Monday June 12th – Open Thread

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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147 Responses to Monday June 12th – Open Thread

  1. Treepers, justfactsplz has left us a message over on the Prayer thread. Has been thru a most difficult time with and after surgery. Perhaps everyone could go over there and send her some love and prayers. God bless you all! 💖💕

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  2. dogsmaw says:

    Einstein letters on God, McCarthy, Israel go up for auction

    https://apnews.com/0a270ab3946e4ba9873b47140af70a3f

    JERUSALEM (AP) — A collection of letters written by Albert Einstein is set to go to auction next week, offering a new glimpse at the Nobel-winning physicist’s views on God, McCarthyism and what was then the newly established state of Israel.

    The five original letters, dated 1951 to 1954 and signed by Einstein, reveal a witty and sensitive side of the esteemed scientist. They were sent to quantum physicist David Bohm, a colleague who fled the United States for Brazil in 1951 after refusing to testify about his links to the Communist Party to the House Un-American Activities Committee.

    Bohm’s widow’s estate put the documents on the block after she passed away last year. One of the yellowing pages, bearing Einstein’s signature and embossed seal, and a handwritten general relativity equation, opens at $8,000 and is expected to sell for at least twice that. In all, the collection is expected to fetch over $20,000.

    Einstein and Bohm became friends when they both worked at Princeton University. Their letters touch on quantum physics, the nature of the divine and Bohm’s miserable time in Brazil.

    “If God has created the world his primary worry was certainly not to make its understanding easy for us,” Einstein assured Bohm in February 1954, a year before his death.

    In another letter from February 1953, Einstein compares “the present state of mind” of America gripped by McCarthyist anti-Communism to the paranoia in Germany in the early 20th century under Kaiser Wilhelm II. Republican Sen. Joseph McCarthy in the 1950s led a hunt for alleged communist traitors he believed worked in the government and the army.

    Bohm, who left the United States in the midst of the so-called Red Scare, conveyed dismay and displeasure about living in Brazil, where he was working at the University of Sao Paulo. He said he had trouble adjusting to the local food.

    Einstein, then 75, offers sympathy to his younger colleague for the “instability of your belly, a matter where I have myself extended experience.” He suggested getting a good cook.

    Einstein said the foreseeable future didn’t portend a “more reasonable political attitude” in the United States, and that Bohm ought to hold out in Brazil until he gets citizenship before leaving for a more “intellectual atmosphere.”

    One idea that came up was relocating to Israel, which had declared independence in 1948. But despite Einstein’s ties to Israel’s Hebrew University, he believed the country offered limited opportunities. Einstein himself declined an offer in 1952 to become Israel’s president, though he served remotely on the Hebrew University’s first Board of Governors and left his papers to the school in his will.

    “Israel is intellectually active and interesting but has very narrow possibilities,” the Nobel laureate wrote. “And to go there with the intention to leave on the first occasion would be regrettable.”

    Despite Einstein’s counsel, Bohm, who was Jewish, left Brazil for Israel in 1955, where he taught at Haifa’s Technion Institute of Technology for two years. There he met his wife, Sarah Woolfson. They married in 1956. A year later the couple moved to the United Kingdom, where Bohm taught at Bristol University until his death in 1992.

    Mrs. Bohm returned to Israel after her husband’s death and resided in Jerusalem. She died in April 2016 and her estate put her husband’s letters from Einstein up for sale at Winner’s auction house in Jerusalem.

    Roni Grosz, curator of the Albert Einstein Archives at Hebrew University in Jerusalem, home to the world’s largest collection of Einstein material, said copies of the Bohm letters were already in the archive and that there was “nothing extraordinary” about them. But he said anything connected to Einstein tends to generate interest.

    “There’s today tremendous interest in all things Einstein. Einstein documents, letters, drafts are being on sale all the time,” he said. “There’s barely a month that passes with no Einstein documents in auction or in sale.”

    The auction, which includes copies of other letters sent by Einstein and correspondence by fellow Nobel laureate Louis de Broglie, will be held on June 20, though early bids are being accepted online.

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  3. BigMamaTEA says:

    While we were all watching Comey last week……I guess this guy must be pretty clean, cause….this guy got harangued by the Bernster for being a Christian? Trump’s nominee for the White House Office of Budget and Management, Russ Vought.

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  4. Lucille says:

    “THIS is why Sharia Law is dangerous. Watch.”
    Tipping Point With Liz Wheeler on OAN

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  5. BigMamaTEA says:

    Louie Gohmert questioning Mueller on June 13, 2013 – 2 months after the Boston bombing.

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  6. BigMamaTEA says:

    Which leads me to this h/t Rick Wells…

    “Gohmert Exposed Mueller As Terrorism Facilitator, Cover Man In House Testimony”

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  7. BigMamaTEA says:

    h/t Rick Wells……because it’s late on this thread, I’m going to post it all – http://rickwells.us/morris-indict-comey-leaking-rogue-egomaniac-not-law/

    “Indict Comey For Leaking, Rogue Egomaniac Not Above The Law”

    …………Dick Morris asks the question, “Just who the heck does James Comey think he is? Is he somewhere above God? First he intervenes in the presidential election to clear Hillary’s name in the email scandal. And he rules that she was careless but cannot be prosecuted – the ‘ruling.’ Then he intervenes two weeks before the election to say – ‘oh, wait a minute, we have new evidence, maybe she can be prosecuted.’ Then he intervenes three days before the election to say ‘oh, wait a minute, false alarm, we looked at all the stuff, there’s nothing there.’ I mean you talk about influencing the election.”

    “Then,” says Morris, “he gets this dossier that’s filled with garbage about Donald Trump and he decides to send it to the President, to the leaders of Congress, and then takes it upon himself to brief Donald Trump about it. And of course, when you brief it that widely, it gets out and it goes into the media, which he knew damn well it would.”

    Morris says, “Then he goes into all these meetings with his boss, the President of the United States, and he takes notes, he memos, he does memos of them, of each meeting, he says to protect himself. I don’t think it was to protect himself, it was to get Donald Trump, which he obviously wanted to do because he had moved that dossier, which, in five minutes he would have found out were lies. And he put that out so that it would get into the public.”

    Morris continues, “Then he takes his memos and he sends them to a friend of his, a law professor, at Columbia, who leaks them to the media. And he does that knowing full well, and admitted it in his testimony, that the reason he did that was to spur the momentum to name a special prosecutor. So in effect he’s making all the decisions for the United States.”

    “Now first of all there’s one very separate question here. I think James Comey should be indicted for leaking. I think the head of the FBI is not above the law. And if it’s illegal for Reality Winner to leak material, the NSA employee, then it sure is illegal for the head of the FBI to do it.” Morris says, “And we have to assume that this was not an isolated leak. If the pattern is that he leaks, and he leaked this and he will leak other stuff, he probably is the source for a whole lot of the news stories that have been going after President Trump.”

    “So of course he needed to be fired,” observes Morris, “of course it’s the right decision to fire him. It amounts to an insubordination akin to General MacArthur’s insubordination of President Truman in Korea which resulted in his being fired. You simply can’t let your FBI Director just run loose.”

    Morris adds that “It’s just outrageous that this guy was the leaker. What we’re dealing here, with, is an egomaniac run wild. And I don’t mean Donald Trump – I mean James Comey.”………

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  8. BigMamaTEA says:

    AG Sessions Open hearing, Senate Intel Committee tomorrow, Tues. 13, 2017 -2:30pmEST

    https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/hearings

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  9. Ber Knar says:

    Recently retired and can stay up late. Watched Seth Myers last night. First 30 min of “jokes” we’re totally anti-Pres. Then it struck me that he looks and sounds a lot like Rachel Madcow.

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