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  1. I found Freddie running, the arrest and van arriving and leaving on cctv (can’t see it all of course due to the cctv being on auto pan)
    https://whiteskinnedman.wordpress.com/2015/05/04/freddie-gray-timeline/

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    • 9:53 (8:39:50) Freddie runs
      10:12 (8:40:09) Bike cop
      10:44 (8:40:40) cop with 2 bikes
      11:15 (8:41:12) cop cars arrive
      11:36 (8:41:33) Arrest
      12:21 (8:42:28) Freddie face down
      13:31 (8:43:28) Witness who recorded video
      14:16 (8:44:14) Police van
      16:05 (8:46:02) Police van leaves

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      • *12:21 is actually 12:31

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      • Armie says:

        Amazing! You have the whole arrest sequence, and the witness positions.

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      • jc says:

        Really quiet in the hood on a sunday morn, nobody around until they started popping out of their rabbit holes to watch the arress. The big guy with the cell video showed up pretty quick. The cops didn’t have much time to rough up Freddie and they must know the security cams are there (I wonder if they’re everywhere in Balti or just high crime areas and Walmart parking lots?)

        Freddie must have had some serious needs to be out drug shopping early on a Sunday . Sunday Morning coming down?

        Well done Diwata

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      • jason says:

        wow… arrest looks totally uneventful. Shot with cop + 2 bikes indicates freddie was being compliant. Next shot we see him face down but no struggling. Definitely appears the chances he sustained any injury during the arrest was minimal. I’d always assumed Freddie tripped when running or was tackled.

        So most likely his leg(s) had either fallen asleep from the leg lace he was in while face down, or he was purely hyping it up for the cameras.

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        • Tracer Round says:

          Or the heroin he just swallowed just started to kick in……

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        • clash108 says:

          The anonymous cop who was on Megyn Kelly last week stated that Gray always put on a show when he got arrested. There’s a good chance that’s what happened here. The cop also said that he would act totally different when he reached the station and would often become an informant. Yes, in other words, the cop said he was a snitch ha ha.

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      • maggiemoowho says:

        This is great, thanks Diwataman2014 👍👍👍

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    • BobNoxious says:

      So did Freddie double back? When we first see him it looks like he is running one direction away from the corner where he was ultimately arrested… Unless my orientation is off (which is entirely possible).

      And then the cop walking the two bikes is coming up on the corner where Gray was arrested about 50 seconds later? Where was Freddie during that 50 seconds?

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      • Les says:

        There was a rumor that Freddie was arrested at the other end of the sidewalk on the same block then dragged to his current position by the cops. I can see now that is false because the one cop had the bikes. He might have been tackled at the end of the block, but he was definitely arrested where the two bikes were parked. It doesn’t sound important but I think it will be later on due to the way Mosby narrated the charges (arrested first then knife placed on sidewalk). There is a difference between apprehended and arrested legally?

        Diwataman is the man! The officers will never know what some of you have done for them, but I have a feeling people drop by here and read and your hard work may not be in vain or just for our own entertainment…

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      • Les says:

        Sorry, forgot to address your question. I think the one cop hopped off his bike to go around the building the back way and the other cop went around the building from the front. The cop has two bikes because he picked it from the back of the building where his partner left it. Once their team member Rice showed up in the car, Freddie knew he was trapped.

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  2. labrat says:

    I have found discussion of the knife/illegal arrest angle and the failure to render aid. Has anyone found a discussion about the foundation for the assault charges?

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    • I believe the theory is, because the arrest was illegal, putting him in shackles and putting him on the ground to cuff him etc counts as assault.

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    • BertDilbert says:

      The assault charges are based on unlawful arrest. Everything is based on the knife not being a spring assist one hand operation knife. That is the basis of the trumped up charges.

      Mosby says not a switchblade (button on knife body to open knife, Maryland law) verses lever on blade (Baltimore law description of operation criteria).

      The officer did not arrest Mr. Gray citing Maryland law, the officer cited Baltimore law.

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      • BertDilbert says:

        IMPORTANT – Mosby did not charge officer Garrett Miller with filing a false report. Here is his signed statement of charges.
        https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1995734-freddie-gray-charging-documents.html

        Officer Miller cites Baltimore code and writes in last page spring assist one hand operation knife. If Mosby threw the book at them why did she not charge Officer Miller with filing a false statement?

        If Mosby will not produce the knife perhaps she can be questioned as to why she did not charge the officer for making false statements. If his statements is true then it was a good arrest and her charges are bogus.

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        • smiley says:

          she’s way too eager, too inexperienced and too motivated by her rage against whitey to do her job honestly, professionally and competently.

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          • We don’t give people enough credit for just being plain dumb. Am I to understand she struggled with low scores on her LSATs precluding her speedy entrance into law school? Wonder how many times she took the Maryland Bar Exam??. Now she is in the process of entirely chewing off her own butt. I am reminded of Abraham Lincoln when he said (sic) : ‘Why speak up and prove you are a fool.’

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            • smiley says:

              maybe she should just be in the streets with a sign and a raised fist…and a red bow tie.

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            • Tracer Round says:

              I wonder if that information is public?

              Would be nice to play a little offense here.

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            • John Galt says:

              “When it came time for Mosby to apply to law schools, she kept getting wait-listed because her Law School Admissions Test (LSAT) scores weren’t as good as they should have been.”

              “Darryl Roberts, an associate professor of history and political science at Tuskegee who taught Mosby in several classes. He served as the adviser for her undergraduate thesis, wrote her letters of recommendation, helped her prepare for the LSATs and counseled her on her decision to attend Boston College Law School.”

              Tutored for the LSAT, African American, and still got scores too low for initial acceptance. Presidential material for sure.

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              • Jett Black says:

                Uggh! And it’s not like the market is crying to fill a shortage of lawyers of any and all colors. Blame the ABA and law schools.

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              • BlueDevil says:

                Darryl Roberts was formerly at Duke. He was consistently the lowest rated professor there years ago. Though signed into contract which, gave him extra time to ascend to Duke Political Science Dept standards — not once but twice — he never made the grade. So, they let him go. He sued of course on the basis of discrimination and was paid “go away” money. But, simultaneously Duke fired a white professor in the Political Science dept, who was actually very good, in order to make the appearance, that, there was no racial impropriety. The white professor was not hired back after the settlement.

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      • amwick says:

        WR, and I know this must have been mentioned before, it is LE’s belief, their reasonable belief that the item in question was illegal that is important here. (according to what I have read, not being a lawyer myself) The actual determination is moot, insofar as the legality of the arrest is concerned. This fine point is apparently lost on the SA. Which makes her actions particularly egregious.

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      • oldiadguy says:

        Yes, Gray was charged for a violation of the Baltimore City Code. My question is why did Officer Nero’s attorney argue Maryland state statute in his motion?

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        • John Galt says:

          Nero’s motion to inspect knife:

          http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/2073306/motion-from-edward-nero.pdf

          The reference to Maryland law in the motion is a quotation from Mosby’s statement of probable cause to charge Nero: “The knife was not a switchblade and is lawful under Maryland law.”

          I assume they’ll eventually get around to arguing about the applicable Baltimore code after they get to inspect the knife.

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          • oldiadguy says:

            The problem is the officer’s attorney is allowing Mosby to control the narrative. Mosby’s claims “The knife was not a switchblade and is lawful under Maryland law.” is irrelevant in this case as Gray was not charged under Maryland’s statutes, but was charged under Baltimore City Code.

            The officer has the facts in his favor here. Someone, either the commissioner or someone from the prosecutor’s office reviewed the case/affidavit, found there was probable cause to charge Gray with the violation of the Baltimore City Code. That is what should be argued, not the red herring Mosby threw out.

            I stated previously, that we used to bring the knife with us to the warrant office when the charges involved a knife. I wish I knew the procedure for the BPD. If someone in the warrant issuing process viewed the knife and found it to be in violation, then I feel Mosby’s claims are mute.

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            • True Colors says:

              Mosby believes that the only illegal knife is a switchblade. In her mind, every other knife is legal.

              Mosby is obviously wrong and she is about to have a ton of egg on her face. Her brazen, loud mouthed grandstanding on this issue will make matters much worse for her.

              I think that the odds are high at this point that at least 2 of the officers will be set free rather quickly. Possibly even as soon as this weekend.

              TC

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              • John Galt says:

                “Mosby is obviously wrong”

                (1) How do you know without seeing the knife?

                (2) Spring assisted opening knives are not “commonly known as a switch-blade knife.”

                (3) “a switchblade knife is “a pocketknife having the blade spring-operated so that pressure on a release catch causes it to fly open [from its position folded in the handle]”
                Bacon v. State Spring assisted knives don’t operate in that manner. You have to push on a thumb stud or a lever attached to the blade. They are not “automatic.”

                http://www.leagle.com/decision/1991462322Md140_1448.xml/BACON%20v.%20STATE

                Baltimore Code § 59-22. Switch-blade knives.

                (a) Possession or sale, etc., prohibited. It shall be unlawful for any person to sell, carry, or possess any knife with an automatic spring or other device for opening and/or closing the blade, commonly known as a switch-blade knife.

                (b) Penalties. Any person violating the provisions of this section, shall, upon conviction thereof, be fined not more than $500 or be imprisoned for not more than 1 year, or both, in the discretion of the court.

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                • John Galt says:

                  Another point: If 59-22 is interpreted as an outright ban on common spring assisted opening knives typically possessed for lawful purposes, then it is probably unconstitutional under Heller.

                  “Unlike Oregon, some states continue to ban even the home possession
                  of switchblades. If switchblades are “typically possessed . . .
                  for lawful purposes,” then the bans are unconstitutional under Heller.”

                  http://www.kniferights.org/Knives-and-the-Second-Amendment.pdf

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                • doodahdaze says:

                  Mo Bettah!

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                • doodahdaze says:

                  Sounds good to me. IOW. The Cops had no idea what the law was. Nor did the perp. Nor did the paddy wagon driver or the rioters. Nor does the media. Do I have it right?

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      • seeingeye2 says:

        So Mosby, a lawyer, did not notice the law cited in the arrest of Gray? Wow!!!

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        • doodahdaze says:

          The cops are being persecuted. Under laws that no one has any clue about. What they are and what they mean. Maybe there is a Cat smoking Opium in a tree we can consult?

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  3. Here’s more from another video.

    10:10 (8:40:07) Freddie runs
    10:12 (8:40:09) cop on bike
    12:10 (8:42:07) Van arriving
    17:20 (8:47:17 to 8:50:00 video ends) van at Mount & Baker

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    • Armie says:

      Looks like he runs into that place on the corner.

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      • Am I interpreting the video wrong or does it look like he ran past the spot where he’s arrested face down, then turns around runs in the opposite direction and is arrested?

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        • You got it, he ran a block South past the arrest point, then at some point goes back towards that way and runs into the cop.

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          • Justice_099 says:

            Might lead one to think he knew they were going to catch him, so drop whatever drugs he had as far away as possible then run back so your arrest is far away from the drop point.

            I imagine drug kingpins have drop locations set up for their dealers getting arrested to make sure the drugs are not taken. Someone sweeps by and picks them up from the drop.

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            • Justice_099 says:

              Or even that he knows if they don’t find drugs on him, he will be released within a day and he can go back and retrieve his drugs after he gets out.

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              • AdukeLAXobserver says:

                They could go back and get it or not. The important thing to dealers is they don’t get caught with the drugs on them. Even losing the drugs to someone else or the drugs getting thrown away is better than the alternative.

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              • oldiadguy says:

                Yes, dumping the drugs for later retrieval is the norm. Swallowing the drugs is very rare.

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            • Justice_099 says:

              I wonder if there are any cameras set up to see if anyone else goes to that location Freddie first went to.

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              • I wished they would have released longer videos from more locations. Or at least get a clear path the driver went and get every camera following it.

                I’m going to go through every video, label them and mark them on a map unless someone beats me to it lol.

                These three below are from an apartment complex SE of Stop 3 (they were clearly looking for the stop there) You can see where they got the private camera from at 1201 Dolphin st
                #2015 (Cummings Ct.)
                #2019 (Stoddard Ct.)
                #2018 (Manse Ct.)

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                • *correction, that was not the private camera address, but there is a camera there, wonder if it caught the van. The private camera I think came from “OK Grocery” on the corner of Mosher St & N Fremont Av.

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            • smiley says:

              are toxicology results available yet ?
              maybe he swallowed “the drugs”.
              maybe he od’d.

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              • JohnP says:

                More importantly are Freddy’s original blood samples, taken when he was admitted to the hospital secured for further testing? They are more important than the autopsy findings.

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      • inspectorudy says:

        Are we all looking at the same video? I don’t see anything like you are describing even when I stop it at the mentioned times. Are you blowing the picture way up or using anything to enhance it?

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    • Justice_099 says:

      There seems like some very strange cuts and jumps in all of these CCTV videos. The camera just jumps at times.

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      • Justice_099 says:

        Look at 9:13 for one example

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      • Just worn gears/motors I’m sure. I noticed it before and didn’t see any jump in the timecode to cause concern but still good to look out for just in case.

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        • Justice_099 says:

          Yeah, I just noticed it happens at the same spot every time.

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          • Ziiggii says:

            Those camera’s are set up with a specific constant motion (way points). A lot of the movements were just quick and dirty pans and tilts done by a tech remotely not caring if they looked “good”. Once saved the cameras just keeps preforming the same movements over and over.

            I noticed that on one of the cameras once it completed it’s pans and tilts it would just drop real fast and look directly below it’s self. There was nothing there other that a dead bug inside the dome. Then it would go back to the first way point and continue the set.

            I doubt anyone ever really goes back into the camera’s to control them unless they need a specific view of an on going issue. I was amazed at the amount of cameras located in that housing complex. Obviously a high crime area.

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            • Les says:

              They need two cameras on every building on every corner that just pan their half of the square. How many murders would they solve if they had these. The murder/drug zones are clearly delineated in Baltimore.

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    • Armie says:

      Okay, so meshing the two video projects: From the time the PD unit arrives at Mount and Baker to help the van driver to the time he arrives at Pennsylvania and North to pick up #2 is 21 minutes, right? (8:50 to 9:11) So if he did he make all these alleged extra stops, they must have been short ones.

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  4. Bob says:

    Baltimore is a sanctuary city for criminals and thugs. Instead of building new prisons just wall off Baltimore its a democrat Nirvana.
    Interesting US Attorny Generals Holder & Lyinch have meet with relatives of Trayvon Martin, Mike Brown, Fred Gray, it’s almost like they have a racial agenda.

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  5. Justice_099 says:

    So, the prevailing theory so far about the medics showing up at the 1600 W. North Ave. address to find someone with a broken arm was purely coincidental, right? I am not suggesting that is impossible, though it seems so unlikely.

    One explanation I can think of is that someone at that address with a broken arm could have been a victim of whoever they arrested.

    If that is the case, then…

    Let’s assume it was Donta Allen. According to his statements, he was picked up for originally for just buying a cigarette and then later he said it was for marijuana possession. So, how does a victim with a broken arm come in to play with that?

    Let’s assume the person picked up was a 38yo violating a protective order. THAT would seem more likely to have resulted in a victim with a broken arm.

    So, in my opinion, if the theory of an actual broken arm at 1600 being called in by the police, it would have been a victim.

    But then again, who calls an ambulance for a broken arm? An ambulances cost over $1K! It’s certainly not a medical emergency of any kind. In my mind, the only reason anyone would call an ambulance for a broken arm would be the police trying to seek attention for someone in custody. $1K for an ambulance ride is a lot of money to a private citizen. But, to the police, this would be important to them to document an injury and reduce liability claims.

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    • Justice_099 says:

      I have excellent insurance btw, and have thankfully only ever needed an ambulance once. It cost me $880 out of pocket for that ride. My insurance did not cover the majority of it.

      So we can’t chalk it up to Obamacare which actually reduced coverage in emergency care because the focus of it is on preventative care.

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      • jc says:

        Freddie and people in the police vans don’t pay for anything,the hosp might get some medicaid payment and the writes off the remainder,these people have no reportable incomes or assets. Freddie would have had the paint chip settlement briefly.

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        • Justice_099 says:

          But we have already determined that it wasn’t anyone in the van because the van is no longer there when the EMS arrives.

          The EMS doesn’t work for the hospital, btw. They are independent companies and you are billed separately.

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      • It costs you $880 because half the people are paying nothing. And some are using the ambulance service as a taxi.

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      • BigMamaTEA says:

        I think that’s been proven untrue. I’ll find you a link later.

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    • Armie says:

      Where’d “broken arm” come from? Injured Arm was the dispatch. Around here, when somebody gripes about a minor use of force, or someone’s shaken up in a domestic dispute, the medics will be called to check them out. Usually takes about ten minutes, and there’s no cost if there’s no transport. The ambulance was on scene 9 minutes and 22 seconds.

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      • Justice_099 says:

        So, who do you think it was called for? Something, somehow coincidentally unrelated?

        And yes, injured arm, sorry.

        That’s why posted this for discussion. Coincidence just seems pretty far fetched to me. So I am interested to see if we can reconcile this somehow.

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        • Armie says:

          There’s nothing I’ve come up with that would rule out anybody but Freddie. Anyone else could be the cause or the victim. It just seems like the ambulance call not coming in until six minutes after Freddie left in the van kind of rules out it being for him, barring some pretty unlikely dispatch error. So I don’t think we’re in disagreement unless your theory is that they waved bye-bye to Freddie, waited six minutes, then called and I don’t think you’ve ever suggested that.

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          • Justice_099 says:

            No. Not all. It seems clear at this point that it was not called for Freddie, barring some other evidence of a weird mistake.

            What I am looking to discuss is how this stop might relate to the second passenger and finding more evidence to prove that it was NOT Donta Allen.

            As I posted above, if the injured arm call is related to the arrest at 1600, it doesn’t jibe with Donta’s version of why he was arrested. But it would possibly makes sense that someone violating a protective order had just injured someone.

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        • Jett Black says:

          This was clearly addressed, I think, yesterday. The dispatcher got two calls mixed up–there was a separate call at about the same time regarding an injured or broken arm. Also, EMS was taking longer than the Black Mariah wanted to wait, so they decided to head straight on to the station, left an officer to intercept EMS and redirect them to the station as well, which is what happened. It’s all documented with specific times and radio logs. Proves conclusively that the cops did not deny FG medical attention. He just mortally wounded himself, whether intentionally or by accident, before they could stop him.

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      • littlelaughters says:

        I haven’t posted this before because I’m not certain at all, but when I listened to the call it sounded to me that he said “An injured…uhm black male. Injured black male”. Not injured arm, but rather he said “uhm”.
        Like I said though, I could be wrong.

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    • I’m still sticking with “9:24:32 Medic called to Western District police station” being the first call for Freddie. We can’t always agree 😉 All part of the great process here, luv it.

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      • Justice_099 says:

        Read my response to Armie. I am NOT suggesting the call was for Freddie. I am just not ok with leaving it as some freak coincedence that some other patient just happened to be there completely unrelated to the stop.

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        • Armie says:

          I’m completely comfortable with the idea that the other patient could be related to the incident #2 was involved in.

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          • Justice_099 says:

            And to buy the story that Donta Allen was #2 as the media, prosecutor and everyone has just accepted as truth would mean that there is a very divergent story about his arrest than he has told. And if there was an injured arm involved because he assaulted someone, they wouldn’t have just said, “nevermind, you can go.”

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        • Coincidence can do that to ya 🙂 But like Armie also says below, even if the call was for Freddie then who was the ambulance for that came to that spot shortly later?

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      • Armie says:

        Yeah, I’m on board with that one too. Coincidence crops up either way. If you go with the 9:22 call on Pennsylvania being for Freddie, then you have to accept that there just happened to be a victim other that Freddie who stayed behind and met the ambulance. PoTAYto or PoTAHto.

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      • Justice_099 says:

        Example: If we suggested that Donta Allen requested the medical attention because he was claiming the cops hurt him during his arrest, then that would mean Donta was not taken in the van and was instead at the 1600 location still when the EMS arrived. So he STILL wouldn’t have been in the van and wouldn’t have been at the station when they found Freddie unresponsive.

        I guess what I am doing here is trying to determine what it could NOT be in order to eliminate things and reduce it down to a list of possibilities that it could be. A completely unrelated, freak coincidence is a possibility. That just seems unlikely enough to me not to just accept it outright and move on.

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        • Well, here’s the thing, I don’t think we’ll ever know. If it’s not Freddie or Donta then it’s doubtful it’s in any evidence. One thing that for sure will be ruled out is Freddie because the police dispatch will have the audio of the call for Freddie and Event Report that corresponds to it which like I’ve said before was what was most certainly read from at the press conference when they gave the first timeline of 9:24:32.

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          • Armie says:

            BTW: That find you made on the CCTV tapes was a major score. Almost all the arrest’s there, there’s lots of possible witnesses, etc. But the big find is that the time of day seems to be in sync from camera to camera, so those who are scanning the other cameras will be able to go directly to the spot. You’ve cut the haystack down to a tiny little patch of grass.
            Bravo!!

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    • Amity says:

      One flaw in your theory is that some people living off the government call for an ambulance over anything. The EMTs will argue and try to convince them to get someone to drive them to the hospital, but if the sick or injured person insists they have no one with a car to take them, they’ll get an ambulance ride. That’s the way it worked here a while back, anyhow, when we had some neighbors who got ambulance rides a couple of times for non-emergency stuff.

      I know there have been efforts to limit that sort of thing, but I doubt they are 100% effective.

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  6. Doug Nash says:

    Officer Alicia White; black woman. Officer Edward Nero; white male. Can’t make it up.

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  7. RJ says:

    Look at the picture of the Attorney Mosby as presented above; does she not suggest by her visual attitude a smugness, a “get out of here Whitey” mentality? Or am I just projecting? Where are the pics of her smiling and being friendly to those not of her ethnic origin? Why does it appear she is on a mission? An axe to grind? Wrongs that need to be righted?

    She just might have the same “chip on her shoulder” that Barack Hussein O. has festered since his youth and perhaps hers. Hiding, right there, out in the open for all to see!

    I am not comfortable with these types, I am prejudiced due to my histories, a prejudice that comes up before me, makes me aware I have doubts, and opens my eyes as best as possible while treating the unfolding events with as clear a perspective I can create and debate with others for assurance. My senses have been conditioned by life experiences and observations. I just don’t like what appears to be her attitude. Time will tell if my earlier hunches and fears prove to be accurate.

    I think she is a racist, just like Barack is…in my mind. Perhaps I need to re-read the discourses of Epictetus.

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    • doodahdaze says:

      Whitey should get outta there. I would. So should the cops. Obama can turn it in to a chocolate reservation. They are waging a war on whites, cops, and western civ.

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  8. jc says:

    Saw CNN interview of BPD chief, his body language said much more than his words. The reporter (hispanic Hispanic) asked him about the investigation and the chief said he had 40-50 skilled investigators working on it and Mosby had 4 or 5 and Mosby finished first called him 10 mins before her showtime press conference. Interviewer asked the Chief about the impact on his team of investigators – and what he couldn’t express in words came out in body language. Mosby has created an impossible,demoralizing situation for the entire BPD. Chief said Mosby contacted the BPD investigators a few times during the investigation so the two weren’t completely independent. I appreciate the need for Prosecutor to maintain objectivity but this circus goes way beyond objectivity, as a matter of fact Mosby is completely lacking objectivity, she is part of the mob just in a blue pant suit.

    Abundantly obvious that Mosby doesn’t trust BPD at all, and I’m sure the feelings are returned. Also abundantly obvious that Mosby didn’t devote the time and resources to conduct an investigation sufficient to support the serious charges she filed. She worked it backwards, started drafting the Probable cause and then had handful of her investigators darting around looking for stuff that might support the charges. A cafeteria investigation, picking and choosing what to present.

    The BPD investigation will be her bane, rich in facts and documentation for defendants lawyers to use, their turn to pick and choose. (Has the entire document been made public yet, Freddie’s autopsy?)

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    • wondering999 says:

      Looked for the interview — is this it? CNN Evan Perez with Baltimore Police Commissioner Anthony Batts?
      http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/05/politics/anthony-batts-baltimore-police-riots-problem/index.html

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      • art tart says:

        wondering999 ~ yes indeed, Batts had so much he wanted to say but couldn’t.

        I like Batt’s, he’s in a tough spot, although he has spoken out about Gray not being secured/seat belted & against BPD policy, it seems that should have been filed in a Civil Suit instead of criminal charges. The family no doubt will file a Civil Suit.

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    • dalethorn says:

      I got the idea she had to at least pretend she was gonna lynch the police just to stop the riots.

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      • Amity says:

        That will backfire on her, if so. Telling people, “Okay, you get your way… oops, changed my mind!” is a stupid way to try to prevent riots.

        What would ultimate stop the riots is more leaders standing up and saying, “The law has not failed when bad people do bad things, because bad people will always do bad things, and sometimes those bad people are cops. Justice is ‘innocent until proven guilty’ — so we need to arrest them when we can prove our charges against them, and not before.”

        Booker T. Washington’s entire strategy is a bit outdated (publicly demanding justice makes a lot more sense now), but his fundamental argument that, “Don’t worry about the bigger picture until you make a difference in your own life by getting a job and becoming a productive member of society” is still absolutely valid. Unfortunately, most black leaders right now are in the W.E.B. du Bois mold — “we’re the smart guys who will take care of you, so what you need to do to better your life is give us more power.”

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      • punkinseed says:

        I think you’re right. She’s into the “fame” of it all. Imagine the fake praise from the BGI making her feel so important. What’s really bad is she doesn’t know she’s dancing with the devil in the pale moonlight and her self importance and wanting to be the heroine in all of this is ruining people’s lives. She’s not very good at acting, that’s for sure. Good lawyers are good at pretending.

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    • art tart says:

      jc ~ yes, the BPD investigators information will be a wealth of information for the Defense Attorney’s, lots of depositions to hopefully help the Officers. She was stupid to not even check the information the BPD invesitgators found on the knife, I guess she was so arrogant she didn’t trust their investigation, now it appears their information will be used to discredit her case. KARMA.

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  9. The photo of this ‘xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx’ says everything; just look at the smug, proud, I’m infallible look of contempt on her miserable face. Only a few decades ago, she’d be xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx in public for the folks to see what happens when you screw over the people you’re supposed to be serving.

    *Edit to remove vulgarity by Sundance

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    • doodahdaze says:

      Black Pantherette.

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    • canadacan says:

      I consider that look aggressive and hostile.
      That’s how she gets what she wants ,she’s done it her whole life.
      Pushiness typical of women in the urban ghetto culture.I am special I am entitled I’m a product of affirmative action.
      One of our contributors, a black lady,said she had rented to people like that before.
      What she is entitled to is 10 years in the can.

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      • She and Michelle Obama have that same ‘lower jaw jutted out’ look. When I see that in a female I stay clear. It’s a sure sign of hostility.

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        • joanfoster says:

          Sisters born of a different mother. This nonsense is what George Bush says about “his brother”, Bill Clinton. Brothers from a different mother.
          As to the “lower jaw” look of hostility, I pass it daily on the street. You have to step off the sidewalk not to run into the “chip” on their shoulders. Moochelle, must sleep in an Extra King to get her to rest on a pillow.

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          • punkinseed says:

            That lower jaw jutting is body language that to me translates to contempt. And after her and Michelle’s contempt jaw comes arrogance and hubris. We avoid the women like that too because that jaw and contemptuous look is the one we’d get just before two or three of them would crowd in line as if it’s their right to do it.

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    • RJ says:

      Ouch! Can’t believe you got away with that first line…demonstrates a need to return the draft–at least for common street understanding! Side Note: My thoughts entirely!

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    • wizzum says:

      You don’t need to use that word. Phonetic spelling is just the same.

      Moderators, please.

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    • Jett Black says:

      Moderators! Clean up on this aisle please! Re: Mosby’s expressions–one thing we need to recognize and deal with objectively is the physical fact that black African facial structures and musculature are different from Caucasian/European. What looks like a scowl on an Anglo can be a neutral expression no an African. Now Mosby certainly does seem by her words and deeds to be an aggressive/defensive, entitled, egoistic, tribal, PITA of an individual, but focusing on her “tough prosecutor” expressions in still photos is kind of juvenile. Let’s stick to what’s really being said and done, not how people look on the surface.

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      • Les says:

        “What looks like a scowl on an Anglo can be a neutral expression no an African.”
        What? No. Some people have resting-b*tch-face because they don’t smile. Scowls and smiles come from the expression in your eyes. Some people are sullen. Black people don’t look mean in general. Just the mean ones… Same with sour white people and crotchety Asians and annoyed American Indians (Native American isn’t PC anymore, indian is okay again).

        “the physical fact that black African facial structures and musculature are different from Caucasian/European.”
        http://i60.tinypic.com/2a7an2b.jpg haha

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    • JB from SoCal says:

      “Char . . .” errr, Whiskey — Tango — Foxtrot?

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  10. doodahdaze says:

    The former SA was just up on CNN calling for action against Mosby. Cwoomo or whatever that fools name in was in shock and babbling.

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  11. doodahdaze says:

    There does not seem to be anything here in this arrest that differs from the routine. The perp died is the only aberration I can see. The ME finding murder and homicide is the main problem with this case. My bet is that he was strongarmed, or complicit, in this fraud. Yes, it looks like another BGI fraud. It has all the signs and symptoms for a positive diagnosis.

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  12. Marilyn “Black Power Look” Mosby;

    “Mr. Gray was rushed to the University of Maryland Shock Trauma…”

    Yes, I think it’s safe to assume that when the medic left he did so in haste to the hospital no need to dramatize it, however;

    9:33:xx Medic arrives at Western District Police Station
    9:37:xx EMS Dispatch reports non breathing
    9:41:xx EMS Dispatch reports for more assistance
    9:54:xx Medic departs

    21 minutes

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    • Armie says:

      So it was a slow rush. Nah, not really… just kidding. These were ALS level paramedics, they could do pretty much everything an ER would initially do to get him functioning. They got him ticking again, they stabilized him, then they transported. Twenty minutes is in the normal range for that. I’d love to know if some Narcan was involved in that on-scene treatment.

      By the way, the nickname for the old style approach to on scene medical care that she seems to be familiar with is “scoop and scoot”. You scoop up the patient and scoot to the hospital with them. It’s still indicated in rare events, but not seen much anymore.

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  13. SouthCentralPA says:

    Maryland is a relatively small state, so there’s a lot of stuff that starts with UM-. For whatever it’s worth, a few things that I’ve seen people get wrong (used to live near there, got OUT). I mention these not to nitpick, but because we’re not the MSM, so if we miss a comma, people try and dismiss us.

    Shock Trauma is at the UMMC. University of Maryland Medical Center.

    UMBC is the University of Maryland-Baltimore County, which is out in Catonsville. It has no particular relation to any hospital, and so far as I can tell it has nothing to do with this case.

    University of Maryland, Baltimore, is the “urban campus” of the University of Maryland. It has the Medical School, Law School, Social Work school, etc. It is not the University of Baltimore, which is private and second-rate.

    Take it for whatever it is worth to you…

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    • JB from SoCal says:

      Thanks, SouthCentralPA from me, a.k.a. (roots in) SouthWesternPA

      Always thought College Park was the home base, didn’t realize the significance of Balto, having all those Professional schools there. Hope they don’t get burned down.
      Also, forced me to look up “testudo” LOLZ. Gotta love this amazing website and all the interesting folks here!

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  14. mickie says:

    I could be wrong, but I think the ME said HOMICIDE(death by another) not MURDER. The charge is murder, correct? One thing about this case and others involving LE, the talking heads always bring up $ybrina. I suppose they didn’t pay attention to the trial or the verdict.BURNS ME UP!

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    • Vivid Blue says:

      You are correct in that the ME finding cause of death homicide does not equal murder. But considering Mosby cited MD law on the pca instead of the Baltimore Code about the the legality of the knife, she may not understand what the ME meant when he stated cod was homicide.

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  15. GrimmTale says:

    Great information (diwataman2014)- and as always – great information throughout this blog.
    Thank you for your time/efforts with this fiasco!

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  16. joanfoster says:

    http://pagecroyder.blogspot.com/2015/05/baltimores-hasty-prosecutor.html

    Someone posted this site on another thread. Spend some time reading the older posts. It won’t take long to realize that Baltimore has a long history of corruption within the criminal justice system. There seems to be no good people who want to run for State’s Attorney.

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  17. Vivid Blue says:

    Legal Insurrection has a new post up on the case and how it is unraveling. http://legalinsurrection.com/2015/05/freddie-gray-case-is-prosecution-already-unraveling/#more-126121

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    • jc says:

      I assume Mosby’s office took possession of the knife and is contemplating a switch.

      I’m sure the BPD special investigation group has multiple close up photos of the original knife, make, model, possibly serial number.

      Mosby is so brazen and stupid that tampering with evidence is not beyond the pale “by any means necessary”

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    • Vivid Blue says:

      So, let’s assume Donta Allen was the second passenger. (I still don’t trust him)

      1- Donta was never put in leg irons, I am sure he would have mentioned it if he had been. Thus the officers placing Gray in leg irons 6 mins into the journey would indicate Gray was not acting in a peaceful way those 6 minutes, requiring further restraint unlike the 2nd passenger.

      2- This fits with the 2nd passenger hearing banging from Gray. Gray was obviously not sitting still. He was banging himself around, because Donta said it was a smooth ride.

      3- SD pointed out in another thread. Allen said that once they got to the Western District, officers started to write out a citation for him but didn’t even present it to him and instead took him down to the homicide unit. But Gray wouldn’t die until a week later.

      Points 1 & 2 lend support to the possibility that Gray may have injured himself during the trip. To what extent we don’t know.

      Point 3 is very fishy to me. Why take the 2nd passenger down to homicide when there isn’t a death yet? I think Donta is lying or something wacky went on if that statement was true.

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      • auscitizenmom says:

        I think there is no doubt that “something wacky went on” and that “someone” is lying.

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        • joesbabygirl says:

          I don’t believe this has been pointed out here in the CTH, forgive me for reasserting if it has.

          If Freddie was injured with an “80% spinal cord severance, and from what I have heard, surgery that was done were on vertebra C4 and/or above.

          IF his spinal cord was severed inside that van or before, He would not have been able to move anything below his shoulders. Doctor’s said “he would have been a paraplegic had he lived”.

          That being said, if true; Freddie was not tapping on anything inside the van in the last minutes of the ride.

          Either Dante is lying about the “tapping” OR, the severance of the spinal cord was done while Dante was in the van, shortly before arriving at the police station. Dante has said there was a “smooth ride”. If true, the injury occurred during the last few minutes of the ride, or after Freddie arrived at the station.

          If his story doesn’t change, and it proves that the spinal cord was severed in his neck, He would be a very bad witness for the prosecution.

          He could not have been “thrashing around and tapping” inside the van if his spinal cord was severed at C4 or above; also, he would probably have needed a respirator to aid in breathing. Which, according to reports, he wasn’t; when he arrived at the station.

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      • John Galt says:

        “Why take the 2nd passenger down to homicide when there isn’t a death yet?”

        Cuz Mosby charged the driver with murdering Freddie on April 12, at various locations around Baltimore, a week before he died in the hospital. The error in the script carried through to multiple scenes in the Kabuki theater.

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  18. This is why I don’t like Social Justice Crusaders – they don’t care who gets caught in the crossfire. The more I hear about this case, the more it looks like Mosby is lying through her teeth in pursuit of her own agenda. You’d think she could remember that people are innocent until proven guilty in this country. But no, the agenda takes precedence… and the agenda makes no sense either.

    (I feel like this whole “black man killed by racist cops” is stuck on repeat. Haven’t I seen this before-before-before-….?)

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    • jason says:

      Mosby’s not the only one, why did the mayor’s choose to mention “If you’re racist.. we have no room for you in the BPD” in her PC after the charges were announced?

      Agenda definitely trumping justice. Lynch has arrived to add the next part to the narrative. The racist pattern and practices of the black run police department 😦

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    • doodahdaze says:

      On this scheme of things, a king is but a man; a queen is but a woman; a woman is but an animal; and an animal not of the highest order. . . . On the scheme of this barbarous philosophy, which is the offspring of cold hearts and muddy understandings, and which is as void of solid wisdom, as it is destitute of all taste and elegance, laws are to be supported only by their terrors, and by the concern, which each individual may find in them, from his own private speculations, or even spare to them from his own private interests. In the groves of their academy, at the end of every vista, you see nothing but the gallows. . . . When the old feudal and chivalrous spirit of Fealty, which, by freeing kings from fear, freed both kings and subjects from the precautions of tyranny, shall be extinct in the minds of men, plots and assassinations will be anticipated by preventive murder and preventive confiscation, and that long roll of grim and bloody maxims, which form the political code of all power, not standing on its own honor, and the honor of those who are to obey it. Kings will be tyrants from policy when subjects are rebels from principle. . . . (Edmund Burke, Reflections on the Revolution in France)

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  19. mickie says:

    I keep hearing about the knife, “was it legal”?, but wasn’t there a warrant out on him? To me, that’s reason for arrest. Am I wrong?

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    • jason says:

      appears he’d already been brought in for the warrant in March. Someone had posted in an earlier thread that Freddie was placed on probation for one of his earlier run-ins with the law I am pretty sure they determined he was still on probation but not 100%.

      Making a bit of an assumption of the details of that probation (based on viewing requirements outlined in another case), having a concealed weapon would be a violation and basis for arrest.

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  20. Michael says:

    Found this and thought you may like it.

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  21. doodahdaze says:

    The ME is the key and his cause of death fraud. Proximate Causation and Foreseeability to name a couple.
    There are problematic causes of death that the legal system struggles with when deciding a defendant’s liability. In order to be liable, the actions must be the legal cause of death by being the causation in fact and the proximate cause of the fatal injuries. Each jurisdiction has established case law in deciding whether causation in fact and proximate causation exist. For causation in fact, most jurisdictions use the “but for” test or the “substantial factor” test when intervening events or actors are present. The definition of proximate causation varies but in general is broadly predicated on foreseeability. In Tennessee criminally negligent homicide cases, proximate causation is met if the death is the natural and probable result of the defendant’s actions. In addition, foreseeability also is important when intervening events or actions occur that might constitute superseding causes of death. This foreseeability standard is evident in Tennessee criminal and tort case law. To be culpable of criminal homicide in Tennessee, a death with intervening events or third-party actions must not be too unexpected, unforeseeable or remote from the defendant’s actions. For Tennessee tort liability, the defendant’s actions must be a substantial factor in causing the harm with any intervening events reasonably foreseen.

    By aiding the trier of fact in their determination of whether the defendant’s actions are the actual cause of death, the medical examiner plays an important role when certifying the cause and manner of death. Like the legal system, the medical examiner encounters issues with problematic deaths that include nonspecific tissue reactions, multiple competing autopsy findings, nonuniformity over manners of death, and various degrees of certainty. In order to understanding fully these problems, the attorney should meet with the medical examiner to discuss the factors leading to the ruling, review the findings of the autopsy and ask for the rationale behind the cause and manner of the death. The attorney should also research any other pertinent medical complete evaluation of the potential legal causation issues and ensure effective advocacy in complicated deaths.

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  22. doodahdaze says:

    Attention all non-communist whites and cops in Baltimore. Head for the hills and get out to safe zones NOW!! The BGI mayor is up to announce a “Partnership” with the Obama DOJ…..Escape while you can!!

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  23. doodahdaze says:

    Time for a police exodus from the former american city of Baltimore. The Obama reservation should be stripped of its name. These people are out of control.

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  24. Vivid Blue says:

    Oh Snap More problems for Mosby’s PCA against the officers. Double jeopardy!
    http://pjmedia.com/andrewmccarthy/2015/05/05/beware-baltimores-no-justice-no-peace-prosecutor/?singlepage=true
    FTA: ” Under double jeopardy principles, the defendants cannot be convicted on all the varying homicide charges she has brought…… Ms. Mosby has filed charges that convey four different theories of homicide.” (In Officer Goodson’s case)

    I recommend reading the whole article. Very enlightening.

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    • doodahdaze says:

      Attention Baltimore cops. Quit today and escape to safe areas! There are big demands in the safe zones for good cops. It is a declared war on cops in Baltimore.

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    • doodahdaze says:

      Jury…In Baltimore…nope. Bench trial and hope the judge does not have CRS agents in his chambers. Ordered Liberty Big Yes!!! Before the Total Incorporation of the Warren Court in the 60’s from which our current trouble arose.

      ordered liberty n
      :
      freedom limited by the need for order in society NOTE: The concept of ordered liberty was the initial standard for determining what provisions of the Bill of Rights were to be upheld by the states through the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. Today the Fourteenth Amendment is generally seen as encompassing all of the guarantees bearing on fundamental fairness that are included in or that arose from the Bill of Rights rather than a small class of provisions essential to ordered liberty.

      http://www.orderedliberty.org/

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      • Jett Black says:

        There will be a change of venue. The case will be tried, if at all, out in the burbs somewhere, not in Baltimore City.

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    • BobNoxious says:

      The double jeopardy issue only comes into play if she tried submit all of the charges to the jury.

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    • John Galt says:

      “Ms. Mosby has filed charges that convey four different theories of homicide.”

      And she has yet to set forth even a single theory of causation.

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      • doodahdaze says:

        Do you think that the tax base should retreat to another city and establish Galtimore? Maybe Ocean City?

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  25. doodahdaze says:

    They mayor newz conference is jaw dropping.

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  26. mazziflol says:

    A comment I read elsewhere said per CBS Radio News at 0700MDT
    “prosecutor’s office was withholding defense inspection of the knife because it was “evidence”.
    Id like to find that audio or get a transcript…

    Some interesting things out of the B Sun:

    “In a statement Tuesday, Mosby said “the evidence we have obtained through our independent investigation does substantiate the elements of the charges filed.”
    She chastised anyone in “law enforcement with access to trial evidence, who has or continues to leak information prior to the resolution of this case.”
    “These unethical disclosures are only damaging our ability to conduct a fair and impartial process for all parties involved,” she said.
    Her spokeswoman did not return an email asking what disclosures Mosby was talking about.”

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-freddie-gray-statements-20150505-story.html#page=1

    I thought her own team said the knife was illegal. Is this the leak she is referring to?

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  27. Ziiggii says:

    this from Paul Gardner’s Instagram account:

    So, NOI has a para-military branch that “works security” at all of their temples. The “Fruit of Islam” has an estimated 10,000 – 50,000 members with a female wing, Muslim Girls Training (MGT).
    Question:
    How can an organization have such a large para-military group and not be scrutinized by the Feds?

    One would assume that if it is a para-military group that they would have some sort of weapons cache. And with that many members that weapons cache would be large. Large enough to be questioned by some alphabet soup agency.

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    • doodahdaze says:

      A new city should be founder outside of Baltimore. Galtimore. Whites and non-BGI blacks could escape there and bring their assets with. The last one out can bring the flag.

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    • nivico says:

      Tracy ‘Fruit’ Martin … ???

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    • wondering999 says:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_of_Islam
      The Wiki page for FOI has some interesting links, including a 1996 40-page PDF “Federal Funds for NOI Security Firms: Financing Farrakhan’s Ministry of Hate”. Wonder what Southern Poverty Law Center (or CNN or CBS or ABC or NBC?) has to say about FOI?

      From the PDF:

      “The Nation of Islam claims to have created employment for blacks, to offer inner-city housing residents new hope, and to emphasize a message of self-reliance, hard work and clean living. In reality, the Nation of Islam remains a mirror image of the Ku Klux Klan: preaching a liturgy in which Jews are “bloodsuckers,” whites are “devils,” and separate states for the races are imperative. A de facto arm of the group reaps millions in income from public contracts, animating concern that taxpayers are subsidizing a ministry of hate.

      “The Nation of Islam’s vaunted security business – hailed by supporters as a savior of inner-city public housing projects and an example of the group’s “good works” – has racked up a passel of troubles recently: a major bankruptcy, substantial Federal and state tax liens, and bid- and license-related investigations. Meanwhile, as Congress scrutinizes Federally subsidized contracts with the NOI, reports of violent incidents have surfaced in several jurisdictions. In Baltimore, witnesses say guards fractured a public housing resident’s skull and, in Dallas, NOI guards allegedly kidnapped unruly youths from a shopping mall and forced them to run naked through a gantlet of NOI men who beat them with belts and bamboo canes.’

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      • wondering999 says:

        Here’s SPLC’s take:
        http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups/nation-of-islam

        “Farrakhan …it seems unlikely that NOI’s legacy of racism will die with him. This is particularly true given that to this day, NOI members continue to promote racist and anti-Semitic ideas. A case in point is Ashahed Muhammad, a prominent NOI member and author of Synagogue of Satan, a book advertised on NOI’s website that alleges, once again, a Jewish conspiracy to control the federal government. Muhammad runs the Truth Establishment Institute website, which, alongside Synagogue of Satan and The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews, offers works by the likes of Mark Weber, a former member of the neo-Nazi National Alliance and the long-time leader of the Holocaust-denying Institute for Historical Review. As a younger generation of NOI leaders rises to prominence, it is thus decidedly unclear whether NOI will be able to shed its legacy of hate.

        Woah! If I were part of the Baltimore Jewish community I’d be thinking about what’s next here. “Never again” indeed.

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      • doodahdaze says:

        As you can see this is a communist attack. There is no other conclusion once the facts are applied. The communist infiltration of the country. All this racial stuff is a smokescreen. It is all about redistribution by the ROTUS. Not POTUS. Obama is the ROTUS.

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    • Stephen says:

      How can an organization have such a large para-military group and not be scrutinized by the Feds?

      Black privilege.

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    • Les says:

      Strange Fruit
      By Billie Holiday and Abel Meeropol (1937)

      Southern trees bear strange fruit,
      Blood on the leaves and blood at the root,
      Black bodies swinging in the southern breeze,
      Strange fruit hanging from the poplar trees.

      Pastoral scene of the gallant south,
      The bulging eyes and the twisted mouth,
      Scent of magnolias, sweet and fresh,
      Then the sudden smell of burning flesh.

      Here is fruit for the crows to pluck,
      For the rain to gather, for the wind to suck,
      For the sun to rot, for the trees to drop,
      Here is a strange and bitter crop.

      Fruit of Islam is the most ill-conceived moniker they could have chosen.

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    • James F says:

      Here is the fruit muhamhead used to describe black people.

      Mohammed referred to Blacks as “raisin heads”. (Sahih al-Bukhari vol. 1, no. 662 and vol. 9, no. 256).

      In another Hadith, Mohammed is quoted as saying that Blacks are, “pug-nosed slaves”. (Sahih Moslem vol. 9, p. 46-47).

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      • Les says:

        I like this story:

        A black man came to see the Prophet Muhammad in one of his raids, and asked him: “What will I get if I fight those people with you?” The Prophet Muhammad said to him: “You will go to Paradise.” The man said “Oh Prophet of Allah, I am black, I smell bad, and I have no money. If I am killed, will I still go to Paradise?” The Prophet Muhammad said: “Yes. I swear by Allah.” Then the man said: “Allah will surely witness what I will do.”

        NOI has zero sense.

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  28. doodahdaze says:

    Doo Dah Predicts. As these BGI policies take effect in the major urban zones they will enact local “exit fee and tax” as white flight becomes a stampede and biz shuts down and tries to escape.

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  29. doodahdaze says:

    As the Obammunists begin to implement their program of tactical retreat by the popo in the event of encountering a black criminal. Tactical retreat by the law abiding non-communist citizens in the zones they control is prudent. IOW….Get out of Dodge!
    http://www.leoaffairs.com/news/tactical-retreat-new-normal/

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    • goodoldboy66 says:

      It seems that civilians, businesses and insurance companies will continue to lose as a result of this tactical retreat notion or as I call it ‘tacit permission’ to commit crimes. Yes I realize there is a difference btwn Wilson-Brownstain and numerous LEO’s and a crowd of rioters. 144 cars burned and 200 businesses attacked is a high price for ‘pussy-policing’ as advocated by liberals.

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      • doodahdaze says:

        Personally, I would be packing and selling out as fast as I could while there is time. This city is gone. There is no chance of restoration. It is a blight upon the USA.

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  30. goodoldboy66 says:

    Am I correct in thinking there is a difference btwn an EMS OPERATOR and EMS DISPATCHER?
    1. EMS-Oper.: takes calls on the phone from civilians per se and passes to EMS Dispatcher.
    2. EMD-Disp.: receives/ coordinates requests from EMS-Operator and LE and others over the radio.

    We want to know about the broken arm call and Dispatcher recordings we’ve heard aren’t providing clarity? Then it may be that The EMS OPERATOR’s digital recording of initial call by civilian requesting assistance for broken arm is the definitive information needed.

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  31. so now that the baltimore mayor is requesting DOJ to investigate the PD whats the over/under that the investigation will “discover” instances of systemic racism and or civil rights violations throughout the PD?

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    • Jett Black says:

      Disparate impact. 100% chance that will be the finding. No consideration will be given to the fact that people in, e.g. Roland Park (white, upper-crust B’more), ain’t committin’ no crimeses.

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  32. doodahdaze says:

    The basis for this railroading of the cops is the ME ruling of homicide. This is an opinion. He is considered an expert witness by the nature of his position. However he can and should be challenged in a Daubert Hearing. The defense can get their own expert to refute him pre-trial. Even if denied by a crooked BGI Judge it will be on the record for appeal. No Homicide-No Crime. To me the ME is the fishiest of the fish in this travesty.

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    • doodahdaze says:

      Whups Maryland is still Frey. But the ME theory of causation should be attacked ASAP.

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    • You’re absolutely correct and there’s no doubt that his finding of Homicide will be challenged.

      One does not have to be a doctor, forensic pathologist, or genius to see that this should have been concluded as UNDETERMINED 😮

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  33. FlatFoot says:

    Baltimore Mayor Announces Partnership With Justice Department

    Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake announced a new partnership with the Department of Justice on Wednesday. Rawlings-Blake said the city and the DOJ will team up to reform the Baltimore City Police Department. “We all know that Baltimore continues to have a fractured relationship between the police and the community,” Rawlings-Blake said, noting that the recent death of 25-year-old Freddie Gray while in police custody contributed to that strained relationship.

    “We have to get it right,” she added. “Failure is not an option.”

    Rawlings said she’s asked the DOJ to investigate patterns of practices within the Baltimore City Police Department that could contribute to the use of excessive force.

    “At the end of this process, I will hold those accountable, if change is not made,” Rawlings-Blake said.

    Rawlings said the Baltimore City Police Department will have body cameras for officers by the end of this year. She also noted the officers’ Bill of Rights could be updated.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/06/baltimore-justice-department_n_7221624.html

    B’more Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake … running cover for her close friend AG Marilyn Mosby and the AG’s B’more City Councilman husband Nick Mosby, and completely washing her hands of any and all responsibility for anything and everything — including their collective sheer incompetence — and putting the onus of accountability and punishment on “The People” via the morbidly obese Government and DoJ. 100% pure USDoJ Choice Pontius Pilate.

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    • jason says:

      It’s the first step in creating Zero’s national police force.
      http://www.cops.usdoj.gov/policingtaskforce

      I pray the someone is able and willing to put a stop to this. They continually mention body cameras, yet the clear goal is to fundamentally change policing and not for the better, at least for the ones who actually follow the law :/

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    • jason says:

      hmmm… seems this ‘review’ has been ongoing since October,, 2014?

      U.S. Department of Justice Announces Collaborative Reform Initiative with Baltimore Police Department
      http://www.cops.usdoj.gov/Default.asp?Item=2748

      No wonder why the report will be ready in a few weeks. Wonder how soon well see some national event occur in other areas who are undergoing the same ‘reform initiative’.

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      • nivico says:

        It’ll be interesting to compare and contrast the differences between the DOJ’s report on Ferguson PD and its report on Baltimore PD…

        I’m guessing the Baltimore report will include less vitriol and innuendo… but then again, Baltimore does seem to have embraced class action litigation as a means of wealth redistribution. They may actually ~want~ the DOJ to find patterns and practices and disparate impact to give low income residents standing to sue. And of course, the lawyers getting a %33 cut of the settlement is a factor as well 😉

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    • Jett Black says:

      “Failure is not an option.” Agreed. It is a certainty.

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  34. BobNoxious says:

    Check this out!

    Freddie duck into a door of one of the apartment buildings… That might explain how/why he seemed to double back and get arrested at the same spot he passed a minute or so earlier; however, it also might explain how he received an injury- if that building had some sort of balcony or if he fell or tripped down some stairs while in the building.

    Here are the pics showing him enter a door into the apartment building:

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    • Good job, maybe investigators will go there and see, but unfortunately it’ll be up to defense investigators to find the facts and truth, well we do that as well, hope they’re reading 🙂

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      • BobNoxious says:

        I wish there was a camera that captured him when he re-emerged from the building. That would be incredibly helpful- as would a camera that captured the initial physical contact b/w the officers and Gray.

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  35. Don’t know if it’s important, but it sure looks like Gray has pissed himself. In the Kevin Moore video of the officers picking him up, there is a very obvious dark stain around his crotch area. Don’t know if this could be indicative of a medical issue.

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  36. pookiesmommie says:

    This is an extremely helpful website for searching Maryland criminal, traffic and civil cases.
    To me things are NOT adding up with Donta Allen age 22 (born between 1992 and 1993) in the case search results. The Donta Allen in the searches I did had several armed robbery convictions and was on probation but was not charges with theft on 4/12/2015 after being picked up for stealing….makes no sense to me. Also by using the date, location, age and charge for the 3rd passenger of the van ride to the station…I was able to come up with 3 possible matches….Johnson, Mack and Pinto. I have not added all info concerning these 3 men but anyone can search the site below to find additional info. I searched each letter of the alphabet for a partial last name, Baltimore county and an exact date to find my results.
    http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/casesearch/

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  37. jc says:

    Time to poison the juror well

    Baltimore Seeks Justice Department Inquiry Into Its Police Practices
    The mayor of Baltimore on Wednesday called for the Justice Department to conduct a civil rights investigation into her city’s Police Department and see if there are patterns of abuse or discrimination.

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  38. jason says:

    Not much time to go through it all, ,but one of the DOJ’s recent reports after analyzing the pattern and practice of the Spokane PD. After a quick scan much seemed reasonable, but these sections on pages 85 and 86 stood out to me.

    (p. 85) In addition, SPD recently implemented numerous changes to its organizational structure. As of January 23, 2014, civilian personnel now lead two of the police department’s divisions and report directly to the chief of police. The director of strategic initiatives within the SPD, a civilian appointed by the mayor, oversees both IA and training and reports to Chief Straub. As of May 2014, the former commander of the downtown precinct will oversee training and IA as the captain of the Office of Professional Oversight. The director of strategic initiatives is also more involved in oversight that his non-civilian predecessors. He sits in on all deadly force review boards (DFRB) and reviews all information forwarded from the chain of command to the use of force review board (UOFRB)

    (p. 86) A five-member Office of the Police Ombudsman Commission will also provide independent oversight of the OPO (Office of Police Ombudsman). This commission will comprise two members appointed by the mayor and three appointed by the city council, one from each
    council district. This commission can contract with an independent, third-party investigator to continue investigating a case that it believed was not thoroughly or adequately investigated by the SPD (note on P. 85 it states commission can conduct investigation if it disagrees with SPD and OPO investigations)

    link to report:http://ric-zai-inc.com/Publications/cops-w0751-pub.pdf

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    • jason says:

      a “duh?” moment from report on philadelphia from DOJ:
      (p. 21) Districts experiencing higher levels of gun violence and homicide generally experience higher levels of OISs (Officer Involved Shootings). The propensity for crime and violence in these areas results in calls for service and proactive police activity
      thus, PPD officers are likely to have more encounters with the public in these areas, including potentially violent crime suspects. As the data suggest, this correlated with higher numbers of OISs

      link:http://ric-zai-inc.com/Publications/cops-w0753-pub.pdf

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  39. nivico says:

    Gray family attorney slash Mosby campaign benefactor grilled about the conflict of interest… 😉

    Keep in mind that he’s an ex-judge feigning ignorance about the impropriety of the situation.

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    • nivico says:

      And here again is the relevant section of the ABA Commission’s findings re lawyers making campaign donations to judicial candidates:

      E. The Commission finds that when judges make decisions that
      favor contributors, they may be accused of favoritism.

      The judge who accepts a “contribution” in exchange for giving the contributor
      favorable treatment in a specific case, has committed a form of bribery that will
      subject the judge to disciplinary action for violation of the code of judicial conduct,
      criminal prosecution and removal from office. Such cases of outright bribery are
      rare, but situations in which members of the press or public call attention to what
      they regard as a suspicious correlation between a judge’s campaign contributions and
      the judge’s subsequent, favorable treatment of the contributor, are more common.

      F. The Commission finds a pervasive public perception that
      campaign contributions influence judicial decision-making.

      From the perspective of the public, the media, and many court reform organizations,
      the old adage that “money talks” is accepted wisdom when it comes to assessing
      whether judges are likely to be influenced by the campaign contributions they
      receive. The perception that judges are influenced by the contributors to their
      reelection campaigns is widespread. This “perceived impropriety” does not
      accompany all private contributions. Contributions of inconsequential amounts are
      insufficient to create a reasonable concern that they are capable of buying influence.
      More sizable contributions, however, are a different matter.

      http://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/migrated/judind/pdf/commissionreport4_03.authcheckdam.pdf

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    • Phae says:

      I thought he told FOX earlier his SON donated the money, not him. Anyone remember that? I can’t seem to find the clip

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    • nivico says:

      Now that the Baltimore Six are wanting to publicly defend themselves in the same media that they have been publicly accused in by Mosby… Mosby demands media silence.

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      • doodahdaze says:

        They are all in with the BGK. I no longer call it the BGI. It has metastasied. It is now the Black Grievance Klan. The President does not appear to be the President of the United States anymore. he seems to be President of the BGK. This is a vast BGK conspiracy afoot.

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  40. fred says:

    This may get lost in here but how funny an article out of the LATimes. It’s about a black police force in LA who worked for Kamala harris. Only problem they were not police. Gotta read this!!!!!
    ww.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-aide-harris-accused-rogue-police-force-20150505-story.html

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  41. BigMamaTEA says:

    Good read, Eric Rush, black conservative who sees the bigger picture.

    http://www.wnd.com/2015/04/baltimore-and-obamas-masterful-manipulation/

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  42. joesbabygirl says:

    Here are the credentials for the attorney who filed the motion for Officer Nero. I would say “wait list/low score Mosby is in over her head.

    Marc L. Zayon – Criminal and Civil Litigation, State and Federal Courts, Personal Injury, Worker’s Compensation
    Marc L. Zayon graduated with honors from the University of Baltimore School of Law where he excelled in criminal law and trial advocacy courses. He also graduated from the University of Maryland at College Park, with a degree in Government and Politics.

    In 1996, Marc L. Zayon became a member of the Maryland State Bar and immediately began to work as an Assistant State’s Attorney in Baltimore County where he prosecuted felony, misdemeanor, and traffic cases in the district, juvenile, and circuit courts. During Mr. Zayon’s tenure at the Baltimore County State’s Attorney Office, he was the Assistant State’s Attorney in charge of the juvenile division.

    Marc L. Zayon has received accommodation from the Maryland House of Delegates for his work as Assistant State’s Attorney. Mr. Zayon is a member of the Federal and State Bars as well as a member of the Maryland State Bar Association and the Baltimore County and Baltimore City Bar Associations.

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    • VegasGuy says:

      “Here are the credentials for the attorney who filed the motion for Officer Nero. I would say “wait list/low score Mosby is in over her head.”

      Looks like a “no contest” IMO…….LOL

      But, Mosby, being the arrogant “strong Black woman” she is, still believes she will prevail because she is the self proclaimed H.N.I.C.

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      • John Galt says:

        “wait list/low score Mosby”

        Having a substandard score on a qualification test would ordinarily not be something to brag about to the media. In Mosby’s case, I think it is offered up to demonstrate that the white man’s racist test is holding black people down. The same thing is currently happening in connection with the “war on women” scam. Women who can’t carry 50 lbs up a few flights of stairs nonetheless demand to be employed as firefighters because the white man’s standards constitute war on women. Women who do legitimately qualify are naturally upset.

        http://nypost.com/2015/05/03/woman-to-become-ny-firefighter-despite-failing-crucial-fitness-test/

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  43. Rachelle says:

    DAMPENED PAIN AND SELF HARM – Just a thought: Freddy’s autopsy showed he had heroine in his system. It isn’t widely known in the US, but heroin may be more effective managing pain than morphine and it is still used in the UK for treating severe pain. Could it be that the heroin in Freddy’s body prevented him from realizing (through pain) just how badly he was hurting himself when he was thrashing about in the van?

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    • rumpole2 says:

      Good point.
      I do hope that the Preliminary Hearing (if case lasts that long) will include at least some of the psychical and forensic evidence. Let’s hope that includes blood samples from time Freddie was admitted into hospital.
      The death (and autopsy) was performed a WEEK after the events, alleged to have caused Freddie’s death, so will not show drugs in his system at the alleged critical time. There wont be, for instance, analysis of stomach contents at that time.. which may have shown remnants of any drugs (and packaging) swallowed prior to death.

      I agree with Dman… a lot happened to Freddie AFTER the ride in the paddy wagon. There is at least room for “reasonable doubt”. Freddie’s injury could have at least been exacerbated during ride in ambulance, transfer on gurney to trauma ward, surgery itself, after surgery treatment for a week.

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      • jc says:

        Was Freddie’s broken neck identified soon after arrival at the hospital, I’m picturing an inner city hospital with drugged out prisoners falling off gurneys etc.

        Could Freddie have gone into spasms in the paddy wagon either because he swallowed a bag of drugs or because he wasn’t able to complete the transaction because the cops interfered, Sunday morning coming down – hard. 9AM sunday seems a little early for the neighborhood drug dealer

        Well, I woke up Sunday morning
        With no way to hold my head that didn’t hurt.
        And the beer I had for breakfast wasn’t bad,
        So I had one more for dessert.
        Then I fumbled in my closet through my clothes
        And found my cleanest dirty shirt.
        Then I washed my face and combed my hair
        And stumbled down the stairs to meet the day.

        I’d smoked my mind the night before

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  44. revbacon says:

    Turns out Mosby has a history of lying, including during her campaign. The page has been scrubbed from the internet, but it’s cached:

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BFoSmTAkFPsJ:dmvdaily.com/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_k2%26view%3Ditem%26id%3D538:state-s-attorney-candidate-caught-in-a-web-of-lies-and-mistruths%26Itemid%3D562+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    “It … seems as if the challenger for State’s Attorney, Marilyn Mosby, has gone beyond a mere slight of the tongue and has seemingly tried misleading the voters of Charm City.

    Mosby… has made some serious miscalculations when it comes to her claims to fame. The most glaring is what … happened in the tragic slaying of her cousin when she was 14-years old, which she says made her want to be an attorney.

    From day one, at her announcement to challenge first-term State’s Attorney Gregg Bernstein, Mosby claimed that she “saw the blood of her cousin on the front steps”, but that her neighbor was the one who actually witnessed the killing and helped prosecutors convict the man that did it. Now however, she has taken claim for witnessing the homicide herself, which is evident in a radio ad being run on WOLB1010AM, in which former Congressman Kweisi Mfume states that “as a child, Marilyn witnessed her own family member murdered”.

    Yet that didn’t seem to be the case early on, when she again stated in a video interview with Center Maryland that her neighbor actually witnessed the slaying. She spoke about her and that cousin discussing law school before he was murdered, though now states that it was her cousin’s slaying that prompted her to want to be an attorney?

    “This assertion is clearly a contradiction that can’t be shrugged off as some oversight or misspeaking by Mrs. Mosby, as her whole team has been touting the fact that she not only witnessed the homicide, but that she helped prosecutors convict the man who killed her cousin, which is clearly and blatantly untrue,” says independent political analyst, Shaun Louis.’

    There’s more stuff in there about misrepresenting the murder rates; then, this gem:

    ” Marilyn doesn’t seem to have a good grasp on current laws and procedures, and in my opinion, would spend the first four-years in over her head, while the city suffers – especially those of African descent.’

    If this has already been posted, I apologize.

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  45. skeptiktank says:

    Question for the legal eagles…If the knife turns out to be legal, but there were other charges that could have been brought, such as non compliance with a police officer or resisting arrest, is it still a false arrest?

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  46. DT says:

    I find Mosby’s statement released yesterday to be a bit odd. Nero’s attorney files a motion to inspect the knife. She issues a release that she won’t try the case in public. Nothing in the motion asks for Mosby to release or reveal the knife to the public, such a strange response. Also of note: it’s her first mention of “fair and impartial” I have seen mentioned. Perhaps tomorrow she can mention something about conducting a thorough investigation.

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    • jc says:

      she started trying the case in public by asserting it wasn’t a switchblade when the arrest docs and everybody else’s statements say it was an illegal switchblade like knife.

      We just want a chance to use our own lying eyes.

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    • James F says:

      Mosby does not want to try this case in the media?

      She embedded media reporters in her police task force for crying out loud.

      The Baltimore Sun was granted exclusive access to the task force and monitored the investigation for days. The Sun agreed not to publish details about the investigation until Baltimore State’s Attorney Marilyn J. Mosby decided whether to prosecute any of the officers involved in the Gray incident, though reporters continued to use other sources for information. On Friday, she announced charges against six officers.

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    • revbacon says:

      She’s a known liar so it’s hardly surprising she’d say that. But it looks like it was her and her deputy (Bledsoe) who leaked Donta Allen to Bledsoe’s lesbian lover Jayne Miller, who’s a reporter. If that’s not “trying the case in public,” I don’t know what is.

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