CNN Runs Segment On Trump Wall Being Very Doable – We Explain How Mexico Pays…

Six months ago every talking head on TV and print media was decrying the Trump proposal to build a border wall as impossible hyperbole.   It is amazing just how far the conversation has turned.

Yesterday CNN ran a segment on how the border wall would possibly be constructed, what materials would be used, and how much it would potentially cost.

However, what CNN apparently missed was a December explanation where candidate Donald Trump actually explained exactly what products would be used to build the Southern Border Wall.

Beyond the now admitted viability of the construction itself, we find even more reason to be very optimistic that Mexico would pay for the wall.

In a recent Mexican news article it was revealed that money transfers (remittances) from the U.S. to Mexico now surpass the amount of the entire Mexican oil business.   Wired money transfers total almost $25 Billion:

Mexico – […] There was a 4.75% increase in money sent from abroad, most of which comes from the U.S., to total US $24.8 billion last year, up from $23.6 billion in 2014, said the Bank of México.

The bank said it was the first time remittances had totaled more than petroleum revenues since it began tracking them in 1995.   Oil revenues last year totaled $23.4 billion.

An important factor in the increase in remittances is the jobs created by economic recovery in the U.S.Some 11 million Mexicans are believed to be living in the U.S. and many work in construction. Remittances, 97% of which are sent electronically, averaged $292 last year.  (read more)

Even if President Donald Trump does not renegotiate any of the $50 Billion trade imbalance we have with Mexico; and if you only target the remittance dollars ($25 billion) which are vital for the Mexican economy, you can see how easy it would be to get Mexico to pay for the border wall.

Federal Budgets are fixed on ten year projections. In order for an expenditure to be revenue neutral the revenue must meet or exceed the expenditure over a 10-year period.

If you take the $25 Billion in outbound remittances, and you apply a small 4% surcharge for each wire transfer to Mexico, that surcharge would net $1 Billion/year.   Multiplied over ten years (budget requirement) that means $10 Billion into the U.S. treasury from the surcharge fee.

$10 Billion in revenue.

How much is the projected cost of the border wall per CNN?

$10 Billion.

trump border wall

Easy peasy – problem solved.  The wall is built, and Mexico has paid for it…..

…..See how that works?

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305 Responses to CNN Runs Segment On Trump Wall Being Very Doable – We Explain How Mexico Pays…

  1. czarowniczy says:

    Back to my “I don’t think it will ever happen” post. There’s just too much money involved on both sides of the border. Y’al remember when Bush II made a state visit to Mexico and when he brought up the subject of slowing illegal immigration Fox openly told him to,pound sand?
    Cheap illegals have been here for decades. I remember kiosks in local stores back in the early 90s where forms in Spanish to transfer dinero sur were prominently displayed. Guaranteed there weren’t anywhere near enough locals who’d ever transfer cash to Latin/South America to need that service so…
    The illegals were rather invisible, no piles in big box parking lots, no one even noticed them. It wasn’t until I worked with a Federal agency that I discovered exactly how many there were in the area. In one place alone there was a large ad hoc trailer community of illegals that supported a bevy of ship and offshore construction businesses. Every LEA community knew it was there but the cheap and ‘works like a dog’ labor they provided was so important to the businesses as a whole it was ‘hands off’. I’m bettin’ that the same situation exists in a whole lotta other places.
    Trump may propose that wall but I see not only the Open Borders crowd but many of the big money folks who support Trump kneecapping him on this issue.

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    • David says:

      “apply a small 4% surcharge”? How does Trump force a Private Company like Western Union to charge customers something for the benefit of the federal Govt?

      I don’t think Executive Order will cover it. It would have to go through Congress…good luck with it. I thought our Nation had learned from the bull crap promises of the last messiah candidate.

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      • WeeWeed says:

        Transferring money isn’t free – everyone charges for it and the feds get their portion. And if I recall, I don’t believe “we” went through Congress to shut down all those Private auto dealerships, did we???

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      • Sentient says:

        Here’s how Trump could get almost any legislation through that he wants: Grab those congressmen by the nuts and squeeze and twist with all his might until they scream “uncle”. In other words, shut down the government for months at a time, if that’s what it takes. If people don’t get their Social Security money for a while, too f’ing bad. It’s not like Trump would feel compelled to protect GOP congresscritters in their reelection bids. We don’t even know whether Trump himself cares to run for a 2nd term. He’s already shown a willingness to walk from a negotiation. Zero F***s Given.

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        • harry says:

          We’re sorry for your loss Senti. ususususususus #Trump supporters will be praying for your speedy recovery. maybe you can get a job helping build our new wall.

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        • justfactsplz says:

          I think our lousy Congress Critters should have their pay docked when they don’t show up for work. That alone would help reduce government spending big time.

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        • Nobama says:

          I’ve favored Cruz throughout this campaign. But I see the benefit in a half crazy President. Ryan claims he has a “BOLD” conservative agenda. If Trump gets in, he will redefine “BOLD”. If I personally were in a position to be President, I guarantee you my plan would be SHOCK and AWE. So if Trump goes Nuclear, as long as he’s on track, he’ll end up with my support.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        Looked thru your phone bill lately? You pay a fee that subsidizes welfare recipients getting a free cell phone. There are small fees attached to nearly everything – ya won’t even notice yet another…

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      • Nobama says:

        It’s called tax. Or fee, or surcharge, or toll. It’s done all the time. And it’s often done without Congress’ consent.

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      • tonynoboloney says:

        Are you kidding, state taxes are voluntarily collected in nearly every state on many many billions of dollars in merchandise. Collecting a federal tax would be no problem. Keeping track would also be no problem as checks and balances on both sides by computer. The funds are sent by wire now we know almost exactly how much is transferred. As to “big business” being opposed to the idea, well yes they are opposed that’s why the “StopTrump” crowd is working so vigorously now. If Trump gets in he will do it, count on it.

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    • doreene says:

      Perhaps the Pope who I respect, wouldn’t mind letting Trump look at his wall for some ideas. Just saying.

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    • It can be done and it will be for our safety. Secure our borders and there are many people wanting to volunteer to help build it. It will stop the ILLEGALS that are criminals breaking the law. It will save the American people billions in tax dollars and make America great again. Bring them back legally. Put Americans first take care of our vets our homeless. There are no big money folks that support trump he pays his own way. They built the Great Wall of china, the Berlin Wall, and the Pope lives inside the wall of the Vatican City. there is a fence on the border now a piece of junk a waste of money we need to improve it and Trump knows how to build he has been doing it for years and has many accomplishments all on his own

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      • czarowniczy says:

        I’m looking at history for my opinion. I grew up reading Bill Jordan stories and writings. He was a WW II and Korean War vet and served some 30 years in the border patrol. Police and military way back when trained to his tried-and- true methods, lessons he’d learned while patrolling the Mexican border. Let’s say we go back just some 80ish years to when Bill and his coworkers were running the border- you starting to see a lack a lack of dedication to resolving the issue?
        The entire Pacific can’t halt the continued flow of illegal Asians into the US and Canada, an equally important illegal flow but ignored by the respective governments and the MSM. We can’t even stem the flow of illegal drugs into the country, to me a far more dangerous issue. The true price of some mainstream drugs has remained steady, is lower in some cases, over the last 30ish years, some War on Drugs. To add insult to injury we have illegals muleing drugs into the US.
        The power players want to flood the US with immigrants for many reasons and our getting crushed under their wheels is just ‘acceptable collateral damage’. This has been a long-ongoing thing and we just don’t have the power or influence to effect any change in the agenda. I’ve seen things on th border that make me shake my head but they don’t get fully reported or end up as plots in tv programs that helps defuse the public’s perception of the event. We may have the desire but the Power Players will continue to use their extensive influence to make us a more diverse nation.

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    • henrymbowmann says:

      While you have a point about illegals already living here, building a wall would curtail the further influx of illegals, criminals, and drugs across the Southern border. That alone makes it a win for America. Mexico wouldn’t even have to pay for the wall. Construction costs for the wall have been estimated at $15-20 Billion. In 2014, the last year that figures are available, America spent over $1 Trillion in foreign economic aid, much of it to countries that can not be considered friends. Trump could use those figures to publicly embarrass Congress and coerce them into legislating part of that money to be used on the wall and other expenditures here at home advantageous to the country.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        Having wasted a part of my life working the border drug issue l’ll guarantee you that drugs will never stop coming in, just too much of it and too many big people involved. Drugs pervade every facet of American life, the Hollyork crowd’s spent decades minimizing their use, if not pushing for normalization, and for decades far too many government agencies and private busineses have profited from the ‘War on Drugs’. Let’s face it, some 70 years after ‘Reefer Madness’ and untold millions in suppression marijuana is now being legalized by more and more states.
        Those illegals will get imminity, I’m betting, by presidential order and when they start voting as a bloc for pro-immigration candidates the flood will become a tsunami. They are already getting close on thier goals to load blue states with Latinos and shift voting patterns and RATS who see and accept their futures as vectors for the infection are lining up.
        I’d love to see 14 million educated Europeans flooding across our borders to save our foundering cilture and way of life but I don’t see that happening any time soon, much harder to walk across the Atlantic than the Rio Grande and there’s no border patrol to wipe their feet and kiss their…..sins away. There is a huge number of even Republican businesses that have a hand in fostering the illegal alien business, how many of them do you see//hear actively opposing it – so expect a ton of resistence from them. The drug and illegals issues are much ado about nothing, smoke and mirrors to distract the public while those profiting off of it continue to march.

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      • Yo says:

        Trillion? I think you are off by a few orders of magnitude

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  2. Curry Worsham says:

    Here’s the way to put the slabs together. With a wide foundation. I believe this is what Trump has in mind.

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  3. Dick Albright says:

    On my first 1962 WestPac carrier cruise out of North Island (San Diego), we bought Trail Honda’s. In 1964, My pal Stan Gray and I went south of the Anza Borregio off old Hwy 80 near Jacumba and camped overnight in an area he’d found–the “no-man’s land” just south of the hwy…a few miles. Seemed it was during the “Goldwater” era (“In your guts, you know he’s nuts”)…kinda like what they’d like to do to Donald. At that time, it was easy to get next to the border fence as it was only a 3-strand barbed wire and wooden post “barrier”. Since other avenues were available, there was no “debris” and the otherwise pristine environment was a natural desert park-like setting with dirt roads winding around. I may have pics I took of that time. Don’t know what’s there now, but times were different. We engaged Cuba, JFK was assassinated (Ike had begun to send workers back to Mexico) and the bracero program ended in 1964 due to the undocumented worker strikes and Cesar Chavez–“the end of the beginning” or the “beginning of the end”–don’t know. The bracero program was involved in the US effort to keep Mexico (neutral during WWII) from “going communist” like Cuba. Nothing new, eh? We know how to build build walls, and so does Mexico…or does it?
    http://fusion.net/story/124671/as-mexico-tightens-its-southern-border-central-american-migrants-find-new-routes-north/

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  4. joecollins says:

    The media will dub the wall “Trump’s Wall.” This is okay.

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  5. sandraopines says:

    I could have saved them all the effort of checking with “experts”. Listen to Trump, who is an expert, who said he would use the panels and never said anything about other options.

    I would also note the oodles of people who I have seen offering to help build the wall for free as a duty to our country.

    And I would add that Trump does things on time and under budget. I have seen this over and over.

    Bottom line, I appreciate the effort with the video but wish Americans could listen to Trump and understand these things without the media having to make a video explanation of THEIR idea of what Trump COULD do.

    I am still annoyed over my last night fiasco with facebook. My anger with ignorance likely still shows. ehem I will attempt to remain silent for the rest of the day. No promises tho.

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  6. TheRightGuy says:

    Just a note, Building a wall along the Texas border is next to impossible for a whole host of reasons.
    1. The border is a river and technically the US Mexico border is in the center (deepest part) of the water way.
    2. Boats cannot patrol the river because it is too shallow in multiple sections.
    3. Texas has very little property owned by the federal government. Most property is privately owned. Building a wall would require imminent domain to be exercised on a huge amount of land.
    4. Cutting Texans off from the Rio Grande is a non starter. It is needed for farming and ranching.
    5. Building a wall inland away from the river would effectively cede a huge amount of territory. A possible solution is two walls, one inland on the mexico side, one inland on the texas side, but that doubles the cost and isolates everyone between the fences.

    Partial Solution:
    Place a border fort every 50 miles along the border. The Texas border is about 900 miles. That means we only need 18-20 forts. Place sensors between the forts and staff the forts with equipment and personnel so they can intercept a crosser within 30min by vehicle and track them by air within 10-15min.

    Big Problem:
    The greater challenge are the southern border towns that usually have counterparts on the other side. Laredo, McCallan, and Brownsville are basically indefensible from an immigration standpoint. That is a 250mile stretch where there are highways and roads on both sides of the river that make it easy for anyone to cross and get picked up.

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    • shallbe4 says:

      There are natural barriers where you don’t need to build a wall. Trump always says ask Israel if their wall works. It works and has saved a lot of lives.

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    • christianitynewstoday1 says:

      I agree the wall is untenable in certain sections. To me, sensors and forts could work. But I like Trump’s ambition and vision. Even if no wall gets built we can be assured Trump will tackle the border issue head-on.

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    • Americafirst16 says:

      I smell uniparty shill !

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      • TheRightGuy says:

        Hardly. I’m just a Texan. Look at a map. We have farm and cattle land that relies on that river.
        What should be done is when we deport, it should be to the capitol city of their origin country, and deportations only done once a month (after detaining them for a maximum of 30 days). Governments would react very quickly when Hundreds of thousands of their citizens are dropped off in their capitol all on the same day.

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        • Americafirst16 says:

          Wrong again right guy ! If we can send a man to the moon and the Chinese can build a much bigger wall with 7th Century technology, Americans can build this. You fail in your assessment. Go back to stuffing envelopes for the Cruz campaign.

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          • TheRightGuy says:

            Pull your head out of your butt so you can read. I’m not saying we can’t build a wall. I am saying we can’t build a wall that denies Texans the use of the Rio Grande. Nor can a wall be built that denies Mexico the use of the Rio Grande. The US-Mexico border is in the center of that river and you can’t build a wall down the center of a river for a variety of reasons.

            Look at a map of the Great Wall. http://www.chinahighlights.com/greatwall/map.htm

            The Chinese had the luxury of building the wall on the Mongolian side of the Yellow River. We don’t have that same luxury with the Rio Grande. It isn’t a question of technology, money, or willpower. The river is a natural resource and we can’t deny its access. A different solution will need to be found.

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            • Texian says:

              A Texian here. . (I don’t believe you are a Texan as you certainly don’t sound like one. You sound like a liberal troll). Because the river is a so called [“natural resource” (red flag for liberal terminology)], it prevents the defense of The Republic?? Surely you jest. You sound like a Yankee. If you don’t build the wall you eventually lose your “natural resource” to the enemy. Build the wall, build pumps (and say with 10″pipe and iron grating so it cannot be penetrated by illegals) to serve Texan farmers and cattlemen. If you want “access” to the “natural resource” for recreation use the nearest guarded border crossing to get to it. The land doesn’t have to be “federal” in order to build on it. Texans will do as they damn well please. I would bet the owners of border ranches will gladly allow Trump’s wall to be built. So – if the rest of y’all don’t get your barn in order we are intent on leaving y’all to your demise. (We have the natural resources, seaports, international border, energy, or own grid, etc. etc. – but that is another subject of which I would gladly debate about as well). Quite frankly, if Trump doesn’t win, Texas will be heading down the road to secession in order to survive. We have grown tired of being a captive nation to a corrupt oligarchy at this point..

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            • Americafirst16 says:

              I must have hit a nerve. I didn’t know Texans were so sensitive. I have read your highly extensive engineered study. That was sarcasum. First, you state it is next to impossible to build. Then after you are called out by each person responding to your post you back off your original assertion and now say it can be done under certain conditions. Neither, Mr. Trump , myself or any other American thinks the wall will be build down the center of the river. You know this has never been purposed by any sane person. It is only common sense that other solutions for containment would be done at these points, you only state the obvious. The tone and spirit of your original post shows you do not support a wall at all and you have been exposed, just like that other slick Texan with the widow’s peak. We as Americans can do anything we set our minds too. I am sorry you do not believe in that American spirit.

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              • TheRightGuy says:

                The only nerve you’ve struck is my funny bone. You and Texian have no idea what the Texas border looks like. Are we going to build a wall in Big Bend national Park? Are you aware there are border stations just outside the Park? Frankly I enjoy Boquillas and Santa Elena Canyon and shouldn’t need my passport to visit them.
                Have you been to Brownsville or Laredo? There are neighborhoods that are right next to the river. Is the plan to use imminent domain, level thousands of houses, and build a wall?
                Thankfully Trump is a pragmatist. Yes we need walls in the western states where the border is basically a straight line. But Texas is vastly different because of the River. I wish we could have a wall, but it won’t work here. We need other Trump ideas like ending birthright citizenship for illegals, harsh laws for border violators and to overturn the ridiculous Arizona Supreme Court decision that prohibits Texas from protecting our border.
                I know these are political solutions and a physical wall will always act when politicians won’t, but unless it is built on the Mexico side of the river, there will never be a wall in Texas.

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                • Americafirst16 says:

                  You keep saying it can be done with conditions then you say can’t be done in the next breath. So is your plan to physically not stop the illegals from coming into Texas ? Your plan is to use lawyers ? Do you also plan to give them teddy bears and soccer balls too ?Again, I repeat Americans can do or build anything.and when some tells us we can’t we double down and never give up. Do you disagree with this assertion ? Based on what you have said you seem to fail the test in believing in the American spirit. You have never addresesd the patriotic aspects of the replies on this site that find what you say to be a damaging to the future security of our country..It appears all the responses by me and others, and there are many, believe it can be done. They are addressing this issue with good facts and true patriotism. But again, you are the only one in Texas that knows the land, people, shape of the state etc. Are you are telling us, based on your superior knowledge, lets just just leave Texas out of the equation when trying to physically stop the illegals from comming across the border ? You and I both know if this happens we are doomed. Your negative thinking proves you are just a liberal in Texas clothing, just as Texian stated about you, nothing more. I feel sorry for you and your defeatest third world attitude. You have been smoked out and you know it. So who are really for in this election ? Please, give me an honest answer just like that distinguished Texas attorney Ted Curz would ?

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    • Dennis says:

      The Wall Deniers keep saying a wall along our southern border can’t be built due to cost and complexity.

      But what about the Vatican wall, that was built 1700 years ago? The following information was found on wikipedia…

      The wall around Rome was built AFTER THE MUSLIMS PLUNDERED IT, built under the order of Pope Leo during his tenure (440-461AD).

      “The full circuit ran for 19 kilometres (12 mi) surrounding an area of 13.7 square kilometres (5.3 sq mi). The walls were constructed in brick-faced concrete, 3.5 metres (11 ft) thick and 8 metres (26 ft) high, with a square tower every 100 Roman feet (29.6 metres (97 ft)).”

      “In the 4th century, remodeling doubled the height of the walls to 16 metres (52 ft). By 500 AD, the circuit possessed 383 towers, 7,020 crenellations, 18 main gates, 5 postern gates, 116 latrines, and 2,066 large external windows.”

      AND YES, THAT WAS A 52′ TALL WALL. I was unable to find any information on how many bulldozers or cranes they used. :-)

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurelian_Walls
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonine_City
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Leo_I

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    • Bart Manson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ says:

      Not a single one of those reasons makes anything impossible.

      It’s sad how little Americans believe anything can be done anymore. Thankfully we had different people in this country decades ago when America was being built up, otherwise skyscrapers, massive dams, railroads spanning the continent, and a complex interstate highway system would have all been deemed impossible because there was a river or a mountain in the way.

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      • skifflegirl says:

        And if we can build massive dams, we can figure out a way to divert a river, if need be.

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        • TheRightGuy says:

          The river is the international border. Diverting it simply moves the border. And river banks move all the time, there is a huge issue going on right now where the blm is trying to claim land along the red river because the banks deposit and erode over the course of time. A permanent wall would need to be 100’s of yards away from the river to account for this, further complicating the private property problems.
          It may be possible to control the river with cement canals and fences like is done in LA and that may be a solution around the populated areas. But this would require 100’s of miles of canal and still suffers the problem of denying river access to Texans.

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    • jrobinson says:

      It doesn’t have to literally be a wall…it could be a mile-wide buffer zone with drone patrols and natl guard intercept teams. It doesn’t have to be that complicated.

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  7. Sylvia says:

    the right guy……wow it sounds like someone should hire YOU to build’6he wall’??? lol

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  8. Summer says:

    CNN: $10.5 billion, 4 years.

    TRUMP: What part of “under budget, ahead of schedule” do you not understand?

    And that will be 1,000 miles, not 2,000.

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  9. Sentient says:

    Couple things: the federal government spends ~ $11 billion per day (including entitlements). If the wall were to cost $100 billion to build it’d be worth it.

    The first thing needed to build the wall would be enabling legislation to trump (no pun intended) all existing tribal, environmental and park laws. One person who could provide good advice to Trump on this would be – believe it or not – Hugh Hewitt. Hewitt has long wanted a wall (or a “fence”, as he would’ve said), and his law firm’s specialty is dealing with environmental impact, tribal conflicts, etc. He’d also worked within the federal government under Reagan. He would have some good advice for The Don on who should craft the necessary enabling legislation.

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  10. Sentient says:

    Right Guy. Anything short of a wall – including forts, gun turrets, sensors, etc. is inadequate – reason being that any open-borders president (of either party) could simply decline to man the turrets. This can be seen from the current orders from Obama to “stand down” and not interdict encroachers. All of the technological problems can be surmounted – including ways for ranchers to get water. Mankind has built things in water for centuries. We put a man on the moon 47 years ago. We can build a wall. If the cost were “doubled” from $10 billion to $20 billion, that would still amount to only about 44 hours’ worth of federal spending. We can build it if we want to. We’re America, for F’s suck!

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    • skifflegirl says:

      If we can build the Hoover Dam we should be able to divert a river to put up a wall. Split it in half if it’s needed on both sides. We can’t leave it to future open-borders presidents, like you said. No other option: split the river, build the dang wall!

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  11. Marvin Harrison says:

    The surcharge will be 20%. Part of the reason for a surcharge is to discourage sending the money out of the country. You only need about 1000 miles of wall because of natural barriers, and in some places the wall will be different because of ranches, farms, towns and it will be made to conform. Prisoner and detainee labor can be used to some extent for those who prefer to be outside instead of in a jail or detention center.

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  12. Americafirst16 says:

    The Pope is now giving Trump trouble because of the wall he wants to build, said Trump is not Christian. Funny the Vatican City a regonized country, has a wall all the way around it.
    To paraphrase Ronald Reagan- “Mr. Pope tear down this wall !”

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    • Awaken says:

      What is even funnier is the Pope said the US should build bridges, not walls… Ummm, perhaps the pope was unaware the US allows more legal immigration (bridges, right?) than any other country in the world. I think the Pope needs to stick to Catholicism, and stay out of politics, he sucks at it.

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    • Sentient says:

      As a Catholic, I would like to point out that the pope’s opinion about our border has no special authority to Catholics whatsoever. I would also like to point out that this pope is an A-hole.

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  13. Pepperjelly says:

    Building a wall is an “act of love”. Love for your country and the safety and security of its citizens.

    And the Vatican has a Trump-sized wall. Hypocritical much?

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    • Plain Jane says:

      You beat me to this. :-)

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    • Ash says:

      I do not agree with Pope Francis on this subject of a wall to protect our country. Every country has that right even the Vatican so why not America?

      Funny how everyone is screaming about separation of church and state and yet our government is willing to pay the Catholic Church and other churches large amounts of money to do the work the federal government or states should be doing like getting people who come here settled and know where they are at any given time. Why is no one screaming about that like they scream about the Ten Commandments or other religious items being on public property?

      The churches here are not set up for screening millions of people, giving them physicals to be sure they are disease free like those immigrants that came through Ellis Island. They should not be giving people refuge when they have broken the law to get here. Especially when churches themselves are governed by laws. It’s called the Ten Commandments and you break those commandments (laws) you pay the consequences in the church.

      What does it say about a church, any church that advocates for it’s parishioners to commit sins or crimes? I was taught it was a sin to say a Jewish person was in your basement even if it were to protect his/her life back in WWII. Just because it might be justified or the right thing to do it does not make a lie right.

      My dad used to say “If you do something wrong I might punish you. But if you lie I will punish you for sure. Once for the thing you did was wrong, but more importantly for the lie. For if you lie you lose my trust, and it is not won back so easily as forgiveness for doing something wrong. This Pope is asking people to assist those breaking laws and lying. Both sins. How is he protecting their souls by advocating such behavior?

      Churches should be worried about the welfare of peoples souls, not encouraging them to commit sins (crimes) by just coming into this country let alone other crimes they commit while here. They should be helping people to stay in their own countries and make their own countries better, or at least come here when invited by coming through the legal process to do so.

      Even the Pope is advocating people to sin by asking us to look the other way when these people break laws set forth by our country and even the church itself. That to me says a lot about this Pope.

      To me these people that come here illegally are breaking and entering the same way if they broke into a house or business they do not own taking food from the house and other items they want. Then they steal services that we Americans pay for like Social Security, medical care, schooling, and food stamps just to name a few. They damage the property of those on the border by tracking through their property.

      They ask others to bear false witness by asking people to lie for them to get services that they are not entitled to, including the churches that harbor them and help them break laws to stay here. To me that is akin to locking my door to keep strangers out. I have taken in relatives and foster children over the years and I always said I have room for one more at the table but it is at my invitation, not someone breaking in to get a bed and a meal. We as Americans are very generous people but it does not mean people should be free to steal that which they want and do not want to wait to get legally.

      Pope Francis to me is bearing false witness by saying Donald Trump and others are not Christian because he wants to lock the doors to our house so they can not “break in?” Is Pope Francis going to house all these illegals in his home? Are they going to let the Vatican be overrun by people not invited to stay there? I don’t think so. So why does he feel he has any right to tell us as a nation what to do?

      If Pope Francis really cared/loved the Mexican citizens he would not want them to be coming across the border where people die from a wide range of things like the heat, predatory animals and human predators that are paid to bring them here. Where women are raped, people die being brought across the border in unsafe containers (hidden trunks, shipping containers, etc.).

      Then if they make it there are the obstacles they face being employed where they fear deportation and are taken advantage of by some (probably most) people that employ them. How is that “love?”

      Wouldn’t it be better if the Pope wants to say something about immigration speak out about the atrocities these people suffer under their own government that make them flee in the first place? And where is he calling out the persecution of Christians around the world murdered for their faith whether it be Catholic, Hindu, or even Muslim. Gay Muslims that are thrown from roof tops, women who have no human rights, and female children that have genital mutilation?

      To me Pope Francis would be better off focusing on getting the heads of the countries where people are fleeing to give their citizens basic human rights rather than attacking another country or leader for something he is not willing to do himself.

      I know as a Catholic I am supposed to follow the teachings of The Pope as the leader of my church but I also know God gave me a brain and a conscience and I am expected to use both. In doing so I do not agree with a Pope who to me is too concerned with being liked/loved by all people then following the most basic teachings of the church which is to love one another. Allowing Mexican or any other people to flee a country and break laws coming into another country that put their lives at risk, thereby committing a crime/sin is not love.

      I think this quote by Ronald Regan sums it up: “We must reject the idea that every time a law’s broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.”

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  14. TheCloseButton says:

    If we can build 46,000 miles of interstate (not to mention the million miles of roads), we can build a 2,000 wall. It’s just a vertical road, if you will.

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  15. TheCloseButton says:

    It’s not 11 million illegals here. It’s more like 30 million. That 11 million figure comes from a Pew Research study 11 years ago! And, they were using the 2000 census to calculate. Plenty of illegals don’t fill out the census! Meanwhile in the last 16 years, there’s been lots of talk of amnesty so millions more have been streaming across the border to get their citizenship. Ann Coulter calculates based on many factors 30 million. That’s like 25% of the population of Mexico resides in the USA.

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  16. DaveNY says:

    I am thinking at this point Trump should make the marxist pope foot the bill

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  17. TheFenian says:

    I laughing at the amount of posts here explanning why the wall is impossible.

    Impossible? Eradicating world hunger is impossible. Converting the World’s 1.6 billion muslim savages to Christianity or Hinduism or Judeism or some other peaceful ideology is impossible.

    Building a 1,000-2,000 mile wall? Piece of cake.

    Eminent domaine and environmental impact roadblocks will be swept aside with lightning speed. It’s called National Security, hello? McFly?

    Cutting the trade imbalance with Mexico by half will more than pay for the wall. Placing a tax on remitances is a secondary way to pay for the wall. (In addition, tracking who makes these remitances gives ICE a handy database from which to track down and expel illegal aliens.)(Talk about a win-win!!)

    Did someone really say that we can’t block acess to the Rio Grande? LOL. Sure we can. In fact, we could build a wall right through the center of the Rio Grande – a wall comming up through the water itself. You know why? Because we’re Americans and if we can dream it, we can do it.

    Impossible? That’s funny.

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  18. Dennis says:

    The Wall Deniers keep saying a wall along our southern border can’t be built due to cost and complexity.

    But what about the Vatican wall, that was built 1700 years ago? The following information was found on wikipedia…

    The wall around Rome was built AFTER THE MUSLIMS PLUNDERED IT, built under the order of Pope Leo during his tenure (440-461AD).

    “The full circuit ran for 19 kilometres (12 mi) surrounding an area of 13.7 square kilometres (5.3 sq mi). The walls were constructed in brick-faced concrete, 3.5 metres (11 ft) thick and 8 metres (26 ft) high, with a square tower every 100 Roman feet (29.6 metres (97 ft)).”

    “In the 4th century, remodeling doubled the height of the walls to 16 metres (52 ft). By 500 AD, the circuit possessed 383 towers, 7,020 crenellations, 18 main gates, 5 postern gates, 116 latrines, and 2,066 large external windows.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurelian_Walls
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonine_City
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Leo_I

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    • A minor fact check here. Muslims didn’t exist until Muhammad’s time in the mid 600s.

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      • Gail Combs says:

        Actually it started as the site where the Apostle Peter as well as many other christians were murdered. The city walls were built ~200 years after the birth of islam.

        “… During the Roman period, several villas, the Agrippina’s gardens, Emperor Caligula’s (37-41 A.D.) mother’s house, coupled with a wide Circus and necropolis were built along the main roads – Via Cornelia and Via Trionfalis -. The Circus was later restored and enlarged by Nero (54-68 A.D.) the so called Circus Neronis…

        The Apostle Peter received the martyrdom there being crucified up-side-down in the great Christian persecution ordered by Nero in 64 A.D. and he was buried right outside the Circus of Nero, along the Via Cornelia. Tons of unknown Christians had the same destiny along the centuries and were tortured in the same Circus of Nero.
        Thus, many Christians, wished to be buried near the tomb of St. Peter ….

        …. Seven centuries later, the Emperor Charle Magne, great defender of the Roman Catholic Church, was crowned Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire on the Christmas Eve of 800 by Pope Leo III. He thought to secure the Vatican with city walls. In this way, few years later, Pope Leo IV (847-855) built the first city walls of the “civitas” which derived its name “Leonina”: the so called Leo’s City which became the spiritual centre of Medieval and Renaissance Rome.

        In 1309 the Papal court was moved to Avignon (in France: the so called “Avignon captivity”) and not only Rome itself but also St. Peter were totally abandoned for over a century…..”
        http://www.rometravels.com/the_vatican_city.html

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      • Mara says:

        There were Saracens then; but by mid 12th century, they were called Mohammedans or Muslims.

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  19. zzschnops says:

    Tell the Poop to “TEAR DOWN THIS WALL”

    now you understand a little of what made be become an atheist. The catholic church is all about money and privilege ; for those on the inside, anyway.

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    • zzschnops says:

      As a seminarian I spoke with hundreds of priests, ministers, deacons, bishops trying to find out if I had a calling. What I found out was was they were only in it for the money and prestige. Lie a little on Sunday and get paid for a whole week. Don’t bother telling me about the ‘good’ ones you know personally. You have to get inside to find out the real dope

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    • Apparently, you reject the teachings of Jesus Christ and of His apostle to the Gentiles, Paul. Me thinks there are other reasons you chose atheism.

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      • Gail Combs says:

        Stomach turning hypocrisy is the main reason I gave up on Christianity too and became an agnostic.

        Yes There are good Christians out there. There are also a whole bunch like Cruz who use it for manipulating people for power or for the money.

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    • Americafirst16 says:

      I am sorry you gave up you faith and I hope you find peace in your life. The true greatness of God is he gave us all free will to make our own choices. I think we can both agree that those choices are being taken away from us and we must fight for our freedom no matter or religious beliefs. I do agree that large organized religion is all about money, power, and control. I have a great faith in God but it is on a more personal level. We are all in this together to make America great again.

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  20. Gail Combs says:

    Civilian volunteers were patroling the border back in 2006 and the US government was sabotaging them by reporting their location to the Mexican government!

    U.S. tipping Mexico to Minuteman patrols
    “While Minuteman civilian patrols are keeping an eye out for illegal border crossers, the U.S. Border Patrol is keeping an eye out for Minutemen — and telling the Mexican government where they are.

    According to three documents on the Mexican Secretary of Foreign Relations Web site, the U.S. Border Patrol is to notify the Mexican government as to the location of Minutemen and other civilian border patrol groups when they participate in apprehending illegal immigrants — and if and when violence is used against border crossers.

    A U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman confirmed the notification process, describing it as a standard procedure meant to reassure the Mexican government that migrants’ rights are being observed.

    “It’s not a secret where the Minuteman volunteers are going to be,” Mario Martinez said Monday….

    Minuteman members were not so sanguine about the arrangement, however, saying that reporting their location to Mexican officials nullifies their effectiveness along the border and could endanger their lives.

    “Now we know why it seemed like Mexican officials knew where we were all the time,” said Chris Simcox, founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps. “It’s unbelievable that our own government agency is sending intelligence to another country. They are sending intelligence to a nation where corruption runs rampant, and that could be getting into the hands of criminal cartels.

    “They just basically endangered the lives of American people.”

    Officials with the Mexican consulate in Washington, D.C., could not be reached for comment Monday.

    Martinez said reporting the location of immigrant apprehensions to consulate representatives is common practice if an illegal immigrant requests counsel or believes they have been mistreated.

    “Once an illegal alien is apprehended, they can request counsel,” he said. “We have to give their counsel the information about their apprehension, and that includes where they are apprehended, whether a Minuteman volunteer spotted them or a citizen.”

    Martinez said Mexico’s official perception of the civilian groups is that they are vigilantes…

    One of the documents on the Web site, “Actions of the Mexican Government in Relation to the Activities of Vigilante Groups,” states that Mexican consulate representatives stay in close contact with Border Patrol chiefs to ensure the safety of migrants trying to enter the U.S…..

    TJ Bonner, president of the National Border Patrol Council, a union representing more than 10,000 Border Patrol agents, said agents have complained for years about the Mexican consulate’s influence over the agency.

    “It worries me (that the Mexican government) seems to be unduly influencing our enforcement policies. That’s not a legitimate role for any foreign nation,” Bonner said, though he added, “It doesn’t surprise me.”

    Border Patrol agents interviewed by the Daily Bulletin said they have been asked to report to sector headquarters the location of all civilian volunteer groups, but to not file the groups’ names in reports if they spot illegal immigrants.

    “Last year an internal memo notified all agents not to give credit to Minuteman volunteers or others who call in sightings of illegal aliens,” said one agent, who spoke on the condition he not be identified. “We were told to list it as a citizen call and leave it at that. Many times, we were told not to go out to Minuteman calls.”….”

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  21. Gail Combs says:

    Here is another one from my file.

    Mexican Government Threatens Minutemen Over Civilian Border Patrols
    ” The government of Mexico yesterday issued a threat of legal action against the Minuteman Civil Defense Corp (“MCDC”) over the civilian group’s “Secure Our Borders” month-long operations on the northern and southern United States borders this October.

    The Mexican consul for Brownsville, Texas, Victor Manuel Treviño Escudero, was reported by The Brownsville Herald as saying. “the consulate will be alert for human rights violations or anything illegal, and would be disposed to sue the group for any trespasses”….

    According to the U.S. State Department, the Mexican government has a long and sordid history of human rights violations and corruption that continues today. Millions of frustrated Mexican citizens have given up trying to change their government and are now voting with their feet by crossing into the United States, using legal and illegal means.

    “The Minutemen do not blame Mexican nationals for wanting to live and work in the United States,” said Chris Simcox, President of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps. “Our grievance is with the corrupt Mexican government and the oligarchs in power there who are callously shifting the responsibility of their impoverished population to the United States taxpayer through ineffectual border control efforts.”

    Simcox continued, “The border policies of the Mexican and United States governments have created a tragic and dangerous situation for citizens of both countries. Each year hundreds of Mexican and other nationals die a horrible death as they traverse desert wilderness attempting to illegally enter the United States. Among the sea of humanity that moves across the open borders every day, terrorists are free to walk across the border unchecked with chemical, biological and even nuclear materials. This is an unacceptable level of national security risk in a post-9/11 world.”

    As recently reported in The Arizona Daily Star, the Mexican border town of Sasabe, Sonora, has been taken over de facto by drug smugglers and “coyotes” in a manner reminiscent of Al Qaeda’s taking over Iraqi towns on the Syrian border.

    National security experts have said repeatedly it is not a matter of “if,” but of “when” terrorists will bring weapons of mass destruction across the open borders….

    The MCDC will have over 4,000 trained citizen volunteers posted at strategic points along the northern and southern United States border though the month of October to monitor conditions and report sightings to the U.S. Border Patrol of illegal border crossings by illegal aliens, drug smugglers and potential terrorists. The MCDC “Secure Our Borders” operation will provide much-needed resources to the grossly undermanned Border Patrol by supplying volunteers who report suspicious activity directly to authorities….”

    Information on contacting the civilian volunteer patrol is given in the article.

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  22. Patriot1 says:

    Tall fences make good neighbors.

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  23. whodoneit says:

    The proposed wall won’t work no matter how tall or thick it is unless it’s topped with at least three feet of electrified barbed wire curved toward Mexico. Just the wall itself won’t stop them.

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  24. Sandy Wilson says:

    Of course it’s doable the wall will be built between Mexico and the United States because Trump has all the leverage to get it built. Mexico is dependent on the United States for funding. This wall will be built.

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