Steve Wynn Was Right – Las Vegas Shooter Used Mandalay Bay Freight Elevator…

During an interview on Sunday casino, hotel and resort billionaire Steve Wynn was describing some insider trade talk about the Mandalay Bay Massacre.  During the interview Wynn inadvertently mentioned shooter Stephen Paddock using the “service elevators” and how Wynn’s internal security measures would never allow that to happen.

Asked for clarification, Mr. Wynn quickly demurred.  However, CBS is now reporting that Stephen Paddock did in fact use the freight elevator at the Mandalay Hotel and Casino:

Las Vegas – Law enforcement sources told CBS News that Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock is believed to have used the freight elevator at the Mandalay Bay hotel casino in the days leading up to last week’s deadly attack.

It wasn’t clear what Paddock used the freight elevator for or how often he used it.

CBS News senior investigative producer Pat Milton reports authorities were continuing to comb through Paddock’s electronic devices — including a laptop and cellphone — at the FBI crime lab in Quantico, Virginia. So far, none of the devices point to a motive for the shooting rampage.

[…]  The FBI has more than 50 agents and personnel on site assisting Las Vegas police with evidence recovery, interviews and other investigative work.

During a news conference on Monday, authorities made a significant change to the timeline of the mass shooting, saying Paddock shot a hotel security guard before he opened fire on concert-goers.

Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo had previously said the guard was shot after Paddock fired at the country music festival and that the guard’s arrival in the hallway on the 32nd floor may have caused Paddock to stop firing.

It was not immediately clear why the timeline of the shooting changed a week later and what the impact could be on the investigation.

Lombardo said security guard Jesus Campos was in a hallway of the hotel responding to a report of an open door when he heard drilling from Paddock’s room. Paddock, who had installed three cameras to monitor the approach to his suite, opened fire through the door, spraying 200 shots down the hall and wounding the guard, who alerted other security officials.  (read more)

Now that we know Steve Wynn was, in fact, speaking on Sunday while holding insider information (as suspected), it might be worth re-listening to his assertions:

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And yes, in addition to Wynn noting Mr. Paddock and Ms. Danley never drank alcohol, CTH noticed that same thing within discovered pictures of them a few days after the shooting.  Everyone drinking water.

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845 Responses to Steve Wynn Was Right – Las Vegas Shooter Used Mandalay Bay Freight Elevator…

  1. Cmcc2 says:

    Why is everyone not seeing the ovbious?

    Then Jesus “Jose” Campos? Is there a Mexican Cartel MS-13 connection?
    http://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/national/ms13-members-say-immigration-policy-is-making-gang-stronger/777361193
    http://www.lasvegasnow.com/search?q=mS-13

    It sure seems funny that immediately after I posted my question and theories on 4 chan that this article came out within the hour ( if my timestamps are correct).

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/posteverything/wp/2017/10/11/dont-believe-the-trump-administration-ms-13-is-not-ravaging-the-united-states/

    Here is their latest bust http://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/26-arrested-in-sweep-against-violent-gang-ms13/81893400

    Remember Bruce is a known drug dealer. Tell me what you think?

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    • georgiafl says:

      Islamic cartels and Mexican, South/Central American cartels are aligned. Hence all the beheadings, crucifixions and other atrocities by these monsters….and the rapes, pedophilia, human trafficking. Islam is evil, Evil, EVIL. Always has been, always will be.

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    • Bob Thoms says:

      Latest bust? Quit with the dis-information. That LA bust of MS 13 was ten years ago – November 2007.

      http://www.foxnews.com/story/2007/11/15/fbi-arrests-26-ms-13-gang-members-in-multistate-sweep.html

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      • Cmcc2. says:

        You are 100% correct. When I am wrong I say that I am wrong. That was a bad link for their latest ice arrest. I am researching with a sick child that has kept me up with a fever for over 24 hrs. I am the type of person who must understand the psychological profile, and I finally have a connection that makes since to me. With his brother being in drugs it is not a far reach for me to believe that he was somehow protecting his brother. Possibly laundering Cartel money, and being a straw for the gun deal.
        If it wasn’t for the fact that they were run of the mill standard weaponry then I would think that you were right there could be more of an Isis connection. However the here is no tangible Isis connection ( that hasn’t been erased) that anyone has found.

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        • LULU says:

          Sorry about your child. Time to slow down. No need to rush to find anything. And no need to carelessly put out bad information that could go viral if someone didn’t find that it was seriously out of date. Slow down.

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    • Ziiggii says:

      WHY are you posting the same damn thing under 2 different names?

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  2. andi lee says:

    Employee breakroom was on the “upper” roof. There were MB employees located there, per scanner.

    Curious to know what the security guard Campos was doing, besides hanging about the elevator, while Paddock was wrecking havoc.

    There were multiple MB reported floors, two for sure, 29 & 32, shots fired. Police cleared floor by floor up to 32, via, scanner, reportedly, security guard on floor 32, shot in the leg and standing by the elevator.

    So, what did Campos do for 15+/- minutes? Was blood found in the rooftop employee breakroom?

    Witness from the Delano (?) Hotel (has connecting walkway w/MB). Witnessed Police & security guards shooting at someone at ground level.

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    • andi lee says:

      The first seconds of this video shows an officer hoovering over, picking an object up while military personnel looks on.

      I’ve seen claims & speculation it is a drone, with weapon attached.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      Most of my questions center about Campos, I wish the authorities or an attorney would speak about him. I want to know what he did between 9:59pm and 10:18pm. Did he have a radio? Did he call someone to report that he’d been shot? At 10:05 when he heard Paddock firing but the bullets weren’t coming down the hallway, did he escape the hallway, and if so then where did he go? The timelines I’ve seen say police “found him” or “met him” on the 32nd floor at 10:18, had he remained on the floor the entire time? Does anyone know how badly injured he was? Was he able to walk?

      The rest of my questions center around Marilou Danley which basically boil down to this one: Did she know Paddock was planning a massacre?

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      • Howie says:

        Don’t worry The FBI is on the case…

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      • Howie says:

        The Las Vegas Sheriff is helping them.

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        • Bob Thoms says:

          I hear the FBI interviewed Campos for 2 hours; mostly about his golf game and his grand kids……and they didn’t take notes or record the interview………….just saying.

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        • 4sure says:

          Here’s the deal re. the FBI.

          The FBI does not have the experience or the competence to investigate anything except white collar crime. Metro PD officers from large agencies deal with felons and criminals who commit murder, rape, serious assaults, shootings, burglaries, robberies, child abuse, etc. on an hourly basis. They secure crime scenes on an hourly basis. They process crime scenes on an hourly basis. They interview/interrogate witnesses/suspects on an hourly basis. Day in and day out, they do these things. They secure search warrants on a daily basis. They secure warrants on a daily basis. They go to court on a weekly basis. In short, they do on a daily basis what the average FBI agent does not do once a year or once in 20 years.

          The average FBI agent has no investigative skills in regards to felons who commit anything not “victimless” white collar crimes. because they do not deal with it. They have no experience in interviewing victims of physical violence.

          They use paid informants to get what info. they do get. Paid informants who mostly feed them a line of BS and just enough info to be half true. The FBI is a go’vt. agency and is just as incompetent as are all fed. gov’t. agencies. When the FBI is involved in an ongoing “street” crime type situation they generally over react and screw it up. Ruby Ridge, Waco,
          LaVoy Finicum murder, Boston Marathon shooting where they used gestapo tactics to illegally search and detain people in their own homes. And, in the end, it was a private citizen who located the suspect they were looking for.

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        • brh82 says:

          Howie, you are just plain priceless. Thanks for this badly needed intermission!

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      • jakeandcrew says:

        Watch the video interview of the maintenance man on the previous page near the bottom. I’d put the link here, but my computer is acting up terrible, and I can’t get to it at the moment. It’s an NBC video, I think – can’t remember who posted it.

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    • Truthfilter says:

      Why would they smell gun powder in the lobby if the only shooter is on the 32nd floor of Mandalay Bay which is behind the hotel in this video?

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    • ackbarsays says:

      Here’s the rest of that video. On close analysis, it looks to me like it’s some kind of weapons belt that the officer is preparing to wear around his waist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNK3e9r3-9Y

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    • Old Lady says:

      I don’t know what Campos was doing after he was supposedly shot. I know what I would do if I was shot, call 911.

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      • Gary says:

        I wonder if he was allowed to have his personal cell on him, may only have had his radio. Bad optics to have employees eyeballing their facebook on the job.

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  3. Bob Thoms says:

    Campos hiding out makes no sense. If he is the innocent first-man on the scene to encounter the shooter he would normally be all over the interview circuit with paid bookings by CNN, MSNBC, Fox et al. In fact, he would probably have at least a six figure book deal by now. $$$$$

    The fact he is still in seclusion tells me there is more to his involvement in the story – fake time line and other details – than we think.

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  4. G. Combs says:

    Jesus Campos left alive is beyond strange…

    Unless he was wounded and then given an offer he could not refuse. Keep his mouth shut and barricade the stairwell after they left heading up stairs. Or take them up on the freight elevator.
    [If he called down and gave a garbled all clear, this would explain why the Cops didn’t know about him until they found him on the 32nd floor.]

    ‘They’ quite easily could have offed Paddock in front of Campos to make their point clear.

    If the shooting was only ten minutes or so and Paddock found dead ~75 minutes AFTER the shooting started, who would know when he died?

    Didn’t the shooting start with like three of four single shot rounds?
    ….
    MORE THAN ONE SHOOTER:
    ….
    A more likely story is Jesus Campos is sent up because of the broken window alarm going off. If an alarm went off when the windows were broken, that would explain the security guard AND maintenance man!
    Campos does not knock, as was said by Sheriff Lombardo.
    He is shocked to see the weapons and sniper nest. He turns and runs. One of the snipers downs him with a shot to the thigh. The sniper has a short nasty talk with Campo who then is left at the elevators to warn off everyone else.
    Campo also would be aware via his security contacts as to when the cops arrive and what they are doing. He warns the snipers who leave, either by the stairwell or by the freight elevator using Campos card. (More likely the stairwell because the elevators would probably be stopped.)

    Remember we only have the word of the FBI that the stairwell was blocked by the sniper[s] and the FBI has certainly protected the Saudis from any ’embarrassment’ before, like personally escorting them out of the country after 9/11.

    Saving the Saudis – Vanity Fair
    “Just days after 9/11, wealthy Saudi Arabians, including members of the bin Laden family, were whisked out of the U.S. on private jets. No one will admit to clearing the flights, and the passengers weren’t questioned. Did the Bush family’s long relationship with the Saudis help make it happen?…”

    • Bob Thoms says:

      Why let Campos live? There is no reason to let him live another day to tell the story. NO REASON.

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      • Bob Thoms says:

        Unless he is in on it and he had documented proof on the involvement of others – “kill me and the details of everyone’s involvement is in the mail to the FBI”

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      • ray76 says:

        Suppose this was an ATF (or other agency) sting gone bad. Suppose Compos is Paddock’s handler.

        Compos is central.

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      • georgiafl says:

        Campos could be a son of important cartel figure, just learnin’ the ropes.

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        • Oncefired says:

          Can’t forget that the upper floors were occupied by the Four Seasons, which is now Saudi Owned, stair right outside of the suite, additional shooters could have had time to scurry up to the Four Season Floors to disappear

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      • Scoot4444 says:

        Why did he shoot 200 times through the door? Wouldn’t you open the door and shoot once? One shot would draw less attention than 200. Perhaps the security guard was in on it, shoot him once giving him a flesh wound, shoot 200 rounds through the door and then the security guard hangs around telling everyone there’s a madman in that room shooting through the door. That would buy lots of time for the shooter.

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        • covfefe999 says:

          Maybe 200 because Paddock had his fake-auto rifle in hand because he was preparing to open fire on the concert crowd. By this time anyone who was ready to do what he did could be considered irrational. He didn’t even open the hotel room door, just fired through it. Campos probably lay still and eventually Paddock thought he was dead until he saw maintenance guy and started firing again. That’s my take at the moment based on current info.

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    • distracted2 says:

      Watch this new interview of the maintenance man. Was given this morning. Clears up some things. And reinforces others. It’s NBC but the kid does all of the talking.
      https://www.today.com/news/las-vegas-hotel-workers-took-cover-hallway-after-gunman-opened-t117342

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      • Risasi says:

        Very interesting. This explains the lack of bullet holes to be seen in pictures of the hallway, and how Campos could have escaped.

        It sounds like the building maintenance guy offered distraction and pulled some of the heat off of Campos. It appears there is only one long hallway according to the diagrams I have seen. http://vegastripping.com/features/feature.php?feature_id=259&page=2

        If people being shot at were ducking in behind the nooks to each apartment room that also might explain how 200 rounds were fired into the interior of the hotel…and the reservation of the responding officers to just rush the suite. That hallway would be a turkey shoot.

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      • Q&A says:

        Striking to me that Campos called out “Take cover” to the maintenance guy, Stephen. Seems “take cover” is more of a law enforcement or military term. I know Campos was security, but did he have a military background? Campos was also clearly watching out for his fellow man, so it seems he is white hat. The maintenance guy was clearly appreciative for Campos saving his life.

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        • AdamSelene says:

          I think everyone knows what “take cover” means. Certainly any man who’s ever watched a war movie or played Call of Duty, which is basically all men.

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          • Q&A says:

            I know what “take cover” means (duh), but I was referring to the use of the phrase in real life circumstances. My dad was in 3 wars and I’ve never heard him tell us to “take cover.” He’d say “get back” or “get out of the way”, etc. He loves to watch war movies, but doesn’t play video games so maybe that’s the influence.

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        • chick20112011 says:

          Quite a few “Jesus Campos” listed in LV area. Several have FB. One looks to be 30 or so and he’s pictured with a pistol.

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        • distracted2 says:

          I think you should watch it again. “Take cover” is a phrase that Stephen used over and over again during the interview so I don’t know that we can say with certainty that Campos used those words to warn him.

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  5. georgiafl says:

    One would imagine there is rampant drug use and drug dealing in Vegas – and – thus the cartels are embedded there. Islamists dominate drug, human and p0rn trafficking world-wide. This would mean heavy infiltration of Islamist cartels in Vegas.

    My anger about those who allow this evil to penetrate our country and government – is so COLD would freeze and explode an elephant 5 miles away.

    SSSssshhhrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

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    • Bob Thoms says:

      And money laundering schemes……………24/7 money laundering.

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      • G. Combs says:

        Speaking of money laundering….

        Paddock was known to always be cozying up to prostitutes. Who owns the prostitutes? The same people who do the drug trafficking. Prostitutes would make really good go-betweens.

        Money laundering as explains why Paddock did not drink, at least ‘outside’ or when working and had a squeeky clean record.

        Real estate is also used to launder money or make pay-offs. Paddock MADE MONEY in real estate at the SAME TIME that Joe Dan of Intellectual Froglegs lost his shirt. HMMMmmmmmm….

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        • William Cor says:

          I’ve read elsewhere that Paddock was known to drink a LOT.

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        • AnnS says:

          I’m sure they are and if not should be questioning his many cruises to middle eastern countries. I’m not sure if cruise casinos have high stakes gambling or not, but money laundering shouldn’t be ruled out.. And the Philippines are always coming up. Ref; the first WTC bombing and Ramzi Yousef had a safe house and planning apartment there, Oklahoma City bombing and Terry Nichols mail order bride. Remember the CA state senator Leland Yee who was buying guns from there to take over the government. They have mom and pop manufacturing excellent look alike weapons (Danao) Maybe they should also be looking at the girlfriends family; closely. Just my two cents. Don’t know much about weapons but some say he was shooting at the jet fuel tanks-but if that case did he not know that a bullet couldn’t trigger an explosion of jet fuel. Not sure about the ammonium nitrate, in his car.

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  6. wheatietoo says:

    Mandalay Bay hotel is refuting the story about Campos, the security guard, approaching Paddock’s room before the shooting started.

    Fox read the statement this morning from Mandalay.

    This thing just gets stinkier and stinkier.

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    • ladyliberty11 says:

      Well, the maintenance man gave an interview on MSNBC in which he pretty clearly outlines a timeline in which he and Campos were shot at on the 32nd floor BEFORE the shooting of innocents below began. So, Mandalay Bay management is calling their employee a liar?

      Actually, the maintenance man says he noted that Campos was shot in the leg, but it was not clear to me (from the interview) precisely when Campos was shot. The maintenance man did not claim to have seen Campos go down. He seemed sincere, but, then again, so did the LEO who was interviewed on 60 Minutes (giving a now debunked timeline), as has the Sheriff, who gave out information which we now know to be untrue.

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      • ladyliberty11 says:

        To clarify: per maintenance man, he and Campos were being shot at in the hallway, then they heard the other shooting (outside) begin. Maintenance guy made no claim to have witnessed Campos go down. If the shooting in the hallway began six minutes before the mass murder, what were they doing during that time? If reported immediately, the delay in response is unacceptable. Eighteen minutes with an active shooter and they just let it go on?

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        • Bob Thoms says:

          I don’t think this interview nails down the time line; it seems to muck things up. The maintenance man says he arrive at the 32nd floor and didn’t hear shooting; then while walking down the hallway, “shots went off” then, after the shots were heard he says Campos warned him “take cover” and Campos warning saved his life. Kinda mixes up the time line.

          The most interesting aspect of this interview, is the fact that Schuck is speaking out publicly, but Campos is remaining silent.

          IMO, Campos is hiding something. If he speaks out, he risks prosecution. His lawyer is telling him to shut up.

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        • covfefe999 says:

          There must have been a break in the shooting down the hallway. If maintenance guy had reached the 32nd floor while Paddock were shooting, he would have already known to take cover. But he said he came across injured Campos and it was Campos who told him to take cover and then bullets started flying, right?

          When I looked at the diagram of the hotel floor I thought that was a stairwell in the center but it’s the elevator banks. The stairwells are at the ends of the 3 hallways. I’m guessing Mainteance guy came by elevator then, saw Campos, and then Paddock fired. Paddock probably saw Maintenance guy in the hallway, the elevator bank is in view from his room though far down the hall.

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    • Bob Thoms says:

      Campos is knee deep. His lies are falling apart. His lawyer has told him to shut up. If Campos was one of the good guys, he would be talking publicly like MB employee Schuck.

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    • Bob Thoms says:

      Interesting they are refuting Campos but not Schuck.

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    • G. Combs says:

      “Mandalay Bay hotel is refuting the story about Campos, the security guard, approaching Paddock’s room before the shooting started.”

      IF Campos was shot 6 minutes BEFORE the shooting started and IMMEDIATELY informed Security Management as Sheriff Lombardo said. AND the Police scanner audio shows the cops had no idea that Campos was shot up on the 32nd floor until they tripped over him… THE Mandalay Bay is in REALLY REALLY DEEP DOO DOO because their management FAILED TO REPORT A SHOOTING/GUN SHOT WOUND!

      Oh the lawyers are going to really really LOVE this one….

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      • covfefe999 says:

        I don’t remember seeing any info that Campos immediately contacted anyone when he was shot. That was one of my questions. Now with new maintenance guy info it looks like it was maintenance guy who radiod for help (when the hallway shooting ended). I’m guessing Campos was playing dead, as I understand it he was not far from Paddock’s room and looking at that long hallway on the hotel map I can see he had nowhere to escape to.

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  7. distracted2 says:

    Here is a link to the maintenance man’s entire five-minute interview this morning. Must watch!!!
    https://www.today.com/news/las-vegas-hotel-workers-took-cover-hallway-after-gunman-opened-t117342

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  8. Bob Thoms says:

    Could it be that the MB was infested with drug, money laundering, terror funding groups? Cartel/Mob/Islamic control of the casino operations?

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    • Bob Thoms says:

      If this got out, it would financially destroy Las Vegas in ways we could only imagine. Far worse collapse than the 2007 implosion that destroyed property values and casino stocks.

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    • G. Combs says:

      YES!!!
      Soros “shorted” MGM (which owns much of the strip) for like $40M and owns the company installing ‘security’ machines all across the country. According to Reddit The_Donald

      MGM CEO’s wife is Heather Murren who worked for the Obama administration on Obama’s “Commission for Enhancing National Cybersecurity” in 2016.

      Obama appointed Jim Murren to the National Infrastructure Advisory Council. lasvegassun(DOT)com/news/2013/dec/19/obama-appoints-mgms-murren-national-council/

      Jim Murren sold most of stock BEFORE massacre:
      Investment Watch Main Shareholder and CEO of Mandalay bay: main partner is the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia… MANDALAY CEO SELLS 1/2 MILLIONS SHARES MGM 24Tth SEPT! Notice the date. Paddock checked in on the 25th a day later.

      This selling is typical of insiders who are in the ‘know’ about a planned event SEE: http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2017/10/06/major-break-in-mandalay-massacre-follow-the-money/
      Notice Dave Hodges mentions Vangard is where Obama parks his money. Vangard is one of the big owners of MGM As is Goldman Sachs and Credit Suisse.
      ………..

      Jim Murren is on the Board of Trustees of the Brookings Institution, and and a member of the Business Roundtable, an association of CEOs of leading U.S. companies. (a Milner Round Table and sister organization to the CFR)

      Jim Murren sorted out those on the staff who support CAIR and ANTIFA:
      “…with his latest political gambit, Jim Murren, CEO of MGM Resorts International, has violated the trust of his board, shareholders, employees and customers. And not in a small way. In a “Vegas bigger-than-life way.”

      In response to what he sees as the racism, bigotry, intolerance and violence in the wake of Charlottesville, Murren announced last week that MGM will match employee contributions to a collection of groups that include extreme leftist organizations and Muslim advocacy outfit….”
      (wwwDOT)reviewjournal.com/opinion/opinion-columns/wayne-allyn-root/commentary-mgms-ceo-risks-angering-many-of-his-customers/

      Saudi Royals and Bill Gates owned Four Seasons that occupied the top floors. As residence of Saudi Royals, therefore the local cops would give it a WIDE Berth.

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      • Bob Thoms says:

        This would explain S. Wynn’s interview in which he makes it clear = we do business differently, we don’t tolerate what the MB tolerates.

        Of course Wynn can’t say directly that the MB was a nest of cartels/terrorists, but he clued us in, didn’t he?

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        • G. Combs says:

          He certainly did.

          It would also explain President Trump’s comment about Betrayal if the Saudi Royals are involved.

          Prince Alwaleed bin Talal is part owner of Four Seasons.
          Rupert Murdoch and his best buddy, Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal OWN Fox news and the Wall Street Journal. Alwaleed bought a large chunk (bailed out) Citibank.

          I wonder what Alwaleed thought of the former Heir to the Saudi Throne getting ousted and a more Western friendly Prince named as Heir?

          There is no love loss between Trump and Alwaleed bin Talal
          Trump SCHOOLS Pompous Saudi Prince: “Has YOUR Country Taken ANY of the Syrian Refugees?” — (wwwDOT)thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12/trump-schools-pompous-saudi-prince-has-your-country-taken-any-of-the-syrian-refugees/

          From FORTUNE: January 29, 2016 This Saudi Prince Just Burned Donald Trump on Twitter fortune(DOT)com/2016/01/29/donald-trump-saudi-prince/

          Trump said the shooting attack hurt deeply, ‘personally’. — Al-Waleed bought President Trump’s boat when he was going through financial difficulties.

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        • G. Combs says:

          This is also what Al-Waleed was involved in. Somewhere I saw an article about his funding US mosques.

          April 16 2016 New York Post How Saudi Arabia Dangerously Undermines the United States

          “[…]I’ve seen Saudi money at work in country after country, from Senegal to Kenya to Pakistan to Indonesia and beyond. Everywhere, their hirelings preach a stern and joyless world, along with the duty to carry out jihad (contrary to our president’s [Obama’s] nonsense, jihad’s primary meaning is not “an inner struggle,” but expanding the reach of Islam by fire and sword)….

          The basic fact our policy-makers need to grasp about the Saudis is that they couldn’t care less about the welfare of flesh-and-blood Muslims (they refuse to take in Syrian refugees but demand Europe do so). What the Saudis care about is Islam in the abstract. Countless Muslims can suffer to keep the faith pure.

          The Saudis build Muslims mosques and madrassas but not hospitals and universities.

          Another phenomenon I’ve witnessed is that the Saudis rush to plant mosques where there are few or no Muslims, or where the Wahhabi cult still hasn’t found roots…..

          our real problem is here and now, in the United States. Consider how idiotic we’ve been, allowing Saudis to fund hate mosques and madrassas, to provide Jew-baiting texts and to do their best to bully American Muslims into conformity with their misogynistic, 500-lashes worldview. Our leaders and legislators have betrayed our fellow citizens who happen to be Muslim, making it more difficult for them to integrate fully into our society…

          we let the Saudis exert control over America’s Muslim communities through their surrogates. No restrictions beyond an occasional timid request to remove a textbook or pamphlet that went too far.

          Think what we’re doing: The Saudis would never let us fund a church or synagogue in Saudi Arabia. There are none. And there won’t be any.[…]” nypost(DOT)com/2016/04/16/how-saudi-arabia-undermines-the-united-states/

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          • Not just the Saudis, all of Islam is mandated to conquer the world.

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            • G. Combs says:

              I realize that. However it is the Saudis that are given a pass by our government.

              Most of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudis? WHO does the USA retaliate against??? Saudi Arabia? NO! The USA retaliates against the ideological enemies of Saudi Arabia! Iraq which is mainly 60-65% Shia Muslim.

              Saudi is Sunni and more important Wahhabi. It is a religious movement founded by Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab. It has been variously described as “ultraconservative”, “austere”, and “fundamentalist” (WIKI)

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      • Cmcc2. says:

        Holy Cow, I would have never guessed that it truthfully ran that deep!

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  9. DeWalt says:

    Interesting,Fox is reporting shooters Mesquite home was Burglerized during investigation. They report nothing taken. Hmmmmmmmmm

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  10. olderglory says:

    According to the time line (I know) last shot fired at 10:15. Police arrive at 10:17. Nothing on the timeline about a shot fired after that. I’m guessing that Paddock is dead by 10:17. So, unclear to me who the shooter was. “Campos” may have some ‘spaining to do

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  11. andi lee says:

    Just to note: Four Seasons Hotel have their own elevator bay, separate from MB Hotel.

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  12. New multiple shooter video is making the rounds. This one is even more clear vs. the taxi driver video.

    Really starting to look like an ISIS hit?

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    • Sounds like either multiple weapons being fired from different locations or bullets striking the ground near the camera in addition to the report from a single weapon.

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    • Curry Worsham says:

      You’re hearing the pop of the nearby bullets vs. the sound of the weapon firing in the distance. When the pops end, you still hear the weäpon because the bullets are traveling faster than sound. Kind of like seeing lightning before hearing thunder. Single shooter.

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  13. andi lee says:

    Wow.
    Hadn’t heard about this incident in Oklahoma. Within this article, is noted, another man also arrested for making the same terroristic claims.

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  14. andi lee says:

    Here’s one I hadn’t seen yet, at a different angle.

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    • georgiafl says:

      I don’t see anything in the windows.
      Wonder if he was using a drone?
      People on the ground smelled a LOT of gunpowder.

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      • Eskyman says:

        I have yet to see any gunfire flashes in the location that the “lone shooter” is supposed to be, on the 32nd floor.

        THIS video does seem to show flashes coming from the Delano, the building that looks much like the Mandalay Bay but is behind it, from near the top of the closest wing, at about 5:42 or so:

        So far this is the only video I’ve seen that apparently does show muzzle flashes. If there are any others, I sure hope someone will post them!

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  15. DeWalt says:

    This so called individual has made a mockery of the millions spent on Hotel and Casino security, DHS and LVPD anti terror prep. All the high paid experts and response teams. He defeated them all. Lots of hand ringing going on. Many jobs on the line. Worse part is, they still can’t figure out how.

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  16. Much good commentary and analysis of what we know, mixed with much speculation over what we only partially know. We hope PDT is in control of this investigation, because he assures us that his primary motive is to protect this country, and he is the Commander in Chief. We wait and pray as the evidence is analyzed and presented to AG Sessions, and then to our President.

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  17. Paco Loco says:

    The police have lost control of the timeline story. It keeps changing and now MB refutes Campos saying that he was shot before Paddock opened fire on the concert crowd. I’m very skeptical on how this investigation is been handled by the FBI. It looks more and more that the FBI is spinning out new info that’s contradicting the initial story to create uncertainty. Ten days after the shooting and the FBI can’t get the story line straight. It’s not key stone cops incompetence but looks more and more like it’s a cover up. The fact that no CCTV video has been released that would conclusively prove that Paddock was the lone perp is even more confounding. If LEO wants to sell the lone gunman/suicide theory they would have released CCTV video of who entered into the 32nd floor suite over the time it was occupied by Paddock. This whole sad story revolves around determining the perps motive and if there was other shooters firing from other positions. The FBI is looking both incompetent and suspect by slow rolling the investigation and hiding the truth from the public. Another gift from the hold overs from the Obama administration.

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    • Laura says:

      While it would be nice for them to release CCTV video, I see many reasons for why they wouldn’t. At the top of the list: the CCTV video is crucial to an ongoing investigation.

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  18. Singer says:

    One thing I can’t seem to understand. If the shooter was utilizing both windows and moving from room to room, why would the responding SWAT team have to “breach” the second door between the two rooms, as reported in the LA times article?

    10:55 p.m.: Eight officers arrive in the stairwell at the opposite end of the hallway nearest to Paddock’s room.

    11:20 p.m.: Officers enter the room. They see Paddock on the ground and a second door that could not be accessed from their position.

    11:27 p.m.: A second breach is set off, allowing officers to enter the second room. Officers quickly realize there is no one else in the rooms and announce over the radio that the suspect is down.

    Did the shooter really shut and secure the door between the two rooms before he shot himself?

    If this has been addressed and I missed it, please accept my apologies.

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  19. G. Combs says:

    Now the maintenance man in an interview is saying he was with the security guard when the guard was shot…

    However my notes from the Fox News video that Sundance put up has Sheriff Lombardo saying:
    1. Security Guard immediately called Security Manager.
    2. Security Guard prevented maintenance man from entering hall.
    3. LEO did not know until met guard in hall of 32nd floor.

    And Mandalay Bay is saying the original time line was correct.

    And people wonder why the trust in our government and the MSM is at an all time low??
    Boy, do they need to get their stories straight!

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    • jakeandcrew says:

      I thought the maintenance man saw Campos hiding in an alcove, already wounded.

      What I don’t get is the maintenance man hearing gunshots first, shots that were not aimed at him down the hallway. Which means it was at least 10:05, and Paddock had begun shooting up the concert. So was Paddock going back and forth from the window to the door for all of those subsequent blasts down the hallway, or was there another shooter in the room?

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      • G. Combs says:

        I think Paddock was dead by then.

        There is a chance he was doing a private sale of those guns. Perfectly legal. There had been a gun show a short time before and someone might have approached him at that time.
        Or he was doing a sting for the government. (All the cameras)
        Or he was selling guns that would magically be ‘stolen’ from his home.

        There was explosives in his car that when mixed and shot will detonate. Were these also part of the sale? If not why weren’t they in the Suite and set up?

        Paddock as the ‘Lone Gunman’ Stinks to high heaven. Heck the food cart with the cameras had a dinner setting for two.

        The ONLY thing that points to a ‘Lone Gunman’ is the bovine feces shovelled out by the FBI and we know they are generally in CYA mode for the Elite.

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        • G. Combs says:

          One of the problems with using lowlifes and criminals and crazies is they are erratic in behavior.

          This may have just been a transfer of ‘legally bought’ weapons to Terrorists so the DemonRats could push more gun bans once they were used. (NOT IN VEGAS) Then the Security guard barges in on the buy, the terrorists freak and start shooting everything in sight. Their buddies on the ground also freak and start firing into the crowd to help give them cover and confuse the issue.

          Don’t forget ANTIFA was promising all H..L is going to break loose November 4th so this may have been part of that.

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      • covfefe999 says:

        I’m looking at the NBC article (https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/las-vegas-shooting-hotel-worker-narrowly-escaped-gunman-s-rampage-n809726). Maintenance guy said he went to the 32nd floor because of an alarm for a fire exit door. He “came upon” Campos who was already injured. Campos told him to take cover. Then there was a flurry of bullets from Paddock. Sounds like Paddock didn’t fire just one round of bullets, there must have been a gap between two or more rounds. Maintenance guy said he waited until the shooting stopped and he could reach Campos, then radioed for help. Was this before 10:05, the time when Paddock started firing on the concert crowd? Because even if Paddock were firing out the window the guys in the hall would surely hear the gun, no?

        I wonder if the Campos timing was revised because Campos didn’t correctly recall the time he was injured and it was maintenance guy who nailed down the correct time.

        This is certainly fascinating!

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        • jakeandcrew says:

          Because even if Paddock were firing out the window the guys in the hall would surely hear the gun, no?

          Yes, they did. Maintenance guy said he heard gunfire first, not coming down the hallway at him, but from inside the room. So, Paddock must have already started shooting at the concert goers, and it must have been at least 10:05 when maintenance guy got there.

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          • covfefe999 says:

            I can’t watch the video at the moment. In the text article it says “When the first shooting started, I was kind of frozen for a second,” worker Stephen Schuck said Wednesday on “TODAY.” “He yelled at me, ‘Take cover! Take cover!’ If he yelled a second too late, I would have been shot.”

            When the shooting first started. That means he didn’t hear shooting until he was being shot at and Campos yelled at him.

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  20. RealAmerican says:

    Doesn’t seem like we will get the truth on what happened on the 32nd floor. And its also quite convenient that he used the service elevator (which is for staff and more likely not to be monitored) given the revelation below:

    “There are no hotel surveillance cameras in the hotel hallway, only on the floor’s elevator banks, and the timestamps on the hotel’s communications systems have in some cases been inaccurate, hampering investigators’ ability to build an accurate timeline while they try to find a motive behind the attack, Roberts said.”

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  21. Scoot4444 says:

    Questions and comments

    Why did he shoot 200 times through the door? Wouldn’t you open the door and shoot once? One shot would draw less attention than 200. Perhaps the security guard was in on it, shoot him once giving him a flesh wound, shoot 200 rounds through the door and then the security guard hangs around telling everyone there’s a madman in that room shooting through the door. That would buy lots of time for the shooter.

    The shooter was putting in lots of cameras to view the hallway (presumably to know when the room may be breached) this would indicate that he was planning on shooting until the ammo was gone or until the cops stormed the room. Why would he shoot himself before the ammo was gone or before the cops breached the room?

    I could see that the shooter wanted the second smaller room as a buffer for any noise (smaller room on one side and the stairwell on the other side) or to have room service deliveries etc. I could also see where the shooter broke out the second room window to provide ventilation. It would cause a breeze sucking the smoke out of the main suite.

    Does anyone know where cameras are located on the room floors? Hallway, elevator, service elevator, stairwells? It would be nice to know what footage is possibly out there that would fill in some of the gaps or to see what is being hidden.

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  22. andi lee says:

    Floyd Conrade, of Kansas, rented MBs adjoining rooms 31-134 & 31-135, for business, & was directly below Paddock. He thought he was hearing fireworks until debris began hitting his windows.

    (Is this the guy that Paddock called the frontdesk to report his music was too loud?)

    🚨Intriguing. Conrade further reports, the police’ heavy foot-stomping & the *crunching of glass* seemed to go on & on …

    Umm …. shouldn’t that *glass* have been knocked *outward*, not inward?

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    • georgiafl says:

      Debris hitting the window was probably shell casings.

      He could have made a small hole, then pulled the glass shards inside the room so falling glass would not alert anyone.

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  23. andi lee says:

    MB releasing maintenance call. It won’t play for me. Maybe, someone else can make it play.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      I hate these sloppy news reports and sloppy witness accounts. Not really blaming Schuck but come on, “the shooting started again”. The shooting down the hall or out the window? What time was it when Schuck radio’d for help? Before or after 10:05pm? And what’s up with “possibly used a hallway phone”? Just ask Schuck if he used it. Good gosh, no wonder conspiracy theories and criticisms of investigators abound! It shouldn’t be this difficult.

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  24. covfefe999 says:

    Why do you write “nothing happened”? Check all of the timelines, there was plenty of activity going on.

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  25. Lee says:

    Has anyone ever seen, or is there any video of Paddock pulling the trigger?
    No. Like Oswald he was the patsy and expendable in this Arms Deal gone sour.

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