Trump’s “Disappointment” – An Example of What AG Jeff Sessions Refuses To Address…

Many opinions are visible on the subject of President Trump questioning the focus and competency of Attorney General Jeff Sessions.  With that in mind perhaps it’s worthwhile pointing out a simple example of internal DOJ corruption that AG Sessions is intentionally avoiding.

In October 2015 the Department of Justice (DOJ) announced it was dropping the investigation into the IRS, Lois Lerner, and the unlawful sharing of taxpayer data in the IRS targeting investigation surrounding True The Vote et al.  The decision was laughable. The DOJ dropped an investigation into illegal activity conducted by the DOJ? Oh, ok..

As a direct consequence of the DOJ decision, congressional inquiry into the IRS/DOJ targeting matter seemingly dropped from the radar and disappeared into the ether of the Swamp without anyone paying much attention.

However, if you review the origin of the entire IRS/DOJ scheme, the post-2010 mid-term “shellacking” and “secret research project“, and carry it forward to the 2016 election result any interested observer would still be left asking:

A: “why did the IRS, through Lois Lerner, deliver 1+ million pages of tax filings, to include the entire donor list of Tea Party and patriot groups including every “schedule B” with the names of every contributor to the organization, through 21 CD-ROMs to the DOJ?  And B: Who did she deliver them to?…

This questions are not some esoteric enterprise or hindsight review unworthy of investigation.  The background to the factual distribution of IRS data to the DOJ was not accidental; nor did the actual material arrive at some disingenuous DOJ office.  These files were illegally distributed from the IRS to the DOJ and ended up in the hands of actual DOJ officials.  Who are they?

These are brutally obvious questions which, despite the numerous congressional hearings on the matter, were never asked – nor answered.

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The entire scheme is riddled with complexity; almost too complex for the average person to understand, and seriously difficult to summarize. However, when you boil it down here’s the essential components that are no longer suspicion or supposition, but factually provable:

As a result of a trillion dollar stimulus filled with scheme and graft; and as a result of Obamacare being similarly schemed in backroom deals and late night votes; President Obama was “shellacked” in the November 2010 election.

The White House didn’t see the 2010 defeat a flawed policy issue; rather as the entrenched ideologues they are, they saw the SCOTUS case “citizens united” as the principle tool used by the White House opponents to organize and fund political movements, ie. the tea party.

The Obama Team response to the 2010 Shellacking was to use the Dept. of Justice (AG Eric Holder) to weaponize the IRS and go after groups -like Tea Party Groups- organized under the financial umbrella of 501(c)(4)(5) donation structuring.

Years later, when the scheme was discovered – the White House denied knowledge (“not even a smidgen of corruption”), the DOJ feigned ignorance (“we don’t know why we got the millions of pages”), and the IRS began working overtime trying to hide the construct of the prior communication, planning and strategy.

  • The head of IRS tax exempt division, Louis Lerner, plead the Fifth.
  • Obama’s Chief of Staff Jack Lew was made Treasury Secretary (IRS is sub division of Treasury Dept.) where he was/is able to continue hiding information.
  • And Eric Holder constructed a team of DOJ lawyers to isolate, hide and manipulate the trail of evidence within the DOJ.

Just before the IRS targeting scheme was fully discovered/comprehended, and seemingly overlooked by any curious media enterprise, in February 2013 representative Maxine Waters said:

“The President has put in place an organization with the kind of database that no one has ever seen before in life. That’s going to be very, very powerful. That database will have information about everything on every individual on ways that it’s never been done before and whoever runs for President on the Democratic ticket has to deal with that. They’re going to go down with that database and the concerns of those people because they can’t get around it. And he’s [President Obama] been very smart. It’s very powerful what he’s leaving in place.” (link)

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Against, the backdrop of information which proved the UniParty, both dems and republicans, benefited from the targeting of the Tea Party and oppositional forces; and with the full comprehension that Mitch McConnell and the republican leadership organized a post Citizens United strategy to work around their financial dependency on the electorate via Super-PACs; aren’t you just a little bit curious what the purpose was to assemble a data-base or “Secret Research Project“?

Lois Lerner’s and other IRS officials’ concerns about how to handle these donor lists came on the heels of an advisory from the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA) to her and other IRS officials in late March 2012 of “an audit we plan to conduct of the IRS’s process for reviewing applications for tax exemption by potential section 501(c)(4), 501(c)(5), and 501(c)(6) organizations.”

March 2012audit we plan to conduct” was the IG notification for a pending investigation of IRS. Specifically of their handling of Conservative Groups filing applications and status.

We all know the result of that investigation was a finding the IRS was indeed targeting conservative groups – hence the IRS scandal erupted in the headlines.

However, far more troubling were later discoveries into the internal communications which suggested much more nefarious activity regarding the assembly of secret lists, the “Secret Research Project”.

An undertaking by both the Obama Administration and the DOJ together with the IRS began to surface.

The American Center for Law and Justice put it thusly:

“We know the IRS unconstitutionally targeted conservative groups. We know they illegally demanded, obtained, and held the donor lists of these conservative organizations. Now we learn that in 2012, the height of the targeting, the IRS was involved in a “secret research project” with this confidential, illegally obtained donor information.”

That’s more than a big deal. It’s potentially criminal.

The very fact that the IRS was using the phrase “secret research project” should give every American pause. But the fact that this project was conducted as part of a well-orchestrated effort to target and silence conservative Americans is utterly disturbing.

Now, again, ask yourself:

Why would Lois Lerner be delivering 21 CD-ROMs of data, lists of every American who joined arms with the Tea Party, to Eric Holder at the DOJ ?  And who specifically did she give it to?

WASHINGTON […] “After the Justice Department turned over the database to the Oversight Committee this month in response to a subpoena, the Justice Department says it was informed by IRS officials that it contains legally protected taxpayer information that should not have ever been sent to the FBI and it now plans to return the full database to the IRS,” a statement from the oversight committee said.

According to material obtained by the committee, the IRS sent the FBI “21 disks constituting a 1.1 million page database of information from 501(c)(4) tax exempt organizations, to the Federal Bureau of Investigation.”

The transaction occurred in October 2010. (link)

The data the IRS sent to the DOJ not only included the tax returns of every organization, it also included the “schedule B’s” of each of those returns.  That means the DOJ received the list of every single person who contributed to one of the organizations.  That’s much more information than just the IRS filings of the organizations themselves.

Are we to believe the DOJ just did nothing with that massive list of U.S. citizens who contributed to any political 501(c) group?  Are we to believe those disks just sat in an office somewhere until the DOJ decided to return them?

Think about this and be intellectually honest.

Who authorized creating those CD-ROM’s?  Who, specifically, received them at the DOJ? What, specifically was done after their arrival?  Who specifically was involved in all of this?  We are talking about multiple layers of people in various levels of authorization.

This is actual evidence the DOJ was weaponized against a large portion of the American electorate.  This reality is not in dispute. This actually happened.  Yet, no-one has ever been held to account.  Why?

If you wonder why the entire corrupt DC political class is openly in opposition to President Donald J Trump…. And if you wonder why President Donald Trump is expressing public frustrations with his Attorney General…. Well,… Perhaps Attorney General Jeff Sessions could begin by just asking these simple questions of his own organization.

Too much to ask?



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782 Responses to Trump’s “Disappointment” – An Example of What AG Jeff Sessions Refuses To Address…

  1. kensme says:

    A good manager, CEO or not, treats subordinates with respect and dignity. Public belittling or chastising is tyrannical and places underlings in a state of captivity which erodes self esteem. In the case of Mr. Sessions, who personifies integrity, Mr. Trump exposes his natural tendency toward arrogance and pomposity. A self indulgent love of himself. We can only hope his patriotism supercedes his ego.

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    • Guy K. says:

      Concern noted.

      Liked by 7 people

    • Sedanka says:



    • kittytrump84 says:

      I it safe to assume you have superseded PRESIDENT Trumps success?

      Liked by 3 people

    • Rock Knutne says:

      Hey kensme. It’s probably a good thing George Patton wasn’t worried about his underlings self esteem because you would have had to post your snowflake post in German.

      Liked by 46 people

    • paulinohio says:

      Thank you for visiting the Treehouse and your concern has been duly noted.

      In fact, we’ll make sure to add that to Bluto’s list.

      > Trump won’t win
      > Stock market will crash
      > He won’t help create jobs
      > >> He doesn’t know how to run anything. (You are here)

      Liked by 29 people

    • evergreen says:

      I think Sessions’ self esteem is the root of this problem. Now is a good time to burst that bubble and inject some reality.

      Liked by 5 people

      • mj_inOC says:

        evergreen, there are many layers of trust, loyalty, admiration and goals btw AG Sessions and our POTUS.

        Self esteem is NOT an issue.

        BOTH men are CONFIDENT in who [and Whose] they are!

        Liked by 1 person

        • lftrn97 says:

          Sessions’ problem is that he prepared for his executive career by serving long term in Senate–the exact wrong training for a position that requires independent thinking, decision making and definitive action. These are the anthisis of a “good” ineffective Senator.

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      • vincent cuomo says:

        I don’t give a hoot about Session’s self esteem; is he going to help drain the swamp or clean out the sewer; i am beginning to wonder if he is one of those half hearted Trump supporters; loved the rallies; loved the crowds; loved the slogans; won’t do the heavy lifting in draining the swamp.

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        • deborah foster says:

          Good thinking. Most of those swamp creatures are friends of Sessions. Have you also noticed how none of those swamp dwellers ever picked on Sessions for his “supposed” Trump support? I wonder why that is? They haven’t bothered hiding their Trump hate ever.

          Liked by 2 people

    • Former lurker says:

      I’m sick of good managers.

      I want a bold leader.

      Deplorable, I know, but hey, that’s me.

      Liked by 19 people

    • LM says:

      President Trump personifies integrity, with the courage to make it real and effective rather than a self serving label he crows about.

      President Trump has laid aside his life of privilega and favor in order to honor God and serve the people of this country.

      Jeff Sessions has a job to do, which includes enforcing the rule of law and applying it equally to all political classes of people and every social strata that exists in our country. His job is not to avoid ruffling the feathers of loud mouthed evil doers who happened to have gained power and ruled our country in the past thereby enabling them to seize power unlawfully and continue their reign.

      If President Trump expresses disappointment about the AG, then the AG needs to examine himself and his agenda and adjust what needs to be addressed accordingly.

      I don’t know who you are but your judgmental attitude toward a man of great heart and courage–a man who actually helps people rather than works for nefarious, self-serving, political purposes, a man who gives of his hard earned money rather than lining his pockets at the expense of others–tells me you yourself are a self righteous pompous person who thinks himself better than others and therefore in a position to pass judgement.

      I respectfully suggest that you take a good long look in the mirror before you start talking about self-love, self indulgence, arrogance, and pomposity in others.

      Liked by 32 people

    • mj_inOC says:

      Respectfully request you go to another site…

      There are numerous layers of expertise, strategy, and side bars in this President.

      Liked by 5 people

    • Alexsandra says:

      Kens-ME, here is the short secular version of my earlier post, just for you::

      We have a leader. Some are complaining about his loyalty. What about our loyalty to him? I sensed from early on that he would give up everything to help us and this country, except for changing his personality. And he did not hide his personality, so that was no secret. This man has worked endlessly for us for no money whatsoever. He just gave away his second paycheck to the Department of Education. And that is small potatoes compared to the money he could have made since he announced. Where is the gratitude — I see the judgment and condemnation — but where is the gratitude?

      Do you think Jeff Sessions could make America Great Again? Then you have chosen wrongly. …. at least try to be marginally grateful and supportive. This man has slings and arrows tossed at him every second. And now a bunch of judgmental friendly fire?

      Liked by 25 people

    • Deb says:

      It’s not “tyrannical.” If Sessions doesn’t like it he can quit.

      Every time a NeverTrumper starts talking about PDJT as if he is a tyrant, they need to think about what it would be like if Hillary had won.

      Liked by 9 people

      • Brant says:

        If HRC had won, they would be getting their toilet paper as Venezuela pres seems to be giving his loyal soldiers. RINOs would be getting nothing or scraps and they would love it because they would still get to go to parties, could still rant about Obamacare (or single payer by now) and vote to repeal it another 30 times. They would be loving life. Not working and especially would not be being called out about not working.

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      • marcusoutrageous says:

        Comment deleted by Admin…

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    • Sessions should have stepped down by now. He refuses to and Trump doesn’t want to be seen to fire him. DJT is applying pressure.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Pancho says:

      That ridiculous comment of yours reveals that you didn’t READ Sundance’s article. Real criminality took place under Obama. Selah. Pause and think about that.

      Liked by 3 people

    • Duke Taber says:

      You get a participation trophy for this post.

      Liked by 2 people

    • Texian says:

      Snowflake drivel..

      He didn’t put anybody ‘in a state of captivity’ – each person is ultimately responsible for their own ‘self-esteem.’ It’s about time we have an arrogant President representing All American values for a change – and I’m glad he loves himself very much, and that he has a big ego too..

      Liked by 7 people

    • rf121 says:

      Amazing. Kensme was not called a troll by one of the true believers. You guys are slacking.


    • Curry Worsham says:

      Unless he is playing… one BILLION D chess!


    • marcusoutrageous says:

      Comment deleted by Admin…

      Liked by 3 people

    • Juzjon says:

      Baloney, I am a CEO and if subordinates do not get the job done I don’t care about PC! I insist on quality job performance and so does my President.

      Liked by 6 people

    • peace says:

      You’re assuming the President Trump didn’t talk to Mr. Sessions. Shame on you. For all we know, he did have a private conversation and it wasn’t productive. Mr. Sessions has a duty to investigate the many injustices within the DOJ to right the justice ship. America First – not Mr. Sessions.

      Liked by 3 people

    • GeminiCusp says:

      I concur.


    • nobaddog says:

      I was under the impression the swamp was going to be drained by Sessions. the previous administration seems to be emboldened by the lack of investigations. There walking around taunting the president like peacocks. I thought by now they would be ratting each other out and laying low. Maybe the president knows somethings wrong here in the DOJ not investigating these people and the criticism is warranted. Thats what i think. I was hoping the job was going to be done by Sessions but we need a tough AH going after these people. And right now!

      Liked by 3 people

    • R-C says:

      Your opinion placed in the circular file. I STAND WITH TRUMP, and not with you.

      Liked by 2 people

    • Will Janoschka says:

      FO ass


    • Horsehocky……A good manager takes control of his employees in whatever way s/he has to, to get the mission accomplished.

      Sessions has done absolutely nothing that matters in the five months he has been in office. In fact, recusing himself from all the problems that we are facing right now, means he is not even an effective, acting AG.

      Sessions has simply dropped the ball. He needs to get his act together, or go back to Alabama.

      I have always been a Sessions supporter. In fact when I got the poll from the Trump campaign as to who he should pick for AG, I wrote in the name Jeff Sessions.

      However, he is showing me today that just like Trump, I made the wrong choice….Prove me wrong Jeff, right this do-nothing ship.

      Liked by 4 people

      • AM says:

        “Sessions has done absolutely nothing that matters in the five months he has been in office. In fact, recusing himself from all the problems that we are facing right now, means he is not even an effective, acting AG.”

        How do you know this? I keep seeing press releases that he is getting things done with the drug cartels, etc. Isn’t that Dem IT staffer under his watch? (<–Correct me on this one, I need to look it up.)

        It makes no sense to what Trump did. If you what state is actually true, Trump should fire Sessions right now and start over. You don't give NYT interviews about your disappointment. You just don't, if you're effective.

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        • lfhbrave says:

          He is watching an on-going armed bank robbery across the street and decides to write a ticket to a jaywalker.

          Liked by 5 people

        • Well, first, I mean no disrespect to any of my fellow Tree Dwellers, but it looks like we are going to disagree on this one…..

          The Dem IT staffer is certainly under the DOJ watch, I do not know if that got all the way up to Sessions or not. It probably did…..

          His main problem is that the DOJ has a press department, why are they not using this to let us know what they are doing?

          Sessions acted like a guy with girded loins ready to do battle before his confirmation and just seemed to lay down and do nothing, after it.

          Look at the evidence against the Clinton foundation, the Dem AG’s obstruction of justice, hammer destroying of cell phones and laptops (destruction of evidence–a felony), Podesta’s Russian and Ukrainian contacts where money was exchanged, leakers, leakers, everywhere even in our White House and Intelligence Agencies–James Comey committing felonies, then the dirty appointing of Comey’s best friend, Meuller to cover it all up and instead come after Trump…..

          This is all happening in the DOJ under the watch of Sessions. Something stinks to high heaven.

          And then he recuses himself as to everything that matters to the Trump base??

          As Trump has said publicly, if he was going to do this, why did he just not tell him, and he would have appointed someone else in that job?

          The DOJ is simply a mess…..and it has to be fixed. Apparently Sessions is just not up to that job.

          He needs to shape up, or ship out. I personally love Jeff Session–but sorry, my country and my President come first in my priorities.

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        • formerdem says:

          those things were probably begun under Obama and if Sessions were ever so imprudent as to praise Trump that is what his staff would say, that he is bragging about stuff that began before him. those staffers are kissing on him now but they will think it is funny if he falls into this trap they have set, trusts them, and is shocked by their betrayal. ha ha, they will think that is delicious.


    • progpoker says:

      Annnnnnnddd…kensme has left the building!

      Just another hit and run troll. If he truly believed what he said he’d at least hang around to defend it. #Pathetic

      Liked by 1 person

    • He can’t even talk to Sessions in private.

      Liked by 1 person

    • georgebauer3 says:

      How do you know he didn’t talk to him pivately first and got blown off.
      With what is happening with the IT scandle and only being charged with bank fraud?
      Where’s the treason charges? That’s Session’s job and he isn’t doing it. Unfortunatley, the President is stuck with him because if he does fire him who will replece him? Washington is defending Washington and taking our country down with it.
      I believe Sessions is Washington.

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    • Jenny R. says:

      If your job is to prosecute the law, uphold the Constitution, and defend the Republic…how can you personify integrity if you don’t go after things that are: criminal, unconstitutional, and could destroy the Republic?
      Sessions has been good on many things — I would even grant him the recusal on muh Russia election, as it could be seen as indeed personifying integrity — but on this he has indeed slipped.

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    • RG says:

      I believe this is Trump’s way of sending a message to those in congress that their friend and colleague is known as being protective of his relationship with them and he is calling out the swamp protection racket. This way, when Sessions begins to do the real dirty work and his “friends” come calling, Sessions will have the defense of “the devil is making me do these things.” Trump knows Sessions is in a catch 22 with his buddies and he is showing the world that he is the boss.
      Under other circumstances, he would simply replace Sessions but when his congressional buddies have their underwear in a twist, that won’t/can’t happen. When Trump says, “if he had been honest with me, I would have chosen someone else,” I think he is telling us that Sessions was less than honest on several fronts in the beginning.
      Turning up the heat on Sessions may get the results that we, the people, deserve and want. I have been reading for months as people have been questioning “when” is Sessions going to do his job?

      Liked by 2 people

      • Comrade Mope says:

        It’s all part of the lead-up. sessions will charge Trump with the Russia BS just to get it into court, the media will have a field day and then- poof. No proof. Everyone involved will be called to testify and that puts them under oath. Trump is exonerated, the leakers have a bad day, the media looks even more stupid than they already do.

        It’s set up to fail.


    • Linda Smith says:

      I think that Sessions has focused on what he is most interested in and that is illegal aliens infiltrating our country and States/Cities breaking Federal Law (i.e. Marijuana, Sanctuary Cities, etc.)

      Being in Washington, the swamp critters can only walk but not chew gum at the same time, a business person can do both. Sessions may have been in the swamp too long. There are many investigations that need urgent attention and one of them is the leaking and another is the Clinton/Obama crime syndicate. Also, Sessions recusing himself from the Russia thing showed weakness. As DOJ, you should not hamstring yourself. If he can’t do his full job he should leave or take only a partial salary.

      I have really liked Sessions for a long time, but he has not been a business person and he needs to learn to step it up. First objective, clean the DOJ of Obama holdovers and then clean the swamp in general.

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    • John Joseph says:

      So that’s what you took out of this article? Concern for the AG’s self esteem? A little ridiculous don’t you think , being you probably have not nor ever will know Mr Sessions personally enough to decide whether his Self Esteem has been damaged? I think you need to re-think your concerns based upon the current state of our government. If the worst thing to get damaged is AG’s esteem in the fight ahead or behind well….price worth paying for all who got shut down illegally by the IRS, what about their self esteem?

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    • kiskiminetas says:

      kensme, you seem to be down with some uniparty rhetoric. Also with the comments you made seem to be a qausi DJT supporter. “Treepers” (the moniker for the Trump acolytes here) are riding the Trump Train, thinking the uniparty is lame, following OUR PRESIDENT without any shame and are in for the long haul because we are going to win this game.

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    • tgmccoy says:

      How about the concern that the Pak IT people may have compromised National Security.? Hmmm
      BTW theis is far far bigger than “muh Russia ” ever was.
      come on, Mr. Sessions-light the fuse..

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    • olderwiser21 says:

      Why is it self-indulgent to love yourself? Don’t you worry about President Trump’s patriotism one little bit.


    • Are you brain dead?Sessions won’t investigate the IRS scandal among many others

      Liked by 1 person

    • dstarke says:

      That’s your management style. Allow President Trump his. When things are this sideways, its hard to worry about morale and hurt feelings.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Sandhill says:

      I do not know what President Trump has said to AG Sessions in private for the last 6 months concerning what President Trump wants investigated by the AG. However I knew when Scaramuchi (sp?) was put into the communications position that Trump’s playing by the establishment rules were now history. the Lion has emerged and Mr.Nice has retired. President Trump was expecting a lot better job performance from AG Sessions than he has seen up to this point, hence the gloves have been removed.

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    • zaq123 says:

      You’re right, in the sense, about publicly chastising/belittling. But, I’ll say this, the President cannot order the AG to do anything. The AG and DoJ are supposed to act independently of anyone, as criminal investigations are supposed to be fair and impartial. obama and his admin showed, for 8 years, that this is/was not the case. Both holder and lynch should be investigated for all their deeds.

      But, to the point of the article, one of the reasons that Donald Trump is now, President Trump, is he was going to drain the swamp. He is/was going to hold people responsible for what they did. He told America…”You’d be in jail”, one night.

      IMHO, in picking Sessions, he may have seen a man that would kick the door to the DoJ off the hinges, start tossing bodies out the door like a dive bar, bouncer and start getting to work. Maybe he is. Maybe, we’ll find out, with the alleged press conference about “leakers” happening, we’ll learn that there’s all sorts of stuff going on. But……

      Lois Lerner committed crimes against the American people. The obama DoJ, let her walk, She wasn’t acquitted of anything, so double jeopardy does not apply. Again, IMHO, the people want to start seeing these people have to answer for their acts and that doesn’t seem to be happening.

      The President cannot ask the AG or the DoJ to investigate that. However, maybe the President has figured out a way to light a fire under the butt of Sessions to let him know that there’s some business that needs to be attended to, because if he tried to do it “confidentially”, we all now that the transcripts for that conversation would be printed on the front page of the NYT and WaPo, within minutes.

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    • Donna in Oregon says:

      Ah, but somehow President Trump avoids the impression that he has super secret meetings planning the Clinton cabal’s arrest and conviction…… doesn’t he?? Snicker.

      Where is the collusion if it is in YOUR face? bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


    • formerdem says:

      He has to do it in public because if he does it in private it will bring on an investigation of collusion or whatever, as happened with Comey re Flynn.


  2. mikebrezzze says:

    I think it’s Comey tomorrow in the news, he’s going under a criminal investigation!

    Liked by 1 person

  3. youme says:

    No one seems to remember the second IRS scandal, the alleged release of confidential taxpayer data to the White House:

    The IRS improperly turned over thousands of confidential tax documents to the White House for review, according to information obtained from a lawsuit filed against the U.S. Treasury Department’s inspector general by the legal advocacy firm Cause of Action, exposing a pipeline of communication between the two, the Daily Caller reports.

    “[T]he Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA) informed Cause of Action that there exist nearly 2,500 potentially responsive documents relating to investigations of improper disclosures of confidential taxpayer information by the IRS to the White House,” Cause of Action noted, according to the Daily Caller.

    Enough Already On IRS Targeting! Maybe, But Whose Tax Returns Went To White House And Why?
    A judge ruled that the IRS must turn over any relevant documents to Cause of Action. The Treasury Inspector General admitted that it has thousands of pages of responsive documents containing private taxpayer data. That admission seems conclusive. We just do not know whose tax records they are and who at the White House wanted them. Why would communications between the IRS and the White House contain confidential taxpayer information that by law is restricted to the IRS?

    The Treasury Inspector General withheld nearly all of the 2,500 documents it located related to unauthorized IRS leaks to the White House. It released only 31 pages, 27 of which were already publicly available. Eventually, we hope to see them all, but that is still not certain. Regardless of whether the White House asked for any taxpayer information or someone at the IRS just sent it (‘hey, take a look at this…’), the IRS transmitted some.

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    • linda7780 says:

      The facts are that we have depts. In the justice system and many other depts., especially the IRS, who used their positions of authority to abuse certain members in this country. This should NEVER be acceptable no matter who is in charge. I don”t know why the DOJ is not bringing down the hammer on this abuse but, the fact that it is even an acceptable form of government in a/ supposedly free society is ludicrous and immoral. Enough of this nonsense!!!

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      • linda7780 says:

        I should have said certain groups of people rather than “members”.


      • dstarke says:

        The DOJ is not bringing down the hammer because they are complicit. They all need to go.

        Liked by 2 people

        • dayallaxeded says:

          DOJ/FBI were ordered not to bring down the hammer and not to do any investigation of the IRS/Demonrat criminality. If there’s any investigation or even a file on it, it’s very thin, preliminary, and closed, if not destroyed. This would be a brand new, ground up investigation. It would be an investigation requiring exceptional patriotism and fortitude against corruption and dedication. Deciding who, within DOJ/FBI is going to lead and staff such an investigation and ultimate prosecution is a major, critical undertaking. Sessions would have to vet many AAGs to know who those people should be.

          He legally cannot just fire all the Klintoon and 0 hires–rank and file federal employees are legally protected from that kind of partisan housecleaning. Sessions has to develop files to show cause, if he wants to fire people. Right now he is turning the DOJ from an SJW, anti-LE extortion racket, back onto a LE mission path. That takes some time. In the meantime, he’s racking up real-world significant LE successes and showing his people that’s where their duty and accolades lie from now on. It’s the right way to go.

          If people around here really want immediate action on prior Demonrat malfeasances, sedition, and treason, turn your attention to Pompeo–WTF is he doing? That’s the agency with immediate black ops capabilities. There’s a few people involved with Klintoon Krime Kartel who could get irregularly renditioned and wouldn’t that and the intel obtained make something hit the fan!


  4. Marica says:

    No one has brought up Stephen Miller–Who we all know was brought in by then Senator Sessions and writes many of PDJT’s speeches–maybe even his tweets?! just joking.. Stephen Miller is a rock star! and as loyal as they come to both Sessions–and to President Trump…hmmmm As an advisor in his inner circle–right? Where would he stand in all of this? I would truly hate to lose him…

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    • Just Sayin' says:

      If Stephen Miller is the kind of guy his speeches make him seem to be… then he’d want to see the swamp drained

      Fingers crossed that they’ll find a way to work together to drain it.

      But it’s gotta be drained, one way or the other.

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    • mj_inOC says:

      Yes, Stephen Miller is well aware and loyal to both… God bless him!

      Liked by 1 person

    • Bull Durham says:

      There are a number of Sessions’ staff that came into the WH staff in various roles.
      He had a very strong national security staff.
      Miller is the most well-known.
      Trump’s Deputy chief of staff Rick Dearborn, Sessions’s longtime chief of staff in the Senate.

      Please read this article closely. It is stunning in details. Here’s a sample:

      Sessions helped devise Trump’s first-week strategy, in which the president signed a blizzard of executive orders that begin to fulfill his signature campaign promises – although Sessions had advocated going even faster.

      The senator lobbied for a “shock-and-awe” period of executive action that would rattle Congress, impress Trump’s base and catch his critics unaware, according to two officials involved in the transition planning. Trump opted for a slightly slower pace, these officials said, because he wanted to maximize news coverage by spreading out his directives over several weeks.

      Read it all, slowly. Absorb the facts.

      Liked by 7 people

      • Sherlock says:

        Very interesting.


      • WSB says:


        Huh? What do we make of it?


      • Curry Worsham says:

        OK, Bull, I read it (slowly) and I am more convinced than ever that this whole exercise is a decoy operation. A sting, if you will. PDJT and Sessions are too close. The tweets and comments don’t make sense in this context. You seem to be pointing that out.

        “From immigration and health care to national security and trade, Sessions is the intellectual godfather of the president’s policies.”

        “… Bannon described Sessions as “the clearinghouse for policy and philosophy” in Trump’s administration, saying he and the senator are joined at the center of Trump’s “pro-America movement” and the global nationalist phenomenon.”

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        • Dakotacav says:

          SESSIONS is IN ON THE PLAY here


        • VickyD says:

          I am of the same mindset, Curry. (And thanks, Bull, for sharing this insightful article from back in January.) I just can’t wrap my arms around the idea of Trump turning now so vehemently against Sessions and in such a public way … my gut tells me there’s something else going on here politically by sly dog Trump. Time will tell. MAGA!!


        • gainny says:

          I completely agree; this is wrestling kayfabe, and the opposition is too arrogant and dumb to see what’s in front of their eyes—even when it’s CNN being mocked in a wrestling meme. (Ben Rhodes himself said the average reporter is 27 years old and ignorant, thus easy to dupe.) Trump is acting the baddie, and the opposition has flocked to defend Sessions (whom they savaged at his confirmation hearing).

          Grassley contributed today, sternly warning that his committee’s schedule is set for the rest of 2017 and they won’t consider any new AGs.

          When Sessions comes out with some blockbuster investigations, the reaction will be that Trump bullied him and he was too weak to resist. Whatever!

          Did anyone see Session’s presser about the dark-web takedown? (The clip was on this site a few days ago.) Twice he was asked about resigning and he stepped forward to respond (“We love this job”). Both times, he was smiling. I think he’s not a good poker player.

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          • Like your idea, gainny, [” the {MSM} reaction will be that Trump bullied him and he was too weak to resist.”] but my guess is that they will say Sessions just humiliated POTUS by ignoring the Pres. and just going about the AG’s business and accomplishing this astounding “thing.”.

            They will love Sessions even more b/c his “blockbuster” whatever, will allow them to start a new narrative about something and get of that now-boring Russia, Russia, Russia.


      • WSB says:

        “Sessions installed close allies throughout the administration. He persuaded Cliff Sims, a friend and adviser, to sell his Alabama media outlet and take a job directing message strategy at the White House. Sessions also influenced the selection of Peter Navarro, an economist and friend with whom he co-authored an op-ed last fall warning against the “rabbit hole of globalism,” as director of the National Trade Council.”

        Not even sure that Cliff Sims did end up with the position, but from the critics, how did that work out? And if many of these WH placements are Sessions’ referrals, how is it they are now a swamp?

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      • dobbsfan says:

        Bull –

        I really enjoyed this article/link. It helped me relax a little on AG Sessions and his current plight with “The Swamp.”

        Without sounding weird, I want you to know how much I appreciate your posts. As I peruse the many comments available, I tend to seek yours out. They are always tactful and very informative. There are several others around here with similar styles and grace.

        The Treehouse is fortunate to have so many good folks here.


    • Sherlock says:

      Miller will likely leave if Sessions is forced out, I believe. Tremendous loss there. Anyone ever see better speeches than his? I never have.

      Liked by 1 person

      • Summer says:

        Why? Sessions is not his daddy. Miller is a brilliant young man, with Trump he has the greatest opportunity to advance his own career and help MAGA. With Sessions fired/retired — not so much.

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      • PNWLifer says:

        You clearly haven’t read anything about Miller. He’s a MAGA guy to the core. His loyalty is to this country. He’s never going to have this chance again and he’s not going to caste it aside because of Jeff Sessions.


      • Dakotacav says:

        Miller isn’t going anywhere, in part because Sessions isn’t going anywhere, except to the Trump Oscars for best supporting actor in a sting operation….

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  5. JeremyJohn says:

    No matter how it is sugar coated by some, I am not in favor of publicly going after AG sessions. In fact, I do mot support criticizing anyone who Trump can personally talk or has the power to fire. This does not help trump”s public opinion beyond partisan supporters. I simply do not know he would do that.

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  6. Brant says:

    So many of these POTUS 44 issues and characters seem to have, “follow the money” links and trails (example, McCabe wife funded by MacAuliffe, Fast and Furious, etc). Could the money related angles be investigated by dept of Treasury? Isn’t the Sec of Treasury a pretty stout and bulldog character? Perhaps money angles could be investigated under “not properly reported”? That’s how they got Capone. Not for violent activity.

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  7. sahm2016 says:

    I am having a hard time believing Sessions, who has been one of the few voices speaking out against uncontrolled illegal immigration for years, is suddenly the king of swamp creatures. (Sorry this post is so long, I am just frustrated with the incessant attacks on Sessions, an imperfect but decent man).

    Sessions has been fighting, sometimes singlehandedly, the amnesty crowd for years. When he finally gets a chance to do something about it, he goes all in and focuses on that. It now seems that his boss would prefer he focus on something else, despite saying Hillary has suffered enough and that prosecuting her wouldn’t heal the Country.

    This may seem harsh, but I believe most of this Sessions debacle can be laid directly at the feet of President Trump. Trump knew before Sessions was sworn in as AG that Sessions was going to recuse himself because he was part of the campaign. Sessions said it plain as day under oath. If it was a deal breaker, why didn’t Trump decide to part ways then and there? Trump knew Sessions was going to recuse himself, and he still finalized the appointment.

    Trump’s transition team came up with Rosenstein as Deputy AG, the guy was a Bush appointee and served as a member of Holder/Lynch’s politicized DOJ, and yet that was the guy they picked. That is not Session’s fault. I could have predicted Rosenstein was a swamp creature.

    Trump also kept Comey as director of the FBI until May. Swamp Creature Comey should have been gone on day one. This also wasn’t Sessions fault, it was Trump’s.

    Trump staffed the White House with swamp creatures, disloyal GOPe types, and made Reince Preibus his COS; I understand that there were dozens of positions to fill quickly, but Trump and his transition team made the decision to compromise and hire people who weren’t onboard with the MAGA agenda. Jeff Sessions didn’t.

    I don’t think Sessions is perfect, and I think he can do more to root out the deep state, but placing all the blame on his shoulders is unfair. If you play with fire, or the GOPe, you will get burned. Hopefully Trump will clean house, starting at the White House, and get rid of the people who advised him to appoint Rosenstein and keep Comey.

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    • Jlwary says:

      POTUS is smart and for all the reasons you stated, I feel there must be more to this.

      Liked by 4 people

    • 4sure says:

      There were and still are traitors in the WH.

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    • Angry Dumbo says:

      Excellent point. An argument can be made that PDJT tried to train the swamp before deciding to drain the swamp. There is no other way to explain Preibus. I am confident in PDJT and Sessions, to that end put me in the 4D Chess camp or ridicule me. I can take it.

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    • ECM says:

      Sessions can walk and chew gum at the same time–there is no reason he can’t ‘focus’ on both.

      (And I’m not sure where I stand on this mess, but I don’t think going ‘all-in’ on immigration, precludes doing the nearly equally important job of draining the swamp.)

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    • Curry Worsham says:

      I agree with you about Sessions. But I believe PDJT and Sessions are working together with others to spring a trap.
      Sessions is an integral, organic central part of this administration.

      From the article referenced above by Bull Durham:

      Sessions helped devise Trump’s first-week strategy, in which the president signed a blizzard of executive orders that begin to fulfill his signature campaign promises – although Sessions had advocated going even faster.

      The senator lobbied for a “shock-and-awe” period of executive action that would rattle Congress, impress Trump’s base and catch his critics unaware, according to two officials involved in the transition planning. Trump opted for a slightly slower pace, these officials said, because he wanted to maximize news coverage by spreading out his directives over several weeks.

      Trump makes his own decisions, but Sessions was one of the rare lawmakers who shared his impulses.


      In a 20-year Senate career, Sessions has been isolated in his own party, a dynamic crystallized a decade ago when he split with President George W. Bush and the business community over comprehensive immigration changes.

      In lonely and somewhat conspiratorial speeches on the Senate floor, Sessions would chastise the “masters of the universe” and hung on his office wall a picture of He-Man from the popular 1980s comic book series.

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    • Dakotacav says:

      Wait till later this week. I believe that AG Sessions will emerge, and many will see that he and POTUS planned this roll out of the Big Ugly after all

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    • Will Janoschka says:

      “Trump knew before Sessions was sworn in as AG that Sessions was going to recuse himself”
      Have you any evidence of such? You cannot even shit. You only blow smoke!


      • KittyKat says:

        The only evidence is the transcript from the confirmation hearings that’s been posted several times in these threads, in which Sessions says he will recuse himself.

        But you are right, whether or not President Trump knew about that is a question.


  8. JeremyJohn says:

    No matter how it is sugar coated by some, I am not in favor of publicly going after AG sessions. In fact, I do mot support criticizing anyone who Trump can personally talk or has the power to fire. This does not help trump”s public opinion beyond partisan supporters. I simply do not know he would do that.

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    • Deb says:

      He has the power to fire Sessions, but the Republicans who are against him would use it as a reason to try and impeach him. And meeting with him becomes more difficult when everything you say is twisted and leaked.

      Liked by 3 people

      • scott467 says:

        “He has the power to fire Sessions, but the Republicans who are against him would use it as a reason to try and impeach him.”


        If they try to impeach him, it is an open declaration that they are a rogue, renegade and lawless body, and We the People need to march on the Capitol en masse.

        Ten million Americans — or even ONE million — standing silently, surrounding the Capitol building, would scare the excrement out of every last criminal in our government.

        Let them be stuck inside the building.

        Or let them come out and face We the People, if they dare and think they would survive it.

        This has gone way too far already.

        I’m not worried about ‘impeachment’, Trump has the People on his side.

        The criminal political-class is who needs to be worried.


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        • Will Janoschka says:

          “We the People need to march on the Capitol en masse”
          Why? Many many. more peaceable solutions! If you persist, I hab many finely honed pitchforks for sale. For well oiled torches my neighbors can provide!


    • Alexsandra says:

      Jeremy John, in the 11 minutes since you posted exactly the same thing did you not have any new thoughts to add on the matter? Now I disagree x2.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Texian says:

      So many delicate cream puff snowflakes these days..


  9. John Huxley says:

    A little bit of disingenuous statements here, Virtually no one has a problem with Trump criticizing members of his own party or cabinet provided you don’t like them (ie virtually every senator).

    But you make an exception for Sessions.

    Now i understand this because you like Sessions per his past stance on immigration, i like Sessions too.

    But please stop pretending you champion some ideal of ‘civility in handling disagreements’ when you sure as hell want Trump to call out McCain.

    Hypocrisy and double-standards is something i despise of the Left.

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    • janc1955 says:

      Trump didn’t appoint McCain to his cabinet.

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    • JeremyJohn says:

      with due respect, I wrote about criticizing someone who works for you. if you have option to talk to your appointee, make your point there or fire. this is not same as calling out party members, senators or anyother person. so please understand the fine distinction I am trying to make here. I am not at all questioning merit or demerit of substance. I just don’t think it is right to go after sessions or any cabinet member this way where you could talk or fire.


      • JeremyJohn says:

        no one is above criticism but there are scenarios where publicly calling out is not the best thing to do.


        • John Huxley says:

          You haven’t proved that these other ‘scenarios’ haven’t happened.

          Firing is not a simple option either because of who will replace the AG, it seems like you haven’t quite applied the ‘scenarios’ thinking to the ‘firing’ which you present as a black and white option that Trump should have chosen.


          • JeremyJohn says:

            Now you got me more confused. if firing will cause issues, then resigning will do the same void. That’s not the point. Does trump want sessions to go? if yes, fire him or ask hI’m to resign. if he want him too stay but want him to do better in those areas, then tell him that privately. that’s my opinion.

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            • John Huxley says:

              Trump hasn’t indicated he wants Sessions to resign, that may be other peoples suspicion but ‘other people’ isn’t Donald Trump.

              Furthermore you don’t know if he hasn’t told Sessions, also another caveat is Sessions may not even be allowing himself private talks with Trump precisely because ‘muhh Russia recusal’.


            • Will Janoschka says:

              “if he want him too stay but want him to do better in those areas, then tell him that privately….”
              What makes you think that is not already in place? The MSM BS?


        • Alexsandra says:

          We were all on notice from the beginning that political correctness and guarded comment were not part of the deal. Why surprised and judgmental now?

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          • TreeperInTraining says:

            Oh, Alexsandra…thank you.

            The pearl clutch because Trump is not doing things in the DC SOP way is really suprising.

            This is Trump. It’s not like he faked anybody out. He is in your face, non PC and last time I checked, these are the characteristics most of his supporters liked.

            I guess the buck stops at St. Sessions. Wut????

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    • John Huxley says:

      None of you would be complaining if Trump was criticizing Reince Priebus publicly.

      Liked by 1 person

    • TreeperInTraining says:


      …..and everyone was happy as hell that he called out Comey. And various other less “respected” people , too. A tweet insulting Graham or Ryan would be met with giggles, memes and bigly “likes”.

      I don’t get the “love” for Saint Jeffrey Sessions, but I’m much more into Rhett Butler than Ashley Wilkes….gentlemen both. One with gonads, and one without. As a rule, I don’t “love” any politician, either. Kwim?

      Yeah… I know….he went head to head with the scary KKK.. blah, blah. That was years ago. What is he doing to drain the swamp?

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  10. scott467 says:

    “If you wonder why the entire corrupt DC political class is openly in opposition to President Donald J Trump…. And if you wonder why President Donald Trump is expressing public frustrations with his Attorney General…. Well,… Perhaps Attorney General Jeff Sessions could begin by just asking these simple questions of his own organization.”


    I think it was WEEKS ago (months, maybe) that I began asking WHERE is Jeff Sessions… did he disappear into the Witness Protection Program?

    But everyone kept saying hold tight, Sessions is the best of the best, a bulldog, a rottweiler, he’s going to tear them up!

    I want to believe it.

    We are fast approaching a point where that question is going to be answered, one way or the other, because it can’t keep going as it has been.

    Whether DJT turning up the heat on Sessions in recent days is part of an elaborate head-fake (I sure hope it is!), or whether Sessions got cold feet and sat on his hands, soon we will know.

    IF – for whatever reason — it turns out that Sessions is unwilling or unable to investigate the Obama DOJ activities (and Clinton, and Soros), what are the President’s options?

    He can fire Sessions, or Sessions can resign, but either way, that creates other problems (e.g., Senate can block next nomination, and DOJ is headless for who knows how long).

    The simple reality is that SERIOUS CRIMES have been committed, and these SERIOUS CRIMES must be investigated and the perpetrators PROSECUTED. The more and higher up the food chain you go (all the way to the very top), the better.

    If Sessions is stuck in neutral, what are DJT’s other options?

    Thinking outside the box?

    What OTHER department can prosecute federal crimes besides the DOJ?

    If the answer is “None”, then do we not have a Constitutional crisis?

    If Sessions is being blackmailed (or who knows what his problem might be, that’s not the point), the DOJ cannot be allowed to hold up the nation’s business. There has to be a work-around.

    Shut down the DOJ, or just ‘mothball’ it, and create a new agency.

    Or transfer the prosecutorial and related functions to another agency with someone competent in charge. What are the options? Did the Founding Fathers not leave ANY options for such a crisis?

    You can be sure if this was happening in a Democrat administration, they would have no trouble coming up with alternate plans.

    If necessary, can DJT send federal prosecutors to assist various State prosecutors? MANY of the crooks in question can surely be charged with State crimes in addition to Federal crimes, can’t they?

    What I’m asking is, if Sessions is compromised and not removable, the country can’t just grind to a halt for the next 3 years. We are NOT hostages to OUR government.

    What ACTIONS can be taken?


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    • Alexsandra says:

      The best actions, given that we have a leader, is to let him take appropriate actions and support that. I was okay with Sessions as long as POTUS was. Now that he is not, I am also not worried. Who has withstood all this, not just since the presidency but since the inception of the campaign? No one else could have withstood it except for Trump. And I trust he will continue to do so. Second guessing and differing opinions of what he should do about this or that is what the pundits do every minute, daily.

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      • scott467 says:

        I understand, and mostly agree.

        My intention was not to second-guess, but to pose a hypothetical which may soon be a reality (if it isn’t already), and then inquire about the president’s options, given his propensity for creative and outside the box thinking.


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      • Will Janoschka says:

        “I was okay with Sessions as long as POTUS was. Now that he is not, I am also not worried.”
        What makes you think that P45 is not OK with ‘his’ AG? The MSM BS?


    • WSB says:

      As Brant stated upthread, Treasury could be used for prosecution. As I ponder that, it would be a great head fake.

      Sessions, if he is serious about the DOJ Ethics recusal, should necessarily then fire Rosenstein and McCabe, promoting from within or anyone else who could be inserted without further Senate approval. I may be completely off here, however I am of the understanding that if someone has been previously confirmed and is working in similar capacity, they can be placed as acting DAG or acting as Deputy FBI Director.

      Any thoughts?

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      • Will Janoschka says:

        “Sessions, if he is serious about the DOJ Ethics recusal, should necessarily then fire Rosenstein and McCabe..”

        Why? Has ether done anything except there job? Loyalty comes in many flavors, particularly if it is your ass in the sling.

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    • Roozter says:

      Whatever happens, I can think of little worse than having Rosenstein running DOJ!


  11. youme says:

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  12. janc1955 says:

    A question that keeps reoccurring to me is (setting the recusal aside for now, since it went off without a hitch, by all appearances, until last week when PDJT started publicly criticizing his AG), is Sessions maybe prioritizing his work based on certain campaign immigration and law-and-order, more immediate objectives, while waiting for additional staff to tackle the political stuff from the prior administration such as IRS targeting, Clinton crimes, etc? Point being, maybe his prioritization of projects has nothing to do with avoiding anything, and everything to do with being understaffed and surrounded by enemy holdovers. Also, is it possible he and PDJT never sat down and prioritized what POTUS wanted the AG to tackle first, second, third, etc.?

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    • ECM says:

      We have to assume Trump has some clue what Sessions is working on, which says to me either a. this is rope-a-dope or b. Sessions has already told him he has no intention of pursuing those matters, or not on anything resembling a reasonable timeline, which means Trump is trying to force him to resign over it.

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    • scott467 says:

      “Point being, maybe his prioritization of projects has nothing to do with avoiding anything, and everything to do with being understaffed and surrounded by enemy holdovers.”


      Possible, but that begs the obvious question, which has infuriated and exasperated many for months now:

      Why are there ANY holdovers, AT ALL, anywhere in the Trump administration?!?

      Suppose you’re in a big row boat.

      Any person sitting the wrong direction (and therefore rowing the wrong direction) is a serious problem, and you are better off throwing that clown overboard and leaving his seat EMPTY than letting him continue rowing AGAINST you.

      The same is true for our government.

      There are HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of saboteurs riddled throughout our government, and they have been ALLOWED to stay in their positions by SOMEBODY.

      WHO is that somebody?

      And if his name is Donald J. Trump, then THAT is ANOTHER government official who should be on the receiving end of some presidential tweets.

      And if it’s NOT POTUS’s fault, then whose fault IS IT?!?

      I know, it’s “hard” to fire government people, they have weird contractual arrangements that make ‘impossible’ or some other BS.

      You know what’s NOT hard?

      To transfer every %$#@ one of them to the arctic research facility at the North Pole.

      Make them construction workers and tell them to build a city. Do something useful for the first time in their lives.

      They won’t though, of course.

      What they would do is resign, immediately, before being shipped to the ends of the earth.

      And that accomplishes the same thing as firing them.


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    • Alexsandra says:

      This is the second time on this page I’ve seen someone play HR and microquestion how POTUS shoulda coulda handle things.


      • scott467 says:

        “This is the second time on this page I’ve seen someone play HR and microquestion how POTUS shoulda coulda handle things.”


        The president is a civil servant… MINE, actually.

        And I will question my civil servant’s actions whenever I please 🙂

        When my civil servant does not do things that a responsible civil servant would do — for example, leaving hundreds if not thousands of Obama loyalists in place, sabotaging his own administration, and by extension, the future of my country — I reserve the right to question that decision, and inquire who is responsible, and why that decision was made.

        Is it not a fair and reasonable question?


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      • janc1955 says:

        Your snotty posts are always so helpful. Thanks so much.


    • Trumpire says:

      I think what you are missing is that it doesn’t matter because Sessions has already lost Trump’s trust.

      He’s doing this publically because he doesn’t trust to meet and converse with Sessions privately. And I don’t blame him one bit.

      Look, there is literally a witch hunt going on and day after day Sessions does nothing. NOTHING.

      There is no legal basis for this investigation whether Sessions recused or not.

      Even is you thought you were correct with your decision to recuse wouldn’t you be outraged at the way your staff – Rosenstein and Mueller have been handling things? I would.

      I’d be raising holy hell with them. Sessions isn’t doing that. Day after day, Mueller is combing through every aspect of Trumps life and Sessions is mute.

      When does Sessions plan to end this illegal investigation?

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    • Sherlock says:

      Without sounding like a broken record, I believe the criticism is simply a legal strategy to try to get Sessions to quit to eventually get to Mueller’s ouster. Can’t fire him, so trying to rag on him hard enough to get him to just walk away, so that….well, you know the rest.
      Hey, people are expendable in Washington.

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    • You may have articulated it better that I have, but that has been my point on everything Sessions.
      The DOJ doesn’t investigate. Do you want him to go to the Obama/Hillary FBI and have then investigate crimes?
      And he doesn’t have a full staff to protect him or for him to trust. ( credit Sylvia)

      I believe most of Trumps problems stem from not having many of his own people in place yet. That is a big problem. Never in the history of any Presidency have this many vacancies been unfilled this far along.
      And with no rules or checks in place, the special Counsel seems to be able to get there hands on anything they want. Or at least see whats going on from “spies” that shouldn’t be there.

      Next month Trumps FBI director will be in place. And if all goes as well as Kushner testimony maybe this whole debacle will die down too.
      Then lets see what happens.

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    • Ogzy says:

      Well janc1955, right now Trump’s top ‘priority’ should be – MUST be – to rid himself of SP/SC Mueller!

      Every day that Mueller is allowed to continue represents an existential threat to the Trump presidency e.g. ‘discoveries’ made will certainly be leaked (this has happened already!).

      Mueller should be gone YESTERDAY.

      Problem is, how to do this smartly.

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  13. freddy says:

    I’d call Sessions out. His mistake was monumental. He allowed the corrupt FBI hillary friends to bring in a guy for Comeys revenge. Then he allowed Mueller to get in the gate unprotected where he still is fully armed with a gang of Hillarys thugs to rummage and pillage wherever they want unimpeded…Ya thats quite the mistake and could cost Trump impeachment or some of his family or friends to be prosecuted……I would have fired him loudly……

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  14. WSB says:

    At least we ruin our country the old fashoined way…blackmail and such. Sweden is just a bit challenged in this department:


  15. Sr.PegCJ says:

    Good night fellow treepers. Sleep tight. God bless.

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  16. sgs1370blog says:

    This is all working according to plan. Trump has it under control. I don’t think he will fire Sessions but if he does, he’ll make sure to put a fighter in the office. Besides, this could all be a tactic to get everyone defending Sessions, who (regardless of what’s tweeted) will do a good job of policing immigration and crime (yes, the corruption may not get rooted out, which is really bad, I admit). In any case, I like them both but ultimately it’s Trump’s decision. As for the tweets, I think either this is a tactic or Trump feels that he can’t leave the delivery of this message to surrogates. Many presidents would leak this type of message instead of saying it (if it is sincere and not a tactic).

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  17. LafnH2O says:

    “Engage people with what they expect; it is what they are able to discern and confirms their projections. It settles them into predictable patterns of response, occupying their minds while you wait for the extraordinary moment — that which they cannot anticipate.”

    “Hence a commander who advances without any thought of winning personal fame and withdraws in spite of certain punishment, whose only concern is to protect his people and promote the interests of his ruler, is the nation’s treasure. Because he fusses over his men as if they were infants, they will accompany him into the deepest valleys; because he fusses over his men as if they were his own beloved sons, they will die by his side.
    If he is generous with them and yet they do not do as he tells them, if he loves them and yet they do not obey his commands, if he is so undisciplined with them that he cannot bring them into proper order, they will be like spoiled children who can be put to no good use at all.”

    “All is far in love and war.”

    Sun Tzu
    The Art of WAR

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  18. Raffaella says:

    Great read. Apparently, any other cabinet member can fill the position.

    If Jeff Sessions Exits, Trump Could Choose An Acting Attorney General From Among Thousands Of People

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    • Raffaella says:

      Everyone should read this. It perfectly explains why President is so upset with Sessions and he is justified to be upset. God I hate Sessions now. What a weasel.


      • lionslover says:

        And that article is RIGHT ON. I was saying this ast night arguing with some nut cases on Trump Reddit. It’s obvious why Trump is PO’ed and he should be. Now he has a witch hunt against him and he SHOULD have an AG who has the power to step in and stop anything that is improper, and this investigation is obviously improper. As this article points out, the mere fact alone that he and Comey are good buds would give Sessions the obvious right to FIRE Meuller and outline a new investigation limited to only Russian interference. Now Trump is stuck while these leftist attackers rummage through his entire financial life.

        Sundance, you argument is wishful thinking. I too wish this was over not doing IRS investigations, but in your heart know as well as many of us do this is about the recusal and Sessions allowing this witch hunt because of his recusal. This will be bigg trouble I’m afraid because Trump has some bad reason he didn’t want his taxes released and he knows that Meuller can now delve in to his private and personal financial records and try to come up with something that can destroy his presidency. I am very worried about this and I believe Meuller MUST BE FIRED, he has to be or this will be a disaster for Trump, Gee, THANKS SESSIONS, YOU WEAK and pathetic idiot.

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        • Tonawanda says:

          I respectfully disagree, the article is not right on. (BTW, Jarrett’s use of the word “hopelessly” should be a warning sign of someone who is using adverbs to replace cogency).

          There is no reason to believe Mueller is investigating Comey. Comey’s illegalities (if any) are outside Mueller’s narrow jurisdiction (which is restricted to the campaign). Sessions could be investigating Comey and maybe IS investigating Comey, because what Comey did (illegal leaking, improper handling of documents) does not relate to the campaign.

          Similarly, there is no reason to believe Mueller is investigating Trump for obstruction in Comey’s firing. That also is not a campaign related issue.

          Just the opposite, Rosenstein’s appointment of Mueller suggests that Trump is not the target of Mueller’s investigation. Jarret may very well have it upside down.

          None of us knows what is going on. We are just going to have to go through a summer of “who shot J.R.” until we find out. And (IMO) Trump wants it that way.

          But what IS campaign related is the “hacking” of the DNC computer. It is my educated guess that investigation into that matter will open up a world of additional criminality and corruption, none of which Trump needs to worry about.


  19. millwright says:

    Considering the President is trying to smoke out the source(s) of leaks, it occurs to me this public tiff with AG Sessions could equally be a staged conflict IOW, a “conspiracy” between the AG and the President ! Fantasy or fact ? With what’s currently going on inside the Beltway, in the LSM and across the world is any ploy beyond consideration ?

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  20. George says:

    Everything Trump plan I thought made more sense than AG Sessions betrayal of the President. AG and McCabe going to kill every evil in Swamp. DOJ Corruption apparently can quiet whole FBI. If true, people who praise Sessions record is why Trump choose him, no bigger betrayal. Without President Trump Sessions undo what he’s bragging about on TV and he done. Unbelievable no one can accept. The investigation on President Trump and family and than can’t defend himself because of Jeff Session is really bothering me


  21. bkrg2 says:

    After reading thousands of posts on this Trump vs Sessions topic, I am convinced it is a ploy.
    Something yuge is coming where Sessions will need as much bipartisan support as possible.
    Therefore, Trump makes 2 things possible with all the tweets:
    1. He has no control/influence over Sessions (independence of AG, no obstructions, etc)
    2. As Sessions is putting handcuffs on swamp creatures, all the politicians and pundits will look pretty silly if they start attacking the man they just finished praising (recall all the idiot Demonrats praising Comey, then wanted a lynch mob, then crying when Trump fired him…)

    At this point, I am willing to bet money on my convictions.
    This is one of the very, very few times I think Sundance is wrong (or is he part of the ploy???)


    • lionslover says:

      Sorry, but no way Trump and Sessions agree to him being HUMILIATED by his boss just for a trap. That’s just not believable. It’s far more believable that Trump is watchuing Meuller rampage through his financial life unchecked and with unlimited funds and he is supposed to have an AG that has the power to stop the investigation if he see unfair garbage happening like Clinton lawyers being hired and he and Comey being best buds who set this garbage up. Trump has a castrated gelding as his AG who now can’t help him as he should be able to and he is PO’ED about it and he should be.

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      • bkrg2 says:

        If I am wrong, then I totally agree with you lionslover (and I lose my bet) and it will be a very sad day for me. I am so tired of all of Trumps enemies fighting him 24/7, however, it makes me physically sick to think someone as loyal and supportive as Sessions could turn out to be the one who allows the fatal “slings and arrows” to take out Trump.


      • LafnH2O says:

        If he’s on on it, and the ends justify the means (so to speak), and the mission is accomplished… is it humiliating… Then?

        The big print giveth… The fine print taketh away!!


  22. lionslover says:

    While that all isTrue, Sundance, it’s simply not logical that Trump would publicly humiliate his friend Sessions over stuff like this. I know the rational, logical answer and it’s really obvious. Trump has MEULLER rampaging through his life, family, busineses and he has a CASTRATED gelding AG who has cut off his own power to keep a lid on this ridiculous investigation and by doing so has also robbed Trump of his means of fighting back.

    Trump refused to release his taxes, and I’m glad he didn’t because I think that silly practice should be ended. But surely Trump knows that Meuller can now take his gaggle of leftist, Hillary supporting lawyers and they can rummage through every facet of his life. As Tucker said last week, buy a burger in Russia and an American lawyer could somehow make a crime out of it. Who said show me the man and I’ll show you the crime?

    The point is, which is more reasonable, he’s publicly humiliating his friend and honorable man Sessions because of stuff like the IRS scandal, or he’s doing it because the more Meuller rampages through his financial life with unlimited funds and a group of lawyers who hate him Trump is reminded just how stupid it was for Sessions to have recused himself?

    The effects of that recusal are constantly being shoved in his face and this unchecked and unlimited funded attack group are allowed to totally take his financial life apart and look for anything to charge him over.

    I don’t believe for a second Trump is angry enough about IRS and other Obama and Hillary scandals to ATTACK Sessions publicly. No, he is attacking sessions because he is totally exposed to this witch hunt and his AG SHOULD have the power to make sure it is conducted failry and impartially and Sessions gave that power away and now Trump is forced to either fire Meuller and take the horrible shit storm that would follow, OR he has to fire Sessions and hire an AG who will then fire Mueller as he should be fired.

    The mere fact alone that Meuller applied for the FBI job should disqualify him from being the investigator because he could have anger over not getting the job, not to mention his relationship with Comey who is a main witness for what the investigation was originally about.

    The bottom line is, TRUMP has to get rid of MEULLER. Trump probably has bad stuff in his taxes and that’s why he has refused to release them and he probably is terrified Meuller will dig in to all of it and Meuller just recently said he will be digging in to all the financial stuff.

    Isn’t it a HUGE coincidence that the attacks on Sessions came close after Meuller said he would be going deep in to his finances. Trump is FURIOUS at Sessions and HE SHOULD BE. He castrated himself and now Trump is stuck with a rampaging investigator rummaging through every facet of his life. The worse it gets the more PO’ED he gets at Sessions over it and I don’t blame him.

    So no, your thoughts I believe are wishful thinking. I think Trump has something in his taxes he has been desperately trying to hide and he fears Meuller is going to dig down to it and it could be bad enough to destroy his presidency. I believe Meuller MUST GO, somehow, someway. Trump has to either fire him himself or get rid of Sessions and hire someone who will fire him.

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    • tampa2 says:

      Agree mostly with what you posted. Especially the “unlimited funding” of Mueller’s investigation. The money that they have that’s ours, lasts longer than the money we have that’s ours…Even billionaire Trump.

      But the tax return issue… Trump is not trying to avoid releasing his tax returns for any impropriety. He is audited annually. He is, however, resisting releasing his returns because they will reveal his legal and, in his case, proprietary tax loopholes his attorneys have uncovered and his competitors will uncover and thusly destroy his advantages in the market place. I assure you he’s spent millions uncovering these totally legal loopholes. Intellectual property, perhaps.

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    • mimbler says:

      I don’t think so. With the politicized IRS, if there was any damaging info about PDJT’s taxes, it would already be leaked.


  23. Larry says:

    If the intent of this article was to make a case for the way Trump has handled the situation with Jeff Sessions, then for me this article didn’t even come close.


    • lionslover says:

      Sessions recusing himself was pathetic and weak and now Trump is seeing the true disaster that it was as he watches Meuller rummage through every facet of his financial life. Sessions was just dum to do it and now Trump will pay the price if he can’t find a way to get rid of Meuller. I don’t blame Trump a bit.

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      • Larry says:

        Sorry, you’re wrong. The potential disaster you describe was brought on by Jared Kushner who recommended the firing of Comey – that brought about the appointment of Mueller. Sessions had recused himself weeks earlier. And I respectfully dare you to give a valid reason as to why in the world Trump would go to the New York Times, of all places to air these comments about Jeff Sessions.


  24. lionslover says:

    In fact, Tucker just played trumps words from yesterday, the first thing Trump said, “Sessions shouldn’t have recused himself”. Does that sound like he’s agry about no IRS investigation or Hillary investigations? Nope, he’s PO’ED because Sessions opened Trump up to this witch hunt and now he has no protection from his AG who could fire Meuller if he saw unfair tactics being used or improper stuff going on, like him and Comey being best buds and the fact that Mueller was interviewed for the FBI job and didn’t get it the DAY BEFORE he was named as counsil. Meuller should recuse himself from this obviously and the fact that he hasn’t, to me, shows he is dead set on destroying Trump and he and Comey purposely set this up to happen. Meuller has to be fired, somehow, someway. The further this goes the more PO’ed Trump gets at Sessions and I don’t blame him.

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  25. Will Janoschka says:

    A: “why did the IRS, through Lois Lerner, deliver 1+ million pages of tax filings, to include the entire donor list of Tea Party and patriot groups including every “schedule B” with the names of every contributor to the organization, through 21 CD-ROMs to the DOJ? And B: Who did she deliver them to?…

    Lois Lerner will become a key witness in the corruption trials of both Clintons, and Obumer.
    But only if she survives! She knows that.


  26. jeans2nd says:

    President Trump has seemed reticent to comment on much that happened before his own time in politics, so the IRS targeting of The Tea Party may not be uppermost in his mind.
    However, there are two things that have occurred during President Trump’s tenure.

    When Comey was fired on 9 May 2017, very few people knew the firing was to occur, and the immanent firing was not leaked. It is generally accepted that Comey had personal files, of which AG Sessions most likely has possession.
    Why has nothing been done with the content of those files? Were copies of those 21 CDs among those items recovered from Comey’s office? Could that be why Comey was so intent on obtainiing the appointment of a special prosecutor?

    The Obama imbeds in the DOJ and FBI have seen reason to target President Trump’s kids – POTUS’ tweet included something to the effect “11 year old Barron is next.” Would wager that was the bridge too far for Our POTUS. No one messes with family, especially POTUS’ kids. There is absolutely no one coming to the defense of POTUS’ kids. That is reason for war.

    yup. Revenge Cat. it is time.

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  27. Howie says:

    4 AG’s in 5 months. Yates, Boentes, Sessions, Rosey. Stir in 1 Special Counsel. The Swamp Special.

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  28. G. Combs says:

    THIS covers CIVIL DAMAGES — RICO and Statute of Limitation

    RICO Act itself does not contain a statute of limitations but the Supreme Court has held that civil RICO claims are subject to a four-year statute of limitations. Agency Holding Corp. v. Malley-Duff & Associates, Inc., 483 U.S. 143, (U.S. 1987). The statute of limitations begins running on a RICO claim according to the “injury discovery accrual rule” which ties accrual to the time when a plaintiff first knew or should have known of his injury.[…]

    Notice that it has only a FOUR year statute of limitations which has long since run out.

    HOWEVER there is NO criminal statute of limitations. Therefore it behooves AG Sessions to follow all the trails and gather up ALL those indictable under RICO so he can drain as much of the Swamp as possible.

    RICO allows for prosecution of all individuals involved in a corrupt organization. For mob prosecutions, that means that the government can go after top leadership as well as the hit men and capos.[…]

    While RICO was originally aimed at the Mafia, over the past 37 years, prosecutors have used it to attack many forms of organized crime: street gangs, gang cartels, corrupt police departments and even politicians.[…]

    Criminal RICO

    To violate RICO, a person must engage in a pattern of racketeering activity connected to an enterprise. The law defines 35 offenses as constituting racketeering, including gambling, murder, kidnapping, arson, drug dealing, bribery. Significantly, mail and wire fraud are included on the list. These crimes are known as “predicate” offenses. To charge under RICO, at least two predicate crimes within 10 years must have been committed through the enterprise.

    Note that an enterprise is required. This might be a crime family, a street gang or a drug cartel. But it may also be a corporation, a political party, or a managed care company. The enterprise just has to be a discrete entity[…]

    The criminal RICO statute provides for prison terms of 20 years and severe financial penalties. The law also allows prosecutors to attach assets, so they can’t be whisked out of the country before judgment.[…]

    As used in this chapter—
    (1) “racketeering activity” means[…]
    section 1028 (relating to fraud and related activity in connection with identification documents),[…]

    section 1513 (relating to retaliating against a witness, victim, or an informant),[…] {Think True the Vote}

    WIKI gives the description of FRAUD:
    In law, fraud is deliberate deception to secure unfair or unlawful gain, or to deprive a victim of a legal right. Fraud itself can be a civil wrong (i.e., a fraud victim may sue the fraud perpetrator to avoid the fraud or recover monetary compensation), a criminal wrong (i.e., a fraud perpetrator may be prosecuted and imprisoned by governmental authorities) or it may cause no loss of money, property or legal right but still be an element of another civil or criminal wrong.[1] The purpose of fraud may be monetary gain or other benefits, such as obtaining a driver’s license or qualifying for a mortgage by way of false statements.[….]

    So it looks like
    18 U.S. Code § 1028 – Fraud and related activity in connection with identification documents, authentication features, and information would be the important RICO code violated.

    (a) Whoever, in a circumstance described in subsection (c) of this section—
    (1) knowingly and without lawful authority produces an identification document, authentication feature, or a false identification document;
    (2) knowingly transfers an identification document, authentication feature, or a false identification document knowing that such document or feature was stolen or produced without lawful authority;
    (3) knowingly possesses with intent to use unlawfully or transfer unlawfully five or more identification documents (other than those issued lawfully for the use of the possessor), authentication features, or false identification documents;[…]

    (7) knowingly transfers, possesses, or uses, without lawful authority, a means of identification of another person with the intent to commit, or to aid or abet, or in connection with, any unlawful activity that constitutes a violation of Federal law, or that constitutes a felony under any applicable State or local law; or [….]

    (5) in the case of any offense under subsection (a), forfeiture to the United States of any personal property used or intended to be used to commit the offense; and

    HMMMM… That looks like a very good reason for AG Sessions to make sure ALL 50 states have Civil Asset Forfeiture doesn’t it?

    As far as Mueller goes, remember he went to see Trump FIRST. It is possible a deal was cut with Mueller. A presidential pardon for RICO in the case of the IRS scandal in return for helping AG Sessions syphon up all the players.

    When Comey went to see Mueller he also may have been ‘Turned’

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  29. Ogzy says:

    Sessions is not up to the job and should make way / be demoted in order to make way for a more aggressive / effective AG.

    If Sessions is REALLY as loyal as we are told he is, he would have offered his resignation days ago – at the latest!

    I’ve always thought Southerners were too easy-going, even a bit slow. My bad.

    Trouble is, Sessions is confirming the stereotype!


    • Alligator Gar says:

      Apologies in advance for this rant. It has been boiling since this mess with Sessions began, and with it, unrelenting South bashing. OK, Ogzy, here it is, this Southerner has had the worst NY city stereotypes confirmed over and over in this admin. Neither I nor my MAGA friends and family in South AL and NWFL are happy at all with it.

      Also, do you really believe the stereotypes that we are all easygoing, slow (imbecilic?) etc. here in the South? Go see who fought the majority of America’s wars under US draft from the end of the WBTS (Hint: “War Eagle” was common graffiti in WWII. YOU figure out why). Go see who were the test engineers and techs in the Saturn rocket program in the ’60s (bet you didn’t know the test facility at Redstone was in Huntsville, AL, did you? HAHAHAHA! My dad was one of those test engineers–NOT a grad of CalTech or of MIT, but of Auburn University in AL where he earned a BEEE courtesy of the GI bill after his service in the Korean Conflict.).

      Go see who did all of that while suffering under a devastating loss of infrastructure and agricultural output, military and civil occupation (constant, unremitting, and ongoing), economic destruction, and continual bashing in the press and by the US government (FDR said that we were the cause of the Great Depression! No. The Dust Bowl and big financier greed were. Oh, but FDR’s an industrious, active, smart Yankee, therefore he can’t be wrong. My bad. At my age I should know better than to criticize the godemperors of Yankeedom. All Hail!)

      There’s an old poem you should read: “Still Rebels Still Yankees”; as well as two books: “War Crimes Against Southern Civilians,” and “Southern by the Grace of God.” We got no Marshall Plan to help us rebuild after Yankees devastated our country by burning, killing, pillaging, and raping (read some of the horrors inflicted on the poor freedwomen by these animals who’d supposedly come to help them!). Baggage trains miles long carried loot from our homes, no matter how humble, to the rapacious North. We have letters preserved from their women asking their rapist murderer men to “bring me something nice from one of their houses.” We had a Congresscritter from Wisconsin saying into the Congressional Record that he wished for every bear, wolf, freedman, and catamount to kill every white Southerner. You might want to look up what a catamount is. It has nothing to do with wildcats.

      We never surrendered. There was never a peace treaty. Our “voting back into the union” was fake, forced, and unconstitutional. We are the only section of the USA to ever know military defeat and occupation. Yeah, we are a conquered people, a despised race that is blamed for every ill in this country. So, if we seem easy going and slow to you, maybe you can see it as cagy, angry, and knowing we are not liked or wanted but yet not allowed to leave our conqueror’s clutches. Think of a lady who is kidnapped and held in a basement and beaten and starved and raped for her captor’s sadistic pleasure. Wen she is found years later, would she be bubbly, outgoing, quick, assertive, and brash? Hardly. So are we like this hypothetical victim. Any conquered people are. Look at the plight of the conquered Native Indians. But, hey, at least they were afforded nation status and given their own reservation, even if they are poor and victimized by substance abuse. We got nothing but continual abuse. At least they are chic and a protected class, even though they made war on the almighty godemperors of Yankeedom. I guess it’s different for whites.

      We should lie down and continue taking this sh*t? I think not.

      And now you know why this rift with Sessions is so raw. It is WBTS II and a lot of us down in the lazy, stupid South are deeply enraged over this, no matter that we voted for the President and support his stated policies. His private life is a shambles. He is obnoxious and arrogant. I care not one whit for him as a person. I do care for and pray for him as a President, though. His policies got him elected by Flyover Country, not his persona. Oh, but I didn’t see almighty NY and CA voting for him, though, did I? The bastions of activity, intelligence, education, and assertion did not like this President’s policies and did not vote for them. So, who’s really stupid and slow, friend?

      I do not support airing dirty laundry in Twitter. I do not support the President playing head games with Sessions. He should be a man and fire Sessions or ask for his resignation already. Real men do that.

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      • Ogzy says:

        Yours is a very informative rant, Alligator.

        My guess is that you’ll be surprised to learn that I have always (since I was in my early teens) thought the Civil War should never have been fought, and that the admiration that surrounds President Lincoln is undeserved.

        My post was regarding Jeff Sessions and I stand by it. He appears to be lethal when it comes to the small folk, but ‘gentlemanly’ when he comes to miscreants at the top.

        In reference to Trump’s tweets, you talk about what a ‘real man’ would do.

        If Sessions is a real man, and is as loyal as we are told he is, he should’ve offered his resignation to President Trump immediately.

        Also, I disagree with your assessment of Trump. His ‘private life’ is NOT a mess and he’s NOT ‘arrogant’.


  30. gymcy81 says:

    Sounds like more trusted hands – in addition to Sessions- are needed on deck, not less.

    How is the rest of appointee confirmation process going? (To replace the bo holdovers)

    There are many issues – from last 8 yrs – to pursue, with due diligence (not just insinuation).
    And yes, many already have been getting done in 6 months.

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    • gymcy81 says:

      …and yes it is frustrating to some that some of the media will run stories with insinuations (lacking facts or adequate discovery to have a case or complete story),
      yet lawful actions need more than rumor or insinuations. Plus it helps to have the correct people on each of the cases.

      [Early in each of their terms, didn’t Bush and Obama tend the resignations of 30 some existing attorneys – in some administrative capacity – and hire replacements? I think the media squawked foul tactics when Bush did it, but was relatively quiet when bo did similar.]
      Please clarify.

      Thank you


  31. fedback says:

    I remember AG Sessions’ maiden speech at the DOJ.
    He talked about how much he loves the DOJ
    It’s a noble attitude but these are dangerous times and perhaps his focus should be on the country rather than the DOJ as an institution. Hopefully it is
    I like Sessions very much so hopefully he will show us that he is the right man for the job


    • mimbler says:

      I didn’t like that speech because the current DOJ is a snakepit created by Holder and Obama. His speech should have been about how he would return DOJ to the state where he could love it again.


  32. gary says:

    Here is my emotional take on Trump and Sessions:

    Trump: “Get the job done, Just do it. Or I’ll get someone else that will do it.”

    Sessions: ” I don’t feel comfortable doing that and I’m not sure that is the right thing to do.”

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  33. Trumpire says:

    So here’s another little nugget.

    Guess who was involved in prosecuting Whitewater where the only people who went to prison were the McDougals and Gov. Jim Guy Tucker? The Clintons escaped as usual.

    That would be one Mr. Rod Rosenstein.

    Twice I’ve seen mentions, unsubstantiated rumors, that Rosenstein was put into the heirarchy by Obama on Jan. 19. Yes, he was already at the DOJ but that in the same way Obama positioned swamp mole Sally Q. Yates he did the same with Rosenstein. At least that’s the speculation. We know for a fact that Obama did do this with Yates.

    Now I’m not sure how this all works. Rosenstein did have to go through confirmation hearings but I get the same impression from both Trump and Session that each seems to think the other one is the one that picked Rosenstein. I could be wrong but Trump’s comments definitely make it seem like Trump didn’t know who he was. And that would make sense. Why would Trump know who he was? He wouldn’t. He would count on his people to know these things. Sessions would be the more likely one to know of Rosenstein.

    The transtion team picked him from Obama’s DOJ. Why?

    On wikipedia it says he’s a Republican and so what? Comey called himself a Republican.

    In this article even Rosenstein doesn’t seem to know how he was chosen or is he just being purposely vague?

    Who Is Rod Rosenstein?


    “In the mid-1990s Rosenstein was recruited to a team of prosecutors that handled the Whitewater Development Corporation investigation, the case that looked into Bill and Hillary Clinton’s business dealings with an associate. In what was a highly politicized, highly partisan investigation, Rosenstein came out in exemplary form.”

    “When Trump came to the White House, he was the only remaining holdover from the Bush era. In the interview with the Sun, Rosenstein said that as Trump took office he got calls from attorneys all over the country asking how they might keep their jobs. “Here’s what I did,” Rosenstein told the Sun about his advice, “I sat in my office and did my job, and I’m grateful someone made the decision to keep me here.”


    Unlike his boss, Attorney General Jeff Sessions, Rosenstein did not campaign with Trump or offer any kind of high-profile support. But his straight-arrow reputation may have been a useful tool for the administration.”

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    • Trumpire says:

      So Rosestein worked under Mueller. Presumably during the Clinton Whitewater investigation?

      McConnell defends Comey firing as Schumer calls for special prosecutor


      Rosenstein is a 52-year old native of Philadelphia who earned his law degree at Harvard University, graduating cum laude in 1989 after serving as editor of the Harvard Law Review, a position that Obama also once held. Rosenstein then worked as a law clerk for Judge Douglas H. Ginsburg of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit.

      Rosenstein joined the Department of Justice in 1990, prosecuting public corruption cases in a division then led by Assistant Attorney General Robert S. Mueller III, who later served as FBI director for two years under George W. Bush and Obama.


      Despite being appointed U.S. attorney by Bush, Obama retained Rosenstein in the job and Holder gave him high-profile assignments, such as rooting out leakers. Rosenstein was part of the 2012 federal probe into retired Marine Gen. James Cartwright, who pleaded guilty last year – and later was pardoned by Obama – to lying to the FBI about his discussions with reporters on Iran’s nuclear program.


      • Trumpire says:

        Already knew Comey was part of the team working for the Clintons.

        So Comey, Mueller, and Rosenstein. The three amigos.

        Who is James Comey: 7 things to know about the fired FBI director

        He’d investigated the Clintons previously

        In fact, the email server probe marked the third time Comey has investigated Bill or Hillary Clinton.

        Their first run-in came in the mid-1990s, when Comey joined the Senate Whitewater Committee as a deputy special counsel. There he dug into allegations that the Clintons took part in a fraud connected to a Arkansas real estate venture gone bust. No charges were ever brought against either Clinton, but the scandal would eventually lead to independent counsel Kenneth Starr’s probe that would result in the Lewinsky scandal.

        In 2002, Comey, then a federal prosecutor, took over an investigation into President Bill Clinton’s 2001 pardon of financier Marc Rich, who had been indicted on a laundry list of charges before fleeing the country. The decision set off a political firestorm focused on accusations that Rich’s ex-wife Denise made donations to the Democratic Party, the Clinton Library and Hillary Clinton’s 2000 Senate campaign as part of a plan to get Rich off the hook. Comey ultimately decided not to pursue the case.

        The kicker: Comey himself had overseen Rich’s prosecution between 1987 and 1993.


    • Sherlock says:

      “The transtion team picked him from Obama’s DOJ. Why?”
      Good question. The transition team people that were publicly listed as being tasked with Justice appointments were a bunch I’ve never heard of–I didn’t recognize a single name. Posted the list two days ago.

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  34. America First says:

    I’m an optimist when it comes to Trump. Here’s a guy supposed to have like a 160 IQ who contemplated running for President for years, and held off so presumably it was the right time and he was properly prepared. No way I believe he’s gotten caught with his pants down this bad, and let this many swamp creatures into his administration unwittingly. I believe this Sessions stuff is a set up by Trump, a long play ti rurn the tables. The hiring of Wray for FBI director with his Comey, Mueller connections makes more sense if you believe the 4chan rumor that Mueller has been pardoned and is working for the good guys in exchange. Perhaps Wray comes per Mueller’s recommendation. I mean if you’re worried about getting confirmations past a crooked Senate, flipping swamp creatures and hiring them as hidden allies makes sense as 4D chess. No way I believe Trump has been this gullible and unprepared as this article suggests. No offense.


  35. gymcy81 says:

    A deputy AG has previously recommended the termination of the FBI director.

    DT needs to be careful of a ‘process’ charge, a la obstructing a (fake) investigation.

    DT does not ‘need’ a recused Sessions to check on Mueller.

    There are already legal processes.


  36. MVW says:

    This is all ‘Spy vs Spy’ crap. Time will tell, maybe, if we are lucky….


  37. Founding Fathers Fan says:

    Re: ‘The entire scheme is riddled with complexity; almost too complex for the average person to understand,…’
    President Trump has distracted you, too. Are you one of those ‘average persons’ that this is too complex for?


  38. Bull Durham says:

    Report on NPR today that Sessions has left the country.
    He’s headed to El Salvador to force them to wipe out M-13, to take them into their prisons when we are done deporting them, and to assist the US in annihilating them at the source.

    Jeff is taking care of business.
    M-13 is so dangerous they have overpowered the much larger Bloods and Crypts in Southern California. No small accomplishment for murderous criminals.

    Keep things in perspective, regarding AG Sessions. And have a laugh. It’s good for the soul.

    Here’s a good one from Andy Borowitz:

    WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Saying that the problem “is far worse than I imagined,” Attorney General Jeff Sessions on Wednesday urged First Lady Melania Trump to intensify her campaign against cyberbullying.

    Speaking to reporters from his office at the Justice Department, Sessions said that, whatever Mrs. Trump had done to eliminate the scourge of cyberbullying, “It clearly has not been enough.”
    “From my perspective, cyberbullying is very much a growing problem,” he said. “And with every passing day it gets worse and worse.”

    Sessions said that, while he understands that Mrs. Trump has many other responsibilities as First Lady, “anything you can do to get cyberbullying to stop will be very much personally appreciated by me.”
    “Please help,” he said, his voice quavering.

    In an official statement released later in the day, the First Lady said that she had “kind of forgotten” about her campaign to stop cyberbullying but that she would “get right on it.”

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  39. Jimmy Jack says:

    My questions n is if this is really the only database Mad Maxine Waters was talking about or if there is something even more nefarious using NSA collected data. I suspect the latter is also in place.

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    • Sherlock says:

      I always thought they had also used Google and others companies to mine data for their campaign, and thereafter. Remember that revolving cast of Google types that visited the white house literally hundreds of times, and the Google employee that ended up in State, etc? Heck, remember Google’s communications with HRC about the app they created to located dissidents during an uprising somewhere?


  40. Bruce says:

    “With that in mind perhaps it’s worthwhile pointing out a simple example of internal DOJ corruption that AG Sessions is intentionally avoiding.”

    Has Jeff Sessions ever stated he refuses to address internal corruption? Did I miss something?


  41. NYGuy54 says:

    Trolls get paid by the comments they generate. They want you to converse with them. So they throw in a few nice things combined with some inflammatory things


  42. jojo says:

    Professional politicians like Sessions, don’t think like business people. They make a living with perks forever off the taxpayer and don’t have to work at the speed of TRUMP. Get the job done already. I trust our CITIZEN SELECTED & ELECTED PRESIDENT to do the right thing for us little adorable deplorable citizens.

  43. raymond martin says:

    i sent some money to the Tea Party in the very early stages of its existence. I got audited for TWO consecutive years by the IRS, and whenever I suggested a link between the two events (there honestly is very little reason for the IRS to have any interest in me) my liberal friends scoffed.

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  44. Sayit2016 says:

    Ok… so Learner trots up to the Justice Department and delivers CD’s of personal info taken illegally from the IRS on taxpayers ( TEA PARTY) who do not support the President. My question would be who told Learner to take this information to Eric Holder ? Did she just wake up one day and copy this information on her own and take it to Holder ? Does anyone actually believe this ?

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  45. I think everyone is missing a point I never see mentioned about all this…

    If DJT talked to JS privately (as everyone in public apparently thinks he should, and is normally done in business), it would EXPLODE with the media and others insisting it was inappropriate and covert and it would just be another scandal.

    So he talks to him via Twitter, which allows him to say what he wants, in a way that is obviously not secretive at all, and isn’t illegal, and mostly just gets the media, who hated Sessions before, to defend him solely because it lets them bash DJT for dinging him publicly.

    You see, if he tells JS privately something he may be considered interfering, especially if it’s “investigate the people I despise most” essentially. But if he is just “ranting personally and generally about what upsets him this morning at 3am,” to “the world at large” — it’s different. See?


  46. Just to add a point to it: do you notice he never talks TO Sessions in his tweets? He talks ABOUT Sessions. There’s a reason!


  47. nsb says:

    There was a time when Americans believed in freedom.

    The US is dying from a million cuts. Part of the reason the USA is a nanny police state now is that whenever there is a problem, the kneejerk reaction in the US is to call for a new law.

    Nanny state laws are not the best solution, however. Nanny state laws lead to more laws, higher fines, and tougher sentences. Thirty-five years ago, DWI laws were enacted that led to DWI checkpoints and lower DWI levels. Seatbelt laws led to backseat seatbelt laws, childseat laws, and pet seatbelt laws. Car liability insurance laws led to health insurance laws and gun liability laws. Smoking laws that banned smoking in buildings led to laws against smoking in parks and then bans against smoking in entire cities. Sex offender registration laws led to sex offender restriction laws and violent offender registration laws.

    Nanny state laws don’t make us safer, either. Nanny state laws lead people to be careless since they don’t need to have personal responsibility anymore. People don’t need to be careful crossing the street now because drunk-driving has been outlawed and driving while using a mobile phone is illegal. People don’t investigate companies or carry out due diligence because businesses must have business licenses now.

    The main point of nanny state laws is not safety. The main purposes of more laws are control and revenue generation for the state.

    Another reason laws are enacted is because corporations give donations to lawmakers to stifle competition or increase sales.

    Many laws are contradictory, too. Some laws say watering lawns is required, while other laws say watering lawns is illegal.

    Many nanny state laws that aim to solve a problem can be fixed by using existing laws. If assault is already illegal, why do we need a new law that outlaws hitting umpires?

    Nanny state laws are not even necessary. If everything was legal would you steal, murder, and use crack cocaine? Aren’t there other ways to solve problems besides calling the police? Couldn’t people educate or talk to people who bother them? Couldn’t people be sued for annoying behavior? Couldn’t people just move away? Even if assault was legal, wouldn’t attackers risk being killed or injured, too? Do people have consciences? Having no laws doesn’t mean actions have no consequences.

    If there is no victim, there is no crime.

    We don’t need thousands of laws when we only need 10.

    Should swimming pools be banned because they are dangerous? Hammers? Bottles? Rocks? Energy drinks? Pillows?

    Where does it end?

    If one state can have self-serve gas stations, why can’t every state have them? If sodas were legal 20 years ago, why can’t they be legal now?

    Freedom is not just a one way street. You can only have freedom for yourself if you allow others to have it.

    Control freaks might get angry when a neighbor owns three indoor cats, but what did the neighbor take from them? Why should this be illegal? Is outlawing cats something a free country should do? Doesn’t banning everything sound like the opposite of liberty?

    Instead of getting mad at people who like freedom, why don’t people realize that freedom is a two way street?

    If you allow others to paint their house purple then you can, too.

    If you allow others to own a gun then you can, too.

    If you allow others to swear then you can, too.

    If you allow others to gamble then you can, too.

    Who wants to live in a prison?

    Think. Question everything.


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