“Baltimore Six” To Have Trial in Baltimore – Activist Judge Rules Against Change of Venue…

Activist Judge Barry Williams gave activist Prosecutor Marilyn Mosby a big assist in her goal to convict six Baltimore police officers.  Williams ruled against a venue change motion while saying there’s no evidence they will be unable to seat an impartial jury.

The pre-trial hearings continue this afternoon.

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(Via Baltimore Sun) A Baltimore Circuit Court judge ruled Thursday morning that the trials of six police officers charged in the arrest and death of Freddie Gray will stay in Baltimore, saying the defense had failed to prove that the officers cannot receive a fair trial in the city.

“The citizens of Baltimore are not monolithic,” Judge Barry Williams said in his ruling. “They think for themselves.”

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Williams heard arguments from defense attorneys who said that intense media coverage and this week’s surprise multi-million dollar settlement with Gray’s family, along with fear of future unrest, created an atmosphere in which jurors would be biased.

Prosecutors, however, urged that moving the case before screening potential jurors would be premature.

Williams agreed, saying it was wrong to “assume they cannot be fair” without questioning potential jurors. Williams also was unconvinced that media coverage had influenced citizens — at least not any more than residents of other jurisdictions, saying the coverage had been “local, state, national, international.”

Williams, who previously ruled that each officer should be tried individually, left open the possibility that the trials could be moved if an impartial jury panel can’t be found. The officers could also elect to bypass a jury and have Williams decide their fate.

Warren Alperstein, a defense attorney and former prosecutor who is uninvolved in the case and attended the hearing, said there was “very much” still a chance the trials could be moved.

“He’s said, ‘Let’s give it a shot, and see where it goes,'” Alperstein said. “He’s putting, certainly, a lot of faith in the citizens of Baltimore City to not bring any preconceived opinions and biases into the [jury selection] process.” (read more)

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83 Responses to “Baltimore Six” To Have Trial in Baltimore – Activist Judge Rules Against Change of Venue…

  1. amwick says:

    Does this surprise anyone?

    Liked by 3 people

  2. karnakelli says:

    And this, ladies and gentlemen, is how you create another Detroit, one corrupt black brick at a time. The white flight has already begun.

    Liked by 7 people

  3. davsel says:

    “The citizens of Baltimore are not monolithic,” Judge Barry Williams said in his ruling. “They think for themselves.”

    I don’t believe that’s how mob riots actually work.

    Liked by 16 people

  4. DeWalt says:

    The fix is in.

    Liked by 8 people

  5. Concerned says:

    Good people of Baltimore, stay until the trial so you can hope to be on the jury, and then MOVE. Baltimore is not a nice place.


  6. Concerned says:

    I’m reminded of the Zimm trial. NOTHING went his way, and yet he was acquitted. I’m not hopeful that any of these officers will be fully acquitted, but I am praying that there is one decent juror for each trial so at least the juries are hung.

    Liked by 1 person

    • DT says:

      This ruling made me feel queasy. The only good thing is when all this implodes, it will land squarely on Mosby.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Mike says:

      Z’s jurors were pretty marginal for an open and shut case in a state with a better foundation. “Give us what we want or we’ll burn the place down” deserves only one answer.


      • Indeed. And my apologies to the Rolling Stones for changing the meaning of the word “need” in the following lyrics. This change illustrates Mike’s ‘answer pretty well.

        And I went down to the demonstration
        To get my fair share of abuse
        Singin’, ‘We’re gonna vent our frustration
        If we don’t, we’re gonna blow a 50-amp fuse’
        Sing it to me, now

        (You can’t always get what you want)
        (You can’t always get what you want)
        (You can’t always get what you want)
        But if you try sometimes, well you just might find

        You get what you need


  7. TeddyOn20th says:

    Ugh. The 6 million dollars isn’t enough for this mob?

    Liked by 1 person

  8. emet says:

    Has the defense been allowed to examine the knife yet? Or has if been misplaced?


    • The Fighting Man says:

      “Uh, um, well, the sign-in logs for the property room disappeared. The video camera trained on the door malfunctioned and has not captured video since the knife was placed there. Upon audit, we can’t account for the cash, liquor, and firearms….” I would not be surprised if this happens. It has happened in FL.


    • lepanto says:

      Who had custody of Freddie Gray’s knife? Trayvon Martin’s cell phone?

      Top men.


  9. NJF says:

    Wow, can’t say I’m surprised. When CNN questions a ruling like this you know it’s bad. If they hadn’t already settled the civil suit it would be one thing. Hell, the pissy-faced mayor pretty much said “it’s about the riots stupid.”

    Well I guess at least one could argue it makes a pretty solid foundation for an appeal if necessary. That of course would depend on how competent that judge is.

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  10. Mr Scribbler says:

    No surprise. Look at Judge Williams’s record: the only thing missing is an appointment from President Historic First. He has all the qualifications necessary to ensure a win for Mosby. Baltimore is corrupt from the top down; it would be an aberration to have one particular judge stand in the way of Social Justice in that burg.

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    • Mentalist says:

      Well, I’ve talked about how judgeships for the most part are nothing but a political patronage in Maryland, and the Baltimore City Circuit Court (where this judge serves) is the biggest beneficiary. All you need to know is that Gray family attorney Billy Murphy used to a judge, and former governor Martin O’Malley’s wife Katie is a judge – both served on Baltimore City Circuit Court.

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  11. Tkim says:

    So I guess we can start referring to Baltimore,Maryland in the past tense. She had a good run.


  12. Jett Black says:

    I’m surprised and somewhat saddened by this. I do think that the riots and horrible reporting on the whole situation should have been enough to get this case pushed to another venue. However, I have to agree to some extent with the judge–despite what the LSM reporting indicated, B’more is not monolithic and the areas in which the riots occurred and the groups involved in them are a very small portion of the whole.

    Of course, there should be an appeal of this ruling and a more thorough look at the evidence presented, before this aspect is over. If further proceedings demonstrate that any of these preliminary rulings were not correct, they can also be revisited.

    Prayers up for the officers, their families, and all the other good officers everywhere who are out there on the line, upholding their oaths!

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  13. Mentalist says:

    I explained on the open thread that:

    Baltimore has been declining in population for decades;

    Residents summoned for jury duty who have been convicted of crime with a sentence longer than 6 month (felons) or have pending criminal charges with a possible sentence longer than 6 months are disqualified from jury service;

    Residents summoned for jury duty who have been a victim of a crime or know someone who has with likely be excused during the voir dire process;

    Nearly all the residents of Baltimore have been affected by this case – either by the riots or the ensuing week-long curfew; and

    Prospective jurors for criminal and civil cases come primarily from the voter rolls. This is important since only 20-28% of residents even bother to vote.

    All of this translates into a limited jury pool. Taking these factors into consideration, does anyone here think you can possibly seat enough impartial jurors from Baltimore City for 6 trials (keep in mind, that in Maryland 12 jurors are seated with 6 alternates for each case)? I think you would be hard-pressed to do so.

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    • Eskie Mom says:

      Thank you for this post, Mentalist. I was wondering about this. But do you think the prosecutor & the judge will follow these rules? I’m afraid these men & women are looking at years of hell, even if justice eventually comes.


      • Mentalist says:

        You have to first have a knowledge of the rules before you can follow them. Thus far, the State’s Attorney (Marilyn Mosby) has demonstrated a lack of understanding with regards to state and local laws pertaining to what constitutes an “illegal” knife and what is a “Terry” stop.

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    • ECM says:

      Thanks, this was informative.


    • emet says:

      And will any juror risk voting for acquittal? If the officers are acquitted, the jurors will need to promptly relocate and lay low. Their relatives will be identified and threatened/harassed.

      Liked by 2 people

    • djb914 says:

      Also, even if they are impartial, will they vote not guilty when they would live right near where the riots were and could putting themselves and their families at risk with a not guilty vote, and even friends and relatives could be unhappy at the juror, if their is what is considered an unpopular verdict which in this case would be an acquittal.

      Meaning a juror/s may say to themselves, I don’t think they are guilty, but I am not going to put myself and family at risk by acquitting the officers and/or making themselves very unpopular with even relatives, they have to live there and they don’t get security the President of the USA gets, and they might need it.

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  14. Just heard Blake say, “the city is focused on healing & peace” Um, really? Another ridiculous statement..


  15. Mentalist says:

    BTW, hat-tip to nivico who found this gem from the City Solicitor (who is appointed by the Mayor) in the Baltimore Sun. (note the bold text)


    “Rawlings-Blake said the settlement was meant to allow the Gray family and the city to move forward, and to clear the officers of civil liability as they move through the criminal process. City Solicitor George Nilson said the city wanted to finalize the settlement prior to the venue hearing because, had it announced the deal after a decision by Williams to keep the trials in Baltimore, defense attorneys could have used it to file new motions to remove the case.”

    Does anyone still think there’s a concerted effort to ensure that each of the 6 officers receive a fair trial?

    Liked by 4 people

    • janc1955 says:

      Sounds to me like Rawlings-Blake knew ahead of time that Williams intended to deny the change of venue.

      Color me unsurprised.

      Liked by 3 people

    • jc says:

      Remember the objective is justice for freddie, a fair trial is subordinate to that


    • nivico says:

      And what was especially concerning about Nilson’s statement is that he readily admits that hindering the defense in the criminal trial was a significant consideration in the negotiations between Murphy and the mayor’s Board of Estimates in the civil matter.

      Keep in mind these are the same folks who feigned ignorance about there being any crossover or conflict of interest with the prosecutor’s personal friend and attorney representing the Gray family in the civil case.


  16. Lou says:

    I don’t hold judgment that the Officers are innocent or guilty as of yet. I’m just curious how Freddy Gray’s parents received 6 million. I believe there should be an audit of everybody in the Mayor’s family. who gives away 6 million before a trial?

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  17. bofh says:

    Don’t worry. The federal Department of Just Us will oversee this to make sure that no funny business takes place during these trials. You know, funny business like an affirmative defense for the six defendants, or an accidental not-guilty verdict.


  18. Hugh Glass says:

    dat mosey she be one jivn mofo


  19. Sentient says:

    Not to skip over the plight of these officers, but if they’re convicted, it probably won’t take long for Baltimore to have exactly zero police officers. Oh well.

    Liked by 1 person

  20. Mentalist says:

    And one more thing – although judges in Maryland are appointed by the governor (and this a totally corrupt process), they have to run reelection to keep their seat on the bench. Something tells me this was in the back of Williams mind when he made the ruling to deny a change of venue for the defendants.

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  21. fred says:

    If that big payout wasn’t enough to taint the jury pool and the riots had no affect on the mentality of the potential jurors in a place where snitches get stiches then what does it take for change of venue. The black cops are accused of the worst offenses right. I’m not law savy but come on the big fix is going down. poor cops are going to get hung in public. I hope their friends in the force and other leos just plain stop responding to crime scenes. Look what they can do to you there… If I see a candidate is African American I won’t vote period. Might turn out like colin powell or this cabal in Baltimore.

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  22. tz says:

    First, dying while in police custody is a serious matter. There seem to be blue versions of Al Sharpton that cannot think the police can even make a mistake, much less do something malicious. They can. They are innocent until proven guilty, and I doubt all are guilty, especially of the overly severe charges, but how about waiting for all the evidence (the vetted evidence) to come out at trial.
    I remember I was the only one where I worked that predicted that OJ Simpson would be found “not guilty” – but I was very specific as to my reason. The evidence the jury had to consider was only that presented at the actual trial including things like the chain of custody – same mistake as here, “cops can do no wrong” including evidence technicians. So based on the actual trial, and not the media circus and other things, I said he would be found “not guilty” because there were reasonable doubts.
    Second, if the system is so corrupt, it is corrupt in all directions and the residence of Baltimore’s poorest neighborhoods are just as much the victims of the corruption. The fix is to demand truth and justice, not to protect specific tribes and victimize others.
    I’ve been complaining about the corruption at all levels of government (including police and judges) for years, but I was complaining about the corruption itself, not “how dare it zap one of its own”.
    Police are now seeing what happens when they become part of a corrupt machine – the machine that demands millions of revenue from tickets – given disproportionately based on income since the rich can defend themselves and push back – now does a cost-benefit analysis on whether to let them be ground up in the very same gears they have been throwing others in. That is the nature of corruption. It will destroy its own when they become a liability instead of an asset. They also destroy innocents along with the guilty because it is about power and money, not justice.
    Remember that Obama is not doing anything differently than Bush did, he is using the same usurped powers, putting cronies instead of advisers, avoiding true battles of justice and right and wrong – Anyone can take out the corruption in the seat of power, they simply need to hit the off switch, disconnect it, and throw it away. But once they sit down, they never seem to get around to doing it, and they all use it “just a little more” than their predecessor. Does anyone think Jeb Bush would fix any of this? Ron Paul would have done so. I’m skeptical of most of the field.


    • JeremyR says:

      IIRC, Simpson was found not guilty because of a poor jury pool. Interviews with the jurors confirmed that they did not consider the evidence.
      I happen to agree that some of the officers should be disciplined. Murder is not the correct charge, and I do not want to see any of them rail roaded. Had they followed procedure, Gray would have been strapped in and we would not be talking about it today. Even the old procedure required them to belt him.
      I do not for a minute believe there was intent on the part of those officers to harm Gray. Instead, what I see is the same thing as when you have a small child in a vehicle and do not buckle them up. Had Gray just laid there on the floor, he would have had a bumpy ride with no other result. I don’t believe he tried to hurt himself either, but he was cuffed, and when he tried to stand, he placed himself in a very bad position where even a routine stop at an intersection was going to toss him.
      As for the settlement money, it should go to all the business owners who suffered losses during the riots. His family should get a bouquet of flowers and a nice vase.

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      • You’re reply is very good. However, you forget one variable. Gary. . Even when incarcerated, these guys(and gals) will do and say things that are unimaginable to you or I.

        One example, in a prison in NY that I know of, some staff did not understand why this one inmate was not allowed untensils and had to eat by himself to keep him away from everyone else’s utensils. This is cruel, this is inhumane, how dare you treat him they said. The guards said, if you give him a utensil, he will eat it. He always does, whether it is metal or plastic. The other staff did not believe the guards and gave the inmate a spoon. They then got to watch the guy EAT THE SPOON and then have to be taken to the hospital yet again to have it removed. The guy wanted out of the prison and this was the only way he could think of.

        Maybe a poor example but I have heard way too many stories like this one over the years. I stopped disbelieving a long time ago. You can’t make this up.

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      • “I happen to agree that some of the officers should be disciplined.”

        Really? You base this opinion on evidence?


        • JeremyR says:

          I base it on the FACT that the old policy required belting transportees. That was linked early on. The officers did not follow procedure. If they had, we would not be talking about this and even if Grays injuries were self inflicted, which I do not believe, had he been secured, he could not have hurt himself, at least not fatally.
          The evidence I have seen supports the theory that he was attempting to get up onto the bench when the vehicle changed speed or direction causing him to fall. It is the same thing that happens when children are allowed to roam free in a vehicle. I have seen those kinds of catastrophes. A detainee who is cuffed has about as much chance as a two year old roaming free in a car.
          You are entitled to your opinion. Am I also entitled to mine?


          • nivico says:

            …seat belts were discretionary under the prior policy.

            And I’d still love to know who rewrote the decades old policy and had the discretionary language removed… that it happened three months into the new SA’s reign, I suspect she had a hand in retooling the policy into a personal injury attorney’s wet dream. That her personal friend and attorney was the first to benefit from the rewrite raises even more suspicion.

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          • art tart says:

            JeremyR ~ I agree w/both of your comments for the reasons/evidence you state. imo, absolutely none of the Officer’s had any intention of harming Gray, but there was a way to gurantee he would get to the Station safely.

            I’ve always thought the seat belt issue wasn’t an accusation that the Defense could overcome, the van had seat belts in it as was linked in the last thread. Batt’s immediaately took “responsibility for negligence” for the City because Gray should have been seat belted. (Was Batt’s helping Rawlings-Blake set up her award to the Gray family?)

            What I don’t know is who was ultimately responsible for putting Gray in the seat belt, I have read several times it was Goodson’s responsibility to do so but IDK that as fact.

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            • JeremyR says:

              I don’t know either. With buses, the ultimate responsibility ends up being with the driver even when they have monitors on board. So I would guess the driver and the supervisor should be the ones here.
              What galls me in all this is that Gray’s family will get more out of his death than he would have made in his entire life eve if a judge reduces the settlement to Maryland parameters and tosses the $6.4 Million pay off.
              Smart people are leaving in droves. The community is devolving into Detroit on the coast.


  23. itsy_bitsy says:

    Think those cops will live to see a verdict? Well the white ones I mean, the blacks probably will! Heck, they’ll probably drop all charges against the black officers, even though it was a black officer that slammed Gray into the door!


  24. Elspeth says:

    The gutter family of this “victim” has already been paid off. This judge is just enjoying getting one over on whitey.


  25. angie says:

    Does Judge Williams’s decision make it easier to appeal a possible guilty verdict due to pre-trial publicity and Williams’s refusal to move the trial?


  26. Tkim says:

    Trying these officers separately already guaranteed that race will be 90% of the discussion, the argument, and the posturing in Baltimore. And with that comes the chaos. And the corruption. And the loss of the last vestige of Constitutional fairness.

    This is not about a drug dealer who died in police custody. This is justice perched on the edge of an abyss. How do we come back from this?

    Liked by 4 people

    • benzy says:

      And there is NO way you want to be the sixth trial. The prosecution will have learned SOOOO much from the previous five. What the juries believed, what they didn’t. What to leave out, what to put in… how to question the witnesses (mostly the same witnesses in each case).. plus the added fact that the jury for trial six will know what the verdicts were in each of the previous five cases.

      Liked by 4 people

  27. Ruckweiler says:

    Am not a lawyer but can a change of venue denial be appealed?


  28. Dr. Bogus Pachysandra says:

    Just look at the smug look on that “Judge’s” face!


  29. Roger Flagg says:

    Monolithic? I think not. Results from the last election disclose this voting pattern:

    Overall, Baltimore City went for President Obama 87 percent to just 11 percent for Romney.
    In fact, the official results show there are 17 city precincts — out of 294 — where Mitt Romney got just one vote. And in Ward 8, Precinct 4 – which is at the Harford Heights Elementary School on Broadway, just North of North Avenue – 207 people voted, and Barack Obama got 207 votes.

    That’s well balanced diversity right there.

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  30. Just Sayin says:

    Everyone is afraid of what might cause further protests. If we don’t give the people who want to destroy things some room to do that, who knows how much worse things might get? If we don’t prosecute these pigs, the people might come back and destroy some more. If we don’t pay the lady, the people might protest again. If we change venue, they might really effin’ protest and really light some stuff up. And we better darn well make sure the pigs get convicted, because you know what kind of bad ship will happen if we don’t.

    When all the other major policy makers in this drama are all wound up about making the people happy so that they don’t protest and burn down a lot of ship, why would anyone suppose that the trial judge isn’t also taking that into account when he rules on these motions? Better keep the case here or there’ll be heII to pay.

    Reversable error? In that environment? I’d have to think so.


    • djb914 says:

      If there is a riot, why has no one in history thought of flying a military plane overhead and dropping nerve gas on the rioters? that would stop the riots fast, of course there would be some innocents that would be harmed as well, so we probably wont do that, but the people who riot are likely the kind of people that are a burden to society why not eliminate a few thousand of them?


      • Millwright says:

        We have lots of ways to control rioters that are “less than lethal”. Some involved projecting heat rays. Others sound. One I particularly like is a super slippery (polymer ? ) making movement or even standing almost impossible. Vehicles don’t move on it either. Works on pavement or grass, too !


  31. djb914 says:

    Since the cops clearly seem to be being railroaded, I wonder if a Presidential candidate says if I am elected those cops would get a pardon by me if they are convicted, would that help or hurt the candidate?? it would give them my vote anyways.

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  32. John Galt says:

    “The citizens of Baltimore are not monolithic,” Judge Barry Williams said in his ruling. “They think for themselves.”

    Right. http://www.abc2news.com/news/state/obama-won-one-100-of-the-votes-in-one-baltimore-city-precinct

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  33. BobNoxious says:

    This all that guarantees a new trial on appeal, should they lose originally- and sadly, given Baltimore’s history these six don’t stand a chance. There’s so much irony in this case, but I think the claim by the judge that these officers will receive a fair trial in Baltimore city takes the cake, and then some.

    By the way, has there been an official update on the status of the knife?

    I’m assuming that Judge pussed out and kicked it to the eventual jury to decide- a cowardly move that would be highly inappropriate likely taking out of the eventual jurors hands via an emergency appellate motion on behalf of the defendants ( admittedly, I’m not fully up to speed on Maryland criminal procedure, so they might have a different method)- but I haven’t heard official, has anyone else?

    From my perspective, the news of the nearly $5 million settlement on behalf of Grey, along with these pretrial rulings, don’t give me much hope for these poor officers. Keep in mind, however, the settlement is not to be considered an admission of wrong-doing, guily, etc., at the criminal trial. Good luck finding 12 city jurors that will follow the law.

    It all angers me to no end!


    • art tart says:

      Bob Noxious ~ excellent comment. I never thought I would see a more egregious Judge than Debra Nelson in GZ’s case, but this is over the top.


  34. Curly Dave says:

    Where is the police union in all this?

    Individual officers have little chance of standing up against a city government which has turned against them, but the union should be putting pressure on every possible point of leverage.

    Weeks and weeks of “blue flu”.

    Who provides courthouse security? In most places it is sheriff’s deputies. what union are they from? Will they stage a slowdown in sympathy? I have a hard time believing that the police can not protect their own in this case.

    I can imagine freshly-released prisoners being taken to the Judge’s street and let go there.


  35. art tart says:

    Baltimore Mayor Rawlings-Blake says she won’t seek re-election


    I guess her last act was to reward the Gray Family w/the huge settlement.

    I guess w/the destruction of Baltimore, Rawlings-Blake realized that the destruction she contributed to allowing thugs to destroy, Marilyn/Nick Mosby contributed more to thhe destruction of the City, hopefully they’re out of jobs their next elections.


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