Higher Resolution Images Show Philando Castile Handgun at Scene of Shooting…

The original narrative presented by Diamond “Lavish” Reynolds, in the aftermath of the Falcon Heights shooting, is in complete collapse.  Reluctantly, even Mediaite and MSM are now having to concede officers Jeronimo Yanez and Joseph Kauser initially pulled over Philando Castile because he fit the exact description of an armed robbery suspect.

The leak of the radio transmissions surrounding the stop is irrefutable evidence the MSM are forced to accept.  The best efforts of agenda-driven Snopes to obfuscate and refute the claim have embarrassingly failed.  The truth continues to have no agenda.

Additionally, some higher resolution images from initial media on scene (hat tip Annette Kelly) are supporting the outline provided by officer Yanez attorney that Yanez was reacting to Philando Castile displaying a handgun toward Yanez:

Philando Castile - Falcon Heights Police Shooting

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High Resolution Pictures from Tony Webster – Castile’s handgun is clearly evidence by marker #6 in the above photograph (click to explore).

In addition there is visible blood on the “exterior” of the door, just below the driver’s window, as denoted by marker #9.

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mn lavish abcThere are now several bits of circumstantial and forensic evidence to support the rough-sketch outline of the incident as reported by the St Anthony Police Department, and the attorney for Officer Jeronimo Yanez.

The presented narration of Diamond “Lavish” Reynolds continues to collapse with further scrutiny of her initial claims (as broadcast via Facebook live-stream).

As a consequence her attorney, Larry Rogers Jr. (Chicago) is no longer allowing Reynolds to discuss the incident (prior to the livestream) with media.

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Interestingly, several days ago we noted the brand of cigarettes stolen from the USA convenience store (3 cartons on suspect #1 CCTV Image below) were Newport.  While the brand itself is a popular menthol cigarette smoked by many within the black community, the appearance therein was yet another dot in an otherwise cloudy set of events.

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The website GotNews is now reporting the numerically sequenced state tax stamp, federally mandated to be applied to each package of cigarettes by the retail outlet or wholesaler, matches the tax stamp on the Newport cigarettes found on Ms. Castile.

We would note extreme caution in considering this claim.  Within the tax stamp process it is very challenging to identify distribution; and we are unable to independently confirm whether Super-USA convenience store stamps their own cigarettes -via a corporate distribution warehouse- or whether they use a wholesale supply entity for cigarette delivery – each state and each retailer has different supply chain and restock methods.

Worth noting however, is the eyeglasses worn by Suspect #2 in the CCTV release provided by Saint Anthony Police Department during their BOLO request for identification assistance.

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Suspect #2 is wearing a two tone eyeglass frame with lighter ear pieces than the ocular frame.  The frames of the eyeglasses appear very similar to frames worn by Philando Castile in a picture provided to media by Diamond Reynolds:

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The hat worn by suspect #1 appears to be a Ralph Lauren POLO cap as noted below:

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The original descriptions of the two armed robbery suspects as presented by the original BOLO media alert were as follows:

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[…] Employees described one suspect [USA1] to police as a black man with longer than shoulder-length dreadlocks, who wore blue jeans, a green plaid long-sleeved shirt, dark-color shoes with white highlights, glasses and a baseball cap printed with marijuana leaves, the release says. He may have had a mustache.

The other suspect [USA2] was described as a black man with shoulder-length dreadlocks, who wore tan pants, tan shoes with white soles, a green jacket, a green baseball cap and glasses, the release says. He also had some of his hair pulled into a bun through the strap on the back of his hat and had a small mustache and facial hair on his chin (link)

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The importance of this similarity is because it speaks to the reason that officers Jeronimo Yanez and Joseph Kauser pulled over the vehicle occupied by Philando and Diamond.

This reasoning was presented in a police radio transmission prior to Yanez and Kauser exiting their vehicle.  The motive for the stop was outlined in the police audio.

“I’m going to stop a car. I’m going to check IDs.  I have reason to pull it over.”

“The two occupants just look like people that were involved in a robbery. The driver looks more like one of our suspects, just ‘cause of the wide set nose.” (link)

The claims of an arbitrary stop due to racial profiling are entirely false.  The officers were on radio (audio embedded in tweet above) stating the stop was due to the possible suspect match in a prior robbery.

Based on all the evidence known so far, this inquiry by the officers was based on solid suspicions.  There is no racial motive other than the Philando Castile matching, very closely matching, the eye witness description of one of the convenience store armed robbers – who were both also black.

Ms. Diamond Reyonds claimed during her New York media tour that Philando never displayed his handgun to officer Yanez.  However, a screen grab of Philando during Reynolds broadcast shows a high probability of a handgun on the lap (left thigh) of Philando.

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This handgun appears to be the same weapon as noted by Marker #6 in the photographs taken near the scene of the shooting.

Philando Castile - Falcon Heights Police Shooting

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Officer Jeronimo Yanez (who is Mexican/American)

Reference Material: All prior CTH research and discussion outlines of The Falcon Heights shooting are located HERE.

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594 Responses to Higher Resolution Images Show Philando Castile Handgun at Scene of Shooting…

  1. sayit2016 says:

    Ok.. 6 th verse same as the first….same reaction everytime… Bad COP –good harmless black men just minding their own business. I would think that if I had robbed a store a few days before and a cop was pulling me over and I was not speeding, I had not run a red light etc I would be thinking ok– this is going down. Lets wait to get the FULL statement from the involved officer. From what I see the BOLO was accurate. The profile fits the profile.

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  2. Stinky-Inky says:

    Check out: the shoes next to the car and the shoes on the perp with the polo cap.

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    • Good catch! A very close match!

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    • Same shoes. But…

      “How else are poor deprived and lacking the privilege of white folks going to supplement their existence with the things they need???”
      ~Barack Obama

      Yeah.

      We all need to realize that it IS game on, and if you aren’t already prepared to defend your own life, you better get there quickly.

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    • Strike1 says:

      Not the same shoes. The shoes on street have black laces and the shoes during robbery have white laces.
      I also think the “street shoes” are more like a running shoe and the “robbery shoes” are more like a preppy low top shoe with more a flat bottom.
      Just my opinion. Could be wrong

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        • Strike1 says:

          I think the left robbery shoe has a “polo” logo near the outer front lace hole. I blew it up 500 times and it is a darker area and the shape is consistent with the official polo logo.
          Can’t find a polo shoe with logo that far forward…though.

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      • Lynn Humphrey says:

        His sideburns as he lay dying look a lot heavier and filled in–in the convenience store picture, the sides of his face look completely clean of hair. Also if they were truly looking for a dangerous armed robbery suspect, wouldnt they treat him as dangerous right from the gate—not “him haw” around with some broken tailight banter.? Maybe Yanez didnt proceed correctly, in that regard….Shouldnt it be “get out of the car at once, with your hands up” If you know you have the right car, and the man looks similar, and the street is the same.. Why poke around looking in the window–get down to business, call for backup and proceed—armed suspects are dangerous, are they not?

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    • maiingankwe says:

      Stinky-Inky,
      I don’t know if it’s the light, but the laces don’t look white, but a light blue (the one on the right). The one on the left, it looks like the tongue of the shoe, not the laces. The laces do not seem to be visible on the left side of the picture.
      I’d say heck of a good eye though on your part.

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      • Strike1 says:

        You are seeing the back of the left shoe. It has a “V” shaped logo on the back of heal.

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        • Max Saxon says:

          Actually the heels in the top pic — enlarged version — shows an inverted triangle that is either white of silver, contain a series of 5 horizontal stripes that varying in width from very short at the bottom to successively wider stripes — matching the expanding width of the inverted triangle.

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      • Stinky-Inky says:

        The laces on the shoes next to the car do look darker in the second photo that the laces on the shoes in the store, but the lighting is poor in that car photo. I was struck by the white soles and darker upper.

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        • Strike1 says:

          The shoes in the link above are more like the ones worn by the robbery suspect not the ones by the car.
          The ones by the car are. Dark color (black?) with silver rubber around bottom. If you look there is something white near the shoe and you can tell its white. So, the lighting is not playing with our eyes.

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    • Whoo! What an eagle eye! Good catch.

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    • asariah says:

      Great observation!

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    • KBR says:

      There’s something else that bothers me. The hand on the carton of Newports in that photo in the store. It looks small for a man’s hand. If you have access to a cigarette carton, put your hand on it and see what you think.
      Also, is there something a few inches long and black in that hand holding that cigarette carton, or is there some kind of extension actually on the index finger (looks kind of like a short antenna?) What is that? I can’t make it out.

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      • Just Scott says:

        I think what you are catching there is that the carton in the robber’s hand is 100mm length cigarettes, instead of normal 85mm length. Are the Newport’s in Lavish’s pics 85’s or 100’s?

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    • David says:

      And if he did do it, “Diamond” knew it too this entire time.

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      • bearsgrrr says:

        The cops said “the two occupants looked like the robbery suspects”, which I take to mean they both fit the BOLO, Lavish as the getaway driver.

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      • Max Saxon says:

        Lavish’s actions reflect not shock and horror, but “guilty knowledge” as it is called in the law enforcement community.

        When Perp next to her is shot, her first though is to create a distraction from herself and the totality of the situation. Only someone with guilty knowledge of the perp’s crimes would behave as she did.

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    • Nettles18 says:

      The high resolution photos were taken by photojournalist Tony Webster. Here is a closer look at the shoes Mr. Castile was wearing on July 9th (the day of traffic stop)

      The other shoe shows the front of the shoe. In this shot, you can see 2 shell casing at marker 8 and also a closer look at marker 6, the gun.

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      • Sargon says:

        The gun probably fell out as he was removed. He was still alive at that point.

        Be interesting to know if the gun’s safety was off and whether there is a round in chamber.

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        • Clc says:

          I don’t think the cops would have allowed the gun to stay near the suspect. Cop probably took it out and put it on the ground.

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          • maiingankwe says:

            Why would they put it on the ground where it could get kicked? Wouldn’t they put it on the car?
            I wondered why the heck it was on the ground of all places, and could only come up with the idea that when they were moving him the gun dropped to ground and that is where it has to stay when they collect evidence. Remember they always say, “Don’t touch or move the evidence!”

            Take care Clc, and please don’t read it as a snippy response, It wasn’t my intention. Be well.
            Ma’iingankwe

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        • James Crawford says:

          The handgun by the marker is a Glock. It has no manual safety. It is not the same gun that is being brandished by the suspect in the video.

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          • sundance says:

            What video? and be very specific.

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            • James Crawford says:

              Excuse me. When I wrote “video” I was referring to the still photos of the robbery suspect that you posted.

              I’m wondering why anyone who owns a Glock would take what appears to be a Ruger .22 caliber target pistol to an armed robbery. May be he used some of the cash from the robbery to upgrade his weaponry?

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          • You are right! It has a double trigger for a safety which means both triggers have to be pulled at the same time which makes it dangerous with a round in the chamber! If trigger gets caught on something it will discharge! More reason why did he have it on his lap in the video? What part of town was he headed to or coming from that he would need quick access to Glock?

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        • maiingankwe says:

          I wondered the very same thing…was there a round in the chamber? Now that is something I would love to hear from the msm. I know, still dreaming.

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          • James Crawford says:

            Carrying a pistol loaded with a round chambered is perfectly normal and shows no criminal intent.

            There are two obvious scenarios here:

            The cop heard he had a gun, saw the gun, and perhaps saw an innocent but suggestive motion then fired.

            The driver of the car had his pistol drawn and ready to fire at the cop as he approached his door.

            The fact that the driver didn’t fire causes me to think that perhaps the first scenario might be true. The number of killings by police have soared in recent years while killings of cops and arrests for violent crimes have remained static. The BLM people are racist morons but thanks to Bill Clinton’s propaganda about Assault Weapons, many police are paranoid.

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            • Trent Telenko says:

              The number of killings by police have soared in recent years while killings of cops and arrests for violent crimes have remained static

              Not so. You are missing the effects of both police body armor and improved trauma care since 1973.

              The gist from the links below seems to suggest a concerted information campaign since 2007 to get US police officers to consistently wear body armor as general wear. Given wide spread use since 1987 — enough to justify tracking the lives saved — there also seems to be an element of generational turn over going on as the older cops, who came up before wide spread body armor, move out via retirement or promotion to desk jobs.

              This is the only hard number I have seen regards police officer lives saved by ballistic body armor:

              http://www.bulletsafe.com/the-history-of-bulletproof-vests.html

              Since that time bulletproof vests have improved. Currently, a level IIIA bulletproof vest weighs approximately 5.5 pounds and can protect the wearer from almost all handgun rounds. According to the International Association of Chiefs of Police, bulletproof vests have saved over 3,000 officers’ lives since 1987.

              See this link also, but it has anecdotal evidence only from 2008 —

              http://www.policechiefmagazine.org/magazine/index.cfm?fuseaction=display_arch&article_id=1643&issue_id=102008

              This link (and chart at the link) has real officer mortality data from 1965 to June 2015 —

              http://www.nleomf.org/facts/research-bulletins/

              Firearms-related fatalities peaked in 1973, when 156 officers were shot and killed. Since then, the average number of officers killed has decreased from 127 per year in the 1970s to 57 per year in the 2000s. The 42 firearms-related fatalities in 2015 are 26 percent lower than the average of 57 per year for the decade spanning 2000-2009.

              Assuming those 3,000 officers lives were saved was prorated across 1986 to 2015 (20 years for an even divider) we are looking at 150 officers a year saved added on the graph above. Effectively the 2007 officer death spike of 107, without body armor, would be double the peak officer death year of 1973 at 140.

              Compounding the 2007 data with the improvement in trauma care since 1973, we are looking at least 3-times the rate of attempted lethal violence against cops in 2007 compared to 1973.

              Even given the fact America was 203 million in 1970 compared to 308 million in 2010, (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States) per capita rates of attempted lethal violence against cops are higher now than in 1973.

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        • Jimmy Jack says:

          That was my thought too.

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      • sundance says:

        Nettles, you have links to the original photographs? (sorry if posted before and I missed)

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      • Strike1 says:

        Thank you Nettles!
        Been trying to find that logo or that pattern on back of shoes. No luck yet

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    • Daniel says:

      Yes and the ears appear to match and THAT is a very condemning sign that the cops got their man. Ears are very often used to identify people in ways similar to finger prints. I certainly wish there were better quality images of the robbery suspects.

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      • truthseekerr says:

        but isn’t USA2 wearing sunglasses in the store with the white rims? Castile’s white rim glasses are not sunglasses. I’m confused a little

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        • WSB says:

          In the USA2 photo, that might not be tinted glass. I see a shadow above the lens as well as within the area that should be the lens. Maybe that is just shadow.

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        • momomma3 says:

          I agree they look like the sunglasses he is wearing in the Facebook picture with the Gucci shirt. I noticed Diamond is wearing the same sunglasses in the video of her telling the story the next day. You can see the sides of the glasses on her and they are light colored with a dark strip at the hinges just like the ones on suspect 2. I believe they are the glasses wornin the robbery.

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        • Nettles18 says:

          Could be snap-on shades. Quite popular with prescription glass wearers.

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        • milo minderbinder says:

          And if Leroy had done as instructed, he’d be alive. You ARE NOT going to win an argument on the side of the road, ever. AND you have no idea EXACTLY why you were stopped. You can be minding your own business in the middle of the day and vaguely match the description of a suspect, be WHITE, and get pulled over.

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  3. lorenetn says:

    Is ANYONE reporting on this developing story other than The Conservative Treehouse? I’ve seen no coverage anywhere on this. They just keep repeating what the girlfriend said (with no proof) and interviewing her as if she is totally credible. I have not even heard a word, other than here, about her rapid response in turning this into her own personal fundraiser.

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    • Blaze says:

      Just like its too late for Diamond and crew to stop their scam…its too late for the media to stop theirs too….sad isn’t it. I feel so sorry for these cops involved. No sorry for Diamond and her ilk that IMO were the direct cause of Dallas, media responsible too.

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      • clash108 says:

        The only one I feel sorry for is the 4-ty. old daughter. I see no way of her having any chance in this world as long as she with a mother like that.

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        • That’s the problem with so many of these little children…no way out. We need to have a gate to let them out and lock the gate behind them, leaving the parents inside. Grow the kids up someplace else in loving homes, boarding schools, anywhere away from their drugged to the core parents.

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          • Joe R says:

            What’s sad is that the kids in their neighborhood become victims of drive by shootings while lying in their beds in their homes. Victims of drug dealers and gang bangers stupid turf wars. Where is BLM for these kids?

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        • Noflow says:

          That would be one of the “white privileges” – good parenting

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    • anyone, like this ‘girlfriend’ who spews out agenda-driven narrative, that ends up getting people killed or injured, and that same narrative is later PROVEN to be false, should be locked up and prosecuted to the full extend of the law.

      We cannot get those LEO’s back, but there must be a way to stop this madness of questionable people spewing raw meat for the LSM to pick up and run with. In fact, these news organizations or reporters who run with this crap before it can be verified should be held to account too, now that I think about it.

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      • absolutely criminal behavior – arrest & prosecute.

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      • JeremyR says:

        And Governor goofy with her.

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      • alliwantissometruth says:

        I totally agree cinderella

        The media has a moral obligation to report the news fairly & objectively. There’s nothing we can do when they deliver biased, partisan propaganda related to politics with no immediate implications of violence, but with the advent of violent, uneducated mobs & their impulsive behaviors, the media has now become complicit in putting forth a narrative meant to incite violence & indeed, murder

        They’re putting ideology ahead of public safety by willfully relating stories without knowing the facts. Even more outrageous, they continue the false reporting after the facts have become public record

        The media filth should be charged with crimes, & punished harshly. Their propaganda & deceit are now getting cops killed

        A free press is imperative, but a partisan, dishonest press meant to incite violence as a tool for an end result is criminal & despicable

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        • 100% right, all.

          “They’re putting ideology ahead of public safety by willfully relating stories without knowing the facts.”

          and it’s not just “without knowing”. They aren’t even TRYING to verify what they hear! Rather, they are intentionally staying away from whatever source ruins their narrative. This is sickening, disgusting, immoral and should be punishable!

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          • in fact, HOW is this not punishable? I don’t hear anyone on the teeeeee veeeee demanding accurate reporting or charging those who slip falsehoods (that have time and again now proven lethal) into the public airwaves.😡

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            • WSB says:

              I so agree with you on this. There needs to be a standard of professional behavior. How many stories have contained falsehoods that have literally killed people after being unduly influenced?

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            • maiingankwe says:

              Cinderella, I even wonder if they are even aware they are complicit in the deaths of our policemen. I’m talking about the so called journalists who write in the papers or blab it on the their tv shows. I really doubt it. Now that is scary if you think about it. Their puppet masters know, but they sure as heck don’t, and if they did, I sincerely doubt they would change. The money and attention is just too darn good to be getting scruples so late in the game.

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  4. PolskaBella says:

    Amazing how a HOBBIT can bleed the truth so clearly..so concisely…KUDOS again Sundance!

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  5. John says:

    Everyone knows both shootings were staged by BLM CAIR and the Islamic invasion

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  6. quintrillion says:

    You’ve been so accurate..even noticing his ears being the same. Don’t doubt that he’s the #2 robber. He lead a double life that did him in.

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  7. MMinLamesa says:

    I watched about 1 minute of a Lavish interview this morning-it was disgusting, softballs and buckets of tears. And her lawyer.

    I note there’s several different online fundings being done for the whole sorry bunch.

    It’s a jackpot lottery for these low lifes.

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  8. TheLastDemocrat says:

    You can talk to the state tax authority on Minnesota and find out how they do their cigarette tax stamps.

    I have done this for a different state. The most common way to do this is favorable to figuring out whether “Diamond’s” Newports came from that specific site. And, roughly, when – a window – like within the recent three months or not, depending upon the company’s strategy for stocking inventory.

    For most states, the individual, exact SITE is registered with the state. So, if 7-11 has 1,000 sites in Minnesota, they would have 1,000 tax permits.

    AND: each bunch of cigarettes approved for sale at one specific site would have a set of recorded unique tax stamps.

    So, 7-11 would not buy 100,000 cartons, then distribute them among various 7-11s however they pleased.

    They can only buy for a specific site, and pay the tax for that site, then can ONLY sell those exact, specific packs at that site.

    I have done this investigation already, but in another state, to help out a grad student who wanted to analyze geographic patterns of cigarette consumption.

    If Minnesota fits this typical pattern then the tax stamp WILL tell which exact, specific location/site had those cigs – versus saying “Walmark paid the tax, but we have no idea which of the 50 Minnesota Walmarks they went to.”

    Call the state revenuer and ask how they do this.

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    • seventhndr says:

      May I humbly suggest that you call, given your knowledge on the subject, and email Sundance with your findings?

      I in no way represent TCT, but I know that Sundance encourages people to get involved, is responsive to quality info via email, and would give you credit. 👍

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    • litenmaus says:

      TLD, there is a site on the internet that is reporting that “allegedly” the tax stamp has been checked and that the cigarettes did come from the robbery. With that said, I will not post the website, I will not give credit to the author and I won’t consider the information unless another site reports on the information.

      In regard to the article & the author: Stella if you’re reading this…”Thank you for calling out the author for taking CTH data and then branding it as his own”

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    • sundance says:

      I dunno. You might want to do more research, OR there are multiple ways.

      I’ve been on the phone extensively. Also went to a cigarette distribution hub and asked, then went to a major retailer (warehouse) and….. They purchase rolls of the stamps in $50,000 lots and apply them however they want. The state sells the stamps (clear stickers) in rolls. They then apply them however they want.

      The rolls of stamps (called “lots”) are recorded on sale by the state (begin number and end number).

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      • TheLastDemocrat says:

        This sounds different than the specific state I had figured out. The state definitely wanted to have each site licensed. The chain wold buy cigs, receive them in a big warehouse, then determine across what sites to divvy up, then tax accordingly, then “pay” tax site by site. The state wants it this way so they can literally determine each and every site selling cigs, and who is selling how much.

        The parent company might write the check, but the accounting is done site by site.

        and, if you break the rule, God forbid, the assumption is you are running a scam – so they watch Walmark, Chevron, etc. like a hawk. But each state has revenuers doin whatever each state wants to do.

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      • stella says:

        The stamps also can be, and are, counterfeited by bootleggers.

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        • sundance says:

          Correct. That’s why the real ones are guarded closely. They are essentially guarded and secured (safes) as you would cash. A roll of tax stamps can be worth $20,000 to $50,000 each. They are guarded like gold. You can fit over $10 million worth in a shoe box.

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    • Blaze says:

      I think the reasoning for that is if the store had “X” amount of cigarette then they better have “X” amount of taxes that go with those smokes too. Therefore INVENTORY and accountability of each pack is critical to that store so its possible each does have a stamp to that store and a NUMBER on it for THAT STORE…I guessing here though.

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    • James F says:

      This news story has a photo of a MN cigarette tax stamp sheet.

      If you zoom in you can see unique serial numbers on each stamp.

      http://www.startribune.com/minnesota-says-cigarette-smuggling-is-a-growing-problem/291475091/

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      • LBB says:

        James, just another dual treeper posting. Happens often here.Glad we’re on the same track. I was actually looking if there are any better convenience store photos.

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    • Just Scott says:

      For what it is worth, I just looked at two cartons of Camels that I bought on the same day from my favorite gas station in Northern Virginia. They are a “low demand” version, the clerk always has to go to the storage room to get them, instead of from the drawers under the racks. They also run out of them often, I doubt they restock more than 4 cartons a week.

      Anyway, all of the packs in each respective carton have the same tax stamp, and have the same carton ID. The unique carton ID is also imprinted on the outside of the carton.

      The tax stamps for the two cartons are 25546 and 20950. The carton IDs are both FSCe, but the individual packs from the two different cartons are FSCe6 plus a carton specific number, 2EE6MB9 or 2EE6JT7.

      From this (and looking at empty packs and stamps from my smoking room trash bag) it looks like for Camels here, the stamps are unique to the carton, and the packs themselves are serial numbered by the carton.

      Maybe someone who smokes Newport’s can look at pack serial numbers…

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  9. rumpole2 says:

    THX foe the evidence update..
    Not sure what the blood spatter on outside of door is about?
    And perhaps blood pool on the ground?
    Signs of Paramedic activity?

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    • rumpole2 says:

      I get it now 🙂

      I was looking at mud splatter lower door.. I see marker #9 blood.

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    • Probably Phil’s bent left arm/elbow was out the window as he was driving and stopped. His right hand could have been on his gun in his lap where the cop could have seen it from his vantage point looking down through the driver’s window. Phil was fumbling with his gun with his right hand when the cop told him to stop moving (but he wouldn’t). That’s when the cop shot him thru the elbow (hence blood drip on outside of driver door) and chest to avoid being shot himself. Ir worked as u can see Phil’s hands crumpled away from the gun.

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      • Nettles18 says:

        I think a cop may have transferred the blood to the outside on the car. Perhaps he checked for a pulse and dripped blood on the outside of the car?

        Upon a closer look at marker 9, there are 3 blood marks on the door and one appears to indicate smeared blood on the door handle. Did the cop have a bloody hand when he opened the door?

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      • TheLastDemocrat says:

        Look – a cop finally just shoots a guy in the leg. And look where it gets him.

        Sorry – Back to center-mass now.

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    • That author makes a valid point. Would Lavish had pulled out the phone after shots were already fired, or did she actually start filming when the officer walked up.

      I understand there was body cam footage, so in the end it may not matter. Wish they would release that footage.

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      • Donald Joy says:

        That’s not my main point in the article. Read the rest of it. Did you catch her second explanation why she claims didn’t start rolling video until after the shots??? It’s huge, it’s a “tell.” She gave away, inadvertently, the truth — that she DID film the whole thing. It’s tricky but dig into it.

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      • Trumped says:

        In this case with her broadcasting the event herself it is of public interest to see the bodycam footage

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      • AdamSelene says:

        I heard the St. Anthony police don’t have body cams.

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      • Linda Ruth says:

        The other cop Krauser was at her side of the car, at the window. What did he see her do? He is not being referred to, but he was there. Shouldn’t he have been telling her to get out of the car at the time she was using her phone to record? What was he doing?

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        • oldiadguy says:

          Don’t know for sure, but I think Kauser may have got the little girl out of the car. He may have been the officer in the video holding the girl.

          If Kauser was doing his part in the car stop, he would have seen what Castile did. Kauser is also on administrative leave.

          Take care

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        • Nettles18 says:

          We can piece together a bit of a timeline. We know that Reynold’s connected with Facebook Livestream at 9:06pm. We know from the livefeed the child had already been removed from the car and at 1 minute and 32 seconds after livestreaming began, we see the cops order Reynolds out of the car with her hands up. Her video continues to stream so we know she exited the car with her phone in her hand. Once cuffed that phone fell to the ground and we hear the child say she wants to get mommy’s purse. I think the child gave Mom back her phone once inside the back of the police car which continued livestreaming until phone died. As Reynolds was handcuffed, and from the angle of the recording, the child may have been helping Mom stream it from the inside of the cop car. The police had no idea Reynold’s was livestreaming the event until a reporter asked them about it.

          When Reynolds exited the car (9:08pm) , Castile was still in it. We know that the officers were seen performing CPR on Castile before the ambulance arrived (before 9:17pm)

          There was no officer shown to be on the passenger side of the car during Reynold’s filming with her inside the car. I opine that Officer Kauser (who had been on Reynold’s side of the car and likely witnessed the shooting), removed the child from the car right after shots fired. The child’s car seat can be seen in the backseat on the passenger side (same side as Mom).

          This allowed Reynolds to get her phone and connect to Facebook Livestream and start filming at 9:06pm because Officer Kauser had taken the child out of the car.

          Livestream provides real time video to your facebook wall so her friends could watch this in real time and share it with others. This is why a crowd gathered so quickly.

          According to the Medical Examiner, Castile was wounded at 9:17pm. I opine this is likely the time the ambulance arrived on scene and gave official verification that he had been shot multiple times.
          https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/MNHENNE/2016/07/07/file_attachments/582665/2016-3828%2BCastile%252C%2BPhilando.pdf

          See where the police are performing CPR and look at where marker 6 (the gun) is on the road.

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          • Strike1 says:

            Has this been posted yet? You can see Diamond is out of car and on drivers side filming.
            Watch the very beginning of clip. The second officer can be seen on passenger side of car with his gun pointed at Philando.

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  10. McGuffin says:

    So Phil had a gun….on his lap. When the cop walked up.
    Who carries their gun on their lap while they drive?? At the ready.
    In my opinion this cop saved his own life.

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    • sundaybu says:

      If that is his gun, the facebook live stream will be inadvertently working in the officer’s favor I would think. If police “said” they recovered a gun, many would say that police planted the gun, kwim?

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      • Sandra says:

        Diamond has admitted that Philando had his gun on him. She said it wasn’t visible though.

        While she maintains that Castile informed Yanez of the fact that he was armed and licensed to carry a concealed weapon, Reynold’s said that the gun her boyfriend carried with him “everywhere” was “not visible to anyone” at the time of the shooting. “It was concealed and the officer took matters into his own hands,” Reynolds said. https://www.yahoo.com/news/diamond-reynolds-castiles-gun-absolutely-000000446.html

        According to the video still, it doesn’t look very concealed to me.

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    • Jett Black says:

      Just for perspective, I have my 1911 in my lap/between my legs, butt up, while driving sometimes. It’s not preferred, but sometimes it’s the way to go to have her at the ready, without a bunch of expensive holsters or car-mod-required brackets. If a cop starts to pull me over, it’s going to its preferred hiding place under the seat, away from my hands. I’ll disclose it when the LEO makes contact, as required by La law, but my hands will be empty and in the officer’s full view.

      I used to always get out of the car immediately on coming to a stop, so the LEO could see everything I did, but the last time I was pulled for a tail light, they got a little testy about that. Not sure why.

      Sounds like I get stopped a lot, huh? Not really, though I used to speed more than I should. Consider, to make speeding a significant benefit, you’d need to raise your average speed by about 30%–with a 70 mph limit, that means you’d need to do 91 consistently–that’s very fast in common highway traffic, even for an old street racer like me. On a legal hour trip, that would buy you an extra 18 minutes–instead of an hour, the trip would take 42 mins. I used to think it was worth it. It was, admittedly, fun. Then I realized how much stress and risk was involved, plus the money and time cost of a few tickets (over a period of several years). Objectively, unless it’s a serious emergency, speeding isn’t worth it. Critique my math, if you want–I’m an excellent driver, but no Rain Man in the math department.

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      • Non agenda says:

        “the last time I was pulled for a tail light, they got a little testy about that. Not sure why”

        I’m curious there was ever a time it was OK.? Now seems obvious, they are thinking you might flee, or . . .do something active. They want you confined. They are busy/distracted getting vehicle & plate report.

        I don’t drive much & a while back when I was stopped for rolling through a sign I actually got out of the car and, thinking it a courtesy, walked back towards the cruiser. Call me a naif. Can’t recall last previous. The officer got out & scolded me, “Don’t EVER do that.” I immediately realized my mistake in trying to be civilized.

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      • Tommy Frisco says:

        “Then I realized how much stress and risk was involved.”

        I got to that place too back in my late 20s. Apparently, guys like Philando Castile never got there.

        As in all these incidences, this has nothing to do with racism. It’s all about guys who have nothing to lose living on the wild side and resisting arrest. Irresponsible people who have never matured.

        Let’s have THAT discussion.

        BTW, my Dad gave me some good advice when I was a teenager. He said never pick a fight with an old man or someone who has nothing to lose. It took me a long time to realize the results were the same. They will both come down on you with COLD ANGER. Cops know this.

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      • ZurichMike says:

        Years ago I took a defensive driving course instead of getting a ticket and points against my license. One of the exercises we did in the course was calculating how much time we would save by speeding. The average car trip in the area was under 20 miles, and given the speed limits, we were asked to caculate for 30 mph over the speed limit. The time “savings” was generally measure in low single digit minutes — versus the stress, danger, and potential financial consequences of speeding. It was a real wake-up for me. I drive more quickly on highways if there is open space, but within speed limit on normal roads.

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      • aichawallaby says:

        Having people stay in the car seems to be what’s taught these days.

        I was on a city street and pulled out in front of a cop car. I was going to a restaurant so I pulled into the parking lot, parked, and walked about half way to the restaurant. The cop pulls into the parking, pulls, behind my car, puts the lights, and tells me to get back into the car. It was weird but after checking me out it was nothing.

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      • Jimmy Jack says:

        I stepped out of the car immediately once when I got pulled over in Atlanta outside of my house – had a gun drawn on me. Never again.

        Btw, I got pulled bc there was a plant hanging out of th back of my trunk which apparently is a violations. Us urban gardeners are ready menaces in the hood.

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    • Jimmy Jack says:

      I think we all know who carried a gun on their lap while they drive. Gangsters. Thugs. Criminals. And fools.

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  11. Qbinky says:

    Please explain the significance of the Ralph Lauren cap. Is there a photo somewhere where Castile is wearing one just like the guy robbing the store?

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    • Pugfrench says:

      Google “Philando Castile” I came up with 5 different Ralph Lauren shirts he wore. It seems to be his favored brand. I think the green jacket the robber is wearing is also Ralph Lauren.

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      • oldiadguy says:

        Sundance,

        I don’t do Facebook but that page is weird to me. It says “Remembering Philando Castile.” Who puts that on his Facebook page. Also, the background is a photo called Black Wall Street, not something I’ve seen on any of the gang related Facebook pages I’ve investigated/researched. With the exception of the August 15, 2015 photo of Castile wearing the dark blue Polo shirt, the rest of the photos appear to be a couple of years old.

        Another weird thing I noticed, when I checked the properties for the photos in an effort to date them, they all showed the following:

        Type: Microsoft Picture It! Document

        Microsoft Picture It was the predecessor to Digital Image Pro 10 which is the photo editing program I started using in my IAD and still use. Microsoft Picture It is pretty dated. Does Facebook use Microsoft Picture It as a default or has that Facebook page been edited.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Picture_It!

        Also, the pistol on the ground near the car looks like it could be a Glock, as the pistol on the ground has the Glock blockish appearance.

        The pistol used in the robbery looks like a Ruger Standard Pistol.

        Different guns. If the pistol on the ground is a Glock, it is definitely not a sub compact.

        Thoughts?

        Take care

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        • bertdilbert says:

          This is his sisters gun. Not sure how that would view on the ground. In case he did a gun swap to hide the other gun until things cooled off.

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  12. lorenetn says:

    I think this is a good thread to share this:

    All in not lost. We still have brave, articulate young people speaking out for truth.

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  13. J. Patriot says:

    Once Snopes criticizes you, you are close to the truth.
    Fight on, Sundance.

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  14. sundaybu says:

    Shoes off. I wonder how his shoes ended up off his feet, or do paramedics usually remove shooting victims’ shoes?
    Also, the gun in the street means (if PR’s gun and not officer’s) it wasn’t concealed, or police/ paramedics removed it from his person and left there.

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    • David says:

      that’s a good question. maybe the cops did not want the shoes to disappear seeing they look like the kind from the robbery.

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      • oldiadguy says:

        The shoes may have come off when Castile was being removed from the car. It is not that uncommon. The shoes don’t appeared to be laced and tied in the traditional manner, but in the new looser fashion. Both my nephews wear they shoes in this manner so they can just step out of them.

        The gun lying on the ground like that is weird to me. If the officer(s) saw the handgun on or near Castile, they should have taken control of it before removing him from the car. It is a safety issue. I don’t understand why it is lying on the ground outside the car.

        Take care

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        • sundance says:

          Gun is not laying out side the car in the pictures immediately taken. Gun shows up later. Go through this feed you’ll see what I’m talking about:

          Philando Castile - Falcon Heights Police Shooting

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          • sundance says:

            Click the ^ image ^ You’ll see. It will take you to photostream.

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            • oldiadguy says:

              Sundance,

              I saw the photos you linked, however, I do not know in what order the full set of photos go. There is no way investigators are going to insert a handgun into a crime scene, evidence 101. They can have a handgun at a scene and after photographing and documenting it’s location, seize and package it. After the weapon has been secured, then continue to process the remainder of the evidence.

              There is a story on why that handgun is laying there, I would love to know it.

              Take care

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              • sundance says:

                Look not at the handgun but at the forensics unit setting up to see the progression (timeline) and the emergence of the gun on the ground.

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                • rumpole2 says:

                  I makes more sense that the gun was on the ground, where it fell (or was placed) at the time of the incident…. then photographed and the bagged and removed from the scene

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                • rumpole2 says:

                  The metadata I see shows same upload time for all pics?

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                • oldiadguy says:

                  Sundance,

                  I don’t think those photos are arranged in any type of timeline. The photo you have at the top of this thread is not among the photos in that album, also check the EXIF data for the different photos. The photo were the two techs are at the rear of the car with the light and holding the evidence markers, appear to be searching the scene for evidence. That photo was taken at 1:01 AM per the EXIF data. The photos of the tech’s processing the scene were taken earlier, therefore I suspect the techs were doing a final check be wrapping up.

                  Here is another album by the photographer that contains photos only related to the Castile shooting.

                  https://www.flickr.com/photos/diversey/albums/72157667915114403/page1

                  In this album, the crime scene photos are mixed with the demonstrations that took place later.

                  This photo that shows the gun on the scene was taken at 12:34 AM per the EXIF data and is in the album I linked.

                  The Car - Philando Castile - Falcon Heights Police Shooting

                  The EXIF data shows the photos were ran Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 6.5 (Macintosh), probably to enhance them. Also, the images I checked did not have an image number that might have given an idea of the order they were taken.

                  Take Care

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    • nimrodman says:

      I’m not an EMT nor an LEO, but I’d speculate maybe they take the shoes off and leave them so they can be processed by crime scene investigators and bagged for later evidence (tread, fibers or other material adhered, etc.) …

      … rather than have the shoes take a journey to the ER on the gurney and be compromised by who knows what handling there.

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    • texasgypsy53 says:

      Or hers?

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  15. perpetuaofcarthage says:

    For me, the Ralph Lauren base ball cap in the robbery photo being the same as the one in a photo of Castile takes this from Castile looking enough like the guy in the robbery to justify the police stopping the car, to hey maybe Castile really was the one who did the robbery.

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  16. Qbinky says:

    Thank you Pugfrench. I get it now.

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  17. Sentient says:

    I assume that investigators have queried the clerk at the USA Store by now and showed him/her Philando’s picture. He/she might have confirmed it to be Philando (or not). I’ve stopped at that store a time or two. It’s kind of run-down. I haven’t stopped there for a couple of years (the pre-wrapped sandwiches looked pretty questionable), but my recollection is that the clerk was Arabic. Don’t know whether that would make them less likely to ID the robber – especially if its Philando.

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  18. sassymemphisbelle says:

    Sundance…you are more Sherlock Holmes in my opinion 🙂

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  19. Frank_O'Pinion says:

    Black Lies Massacre (BLM).

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  20. James F says:

    The Incident Report was released to media yesterday.

    So where is it?

    Why isn’t it being made available to the public or at least being widely reported by MSM?

    RAMSEY COUNTY, Minn. (KMSP) – The city attorney for St. Anthony, Minnesota released a documents Monday related to the July 6 shooting of Philando Castile during a traffic stop in Falcon Heights. The documents include personnel information for Officer Jeronimo Yanez and Officer Joseph Kauser, the incident report, firearms training documentation and the city’s agreement with the union.

    The incident report confirms an iPhone was collected as evidence, as well as two police dashcam videos. . A graphic video streamed live on Facebook by Castile’s girlfriend captured the aftermath of shooting from inside the car.
    http://www.fox9.com/news/172971119-story

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    • James F says:

      The St. Anthony website does not mention the documents released yesterday but today they posted how “transparent” this investigation will be.

      “St. Anthony is working hard to share as much information with you as we can in a way that is respectful of the investigation process and other restrictions. We remain committed to being a thoughtful, caring, accountable and transparent city as we all continue to work together.”

      http://www.ci.saint-anthony.mn.us

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      • oldiadguy says:

        Thanks,

        I had not seen those statements before. I just read those statements. Here are some exerts.

        July 7, 2016

        “During the course of the stop, the officer discharged his gun and the driver of the car later died at Hennepin County Medical Center as the result of the injuries.

        This is a tragic event and our communities are committed to working with the BCA and other agencies to fully investigate all aspects of this incident and will share as much information as possible as the process moves forward.”

        July 8, 2016

        “We are saddened by the shooting incident and the death of Mr. Castile. The heartfelt condolences of the entire Saint Anthony Village go out to his family and loved ones.

        As a city, state, and nation of laws – we will abide by those findings and take all steps to do everything possible to make sure an incident of this nature never happens again.”

        July 12, 2016

        “We share our sympathy and prayers with the Castile family and their loved ones as we all work together to move forward.

        We are working with the BCA and others to deal with issues related to the tragic events to make sure we are fully cooperating and sharing all the information needed to allow the process to move forward.”

        Take care

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    • Nettles18 says:

      I’m glad they have Reynold’s video. Facebook degrades the quality of photos and videos in uploading them to the site. With the original recording of Reynold’s video, police will have a nice sharp image of the black object in Castile’s lap.

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    • oldiadguy says:

      Don’t get your hopes up about the incident report. It will have just the basic facts of who, where, when and maybe what was seized. The supplemental reports will have all the interviews and details of the investigation.

      The fact they seized an (I assume Reynolds) IPhone, would indicate to me that she streamed the video live to Facebook page and wouldn’t have had time to do a voice over.

      The car cam videos are going to be interesting. While they won’t necessary show any actions by Castile, they might show how the officers reacted.

      Take care

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  21. burnett044 says:

    The location of the gun in the #6 …I wonder how it got there …removed by cop/ems?? or did it fall out of the car when they opened the driver door to get to him??
    could happen if it were on his lap as shown in photo..
    would love to see the entire video she took of the stop.

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    • Sandra says:

      Good question. I imagine that after the cop shot Philando he or another cop reached in to grab the gun and then put it on the ground. Does that seeem reasonable? I’m sure they would want to move it out of his reach ASAP, just to be safe.

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      • burnett044 says:

        the location of the gun before and after the shooting will make or break this case in my opinion…Sandra

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      • Blaze says:

        That could have been how the blood got on the door. It dripped off the gun when removed.

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      • Sargon says:

        Most likely after the Police Officer fired, his next action the moment he ascertain he is safe is to call in the shooting, and then open the door, get the (now shot) suspect out, lay him on the ground, administer first aid, and in the process, the gun fell out.

        His partner would in the mean time be getting Lavish out and searching her for arms, cuffing her, and taking her to the police car.

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      • oldiadguy says:

        Protocol would dictate that a firearm would be seized and secured. If they just wanted to move it out of his reach, they could have set it on the top of the car. Castile was treated by the medics where that handgun was laying as you can see the medical waste. I don’t understand what the pistol is doing there.

        Take care

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    • coeurdaleneman says:

      Let’s put it this way: had the gun been on the seat beside Philando, then it likely would have remained on the seat as he was taken out of the vehicle. I doubt that the cop would have removed it and laid it on the pavement.

      The odds say that it was on his lap or on his person somehow else.

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      • burnett044 says:

        I agree

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      • David says:

        C’mon! There is also a pair of shoes on the ground!

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      • oldiadguy says:

        coeurdaleneman

        I’m starting to think that the pistol was concealed on his person and the responding officers did not see it when they checked Castile before removing him from the car. After removing him from the car and while ascertaining his injuries, they located the pistol, removed it from where ever it was and laid it aside as they initiated CPR. That would be a legitimate reason for the pistol to be on the ground where we saw it in the photo.

        What I find interesting about this “investigation,” is that everyone seems to be trying to find dirt on Castile and Reynolds and ignoring the evidence that is already out in public.

        Listen to the radio tape, especially to what the officers say and their tone of voice.

        Listen to Reynold’s video and pay attention to the officers statements and tone of voice.

        Look at the statements by Officer Yanez’s attorney. I have been involved in a great many officer involved shooting investigations and I can not recall a single instance where the officer’s attorney did not defend his client’s actions. Yanez’s attorney has repeatedly stated the shooting occurred due to the “presence” of the gun and Castile’s motions. That is a weird statement. Then add his additional statements offering sympathy to Castile’s family and calling the incident a tragedy. Again, I can not recall hearing a statement like that from an officer’s attorney for a good self defense shooting.

        Then look at the press releases from Officer Yanez’s employer that I listed elsewhere in the thread.

        https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/07/12/higher-resolution-images-show-philando-castile-handgun-at-scene-of-shooting/comment-page-1/#comment-2684757

        “As a city, state, and nation of laws – we will abide by those findings and take all steps to do everything possible to make sure an incident of this nature never happens again.”

        That is not a very comforting statement. People have to remember that the authorities already have both the informal and formal interviews of Officer Yanez and his partner. They have had the opportunity to see the dash cam videos. They have had access to the all the radio transmissions relative to this incident. They know what the physical evidence is and what the statements are of the officers who responded to the call for shots fired.

        Yet with access to all this evidence, Officer Yanez’s attorney made the statements he made and the village that employed Yanez issued those press releases. There is a reason they made the statements they made and everyone seems to want to turn their head away from what those statements may mean.

        It is a shame.

        Take care

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  22. Chip Bennett says:

    WRT the GotNews claims: if there was eyewitness or surveillance video evidence of a getaway car, wouldn’t that information have been included in the BOLO? I’m having a hard time believing that the only source for the claim that Reynolds’ car matched an alleged getaway car description is Charles Johnson’s anonymous police department source.

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  23. Xballer52 says:

    I would be careful to speculate that the gun on the ground is indicative of Philando Castile pointing it at the officer. Often times when rescue works on an individual, clothes and property are taken off of the person and left on scene to more easily enable rescue units to perform their functions.
    The items are then left industurbed for processing unless exigent circumstances dictate otherwise.

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  24. Oldskool says:

    Of course Philando did everything described, but it doesn’t matter now it’s too late. The only State official I know of that has said anything is the Governor who immediately blamed the Cops. All the wonderful info reported here by SD has had no mention on the MSM. The mother is filing a civil claim and Obama calls her today. Once again, “we” lose because of the optics of delay, since now the case will be dismissed by the public as a coverup by law enforcement.

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  25. ezpz says:

    The left leaning site Mediaite has something about this media lie>narrative in their opinion section:

    Shocker! It Looks Like the Media May Have Bought a False Narrative in Philando Castile Shooting

    by John Ziegler | 5:02 pm, July 11th, 2016

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/shocker-it-looks-like-the-media-may-have-bought-a-false-narrative-in-philando-castile-shooting/

    CTH is mentioned several times in the comments section – in the context of Snopes using an article from here and then deeming it false.

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    • ezpz says:

      Here’s the paragraph in which Ziegler hyperlinks the Snopes reference (which uses a CTH article) as well as offering his commentary on it:

      One of the best examples of this is the “fact check” website “Snopes,” which, in its typically arrogant and liberal fashion, has definitely declared these “rumors” about Castile to be “false,” while actually doing a pretty good job of establishing that they might actually be true (while also ignoring the significance of what we now know was in the police officer’s mindset). A close reading of their conclusions could best be summed up by saying: “We want this story to be false, so, because it hasn’t yet be proven 100% true by liberal media sources with no incentive to do so, it must be false.”

      http://www.mediaite.com/online/shocker-it-looks-like-the-media-may-have-bought-a-false-narrative-in-philando-castile-shooting/

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    • AdamSelene says:

      Of course. Snopes created a strawman. All over these internets I have not seen anyone claim Castile was wanted for armed robbery. Only that he was stopped as matching the description of an armed robber. So snopes makes up the “wanted for armed robbery” claim and then “debunks” it, nodding to the truth, “stopped matching the description of an armed robber.”

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      • ezpz says:

        Exactly!

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      • 1stgoblyn says:

        Worse than that…they claimed Sundance wrote that he was WANTED for armed robbery and then called him a liar.

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      • nimrodman says:

        AdamSelene said: “Of course. Snopes created a strawman.”

        Exactly. it’s what they do.

        I caught them in a strawman in 2014 on the illegal immigration / disease epidemic issue of the Enterovirus D68 (EV-D68) that had produced a rash of outbreaks (1,000 or so cases) with some fatalities around the US.

        The question Snopes set out to debunk was
        “Was the Enterovirus (D68) outbreak caused by an influx of immigrant children?”.

        They judged “probably false” by diverting onto this train of false reasoning:

        .- That the virus was detected in the US as long ago as 1962
        .- That the particular strain was detected as long ago as 1987

        “I think that this really sort of argues against the fact that this is a new virus introduced by anybody,” [expert] Wells said.

        They completely disregarded that only a handful of cases had ever been detected in the US until the massive border rush of 2014.

        So they diverted onto a strawman about when the virus was first detected or introduced rather than addressing the explosive outbreak during a mass illegal-immigration episode that was the subject of the original question.

        Blatant diversion by strawman. Typical Marxist tactic with predictable Marxist result.

        http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/enterovirus.asp

        https://theconservativetreehouse.com/category/enterovirus-ev-d68/

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    • TheLastDemocrat says:

      wow! break the fourth wall!

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  26. John Galt says:

    From store robbery article: “St. Anthony police and the Ramsey County Crime Lab are investigating.”

    Fingerprints?

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  27. Moishe Pipik says:

    By now the Police certainly know if Castile was in fact the armed robber. Have they explicitly declared him as not involved in the robbery?

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    • rumpole2 says:

      I for one am glad the the police/prosecutors are NOT conducting this investigation in the media. That is a defense/BLM tactic that always perpetuates false information.
      It is NOT the prosecutions fault that the MSM and lynch mob are running with a false narrative

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      • palafox says:

        Regarding the false narrative:

        That’s exactly why Lavish was making the media rounds. She and other “victims” need to spread their story far and wide — it’s how their narrative is driven into the masses. Makes it much easier to be skeptical of later contradictory information — in this case, the truth — when you have a firm narrative set in your mind.

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    • oldiadguy says:

      Moishe Pipik

      I posted up thread some of the press releases from Saint Anthony Village. I don’t like where the investigation is leading if I’m reading the press releases correctly.

      http://www.ci.saint-anthony.mn.us/

      Nothing about Castile being identified as the robber, however, the village is expressing a lot of sympathy to Castile’s family and friends and calling it a tragic event and going to
      make sure an incident of this nature never happens again. Read the press releases and I think you will see where this is going.

      Take care

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  28. Sargon says:

    Anyone with biometrics software that can run a match of the EARS of the robbery suspect #1 and #2 against Philando Castile’s photos that clearly show his ears?

    Ears are known to be very distinctively shaped and extremely accurate in identification when they match.

    There is a whole literature on ears in biometrics and how to use them for positive ID.

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  29. safetyfirst says:

    Where is the holster? Police should be quick to make public if or if not a holster was found and if he had a valid permit on him.

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  30. Pacheco says:

    The glasses in the photo of the robber look like sun glasses to me.

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    • Serpentor says:

      Transition lenses?

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    • truthseekerr says:

      yea the white sides look similar though. Are there any other video stills that show they are sunglasses?

      The shoes both have the light/white colored bases too.

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      • Pugfrench says:

        I think the sides of both of the glasses are actually gold, not white. I’m pretty sure that Castile’s are gold on the side. It’s tougher to tell about the robber pic

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    • The lenses appear to be dark. I thought of transition also, though the photos with the glasses on with the child in his arm appear to be outside and they have not darkened. The other possibility is they are clip ons. They shape looks bigger than the frame in the convenience store frame grab. To low of resolution to make a call imo.

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    • Janie M. says:

      Pacheco, years ago, I purchased a pair of Kenneth Cole metal framed eyeglasses and was also able to purchase the matching metal frame sunglasses that clipped onto the frame surrounding the lenses. If you lost the clip-on, far cheaper to replace it than a pair of prescription sunglasses. This is exactly what the clip on looks like- hooked clip (2 for each lens) is at the top and near the bottom of each lens:

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    • oldiadguy says:

      I believe they are. When I ran them to my photo editor, they showed up as the same or similar color as the suspect’s hair. The lens are very dark.

      Take care

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  31. More air for the rest of us and I’ll cross my fingers for the cops.

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  32. Wayne says:

    President Obama was here in Dallas today and instead of eulogizing our Police Officers he had the black nerve to bring up this suspect Castile’s name. I could see DPD Officers cringing and wanting to leave, but anyone that did this would have lost their job I am certain. When all of the truth comes out I would like to see our Black President apologize publicly and then get his #1 Loretta Lynch to start prosecuting some of these ________ that are doing America wrong. In case it does not get on your local news. A Waxahatchie gun store was broken into last night by 11 kids and 27 rifles and 14 handguns were stolen. In the video I am seeing on TV you can tell 2 kids are white. The pickup used was stolen and I drove by the shop today and the whole side of the store was smashed in. It looks like they may have to demolish the building. This is about 30 miles from Dallas and this city has many people living there and working in Dallas. Just thought people might like to know.

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    • TheLastDemocrat says:

      was this the one outside waxahachie, or was there another? in the waxahachie, i heard far fewer firearms altogether stolen.

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    • JeremyR says:

      Bath House Barty apologize? Lynchmob prosecute these scum? This aint lalaland, this is the Obama-nation of desolation. You must have missed it, but you have now entered the twilight zone. Good is bad, criminals are honest. GOD is banned, satanic gods are encouraged. Education isn’t.
      Keep every one updated on the mass theft. Those weapons are bound for some where bad. The reports I’ve seen said 7 jackals and eleven guns.

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  33. Jett Black says:

    Pistol in store surveillance photo is almost certainly not the same as the one on the ground by the car. The one in the robbery pic looks like a “Buckmark” or Ruger 22/45 or similar. The one on the ground appears to have a “beavertail” grip, similar to a 1911, Sig, or recent Glock (my guess is a single-stack mag Glock). I sure hope LE gets the truth out sooner rather than later.

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    • TheLastDemocrat says:

      I was just about to comment on that – the robbery gun looks like a 22lr for target, and the one on the ground looks like a typical 9mm semi.

      Also, the one on the ground seems to have night sights – target pistols don’t often have night sights. They can, but not very common.

      However – that final 2.5 inches of the gun in the robbery picture is weird.
      Might the barrel be normal length, and there be some optical illusion – something in the background that is almost lined up with barrel, making it seem like barrel is straight?

      Plus, it looks pretty small – certainly not a 45acp. But it is even odd for a target 22lr.

      A pellet gun?

      Last time I had something that odd on a Ruger, they fixed it no charge.

      The firearm on the ground – sure looks like a 1911. This guy may get laughed out of the ‘hood for not having a Hi-Point.

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      • Jett Black says:

        Well, at least if I’m way out in left field, I’ve got company. Was wondering exactly the same things about the pistol’s barrel in the store pic–either perspective is way off and it’s one of the .22s that has a narrower barrel as it extends out from the frame. I thought 1911 first, too, b/c of the beavertail, but the rest of the backstrap doesn’t look to me like the 1911 grip safety. Recent Glocks have that kind of beavertail “enhancement” on the grip. It looks narrow, which is the reason I mentioned a single stack mag.

        I used irfanview to resize/resample both pics up to 1920×1080 @ 900 dpi–much easier to see details, though still limited by the quality and perspective of the web-posted “originals.” Really need the official words on these issues.

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      • mariner says:

        “Also, the one on the ground seems to have night sights – target pistols don’t often have night sights. They can, but not very common.”

        I have “one or two” Glocks, and the pistol appears to me to be a Glock, with standard white sights (not night sights).

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      • JeremyR says:

        Old German Lugers had the tapered barrel, though I doubt that is what was used. A Ruger Standard is certainly a possibility, and the Mk2 and Mk3 appear similar. They are not cheap guns either though, but then again five finger discounts make every thing possible.

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      • craig swanson says:

        If you look at the robbery picture and hold down your keyboard “control” button and then the “+” sign the picture will get as large as you want. It will look grainy but I think you are right. The last 2.5 inches of the barrel is some other object on the floor. It does not line up with the main gun barrel.

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      • Chewbarkah says:

        My entry in the robbery handgun derby: Ruger Mark III with long bull barrel. A lighting or camera anomaly makes it appear as if the barrel becomes bizarrely narrow and even a little bent, from just beyond the trigger guard to the muzzle. Note the very black streak in the pic just below this “thin” barrel section. That is the lower half of the bull barrel in shadow. In any event, no way it’s the gun on the ground by the car.

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        • mariner says:

          Agreed.

          I don’t think the robber’s eyeglass arm looks like Castile’s either. Castile’s is a single gold finish all the way from the frame back to the ear. The robber’s has at least two-toned finish.

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        • rokshox says:

          If you enlarge the photo you can clearly see that the “extension” of the barrel is the handle of some object sitting on the bottom shelf of the storage counter behind the main counter.

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    • David says:

      And what if he in fact did the robbery and used a different gun?

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      • Jimmy Jack says:

        That’s my thought. A gun to dump of you use it to shoot a person but don”t want to get caught. Keep the better gun for everyday carry.

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  34. wmingpt says:

    What would explain the blood splatter on the lower part of the door?

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    • Nettles18 says:

      It’s not blood splatter, it’s rust and dirt.

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      • David says:

        uh look higher by the door handle

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        • Nettles18 says:

          Yes there are 3 blood stains on the upper part of the door. wymingpt asked about the lower part of the door, that’s rust and dirt.

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        • JeremyR says:

          The human body is under pressure. inject an object at a high rate of speed, and blood tends to be ejected in various patterns. The blood on the door might be simple blood spatter from the projectile impact.
          Police have blood spatter experts who can study a crime scene, and with a few known points, place objects in their proper locations that have been moved or removed. There have been several cases where a person was shot in a manner meant to appear to be suicide, but voids in the blood spatter confirmed the presence and general size of the person who was present.
          I would have expected to see more blood outside the vehicle, not less.

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  35. McGruff says:

    Is there a higher quality image of suspect #2’s right hand in the convenience store? There appears to be a dark shade on his wrist that could possibly match the thin bracelet visible on Castile’s right wrist in the “gun”photo. I doubt that bracelet comes off very frequently.

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    • nimrodman says:

      I looked at that question hard, but using only the one photo we’ve all seen here.

      My opinion was that I thought I could see a faint band of some sort around the robber’s wrist but, if so, it looks to be a half-inch or so wide and not a good match for the very narrow and darker band around Castile’s wrist in the bloody-in-the-car-seat photo.

      Just my opinion, ymmv

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      • McGruff says:

        I agree that the car image version is thin, but if you zoom in close enough that it begins to get blurry (like in the suspect 2 photo) it begins to appear wider. This could be a similar illusion when trying to see the suspect 2 image close enough to make it out.

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  36. lepanto says:

    I presume that the lawyers for Diamond / Lavish are watching this website. (Remember Bernie de la Rionda?).
    As the evidence accumulates, and as it becomes clearer how much Diamond / Lavish has known from the start, they must be getting a little nervous about maintaining the initial “narrative”.
    At what point will they advise their client to stop talking to the media?

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  37. trumpedinillinois says:

    Unbelievably, I was watching the 5 o’clock news in the Chicago viewing area and they put up a graphic claiming that he was MISTAKENLY identified as the suspect in the robbery. WTF!?

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    • John Galt says:

      The cop thought he was a suspect, so he was 100% confirmed as a suspect. Whether or not he was the perp is apparently an open question.

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    • Non agenda says:

      2 thoughts:
      1. MSM-type now thinking, How Do We Get Out of This? Or maybe make lemonade? Double down. If he’s not the perp, “mistake execution”. As great a story as the original! We’ve already sold a Lie, nothing to lose!
      +Dayton’s situation guarantees, he won’t let himself be exposed for many months, at least. He can’t control the investigation, but he can delay the result.
      2. Public audience has no clue what “suspect” means. It sounds like an official thing, what a D.A. or HQ should determine. As JG has pointed out, it’s all about what’s reasonable to an individual cop. What small % of people understand or will accept this?

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    • Concerned says:

      In order to say that, the news station would need to know that Castile definitely was not one of the robbers. I can’t imagine how they know that yet.

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  38. Pugfrench says:

    Since it is almost impossible to make out facial features (wide set nose) of the robber with the pics available online there must be clearerer shots of the man’s face, right? Why wouldn’t they have already released those pics immediately following the robbery?

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    • nimrodman says:

      Why would there be “clearer shots” of the robber’s face somewhere?

      The photos we’ve seen here look to be from security camera footage. Maybe that’s all there is. There are only so many security cams in a given store.

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    • Curry Worsham says:

      Could have been from the description provided by the clerk. As in: “He had a wide set nose”. But how did Officer Yanez see his nose while following behind him? Perhaps he observed him earlier at a store or gas pump?

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  39. aichawallaby says:

    But Lavish/Diamond told us all that the gun never, never, ever was out. How did it end up on the ground? /sarc

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    • David says:

      From the reaction of the cop in her own video, the cop seems sincere and regrettable, and strongly insinuates that he, the cop, saw the gun.

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      • aichawallaby says:

        I also think the cop at the passenger side’s (Diamond’s side) was in a pretty good position to see the gun resting on Castile’s left thigh.

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        • georgiafl says:

          Oh, she knew the gun was there all right.

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        • nimrodman says:

          “I also think the cop at the passenger side’s (Diamond’s side) was in a pretty good position to see the gun resting on Castile’s left thigh.”

          Maybe, maybe not. From a standing position, maybe his tactical responsibility is to secure his side of the car by looking down into the passenger’s lap to ensure no weapon is being drawn on that side of the car.

          Rather than crouching down so his eyesight clears the roof of the car so he can peer over to the driver’s lap.

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    • Concerned says:

      I don’t think she said it wasn’t out, she said it wasn’t visible.

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  40. lo says:

    The police department had to know this information immediately, so why didn’t they step up and speak the truth about the stop? It makes me think there are some cops in cahoots with this race baiting agenda.

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    • AmyB says:

      Well, when the governor has already come out with an official opinion, I’d expect that you’d want to be very careful with evidence to the contrary. Those might not be so much in cahoots with the race baitors as trying to protect the governor from embarrassment.

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    • deqwik2 says:

      It’s a small community type police dept. & probably have never had anything like this happen before. Their website says they have 23 officers & 3 civilians that work for them. I imagine they were not prepared for the media onslaught. Since they turned the case over to the BCA they are probably sitting back & letting BCA take charge.

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  41. notime says:

    Her story in the livestream have been suspect from the beginning. They simply don’t ring true. Thanks, Sundance, for chasing down the facts.

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  42. Abster says:

    What happens to the ghetto jackpot.

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  43. James F says:

    Lavish Diamond let some truth slip out.

    At about 6:28 her islamic handler states how the required MN carry course teaches that when pulled over, you always tell the officer you have a permit and gun right away.

    As he is speaking, Lavish has a look on her face like “oh crap, Phil did not do that at all” and then admits he did not tell the officer he had a permit and gun becasie the officer “did not give them the opportunity.”

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  44. aichawallaby says:

    I saw a dead trees paper today where cop’s lawyer said there will be information coming out “in a couple of days.” Thursday-Friday? Can’t find any online version.

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  45. Good Find she is such a fraud.

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  46. booger71 says:

    Check out a few inches to the right of the rear door handle. Looks to me the car has been near or in a gun fight before.

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    • Swampfox says:

      Possibly. I do think the suspect’s shoes look casual, preppy. They do not look like the more athletic shoes next to the vehicle IMO. I know there has been some speculation they are the same pair of shoes.

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  47. AmyB says:

    The eye glasses are unusual. I can only find one pair that matches his glasses, but they are made by Versace and the name is imprinted on the arm, which doesn’t seem to be the case here. Also, it looks like the sunglasses are not the same. The arm on the regular glasses is the same.color(gold?) down its entire length, it appears, whereas the arm on the sunglasses seem to change to black around the ear. Still, because the narrow, light colored arm on both the glasses and sunglasses seem to be uncommon, it seems very coincidental that two different people involved in this situation owned them.

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    • lorac says:

      You might look on Polo website to see if they sell glasses. These guys appear to want to wear EVERY thing Polo, so perhaps the glasses, too…? (but I have no idea if Polo sells glasses)……

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