, but I sense a Bannon strategy to demean anything the President does, to advance his, as I now believe twisted agenda. And it isn’t America First.

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  39. lawrencepaul1 says:

    Hmm? I wonder?

    FBI Reportedly Investigating Harvey Weinstein
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-11/fbi-reportedly-investigating-harvey-weinstein

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  40. A2 says:

    I have a further rant by all those who think that China is moving away from Marxism-Leninism.
    Liu Qibao, a member of the Political Bureau of the CPC Central Committee and head of the Publicity Department of the CPC Central Committee, spoke at a symposium held on September 26 in Beijing to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the October Revolution 【在“十月革命与中国特色社会主义”理论研讨会上的讲话 】

    Since the 18th CPC National Congress, General Secretary Xi Jinping has put forth a series of new visions, thinkings, and strategies for the governance of China in the country’s great endeavors to advance reform and opening up and develop socialist modernization. These visions, thinkings and strategies have upheld and developed Marxism-Leninism, Mao Zedong Thought, Deng Xiaoping Theory, the Three Represents, and the Scientific Outlook on Development, and they have also deepened the CPC’s understanding of the laws of governance by the Communist Party, the laws of building socialism, and the laws of the development of the human society. In China’s historical endeavors to realize its “two centenary goals” and fulfill national renewal, the most practical and important way of adhering to Marxism is to follow the principles from General Secretary Xi Jinping’s major addresses and his new visions, thinkings, and strategies for the governance of China…

    This isn’t just boilerplate. Actions by Xi, on party discipline, embedding party secretaries in universities and private businesses, elimination of his rivals in civil and military posts is evidence.

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    • A2 says:

      I forgot to ass the rest of Liu’s speech:

      Since the 18th National Congress of the Communist Party of China (CPC), the CPC Central Committee with Comrade Xi Jinping at its core, upholding the ideological and intellectual banner, has stressed that the firm ideals and convictions should always be the fundamentals of communists, and should be placed well above all else. Wavering from ideals or lacking in convictions is the most dangerous. Communists should take enough “spiritual calcium” to strengthen their minds so that they can consciously resist corruption by decadent ideas. The CPC Central Committee has also stressed that socialism with Chinese characteristics is socialism and not any other doctrine. The basic principles of scientific socialism cannot be discarded, or it would not be socialism. Our current efforts and the sustained efforts of the future generations are aimed towards the ultimate goal of the realization of communism. The whole Party should have strong political staunchness in ideals and convictions, consciously become firm believers and faithful practitioners of the exalted ideal of communism

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    • lawrencepaul1 says:

      China moved from Marxism to Fascism a long time ago. They still have all the trappings of there former communist/Marxist past but they now have a centralized fascist system (fascism as described by Mussolini at least) in all but name. You can now become extremely rich in China, providing of course that you win the approval of the right government bureaucrats.

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  41. 4beagles says:

    It’s no surprise to find out that the nfl is now one of the most divisive brands. There are some very telling graphs in the article.

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  42. A2 says:

    “Chinese Research Vessel Surveys Caroline Islands ‘to Breach 2nd Island Chain’
    Hydrographic surveys near Guam prompted surveillance by U.S. planes.”

    “The Carolines, located about 300 to 400 miles southeast of Guam and the Marianas islands – home to major U.S. air force and submarine bases – have expansive underwater trenches and mountain ranges the U.S. military’s interest came to light in interviews the lead researcher gave the South China Morning Post last week. The surveys are the latest in a pattern of Chinese hydrographic research in strategic waters critical for submarine operations beyond the first island chain.”

    https://thediplomat.com/2017/10/chinese-research-vessel-surveys-caroline-islands-to-breach-2nd-island-chain/

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  43. Jim says:

    Always fun to go back a year and check headlines. From 10/12/2016:
    Trump Declares War on GOP after Paul Ryan says will no longer campaign for him.
    Trump tweets: So nice the shackles have been taken off and I can now fight for America the way I want to. Also tweets: Disloyal R’s are far more difficult than Crooked Hillary. They come at you from all sides.
    Sheriff Joe Arpaio faces jail time for criminal contempt of court.
    Clinton State Dept. prioritized “Friends of Bill” in 2010 Haiti Earthquake Contracts.
    And my favorite :
    Al Gore campaigns for Clinton. Says elections have consequences.

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  44. Dora says:

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  45. StanH says:

    As our great president begins the push for tax reform he needs our help. This is an existential threat to the swamp. Like Barrycare taxes are power, and the power is what the swamp critters crave. We have many problems in the Republican Party, but four specific senate problems, McCain /Arizona, Collins/ Maine, Murkowski /Alaska, Paul/ Kentucky. If you don’t live in these states grab your swamp critters by the collar letting them know that their cushy position will also be in jeopardy, perhaps they’ll apply appropriate pressure on the “Sleazy Four.” This is an uphill battle at best, stay involved, steely eyed, and keep the pressure on. We have the swamp flushed out, more and more each day, simply stay the course follow and support our great president, and “We the People” win.

    MAGA!!!

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