When you see the words “Clinton” and “Stripper” in a sentence it’s easy to get confused. However, this example is the other Clinton.
If the labeled “TOP SECRET” information ENTERED the State Department, which it did; and the same labeled “TOP SECRET” information was subsequently sent to Hillary, which it was; then how exactly did the classification of “TOP SECRET” get removed inside her private email system.
WASHINGTON DC – The latest revelations about top secret information traversing Hillary Clinton’s private email server have triggered accusations that someone in her “inner circle” likely stripped the classification markings, illegally.
The claims come after the Clinton campaign stuck to the argument that the Democratic presidential candidate, while secretary of state, never dealt with emails that were “marked” classified at the time.
“Hillary only used her personal account for unclassified email. No information in her emails was marked classified at the time she sent or received them,” campaign Communications Director Jennifer Palmieri said in a statement to supporters Wednesday.
But a State Department official told Fox News that the intelligence community inspector general, who raised the most recent concerns about Clinton’s emails, made clear that at least one of those messages contained information that only could have come from the intelligence community.
“If so, they would have had to come in with all the appropriate classification markings,” the official said.
The official questioned whether someone, then, tampered with that message. “[S]omewhere between the point they came into the building and the time they reached HRC’s server, someone would have had to strip the classification markings from that information before it was transmitted to HRC’s personal email.” (READ MORE)
I’m Sure that was the idea all along.
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The real issue is that she started the job with the intent to cover and deceive. All these other issues are a result of the initial malintent. The word is premeditated. She is done.
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Nah, posted this in another thread, bears repeating:
She will blame WikiLeaks:
From NOV 2010:
“Late last week, after Secretary of State Hillary Clinton informed the White House of the likely fall-out from the WikiLeaks cable dump, the White House came back with a question: “What’s our corrective action?”
Clinton’s undersecretary for management, Patrick Kennedy, had a simple suggestion: pull the plug on SIPRNet, the classified DoD network that PFC Bradley Manning reportedly used to download the cables from State’s inhouse classified database. “The White House said do it,” says a senior administration official.”
The TK emails should have been on JWICS. Explanation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classified_United_States_website
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do I get 3 guesses?
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I wonder who is going to get run over by the Clinton bus
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Low-Levels will be the first to go.
Humma Weiner if need be.
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I think I have the idea now. All this “investigation” kerfuffle is to get the criminal proceeding over with so that Barry can pardon Shrillary and Huma before he leaves office. This private server allowed Barry and his cohorts to communicate with Hillary (Benghazi anyone?) and avoid the paper trail and freedom of information act.
Does anyone really think Barry will allow a fellow muslim (Huma) or muslim sympathizer (Hillary) to be exposed and held legally accountable?
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IMO, this is all with Obama’s blessing. He and Hillary are not friends. Personally, I suspect that’s why she used the private server in the first place. I’m not saying Hillary is an angel (she’s not even the same candidate she was in 2008), she’s a politician like all the others (I didn’t use to know that) – but she has been working for a boss who hates her (and vice versa).
She didn’t use a private server to hurt America – I’m certain it was to protect herself from Obama (the classified documents is a separate issue, I can’t explain that!). And if the next president does better than Obama does (a potted plant could!), he doesn’t want it to be a democrat. He’s the Messiah, the “historic” black president, the savior of the democratic party. He doesn’t want his fake narrative destroyed. And he knows that Hillary won the 2008 primaries. No, he’s still working against her.
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I like your thinking there, Lorac. I can see how O wouldn’t want a Dem in next. But he’s so childish, he likely doesn’t want a Republican either! He probably has dreams of his followers doing a write-in to elect him Permanent King of Everything, Ever! We’ll have to see what happens w/ Trump & hopefully effing up the GOPe, but purely from a karmic angle, how fun is it to imagine Dr. Ben Carson in the Oval Office, quietly dismantling every one of Zero’s fiascos within his power?? Unlike our Prez, I’m not obsessed with race, so it never occurred to me how much it would pi__ Obama off to be replaced with a SUCCESSFUL black president!
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Humma Weiner knows too much. They won’t let her go down, she could cut a deal for herself, then squeal like a pig about where all the bodies are buried.
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Hillary is above the law. But her aides are not. The over/under number for Clinton aides who are indicted is 2. Personally – I am going with the over.
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they better have good security.
BTW…does HRC still have security clearance ??
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Not if the intelligence community can help it: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/aug/13/hillary-clinton-emails-intelligence-community-want/
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This is why the 55k pages of emails were printed, and not sent over to State in a .pst file. To strip metadata and classification markings. I wonder if the same email contained within the .pst file supposedly on the thumb drive matches?
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that was my question, there seems to be the presumption the markings were removed prior to Hillary having access to them, since they were all printed and AFAIK only print copies are being reviewed, isn’t it just as likely the markings were stripped some time just prior to turning them over to the state dept instead?
Not that it matters really, but seems difficult to believe someone was proactively removing the markings prior to them arriving in her inbox.
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Unless they were trying to protect her, knowing that classified docs with labels should not be sent to her and so they stripped them off.
Nothing in Clinton History suggests that anything coming out of her mouth or the mouths of her sycophants is in any way truthful.
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So how did Hillary receive classified information? In a wheel barrow?
“Mrs Clinton installed the system at her home in Chappaqua, upstate New York, and did not even have an official email address until the year she left office.”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3197093/Tech-company-maintained-Hillary-s-secret-server-sued-illegally-accessing-databases-creating-chaos-stealing-White-House-phone-numbers.html#ixzz3iwMhW4Mq
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That’s the question of the decade.
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Let me get this right, what HRC is implying is in the entire time she held the office of SoS, she never got a single classified email from anyone, not a single one. She wasn’t in the loop with the WH or anyone else in government. This sounds like John Galt’s idea above of a wheel barrow may be right but, only it being full of lama dung!
Another thought, what of the cell phone she used, how secured was that?
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Maybe it took her years to turn the emails over to State Dept. because she was busy stripping them. They can go back to origin of email to see how they were sent. Hopefully there is a Republican in Oval Office when investigation is complete.
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I have said since day one, an electronic email can be altered, printed out in hard copy and claimed to be original when in fact it is altered data. It is the only reason that Hillary Clinton had for sending hard copy email data to the State Dept.
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Off to the oven with her…
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True, but the server software knows which one came first and where it came from. As a matter of fact, the header… which is a transactional piece of information stamped to the digital footprint of the email at the time of receiving, opening, reading, forwarding, etc. cannot be changed without some pretty high level of expertise. If her people opened them up, edited them and then put them back in the mailbox for export, there is a digital transactional fingerprint on each one of them. Printing them out can mask the digital alteration but it cannot change the transactional data of their origin. Additionally, when it is forwarded, it retains the header information of the servers it passed through to get wherever it was forwarded, that includes date, time, server info, etc. If any of that was done to reproduce the “clean” emails then the emails will be clean but the headers will be extra dirty. The .pst will show time and place and route of every email. If they were “laundered” it will be easy to tell.
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Any digital file can be manipulated. Anything handed over on a “thumb drive” is suspect. It also implies there are other versions of the file. The data file format you mention can be edited to add or remove information.
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They probably don’t know that normal truth tellers don’t talk like that.
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Yeah, they left out the part about “no controlling legal authority” but maybe that is just understood at this point.
LOL
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You win the Internet today, Sharon. Hahahaha! Just like Zero’s thinking that his fumfering around with the “What I said was that you could keep your doctor IF blahblahblah, lie lie lie, other lie”.
Sometimes sociopaths AREN’T so great at feigning normal-person behavior.
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Sounds like a whole lot of Hill people need a whole lot of prison time…
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IMO, dang near every one of ’em.
The “keep” list would take far less time to create. A couple of minutes, tops.
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Wonder if she has wished at least once, that they had told the truth about Benghazi ? I hope she has a long time to sit & think about that.
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I know, right? I wonder if it EVER crosses any of their twisted little minds to come clean? The American people have shown REMARKABLE forgiveness re. her hubby’s lies. (Of course, no one was actually KILLED in their other scandals, yadayadayadaVinceFosteryadayada).
Perhaps she can have some nice pantsuits made in prison-orange? IF it ever gets that far (pretty pretty please, fingers & toes crossed!).
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If you mean Capitol Hill, I agree.
Dang near every one of ’em.
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I was watching when Megyn broke this story last night; if true it’s HUGE! Yet nobody really picked it up in the MSM. Interesting- possibly related- item: foreign policy mag just did an article this afternoon about how angry John Kerry is at members of State for all the recent leaks…. Hmm….
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Since she has claimed that she only used her personal e-mail and never used a government one – one might ask – how did you communicate about issues dealing with classified information? Telekinetics? Her argument always defied logic.
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Yes, exactly this.
“[S]omewhere between the point they came into the building”
a/k/a the internet connection
“and the time they reached HRC’s server”
1 GB/sec over a network cable
“someone would have had to strip the classification markings from that information before it was transmitted to HRC’s personal email.”
Fast worker.
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If it was sent to one of her droogs and not directly to her they could have easily removed the classified labels and forwarded it on to her. Who knows how her email was set up – possibly everything went to another masked email and not directly to her?
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You betcha
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That kind of info comes over secure comm channels/equipment. There is no connection with the regular internet. Someone would have had to get the info that way (properly marked) and then transcribed it into a non-secure email client in order for it to reach HRC’s server.
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When I read that a data center was involved I started thinking about VPN’s. Could there have been a VPN from the data center to the Clinton server? It wasn’t really necessary but certainly helpful if the data center was managing the server. Generally I would think that if you rented an entire hardware server from a data center it would be at the data center location. If they rent/sell offsite servers, do they manged them via VPN’s? Maybe the data center was involved later in the timeline and not involved during her S of S tenure
So was the Clinton server administered onsite during Clinton’s S of S tenure? That seems unlikely to me. It would most likely be administered from offsite. If there was a VPN involved in that case I don’t think you could further trace an email once it entered the VPN. Only the external IP at that entrance would be traceable. Once inside you could probably use sed to manipulate the email text on a middleman machine and send it on it’s way to Clinton’s server inside the VPN.
Basically, though, someone, somewhere should be able to trace the originating/destination IP’s. Was her server using her own provider IP or another IP, e.g. data center?
This is a ‘hey, look at the squirrel’ thing to me. I think there’s a lot more involved than some schlub going through emails and taking out classified references.
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Sure this has been here before.
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Love it every time I see it
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I’m afraid the only way for me to get excited about this controversy is for the FBI to give her an pair of bracelets.
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When you see the words “Clinton” and “Stripper” in a sentence it’s easy to get nauseated.
It seems we have the beginnings of a defense here in that some valiant staffer who will throw his/herself under the bus will take the blame for stripping the classification header, handling and distribution caveat and the classification listing from the beginning of each paragraph (it ain’t just marked at the top and bottom). In truth though that begs the question of as Secretary of State didn’t she recognize and question the information was of a sensitive enough nature to be marked in the first place? Ifyou’ve been working with a subject long enough YOU KNOW what’s classified and what ain’t. If i received a message or was expected to send a message that dealt with, let’s say, the accuracy of the Elbonian Type 3 Mud Missile and said message had no classification markings but I’d handled messages before with Elbonain Mud Missile data as classified I’d be expected to 1question the message before doing anything with it. I was also far lower in the food chain than the SecState is and was not expected to be the smartest thing that ever graced a pair of Spanx. She, not me.
Then there’s that problem that as SecState she owns all of State’s classified data and is responsible for how her underlings handle it. If she hires asses who cannot recognize classified data even though SHE (ultimate responsibility) is responsible for training them and assuring their competency, then, well…
One should think that were she able to wriggle into those pants suits she could find a more betterer way to wriggle out of this mess. Then again using a half-assed excuse to excuse half-assed improprieties seems to be a Clinton trait.
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Anything regarding Elbonian Missles would have surely raised a big red flag to somebody in one of the cubes.
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Not to my pointy-haired boss
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I agree totally
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Jeez, going to have nightmares tonight.
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Better now that November 9th, 2016
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Come on, she was just saving money on her data plan. Right wing conspiracy.
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She had AT&T too?
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Certainly not Sprint. The emails would still be downloading today.
Please wait… 22% downloaded.
Estimated wait time: 3 years, 12 days, 8 hours, 34 minutes.
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Don’t forget…”and would you like to upgrade to our premier service which gives you equally bad service but at a higher price?”
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The “throw Huma under the bus” routine… it’s an old gag, but it just… may… work.
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I really don’t understand how Lois Lerner is not in this same position. That arrogantt woman should be in jail. Heck the whole administration.
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Because the RINOs don’t want to make a fuss.
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ITA.
In a just world she would be eating off of stainless steel plates.
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When she gets thrown in jail does Bill get to keep all the money?
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Yep, and then Bill and “the Energizer” can live happily ever after.
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Hmmmmm.
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Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State for four years. 365 days in a year x 4 years is 1460 days.
Hillary states that she had approx. 51,000 emails on her server. 51,000 divided by 1460 days means that Hillary had to produce an average of 38 to 39 emails a day.
Hillary Clinton, Secretary of State, through the Reset of foreign relations with Russia, through the election of Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood President Morsi, through the coup of President El-Sisi, through the dealings with the 57 Muslim state heads in pushing through Resolution 16/18, through the planned execution of the sovereign leader of Libya, through the weapons running and through the murder of an American Ambassador and 3 American warriors, through all that, Hillary never sent or received classified information from or on her personal server.
Not plausible.
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“Not plausible.”
Hillary has been getting away with unmitigated BS for decades.
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Too bad she didn’t have a SCIF in her home, on her govt plane, and other government provided means of sending and receiving secure communications and having secure conversations as Secretary of State. Oh wait, she did and we know she tried to use it at least once because she was emailing Huma asking how to make the secure fax work. She obviously didn’t use it enough to know how to establish a secure connection.
I wouldn’t be surprised, however, that as bad as all this is the real purpose of clintonemail.com was to hide her incompetence and corruption from the WH which was working until her vaunted cleaners missed a couple of flagrant screwups.
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Very interesting point that she did it to hide things from Barry.
What kind of things do you think she would have been hiding?
Corruption is kind of in vogue in Barry’s WH so it must have been something else?
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“One should think that were she able to wriggle into those pants suits she could find a more betterer way to wriggle out of this mess. Then again using a half-assed excuse to excuse half-assed improprieties seems to be a Clinton trait.”
She will say that she gave explicit instructions to her staff. She will say she told them…”I do not want to see any classified information on that server…”. Somehow, they took that literally…
So then we will have to define what “do not want to see …” actually means, right?
While that is playing out, Old Bil should get himself a good Cuban cigar or 2, buy her a nice Blue dress, pop a couple viagra, then reminisce on better times gone by with closed eyes while preparing his SS detail schedule for Sunday visits to Leavenworth.
Heh…Bobblehead nuerological conditions need therapy too. Carson might even agree.
I think she will be toast on this one. There are only so many ways to defy logic. She has about used them all up at this point. Nothing left but a plea of insanity…..Which might actually work.
Do I push the envelope on this one? Maybe…If so, Mods feel free to slap me…..But a (visual) picture is worth a 1000 words.
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She will come through this unscathed.
Lanny Davis and the rest of the girls can’t wait to pull the lever for her.
LOL
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How anyone could consider her a potential US President is beyond me.
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Me either. But then, I think just the whole setting-up-a-private-email-with-a-private-server thing should have made people suspicious of her. Guess it’s just more of that “magical thinking” that Proggies engage in.
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”I do not want to see any classified information on that server…”
“Who will rid me of this troublesome priest?” — Henry II, 1170
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Good one….
I was thinking along the lines of The Red Queen of Alice in Wonderland—–“Off with their Head(ers)”—-
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ABC News Reports: Hillary Asked to Borrow Book About Deleting E-Mails
Read more at http://politichicks.com/2015/08/abc-news-reports-hillary-asked-to-borrow-book-about-deleting-e-mails/
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Presupposes that she takes time out of her busy and entitled day to actually read.
Don’t think so.
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If they were sent as top secret, they’d be received as top secret. If they were encrypted, even better – the source server that it was sent from should be able to retrieve the logs. This is child’s play. I’d expect archived emails and logs. Even if she could remove info on her email server … email has a source and destination… she’s only one of the 2.
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And here comes “the train” ! This press release serves a very, very important purpose. It establishes “an element of doubt”; a hole card to be played only in case of need, (i.e. if she gets charged). And, given the history of the Clintons, someone is already being set up to be the “fall guy” ; figuratively for sure and possibly literally. If I were part of Ms. Clinton’s staff during her SD tenure I’d be seeking a medium able to connect me with Vince Foster for hints on possible MOs.
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HRC is lying awake right now. Lots of worries! Bill is, well, maybe lying awake, too. He is so ambivalent about HRC’s predicament. He wants to be back in the WH but he hates her so bad, he can’t imagine taking orders from her and from her minions. So, what to do?
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Interesting musings there, Nomad! I guess the best we peons can do is to just assume they are BOTH LYING. 😉
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In separate houses…. Hillary on the mattress that hides the real server and the real thumbdrive
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Hillary is skating on some mighty thin ice and things are just warming up.
Judge Wants Hillary’s PERSONAL Emails–Intelligence Wants Her Security Clearance Suspended
http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2015/08/judge-wants-hillarys-personal-emails.html
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Where’s global warming when you need it??
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Trump fired global warming.
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The very fact that she is suspected of intelligence malpractice is just cause to remove any clearance she has. It’s not a question of what someone wants. It’s black and white.
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Yes indeedie – technically, during her next background investigation (every 5-years for federal employment, at the SES level, it may even be more frequent) – she will have to answer to the background investigator TRUTHFULLY regarding all instances where discrepancies exist regarding computer use, classified documents, etc. Boy, I bet those investigators have some good stories to tell about most of these federal employees.
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I was wondering about this…if she still had clearance.
espionage, treason, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence…and she still has security clearance ??
and is seriously campaigning for POTUS ..!
and there actually are people who still support her …!
dangerous.
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Yeah, support her because “it’s time for a woman president.” Same for that roving disaster iCarly. How about supporting the BEST leader????
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OK, let’s just say Americans are stupid enough to believe Hillary had no idea she was reading top secret material. Are we to remain conveniently stupid to believe Hillary Clinton is so ignorant that she wasn’t reading classified material? OK, let’s go with the “stupid attacks” OK? Hillary Rodham Clinton is therefore “too stupid” to serve in any other capacity in the White House than “Information Desk Attendant!” As Secretary of State, she is “responsible for everything that does and does not happen” in her office. She and everyone working under her must be held accountable, no matter which cookie monster ate the classification markings.
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This BS excuse doesn’t clear Hillary Clinton’s path to the WH. If she latches onto this excuse, she is effectively admitting she did not effectively run the State Department for her entire time in office. Combine that with the fact that she accomplished nothing and what are you left with? Democrat Campaign Bumper Sticker: Vagina For President
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Any GOP candidate that announces he/she will investigate and flush all the Obama/Alinskiite radicals out of our government system will win the nomination and the presidency!
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She’s guilty, The End. She sold states secrets to whomever & the money went to the CLINTON foundation. Or received other big favors, she’s guilty.. I would be thrilled to see her charged & sentenced to prison, hey maybe she should get Martha’s number & put it on speed dial, lol
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I might be stupid but how is deliberate erasure of emails on her server, which is clearly suspect of having classified information…not tampering with evidence?
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My focus is on Huma, or any other “aide” of Billary’s.
I believe when the chips are down, and real political/professional purgatory is at stake, they would turn on the DevilWoman faster than a set of flashy rims disappearing from the parkinglot at a 50cent concert (or faster than it took for 50cent to recently file bankruptcy after the exposure of a sex tape).
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Not a legal mind here, but can’t they charge her right now with obstruction of justice, or obstruction of a criminal investigation? Seems to me they could make that stick with no effort at all, then go after her for more serous crimes.
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Platte River Networks Clinton email handler executive is a Fox TV regular
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/74514
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If anything ever comes of Hillary being investigated and charged with something then I’ll believe it. Until then, it’s all just tough talk.
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I know right?
I gave up on getting excited when it comes to Hiklary being held accountable. Hillary could murder someone and get away with it.
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If Hillary did this she is stupid.
Anyone can tell by the looking at the headers. Ever send an email and look at the headers? Google it. You find lots of info about the e-mail.
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I don’t think they stripped it, I think she is lying- I know SHOCKER!! Her plan was to be deceitful, run her back channel wars on Libya and Syria, use that server to communicate, then destroy it.
“Check”
Check”
Check”
“Check”
What she didn’t realize, because arrogance often causes blindness, is that Obama was never on board with her being elected.
So now she finds herself in trouble. Obama is sending people after her- something she never saw coming. And if she threatens him, he’ll fall back onto “You screwing with me because I’m black!”
During Obama’s time, he has slowly pushed the Clintons to the sidelines with all the young strident democrats. They have loyalty to her until HE tells them they do not.
Then it will be like a faucet being yanked shut. And if Clinton thinks people like Steyer and Soros will stay with them, they are even more blinded than I even I figure.
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Easiest way to catch Hillary with her classified emails…..do a data dump of the State Department servers……it’ll pick up any “official classified” emails sent to Hillary’s private (ie not secure) server.
Want to catch Hillary’s influence peddling…….take her acknowledged emails, copy all the email addresses down, and data dump the recipient’s servers (with a warrant of course)…..
This is easy stuff…..if TPTB want to do it.
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I like this very much!
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