Post GOP Debate Thoughts and Analysis…

Disclaimer: Your opinion on the debate performances are far more valid than mine.  My perspective is skewed because I’m looking through a filter of how Wall Street RNC/GOPe and DNC interests will view and perceive the debate performances.

GOP candidates mashup

Baseline – Going into the debate all the candidates, other than Trump, had something to gain and little to lose.  Donald Trump had everything to lose and little to gain.  With that in mind:

carly fiorina 2Carly Fiorina will most likely be represented to the public as the “winner” by the professional legacy media structures.  New York and Park Row will advance a specific pro-Carly meme; in part out of necessity for their financial overall objectives and interests.

However, for the high-information voter, all of the 30-second talking points -which will be highlighted as reasoning for her great performance- were really just repetition of well-rehearsed sound bites we have heard before.

None, absolutely NONE, of the Carly applause lines were original.  Fiorina has used each and every one of them before in the exact same word and sentence structure.

The visibly negative aspect to Carly’s performance was her zealously in delivering those well-rehearsed points; increasingly evident in her interruptions to present them.  Seven times in the first 3/4 of the debate Carly was exclaiming “jake”, “jake”…. or “Dana”, “Dana”,… in her effort to deliver them.  It was simply too much.  And was also transparently obvious based on twitter recognitions therein.

However, for the lower information voter it was probably less noticeable.

jeb bushJeb Bush did terribly.  Like Fiorina when he was given the time for his script he sounded just like he did when he was in the bathroom rehearsing them at home.

However, when he was not on script he seemed small and wonky.  If there was a loser in the debate it would probably be Jeb because he needed to get back some of his polled loses; he didn’t.

From a Wall Street perspective Jeb Bush did not deliver the goods, and that doesn’t portend well for his long term considerations.   Those who are financing his campaign have been given assurances; those assurances are not being met.

Anticipate static Jeb polling or perhaps even lower polling moving forward.

Ben carsonBen Carson also suffered a bit from seeming small against the backdrop.  It would not be a surprise to see some of Carson’s “outsider” but anti-vulgarian support, (especially the lower information  and emotional voter), jump ship and land on Team Carly giving her a modest lift.

Obviously either Carson or Fiorina will work well for the current needs of the Wall Street Jeb crews.  They don’t really care which person fits the bill, just get Trump’s coalition split ASAP is all they require.

[ Expect Karl Rove to soften his approach of favorability toward Carson, and begin to lift up Fiorina.  It will be subtle but the objectives with each are the same. ]

In essence, Carson held his own, but didn’t advance himself.

marco_rubio_hiresMarco Rubio did well.  Like Fiorina he’s well scripted for 30-60 second sound bites based on all of his media appearances where short direct points are an asset.

However, on the down-side he sounded more like he was applying for Secretary of State or President of the 2016 U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

For some reason Rubio’s nervousness comes across on TV.  When he’s comfortable with the topic he’s on message and sharp; however, when he’s uncomfortable his delivery is awkward and bothersome.

Scott Walker didn’t advance nor damage his cause.  Unfortunately given his 3, 2, 2, 5, 1 results in the last five polls, he did not provide a solid reason he should be polling higher.

Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee and Ohio Governor John Kasich took the high-road as expected, but were essentially invisible amid the issues of the day.  They presented themselves as typical Republican brand holders.

Rand Paul needed a good debate and while he made some good points in a general sense, he gave the impression of phoning it in.  Overall no substantive benefit from the debate.  Also, Rand Paul tweeted out in the later commercial break for a fundraising drive to “help him finish”.  It appeared awkward at best.

Ted Cruz didn’t appear to have as much time to respond perhaps due to the structure which was heavily weighted to use “Trump said _____” to question the other candidates.  Because there’s been no substantive disagreements between Donald Trump and Ted Cruz, this format decision put him on the losing end of debate time.

Chris Christie also did well; actually, none of the candidates did “badly”.  The polling support that Jeb or the other establishment candidates may lose will probably go to Chris Christie.   Oddly, Christie was able to come off as more conservative in this debate.  I somewhat expect a bit of a bounce from this coalescing anomaly to head to Christie.

donald trump smirkThis leaves Donald Trump – the candidate who had everything to lose and nothing to gain.

He maneuvered his way through the debate well despite the framework of the questions which were transparently structured to have the other ten candidates, sans Cruz, attack him.

Unpredictable Trump was again remarkably able to be unpredictable Trump; and in doing so he solidifies an oddly appealing authenticity.   Because he was able to navigate the various angles of incoming, and simultaneously express non-political authenticity, he exits the debate unscathed.

The final question/answer by Donald Trump was excellent and summed up his candidacy:  “Actions speak louder than words – what you heard tonight was a lot of words, what I will deliver is action“.

Specifically because Trump exits unscathed, he also wins.

Consequences – As a direct result of the RNC/GOPe collective inability to destroy Donald Trump we can expect to see Joe Biden enter the Democrat side of the race within the next 10-days.

Wall Street was hoping for Trump to be taken down tonight – they didn’t get that; and now they can’t wait much longer….. Wall Street cannot risk Trump -VS- Clinton where they are holding the weaker side of the coin in Hillary.

Biden and Hillary

ps. Three Hours is TOO LONG!  I have a hunch many viewers tuned out after hour 2.


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1,000 Responses to Post GOP Debate Thoughts and Analysis…

  1. doodahdaze says:

    The funny is that the entire establishment is backing Fiorina hard, at the same time selling her as an anti-establishment candidate. They all are gone looney. Is anyone going to buy this swampland?

    Liked by 3 people

  2. Truthfilter says:

    I can’t find a video anywhere of Trump’s question and answer session tonight. It’s odd because I can always find his rallies. If anyone finds a link to this event, please post it here.

    Liked by 1 person

  3. nwtex says:

    Latinos share why they’re voting for Donald Trump

    Sep 16th 2015 11:26AM

    […] As it turns out, Trump has garnered a significant amount of support from within the Latino community in the United States. Several Latino people took to Whisper, the popular app that provides an anonymous platform for people to share their most honest thoughts, to speak out about why they support Donald Trump for president.|htmlws-main-bb|dl21|sec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D-308816924

    Liked by 1 person

    • auscitizenmom says:

      Interesting to read those comments. It is obvious that misquoting works. Some of the commenters said that Trump had said that “immigrants” are rapists and killers. That is why La Raza, etc. don’t like to use the work illegal. They want the discussion to be confused so that people think we are talking all immigrants.


  4. Truthfilter says:

    We all knew this question would come up–the question of Obama’s religious leanings. Countless Americans believe Obama may lean toward Islam. I can’t believe someone hasn’t asked Trump about Obama’s citizenship yet.


  5. kinthenorthwest says:

    Until this I would said not bad, not a bad lady.
    This is what totally turned me off Carly TOTALLY


  6. justfactsplz says:

    The debate was pretty predictable for me. it was what I expected. Trump came through and hasn’t lost anything. Bring on Biden, Trump can handle it.

    Liked by 2 people

  7. pappy says:

    I did watch the debate, a joke. Nothing more than an attack on Trump


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