New Zoom Video – The Walter Scott / Officer Slager Taser Struggle…

In the very first media reports of the shooting by South Carolina officer Michael Slager of Walter Scott the North Charleston police were quoted as follows (Saturday April 4th):

FIRST MEDIA 4/4/15 […] Police in a matter of hours declared the occurrence at the corner of Remount and Craig roads a traffic stop gone wrong, alleging the dead man fought with an officer over his Taser before deadly force was employed.

[…] A statement released by North Charleston police spokesman Spencer Pryor said a man ran on foot from the traffic stop and an officer deployed his department-issued Taser in an attempt to stop him.

That did not work, police said, and an altercation ensued as the men struggled over the device. Police allege that during the struggle the man gained control of the Taser and attempted to use it against the officer. The officer then resorted to his service weapon and shot him, police alleged. (link)

A video containing part of the confrontation surfaced when eye-witness Feidin Santana contacted the family of Walter Scott the following day (Sunday); and then gave the video to South Carolina Law Enforcement Division (SLED) on Monday.

Officer Slager was arrested later Monday afternoon and charged with Murder before witness Santana was even interviewed.

The actual public display of the video began on Tuesday April 7th. With the immediate media storyline stating the original police statements were “false” and/or “factually inaccurate”.

The story became about “lying police”, and that specific narrative framed the media discussion for the next week. Even normally level-headed media punditry jumped into the PC fray for their pound of flesh shouting that Officer Slager falsified his statement(s).

However, with time, further careful research, and much closer looks at the video itself, it appears that nothing initially stated by South Carolina LEO, or more specifically Officer Michael Slager is false or incorrect.  [zoomed taser video by Bob]

It is reported that Officer Slager stated he had lost control/custody of the x26 Taser he deployed to restrain a non compliant Walter Scott.  Factually, no-one in the media has actually seen the initial report made by slager.  However, if you watch the video closely the Taser actually appears to have been used against Slager.

At least one dart appears lodged in the upper torso, chest, shirt area of Officer Slager.

walter scott tazer leads

If you review the raw footage (source New York Times) of the witness shooting video you can clearly see the wire from the Taser connected to Officer Slager.

Additionally, if you follow the wire you also recognize the cartridge from the Taser itself is being dragged behind the fleeing Walter Scott.

This is critical because the darts are on one end of the wire, and the cartridge is on the other end – usually the cartridge remaining in the trigger assembly. However, the cartridge is obviously dislodged from the trigger assembly during the struggle.

If the cartridge is dragging behind Scott -somehow tangled with his foot/shoe or leg – and the line is visibly taut (which it is) then the dart end is indeed attached to Officer Slager.

*NOTE* The civilian version of the x26 (x26C) only has 10-15′ of wire, but the LEO version is 25′ to 35′. From the imaging it appears the length is at least 25′.

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walter scott - taser s26 specs

This means when the Taser fired during the struggle, the dart ends most likely penetrated Slager, not Scott – OR Slager and Scott.

Factually this aligns with the recorded statement of Slager and the reports of his initial debriefing and incident report.

It could be that one dart is in the leg of Slager and the other is in the upper torso region as evidenced below.

Walter Scott - taser lead

This would also explain the picture of Slager being debriefed after the confrontation with his left pant leg folded up as he explains events to the documenting officer.

walter scott - slager - uniform debrief

Again, watch that moment in the short video here (suggest full screen)

Expanding these visuals and going back to the original source video taken by eye-witness Feidin Santana, an emerging picture comes to the surface. Officer Slager did in fact lose custody, or control, of the Taser to Walter Scott.

walter scott tazer

This puts Slager at a serious disadvantage and obvious risk.

Eye-witness Santana describes hearing the sound of the Taser in his statement (as shared by his attorney Todd Rutherford):

[…] After observing the two men struggle on the ground and hearing the sound of a Taser gun, I began filming the altercation with my cell phone”. (link)

Walter Scott - feidin santana statement

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The sounds of the Taser crackling are clearly evident in the very beginning of the video.

In the micro-seconds of decision-making, and having chased a fleeing suspect, and having physically struggled for almost two minutes, a scenario emerges where Slager -having lost the advantage of his Taser, and facing the risk of incapacitation from his own Taser being used against him – doesn’t realize (as they stand up – still fighting) the cartridge has dislodged from the trigger assembly.

The Taser wire is clearly still attached to Officer Slager as he draws his firearm to regain control against the risk presented by Scott. The whereabouts of the actual trigger assembly unknown to Slager but in the video you can see it landing behind them.

If you frame by frame the video you will note the wire is still attached to the torso of Slager, and tightening by the fleeing Scott, as Slager fires the first shot.

walter scott tazer leads

Between shots 1 and 2 the wire pulls free from the officer’s upper torso region as Scotts’ forward momentum dislodges it.  However, the wire is also still hung up on the foot/leg area of Scott as he runs away.  You can see the Taser cartridge bouncing along behind him.

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An argument can be made, and would be supported by factual evidence, that Officer Slager didn’t know Scott was not in possession of the trigger assembly. Slager now focused on using his firearm – this is all happening in microseconds.

Walter Scott - Feidin Santana

Video eye-witness Feidin Santana with his attorney Todd Rutherford visit with the family of Walter Scott and their attorney Chris Stewart – Friday 4/10/15.

[…] “He (Feidin Santana) checked Facebook to see if he knew anyone in common with the family, and found that they shared some friends. He asked one of those friends to make an unusual introduction. He showed the video to the Scott family on Sunday and turned it over to state investigators on Monday”…. (link)

♦ Saturday April 4th – Shooting occurs at approximately 9:30am

♦ Sunday April 5th – Santana shares the video with Walter Scott Family.

♦ Monday April 6th – Officer Slager arrested in the office of his attorney.  (*Note* Santana has not been interviewed by SLED prior to the arrest.)

♦ Tuesday April 7th – SLED releases the Official Arrest Warrant along with Public release of the video via New York Times.  Police Dept. announces Officer Slager fired.

♦ Wednesday April 8th – Witness Santana begins doing video interviews. – Dash Camera video is released showing uneventful traffic stop until Walter Scott flees vehicle.

♦ Thursday April 9th – SLED Press Release with details justifying their arrest.  Santana continues with New York Media circuit.

This video shows a running clock from the moment of Walter Scott running to the moments that follow.  This video allows you to see the length of the struggle.

Walter Scott map 2

When we begin to research the facts of controversial issues we eventually find the deconstruction of a false media narrative, and exposing how the media manipulates public opinion of events, ultimately becomes the purpose of our research more than anything else.

In case we have not said it clearly enough, allow me to repeat. We hold no opinion as to the Walter Scott shooting itself. These threads are to get to the FACTS of who, what, when and where; leading toward discussion of the possibilities inherent in the “why”.

You know, what the Fourth Estate used to do…

It is not a consequence of whether Michael Slager was right or wrong. Nor a matter of whether anyone “deserved” anything, or if anything was “justified”.

Just a simple search for the truth. The truth that has no agenda nor disposition toward anyone’s opinion of it.

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All of that said, you’d have to be blind to the events of the past 5 years regarding controversial violent encounters (Trayvon Martin, Mike Brown, Tony Robinson, etc) and the inherent manipulation of the details therein, not to notice that some evidence is released and some similar evidence brutally missing, for an very intentional purpose.

The South Carolina Walter Scott shooting -by Police Officer Michael Slager- is absolutely filled with intentionally missing elements in an effort by ALL INTERESTED PARTIES to sell a narrative useful for their purposes.

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What does that mean? It means this is not just a legal issue; it means the shooting is being manipulated for a political benefit; it means the substance in the media reports are there to sell a purposeful narrative from one singular perspective.

EXAMPLE: All of the police officers initial incident reports have been released, except Officer Slager.

Sure does make it easier to call Slager a liar without his statement, no?

If he really did lie on his statement, and considering everything SLED was so willing to advocate so quickly, why didn’t they release it to show what a rotten fibber he was?

South Carolina officials have set up their community, and the entire nation, for a total crisis when the legal case falls apart…..

…. Ask yourself why would they do that?

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267 Responses to New Zoom Video – The Walter Scott / Officer Slager Taser Struggle…

  1. doodahdaze says:

    How will Miss Scarlett get off the hot seat? I imagine she is trying her best.

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  2. doodahdaze says:

    I am happy others are starting to think their is no legal case to make. Or a hard one. Due to the law and rules. SLED is in a bind.

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  3. beaujest says:

    Somebody call Sean Hannity,he jumped the shark !

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    • Plain Jane says:

      So did Mark Levin and so did at least one a.m. Chicago (normally conservative programing) talk show host.

      We need to send these guys a synopsis of this link and the link. They are unwitting mouthpieces for, and accomplices to, the BGI.

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      • doodahdaze says:

        Trying for BGI Brownie Buttons. Quit placing so much faith in paid advocates. Think for yourself. These people have to get advertisers.

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        • PatriotUSA says:

          Too many DO NOT think for themselves and are content to gobble up the LSM’s toxic stews of political correctness, oh how diversity is so good and for dessert, excessive multiculturalism. It is always easier to let others think ‘for you’ and play patsie and stooge with the agenda or soup of the decade.

          The disgusting witch hunt upon white LEO and whites in general makes me livid and then ill.

          Maybe I will give up Oreo’s as I am sure this makes me even more of a racist. No, the chocolate ones will never do.

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          • doodahdaze says:

            Don’t do that. Time will tell. The thrill is gone for these paid pundits of prevarication. They pontificate an issue for a day and then it is Gone With the Wind. Almost like the elephants graveyard. No research. No follow up. Nothing. At this point I trust nothing in the advertising supported media. The advertisers are restrained and then the media they pay for becomes restrained. Now. Listen. It may make sense. Do you feel. Restrained?

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    • canadacan says:

      Somebody give Sean Hannity and Mark Levin a good swift kick in the ass .

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  4. auscitizenmom says:

    Martial Law.

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  5. Statement? What statement?

    “According to South Carolina Law Enforcement Division spokesman Thom Berry, investigators from the agency arrived at the shooting scene around 10:30 a.m. on April 4, less than an hour after Slager fatally shot 50-year-old Walter Scott.

    When investigators attempted to speak to Slager, he told them he had retained an attorney, Berry said.

    “We ceased any questioning and we then contacted his attorney,” Berry told The Times on Tuesday. David Aylor, who at the time was representing Slager, told law enforcement officials that he would make Slager available to investigators on April 7 at his office.

    Before investigators had the chance to interview him, Slager released a statement April 6 through Aylor’s office. The statement claimed the two had wrestled for control of his stun gun and Slager felt threatened, which led him to use his firearm.”

    http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-south-carolina-shooting-officer-timeline-20150414-story.html

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    • doodahdaze says:

      Why release any statement at all? Big error by lawyer. What a dumb ass.

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      • John Galt says:

        So far, I think Pimpdezzle and Santana have bigger public statement problems.

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      • Kitty Smith says:

        It wasn’t a mistake under the circumstances. They may be well aware of the cowardice of the brass and that Slager would get no backing or help from his department. Releasing a broad, defensive statement through the attorney was exactly the right thing to do. Slager cannot be questioned due to Fifth Amendment protections. It appears he immediately realized this would be a witch hunt and hunkered down for the onslaught. Why give them any ammo? A statement through an attorney cannot be held against a defendant and the conversation between them about the statement, assuming there was a conversation, is a privileged communication. It was much better to make an undetailed statement in Slager’s defense than it would to remain completely silent. It put the BGI and their enablers on notice that they’re about to get another pie in the face.

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    • John Galt says:

      “Investigators began interviewing Slager on the morning of April 7”

      Per oldiadguy’s previous explanation, there is an issue whether Slager waived Miranda rights during this interview, or whether Slager retained Miranda rights pursuant to Garrity v. New Jersey.

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    • Armie says:

      Aylor was being paid by the Police Union. The gravy train stopped when Slager was fired.

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      • Kitty Smith says:

        Not necessarily. It depends on the terms of membership. Most police unions represent fired or suspended members. They can come with a wrongful termination suit now.

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  6. Daniel says:

    Why would they do that? To prevent their town from being destroyed.

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    • James F says:

      Maybe an attempt to protect their town from whitehouse sanctioned violence and hope they would not be targeted by the DOJ and be subject to a “wholesale change” of their police department.

      To prevent millions in lost revenue paying overtime for police to babysit rioters.

      To prevent looting, rioting and burning down local businesses by rioters “staying the course.”

      To prevent being labeled racists without a shred of evidence and becoming the target of an organized boycott.

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      • doodahdaze says:

        Bad on them. That is not their job.

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      • sundance says:

        Structurally I agree with you, the ultimate goal was to get out in front of the controversy and stop another Ferguson like event.

        However, they went too far, and too quickly. Way too far (murder charges), and way too quickly (April 6th – afternoon)… They have boxed themselves into a dangerous place.

        Think back to the controversy of Black Bike Week in May of 2014 and the responses from local and PC frozen state officials and this shooting takes on more looming consequences.

        If the outsiders remain in SC for a few more weeks the FTP crowd, the NBPP, and the Ferguson agitators will align with the influx of 400,000+ incoming black bike week participants from all over the NE, SE and East coast in general.

        You have already seen that historically, guns, rifles, drugs and a lack of self control comes with them. You are talking about the potential for a racial crisis of monumental proportions in/around Memorial Day weekend this year.

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        • doodahdaze says:

          Maybe we should send Miss Scarlett a bottle of Advil.

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        • Eskie Mom says:

          Quite a coinky-dink ya got there, Sundance. Yes yes, my tinfoil hat is usually askew, but it is rather convenient, considering all the other elements “auspicious” to the agenda.

          Still doesn’t excuse the capitulation, imho. How many “inches” have we given to “civil rights” demands & how many miles have we traveled down the road now? It will only get worse. Much worse.

          To Daniel @6:26 PM- “Why would they do that? To prevent their town from being destroyed.”

          At minimum, that’s extortion. At worst, it’s terrorism. (or at least “terroristic threat”)

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          • Kitty Smith says:

            All true. But that’s the reality until whites and other races do something about it. Vote out and demand termination of all anti-white racists and those trembling in fear of the BGI. If that doesn’t work, other methods could become necessary.

            Or we can continue down the path of this snowball.

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      • fred says:

        That is why the GOP is so eager to confirm Loretta Lynch so this crazy black activism can continue to divide the country. Some punishment is in order but nothing like murder. I expect CNN to go off to the dark side where lies are normal but FOX is so eager to prove the are not racist they would endanger a mans life before the facts are know and maybe a city. Shame on you Sean you need to apologize fast.

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        • doodahdaze says:

          Might as well pass a law cops can’t bust blacks. Then we will at leas know ahead of time.

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          • John Galt says:

            Is the suspect white, black or hispanic?
            I think he’s black. He’s running.
            10-4 We’re rolling a black response unit.
            Wait, the passenger is calling himself “Pedro”.
            10-4 Hispanic response unit on the way.
            But he looks black.
            10-4 Mixed response unit on the way.

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        • Kitty Smith says:

          How do you know there is some punishment in order? Scott took the taser. We don’t yet know what Slager thought Scott was going to do. He’d just been tasered.

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      • ButterCookie77 says:

        “wholesale change of their police department”

        I laughed at first, but then I shed a tear as that sank in.

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      • hues10 says:

        And, don’t forget about all the heads that rolled in Ferguson even though Officer Wilson was innocent: The chief of police and others were forced out for for no good reasons that I can discern, unless it was due to DOJ threats.

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  7. BobNoxious says:

    Just to be clear; I did not create the imgur gif showing the taser hit the ground; I found it already made when I was trying to make my own so I just grabbed it and provided the link.

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    • It looks like the TASER was already fired when Slager drew it from its holster. The think that falls to his behind right is the spent cartage of the TASER. Scott must have had his hand on it when the TASER was fired the first time. Looks like the barbs hit Slager as th4 wires are trailing from him and not Scott.

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    • BobNoxious –

      I’m checking in with you only because you said you might want to hear some more of the legal questions I’ve been discussing with commenter “Attorney.”

      At https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/04/12/game-changer-or-paradigm-shift-walter-scott-shooting-enhanced-video-shows-officer-slager-with-taser-darts/comment-page-2/#comment-1381768 is a comment I posted within the past two hours or so. It’s addressed to “Attorney” and is in three numbered parts, each of which treats a subject I’ve already discussed with him. Obviously, you’ll be able to use the link above to get to the full comment; but below, I’ll present the comment’s third section, on which you might want to remark. I’ll present it exactly as it’s presented in my comment addressed to “Attorney.” It’s six paragraphs long. Here goes:

      3 – Here’s my real question:

      Do you know of any case in which a suspect who had broken away from a police officer whom he’d unsuccessfully attacked in the course of a chase was held to have retained the flight right he’d had at the chase’s beginning?

      That, it seems to me, is what is really bothering me (and other persons who have commented in this thread). It’s not clear that Mr. Scott attacked Officer Slager in the course of the chase, but there seems a possibility he did, even if “attack” means something like “fought in response to being tackled.”

      Let’s just say, for the sake of this discussion, that yes, Scott attacked Slager, Slager retained (or regained) the upper hand, and then Scott broke away and resumed his flight. Let’s assume, too, that the threat—if Officer Slager’s use of deadly force is lawful—must be “imminent.”

      What are we saying? That if Officer Slager didn’t shoot Scott at the moment he (Slager) was under attack, then, when Scott gets free and takes off again, “the counter is reset to zero,” so to speak? That, I think, is what’s troubling me and some of the other commenters here. If the threat must be “imminent,” then, apparently, Scott is free to attack one officer after another as long as he gets away before the officer can use deadly force against him. Once he is away again, in his flight, the officer he’s leaving behind is not authorized to use deadly force, to stop him from attacking someone else.

      This is what I was getting at when I said to you, in another comment at this thread, that if I were Slager’s attorney, I’d be willing to take this case to the Supreme Court, to obtain the rule I think should be applied to Slager’s action. In the present comment, I won’t try to formulate that rule exactly, but it would be something like the following:

      “If a fleeing suspect establishes himself as a danger—armed or unarmed—in the course of his flight from law enforcement, he is a danger until his flight ceases or is brought to an end, regardless whether he poses an identifiable threat of any kind to anyone; he may be stopped with deadly force.”

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    • BobNoxious –

      The following is a hypothetical that has to do with the subject I addressed in my previous post to you (at 12:17 am, April 15). Here goes:

      Let’s say a man runs from a routine traffic stop, as Walter Scott did in this case; and the policeman who’d stopped him gives chase, as Officer Slager did in this case. Let’s say the officer is shouting at the man to stop, but the man keeps going. Let’s say the law is that the officer can’t use deadly force against the man unless the man is an imminent threat of death or serious physical harm to someone.

      Let’s say that the man, while running, sees a woman putting groceries into a car in a supermarket parking lot; he pulls out a knife and threatens her to give him her car keys. The officer, who is coming upon the man at that moment, draws his gun, to fire at the man, by whom the woman is being threatened with death or serious injury; but just then, as the man is distracted by the officer’s approach, the woman slips from his grip and dashes away.

      The man, who has not obtained the woman’s car keys, starts fleeing again; but now, because the woman has slipped away, he is as he was before he encountered her: no threat to anyone. The officer keeps pursuing him.

      What do you think the law is? Do you think the officer may now shoot the man, even though the man is not an imminent threat to anyone?

      What do you think the law should be?

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  8. Canuckster says:

    I already stated I believe the cop is innocent and charges will be dropped when things cool down, but there is no way the cop could say, or anyone could believe, that the cop felt threatened from someone running away from the cop.

    When Walter became violent and resisted arrest the cop could legally shoot him. Did the cop have to shoot him? No. Did the cop have to shoot 8 times? No. Doesn’t matter though because it was legal to shoot him.

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  9. BobNoxious says:

    Here’s the still frame capture that I believe shows the wire looped around Slager’s wrist and then down his leg where the prongs are in or near.

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    • doodahdaze says:

      Poor Miss Scarlett. She knows. She is thinking….why me? Prolly trying to get off hot seat and call special persecutor in.

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    • mung says:

      Sorry, the only way we have what we are seeing is, if the cartridge is on or about Slager’s person and there is a barb in Scott’s leg.

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      • DT says:

        The cartridge is on the ground in front of Slager’s left foot, as seen here.

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          • mung says:

            I agree that there is something black by his shoe, might even be A cartridge, doesn’t mean it is THE cartridge. If the lead was the only lead, when Scott runs the other lead would not be dangling like it is and it would have quickly followed Scott with the lead attached to Scott not being as tight as it is. The only explanation for the configuration of the leads is that it is two separate leads. The only way it can be two separate leads, is if the cartridge is up around Slager’s arm and that would also explain why the lead attached to Scott goes tight.

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            • DT says:

              I shouldn’t take your bait. Yes, it is the cartridge attached to Scott. You can see in the videos posted here that the same cartridge in front of Slager’s foot takes off after Scott. Someone else can entertain your inanity from here.

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              • mung says:

                It is possible that the cartridge with the leads attached is the same one that is attached to Scott, but that only helps to prove that Slager fired the taser and that the other lead is the one dangling by his side.

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            • Concerned says:

              I disagree that it’s necessarily two leads. It looks to me like the end which is dangling down by Slager’s left lower leg is actually loose, and it’s the barbed end. The lead travels up Slager’s side, around his arm, over to and around Scott’s leg, and back to the cartridge. It looks to me like Slager intentionally wrapped that lead around his arm. Whether or not intentional it helped to prevent the lead from being pulled away by running Scott.

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      • BobNoxious says:

        What are you talking about? Each cartridge has 35 ft of wire attached to the prongs. Scott is seen dragging a taser cartridge only about 6 ft. behind him as he runs off.

        If you look closely at the pic you can see the wire run from somewhere on Slager’s lower left leg, up towards his hip and then out around his forearm/wrist. From there you can follow it down to Scott’s ankle and out to the carriage that he drags with running.

        There is no other way for that to be attached that close to him than for it to be wrapped around his foot and not connected to a prong. If it was connected via a prong then the black cartridge that is dragged along behind him would’ve had to first go behind Slager’s leg but if you watch frame by frame you can see that never happens.

        This is now at least the 3rd time you’ve made accusations that you cannot back up. It is very tiresome.

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        • mung says:

          Third time? You mean like with the tail lights? Yeah, prove me wrong on that one I dare you.

          Now, you may think it is tiresome to actually look at the evidence, but I don’t. I know you hate me because I don’t agree with you, but that is your problem not mine.

          What I see is one lead attached to Scott’s leg and one dangling by Slager’s side. You can choose to see something else, that is fine.

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          • BobNoxious says:

            No, not the tail lights (btw, the third light over the trunk was out). I’m talking about your nonsense the other day about no justification for using the Taser and your refusal to read the ordinance I cited that showed at a minimum why Scott was subject to arrest the second he ran from the stop.

            I don’t hate you at all; in fact, I couldn’t care less about you. However, that doesn’t make your nonsense and arrogant and dismissive comments any less tiresome. For one who cares about facts and evidence you seem to have a hard time evaluating anything that doesn’t fit your preconceived notions.

            Taser wire connected via a probe is not strong enough to be pulled taut as has been shown in the various pics and videos linked here. That means it has to wrapped around something a few times in order for it to be pulled tight and then drag the cartridge along while Scott is running. The ONLY possible explanation for what we see is what I explained above- prongs in or near Slager’s leg; wire runs up along his pant leg to his hip, out to his wrist/forearm and then down to Scott’s ankle and back to the cartridge.

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            • mung says:

              Third brake light was the ONLY light out.

              Now onto the taser probe. From what I have read sometimes they have EMTs remove them, so they are stronger than you think.

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          • jason says:

            just fwiw, something very odd about the tailights. At least the one definitely appears to be white, I’ve seen you explain that it’s red after the light goes off, so it’s some sort of optical illusion that the light is white instead of red. Except… why would we see red when it is unlit, shouldn’t the optical effect also make it appear white before it lights up as well?

            Further, it looks like there should be 2 bulbs for the tailight assembly, and we only see the single. The pic below might not show it very well, but best I could find. Light in the lower left corner and light in the lower right corner. So not only is there a question as to why it’s not read when it illuminates, but why only 1 of the 2 bulbs are lighted (the other tailight on the right side of the car also has the same issue).

            Add in the 3rd middle light being out and seems the officer had his pick of possible issues to tell Mr. Scott had with his vehicle.

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        • Concerned says:

          I totally agree with you. The only way Scott could drag the cartridge AND simultaneously cause the wire leading to Slager’s arm to go taut is if the wire was wrapped around Scott’s leg. And we have proof that it was wrapped around his leg because we can see it later in the video, when Scott is lying on the ground.

          I think the barbed end of the wire is dangling unattached to the side of Slager’s left leg when Scott is running away. If it was at one time attached to Slager’s pants or to his actual leg, it came loose during the physical struggle.

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    • Phae says:

      You beat me to it! I just posted a comment about it and was going through the comments to see if someone had said roughly the same thing.

      Maybe he shot Scott because he was afraid he would be dragged by Scott running for it?

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  10. doodahdaze says:

    Miss Scarlett might just be a normal prosecutor trying to convict actual criminals. Maybe. If so she has got to be thinking….Oh No!.

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  11. doodahdaze says:

    Hi Bernie. Bet you are glad you are not mixed up in this one…:)

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  12. Habanero says:

    The video capturing nothing but the suspect fleeing and getting shot is too perfect. The impact of the Glock .45 rounds is almost non-existent (the fleeing suspect just eventually tumbles to the ground). Officer looking at the individual filming the scene immediately after firing 8 rounds. No blood on the green shirt and no screaming in pain. “NWOO” in the left hand corner of the dash-cam video. The immediate and stunning overcharge of the officer by his own department. The cover of Time Magazine about Black Lives Matter. Anderson Cooper interviewing the calm, sweet mother of Walter Scott. The whole thing doesn’t add up. Congrats to the Treepers for digging in to this enigma.

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    • mitchschaft says:

      “The impact of the Glock .45 rounds”
      You wouldn’t see that. It’s not a rifle.

      “the fleeing suspect just eventually tumbles to the ground”
      Yes, that’s normal. You don’t get thrown away 10 feet like the movies. And you won’t even be jossled. It’s only a handgun.

      “Officer looking at the individual filming the scene immediately after firing 8 rounds”
      That’s called scanning your area for any other threats. That’s normal and part of training.

      “No blood on the green shirt”
      Wounds don’t always bleed outward. Especially with a handgun round.

      “no screaming in pain”
      that pain doesn’t come until later. He didn’t make it that far.

      “NWOO” in the left hand corner”
      You got me there. they’re part of a new world order conspiracy?

      I think you watch too many movies. The articles, here, explains the rest of your concerns.

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    • Angel Martin says:

      if you look at some handgun hunting videos of deer, you will see why hunters would not be surprised at how this video looked.

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    • Canuckster says:

      No blood on the green shirt…

      There is blood. Look at the pic where the cop checks Scott’s neck for a pulse. You can see blood on the green shirt in two different spots. This pic is a still photo taken from the bystanders video so there was blood immediately. It is not a doctored pic adding blood to the image because it from from the eye witnesses video.

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    • wizzum says:

      A couple of years ago I trapped some 50 lb pigs and dispatched them with my 45 in the shoulder heart lung area as I thought this would be the most humane. The way that Walter Scott behaved is consistent with how the pigs behaved, If I ever do that again I will use a .22 rifle to the head rather than a 45 to the shoulder/chest.

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  13. doodahdaze says:

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  14. Nicholas says:

    Your analysis is flawed: if you review the highest quality version of the video available here: https://vimeo.com/124336782 and download that copy and play it using VLC media player in order to conduct a frame by frame analysis the following becomes clear:
    – In the first frame of Scott and Slager circa 16-17s it appears that AFTER the taser is fired Scott knocks the taser out of Slager’s hand and it goes upward over Slager’s shoulder and hits the ground.
    – The taser did connect to Scott as the taser on the ground can be seen moving forward towards Slager as Scott is running away
    – It appears that the taser is stuck on something between Slager’s neck and shoulder (equipment?)
    – Whatever connection the taser made to Scott was superficial as it detaches as Scott runs away

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    • James F says:

      Your analysis is flawed by making the absolute, definite statement that “The taser did connect to Scott as the taser on the ground can be seen moving forward towards Slager as Scott is running away”. Why not allow for the possibility that Scott was entangled in the wire just as the same possibility applies to Slager?

      From the video it can be concluded that both are attached to or entangled in wires but there is not enough to information yet to conclude who was actually hit and who was just entangled.

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      • Nicholas says:

        The possibility that Scott being entangled in the wire would not fundamentally change my analysis at all.

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      • mung says:

        From the video it is very clear that you are looking at two different leads, one barb into Scott’s leg and the other hanging free. Slager got at least one barb into Scott.

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        • coeurdaleneman says:

          It’s not clear who fired the taser. Where do you get your certainty?

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          • mung says:

            Physics.

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          • Les says:

            “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.” ~ Bertrand Russell

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            • mung says:

              You mean like the people here who insist that the brake light lenses were knocked out because the lights were white? Or maybe the people who claim that the green blob is on top of the black blob, but ignore the fact that in the very next frame it is clear that the black blob is upright and blocking the entire green blob?

              At some point people will start looking at this stuff objectively instead of with colored glasses on.

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              • Les says:

                Now it’s “colored glasses?” hahaha

                Maybe people think Scott was in the wrong and caused his own death. They aren’t allowed to think that without being accused of racism and hate? And I mean specifically by YOU. YOU did that.

                Now I’m waiting for you throw out some “physics” and I can’t wait to see if you are as astute as you are arrogant and accusatory. Because so far you aren’t convincing. Granted, I parse most of what you post, but I will read your magnum opus this time.

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                • mung says:

                  I didn’t say what color those glasses were, you can imply what you want to imply. I am simply stating that people are putting their own views onto to what they see and what they hear in these videos.

                  I think I have already explained that the way the lead is dangling is not possible with the way the other one is tight if they are the same lead, there has to be a cartridge between the two.

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              • Burnt Toast says:

                “You mean like the people here who insist that the brake light lenses were knocked out because the lights were white?”

                On that particular point alone – old red plastic tail lights can and do fade to the point that when the light is off they do look red, but when the light is on they appear, basically, white.

                The cheap fix is you can get red plastic tape and put it over the faded lens. If you want to be classy you can put it inside so the cheap fix is not so obvious.

                And another lamp for the third / center light that was out (and maybe the right light too).

                Total cost < $10.

                Citation – repair and report.

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        • Yogi says:

          Sorry but there is no way possible that Slager shot the taser. So u are telling me that Slager shot than the barbs bounced off Scott and landed back on Slager than the cartridge wraps around Scotts leg. No way not buying it

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          • mung says:

            Not even close to what I am saying. Slager fired the taser, one lead hits Scott in the leg, other lead may or may not have made contact, but if it did it came loose. Cartridge is either ejected or knocked loose and on the inside of Slager’s arm, leads are over the arm from the inside to the outside, one lead attached to Scott, the other dangling next to Slager.

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    • Concerned says:

      Nicholas, I disagree with all four of your bullet points. Here’s what I think based on much scrutiny of the video (all of the available versions of it):
      – Slager pulls the taser out of Scott’s hand
      – the taser wire was wrapped around Scott’s leg
      – the taser wire is looped around Slager’s arm, then goes down the left side of his body
      – there was no actual connection to Scott

      I do think someone here is going to figure it all out and it will all make sense.

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      • Nicholas says:

        The first frame that one can see Slager & Scott it is clear that the taser is in Slager’s hand.
        What makes this clear?
        Here is a frame by frame image capture of the first image of Slager & Scott on camera, the taser being fired through the taser being knocked out of Slager’s hands and winding up behind Slager.

        Top image is the first image on camera and each image after is the next frame in the video.

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        • mung says:

          .18 seconds looks like Slager is firing the taser and Scott has his arm up trying to block his face. Not saying that is what is happening, but that is what it looks like to me. Now this brings up something interesting, because it sure sounds like the taser is being discharged at the very start of the video, so is this the second cartridge being deployed at this point?

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        • BobNoxious says:

          How can the Taser fly over Slager’s shoulder if it is basically level w/ his knee (its a black blur that can barely be made out) in frame 7? The trajectory b/w frame 7 and when it really becomes visible in frame 8 doesn’t match up w/ it traveling over his shoulder…

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          • Nicholas says:

            Do you agree that the orange light in frame 2 and the white smoke-like appearance between Slager & Scott in frames 3, 4, 5, and last seen in frame 6 rising in the air is significant?

            Also the path of Scott’s hand is consistent with the motion one would make when knocking something out of one’s hands (swatting from below the object causing the object to move upward and away from the force hitting it). Slager’s position in frame 8 is one of “where did it go?” then in frame 9 he transitions to go for his gun.

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            • BobNoxious says:

              I honestly do not see what you’re talking about. I can make out Scott appearing to be pulling back his right arm away from Slager’s grip/attempt to grip Scott’s right wrist. It looks like they broke away suddenly b/c Scott’s right arm sort of shoots up rapidly.

              I can’t make out anything happening w/ Scott’s left arm or Slager’s right arm (until it focuses and he goes for his gun).

              What I do see is a blurry black spot about even in height w/ Slager’s knee but behind it a few feet and it then hits the ground in frame 8 where were know it is the Taser. Based on that trajectory I don’t see how it could’ve passed over Slager’s shoulder- it seems more likely to have come from somewhere around hip height.

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              • Angel Martin says:

                i think in frame 2 they both have a hold of the taser. Slager with his left arm and Scott with his right. Slager is also reaching for his pistol which makes sense if he thinks he is about to lose the taser.

                frame 2-3. the orange may be taser confetti. a taser is fired by compressed nitrogen, not gunpowder. however this slow motion shows the cartridge cover plates glowing orange from the side. ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPVyY_nyudk

                frame 4-5. vertical streaks of light are from vertical camera movement. any “smoke” has to be confetti as the taser contains no gunpowder.

                frame 6-7. Scott lets go of the taser. Slager lurches forward as if he was pushing on something that gave way. i suggest he and Scott both had hold of the taser and were pushing against each other. Slager was trying to get the taser on target and Scott was trying to push it away and off target.

                frame 8. Slager’s arm is knocked down and the taser goes flying behind him. Scott’s lower arm is bare and i can’t see it knock the taser out of Slager’s hand.

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              • lilbirdee'12 says:

                As I said two days ago, Slager had the taser in his right hand and threw it back behind him and brings hand forward to pull gun. (Possibly slinging the taser back hard & fast to break wire?) Also, IMO, Slager was never on ground beneath Scott. (Lil birdees have better views, lol)

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        • jason says:

          it’s clear slager has the taser and it’s knocked out of his hands???

          I think we can agree the above pic is clearer than your frame by frame. Where is that taser again? Slager has a hold of Scott’s arm, not the taser and Scott is pulling free, not slapping anything out of slager’s hand(s).

          Is the taser in Slager’s other hand (right hand, behind him and by hit utility belt?). If Scott knocks the taser out of Slagers hand, it would have to be with his left hand to produce the motion that makes it land to the side of Slager’s body. Why can’t we see Scott’s arm make any motion and/or contact with Slager’s right hand?

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    • Canuckster says:

      – It appears that the taser is stuck on something between Slager’s neck and shoulder (equipment?)

      The cop is right handed. The cop’s radio mic is on the right hand side of his chest. When he first chases after Scott you can see him radio in uses his right hand. Plus when he walked back to the cop car from Scott’s car you can see the radio mic on his chest.

      The radio mic is probably what it’s tangled or stuck on.

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      • Nicholas says:

        Thanks for those details, that was what I guessed it might be caught on but I was not positive that Slager had a radio mic on his right side so I thought best not to speculate. However with your excellent info Canuckster that definitely sounds logical. Thank you!

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    • Angel Martin says:

      “The taser did connect to Scott as the taser on the ground can be seen moving forward towards Slager as Scott is running away”

      where do you get this? i’ve got it in iMovie frame by frame, and the body of the taser, hits the ground behind Slager and keeps moving away from him.

      i think we may have a vocabulary problem
      taser=main body
      cartridge=contains darts and wires, when fired, the wires connect the cartridge to the darts
      darts=the sharp pointy things at the end of the wires.

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      • Nicholas says:

        Watch closely around the 18/19 second mark when the taser turns right as the camera begins to pan away from it.

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        • Angel Martin says:

          well it can’t see it. when the taser is rolling end over end i see it as always moving right.

          once it is down flat on the ground it looks still by comparison to other objects on the ground. ?

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  15. True Colors says:

    I watched the video at the top of this thread in slow motion on my 60″ TV.

    At the beginning of that video, the trigger assembly is clearly bouncing hard on the ground behind the police officer. Hard enough to kick up some dirt, even.

    Very interesting — the angle of the bouncing taser makes it look like Walter Scott threw it on the ground back handed as he was running away. It does not seem possible that the officer could have thrown the taser on the ground in such a way to make it bounce like that. If the officer had thrown the taser down then it would have bounced straight back up.

    TC

    p.s. Does anyone else find it peculiar that the original source video is so incredibly blurry and terrible all the way up to the point where Walter Scott starts running away? Then, it suddenly snaps into clear high definition at the perfect angle.

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      Like it was actually a different phone videoing it? I saw that and it crossed my mind.

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    • Canuckster says:

      Does anyone else find it peculiar that the original source video is so incredibly blurry and terrible all the way up to the point where Walter Scott starts running away? Then, it suddenly snaps into clear high definition at the perfect angle.

      I mentioned this on another site before finding this site. It’s really weird. But no matter how blurry a picture or video is the FBI, and I’m sure other law enforcement agencies, have the technology to turn totally blurred imagines into crystal clear ones.

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      • Angel Martin says:

        i think it is blurry because the camera is moving. since they can see how the camera is moving against the background, they might be able to use that to reconstruct the video more clearly

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    • Worc1 says:

      Looks like it had to have been thrown by Scott with his left hand. His right hand/arm is being held by Slager and is going in the up position. Slager’s left hand is holding Scotts right arm and his right hand is pulling his pistol from holster. That is definitely the trigger portion of the taser as you can see yellow as it is bouncing.

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  16. Yogi says:

    Im hearing the Fat Lady warm up

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  17. ray76 says:

    You can watch the video (the one with the added timer) and move frame by frame here:

    http://rowvid.com/?v=glsGDw8f6ns

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    • Nicholas says:

      The Vimeo version https://vimeo.com/124336782 is MUCH higher quality than this version you are suggesting people watch.

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      • ray76 says:

        I don’t know if that site handles vimeo but is does handle any youtube video. Can the vimeo video be posted to youtube?

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      • BobNoxious says:

        The Vimeo version is compressed to make a wide screen view throughout; the best version I’ve seen yet is the stabilized YouTube linked in the main article. It’s 1080p and keeps the video in its original format throughout.

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        • Nicholas says:

          This is simply not accurate.

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          • BobNoxious says:

            The raw video starts in the tall skinny format as someone holding their phone horizontally and then switches just as the shooting starts to the vertical widescreen format. Vimeo has it in the widescreen vertical mode throughout the entire video. Doesnt that mean they had to have done something to the format of the original video in order to get it to play that way?

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      • Angel Martin says:

        i think Nicholas is right about vimeo being better. i can see the sunglasses much more clearly on vimeo.

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        • Nicholas says:

          Thanks Angel. There are countless articles from professional photogs which attest to the fact that Vimeo provides a much higher quality than YouTube. In fact, this article establishes that Vimeo at 720p is better than YouTube’s new 1080p mode:
          http://photoframd.com/2009/12/17/comparing-hd-video-compression-on-youtube-and-vimeo/

          The reason for this is YouTube’s compression algorithms are much more lossy in comparison to Vimeo.

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          • Angel Martin says:

            it seems to be blurry because the camera is moving
            Nicholas do you know if they can use the background to estimate the camera movements and back out the movement and get the image clearer on the blurry stuff?

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            • Nicholas says:

              Are you referring to the 2nd through 6th frames of the video here: http://imgur.com/a/HL9uY or the video overall?

              If you’re referring to the overall video, yes the video can be processed using different plugins in Adobe Premiere Pro or After Effects to “clean up” the visuals without degrading or manipulating the footage. I’d be happy to work on it and could have it complete by noon on Wednesday.

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              • Angel Martin says:

                that would be great !
                i think everyone is most interested in the fight before the shooting. i’d like to see
                not only at 17 seconds, but there are 2 frames at 14 which show them. in the bottom left corner.

                my sunglasses theory can wait until the trial. Habersham saw them (or not). who knows, the Charleston police may still have them in the evidence locker

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                • lilbirdee'12 says:

                  like to see
                  not only at 17 seconds, but there are 2 frames at 14 which show them. in the bottom left corner.

                  YES..YES…YES !

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                • It appears to me, looking at those two frames at 14, that Slager is at least down on one knee and that Scott is stooped over him in the process of going down, perhaps also to his knees. It appears, later, that the line is pulled taut for at least a moment as Slager is beginning to fire. Whether or not the shooting was self-defense, whether or not it was warranted, it is a great tragedy, especially in light of the fact that backup was in position to apprehend. As my black, criminal justice-trained son would say, “cause and effect.” If you don’t want a bad outcome, don’t cause it. Just recently, he was wrongfully tackled and arrested and did not resist. The charges were later dropped, the officer admitted he was wrong, and everyone walked away alive and healthy. They are now friends. Police are trained in self-preservation. Without such instincts, most of them would be dead in a week. In the next town over, a cop was killed trying to make his first arrest, because he forgot the first rule of self-preservation. He also killed the suspect, who had previously killed the man whose car he had hijacked. We don’t want cops killing people. But these are highly trained individuals who act on instinct. If we deprive them of that right, we sentence them all to death.

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    • AghastInFL says:

      using this video player (rowvid) in single frame mode @ 286.65~286.69 watch Slager’s head… I believe he ducks his head to avoid being hit by…?
      at 286.71 – 73 the taser hits the ground.

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    • jason says:

      great link, thank you. Here’s the CBS copy that i think has pretty high quality on rowvid
      http://rowvid.com/?v=-ZE4h90PBpQ

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  18. doodahdaze says:

    Honey, where should we go to the beach this summer?
    http://www.charlestoncvb.com/beaches/

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    • thefirstab says:

      Bwaahaaaaa!! That’s not nice – funny, tho.
      I remember you are from my home state FL. They pull stunts like this, “tamp things down”, like shark attacks.

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  19. 7delta says:

    In the still pictures with the red writing, “Where is taser at this moment?” the writing says Slager is holding Scott’s right forearm. Slager is using his right hand to hold Scott. Slager is reaching to his left side to “belt and firearm.” That’s the taser side, not the firearm side. Slager’s service weapon is on his right side. He can be seen drawing it with his right hand before he fires. So more accurately, it should read “-no, it’s reaching for belt and taser.”

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    • coeurdaleneman says:

      LOL. Your other left, guy.

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      • 7delta says:

        LOL. I’ve looked at the picture over and over. It’s funny how in the blur, with a red circle, things look opposite to me. Slager’s extended arm looks like the inside of his right arm , with his left arm (elbow) up, drawing from the left. Now, I can also see the opposite body position too, with Slager’s chest rotated to his right, instead of his left.

        So yeah, I think you’re right. It is my other left. LOL. That’s been throwing me off since I first saw it.

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  20. John Galt says:

    http://www.americanbar.org/newsletter/publications/youraba/201206article06.html

    “Witnesses should not be provided “script memos” in which they are coached on what to say or what not to say, Asborno said.”

    Why are lawyers writing witness scripts?

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  21. BertDilbert says:

    Sundance: You may want to consider added screen grabs of the taser before and after showing the replacement cartridge is missing. At the stop photo and then post incident. It leaves open the possibility the taser was fired more than one time.

    Scott gaining control of a loaded taser makes more sense if it happened during the officer reloading. I do not see Slager having his Taser drawn early on and trained on Scott falling into
    Scotts hands after the “Taser Taser Taser” warning.

    The taser reload cartridge could have come off during the struggle or it could have been reloaded. One of the two happened.

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    • Burnt Toast says:

      Clearly, both taser loads were used before the video caught the action.

      Missing part of the story is, where were the taser loads expended?

      A safe assumption is that the second load was used right about where the vid started.

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  22. Ursula says:

    Hannity and Levin should have read this site before they raged on about the cop.
    Actually, SD puts out the latest scoop at least a day or two before before MSM does.

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    • janc1955 says:

      At a minimum they should have withheld comment and asked their staff to monitor the site for ongoing developments. These people should certainly know by now that not much is as it originally appears, and there are dark forces behind the scenes in these situations constructing the narrative. The idiots fell for it. There’s no excuse, after all we’ve seen with GZ and DW, to jump on the BGI bandwagon day 1. Idiots.

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  23. Armie says:

    For prospective donors to Officer Slager’s defense fund. One of the other truth oriented sites has been in touch with the Savage Law Firm, and they are suggesting that supporters hold off on making contributions at this time. They’re going to have to go through the process of organizing the fund. They’re also suggesting that prospective contributors refrain from sending money to any of the purported defense funds, for obvious reasons.

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  24. skeptiktank says:

    What is the law? If Slager thought Scott had the taser, would that be justification to shoot? If Slager knew the taser wires were wrapped around both he and Scott, and knew he was going to be dragged by the wire if he didn’t stop Scott, is that justification? I don’t know that either was the case, but I’m sure these scenarios will occur to his defense attorney. It doesn’t have to be true. It just has to create reasonable doubt.

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    • mung says:

      There is a large divide here over the “law”. Several of us believe that Tennessee vs Garner is not met, others say that because Scott might have possibly decided to hurt someone while getting away that it is met. Only time will tell I guess.

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    • John Galt says:

      36 gauge, 2 lb tensile strength. The concern is getting shocked, not dragged.

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  25. Horsesoldier says:

    I have had a sinking feeling since the get go that a whole lot of folks gonna have some ‘splaining’ to do. When will they ever learn?

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  26. carterzest says:

    I Twitted Hannity, Greta and Lars…

    Boy howdy, I have had to block about 10 folks raging on me for not supporting $ybrina’s speaking engagement in PDX. The Hate is just amazing from some of the clueless.

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  27. VegasGuy says:

    Damn if I don’t still hear that sound bite which IMO, clearly is Santana blurting at 0:13 on the video.
    Still sounds IMO, loud & clear to me, that he says….”I’m gona flim that he shoot you…..”

    And that is seconds before Slager pulls the Glock.

    If that is correct, then Santana saw or heard (or KNOWS) something that clued him to impending action soon to follow.

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  28. tappin52 says:

    I have a question. I can see the tazer wires around Scott’s leg and I can see the wires around Slager. Were these to men tethered together by the wires, or were they separate wires? I would think that if they were tethered together Slager would have a reason to fear for his life because Scott would only be able to get so far before he ran out of slack in the wires. He would have to fight the officer again to try to get free and he had already bested the officer in the earlier tussles. He never would have been able to run totally clear from Slager.

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    • skeptiktank says:

      I thought about that, and brought it up a few posts above, and was informed it is 36 gauge wire with 2 lb tensile strength, so it would break rather easily. However, if he thought Scott had the cartridge, he could argue that he was afraid of being shocked and incapacitated. Seems like a long shot to me, but I’m sure his lawyer will explore that angle.

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    • Sandra says:

      It looks like Slager deliberately wrapped the wire around his arm. I was wondering if he did that to try to slow Scott down. Unfortunately we don’t see what happened to the wire after it’s pulled taut because Slager is soon out of the camera frame as Santana follows the running Scott. Either the wire was pulled away from Slager’s arm or it broke. In any case, it looks like Slager was not concerned about being dragged by Scott. It looks like he was trying to use the wire to his advantage. The more I watch the video the more impressed I am by Slager’s actions.

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  29. jomama2 says:

    Looking at the Vimeo video, there are a few blurry frames as Santana is walking up to the fence where you can clearly see Scott’s aqua shirt near the ground and his white sneakers turned sideways with the black soles showing revealing that he was off his feet prior to when he initially pulled back and ran. It appears that Slager was standing at the time, although the detail on him is blurry.

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  30. 'Roosevelt Leaks says:

    Don’t like comments that don’t fit the narrative?
    Does his report even exist?
    On April 4, less than an hour after Slager fatally shot 50-year-old Walter Scott….When investigators attempted to speak to Slager, he told them he had retained an attorney, Berry said.
    Or did he just lawyer up instantly?

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    • Armie says:

      And yet, we have video of Slager giving a statement to the investigating officer… The audio from that interview is most likely on his webcam, because the comment about adrenalin that we’ve had to listen to all day came from the same source. So it wasn’t all investigators he refused to speak to, just the ones whose job it is to convict him.

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    • Kitty Smith says:

      I hope he lawyered up instantly. After what was done to Darren Wilson, no cop in his right mind would trust the government to act fairly. They know their fate is decided at a much higher level than the investigating officer level.

      Thank Eric “My people” Holder.

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  31. 'Roosevelt Leaks says:

    Following the release of the cellphone video that contested Slager’s version of events, Aylor removed himself as Slager’s attorney. If it is no contest, would it have been contested?-if an actual paper copy even exists.

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    • Canuckster says:

      Seems this Aylor lawyer was retained by the cop on the same day of the shooting. The lawyer released a statement on the cops behalf sometime after the shooting. Then the video is made public. The lawyer then claims he removed himself as the cops lawyer. In Ontario, a lawyers doesn’t get to just drop a client. The lawyer must be removed as the lawyer by the court. I would assume it would be the same in SC, but maybe not.

      I also assume the cop is in a union. The cop was fired. Therefore, in Ontario the cops termination can only be decided by a grievance and settled in arbitration. The ordinary court has no jurisdiction over the employment termination and the union must represent the cop in the arbitration. I assume this would be the same in SC, but I don’t know that it is.

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      • doodahdaze says:

        I do not think it is fair to have to live your life under the rule of social justice without it being known. If social justice has replaced the justice system we should know it and be able to deal with it. Stealth social justice is ex post facto law and unconstitutional.

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      • Kitty Smith says:

        Often people engage an attorney for the moment when they need immediate advice, then soon get an attorney to represent them for the actual criminal case against them. There was nothing odd about this sequence. If the union lawyer fulfilled his obligation to the union, then he’s good to go.

        Most courts don’t allow lawyers to just drop a client and leave him or her without any representation, but this hadn’t reached that level when Aylor and/or Slager terminated the relationship.

        Another thing that happens is that a client may say something incriminating to the attorney, spontaneously, right after an incident or even further along. The attorney is supposed to act ethically and tell the client to get someone else because he or she can no longer present the defense intended. The attorney is not supposed to knowingly present untruths to the court, although it happens.

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  32. doodahdaze says:

    I now think Slager will not get a fair trial. The defense must plan on getting everything in the record for appeals. All the way past the S.c. Supreme Court to the SCOTUS. If they will take it somehow. Looks like the judicial has been compromised as far as social justice.

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    • kathyca says:

      But it was no different with Zimmerman and justice still prevailed. Honestly, I think the obvious bias is a bad thing for the prosecution, so long as the CTH and others keep calling attention to it. Wolverines!

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      • doodahdaze says:

        That was because of the 5th circuit appeals judges. Here the S.C. Supreme Court has appointed a Special Judge steeped in Social Justice to try the case. I do not know the social justice rules and it is not fair to the cop either. He was working and may not have known what the actual rules are. I hope you understand what I am saying. How can you defend a person if you do not know the letter of the law? What is the law?

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        • kathyca says:

          Yes, I see what you mean. But this is going to be very high profile, just like Zimmerman. The appellate courts will need to do the right thing. Especially with the presidential election coming up. There’s not going to be an overtly bgi candidate running this time.

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          • doodahdaze says:

            But K. Look at the top of the thread. The SC put in a Special Judge. Black Judge. Who was inspired to go to law school because of Brown v.

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            • kathyca says:

              I know, I know. I’m the one who posted the social justice link. Try not to worry. The judiciary is not entirely infiltrated yet. Especially when folks are watching closely. We need to keep watching closely. Everyone needs to lend SD their support and keep the pressure ON.

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              • doodahdaze says:

                Will do. If you appeal a ruling by a judge appointed by the SC to the SC how will you fare? Why the SC appoint a Special Judge? Now . Can a defendant file a federal writ? It may come to that. Not many are watching close or even understand.Looks to me like the higher courts in South Carolina are sending a message in a bottle. JMO

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            • fred says:

              What about Loretta Lynch on deck next up to bat.

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          • doodahdaze says:

            This is really bad news for the defense. They will get no quarter on appeal on the state level. Maybe writs to SCOTUS?

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          • doodahdaze says:

            I think the only hope for the cop is a jury. The fix is in top to bottom. I would go for a speedy trial and trust to the jury.

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            • kathyca says:

              Yes. We’ve yet to be disappointed with the grand jury or jury in any case that we’ve paid attention to. Keep the faith and keep the spotlight on full blast.

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              • doodahdaze says:

                10 million candlepower if I can. Thats fer sure. This sux.

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              • doodahdaze says:

                I just do not see why the Chief Justice of the S.C. Supreme Court would do this. it seems far from impartial on its face. Awful and ugly to me. Are they seeking truth or an outcome? What are they seeking? I liked the legal system for impartial seeking of truth with rule developed over the last 200 years. This is distressing. I was hoping the legal system would hold up.

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                • kathyca says:

                  I honestly don’t know why a special judge is appointed, why or whether that’s to be expected. I work ft (although you’d never know it when I get interested in a case here lol), but if I have the time, I’ll try to figure it out.

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                • doodahdaze says:

                  I work all day at doing nothing….But know you are busy working. Good on ya.

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    • Les says:

      Keep your money. Don’t buy things. Keep your car until the wheels fall off, clean your furniture, mend your clothes. If they are going to take it in taxes, donate enough to your church or wounded warriors/vets or animals or political candidate to offset it. Don’t give them a red cent if they are going to spend blue…

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    • janc1955 says:

      I agree about the chances of Slager getting a fair hearing. The fix is in, and the BGI WILL have their pound of flesh on this one. They lost on Saints Skittle and Swisher Sweets. They ain’t gonna lose on Walter Who’s Yo Daddy Scott. Slager will spend the foreseeable future in a jumpsuit, and his wife is in her 8th month of pregnancy according to something I read over the weekend. Bet Slager was actually planning to support his baby.

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  33. doodahdaze says:

    If Slager had known he would be held to the social justice standard he would never have even chased the perp. Maybe that would be a defense.

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  34. psconserned says:

    in police action shootings the officers rights are invoked. The shooting officer does not make a report or have to give a statement unless his FOP attorney allows him to. He has a right not to self incriminate. It is likely there is no report by Slagel.

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    • doodahdaze says:

      Even if there is it won’t come in. But….The rules of shooting a black perp are too vague. Attention all S.C. cops. Get out of there quick.

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  35. doodahdaze says:

    The city hired him to ride around in his cop car and enforce their law. Did they tell him to let blacks go? What did they train him to do? Did they train him to never shoot a black fleeing felon? Why did they give him a gun? This is absurd. I would never….ever…be a cop in S.C.

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    • John Galt says:

      Yes, the deck is stacked. Suspect has attacked you and attempted to take your weapon. What do you do? Here, practice on these “no hesitation” targets.

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      • doodahdaze says:

        Would you do that job? Not me. Unless the rules were crystal clear and I did not have to chase criminals or try to arrest them if they did not comply.

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  36. kathyca says:

    I sure hope his attorney, his mom and/or his wife are reading here.

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  37. JB from SoCal says:

    *** Now just wait a minute here. The GJ was to convene in May, correct? Then the SECRET GJ would speak Re: an indictment, either yes or no (indictment). If NO, the charge is thrown out, and Ofcr. Slager is NOT charged, walks free.

    If the GJ says that there is reason to indict – a YES vote – then an actual criminal trial would begin. As I understand it, is that where the appointed juror would step in . . or BEFORE THAT, at the GJ level?
    Or is the scheduled GJ cancelled entirely, at the appointed judge’s whim?

    Question to someone who has researched the GJ and “legal” system in SC?:
    Does Chief Justice Toal’s new appointment of Judge Newman then STOP and subvert the previously scheduled Slager GJ, exactly as Angela Corey’ last-minute cancellation of the Florida GZ GJ?

    If so, then it seems as though Slager’s Atty. Andy Savage needs to appeal this move by the SC Supreme Court Ch. Justice Toal, and move to the Federal Appeals level ASAP.
    What sayeth thou, O citizenry?

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    • JB from SoCal says:

      . . . and oh by the way, Mike Slager needs to have a bail hearing now, since the Death Penalty has been ruled out by Scarlett Wilson, Charleston County’s Chief Prosecutor.

      Or is her statement declared null and void by the CJ Toal’s intervention?
      Oh, so THAT’s waht y’all been chattin’ ’bout, “Miss Scarlett” ‘n’ all. [slapping knee] Well sh*t howdy, I declare !!!!!

      duuhh . . .

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  38. doodahdaze says:

    Savage should immediately file to disqualify the judge appointed by the South Carolina Supreme Court. On grounds of bias due to his black civil rights advocacy. The Judge is conflicted.

    In South Carolina disqualification is governed by the South Carolina Code of Judicial Conduct, which calls on a judge to disqualify himself in any proceeding in which his impartiality might reasonably be questioned, including instances where he has a personal bias against a party; as well as by Rule 33 of the Rules of Practice of the Supreme Court, which generally requires that a judge recuse when he has a personal bias concerning a party. A South Carolina constitutional provision, Article V, §19, also deals with the subject.

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    • doodahdaze says:

      This is clear and convincing evidence of the judges conflict. The cop would be in fear of not getting a fair trial.

      He was raised in Greeleyville, South Carolina, where he graduated valedictorian of Williamsburg County Training School in 1969. His inspiration to pursue a legal career originated while playing the role of an attorney in a high school play centered around the 1954 school desegregation case of Brown v. Board of Education.

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  39. Phae says:

    From the enhanced video at 3 seconds, it looks to me as if the wire is attached somehow to Scott’s leg AND wrapped around one of Slager’s wrists. Please someone else look at this and tell me your opinion. Do you see what I see?

    If that is true, with Scott running away, it could have endangered the officer, possibly dragging him, making him lose his balance, numb his wrist/hand as the wire got tighter and tighter, which would explain why he had to shoot. His wrist was attached to Scott and Scott was making a run for it.

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      I wonder how strong those wires are? I have a retracting dog leash that says not to hold the wire with your hand because it can sever a finger or cut your hand.

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  40. rashomon says:

    Nice work, as usual, Sundance & Company. Shame on the media for jumping to conclusions to feed their audience numbers. Shame on the BGI who started and perpetuates this victimhood.

    Some jurisdictions have allowed LEOs to overstep their bounds for decades (Chicago taxpayers just got hit for another $5.5 million thanks to tactics used by former LEO John Burge to convict innocents — I think previous awards totaled around $80 million), but his actions usually occurred in the safety of stations where he had no witnesses except other officers. Not one of our present BGI big cheeses helped bring him down; that would have been too much work.

    BTW, there is NO justification for using “unarmed” regarding these cases as that is only known after the fact. I have had sweet, “unarmed” little 10 and 12-year-olds pull 6-inch blades on me when I was trying to prevent thefts and fights. Officer Slager had not patted down Mr. Scott, so who knows what he could have had in his pockets or elsewhere.

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  42. DT says:

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/08/17/27608E2F00000578-3029597-image-a-51_1428510962176.jpg This pic has a few items to note:
    For those not seeing blood on Scott, there is a melon sized patch mid right back and a few small blotches upper right back with a bullet hole.

    Someone else noted that they saw a mark on Slager’s arm. It looks like the taser lead “bit” into Slager’s left hand a inch or two above his watch.
    It also looks like there is something else on the ground up by Scott’s cap. It doesn’t look like organic debris.

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  43. lurking2014 says:

    We all know it is imperative that Santana’s original video file be examined on Santana’s phone, fo ra number of reasons.

    We know from the footage that he missed the last 4-6 seconds of the fight as he moved along the fence, and probably had his earbuds in and music on. We know that Slager did not have the situation under control.

    Now I believe we can add 2 seconds of apparently missing footage just before the shooting starts to the list of reasons to examine the timecode and in/out points on the original file.

    There is a significant portion of Santana’s walk along the fence — on the order of 10 feet or more — that is omitted just before the shooting starts. The missing footage is from the part of Sanatana’s walk past an unobstructed section of fence that would reveal the ending moments of the fight between Slager and Scott.

    Pay attention to the iron fence poles and the skinny tree along the fence line. At the 0:05 mark when the “Taser sounds” note is on the screen Santana is three fence poles away from a power pole next to a larger tree. The third fence pole from the skinny tree is in the lower right of the frame. The larger tree next to the skinny tree is on Santana’s side of the fence, obscuring the view through the next section of chain link.

    If the fence poles are 8 feet apart, then Santana started filming more than 16 feet away from the skinny tree. By the time Santana films the shooting he is on the other side of those trees.

    Santana’s video does not include the footage from when Santana walked past that unobstructed section of fence through which the fight was visible! There is a break in the video!

    Here is a link to the 0:05 mark in the stabilized copy of the video where you can see the fence and the skinny tree (power pole?) 16 feet away from Santana. Slager and Scott are seen in the background, upper left, fighting through the unobstructed section of the fence before the skinny tree :

    As Santana isn’t even at the first fence pole in that unobstructed section at the 0:07 mark, but there is an abrupt jump cut with a shaky tilt down and a zoom and all of a sudden Santana is at the second fence pole! Sanatana is at least 10 feet further down the fence than he was just a frame earlier:

    Here is the second fence pole, at the 0:08 mark:

    He passes the skinny tree and what turns out to be side-by-side trees, moving to his left, at 0:10

    And moves his camera up over the fence to the left of the side-by-side trees at 0:12 just before Scott breaks Slagers grip:

    We know that Santana is moving along the fence at the rate of 2 seconds per fence section. During the jump cut Santana moves nearly two fence sections.

    At the very least, we know that Santana’s view of the last 4 seconds of the fight from 0:08 was obscured as he moved towards and past the side-by-side trees.

    What Santana filmed or saw in the 2 seconds while we moved past the unobstructed portion of the chain link fence — a point about 6 seconds before the shooting — is very much in question. The original video file may have the answer.

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  44. Phae says:

    Ole Miss player: stepdad was man shot, killed by S. Carolina police

    http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/04/08/ole-miss-player-stepdad-was-man-shot-killed-by-s-carolina-police/

    In a tweet posted to his Twitter account Tuesday night, Ole Miss defensive lineman Fadol Brown, a Charleston, SC, native, claimed that Scott was his stepdad, lashing out at the police officer who he says “[shot] him down like a dog.”

    Walter Scott was my step dad …I loved him to death that cop didn't have to shoot him down like a dog like that …gone miss you man
    
    — fear fadol (@Fadol_90) April 8, 2015
    

    In July of 2013, Brown transferred from FIU to Ole Miss. After sitting out the 2013 season to satisfy NCAA transfer rules, Brown was a part of the Rebels’ line rotation in 2014.

    Our thoughts, prayers and condolences go out to Brown for his loss.

    UPDATED 2:12 p.m. ET: In a statement, Ole Miss head coach Hugh Freeze, among other things, clarified the relationship between Fadol Brown and Walter Scott.

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    • Sandra says:

      Scott’s real kids are in their 20’s, aren’t they? Fadol Brown is 22. So Scott spewed his sperm, then abandoned his own kids, and took on Fadol as a son? Or am I reading this wrong?

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  45. lurking2014 says:

    Fadol’s longtime girlfriend’s mother’s boyfriend earned the status of “step dad.” Right.

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  46. hues10 says:

    I just hope they are not going to pull an Angela Corey and bypass the grand jury.

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    • jayHG says:

      What grand jury. Slager is already arrested and charged…..lol!!! Good grief! Grand juries happen BEFORE dude. They are to see if there is going to BE a charge….lol! Slager is in jail without bond….or some bond so high he can pay it.

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      • You’re wrong in more than one way. Here the state has merely announced that they have composed their indictment, and seek the grand jury’s affirmation that it is a “true bill.” Unless and until that vote of affirmation happens, Slager hasn’t actually been charged. Solicitor Scarlett Wilson explained that the Charleston Grand Jury doesn’t convene until May:

        http://www.foxcarolina.com/story/28792149/prosecutor-death-penalty-does-not-apply-in-michael-slager-case

        “Unlike other states, South Carolina does not have an investigative grand jury system for counties. Our Charleston Grand Jury will not meet again until May. When we present indictments to the grand jury will depend upon when we receive the investigative file and the amount of time it takes to review it. South Carolina’s Rules of Criminal Procedure and the common law provide that indictments should be sought within 90 days of my office receiving the warrant from the Clerk of Court.

        “My office is committed to notifying the public and the media if/when the Charleston County Grand Jury returns indictment(s) against the Defendant and when other court hearings are scheduled.”

        As for the bond question:

        “Because of the nature of the charge, South Carolina law requires that bond be set by a Circuit Court judge. At this time, we have not received a defense request for bond. When/if we do, the public will be notified as to the time and place of the hearing.”

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  48. watcher says:

    In the new zoom video, taser touches ground and stops about the same time Slager has sidearm drawn and aimed. (He’s quick) The taser is located next to the grass, to his right rear.
    For a brief fraction of a second you can see a taser lead between Slager and Scott that appears to be wrapped around Slager’s left arm. The lead than goes to officers rear on the left side of his body, strange to me that the lead is on left side. I know taser is holstered on left but aiming it would be with dominant hand. Isn’t Slager right handed?

    Anyway the DNA on the teaser leads will tell where they went.

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    • famousprince says:

      The wires are confusing to me, but it’s clear Scott threw the taser with his left hand while his right hand was being restrained by Slager, and Slager’s other hand was on his gun.

      I would also like to mention something else that seems clear to me. I’m no expert, but as stated by some, the taser would still be a weapon at close range, so could be used against an approaching officer, and that officer’s gun then taken. Therefore, it’s crucial to Slager’s defense that the taser weapon be near the suspect to support his claim. It seems the officer thought that Scott was in possession of the taser weapon as he fired, later discovered this not to be the case, and retrieved the taser weapon trying to quickly dump it next to the suspect unnoticed. He then re-holstered it while in plain view to make it seem that he had just discovered it next to the suspect. Some posters have dismissed this action by the cop as irrelevant. It isn’t. There is evidence made very apparent here that the scheme team and the reactionary media chose to ignore (that’s you Sean Hannity), but visitors here should not make the same mistake.

      The weird part is what appeared to be a damning video by the “hero” (and let’s give the guy some credit; he barely speaks English and probably was scared. The money demand is not him, that’s the schemers now trying to suppress the video to avoid actual analysis) could go along way to help the former officer. Even weirder, if Slager had left that taser in place, there probably wouldn’t even be a chargeable offense. Of course, in that scenario, South Carolina would have to be burned down to the ground.

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