Police Scanner Full Audio During Las Vegas “Mandalay Bay Massacre’…

Full police scanner audio of the radio traffic during the response to the Las Vegas shooting.  The first radio call start time is approximately 10:08pm (local). Interestingly, only 42 seconds after first radio contact an unknown police officer reports the shooter is located in the Mandalay Bay hotel and gives approximate location of visible gunfire.

It is very likely that officer’s quick identification of shooter location saved many lives.

Warning: It can be disturbing to listen to the emotion during these radio calls. If you are not familiar with the anxiety such real-time audio can produce, you shouldn’t listen.

It is now reported that gunman Stephen Craig Paddock had created makeshift shooting platforms within the Mandalay Bay hotel rooms, and had approximately 17 long-guns in his possession.

The firing distance is approximately 1,700 feet (500 +/- yards).  The type of fire heard in video is generally fully automatic.  The firing sequences sound like they are 100, 50 and 30 rounds per burst, with the original first sequence sounding like 100.

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131 Responses to Police Scanner Full Audio During Las Vegas “Mandalay Bay Massacre’…

  1. sundance says:

    Last Press Conference: 6:00pm EDT

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  2. Uncle Max says:

    Thanks for posting this. I do wonder why, since they identified where in the bldg the firing was coming from, why patrol rifles were not allowed to return fire to suppress. If they are not trained to do so, I think for any big city with this possibility, counter fire should be taught. I also wonder why it took them over an hour to storm the room, but hopefully, tactics will be adjusted, since this was the first event of this type… surely lessons will be forthcoming for LEO’s going forward.

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    • James W Crawford says:

      Armed citizens quickly engaged James Whitmore, the Texas Clocktower gunmen. Police continue to refuse to learn lessons from these mass shootings. The only useful response is aggressive engagement, not “securing the crimebscene” or “waiting for backup.”

      Liked by 8 people

      • Uncle Max says:

        Yep, three or four citizens with a 30.30 or hunting rifle could easily keep this kind of guy pinned down until LEO blows the door in… but.. common sense says the common citizen can’t be trusted…

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      • SteveC says:

        Agreed – and the armed citizen’s return fire (even with pistols) provided some suppression of the gunman’s firing – saving lives.
        However, that return fire was fired at an otherwise unoccupied tower. Misses here would likely be hitting other rooms. I can see why the cops didn’t fire back (based on training, not an analysis off which would provide a better outcome).
        My question is how did the casino security not respond on its own? I’ve always assumed that casinos have their own security on hand. They have to have every window wired and I’ve read that they knew which rooms from the smoke detector.

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        • Sandra-VA says:

          They did respond and were shot at. They went to the room after the guy in the room next door called down to report the gun shots. Shooter apparently had cameras set up to observe LE approach.

          This was reported earlier this morning but nobody has followed up on that since. The guy in the room next door was interviewed via phone on Fox.

          It took some time after that first engagement by hotel security before cops got there.

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          • kea25252014 says:

            Shooter apparently had cameras set up to observe LE approach.— Why? I mean its clear he didn’t want to come out of that alive so why set up cameras like that? Its dark, no one knew where it was coming from…

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          • SteveC says:

            Thanks. I only heard that later this evening. It makes it even harder to understand why the police response to the gunman’s suite took so long.

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        • starfcker says:

          Sorry. You’re not suppressing anybody from 500 yards away with pistols, especially a mass murderer with fully automatic weapons

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          • SteveC says:

            You certainly shouldn’t be able to, but there are witness reports and news stories (which is better?) from the time that the ‘mass’ of people returning fire helped people escape and made it possible for the ‘good guys’ to make it up to the gunman. That’s the definition of suppressive fire.
            What the gunman is armed with makes no difference to his ‘feelings’ of being ‘threatened’.

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      • nimrodman says:

        The only useful response is aggressive engagement, not “securing the crimebscene” or “waiting for backup.”

        Or worse: waiting for the professional police negotiator

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    • essential liberties says:

      Well, they would have been shooting back at a hotel. Likely full of people. Would you want to be the officer pulling that trigger, not knowing if your miss might take an innocent person’s life in one of the adjoining rooms? High pressure situation, no guarantee an officer will put accurate rounds on target. The shooter essentially held the adjacent rooms as hostages, because police would’t know if empty or full. Different situation from the clocktower, where he was the only guy up there, so people could fire away. The police have to be sure of what is downrange before they fire, otherwise the consequences will be drastic, and layer more tragedy onto an already horrific situation.

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      • Uncle Max says:

        You’re right of course, but still… it’s frustrating. Listening to the tape, I hear cops saying they had rifles ready, but couldn’t get a clear view of where to shoot… so.. just a bad situation.

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    • Max Hathaway says:

      Why didn’t a single cop somehwere in the crowd had a MEGAPHONE to tell people to run and take cover?????????????????????????

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    • OK, but do you understand that there were innocent people behind all the rest of those glass panels surrounding room 135? That would not have been an option because the cops might have shot even more people. I mean, they are firing into that room from 5 football fields away…..I listened to that entire audio track of police calls.

      I cannot think of anything I would have done differently. They had the direction of fire and even the room number located in 17 minutes…..But they knew they had to evacuate the surrounding rooms before they bombed room 135…..Good job, officers.

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  3. redtreesquirrel says:

    All I can do is pray. This makes me feel vulnerable and afraid, even though I did not listen to the audio. Will life ever be the same? Will America heal from this Satanic attack it is currently under, and has been for the last 10 years… Please pray for God to guide us into His Safe and Loving arms. Amen.

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    • sadsack says:

      America will heal!! You are such a strong nation because of your people. Americans get knocked down but they ALWAYS get back up. Look at all of the photos Sundance posted of people helping people during the hurricanes. Those pictures show what the majority of americans are like.

      I am so sorry this happened to your citizens and country. You are in our thoughts and prayers.
      God bless your president and your country!

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    • backwoodsgirl123 says:

      Don’t give in to their terror!

      Matthew 10:28Amplified Bible, Classic Edition (AMPC)

      28 And do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul; but rather be afraid of Him who can destroy both soul and body in hell (Gehenna).

      If you are right with God, you have nothing to fear! You die, you go to heaven.

      But now is a time to prepare for whatever they are planning. And there does seem to be some nefarious plans afoot. So plan. Get your family ready for chaos and possible violence in the streets.

      Plan like you do for a hurricane.

      Assume, breakdown of society. Assume, disruption of normal daily activities like going to work, or running to the grocery store whenever you want something.

      Fuel, food, clothing, shelter, first aid, communication, self defense.

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  4. zephyrbreeze says:

    I takes a year at least to get a special Class 3 license. What if these guns came from over the border, or from Ghadaffi’s arsenal. Then the gun numbers went from 9, to 19, to 29 – what’s next, 39 guns total? How odd.

    Our friend was stuck in traffic for 4 hours. All the off ramps had police car blocking exits. Why shut down the airport? They would know who is getting on and off, right?

    Reminds me of listening to the scanners during the Boston bombing.

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    • The Raven says:

      And like that event, something doesn’t smell right….

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    • Legatus says:

      Likely they shut down the airport because the departure path for runway 26, and the final approach for 08, pass close to Mandaly Bay … aircraft there are low and slow. No law enforcement official is going to allow such lucrative targets when yet doesn’t know exactly who the shooter is, how many there are, what weapons they have and just what they are trying to accomplish.

      (NOTE: — 10+ years domestic response / anti-terrorism mission experience Las Vegas area.)

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  5. wyntre says:

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    • Uncle Max says:

      Wow. Good to hear security from MB made first contact and attempted engagement. There surely will be new protocols written up and trained on for the future. Nothing can undo a determined shooter with no will to live. Very sad.

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    • carrierh says:

      wyntred, thank you for giving us more information about this murderer. Now why does Nevada allow this type of gun is beyond common sense. This man obviously had a dubious past and this was not an instantaneous killing but planned. Was he alone? We don’t yet but police are thinking there might be others. Did the gf have any clue about this? Somehow I think she did. He sent money to the Philippines and now she went to Tokyo. So much unknown but hopefully within time we will have the whole story.

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    • JC says:

      Mesquite population only about 18k. Like a multitude of others, I’ve stayed overnight there a few times en route to CA; small town along 15. Can’t imagine he could be completely unknown there, and someone had to have seen or heard something sometime, somewhere. If Feds don’t obfuscate and investigation thorough enough, we should know more shortly, I would think.

      God help us.

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    • blognificentbee says:

      There is a motive, FBI & media just won’t tell us yet as it will make the libs look bad.

      Liked by 8 people

  6. Ziiggii says:

    Mass-casualty event…. am I missing something, but why isn’t FBI / ATF involved with this event or in these news conferences?

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    • sundance says:

      It’s weird. The absence of the FBI and ATF in the pressers is back to the pre-Obama era responses. Locals give their own information, Feds don’t try to control it.

      It was Obama DOJ that injected Fed into local pressers.

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      • Ziiggii says:

        yeah exactly! With the amount of weapons and reportedly explosives one would think that at the very least ATF would be throwing their weight around.

        Liked by 6 people

      • farmhand1927 says:

        FBI absent from pressers but within a few short hours they assert the guy wasn’t connected to any terror group, including ISIS. How can they be so sure? They haven’t reached any other motive, have they? If they’re so sure there’s no terror connection, then why aren’t they so sure of what did motivate him?

        Weird, indeed.

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      • BobW462 says:

        Perhaps, in this case, the black hats don’t see any need for high-visibility hands-on control because of high confidence in well-trained local surrogates?

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      • Well, see? Even things we didn’t know were bad are getting better! POTUS knows that the lower down political power goes, the safer citizens, b/c they can monitor LEO more closely.
        I’m thrilled!

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    • TheLastDemocrat says:

      From years back, what I have heard is that FBI tries to keep name out of the news so the bad guys do not exactly know when they are and are not involved.

      News coverage of major drug busts often says that several local law enforcement agencies carried out a long-term operation. They don’t say FBI.

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  7. G3 says:

    GF is in Tokyo— maybe she is changing planes— as she is enroute from Philippines.

    Liked by 1 person

  8. First Last says:

    Scanner Radio Pro. Get it for your Smart Phone. Set up alerts and you can listen real time. One of my favorite apps.

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  9. PDQ says:

    Call and check need at this time for those in the area:

    Liked by 2 people

    • blognificentbee says:

      The last I heard from a friend that went to Henderson location, is YES, they still need blood but OK to schedule an appointment so you don’t wait in line for hours and give up and leave.

      Liked by 1 person

      • Beverly says:

        On September 11th, here in New York, we had folks lined up around the block at all the hospitals; went on for days and days.
        They stockpile the blood for future emergencies as well.

        Liked by 1 person

  10. ck says:

    It will be interesting to find out what kind of guns were used. If the first volley was 100 rounds as reported, I don’t think a modified AK or AR15 could do a hundred rounds without melting the barrel (I could be wrong). Also I believe it would be extremely difficult to be that lethal with a 5.56 or a 7.62 at that range. Just my two cents.

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    • Ziiggii says:

      5.56 / 7.62 / .223 – are all lethal out to 500 yds. it just depends on the grain weight and other variables. The real question is where did he sight in these weapons? He would have needed to have been shooting targets at that height and distance to be any type of effective – even for “area suppression” type engagements. This is one reason I’m surprised to not see FBI / ATF supplying info.

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      • James W Crawford says:

        Just use the line of dight range multiplied by the Cosine of the shooting angle to get the effective range to calculate bullet drop or adjust scope. If I was pkanning ro do this, I would measure the range using a laser range finder (available at any sporting goods store), adjust my sights or scope for the range. Once my sights or scope are adjusted, every shot is just cross hairs on center of mass.

        However; the audio makes it clear that this guy was spray and pray. Given the stated 22,000 people crowded together, he should have about a 25% hit rate but not such a high lethality rate.

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        • Ziiggii says:

          yes, not how many of those weapons had scopes? Reportedly only 2

          meaning he shot multiple rounds via iron sights? Spray and pray watching for impact zone and Kentucky wind-age adjustments…

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        • Greenmirror says:

          Fox reported .308 & .223 caliber found.

          I think we may not be told what choices villain made from how successful the ambush was.

          Liked by 1 person

        • Mist'ears Mom says:

          FWIW-Interesting analysis …
          More than one Vegas shooter; evidence builds
          By Jon Rappoport
          Lone shooter? Really? And this is supposed to be more than a convenient fantasy?
          Yesterday, I did a brief analysis of the number of people killed and wounded at the Vegas Concert (573) in roughly four and half minutes, which is the police estimate of the duration of the attack.
          I mistakenly reversed figures. The correct conclusion would be: the lone shooter killed or wounded 2.1 persons per second. It is HIGHLY doubtful Paddock could have done that. His distance from the concert, his lack of professional skill, his state of mind, among other factors, rule against it.
          Any competent and honest law-enforcement analyst would see a huge red flag right away.
          But of course, multiple shooters destroys the official narrative and opens the door to an investigation that could expose, for example, an intentional false flag operation.
          Here is a piece of Jeff Rense’s analysis of rate-of-fire vs. people struck by bullets. It cuts to the core of the absurd lone shooter assumption:
          “…a potential MAXIMUM of only 360 rounds could be fired at full auto burst with NO magazine changes in the approximate four minutes or 240 seconds of the shooting!”
          “So, Paddock didn’t fire 360 rounds in 240 seconds because he had to stop and change magazines…probably 30 round mags. That would be THIRTEEN magazine changes in the 240 seconds. And it is reported he fired from both broken out windows in the room/s.”
          “Survivors state there were shooting pauses and that is when they would run.”
          “Let’s say Paddock managed to get off an amazing 300 rounds in 4 minutes (or 240 seconds) and hit someone with EVERY ROUND.”
          “Remember, there were 573 killed and wounded according to late statistics.”
          “WHO, then, fired off the other full-auto 273 rounds also without missing a single shot ?!”
          Another man who apparently has significant professional background re weapons has sent me his detailed analysis:
          “There is NO WAY in hell that this inexperienced guy was able to hit 500+ people, at a down sloping range of approximately 250-350 yards using a make-shift weapon modified to shot automatically. Here are some reasons why and you can check with other experts to verify my points.”
          “1. It was dark and no matter how well lit, there are many shadows to hide in.
          2. Simple a ‘sear’ (pronounced see-er) modification would have only permitted one entire magazine to shoot all at once with no select fire (being able to start and stop)
          3. There are some devices (like AutoGlove and Bump Fire) that can simulate full automatic fire, but they cannot be used accurately or effectively.
          4. Even if the shooter was able to somehow obtain a full normal functioning automatic rifle, anyone with military experience can tell you that the rifles are difficult to control when firing more than 3 round bursts – especially a .308 or AK47 type. This is because the rifle will uncontrollably rise if automatic fire is constant.
          5. After the first 15 or so seconds, the crowd scattered and took cover.
          6. I don’t have a count of how many pieces of empty brass (fired rounds) they have recovered, but knowing how many shots were fired compared to how many people were hit will tell you the hit ratio. If this guy did this in 20 seconds, we needed him desperately in Afghanistan!
          7. To fire 500 aimed shoots and swap out magazines would have taken him about 15-20 minutes, and there is no way that each shot would have hit someone – more than likely would have missed.”
          “To put in perspective…. Say a guy purchases an expensive bolt action rifle in .308 with a nice expensive scope. Without experience, someone would have to mount the scope for him and do a rough sighting in with a laser. This individual then takes this rifle to a range in broad daylight with no stress and using a bench rest and breathing techniques and all the time in the world and fires at a target 300 yards. It is possible, but doubtful if that person could hit a large refrigerator at that range UNLESS they had LOTS OF PRACTICE and EXPERIENCE. For every 1 minute (1/60th of a degree) of angle change at the rifle, the bullet would vary by 3 inches at 300 yards. For this untrained guy to be wildly shooting with a high heart rate at nighttime? Well, bullets would be going everywhere!”
          I fully understand that the estimates of 573 killed and wounded, and the police statement that all the shooting took place in four and half minutes, may be off. These figures may not be precise.
          Nevertheless, they are a good and proper starting point. And even allowing for later adjustments, the evidence for multiple shooters and against a lone amateur like Paddock is stunning.
          So why won’t law-enforcement take notice?
          Because, in certain cases with great consequences, the overall agenda and the direction of an investigation are set from offices far higher than the positions of the actual detectives and agents on the scene.
          “This is what we want to know. Only this. Everything else is off limits.”
          But it’s not off limits for us.

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    • Trent Telenko says:

      The Vegas tac-team didn’t bust into the shooter’s room until 75 minutes after he opened fire. The mass evacuation of victims didn’t begin until after his room was assaulted.

      IMO, most of the dead expired from blood loss.

      Add on top of that this that the Shooter was an Alaska big game hunter and planned his attack well, in addition to his tow tripods he did the following planning —

      1. The 32nd floor was outside of pistol range and about 350 yards true distance from the center of the area in front of the stage.

      2. His position enfiladed the stage from the right

      3.. His initial two (90+ round) bursts were into the crowd in front of the stage to get the crowd behind them to run.

      4. His other position covered the exit. So the running crowd piled up in another kill zone.

      5. There were 22,000 people inside the stage area for the Festival’s final night’s top star performers

      6. He was there since 28 Sept so he had two nights of dry runs to work out ! thru 4 above.

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      • joeknuckles says:

        Police are trained not to “be heroes”. That is, they protect themselves first. That makes sense to a degree, as you can’t help anybody if you are dead. However, I don’t think we train our soldiers that way. There’s a good reason for that. Perhaps the training needs to incorporate a change in tactics during these extreme “war like” events.

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      • Max Hathaway says:

        75 minutes to respond is an atrocity in its own right!

        LV is a corrupt democrap city.

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    • SteveC says:

      We’ll have to wait and see, but nothing I’ve read describes this guy as a shooter or a gun person, or that he had any tactical experience or training.
      He used the firearms like they were artillery, letting dispersion do the damage.
      No one is aiming with full-auto (or bump-fire or an automated trigger puller), much less when firing the same at 400-500 yards. However, when the target is 22,000 people in a contained environment at those distances, casualties are all about the number of rounds on target as quickly as possible. Firing from that height, no one is getting benefit of cover, and going to ground can make you a larger target.
      As evil as this was, I believe that this was a ‘smart’ perpetrator that thought about what he was going to do, taking his skills into consideration; this is not someone who just ‘snapped’.

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      • backwoodsgirl123 says:

        Had an Alaska hunting license!

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        • SteveC says:

          That means he had enough money to go on an Alaskan hunting trip.
          I know lots of occasional shooters who’ve done that, or have gone on Wyoming elk hunts, African game safaris or Mexican bird hunting. Though I’d love for it to be otherwise, for many it’s an event, like going to Indianapolis pr Daytona without ever following racing. It is not an any indication of skill. With the exception of Elk, most American game is taken at relatively short (150 yards or less) range. I’ve trained lots of first time rifle shooters to do that with iron sights (no scope). Hitting point targets at 300+ yards is a different level skill, especially with smaller calibers (like the 5.56 that was allegedly used).
          All these calibers (even pistol calibers) are plenty lethal at that range, but I don’t believe aiming was more than pointing into the crowd.

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          • backwoodsgirl123 says:

            You are correct. And this was not a sniper attack. It was “spray bullets and do as much damage as possible).

            Liked by 1 person

          • backwoodsgirl123 says:

            I just had a horrible thought, Listening to Hannity…showing the crowd at the concert. They were singing God Bless America and had their phones lit up….

            Reckon that shooter was PO’d because of the NFL boycott? Reckon he was PO’d because he’s a GAMBLER that bets on football and he thought Conservative Patriots were a threat? Gamblers do strange things!

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    • trst10 says:

      Clearly you’ve never shot .223 or .308 at those distances then. Both of those weapons are highly lethal at 500 yards, especially when firing rounds into a group of 20,000+ people. With either round, we’re talking at most anywhere from 36″-60″ of bullet drop @ 500 yards. And firing from a highly elevated position would only benefit the shooter in that regard (less drop).

      We’re not talking hitting a 5″ steel plate here. He was spraying bullets into a target larger than a football field. It would take me 2 hours with shooting with my extreme novice wife and she’ll hitting the 5″ plate. Any psychotic loser with a death wish wanting to kill people could’ve pulled this off. No need to get into any ballistics coefficients and charts, sight in range, where he bought the rangefinder, ect. This wasn’t some highly trained expert we need to dig deep into to see how he pulled it off.

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    • Mist'ears Mom says:

      Interesting analysis of the shooting:
      More than one Vegas shooter; evidence builds
      By Jon Rappoport
      Lone shooter? Really? And this is supposed to be more than a convenient fantasy?
      Yesterday, I did a brief analysis of the number of people killed and wounded at the Vegas Concert (573) in roughly four and half minutes, which is the police estimate of the duration of the attack.
      I mistakenly reversed figures. The correct conclusion would be: the lone shooter killed or wounded 2.1 persons per second. It is HIGHLY doubtful Paddock could have done that. His distance from the concert, his lack of professional skill, his state of mind, among other factors, rule against it.
      Any competent and honest law-enforcement analyst would see a huge red flag right away.
      But of course, multiple shooters destroys the official narrative and opens the door to an investigation that could expose, for example, an intentional false flag operation.
      Here is a piece of Jeff Rense’s analysis of rate-of-fire vs. people struck by bullets. It cuts to the core of the absurd lone shooter assumption:
      “…a potential MAXIMUM of only 360 rounds could be fired at full auto burst with NO magazine changes in the approximate four minutes or 240 seconds of the shooting!”
      “So, Paddock didn’t fire 360 rounds in 240 seconds because he had to stop and change magazines…probably 30 round mags. That would be THIRTEEN magazine changes in the 240 seconds. And it is reported he fired from both broken out windows in the room/s.”
      “Survivors state there were shooting pauses and that is when they would run.”
      “Let’s say Paddock managed to get off an amazing 300 rounds in 4 minutes (or 240 seconds) and hit someone with EVERY ROUND.”
      “Remember, there were 573 killed and wounded according to late statistics.”
      “WHO, then, fired off the other full-auto 273 rounds also without missing a single shot ?!”
      Another man who apparently has significant professional background re weapons has sent me his detailed analysis:
      “There is NO WAY in hell that this inexperienced guy was able to hit 500+ people, at a down sloping range of approximately 250-350 yards using a make-shift weapon modified to shot automatically. Here are some reasons why and you can check with other experts to verify my points.”
      “1. It was dark and no matter how well lit, there are many shadows to hide in.
      2. Simple a ‘sear’ (pronounced see-er) modification would have only permitted one entire magazine to shoot all at once with no select fire (being able to start and stop)
      3. There are some devices (like AutoGlove and Bump Fire) that can simulate full automatic fire, but they cannot be used accurately or effectively.
      4. Even if the shooter was able to somehow obtain a full normal functioning automatic rifle, anyone with military experience can tell you that the rifles are difficult to control when firing more than 3 round bursts – especially a .308 or AK47 type. This is because the rifle will uncontrollably rise if automatic fire is constant.
      5. After the first 15 or so seconds, the crowd scattered and took cover.
      6. I don’t have a count of how many pieces of empty brass (fired rounds) they have recovered, but knowing how many shots were fired compared to how many people were hit will tell you the hit ratio. If this guy did this in 20 seconds, we needed him desperately in Afghanistan!
      7. To fire 500 aimed shoots and swap out magazines would have taken him about 15-20 minutes, and there is no way that each shot would have hit someone – more than likely would have missed.”
      “To put in perspective…. Say a guy purchases an expensive bolt action rifle in .308 with a nice expensive scope. Without experience, someone would have to mount the scope for him and do a rough sighting in with a laser. This individual then takes this rifle to a range in broad daylight with no stress and using a bench rest and breathing techniques and all the time in the world and fires at a target 300 yards. It is possible, but doubtful if that person could hit a large refrigerator at that range UNLESS they had LOTS OF PRACTICE and EXPERIENCE. For every 1 minute (1/60th of a degree) of angle change at the rifle, the bullet would vary by 3 inches at 300 yards. For this untrained guy to be wildly shooting with a high heart rate at nighttime? Well, bullets would be going everywhere!”
      I fully understand that the estimates of 573 killed and wounded, and the police statement that all the shooting took place in four and half minutes, may be off. These figures may not be precise.
      Nevertheless, they are a good and proper starting point. And even allowing for later adjustments, the evidence for multiple shooters and against a lone amateur like Paddock is stunning.
      So why won’t law-enforcement take notice?
      Because, in certain cases with great consequences, the overall agenda and the direction of an investigation are set from offices far higher than the positions of the actual detectives and agents on the scene.
      “This is what we want to know. Only this. Everything else is off limits.”
      But it’s not off limits for us.

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  11. Lyn says:

    This may not be the right time or place, but every one of those NFL players who are protesting against the “evil police” should be forced to listen to the Las Vegas police scanner audio of the mass shooting.

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  12. POP says:

    ‘100, 50 and 30 rounds per burst, with the original first sequence sounding like 100.’

    Very strange numbers. That indicates some big drum mags. Dead and injured 500 souls, how many shots? Full auto at 500 yards is totally inaccurate, a densely packed crowd explains it. Was there a scoped accurate rifle used while the auto shooting was happening?

    Full auto and big military mags are just not available without a lot of effort.

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    • Trent Telenko says:

      Pop,

      This is via a friend of mine —

      “The two 90+ round bursts were almost certainly from the two AR’s modified for fully automatic, both mounted on tripods.

      And the two bursts is understandable from the way AR’s overheat easily on rapid fire. I had speculated, before reading this article, that the perp had two such weapons with three 30-round magazines each for them.”

      See Link and Text:

      https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2017/10/02/las-vegas-shooting/722191001/

      “… The official, who has been briefed on the matter but is not authorized to comment publicly, said that police also found two tri-pods positioned at the hotel windows in what appeared to be a fully-equipped sniper’s nest to take better aim at the crowd below.

      Hundreds of rounds of ammunition were among the suspect’s possessions, a cache that could have sustained him in a much longer assault, the official said.

      The Associated Press also reported that two of the weapons were modified to make them fully automatic, according to two U.S. officials briefed by law enforcement who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is still unfolding …”

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      • POP says:

        Thanks. The cadence of the shots will be vital. The long bursts don’t seem to have gaps for a mag change. I hear no single shots on the part tape I listened to.

        It’s too easy to race ahead without full info however…

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    • Former lurker says:

      It’s in the realm of the possible. It’s hard to think like a psycho, but there is a certain sick logic to the idea of having a bunch of semi-auto fireams altered to go full auto, each with a drum magazine. You burn through the drum, ditch the hopelessly overheated weapon, rinse and repeat. I’m sure he’d launch rounds all over the place, but enough would hit the target zone to cause a lot of damage, and the noise would add to the panic. Perhaps the breaks in the firing were because of stoppages. Once that’s done it’s on to the more conventional semi-auto weapons, with a handgun to take the coward’s way out once the cops arrive.

      It’s chilling to think what a true machine gun, as in belt fed, tripod mounted and with a quick change barrel or water cooling could do to a crowd at that distance. Five hundred yards isn’t that far for that kind of ordnance.

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  13. kittytrump84 says:

    So I heard an officer say there are at least 2 shooters between 19-20 minute mark. Also, how did the security guard get shot in the leg in that same time frame since no shooter is down yet?

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    • Exactly on the security guard, he was by the elevator on thirty-second floor. Scanner said shots were fired on the twenty-ninth and thirty-second floor with at least two shooters on the twenty-ninth floor with automatic weapons. Requested cameras for both floors. Confusing, wonder if the security guard was shot by shooters going to floor 29, escaping maybe. That was painful to listen to, quit at about thirty five minutes.

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    • Sandra-VA says:

      Yes, I heard 2 shooters as well.

      The security guard was shot after responding to customer complaint about the gun shots from that room (it was the guy next door). Shooter had cameras set up to observe LE approach and he shot at the 2 guards that showed up.

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    • Mist'ears Mom says:

      Here is a piece of Jeff Rense’s analysis of rate-of-fire vs. people struck by bullets. It cuts to the core of the absurd lone shooter assumption:
      “…a potential MAXIMUM of only 360 rounds could be fired at full auto burst with NO magazine changes in the approximate four minutes or 240 seconds of the shooting!”
      “So, Paddock didn’t fire 360 rounds in 240 seconds because he had to stop and change magazines…probably 30 round mags. That would be THIRTEEN magazine changes in the 240 seconds. And it is reported he fired from both broken out windows in the room/s.”
      “Survivors state there were shooting pauses and that is when they would run.”
      “Let’s say Paddock managed to get off an amazing 300 rounds in 4 minutes (or 240 seconds) and hit someone with EVERY ROUND.”
      “Remember, there were 573 killed and wounded according to late statistics.”
      “WHO, then, fired off the other full-auto 273 rounds also without missing a single shot ?!”

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      • InEssence says:

        I think you are underestimating the guns. I sounded to me like he was shooting 2 or 3 bullets per second or maybe 150 per minute. Then he would have 600 shots. Some shots would injure multiple people. I’m not arguing for a lone shooter, I’m just saying that the guns were firing faster than 90 shots per minute.

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  14. kittytrump84 says:

    So I heard an officer say there are at least 2 shooters between 19-20 minute mark. Also, how did the security guard get shot in the leg in that same time frame since no shooter is down yet?

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    • Trent Telenko says:

      KittyTrump84

      The Shooter had Go Pro type camera’s with motion detectors rigged on the hotel doors and hallway.

      He was operating from a position of better surveillance to respond to security and law enforcement.

      The Shooter could simply react faster to security/law enforcement probes and seem like two shooters.

      We haven’t had a high tech suicide murder before. The new manuals have to be written for that..

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    • andi lee says:

      Also, per police scanner: Strobe light, 1/3 way up MB; Motel 6, shots fired, rifle involved; MIL fatigue-clad man with black bag entered an RV; black chevy truck sped out of parking lot; shots fired Mandalay Bay parking garage. Amazing incredible work & the efficiency of this police department. God bless them all.

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  15. David R. Graham says:

    The forensics interest me.

    Two windows shot out. Multiple shooters? Corner suite or two rooms? And who spirited all that heavy ammo and its magazines up there, not to mention the long guns? A team? Actual shooters on the run, patsy dead? Hunters with rifles in cases would not be unusual, but still … the amounts?

    Room reported rented 28SEP. Shooting on 01OCT. Three days to prep the op, which went off on, what?, the third day of the music festival, after everyone was settled in the groove and inattentive? This was planned and that means a team to include logistics network.

    A video online shows a .223 AR firing I think 90 rounds from a double circulation magazine in the space of roughly two minutes without melting the barrel.

    A semi-auto .223 AR can be bump-fired fast enough to sound almost like a full auto.

    Even into a packed crowd, one shooter, even an expert, hitting that many people in the space of an hour or less at that range sounds fishy to me.

    The high number of wounded compared to the number of deceased suggests to me the distance to target affected the effectiveness of fire. LEO would know that the distance would do that and would not return fire from the ground in this situation for that reason alone.

    One commenter suggested return fire with a 30/30, as if someone on the ground would be packing one. But a 30/30 is a short range small deer rifle, 100 yards or less. Pictures show some LEO holding shotguns, effective range barely 300 feet depending on the load.

    I keep coming back to a planned hit, probably political (left on normals, as at Republican baseball practice), very likely also religious (Islam is a political system masquerading as a religion and the Leftism/Islam alliance is now patent) multiple shooters who flew the scene before LEO arrived — lookouts watching the hotel entrances to warn the shooters? — and possibly the dead body a patsy. Speculation based on what the forensics reported so far suggest to me at this point.

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    • I agree with you, that he was a patsy. This was well organized murder of deplorables.

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    • kea25252014 says:

      I mentioned the curtains in another thread. Why didn’t he pull those down. Its clear the two windows caused a draft. Why let them get in the way?

      Also how easy is it to bust open those windows? COuld that have ‘happened’ later on?

      If there was someone on the 4th or 10th floor I’m almost reminded of the movie ‘entrapment’ where she opens a window and closes it again. No one knows they were there.

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  16. Roger Duroid says:

    Those new digital audio police radios are so difficult to understand, like someone speaking with heavy robot accent. Amazing that they all seem to understand each other.

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  17. TimeIsNow says:

    The stage lights went full dark, then were turned back on, lighting the crowd, and this was after the shooting started. I’ll wait as initial material is still not complete.Gun shots seemed too loud to be coming from 300 yards away.

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  18. Mark Johnson says:

    Juxtaposition:

    Michael Bennett last month ran away from a perceived threat, yet these officers are running towards this very real threat. self centered myopic Coward/hypocrite vs. selfless heroes.

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  19. trumpsbamagirl says:

    419- Dead body

    I couldn’t count them all.

    There are no words.

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  20. bessie2003 says:

    It’s simply amazing how the officers and the dispatch personnel were able to stay focused while all h-ll was breaking loose, to be able to stay on top of their mission while suspecting everyone and everything as possible bad guys while looking to protect others by clearing floors as they established a foothold. They had no idea if it was a ‘lone-wolf’ or a group of people, if it was one point of aggression or several points from different angles.

    Thanks for sharing the audio. I’m sure police departments everywhere will be able to learn and adjust their tactics.

    Good going LVPD!

    It’s also nice to see local police being allowed to follow through while leaving the federal agencies, the FBI and ATF to focus on what they do best.

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    • Max Hathaway says:

      WTF are you talking about??—It took these cowards 75 minutes to asssaul tthe hotel rooms.

      In that 75 minutes, at least half of the vitims probablty bled to death lying there.

      It almost sounds like the corrupt democrap LVcop were in on it. Schit, they basiclaly let the shooter use up all his ammo.

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      • bessie2003 says:

        Las Vegas has a lot of areas where those shots could have come from; there could have been more than one person doing the shooting; lots of people in panic, not really knowing what’s going on or what direction to run and the police had to see through all of that and see past the havoc and find where the shots were coming from, and make their plan while all h-ll was breaking loose.

        That is a 40+ floor complex, there were 20,000+ people at the venue, and the police had no idea what they were dealing with.

        It’s easy to make judgments in hindsight. And that was only one channel we were listening to, am sure there were several others going on at the same time, and these things had to be coordinated as well as making sure first aid could safely get there.

        I don’t see the LVPD in any way being cowards.

        They had to assume there was more than one shooter, possibly explosives, maybe a daesh attack.

        That’s what I’m talking about.

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      • bessie2003 says:

        Another example, as told by the local station, the LVPD was getting reports of shots being fired from at least 5 different casinos and they had to work through everything assuming those reports could be true.

        http://www.ktvn.com/story/36504789/vetting-the-misleading-information-on-social-media-following-las-vegas-shooting

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      • Trent Telenko says:

        Two hotel guards were ambushed by the shooter through the door and wall of the shooters hotel room via exterior cameras.

        The return fire from them seems to have wounded the shooter in the leg, assuming the stories I read are valid.

        At this point the shooter stopped firing at the stage area 15 to 25 minutes into the shooting.

        The Vegas tac-team had to come up with a plan to neutralize the shooters edge in surveillance prior to assaulting the room, NOT knowing where else the shooter had wired his surveillance gear.

        I’m impressed they did it that quickly.

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  21. jello333 says:

    At about the 20:40 mark, one of the cops all the other cops to make sure they all have their car doors locked because…. “citizens are going in trying to grab shotguns”. !!! In other words, people are NOT willing to just be sitting ducks… they’re gonna do what they have to do to protect themselves from the presumed terrorists. It’s weird, but this makes me really PROUD.

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  22. IMO says:

    Joe Napoli and his wife were attending the concert at Mandalay Bay Hotel in Las Vegas when automatic weapon fire broke out. Joe and his wife are safe after an hours long.
    ordeal.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qHt_UMmq2I&sns=em

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  23. Marica says:

    I truly believe the shooter wanted to kill as many Trump supporters as possible. I wish I am wrong..
    After I saw the video of the lighters during GOD BLESS AMERICA–Well– I am concluding,,,

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  24. andi lee says:

    Prayers, please, for this police officer, that she made it to the hospital and will recover fully.

    @26:59 Officer keys in… [sirens] female audible, gasping or crying. Ends 27:17.

    @28:49 [Mic keyed 2 seconds, siren in background]

    @29:20 [siren blaring] [male officer transmission stepped on] [inaudible] short breaths, [inaudible] “I’m down … [inaudible] .. officer … [inaudible]”. [sirens] “I’m down … I’m down” … [inaudible] … “good girl”[?]…[inaudible].

    @29:55 [Dispatch:] “Key number 5620”. [inaudible] “Key number 5620”. [inaudible] “You got to give me a number, open mic, repeat”. [inaudible] “USA open mic, open mic”. [inaudible]. Ends @30:34

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  25. andi lee says:

    Strange. Padden lived & worked in Mesquite Texas, at one point. Hadn’t heard that. Apartment mgr?

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  26. They sure seem to be talking about multiple shooters quite a long way into this audio.

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