April 30th – 2016 Presidential Election – Open Discussion

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1,274 Responses to April 30th – 2016 Presidential Election – Open Discussion

  1. Martin says:

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  2. clash108 says:

    I’ve been searching around to find an accurate poll analysis, and this guy seems to be the most accurate (more accurate than 538). http://election.princeton.edu/2016/04/28/indiana-may-not-matter-any-more/

    This guy is a lib, but he has been pretty spot on so far. In the link, he comes to the conclusion that Trump could lose Indiana and would still have a 97% chance of getting the required delegates. ATM, he has Trump up 7 pts in Indiana. Here’s hoping he’s right.

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    • WeThePeople2016 says:

      My husband, who is a stats guy, follows Sam Wang as well. Wang has Trump winning Indiana by 7 pts. Wang has been spot on so far.

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    • Concerned says:

      The nice thing is that Indiana distributes delegates per congressional district as well as statewide. So Trump is certainly going to walk away with some delegates. But it wouldn’t be nice if he could win the statewide vote because that’s 27 delegates right there.

      Liked by 6 people

    • Shadrach says:

      He might be a lib, but he’s a statistician first. He does good work.

      Liked by 3 people

      • ladypenquin says:

        That’s all we ever asked from people of the Left, or for the Left, is to be honest in their science, math, philosophy, etc. vs dishonest – to push an agenda. I have much more respect for someone who I fundamentally disagree if their honest about their beliefs, instead of lying. Big difference. Cheating and winning isn’t really winning, but it certainly is cheating. Too many Lefties have to cheat, especially to get elected, because if they told the truth then the people would send them packing.

        Turns out the same principle can be applied to the folks on the Right as well. If one is dishonest about all those so-called conservatives principles, spouting them from a soapbox, but doing nothing to keep them in the culture, then one is no different from the people on the Left who disguise their beliefs.

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    • Karmaisabitch says:

      He wrong, if a libersl says 7 points Trump must be up 14.

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  3. American Dream 12 says:

    Just received that email – The Art of The Deal!

    Subject: Fwd: THE ART OF THE DEAL

    <em>    When Trump purchased and rebuilt Mar-A-Lago, the grand mansion and estate in Palm Beach,  Florida, he got into a dispute with the city fathers who are well known for being strict on zoning regulations.
        Trump put up a 50-foot flag pole even though 30 feet is the maximum allowed to not be overly patriotic and offend other nationalities.
        The city imposed a $1,000 per day fine while Trump and city officials argued back and forth. Finally, when the fine had reached a total of $120,000 Trump proposed a solution. 
        He would donate that amount to veteran's organizations,  would move the flag to a different spot in front of the mansion, and would only use a 30 foot flagpole.
        The city agreed.
         So Trump brought in the company that does his golf course construction, <span style="color:red;">had them build a 20-foot high grassy hill</span>, and put the 30-foot flag pole on top of that.
        Now, would you rather have Trump negotiating an Iranian deal, or any deal, or would you rather have
        Hillary....What Difference Does It Make? 
        Just sayin'...</em>

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    • American Dream 12 says:

      Sorry for the mess. Let’s try again:

      When Trump purchased and rebuilt Mar-A-Lago, the grand mansion and estate in Palm Beach, Florida, he got into a dispute with the city fathers who are well known for being strict on zoning regulations.

      Trump put up a 50-foot flag pole even though 30 feet is the maximum allowed to not be overly patriotic and offend other nationalities.
      The city imposed a $1,000 per day fine while Trump and city officials argued back and forth. Finally, when the fine had reached a total of $120,000 Trump proposed a solution. 
      He would donate that amount to veteran's organizations,  would move the flag to a different spot in front of the mansion, and would only use a 30 foot flagpole.
      The city agreed.
       So Trump brought in the company that does his golf course construction, had them build a 20-foot high grassy hill, and put the 30-foot flag pole on top of that.
      Now, would you rather have Trump negotiating an Iranian deal, or any deal, or would you rather have
      Hillary....What Difference Does It Make? 
      Just sayin'...

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  4. majorstar says:

    MSN has posted a NYT article gaslighting about VPs for Trump. The article is titled “Run on a Ticket With Donald Trump? No, Thanks, Many Republicans Say.” I won’t even dignify it by listing the Republicans they asked; perhaps you can guess. It’s just so full of s…, well bull.


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  5. Howie says:

    Nuff said

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    • wyntre says:

      Howie, I tried my best to follow this – but that hockey puck being so tiny made it really hard. And I also didn’t get what everyone was cheering about. Did the hockey puck make it through in the final second?


      (As you can see sports and I are not well -acquainted)i


      • BakoCarl says:

        Miracle on Ice refers to a medal-round men’s ice hockey game during the 1980 Winter Olympics. The United States amateur team defeated the almost professional Soviet Union team, which had won the gold medal in six of the seven previous Olympic games. The USA team went on to win the gold medal.
        And, yes, the puck made it through.

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        • BakoCarl says:

          Sorry. I lied. At the very end of the game, the Soviets were trying to tie a one goal lead by the U.S. At the end of the game, the U.S. blocked all shots on goal by the Soviets.
          The U.S. had to defend the lead for about the last 10 minutes.

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        • MG says:

          The USA team was made up of a lot of younger college age kids. I was very close to Bob Suter, a member of that team that passed away far too early. Bob coached my son for many years and I was the manager for his hockey teams for several years prior to his passing. Bob was extremely patriotic, generous, humble and caring. There are many stories…….. It was a great victory that allowed the USA team to go on and capture the Gold Medal and created a wave of American pride.

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  6. fred5678 says:

    I wish California police would get serious about protecting the next POTUS and his supporters, as German police did protecting an anti-mass immigration party conference — they used water cannon to break up crowds and arrested 400.


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    • There is some thing wrong with the police in California; they allow illegal aliens to threaten and force a major party presidential candidate into a back door entrance…they watch illegal aliens riot…very strange…and then use military force against black American citizens…you would think the blacks would speak up about this….illegals have more rights than blacks..and a white potus candidate…something wrong there in California…I would think the residents would speak up and find out what is going on with their police force.

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  7. kingjulianx says:

    I’m really starting to wonder why there are no reputable polls released lately, like fox,cnn, usa ,emerson,today? I smell someone hiding the truth!

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  9. PremAmerica says:

    I have to say this. In the primary season so far many have endorsed and shared the stage with Donald Trump.

    Of all of them, the ONLY person whose cheers are louder than The Donald himself is The General, Bobby Knight.

    Indiana absolutely loves this man. And why not!

    (Okay. Okay. I admit. I’m watching the Trump Townhall re-run with Greta on FOX again.)

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    • Watch judge Jeanine tonite at 8 eastern. She has Bobby Knight as her guest!

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      • PremAmerica says:

        I watched. He was awesome. Such a passionate advocate for Trump. That’s the sort of endorsement you want.


        • jello333 says:

          And I think a couple times now he’s said he couldn’t care less about the Democratic party OR the Republican party, and that’s part of the reason he likes Trump. That’s a big deal.


          • judyw says:

            I heard that, too Jello. Reminded me of a bumper sticker I saw today in a parking lot on an old pretty beat-up car with more stickers than you could imagine but this one stood out for some reason to me as I was about to open my car door. “I am not a Democrat. I am not a Republican. I am an American. There is a difference.” 🙂

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  10. Stupid-ass lying and biased Indianapolis Star is running with that fake poll and trying to convince voters that Cruz has it made in the state of Indiana. No mention of other polls where Trump is leading and no mention that the poll mentioned is a huge outlier. My friends in the Indy area are telling me that the Indianapolis Star is out to get Trump and now I believe it. Hope this doesn’t confuse the voters. The comments section has plenty of Trump supporters setting the record straight but I doubt everyone reads the comments. Very frustrating.

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  11. Katie says:

    I hope this isn’t duplicating a previous post. Here’s another great article about who Donald Trump is and his life journey from who he was as a child to who he is today. My respect and appreciation for him just keeps growing.


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  12. Howie says:

    Save the USA…Renew CCA! Make America Great Again….I like Ike and Trump

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  13. Hillary may be indicted! There is hope!

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  14. Roger Stone predicts that Trump will win the state of Indiana. He commented on Breitbart that the Indiana establishment is doing everything to ultimately steal delegates from Trump in Indiana but he believes Trump will win with the voters. Don’t forget…Stone was honest and predicted a loss in Wisconsin, yet he sees a path to victory in the hoosier state. Saw this on Breitbart. Don’t want to link because I hate that site.

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  15. duchess01 says:

    At Last, America First!
    Posted 04/30/2016 11:44 am by PatriotRising


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  16. CO Gal says:

    Just visited Indiana Facebook page for Donald Trump. Saw a gal posting a link to the false charges against Mr. Trump along with a nasty comment. Messaged the administrator and she was blocked immediately.

    Liked by 8 people

  17. LULU says:

    Oregon going for Trump 43% to Cruz’s 26% and Kasich’s 17%. New poll:

    Donald Trump overcomes ´woman card’ backlash to crush competition in new Oregon poll


    Poll in pdf:

    Click to access Hoffman_0416_Survey_Report_iapoi3.pdf

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  18. rumpole2 says:

    LIVE Stream: 2016 White House Correspondents’ Dinner – Red Carpet + Main Event (4-30-16)

    I see Mr and Mrs Bernie, Eric Trump, Donald Trump(jnr), Crazy Megyn, etc…..

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  19. pam says:



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  20. Martin says:

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  21. duchess01 says:

    Nothing you do or say is funny, ‘Crooked Clinton’ – unlike you, Trump appeals to all classes –

    Hypocrite Hillary Criticizes Trump For His ‘Big Jet’


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  22. duchess01 says:

    10 countries Hillary Clinton has destroyed. Imagine this person as President.
    Submitted by IWB, on April 30th, 2016


    Liked by 4 people

  23. ZZZ says:

    Perot remained in the public eye after the election and championed opposition to the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), urging voters to listen for the “giant sucking sound” of American jobs heading south to Mexico should NAFTA be ratified.


    This was 30 years ago…the damage done is almost irreparable.
    Dear God please protect, guide, and lead Donald Trump.

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  24. WeThePeople2016 says:

    Gallup: Ted Cruz Now Most Unfavorable Candidate – Down 16 Points to Trump


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  25. Watch this video!

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  26. SeekerOfTruth says:

    these charts from Wall Street for your amusement on this slow news day – Saturday. Wall Street people chart and bet on everything. Also, have you noticed much of the news cycles are all based on Trump – hate, love, his positions and his issues he has raised. If Trump is quiet, news is quieter – boring. Trump news sells.

    So on this rare Trump quiet day as he plots his next moves and prepares his next policy presentations – Enjoy

    chart of Odds of Trump winning nomination

    chart of Odds of a brokered convention

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    • SeekerOfTruth says:

      notice 2 weeks before NY vote April 19 Wall street was already moving to Trump anticipating. And after NY vote April 19, brokered convention dropped down with volume and after NE states April 26 another bang down.

      If Trump wins Indiana, my guess Trump win goes above 90% and brokered convention goes to 10% or below. good odds to force Unite behind Trump narrative to stop Hillary.

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  27. sandraopines says:

    More delegate shenanigans. SIGH

    Liked by 8 people

    • sandraopines says:

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    • Timmy-the-Ute says:

      Does anyone know what happen in VA today. Cruz got 10 of 13 at-large delegates at the State convention. Cruz got less than 1/3rd of the popular vote and lost to Trump in the Primary and he gets over 3/4th of the at-large delegates. This has nothing to do with ground game by Cruz. This is the Republican party ignoring the voters. This is Romney and #NeverTrump.

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      • NoOneButTrump says:

        My dad was a delegate to that convention, voting on the delegates to the national convention. Basically, the Cruz supporters narrowly won, approving the first slate of delegates proposed by the nominating committee. It was all insider controlled, and although that first slate was supposed to be balanced, they were Cruz heavy. Most of the delegates wouldn’t even admit who they were supporting. Despite that, the Cruz people all voted for that first slate, and the Trump people voted against it. My dad says it really was close.

        I’m trusting that Trump expected this and always knew he had to win on the first ballot. What he has done, which is huge, is wake us all up to the slimy way our party elects delegates. We have to get involved starting now to be better prepared in future elections. We can’t be lazy and trusting anymore.


  28. NHVoter says:

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  29. duchess01 says:

    April 28, 2016

    Trump Destroys Establishment, Slams Globalism While Sanders May Have Just Doomed Democrats In November


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  30. rumpole2 says:

    Lyin’ Ted LOST.

    He is pretending (lying) that he is a CLOSE second… and he is NOT.

    IF Trump was to not make 1237 and Lyin’ Ted was himself just behind Trump.. then this “Contested Convention” BS might make some sense.

    Lyin Ted is a total Fail. Even with all his cheating, I doubt he will amass 25% (619) of delegates. He has absolutely NO MANDATE from voters.. or even GOPe connivers to claim the nomination.. none.
    He needs to QUIT!

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    • patrickhenryrevisited says:

      Neither lyin’ ted, nor ‘make America drowsy again’ john will quit until Trump hits the 1237 mark.
      They’ll keep on fleecing donors in the meantime.

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      • rumpole2 says:

        Lyin’ Ted has already signaled that HE doesn’t accept all Trump’s delegates (eg from PA) Lyin’ Ted is gonna make an A$$ of himself and stomp his feet and refuse to go.. even when Trump does reach 1237.

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        • patrickhenryrevisited says:

          No doubt cruz would like to ride it out regardless of the 1237.
          But I don’t believe the RNC would let him at that point.
          They will use him until then.
          But it’s unlikely they would risk the consequences of supporting him once Trump secures 1237, or more.


  31. Backspin says:

    White House correspondents dinner ? — ” Luke …. nowhere will you find a more wretched hive of SCUM and VILLANY .”
    Explains the slow news day , on the eve of MAY DAY ….cough, Iraq green zone overrun…

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  32. Margaret-Ann says:

    If anyone finds the “Obama Bloopers” on YT that CNN just showed, prior to Obama’s WHCD speech … please post the link. OMG .. too funny.

    Liked by 1 person

    • jello333 says:

      That’s good, but I have one minor gripe about Donald when it comes to this part:

      “Trump also proposed strengthening and expanding laws allowing law-abiding gun owners to defend themselves from criminals using their own guns without fear of repercussion from the government.”

      While I agree completely with that sentiment, I was disappointed that Trump wasn’t more forceful in his stance when it came to the GZ/TM case. Yes, he said he agreed with the verdict, but he also seemed to have an issue with George himself. Not sure exactly what it was, but seemed to me it was that he felt it was partly George’s fault that it came to that. (I just felt I should say this, since even though I’m an extremely strong supporter of Donald, I think it’s important to point out the few things I disagree with him about.)

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  33. Bart Manson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ says:

    Cruz’s wife just told everyone, “Ted is an immigrant”, at her campaign stop in Indiana tonight. Exact quote.


    We have been unifying this party. Five of those 17 candidates have endorsed our campaign. And different parts of the party. We’ve been unifying fiscal conservatives. Evangelicals. Young people. Do you know that Ted has been winning the millennial vote in state after state? He’s been winning the women’s vote in state after state. Ted is an immigrant. He is Hispanic. He can unify this party. We have libertarians joining our cause. I have people everyday from the Democrat party telling that they have re-registered to vote for Ted as a Republican because they understand what he stands for and he represents American values.
    — Heidi Cruz
    — April 30th, 2016

    Emphasis added by me.

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    • Bart Manson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ says:

      Oops. Looks like the underlining didn’t work.

      No emphasis added.


    • duchess01 says:

      Bart – all I can say is – now, we know where Heidi Ho has been hiding – she has been re-programmed – now, she has become Ted’s Twin – parroting all of the same lies – for them, up is down – wrong is right – black is white – unbelievable – tell me, what is Lyin’ Ted winning – in the last six primaries – he has failed miserably – what American values?

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    • M. Mueller says:

      Seriously? I bet his campaign wishes they’d left her in the closet! I bet we’ll hear more about this.

      Liked by 2 people

    • JoD says:

      How can he be an immigrant and a Natural Born Citizen at the same time?
      Just sayin’!

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    • WSB says:



  34. Sgtrok@aol.com says:

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    • MG says:

      This was too funny. Thanks for the laughs.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Just another example of silly women’s double standards. If the-hand-that-rocks-the-cradle-esque NANNY CARLY FIORINA was a MAN singing that insane creepy song during a presser to announce VP pick, it would be all over the news…AND HE’D BE LOCKED AWAY!
      But because Snarly is a female it is somehow ok?

      These crazy women need to check themselves! We can’t have it both ways.

      Would’ve been better for Creepy Cruz to announce Fiorina as his NEW BABYSITTER on the campaign trail. One heartbeat away from the presidency? IS HE OUTTA HIS EVER LUVIN’ MIND?


      Carly Fiorina, The Shining!

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  35. M. Mueller says:

    This has probably been debated sometime before now, but what about Duncan Hunter for VP. Outside of his “wrong credit card” thing he seems to have voted just right on the trade deals, military and the supposed budget. He endorsed Trump in February and is from California. Any thoughts?


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  36. shannynae says:

    The truth can’t stay buried for long…it always comes out.

    Liked by 1 person

  37. dutzie60 says:

    I watched this today. At 1:02 speaking of the NAU and at 1:02:27 Heidi Cruz is listed on the authors page. This is from 2010 and begins with the SPP and protests mostly in Canada. I thought it was interesting.

    A film by Bryan Law and Dan Dicks “United We Fall” is a documentary about the North American Union that is being developed right now between Canada, the United States, and Mexico. For years this topic has been debated in the news and in political circles as being a possible future for North America. In recent years, the mood has shifted and a rift is developing between those who want a Deeply Integrated North American Community, and those who wish to retain their national sovereignty. This film takes a look at both sides by interviewing both insiders and activists who have been at the heart of this heated debate. The film also looks to the broader agenda of building a world government and its implications.

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