Trump Takes Lead In NATIONAL Poll – Significant Lead… (Full pdf Included)

An expansive YouGov poll conducted July 4th-6th shows Donald Trump with a significant lead over Jeb Bush in the first national presidential poll released since Trump announced his presidency.

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It’s an exhaustive and inclusive 102 page poll – run frequently by the economist that covers a variety of issues, topics and public insight concerns.   One of the other interesting notations within the poll is the “primary concern” for party voters when selecting a candidate.  For identified Republicans the economy is the #1 issue.  For identified Democrats the sustainability of Social Security is #1. 

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250 Responses to Trump Takes Lead In NATIONAL Poll – Significant Lead… (Full pdf Included)

  1. hocuspocus13 says:

    TRUMP for PRESIDENT 👍

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  2. sunflower lady says:

    This is awesome! I’m going to make some popcorn and watch splodey heads on the ‘news’ tonight.

    Liked by 4 people

  3. mazziflol says:

    How does Jeb even have the numbers that he has? Sound your horns TRUMPeters!

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  4. jakeandcrew says:

    Outstanding!!!

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  5. Nick says:

    The liberal media is going to pull out all stops to discredit him but what makes him unique is he’s unapologetic and the American people see integrity in someone like him. Either that or anyone but Hillary

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  6. smiley says:

    Whether you like him or not, Trump is now the national spokesman for everything The Left has tried to deny, cover up and destroy…and transform.
    He is controlling the narrative, and its forcing the rest of the GOP (RINOs) to also swing into action and somehow deal with it.
    Everybody’s true colors are now showing….and its not pretty.
    He is changing the whole dynamic of “conservative” and “moderate” .
    He’s shaking things up.
    The Left is going nuts.
    they are scrambling and sputtering for even more lies to deny Trump’s locomotive of truth.

    Trump/Cruz 2016 !

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  7. John Galt says:

    For identified Republicans the economy is the #1 issue.
    For identified Democrats the sustainability of Social Security is #1.

    Makers & Takers

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    • doodahdaze says:

      All Trump haz to do now is shift to the economy. heh, heh, heh,

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      • TwoLaine says:

        That actually what he WAS talking about! The whole sideshow took away from his wanting to negotiate better deals for America and get our jobs back from those who are using us.

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        • boutis says:

          All of it fits like a Rubik’s cube. Jobs, pay, trade, war, illegal immigration, crime, rule of law, is an interconnected puzzle. When candidates act like they are not interconnected and influence all of it you know they are lying or stupid. I think Trump understands this since he is connected to the real world.

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    • Serpentor says:

      If social security is really that important of an issue, then curbing deficit spending is the only way to protect it long term. If the government isn’t sound, then the program isn’t sound.

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    • sixmax11 says:

      wrong john, SS is not an entitlement. i don’t know about you, but i’ve have been paying into that fund nearly my entire life. i’m not sure anything will be left when i retire. but when the checks start that’s my money coming back to me.

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      • SS, like Trump recently said, is a contract agreement between people who have paid ( in theory,) & the United States Goverment. I’ve paid mucho into it, like many have.. There are slugs drawing ssi who are not or have never paid into it..

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      • jim says:

        There is a legal argument and philosophical argument regarding social security.

        The legal argument – The supreme court has ruled that the money we’ve paid into social security is not our money. SS taxes, SS benefits and taxes on those benefits are at the whim of 535 legislators. SS is a payroll tax and a welfare-benefits system with no financial connection between the two.

        The philosophical argument – It’s not welfare if I’m getting back the money I paid in taxes. It’s my money.

        Most people have gotten back more than they paid and that will continue until SS goes broke. SS is probably already paying out more than it is taking in. I say, “probably” because the latest detailed information on taxes and benefits at ssa.gov is dated 2011. So no one really knows when this Ponzi scheme is going to fall apart.

        In depth analysis here – http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/is-there-right-social-security

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        • Warmac9999 says:

          The money I put in at the age of 20 is worth a hell of a lot more than the money I take out at 65.

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        • sixmax11 says:

          i completely agree that it is a massive Ponzi scheme. FDR was either an evil s.o.b. or dumb as a box of rocks when he came up with SS. However, for most of us, we don’t get a choice. we have to play this game, because the gov’t makes us. my only hope is that when the music stops, there is still something left in the pot!

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      • bertdilbert says:

        Right, you paid taxes and it is not an entitlement because you are not entitled to anything.

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        • BigMamaTEA says:

          BD, many years ago the crooks in DC blended the “welfare benefits” with the word entitlement phrase. We all generally have assumed that welfare was considered an “entitlement.” The only real entitlement is the one (SS) that we were promised we would get back if we continued to pay into.

          Then DC slowly changed the name “welfare.” (You know, to eliminate shaming) No one who has not payed in is “entitled” to anything.

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    • JustSomeInputFromAz says:

      Yep

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  8. Donald Joy says:

    Holy cow

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  9. CoastalKitty says:

    Way to go Mr. Trump! Trump in 2016!

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    • conservalicious says:

      These numbers are great! They show how unimportant the media and losers in the establishments of both parties are and it highlights how much the people appreciate someone who won’t back down to the PC police. I think Trump has shown the illegal immigration issue to be a winning strategy to start with.

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      • BigMamaTEA says:

        YES. And I hope all of the dummies in DC are watching. We’ve all been trying to tell them, and they refuse to listen to the voters.

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  10. auscitizenmom says:

    {Happy Dance} 🙂 🙂

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  11. Raptor Eagle says:

    It seems that Americans are finally sick and tired of being LIED to by the political Cabal of this Country and will welcome Truth over BS.

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  12. After 6 1/2 years of lunacy, the clear choice here is most Americans, are beyond weary. Truth & attacking problems that plaque America is American… Trump delivers this, people are hungry, & not for Jeb’s mexican recipes either.. Or Zero & his love for BGI , Sharpton & Isis … The gig is OVER!

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  13. Donald Joy says:

    A caveat here is that the overwhelming majority of those polled also say they don’t believe Trump will get the nomination; they think Jeb will.

    I’m betting that if Trump, by a minor miracle, does stick to his guns, developments will have him breaking away for an independent bid for the presidency once the GOPe scumbags try to get him to be more politically correct, etc.

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    • smiley says:

      makes a lot of sense.

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    • Ziiggii says:

      I hope he rides it all the way to the convention before he makes that break.

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    • TwoLaine says:

      That is because that is what we have all been conditioned to think. Just like they tried to condition us to think what he said was Bad, Horrible, Demeaning….. And they said he wouldn’t last more than a couple of days. 🙂

      FTPCP! Break the Rules, Break the Bondage!

      Trump 2016 🙂

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    • truthseekerr says:

      In my humble opinion, any Bush on any ticket will loose. O won easily by blasting Bush. Remember, Bush was so bad he wasn’t even invited to the RNC in 2008.

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    • developments will have him breaking away for an independent bid for the presidency

      I disagree. Trump, himself, commented about that very possibility (when asked if he would support the GOP nominee if his bid failed) and said that if it hadn’t been for Ross Perot’s 3rd party candidacy, we wouldn’t even know the name “Clinton” today. (And he’s right). This is NOT something that Trump would repeat.

      IMO, if he got “fed up” prior the GOP convention, he would bow entirely out of the race and throw his support behind some other GOP candidate. WHO he might endorse remains to be seen. As for after the convention, I believe he’s already addressed that. Support for the nominee, or simple silence on the matter, but definitely NOT a 3rd Party bid.

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      • doodahdaze says:

        He can win it. He can win the GOP nomination. He has them on the run.

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      • Donald Joy says:

        Things can change, and it’s high time they did. Past is not necessarily prologue; just because Perot bombed out doesn’t mean a 3rd party candidate can’t or shouldn’t win. This country desperately needs a 3rd alternative to the 2-party corruption garbage. It’s time. Trump might change his tune and be the one to do it, if not someone else.

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        • This country desperately needs a 3rd alternative to the 2-party corruption garbage.

          I totally agree with you on that matter but, (IMO) as long as our current electoral process remains in place (requiring a majority rather than a plurality to achieve election) 3rd party candidates will be spoilers, not POTUS-elects. The current system will never again elect a 3rd party candidate, and they will only serve as vacuums that “Hoover” up the votes of fence-sitters.

          As it stands, the traditional, establishment GOP and Dem parties are way too strong, and too well-funded, to ever be surpassed by a 3rd party, and they will NEVER relinquish that power by passing legislation that changes the electoral process. Like Dana Carvey (as Bush) said:

          And let me add, in consideration of my immense skepticism over ANY possible changes made to the US Constitution by contemporary politicians, I don’t believe it’s something that should be done, either. Seems like a path fraught with immense perils…

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        • ImpeachEmAll says:

          Dems and RINOs would love to see the vote split.

          Will hasten the demise of the USA. You betcha.

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    • dizzymissl says:

      I don’t think so. At the end of the AC interview he pretty much says he will not run as an independent.

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    • Justice_099 says:

      The problem is that in most states a party will not appear on the general election ballot unless they had a certain margin of the vote in the prior election. That is the fallacy of ‘you are throwing away your vote’. If people had simply been voting based on principals all this time, eventually some new parties would rise up to destroy the two party monopoly.

      This is why the tired ‘ol ‘vote against the other party’ in stead of for your party strategy has worked and is working so well.

      Don’t worry; most here will fall in line when it comes down to it, too. Hillary and Bush will be the nominees and you will be called a traitor if you don’t vote for Bush to prevent Hillary from winning. It will be as it always has been.

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    • ImpeachEmAll says:

      Trump will not be invited to the Debates;

      if he runs as an Independent.

      Hence, he runs as a Republican and

      an electable one, to boot. You betcha.

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    • BigMamaTEA says:

      If Trump feels that he has the support of We the People. Most of us now do not trust our nomination system. Been burnt too many times by the RINO-e

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  14. smarty says:

    Give em’ hell Trump!
    I have sent in a donation and yes my 2 cents for D.J. Trump.
    I believe he should honestly use Truman and his feisty personality in his campaign. Truman was known for being non PC, always getting on the wrong side of the elitists in D.C. as well as the media. He stood up for his beliefs and decisions w/o any hesitation. I don’t care about Truman being democrat or even some of his beliefs. At the end of the day he was a real man and stood up for America.
    I also suggested Trump open up victory centers in ghettos and where ever there is a high rate of hopelessness and joblessness. I believe that Trump can connect with people of any and all colors and ethnicity.He truly has the charisma and fighting spirit that many are craving and also that some do not know they crave but will be attracted to.

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  15. truthseekerr says:

    This proves that Americans want someone to speak up and be bold.

    Liked by 4 people

  16. John Galt says:

    More ammo for Trump: “FBI warns ISIS using encryption to evade feds”

    I guess we need to secure the border.

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  17. sundance says:

    Well, now they’re just being silly:…

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    • doodahdaze says:

      Tora, Tora, Tora!!!

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      Boy, they are really scared of him.

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    • Judgy says:

      Good God, that’s hilariously ridiculous. In the accompanying NYT article some guy named Paul Agnew claims that “some people (meaning pilots. Ostensibly, intelligent-enough-to-BE-pilots) won’t even take off from these coordinates, cuz they’re so offended”. Okay, this was even back in 2010, but–really? REALLY?? Did anyone question Mr. Agnew’s veracity?

      At a time when people are tearfully rejoicing & asking each other how they FEEL on HLN News cuz a Confederate flag will be taken down; when we can no longer watch a cartoon show about a fat black kid, cuz its creator liked gettin’ rapey with Quaaludes; when the NAN screams at Kid Rock to stop promoting the “genocide” of black people; when a pro golfer thinks painting a car will help heal race relations, and when “ILLEGAL ALIEN” is code for “You must be EXTRA nice to these wonderful people”, well………..

      I just think people see Trump as the only ADULT in the room!

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      • jakeandcrew says:

        Love this! I heard echoes of John Adams (played by William Daniels) in 1776 – “Good God! This is Congress?!” My kids tried to keep a running tab of how many times John Adams said, “Good God!” I think they gave up before the movie was over (it was a lot). 🙂

        We watch that movie every July 4th, except this past one. This year, we just weren’t in the mood to celebrate. But I’m thinking it’s time to get it out and watch it again!

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        • Judgy says:

          I used to LOVE the 1776 soundtrack! “Saltpeter!”.

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          • jakeandcrew says:

            “Pins!”

            Another favorite ~

            “Sit down, John! Sit down, John! For God’s sake, John, sit down!”
            “Someone ought to open up a window!” “No!”
            “Too many flies! Too many flies!”
            “It’s hot as hell in Philadelphia!”

            Can’t do it justice without the music.

            If anyone has never seen this movie, you should watch it! I think it should be required viewing in every American history class.

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            • Judgy says:

              Okay, you’re my new friend. I had actually started humming that EXACT verse after I left that comment! That whole “Too many flies” part is musical genius. Terrific that you show your kids that movie. I grew up on old musicals (I blame Rosie O’Donnell for ruining Broadway), and learning a lot of very clever lyrics (esp. Irving Berlin & Cole Porter) is great for young minds.

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              • robertnotsowise says:

                and check out Cy Coleman for some fun lyrics. Especially BARNUM..

                my fave is Sondheim with a small bit in ASSASSINS “We were left bereft of F.D.R.”

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                • Judgy says:

                  Yay, Robert! “Bigger isn’t better, taller isn’t braver; smarter isn’t always wise!”. (Love the Tom Thumb song!).

                  And anyone who can make you wanna listen to why Squeaky Fromme thought she ought to shoot try shooting Gerald Ford, on top of swelling melodies, is okay in my book! (“I am……..nothing. You are Wind, and Devil, and God……Charlie”).

                  Thank you for pulling out my inner geek. Or maybe I’m an outer geek. Either way, GREAT suggestions! I like some Kander & Ebb stuff too, they’re funny.

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              • jakeandcrew says:

                Haha! That’s great! Yes, I love musicals, too. In high school I was the pianist for the musicals -played for rehearsals and in the “orchestra” for performances. My future hubby was IN the musicals – he’s got a great voice.

                I just came across this article about “1776” today (when I was trying to find the actor’s name who played John Adams). It’s very interesting!

                http://mentalfloss.com/article/65795/10-star-spangled-facts-about-musical-1776

                The winner of three Tony Awards (including Best Musical), 1776 might be the most improbable hit in Broadway history. Between Woodstock, the Stonewall riots, and a massive anti-Vietnam march, 1969 was a turbulent year. With all that going on, who would have guessed that the Great White Way’s biggest smash would be a show in which Ben Franklin sings about the Declaration of Independence?

                And this ~

                Some of the lines were taken directly from the founding fathers’ pens..

                Halfway through “Is Anybody There?” an impassioned John Adams sings “Through all the gloom, I see the rays of ravishing light and glory!” Here, Edwards quoted (almost verbatim) a letter that Adams actually wrote to his wife, Abigail, on July 3, 1776.

                I was reading David McCollough”s biography of Adams and was surprised to read (I believe this was also in a letter to Abigail) that he felt he was obnoxious and disliked, when it came to his fellow representatives, delegates – whatever they were called at that point. That phrase “obnoxious and disliked” is in the chorus of “But, Mr. Adams”, a song they sing when they argue about who will write their declaration of independence from England.

                I could go on and on, but I guess I already have! It’s very nice to have a new friend in the Treehouse. Don’t worry treepers, if you hear some strange sounds coming from some of the branches, it’ll be Judgy and me, singing at the top of our lungs ~

                (Benjamin Franklin)
                “Mr. Adams, but, Mr. Adams
                The things I write are only light extemporania
                I won’t put politics on paper; it’s a mania
                So I refuse to use the pen in Pennsylvania”

                🙂

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        • doodahdaze says:

          Our first president was not a politician.

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      • Dixie says:

        they really are a petty bunch of fools.

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        • Judgy says:

          It just seems like EVERYONE’S focusing on the DUMBEST stuff! I think the Twittering, and constant “gotcha” cell phone videos are hastening what was already an inevitable decline. “Our side” needs to relax a little too. If anything, maybe we should be more concerned that some idiot pop star was licking donuts THAT GOT SOLD, rather than getting outraged that she said she hates America–if we need be concerned at all? Someone saying they “hate America” is repellent. But it’s not something we get to demand an apology for.

          The border thing though? NOT petty at all. Pretty damn important. Go Trump!

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    • Millwright says:

      This ain’t cheap ! That means a whole lot of critical nav data bases and airways maps have to be updated ! A lot of t taxpayer dollars are being spent to satisfy some bureaucratic whim ? Another opportunity for Trump to trash senseless government waste !

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      • Judgy says:

        Hadn’t even realized that. Wow. Because somewhere, some Mexican pilots MIGHT be offended about the way they choose to interpret something Mr. Trump said? (Or because some uber-PC white pilots think that being offended makes them “good people”, and that all of that is DEFINITELY important enough to spend money changing the base names??).

        What would happen if they DIDN’T change the base names? People would seriously be so offended, they wouldn’t use ’em?? This is fascinating!

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  18. TwoLaine says:

    Gretchen called out the D’s and the R’s today on their treatment of Trump.

    She basically said how dare you tell a candidate how to communicate a message when you haven’t figured out how to communicate a message yet, OR one that anyone will buy?

    I’ll see if it is up anywhere yet.

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  19. Zinger Base says:

    Trump is showing the Republican establishment that backing Bush is stupid. Bush is a “wet noodle” with zero spunk, fire and to say the least boringly set to appease as many as he can.

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  20. Arkindole says:

    “Independents”, “no party preference”, etc. CONTROLS the outcome. The opinions of R and D are irrelevant, especially when they start the busing to polls, bringing in dead people, etc. Why do they keep polling these people? The ones that have given up on R are the deciders.

    Also…keep in mind…

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  21. truthseekerr says:

    Maybe they should use the names “Marx” “Commie” or “Social”

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  22. boutis says:

    It was obvious that something was up for both parties, the White House and the media to go this bonkers. When Trump announced there was barely an acknowledgement except a little scorn. They knew the results of this poll by the end of the first day of taking it on the 4th and just how bad by the 6th and told the political hacks and media as soon as they knew it. Thus the exploding heads. Other private polls are probably worse.

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  23. tappin52 says:

    One of the great things about Trump is that he does not like to lose. If he wins the nomination and eventually the presidency, he will surround himself with the best and brightest minds to get the best result. He does not tolerate mediocrity. He is not afraid to say “You’re fired!” if the job is not getting done. He has put his entire life and reputation on the line for this country. He will not abide failure. I’m all in for him, even though I had serious reservations about him earlier.

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    • Mr. Izz says:

      I don’t know if I’m all in quite yet for Mr. Trump. Within the next few weeks we’ll have around 20 individuals running for the Republican nomination. That’s a lot of people to sift through, listen to, and analyze.

      That being said, Trump is definitely towards the top of my list right now. I never thought I would say that, but he most definitely is. Unfortunately, I don’t think the country is going to rally behind him. He comes with a lot of baggage, a lot of non-PC statements, and his “in your face/tell it like it is” attitude does rub some people the wrong way.

      We’ll see what happens.

      Frankly, I’m probably more of an “anybody but Hillary” kind of person right now.

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    • realitycheck says:

      Is the kool-aid good?

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  24. Richard_Iowa says:

    Exploding head alert! Exploding head alert!

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  25. Ziiggii says:

    LOL – they say it’s to make a “political point”! bahaaahaaaaa
    Los Angeles Schools Dump Trump Too

    The Los Angeles Unified School District (LAUSD) has canceled a charity golf event it was planning at a Donald Trump-owned golf course, the LA School Report says, making it the latest organization and apparently the first government entity to cut ties with Trump over his comments on immigrants.

    http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/09/los-angeles-schools-dump-trump-too/

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  26. Ziiggii says:

    Bush raised $115 million {“Can’t by me loveeeee!”}

    http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/09/jebs-super-pac-raises-103m-campaign-raises-11-4m/

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    • Serpentor says:

      In other news, Trump just announced that he made $200 million last quarter.

      Of course I’m j/k, but that amount is probably not too far off.

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  27. crazy says:

    Perot was winning too. The others would be wise to spend more time pinning these liberal policy failures on the people and party responsible and less time trashing each other or we’ll soon be scratching our heads wondering how the _ell did Joe Biden become President and how the _ell did Trump’s campaign declare bankruptcy and walk away debt free.

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    • dizzymissl says:

      I will not vote for any of the traditional candidates that are running. I will vote for Trump.

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      • yankeeintx says:

        It makes me so sad whenever I see someone say that they will only vote for “their guy”. That’s how Obama won his second term. People stayed home because “their guy” didn’t get the nomination. I am working hard and praying that Bush and Christie don’t get very far, but won’t sit home and give the job to Hillary or Bernie. (I am campaigning for Ted Cruz).

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        • dizzymissl says:

          It makes me sad (read pissed) when I vote for somebody and they are a democrat disguised as a republican and nothing changes. At least with Trump I know he will work to get the US on a strong financial footing. The rest of the field has not the first clue on how to do that.

          It has NOTHING to do with “my guy”.

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          • yankeeintx says:

            Actually, you can only hope he will work to get the US back on track. He’s sided with the Dems more than once, donated more to the Dems, and helped Dems pass Obamacare. He has stated that he believes in Universal Health care and supported late term abortion. He also thinks he’s a financial wizard, but he’s had at least 4 companies declare bankruptcy, why couldn’t he save those companies. Somebody is always hurt when a company declares bankruptcy and it’s usually the taxpayers. I like that he is speaking his mind and saying things that need to be said, but he’s become an actor. I do see him in comparison to a Perot, dividing up the conservatives so an establishment like Jeb slips on in, guaranteeing Hillary the win. That would work in The Donald’s favor, and we all know that he’s all about The Donald, just ask Vera Coking.

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            • ImpeachEmAll says:

              Cheer up.

              If Cruz is not on the ballet.

              You may write-in Putin.

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            • keebler AC says:

              Yankee, I like Cruz very much too butit appears his name is to too low on the awareness totem pole. Rand Paul is way ahead of him. He’s not going to make the top this go around.

              The Donald may be able to pull him up to top tier with him. Together the intelligence combo is out of sight brilliant. I wondered if Dr. Ben Carson would be a good V.P choice which would pull AAs to the Donald (then again, maybe not if they view him as another Herman Cain). Either way, ever since I learned how the media vicously ragged on Ronald Reagan the entire time he was president, I now realized how media hates the truly brilliant present day icons. Believe none or very little of what has been written or portrayed the lamestream.

              Vera Coking’s boarding house had to be auctioned off finally because it had become completely decrepit. Trump offerred her a chance to let it go with a generous offer but she refused. He let it go of course. That’s hardly worthy of shaming. He didn’t do anything back handed. She said no, he tried, deal fell through. She wasn’t able to keep it up financially.

              Regarding taxpayer loss in bankruptcies:

              https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20111129103321AACrD2d

              How much do bankruptcies cost taxpayers?

              The government does not pay the debts of bankruptcy debtors. The lenders don’t get paid at all.

              This is why lenders charge higher interest rates to riskier borrowers – there is a chance they won’t be paid. Generally, though, they make a huge profit even though some of their loans don’t get paid back, because the interest rates are so high on the ones that do get paid.

              Lenders commonly complain how bankruptcies hurt their business, but they keep lending to people that already have huge debt and low income.

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              • keebler AC says:

                YankeeInTx, I mean! My laptop is jumpy tonight. The bold went wrong too. I intended to only bold the fact that taxpayers do not take on the burden of bankruptcies. Banks do, but they make up in interest. Foreclosure can happen in economic downturns. These are the unpredictable nature of businesses. Anything can happen. A big problem for many businesses are unforeseen events, industry changes and breakthroughs, lots. Politics especially can disrupt business fortunes. Calling bankruptcies protects employee salaries from banks too. Bankruptcy when done for the correct reasons is to put banks at long arms length to prevent premature take over by banks and predator acquisitions.

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              • yankeeintx says:

                Vera Coking’s was given $251,000 in compensation after eminent domain, after having been offered $1 million. The property wasn’t auctioned until July 2014 and sold for $530,000, even though Trump Towers had announced they were shutting down in Sept. I see eminent domain as a necessary evil, when the gov’t needs land for a military base, reservoir, or highway, but it is especially tough when it is for a private enterprise.
                Taxpayers may not directly pay for a bankruptcy, but when ever a company/bank writes off a bad debt it does have an effect. Somebody is not getting paid what they are owed. The bigger picture is Trump claiming he can “fix” things. As a nation we are already bankrupt with 18T in debt. Does he just plan on defaulting on our debts and starting over? At least 4 times he’s thrown in the towel and walked away rather than using his magic to “fix” things.

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                • keebler AC says:

                  You would rather not bankruptcy to protect and pay your employees and keep business afloat from premature closure by bankers and creditors?

                  Yes, bankruptcy will need to be called when unforeseen things go downhill like the Oct 1987 economic crisis. A good leader will batten down the hatches and protect the ship from rocks bent on destruction to pay themselves liquidation from ship parts – having already been paid high interest. It’s a risk the banks take to loan money to an enterprise. It is understood this is why monthly pre-payments on principal are required. Bankruptcy is the risk banks take. They know full well.

                  You would like not to be able to call bankruptcy on the Trillion $ debt to protect US citizens? I think Trump ought to call bankruptcy and restructure the US debt. There is NO WAY in hell America can pay the debt off. NO WAY without restructuring.

                  What bankruptcy also means, when you call it yourself, is you negotiate better terms of payment and the company has a second chance to seek other ways to pay earn revenue – product improvement, innovative manufacturing, goodwill by benefactors who choose to donate to reduce the loan, new investors and creditors to take over loan from old creditors.

                  As for eminent domain and Vera Coke, I’ll research it. But I don’t take the media’s word for it.

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                • keebler AC says:

                  Trump pays more tax into the system from his business than the government in a bankruptcy. It’s the government who loses from future earnings if a company goes bankrupt, not taxpayers themselves. No one knocks on the door of the taxpayer to ask for money to pay for the private banktruptcy. The distinction is important. Whatever you’ve heard, it isn’t accurate. Again, the government loses tax revenue and maybe they come to taxpayers to make up for loss income. But definitely Trump’s business is not beholden to taxpayers nor the government for halting the payment of taxes by calling bankruptcy.

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                • yankeeintx says:

                  First let me be clear, I don’t like banks. But, whenever someone doesn’t pay their debt, somebody else suffers. Whether it is a bank or a credit card company to make up for their loss, they raise rates on everyone else. Bankruptcy is also an indication of failure, whether someone didn’t forecast properly or stretched themselves to thin, they failed. Bankruptcy is much like shoplifting, even if we are not stealing, we all pay a few extra cents for those that do. The company has to make up for the loss through it’s customers.

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                • keebler AC says:

                  It is not shoplifting. Far from it. Banks KNOW the risk. It’s not like lending to a friend and then they “forget” to pay you back.

                  It is the BANK which must take responsibility for their loans. If they win every time against a prospect’s risk, then they would loan to everyone. Banks can be ruthless, and yes, the business needs protection from banks when in a vulnerable situation. Look at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. They should not have made the loans.

                  China knows clearly what they’re doing when they loan to Obama and the US at $trillion deficit and high interest rates. They SIGNED on the dotted line. This is NOT SHOPLIFTING. You’d have to explain to me that banks don’t know what they’re doing when they sign the agreement. The RISK is understood.

                  Yes, the government and therefore taxpayers pay when they insure Fannie and Freddy loans. This is a separate and not a wholesale, across the board issue.

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                • keebler AC says:

                  There are always two sides to a story and the media is well known for being anti-capitalist activists. Why they don’t attack their own network conglomerate for shady business practices of over-exaggerating the truth is my beef.

                  Back to Vera Coking. Trump’s side is she asked for way more than the property was worth. She was already having troubles in 1970 with Bob Guccione who built around her property. It was NOT Trump who ignored here and built. He bought the Guccione property to SALVAGE since it was failing. It was thought Vera Coke’s property was an eyesore and therefore a shadow. It had already fallen to disrepair and the “State” (not Trump) sought to condemn the property for economic disrepair, a pox on gentrification, and danger to city and inhabitants. This was the eminent domain argument.

                  According to Trump, Vera Coking was quite willing to sell and negotiate. She asked for too much, more than the property was worth. In situations like these where the seller is willing to part with his property, most likely a property assessment was done whereby it was noticed the building was in complete disrepair. There are two sides to the story and I never believe an ignorant reporter’s superficial take.

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                • yankeeintx says:

                  Actually it was Atlantic City that condemned the property, not the state. She lived in the house until 2010, so it couldn’t have been too decrepit. The city thinking of the taxes the property could generate as a casino as apposed to residential was more than happy to attempt to snatch the property up on Trump’s behalf. My brother-in-law lost his home and small breakfast restaurant to eminent domain when his city decided putting a Lowe’s on the property was a better use of it. He ran out of money to fight it, and ended up getting pennies on the dollar in compensation. The Lowe’s was never built because the ground was unsuitable to construction and the home sits rotting. Eminent domain sucks.
                  http://www.ij.org/atlantic-city-nj-condemnation-background

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                • keebler AC says:

                  I’m sorry for your brother and Lowe’s but it’s a distraction to apply that directly the Coking case.

                  Vera Coking won against the city because her property was then assessed and not deemed in disrepair. There are two sides and it depends on which side you feel more reasonable.The media stated “state” so there we go with inaccuracies. I’m not proposing that Coking was wrong, but the media unfairly characterized Trump. He did not build around her property. It was the former builder. He thought he could help salvage it and the City welcomed an opportunity to re-energize the land for economy. The city viewed her property as highly degraded. In the end she had to put money into upkeep of the property. Along with property ownership comes responsibility.

                  If I owned property square in the middle of down town and had commercial buildings around me, I expect to be approached. It’s the aggravation of owning highly valued land. To expect that no one would mind her letting the property go down hill is utopian.

                  Again, we only see one side of the story. I also know people who over-estimate the value of their property on commercial land, expect exorbitant payment far surpassing market value. They hold out for more. In the end, they hold out too long, and the business goes elsewhere. Did Vera Coking really win in the end?

                  I can’t speak to your family’s run in but one circumstance does not automatically parlay into the other case.

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        • ImpeachEmAll says:

          Gee, what a surprise.

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    • doodahdaze says:

      I don’t really care anymore whether or not a RINO gets elected. I am done with them. They are a waste of my time.

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  28. TwoLaine says:

    Am I the only one who sees he has 18% for #1 (Q 95) and 8% for #2 (Q 96)?

    Still leading the pack on both! 🙂

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  29. Kay Elle says:

    Trump is now saying all the right things. Loudly. But I do have some concerns about his sincerity…

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-donation-history-shows-democratic-favoritism/2011/04/25/AFDUddtE_story.html

    And it’s not only his donation history – which might have been a matter of pragmatism – but statements he’s made in the past supporting abortion, “universal health care”, a “net-worth tax” on the wealthy, etc. Articles like this are scary too. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/52651.html

    I can’t help but think it’s foolish to take him at face value or to go all in supporting him just because he’s a huge burr under the saddle of the establishment on both sides.

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  30. unstablerabbit says:

    Why can’t we start a petition to FOX to have Jeb Bush and Chris Christie removed from the Fox Debate? I mean seriously. Don’t dismiss this. If we found 2 million conservative voices to petition Fox that these turds don’t represent us and should be removed from the debate. I mean seriously? Does anyone really believe they are conservatives or anything but RINO’s? I don’t want this fake conservative we have an R by our name pushed on us this year. We all held our nose when we had to pull the lever for Romney because we knew he wasn’t a true conservative. I think conservatives should be screaming at FOX to dump those two turds from the debate. I will not vote for Bush or Christie even if they win the nomination in a land slide. Anyone else feel this way?

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  31. Ziiggii says:

    Ted Cruz – “I’m proud to stand with Donald Trump”
    http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/embed.js?id=4346511015001

    he’s trying hard to be relevant in this discussion.

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  32. dizzymissl says:

    Just listened to this interview with Trump:

    It’s long, but really good. The reporters let him talk in more than just sound bites.

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    • mpmp2015 says:

      RE: “I know Hillary Clinton very well. Hillary and Bill was at my wedding at Palm Beach.”

      LOL!!! Strange bedfellows! I guess he knows her well enough to defeat her as well. He’s got my vote!!

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    • wondering999 says:

      Thank you dizzymissl for posting that. I took the time to watch it (and I should be asleep, I’m not a night person if it’s not an absolute emergency. But this country is an emergency, isn’t it?)

      I was delighted that the press acted like press instead of trying to shut down adult discussion. Finally! Good for them.

      Trump covered a lot of points with specifics: negotiations with Iran, trade negotiations with China, a comparison of Rod Blagojevich’s corruption sentence while Hillary Clinton is getting a free pass over email deletions,
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Blagojevich_corruption_charges
      Rahm Emanuel and the Chicago crime reputation, getting tough with tough kids,
      hamburgers in Brooklyn 🙂
      free trade issues, NAFTA wasn’t a great deal, we need better negotiators;
      health insurance coverage for everyone and how to accomplish that,
      much more. Very well done for this voter’s interest.
      I admired the energy and focus Trump kept up throughout the whole interview, especially as I was getting more and more tired because of the hour.
      Oh, and I liked his personality — not mean, not bitter. I liked that Trump expressed admiration for Obama, no personal meanness. Along with courage, I also like generosity of spirit in leadership, not inciting bitter-bitter-envy hatred-target-scapegoat.
      Excellent. Thank you Mr. Trump. If anyone from your staff reads this, please convey my gratitude. I feel like my last hour (watching the video above) was well-spent. I actually feel buoyed despite being tired from a long day already.

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  33. Ziiggii says:

    In Trump fashion he lights it up against the E-machine:
    Exclusive — Donald Trump on the GOP Primary: ‘If I Win, I Will Beat Hillary’

    “It’s been a wild ride. It’s been pretty wild. But the message is getting out there and the polls are looking good, and we’re doing fine. And I’m enjoying it,” said Trump, who shot up in the polls after taking a strong stand against illegal immigration. “I loved what I was doing before, but this is so important for the country, because politicians are never going to make our country great.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2015/07/09/exclusive-donald-trump-on-the-gop-primary-if-i-win-i-will-beat-hillary/

    But this is a cool quote:

    But, he explained, many other wealthy backers have approached him and the call he had with GOP chairman Reince Priebus was a congratulatory one. Meanwhile, crowds are growing so big, the campaign is forced to keep renting bigger venues to contain them.

    I hope that last statement is true….

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  34. Ziiggii says:

    Trump “could become the 2016 version of Missouri Rep. Todd Akin, who tarnished the GOP brand in 2012 with an offensive statement about rape,” strategist Karl Rove wrote in a column for Thursday’s Wall Street Journal. “Republican leaders from Mitt Romney on down immediately condemned his words, but swing voters were persuaded that every Republican believed what Mr. Akin said.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/09/donor-class-panicked-priebus-pleas-for-trump-to-tone-it-down-on-immigration/

    Trying to make anything and everything stick on Trump

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  35. realitycheck says:

    If you guys got your way, at least we would have a First Lady to look at :

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  36. dizzymissl says:

    FYI, Trump is on Hannity tonight. Also,this should be entertaining:

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  37. doodahdaze says:

    Jerkaldo is melting down live on tv on Hannitty.

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  38. ImpeachEmAll says:

    Someone learned at an early age,

    from one of the best. You betcha.

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  39. Doktor Bill says:

    Trump should ask to use Tom Pettys’ “I won’t back down” as his campaign theme song.

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  40. TwoLaine says:

    Reblogged this on TwoLaine and commented:
    You probably won’t see this on the tube or many other places!

    They are still calling Mr. Trump a Clown, a Sideshow.
    They must have missed their diversity classes!

    They don’t want to admit that When Leaders Actually Lead, Others Have To Follow!

    Way To Lead Mr. Trump!

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    • keebler AC says:

      The Donald dresses conservatively. His ties are unlike those of Crip Politicians, Democrat Congressclowns and even GOP who wear polka dots, pink and yellow, silly red bow ties or Pelosi who hops up and down like a child on her Gucci stilts.

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      • TwoLaine says:

        One of his comments when he announced was something like if you are running for the office of the President of the USA, at least wear a suit!

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        • keebler AC says:

          Exactly! Have a little respect for yourself and your position in life.

          Obozo obviously has none putting his feet up on the desk for which he is hired as affirmative action…….which in retrospect….. shows how little he perceives his own accomplishment in getting to the Oval Office.

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  41. keebler AC says:

    YinTx, I won’t shop at Lowes then. There are limits. To fail to build a Lowes after putting your brother through hell is inexcusable and I hope he sued. I think in the end, Vera Coking may have walked away much happier because Trump did offer to help her but it was her right to fight it and win.

    A heritage house is different too. If your brother B&B was more gentrified than a Lowes, I’d be on his side too. I wish he didn’t suffer so at the hands of Lowes – but Lowes is definitely a Corporatocracy and some are bad.

    Here is a better story which warms my heart about developers and builders. The elderly lady was terrified of nursing homes and refused to move. She actually liked having the busy mall built around her and ended up befriending the construction company’s super-intendant. She willed the property to him in death, free, but now worthless, for all the care and attention she received from him so she could stay at her little house.

    Here’s a photo

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