1984 – Globalism, Global Economics and The Disconnect In Presidential Politics…

Unlike the chatter amid most of the professional punditry we don’t view the Ted Cruz -v- Donald Trump debate confrontation as the most consequential part of the GOP debate in South Carolina.   The exchange between Donald Trump and Jeb Bush regarding China and trade economics was actually the most revealing.

Donald Trump pointed out because of the size of our market we have tremendous leverage on China; leverage we have failed to use for the past three decades.

trump vs bush

For the sake of brevity, I’m going to accept that most readers here are familiar with who is funding and directing Jeb Bush, and in larger, more consequential measures, the DC apparatchik in charge of U.S. Policy, ie. Wall street.

In retort to Trump pointing out a necessary shift in trade position (a shift to put American interests first – a shift to stop the dependency on cheap import goods – a shift to use China’s dependency on access to our market to OUR advantage) Jeb Bush came back with an example of Boeing manufacturing.

Donald Trump, responding to Jeb’s Boeing example, pointed out China is forcing Boeing to open a manufacturing plant in China.  As typical from a candidate who is unfamiliar and unbriefed on the issue Jeb looked back incredulously and said:

“C’mon man”…

There you have it.  There’s the disconnect.  Almost everyone missed it.  There, in that exact moment, is the spotlight upon all that is wrong with a professional political class; globalists dependent on Wall Street for their talking points.

Trump was 100% correct.

But the issue is bigger.

Not only is China demanding Boeing open a plant in China, the intent of such a plant provides an opportunity to explain why Trump is vitally important – and time is wasting.

China is refusing to trade with Boeing if the company does not move.  Why? It’s not about putting Chinese people to work, it’s about China importing their research and development, Boeing’s production secrets, into their country so they can learn, steal and begin to manufacture their own airliners.

This is just how China works.  In time, Comac, a state-owned, Shanghai-based aerospace company will then use the production secrets they have stolen, produce their own airliners, kick out Boeing, undercut the market, and sell cheaper manufactured airplanes to the global economy.

Boeing, the great American company that Jeb Bush thinks they are, becomes yet another notch on the Asian market belt.

All of those Boeing workers, those high-wage industrial skill jobs that support the American middle class, yeah – those jobs lost.   And the cycle continues.

Of course Wall Street will be invested in the cheaper Chinese aerospace manufacturing company Comac, as it emerges as a manufacturing power.

This reality within this story is a peek into the future of the fundamental disconnect between Wall Street (grows again) and Main Street (lost jobs/wages).   The reality within this example is exactly what has taken place over the past three decades.

Wall Street entities Goldman Sachs will be fine; Ted and Heidi Cruz will be fine; Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Nikki Haley, Carly Fiorina, Chris Christie, John Kasich will be fine – it’s middle America who suffers.  The economic consequence, yet again, creates disparity between those insulated by Wall Street and the rest of the U.S.

…. And so they will propose solutions, their solutions.

Meanwhile the non-import market, your visit to the grocery store, food, energy etc. sees prices increasing.  This is what happens when a production economy becomes a service economy.

trump hard hat

In 1984 a name brand polo shirt would cost around $45, a really good TV around $600 to $1,000, a decent couch $1500, and a pair of name brand sneakers around $100.  However, eggs (.49), milk ($1.79 gal), and store bread (2 loaves for $1).

Electric bill $100, water bill $20, phone bill $50.

In 2016 an imported name brand polo costs around $20, a really good TV $300 to $600, a couch for $500 and a pair of sneakers $50 – All imported, all Asian, all about half of of what they cost in 1984.

However, eggs ($1.99), Milk ($4.50+), and store bread ($2+ each).  All domestic products and all double or triple 1984.  Electric bill $250, Water bill $100, phone bill $100. Again domestic consumables, again double or triple.

egg prices

We consume and spend more on domestic goods such as food, energy, fuel, than we do purchasing imported durable goods.  As a consequence the net out-of-pocket is essentially the same to a little more.  However, the income opportunity, the jobs, the good paying jobs, well, those are gone because the durables are no longer part of the domestic production.

To keep the unemployed pitchforks at bay, government policy (now directed by Wall Street globalists and corporations) subsidize the income gap; EBT, WIC and food stamp assistance necessarily increasing.

Pitchforks dropped, but economic independence turns to dependence.   Government policy adjusted accordingly – deficits necessarily explode.

Yes, under Donald Trump’s proposal the cost of “durable” goods -at least those we import- will increase, your iPhone might cost $800 instead of $600.  However, the North Carolina apparel, clothing and furniture manufacturing market will have an opportunity to revitalize – and with it, jobs.

There’s going to be a period of pain as U.S. manufacturing finds it’s footing and begins to restart.  However, in the longer term it’s a shift from “dependency” to “independence”.

Those who were fully matriculated independent adults prior to 1984 know exactly what needs to be done.

Freedom is dependent upon it.

reagan trump 2ben shapiro

Meanwhile, Ben Shapiro was born in 1984 and necessarily views the world through the cost of his next iPhone.   A Wall Street supporter.  Ted Cruz was thirteen.

 

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282 Responses to 1984 – Globalism, Global Economics and The Disconnect In Presidential Politics…

    • Great clip. Jeb is clearly a paper tiger. He’s not just a Saudi gopher – he’s China’s boy, too. SICK!

      Jeb has no clue – just no clue. The whole country is flyover land to him, but worse than that, he doesn’t even have an inkling of the coastal anti-Americanism and globalist imperatives that he shills so effectively. He’s a frigging parrot. No wonder he was for Common Core, and unwavering in supporting it. He can’t understand why they’re wrong. He’s beyond tone-deaf – he’s deaf, dumb and blind. He holds these positions that benefit foreign powers, but he can’t even understand them enough to launch an effective defense. Trump just walked all over him.

      Jeb CANNOT deal with the Chinese leadership. CANNOT. He’s a danger to this country – foreign powers will use him like kleenex.

      For all of Bill Clinton’s machiavellian savoir faire in terms of selling out our technology to help China, Jeb has equal and equally dangerous failure to understand. Jeb is W without brains. Scary!

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    • notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital says:

      Thanks

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    • SharonKinDC says:

      TYVM. BTW, the Boeing deal not only includes the plant but TECHNOLOGY TRANSFER!

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      • annieoakley says:

        Haven’t all of these ‘deals’ included all of the technology too? All computers are now manufactured in China and so China can hack into any or all of them.

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    • Katherine McCoun says:

      Bush should not have fought to answer Trump back! Trump knows what is going on and Bush looks idiotic. Boeing is clearly opening a plant in China. Bush is clueless and Trump is sharp and tough

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      • TwoLaine says:

        Not only should he have read the The Art of The Deal & Crippled America by now, he should be listening to TRUMP’s Rally’s. I mean it’s not like he hasn’t mentioned this 100 times since it was announced. Any one of us would have set him straight the other night.

        He’s in deep doo-doo. His donors are pissed because he’s attacking Rubio, their Jeb! back-up plan. His $100 Million Plus Super PAC appears to be out of $$$. They are crowdsourcing funds for a $300k Superbowl Commercial.

        And he makes fun of TRUMP for not being a serious candidate. This is a guy who thinks it’s important to release a “book” of his emails during a Presidential campaign, where clearly no one cares!

        He is an embarrassment to all..

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  1. chasingfacts says:

    not just bambam alone that did this mess. They have their army, Trump is gathering his. I can’t help thinking of Trump as a General- the one he wants and th one we need.

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  2. John Galt says:

    “As typical from a candidate who is unfamiliar and unbriefed on the issue Jeb looked back incredulously and said: “C’mon man”

    Sum ting wong. Stands on tip toes, shows off Apple watch, obsesses about Trump’s bathrobe and slippers, tries to sell $75 guaca bowle (Jeb can’t spell bowl), jebbush.com redirects to donaldjtrump.com, jebbush.org has Halloween links, constantly saying/tweeting stupid stuff, dresses like Mr. Rogers. I think Trump is trying to tell us something.

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    • Doodahdaze says:

      Endorsed by Linda. What a catch.

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    • JEB = Jimminychristmas Emptyfrigginsuit Bush

      Seriously, this is why the guy is being positioned against Hillary. He’s clueless. He just does exactly what other people tell him to do. And those other people do NOT have the well-being of the American middle class, or even the American nation, anywhere near the top of their priority list.

      Jeb is a creation of the media, the elite, and the globalist ruling class. He can’t even beat Kid Rubio on ideas – all he can do is throw negative ads at him.

      I swear, it seemed like Jeb thought that Boeing moving their plants to China was a good thing. Stunning. It’s like Common Core. “Education is good. Business overseas is good. Why is Donald complaining and angry? I have a positive message of growth!”

      Yeah. “Growth” like a friggin’ metastatic cancer.

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  3. 1911 Pistolero says:

    Trump is an answer to a prayer for us in manufacturing. We’ve been watching our high paying jobs march of shore for far too long. Clinton started the exodus by granting China most favored nation status. The effect was almost immediate and the results have been disastrous for our economy. And the powers to be knew it. That’s why they created the GNP so they could hide the numbers. Manufacturing has historically been about 25% of GDP. It’s currently at less than 8%. There are many reasons to vote for Trump. What you heard on that stage in rebuttal to his remarks on Tariff is more of the same. And look how well that’s worked. The hell with everyone else, let’s take care of America first. We are China’s market, so we hold the cards. Trump understands this.

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  4. Joe says:

    Great column. Again, why I come here.

    I disagree with the last assertion, I don’t believe there will be a downtime or dip during a Trump recovery. As a small business owner one thing I can say is the American entrepreneur has been pared down to an extremely lean, lethal animal that has been crouched for the kill for quite awhile now. When we spring it will be an explosion and we are tired of waiting.

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    • amjean says:

      There may be a “planned” financial meltdown
      of some sort like in 2008. One thing that is curious. We know
      that Obama is giving the country away; hiring more government
      workers, letting in illegals by the hundreds of thousands and
      refugees from Syria by the hundreds of thousands (or at least
      that is the plan). Many are given green cards and that allows
      them to live off of welfare. Also, the federal government is
      taking our tax dollars and giving it to the churches in order
      to support their coming over here. Combined, it is a huge cost.

      There was a chart indicating the tax revenue during 2001
      through 2006 I believe that show that during Bush’s tenure
      they collected $2 trillion to $2.4 trillion. Obama is
      collecting almost double that. However, those welfare and
      other out of control government costs keep increasing.
      My opinion is that Obama is trying to bankrupt the country

      We have one more year; it will be interesting to see what
      Obama has up his sleeve, ramping up the plan to destroy
      our country. Hearing about his plan to become the
      Secretary General of the UN is also interesting. Perhaps
      it will keep him occupied for the next year, thinking he can
      con the world after he successfully conned many in the US
      and other countries. And if he is serious about heading up
      the UN, he might want to pull back on his plan to destroy us;
      it might not look so good when he is job hunting.

      I would appreciate other comments on this.

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      • I agree 100% – his Cloward-Piven strategy is obvious. A lot if it is designed to hamstring his successor, but also to enable his successor (hopefully Jeb or Christie) to make .gov even bigger and more powerful, in the name of security. Obama wants the next Democrat to have a powerful security apparatus that can round up the guns.

        All of Obama’s destruction works like a symphony, with the various disconnected parts which appear chaotic, actually supporting each other.

        Trump will not only have the job of repairing the damage, and making America great, but also treason-proofing it against the next Democrat.

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      • WSB says:

        Overwhelm the system. That is what he will try to finish off this year. Since it is becoming clear that a Sargeant of Arms will not be dispatched to arrest Obama, the American people will need to lead themselves. it could get very tense if he starts extreme actions.

        Can’t trust anyone.

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      • SharonKinDC says:

        Guess what is likely included in ‘tax revenue’? Obamacare ‘penalties’…

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    • KBR says:

      I hope so. But major manufacturing plants don’t get restarted overnight, rebuilt even. Most of the machinery involved is not made here anymore. The computers are not made here anymore. (Heck even such basic items as electric transformers aren’t made here anymore.) So to “reopen” major textile manufacturing plants, we would have to build new ones and seriously refurbish some others. Many of the buildings are unlikely to be usable as they are now (one near me is now an office building/condominium with a textile museum in it!) Also, we would have to purchase machinery from some other country or we have to first build and open factories to build the textile machinery (quite a few different types) and build a factory to build computer parts, and build a factory to make electrical circuitry, etc etc.
      Also to be fully operational we might have to start producing cotton again which means major changes for farmers and agricultural legislation. Of course our synthetic materials industry also has to be restored: polyester doesn’t grow from the ground. Chemical plants (make synthetics) and all the restrictions that govern them including the waste product handling need review.

      Legislative regulations that work against all of these things would need revision too. All the buildings, factories, machines, metal works, and even agriculture would take quite some time to be fully operational. And whether white collar people realize it or not, repairing those large machines was a high skill,many most of those highly skilled people, we once had in relative abundance, who would have trained younger workers have died by now. The legislation alone would take forever to get straightened out unless Trump can work magic there.

      When our manufacturing was taken, all of this was taken. What an enormous loss to our nation! We CAN do it, rebuild it. But not in a day.

      So the idea that we will be all made in America again within a few months is not realistic.
      President Trump can set us on our way, but yes, there will be a transition period!

      Now multiply my meager knowledge of textile manufacturing by all the other industries that need restarting! We need a thousand Trumps: builders, managers, as well as entrepreneurs! Hope he can find us some!

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      • KBR says:

        I had a sad thought. We built all that. We designed every machine. We created polyester and rayon. We created that nubby cotton cloth we use as bath towels. We made the enormous lengths and widths of cloth to be cut and sewn into sheets. We made the threads to weave those fabrics, and even the spools the threads wrapped around.

        But I remember that the work was said to be hard. And fathers and mothers told their children they hoped they wouldn’t “end up” working in those mills all their lives. Our hope that each generation might be more “successful” than the last had something to do with the loss of our manufacturing. In some ways I think Americans, collectively speaking, bit the hand (factory jobs) that fed us. Pride does come before a fall.

        There needs to be a renewal of blue collar pride in the working man/woman and pride in a woman being a mom! On the part of everyone.
        White collars are the guys in DC,mother guys in the big banks,mother guys on Wall Street. White collars are the shameful ones!

        Yes Obama! We DID build that!

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        • ediegrey says:

          Media does its job of manipulating people. We were told in the seventies we shouldn’t have so many children, the planet would implode. Now we are told we don’t have enough people to replace ourselves and must bring in immigrants, etc. They lie to us and tv and movies and books enforce it.

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        • 123loulou says:

          The factory work isn’t as hard as it was in my parents time ( 1940). Now I believe our problem will be with the fact we don’t have any young people with the will or attitude to work factory work. They are spoiled and lazy,they want to start at the top with top pay. Schools produce young people that think they are college material even though having a trade is harder than college or white collar work. The colleges pushed everyone to attend college just for the money, a lot of it from the government. The people should also know that with a trade they can make plenty of money if they have the will to succeed with a business of their own.

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          • annieoakley says:

            I have a degree and truly wish I had leaned a trade-electricity/low voltage. Far more satisfying and interesting than anything else I ever tried to do with my degree.

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          • But today’s factories? They are very high tech robotic places. You must know how to run machines and computer programs to do much of this. From what I have heard, there is little sweat and dirt, but many machines and programming. *not in every factory, of course.

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      • Malatrope says:

        All you have to do to find the entrepreneurs is make the economic environment such that a profit can be made. All else will be taken care of by the thousands upon thousands of smart, energetic people seeking their fortune.

        You don’t go off looking for them. They find themselves.

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        • notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital says:

          Like “self organizing” systems.

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        • WSB says:

          Trump understands that. The immediate egg would be natural gas and oil exports. The commodities are sinking in value, but exporting both may be viable, and thwart South American and Russian competitors.

          Selling Government assets and land coul also jumpstart a positive chain reaction.

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      • Kris says:

        We still grow a lot of cotton. A lot. It largely gets exported

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  5. feralcatsblog says:

    I can make this march, and I will make the Establishment howl!
    – Donald Tecumseh Trump

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    • georgiafl says:

      Careful now…. them’s fightin’ words.

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    • Joe says:

      History Channel: “Sherman’s strategic expectations and, together with Grant’s victories in Virginia, destroyed the Confederacy’s ability to carry on the war.”

      Yes sir, that’s how you win.

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      • georgiafl says:

        He did not have to burn people’s homes. Period. Sherman is no hero and no example of a good general.

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        • georgiafl says:

          “If the question was asked, “Who was and still is the most hated and despised man in the history of Georgia” the response would be William Tecumseh Sherman. From the onset of hostilities in the Atlanta Campaign on May 6, 1864 and the March to the Sea ending two days before Christmas 1864 with him capturing Savannah, no one created more destruction.”
          http://www.aboutnorthgeorgia.com/ang/William_Tecumseh_Sherman

          (cold fury, which is much worse than cold anger)

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          • rashamon says:

            Nor did he have to allow the murder and rape of women and children. He killed the Southern economy for 100 years and instigated carpetbagging that hurt all the races and economic levels.

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          • Joe says:

            He not only won the war, his march shortened the war.

            Sherman was, in fact, a great humanitarian. The battle deaths, in the Civil War, were beyond horrendous and shortening that war was was an act of great humanity. Destroying human slavery was also an act of great humanity.

            To deny these facts puts one on the wrong side of the advancement of civilization, human decency and all that is right in this world.

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            • KBR says:

              There’s a great site for arguing the civil war. I used to comment there sometimes. Iol

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              • KBR says:

                That was supposed to be I will not Iol. Accidentally hit the post comment button scrolling.
                Anyway I will try to find it for you guys if you would like me too.
                There are a lot of bad feelings from the civil war. The history was written by the victors, so trying to “prove points” with links sometimes unfairly favors the Union side. But I have (or used to have) great resources for the Confederate side which amongst some of the more studious and truly interested Unionists was actually appreciated! But be forewarned, some (both sides) want to argue more than they want to understand what happened.
                Let me know. It might be aggravating to find the link, but I will just for you two!

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                • Joe says:

                  I have done a fair amount of research on Sherman. Sherman was involved with the CA gold rush and his writings of early California are fascinating. His tale about the first taste of chili colorado is fantastic. Sherman even purchased land in the gold country not far from Yosemite.

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            • georgiafl says:

              He could have freed slaves along the way (and there were not very many, none of my family held slaves, on any side of my Southern family), and he could have spared people’s homes.

              You know, Yankees had slaves too. The first slaves in North America were owned by blacks.

              I’m glad slavery is over (except in Muslim lands and in the US when the #@$%^&* Saudis bring them here) but the war was not about slavery, but about states’ rights and business conflicts, not some grand glorious freeing of slaves.

              Do not lecture me about Wm. T. Sherman.

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              • Joe says:

                Deflecting is not an effective argument…have you seen your response? It was a screed, forget about a lecture!

                I stand by my words regarding Sherman.

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                • KBR says:

                  Joe, there are some pretty horrible things about Sherman by historians. I wouldn’t make him my hero. Let the dead lie.

                  We need to come together as a nation. The South has been kicked around and insulted long enough. If we divide again it won’t likely be along the Mason Dixon this go round.

                  Want an example of what I mean about “kicked around?” My sister taught college and chose to teach in a community college (a skilled nurse could get work anywhere) when the welfare to work program started. She was much loved by her majority black students and they rewarded her with a plaque they all pitched in to buy.
                  A friend of her husband came to visit from Iowa. She made him a drink and got him some food. They sat down to talk. She hadn’t mentioned her work, and he did not know her well. He was a work friend of long standing of her husband. He immediately started mocking her southern speech. Then he started talking about how racist all the southerners are.
                  “Well bred southern women tell you to go to h377 so sweetly they’ll make you enjoy the trip.” Add high intelligence to that statement and, well let’s just say the visit was shortened, and he left with a red face. Before he did she showed him the latest photo of her with her class and the plaque they bought her, which was easy because it was proudly displayed in the entry way (or exit way in his case.)

                  Nasty way some northern men treat a southern lady is a shame. We of the south have so many of those experiences it would amaze you. And make you feel bad too.

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                  • Joe says:

                    KBR, Sherman predicted that if the south started this war then the slaughter would be beyond what all others were predicting. They did and it was. And for what? Slavery?! Come on KBR, you can’t possibly defend the results of that just outcome. Think about it, maybe just maybe that was a terrible reason to rebel. Not exactly 1776ish. Where is your compassion for the whipped, beaten and enslaved?

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                • georgiafl says:

                  No, it was not a screed. A screed is an attack. I am telling the truth.
                  You were praising Sherman, I countered with the truth about him. That is not a screed. I did not attack you. I merely disagreed.

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                  • KBR says:

                    I wrote a reply to your insulting comment about my “lack of compassion.” Maybe it will show up. Maybe not. You, Joe are one of those Yankees we call Dam* Yankees: Don’t know when to shut up. Find your own link. My research is of many years and references you couldn’t begin to find. You are utterly wrong. The man was evil. He is now burning in the deepest pit of Hell.

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              • Amazing, georgiafl, I was just about to tell Joe that we don’t need his lectures and you beat me to it. Don’t waste your time arguing with this troll.

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          • Pinkie says:

            He made Georgia howl!

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          • This is a stupid arguement. The South was wrong wrong wrong on everything that lead up to the war. Starting with imposing the Fugitive Slave act on the North. If the South really believed in states rights then Northerns had the right to tell the South if they can’t keep there unpaid workers on the plantations don’t expect the North send them back. The south paid for it’s foolishness, and pay they did. I am not going to fight the lost cause again. Southern are some of the nicest people I know and the bravest also.

            I hope when President Trump rebuilds the military most of the generals are just like William Tecumseh Sherman.

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      • KBR says:

        Alan Stang — Sherman: Racist, Terrorist, Monster
        http://www.newswithviews.com/Stang/alan201.htm

        The site is by Alan Stang, the book is by a rather distinguished author and historian. Look a link, so you won’t have to work hard for your source.!
        History Channel??? Bwahahaha
        Hey did you see the latest historical account of “Ancient Aliens?”

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    • feralcatsblog says:

      William Tecumseh Sherman’s warning: “The people of the South didn’t know what they were doing. The country would be drenched in blood, and God only knew how it would end. It was all folly, madness, a crime against civilization! The people of the South spoke so lightly of war; they didn’t know what they were talking about. War is a terrible thing! They mistook, too, the people of the North. They were a peaceable people but an earnest people, and they would fight, too. They were not going to let this country be destroyed without a mighty effort to save it. Besides, where were your men and appliances of war to contend against them? The North could make a steam engine, locomotive, or railway car; hardly a yard of cloth or pair of shoes could you make. You rushed into war with one of the most powerful, ingeniously mechanical, and determined people on Earth — right at your doors. You were bound to fail. Only in your spirit and determination were you prepared for war. In all else you were totally unprepared, with a bad cause to start with. At first you would make headway, but as your limited resources began to fail, shut out from the markets of Europe as you would be, your cause would begin to wane. If your people would have but stopped and thought, they would have seen in the end that they would surely fail.”

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  6. chasingfacts says:

    SD
    There is a you tube video of Ross Perot, who back in the 90’s was warning on Nafta, the big sucking sound….of jobs.
    but one in particular he describes the Mexican agreement and notes the secret room to which Congressman had to go to read it- no one allowed to know what was in it. But some shocking facts surrounding that agreement- how much it sounds like this TPP 6 minutes

    Comex Joe Perot:Free trade means a weak America.

    Disturbing to realize all this has come true…

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  7. coltlending says:

    You’re exactly right Sundance.

    As a country that made our own stuff, we got a long fine before our jobs got shipped out of the country and we’ll be OK when we get back to making things again.

    The way things have been rigged, a small group of people in our country that don’t give a shit about our society have had a license to print money, allowing them to buy off politicians and buy second and third homes where some of the rooms in those homes the owner hasn’t stepped in in years.

    I don’t begrudge the accumulation of wealth, but I got a problem with a crony-capitalistic system rife with monopolization and no competition where corporatists and gangbanksters reap profits that get parked outside the USA and loses are pushed on to the middle class via Q.E.x

    Bring back manufacturing.
    Break up the big banks.
    Re-establish an anti-monopolization policy.
    Get the government and IRS off of everybody’s back and put Americans back to work again.
    Establish a flat-tax
    Welfare to Workfare.

    Why the hell should we be building China or any other country at this point.

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  8. Kelly Moncus says:

    Thirty years ago China’s people were ass deep squatting in rice paddies dotting the countryside and satellite photos taken at night were nearly as stark as North Korea is today. What happened, Clinton and Hilarry sold us down the Yangtze River and probably 20 million manufacturing jobs to date and have since put the theft of State Secrets on Steroids thru their Sham Clinton Foundation !

    WWIII will break out if Hilarry is elected but might be averted if we get the 2016 election right. I pray we do.

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  9. budmc says:

    Seems I remember Bill Clinton saying that with NAFTA the jobs we would lose would be low paying jobs but we would gain more skilled jobs that would be higher paying. BS

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  10. Jett Black says:

    In heb’s eyes, i see admiration, fear, and a longing to be half the man Trump is, or even the son of half the man Trump is. Sucks to be son of a minor demon, standing next to an archangel.

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  11. Pinkie says:

    Trump displayed an impressive grasp of current events and ability to counterpunch on the fly. He is very good at this. But poor Jeb was probably correct on the substance. Protectionist tariffs would hurt a company like Boeing, which exports 80% of its products. As the article but Sundance links to makes clear, the Chinese are not insisting that Boeing build a plant in China; rather
    Boeing no longer has support from the import export bank and cannot compete against state state subsidized Enterprises like Airbus. Every situation is different.

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    • yohio says:

      Where do you not get then that this makes the words forced to build in China apply? They are almost being left with no choice, and in this case forced is the right word.

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  12. chilloutyo says:

    In business school they teach that it is better for consumers to buy foreign manufactured products because they are cheaper. What they don’t teach is that, when the entire US manufacturing base is foreign, the displaced American workers have no replacement jobs that need their skills. When American workers are permanently displaced, they do not have income to pay taxes. Some actually start to consume taxes in the form of welfare. Trump is right. We need to balance our manufacture imports/exports against the permanent costs of American unemployment.

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  13. dondeg says:

    Extremely well said, Sundance. Nothing I can add. I posted a pic of an abandoned Detroit factory in another thread.

    The thing that caught me in the debate was the Trump-Bush exchange on Trump’s temporary Muslim ban. Jeb is adamantly opposed to this because it would cut into his family’s business. I wish Trump would have called him out on this. Might have been the final blow to send Yebby sinking below the waves.

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    • I think Trump is stocking a LOT of ammo. I predict that it will be used to take out Jeb – virtually from all of politics – when Jeb unleashes his dogs of war on Trump.

      Trump tends not to hit – he HITS BACK. Foreign governments are already taking note of Trump, and figuring out how to live in a future where mutually beneficial deals are the only ones you get – otherwise you get a rain of sorrow.

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      • dondeg says:

        Which is exactly what we need. What the heck is wrong with having fair deals anyway?

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        • I know! One would THINK this was obvious! I chalk it up to Robin Hood gaslighting. Cultural memes that cast suspicion on all forms of success, and heroism on all forms of theft. Yup. Hard to improve on “fair”.

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          • dondeg says:

            It’s all a package to create a psychology of failure. Older people grew up in a different world and know better. The youngins have only grown up with this polluted mindset. There is a convergence of forces here and, to my eye, they have one main target: The US Constitution. This document is the anti-thesis to so much of history, which is always some form of tyranny or another. We either teach the kids why our Constitution is important or they have to go through the pain and learn on their own. Obviously, all rational people prefer to teach them.

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  14. PatriotKate says:

    Scott Adams – Dilbert Blog
    He disagrees on what was the most profound moment and it involved the NY values exchange. All about Empathy.
    http://blog.dilbert.com/post/137375194651/the-biggest-trump-story-that-you-missed-master

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    • georgiafl says:

      Scott Adams is wrong about Trump not showing empathy – Trump has shown empathy with vets, victims of crimes by illegals, and persecution of Christians in Syria and elsewhere, empathy for workers, people driven from their jobs by cheap foreign labor and many other issues affecting Americans.

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      • Trump shows “tough love”. Those of us who’ve been beaten around by time, history, and our own government and countrymen, to say nothing of distant powers, know what it looks like, and we flock to it.

        Rescue is an act of compassion. Anybody who has ever yelled, screamed, barged or ordered to save somebody’s life knows what I’m talking about.

        Scott needs to imagine the boss of bosses who sneaks into town as the pizza delivery guy. He sees Dilbert at home alone, staring into the TV, wondering why Wally hasn’t been showing up at work. Alice shaking her head alone in the cubicle, when her work is stolen and put back in front of her as a foreign product. Ashok furious when he meets his sister’s new boyfriend – a lying scumbag who overstayed his visa and makes fun of “idiots” who play by the rules.

        The boss who not only tells pointy-haired boss that HE’S fired, but goes to Washington and says it’s time to stop the madness for ALL of us.

        Patton. Give us Patton. The Patton of Main Street.

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      • notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital says:

        AGREED. Scott Adams is a UNIPARTY troll

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      • Duchess says:

        Remember the photo of him touching the face of a wounder warrior at a recent rally? It said volumes to me. Empathy was one.

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  15. WSB says:

    I was a new assistant designer on the Great Wall Hotel in Beijing in 1982. The Chinese stole plans (used to build other hotels), concrete (amazing, since they commmunized, they didn’t have factories worthy of an international standard), and any other thing they could to scam the the joint venture in which they were engaged. They strong armed and shafted their way to unequal advantage every time.

    It still happens today. The reason? Simple. A communist country does not have freedom of thought, so the citizens are not encouraged to create and the government can only steal genius, not inspire it.

    Trump’s correct, though. We have so much leverage over them. We could have them at their knees competively. We now owe them more than they can withstand to bear losing.

    If Trump can create the environment for domestic manufacturing to come back to the US, They will be in trouble, really ARE a paper tiger, and we may be able to squeeze them though trade starvation to implode North Korea.

    It’s a matter of chess, and winning. Trump knows how to do that in his sleep.

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    • notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital says:

      Yes we need to do to Communist China what Reagan did to the Communist USSR.

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    • rashamon says:

      That must have been a fascinating job if only for the cultural experience.

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    • Linden says:

      My uncle was VP of Dow for Australasia for 25 years in the Orient, lived in Japan, Hong Kong, and S. Korea. At the end of his stint, I asked him who he trusted the most. He said “Japan”, but the ink would not be dry on a contract with the Chinese before they would be going behind the company’s back and cheating like hell. Completely unscrupulous and ruthless. And that was almost always my experience doing business in HK as well. They will steal anything not nailed down. The “gaigin” is always fair game.

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      • WSB says:

        ‘They will steal anything not nailed down.” That’s about it! Quite an adventure he must have had. This is why no one else in the pack other than Trump can right our ship. You can feel his frustration about the precarious ‘mess’ we’ve been duped into.

        Just as Tump has completely commandeered critical issues for the US, He will be as masterful handling all the bad actors around the world. Divine providence.

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  16. Robert What? says:

    And this is precisely why the Republican establishment and their lackies hate Trump.

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  17. tz says:

    Boeing is a bad example or an example of bad, but note how the GOPe wants to revive the Export Import crony Bank? Over half is Boeing.
    Trump’s proposals are merely the ExIm bank on steroids.

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  18. Reblogged this on kommonsentsjane and commented:

    Reblogged on kommonsentsjane.

    This is the problem in our government – these professional politicians, lawyers, and lobbyists have no idea how to solve problems. We have to elect a businessman who really know what is going on in the business world as was evident on the stage when Trump and Bush were sparing about China. Bush didn’t have a clue.

    kommonsentsjane

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  19. It’s important to realize, Trump has repeatedly said: TARIFF’S ARE NEVER GONNA HAPPEN.
    Tariffs, according to Trump, should be ON-the-table to use as LEVERAGE for America against China. Trump believes if he tells China they MUST remove their trade barriers, and begin behaving properly, or face tariffs as RETRIBUTION, THEY WILL. I believe that too.
    Look at tariffs as a police officer choosing to carry a firearm. TARIFFS are a tool of last resort, a weapon to insure politeness, and pleasant conversation, backed by FORCE, to be used ONLY when all other options are gone.
    There’s a reason why the First Amendment is 1st, and the Second Amendment, 2nd… The 1st guarantees you the right to speak, the 2nd guarantees, ultimately, if all else fails: you will be listened to.
    TWO OUTCOMES:
    1. Trump succeeds, the Chinese back down, lower their trade barriers, combat IP theft, etc, American exports boom, (they begin buying OUR stuff) and OUR trade deficit vanishes. THIS IS GOOD FOR US. GOOD FOR THEM. GOOD FOR THE WORLD. 95% CHANCE.
    2. Trump fails, (less likely, 5% CHANCE) the Chinese will not listen. We slap tariffs on their goods. Billions in Tax revenues flow into our coffers, the Chinese economy collapses, Chinese factories close, replaced by competitors in America, Japan, Mexico, Singapore, Brazil, ETC… The end result should be very little cost to the American consumer. AND China ECONOMICALLY obliterated.
    A trade war with China will hurt THEM far more than it hurts us, AND hopefully for THEIR sake does not happen.
    Remember, just 20 years ago Chinese people were STARVING, America was doing fine. We do not need China for cheap iPhones, Apple could move its factories to many places.
    The Chinese economy does not work without US, period. This is the message: we have leverage over them, we need to USE our leverage to fix China, and North Korea.

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