DOJ Report States “Hands Up – Don’t Shoot” Narrative Was Completely False – We Again Explain Its Origin

Today the DOJ released their comprehensive finding report on the Mike Brown shooting. The DOJ Report states unequivocally the “Hands Up – Don’t Shoot” narrative was a completely false construct, but yet the media ran with it for months. Why? Here’s the report, and our previous overview of exactly how that ridiculous narrative was started.

Understanding The Origin Of The Mike Brown Narrative

When we first began digging in to the Mike Brown story something odd was immediately identifiable. The individual witness statements, when compared over time, were case studies in the evolution of self-contradiction.

But why ?

It’s generally a true statement that eye witnesses testimonials can often be unreliable; but the statements of the Canfield Greens apartment complex who immediately hit the New York media circuit were beyond unreliable – they were actually contradicting themselves from show to show, often within hours.

A little research into the shooting aftermath and things began to fall into place.

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The primary witnesses used to create what we’ll call ‘the media narrative’ were and are: Dorian Johnson, Piaget Crenshaw, and Tiffany Mitchell.

A few days later another witness, Michael Brady, surfaced. However, Brady didn’t exactly follow the same script – and we soon discovered why.

To understand the origin of the “Hands Up – Don’t shoot” tale it helps to have a firm understanding of where each of the players are AT THE MOMENT the Mike Brown and Officer Wilson encounter took place.

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Tiffany Mitchell was arriving to the apartment complex in her car to pick up Piaget Crenshaw for work. Tiffany’s car pulled in as the shooting took place.

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Tiffany Mitchell's car

Piaget Crenshaw, Tiffany’s friend, was in her apartment.

As Piaget Crenshaw explained, Tiffany had just called Piaget to tell her she had arrived, when Tiffany noticed something happening down the street in front of Piaget’s apartment.

Minutes earlier, according to Michael Brady, Dorian Johnson, Mike Brown’s strong-arm robbery cohort, had taken up a hiding position behind a parked two-door white -or silver- vehicle located on the sidewalk.

Moments later, as Tiffany Mitchell was walking to her friends apartment, Dorian disappeared further to the parking lot between where Tiffany’s car and Piaget’s apartment were located.

Witness Michael Brady was in his apartment at the West side of that parking area – originally, according to his statements, looking out his window as a consequence of hearing the voices, shouts, and initial scuffle at Wilson’s SUV.

You’ll note all of these people are essentially in the North Western region of the crime scene. THIS IS IMPORTANT TO FURTHER UNDERSTANDING.

The grassy area between the parking spaces for both Mike Brady and and Piaget Crenshaw’s buildings became the gathering place AFTER the shooting; as people who lived in each building began exiting their apartments.

It’s a Saturday – and it’s just after noon.

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Police ariel for CTH review - canfield North

What initially sticks out to an independent observer is that ALL of the New York media witnesses, those who have made the TV circuit, are from this physical area of the incident observation.

Virtually none of the witnesses on the Southside of Canfield Drive appeared in the news; nor did any the witnesses East of Piaget Crenshaw’s apartment initially appear in the news.

To understand why the Northwestern quadrant witnesses were in the media – you need to understand how quickly the scene was initially cordoned off. It’s actually a little bizarre, interesting, and yet incredibly simple why things happened as they did.

The immediate placement of crime scene tape stopped people from walking through the crime scene where the body of Michael Brown lay in the street. However, it also stopped people from traveling amid the complex.

Police units arrived within 2 minutes of the shooting.

12:02 – Officer Wilson (Unit 21) encounters Mike Brown and Dorian Johnson telling dispatch he’s about to make contact.
12:03 – First back-up officer (Unit 25) arrives on the scene (Brown is dead)
12:04 – Third officer (Unit 22) arrives on scene – Captain is dispatched.

The police officers immediately begin securing the scene at 12:04/05 less than 3 minutes from the time the shots were fired.

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Crime tape is used to cordon off the area.

In essence Mike Brown’s physical location created an area of non-passage, and the police tape created a grid.

Witnesses were confined to their immediate geography. Moments later, as tensions escalated, those perimeters were even more secured as dozens more police units arrived.

Essentially all of the witnesses became confined or corralled to their physical locations.

Canfield Map 4 with witness locations

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The media arrived into the apartment complex following the same path Mike Brown and Dorian Johnson had been walking.

The initial media, and consequently the immediate media footage, all showed perspectives from the North West side of the crime scene looking East down Canfield Drive as seen above.

Coincidentally, this puts the arriving media in EXACTLY the same location as the gathering witnesses who later appeared in the New York Media – in the Northwest quadrant.

The same area as Tiffany’s car, the same parking lot as Michael Brady and Piaget Crenshaw. The same parking lot where Dorian Johnson ran after the encounter with Officer Darren Wilson.

Interestingly it was the appearance of Dorian Johnson, in this exact area, in the background shots of the first media live feeds that piqued our curiosity.

We were researching the location of the principal witnesses not expecting to find Dorian Johnson hanging around in the crowd, but there he was.

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Yes, Dorian Johnson the strong-arm robbery accomplice, and participant in the incident, was right there in the crowd; from the outset, talking, listening, and watching intently. Later we discovered he actually moved to this media location after being on the opposite side of Piaget’s apartment building – where the Mike Brown journey began hours earlier.

As you can see, Dorian had removed his dark colored T-shirt, slung it over his left shoulder, and was standing amid the crowd of observers watching the investigation unfold.

A lucky turn of events for the first media on the scene who initially interviewed him without understanding the full scope of how he related to the events at hand.

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Additionally interesting, and vastly self-explanatory, is how Piaget Crenshaw, Tiffany Mitchell, and Dorian Johnson were all in the exact same crowd merely feet away from each other as the “what happened” conversations continued.

Tiffany arrived to pick up Piaget for work. It was at that exact moment when Officer Wilson was pulling the trigger about 150 feet down the street. Tiffany and Piaget were on the phone as Tiffany pulled in to pick her up.

Piaget begins looking out her window, as Tiffany walks up to her apartment. Tiffany joins Piaget and together they look out over the body of Mike Brown from the window and the stairway balcony.

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Police ariel for CTH review - canfield east

Here is a picture taken from their position looking right (West)

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Here is a perspective from their location looking left (East)


They took both pictures and video. You’ll notice there’s no actual video or pictures from Tiffany or Piaget until about minutes AFTER the shooting itself as they are documenting the post shooting activity.

However, once the body of Mike Brown was covered both Tiffany and Piaget went into the parking lot where Tiffany’s car was located, but also where the crowd was gathering and discussing what just took place.

For simplicity we shall call this area the “Grassy Knoll”.

Canfield Map 4 with witness locations

Michael Brady was also on the Grassy Knoll area having left his apartment to take phone video footage of the events as they unfolded.

ASSEMBLY COMPLETE – There you have the confluence of witnesses and participants; Dorian Johnson, Tiffany Mitchell, Piaget Crenshaw and Michael Brady, all within moments of the shooting, all within feet of each other. These are the same people who did the New York media circuit.

Tiffany and Piaget not actually having witnessed the actual shooting per se’, but witnessing all of the events immediately after.

Only Michael Brady had witnessed some of the event, which he described as “a tussle”, at the SUV and seconds later some of the event of the shooting scene. The event void for Brady was the time it took him to grab his phone and walk outside to the stairwell balcony.

*Remember according to the CNN shooting audio from beginning to end the fired shots were less than 7 seconds TOTAL:

  • Shots 1 through 6 took 1.8729 seconds.
  • Pause 2.76 seconds
  • Shots 7 through 10 took 1.6273 seconds.

After the shooting, and ultimately as the community was gathering, Michael Brady, Dorian Johnson, Tiffany Mitchell and Piaget Crenshaw all ended up on the Grassy Knoll.

In addition some other key people begin to arrive and assemble in the same area. Most notably Mike Brown’s mom, Lesley McSpadden, and her boyfriend, Louis Head.

However, additional “interested parties” had also arrived into this cordoned off Grassy Knoll area.

Calvin Ewings, Mike Brown’s uncle arrived – and almost simultaneously so too did the key player who immediately knew how to put all the witness ingredients into just the right formula….

…. enter Mr. Anthony Shahid.

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That’s Mr. Shahid, aka “green shirt guy” getting in the face of the riot police. Mr. Shahid likes to wear a mock police captain’s hat:

“The police hat: “I wear the police hat because the police are killing us – and because we need to see more black police leaders.” (link)

This is also Anthony Shahid standing behind Dorian Johnson in the initial media interview:

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Anthony Shahid and Steve Stenger

Anthony Shahid is a severe racial and anti-police antagonist within the Saint Louis community. He is very well known by activists and law enforcement. Mr. Shahid is an avowed friend of the notorious Louis Farrakhan, and also a National Action Network (NAN) friend of MSNBC’s Al Sharpton.

As this article from 2003 gently headlines: “Who’s Afraid of Anthony Shahid? – He’s a hero to some, a pain to others. Either way, he makes people very nervous“:

[…] When they were led to the elevator, Shahid and his friend John Bordeaux came, too. Both men have led civil-rights protests, but Shahid’s a professional agitator, an agitator who makes even his allies reach for water. Bordeaux usually comes off as the reasonable one, shrugging indulgently at his friend’s excesses. An ousted president of the St. Louis NAACP chapter, Bordeaux is also better known. Shahid plays his own game, regardless of what the rest of the world thinks of him.

“We’re going up with the sister,” Kessler remembers Shahid telling the Barnes security guard.

“He made me feel personally uncomfortable,” admits the attorney, “because even after we were getting what we wanted, he kept escalating, whipping it up. I never did figure out what his agenda was. But I can’t say anything bad — (link)

As the famous saying goes: ….And That’s How Things Get Started.

Apparently, with years of activism under his belt Mr. Shahid knows how to find the nucleus in an opportunity – and quick.

It was only moments until Shahid, wearing a green shirt -and initially identified in our research as the “green shirt guy”- was quickly working his crowd magic.

As soon as the general script was outlined Dorian Johnson was put in front of the cameras with self-admitted “cop hater and grievance producer”, Anthony Shahid, watching closely.

Johnson is witnessed in this video being held tight by Mike Brown uncle, Calvin Ewings.

And watch as community organizer Shahid gives and delivers instructions from the background:

Just off camera, yet within earshot of the audio, Tiffany Mitchell and Piaget Crenshaw were awaiting their camera-turn when, according to Piaget, she was instructed to talk to Lesley McSpadden, Mike Brown’s mom, and confirm to her that it was indeed her son dead at the eastern end of Canfield Drive.

All of the family, and all of the New York media witnesses, and all of the provocateur’s now together on the grassy knoll area.

Overtaken with emotion Big Mike’s mom collapsed in grief and shock (pictured below).

As quick as a jackrabbit, and totally understanding the value of the moment in front of a watching media, Anthony Shahid knew just what to do with the surrounding crowd:

“Hands Up, Don’t Shoot”

They killed her son in cold blood; Damn punk ass fuckin’ cops

…. And so a T-Shirt meme was born.

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Hands up, don’t shoot. Soon turned into violence, looting, rioting and general mayhem. The exact outcome of the ingredients Anthony Shahid put together on that Grassy Knoll on August 9th.

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Once Dorian, Tiffany and Piaget got the ‘Hand’s Up’ message into the New York media narrative, the actual truth, those “pesky facts”, well, they really didn’t matter.

THE OUTLIER – The only character of the Grassy Knoll bunch who didn’t take the initial spotlight was Michael Brady – and there’s a really good reason for that.

Not coincidentally Brady’s interviews tell a far different story than the Knoll bunch.

Brady’s invisibility on the afternoon in question, and his removal from the socially pressuring group think, is also the reason his actual witness phone footage was delayed. Mike Brady turned over his cell phone video to the police – to this day the entire footage has not been fully seen.

After originally giving his footage to the STL county investigation team, a few days later they gave it back.

It was this “newer” footage that piqued the media yet again and fueled more coverage. Subsequently Brady joined the same media tour Mitchell and Piaget had covered several days earlier.

However, according to Brady’s own words, the footage he has given to the requested media shows a divergent set of facts.

According to Brady, Big Mike Brown was actually witnessed at the vehicle punching officer Wilson. This is what he first witnessed when he looked out the window from his vantage point. Remember, Brady was an actual witness to at least part of the event – Tiffany and Piaget were witnesses to the aspect *AFTER* the shots were fired.

It is not coincidental that none of the New York media alphabets, nor their ideologically aligned cable cohorts, ever aired the full Michael Brady footage. Those same media outlets have previously broadcast the post shooting – “non witness” footage from Tiffany and Piaget, and perhaps that explains their reluctance to broadcast anything which would contradict all those prior hours of viewership.

However, at least one lefty-pundit was willing to go on record and admit the content of the Michael Brady footage itself. MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell was man enough to admit the omission on air.

MSNBC, or any New York national network, would have collapsed the entire “Hand’s Up” narrative if they had aired the Brady video and contrast the disparity against the Crenshaw and Mitchell narrative – they know it.

In my opinion that’s specifically why they didn’t air Brady’s video against the narrative of Crenshaw and Mitchell. You’ll also notice Michael Brady was the only witness not given the fancy studio media sit down stage setting, nor did he ever require an attorney for his interviews.

CNN’s Anderson Cooper interviewed Mike Brady outside his apartment. Likewise Cuomo did his interview “on scene” at the complex, meanwhile O’Donnell gave him the outside satellite interview.

Michael Brady is the only person from the Grassy Knoll who did NOT sell the Anthony Shahid “Hands Up” storyline.

In the interview above with Anderson Cooper you can see Brady try to avoid having to answer why the other witnesses are laying claim to something he is sure did not take place.

When you witness Brady’s interviews you can tell he’s consciously worried about that fine line between telling the facts honestly, and becoming a victim to the isolation felt as a consequence of going up against the “snitches get stitches” crowd. After all, he does have to live in this community when all the media trucks pack up and move on.

As to the Dorian, Tiffany and Piaget story, and make no doubt whatsoever it was a story, well, its usefulness has essentially run its course. And, unfortunately, fulfilled its purpose.

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96 Responses to DOJ Report States “Hands Up – Don’t Shoot” Narrative Was Completely False – We Again Explain Its Origin

  1. deqwik2 says:

    This article is talking about witnesses who saw the shooting but were afraid to testify because there were signs in the neighborhood “Snitches get Stitches”. One even states that he knew Dorian lied on national tv but was scared to death to give formal report.

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    • doodahdaze says:

      He is prolly in witness protection now. Where be him? Who was he is my question?


      • Judgy says:

        He’s some poor child’s FATHER. And the cycle continues…….

        I hope at some point this “Thugz rule!”/ “No snitching”/ “Education is a WHITE thang” can be reversed, but it looks pretty bleak. I have SO much sympathy for the poor little kids who have to grow up in this culture, but admittedly, I tend to lose it the older and older they get. That’s probably not fair at all; I’m sure it doesn’t HELP, and I suspect many here feel the same helplessness/ concern/ anger that I do. Ultimately, it’s probably much like the Islamic Extremist problem–can only be solved WITHIN the community itself, but is SO frustrating and sad to watch! I HATE that I don’t have very much sympathy for Leslie Mc Spadden, but I admit that I don’t. Rereading the origins of Trayvon Martin’s thugism the other day DID actually make me feel for HIM though. Guess ultimately it doesn’t much matter how I, some random white chick on a website feel, but then again, “they” maintain that they’re so angry b/c “WE” don’t think “Black Lives Matter”. I don’t really believe that’s the case, but how the HELL could we convey that when the damn MSM is so against us??

        This next election is SUCH a potential turning point, and it’s terrifying me. I wish and hope we can get the black community–the “Ferguson” types–to understand we DON’T hate them b/c they are BLACK. We hate how they ACT. And they themselves would be SOOOOOOO much better off realizing that in no way do they HAVE to act like that!!

        I dunno–I feel like I’d rather help American citizens who are at least SUPPOSED to be here than illegals, who may indeed have better work ethics (that’s often a myth though), but maybe that’s just cuz I’ve lived in L.A. during the angry, angry protests and was ASTONISHED to witness people admitting they’re here illegally, yet still feeling perfectly justified in DEMANDING their “rights”. Maybe I just feel like the black community, for all the problems, has more of a point…??

        We are up against the worst lying liars who lie, lie and lie. My question, I THINK, is would we have any hope of breaking up the poisonous BGI by employing the same divisiveness used by our opponents? Except I feel like WE’D at least be speaking the truth…….to misquote Kanye-on-the-telethon: “Barack Obama does not really care about black people”. (Okay, he likes ’em more than WHITES, but still!). I don’t think progs much do either, or the ones that genuinely DO, are also genuinely MISGUIDED. So………?

        A grieving black father spoke to TPTB the other day, Jamiel Shaw, Sr. His son was killed by an illegal alien. No nationwide protests, little MSM attention. Mr. Shaw sadly asked. “Don’t ALL black lives matter?? Or just the ones killed by WHITE people?”.


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        • doodahdaze says:

          Well, if ya keep clawing away at it sooner or later results start to occur. Months after they do around here. For example…


        • doodahdaze says:

          Months or years later too.


        • doodahdaze says:

          I was reading your post and wonder if you have recently started to become aware, or if you have been aware for a long time. Just wondering. Sometimes I think when I put up a post I am jus talking to the choir who already knows and understands. The Last Refuge.

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          • Judgy says:

            Oh honey, I am the classic ex-bleeding-heart-who’s-been-mugged (literally–by a gang of black teens in Manhattan, complete w/ a couldn’t-be-more-than-six-year-old-thug-in-training, who called me a “White Bitch”, and stole my glasses right off my face. I’m sure it must’ve been cuz he NEEDED them, right?). Never a “prog”, just was very, very concerned w/ being kind to others–this stemming from being raised by a fantastically DECENT World War Two vet who was about twenty years older than all my friends’ parents. Being raised strictly, with depression-era values, in kind of a liberal enclave, made me kind of an odd duck/ anachronism. When some of the many homeless/ bums around would ask my dad for money, I had witnessed him instead take the chap out for lunch, and gently try to get the story of just how he had ended up that way……….ONE TIME THOUGH. He would often bring janitors from his workplace home for dinner, and drove my mother bonkers by constantly giving stuff away. Yet, he was in NO way a liberal–just a sweet, stubborn man’s man (who also kept buying me toy trains–a “feminist”??). So I’m not sure I quite know how to answer your question–I think I was always at least half-“aware”, yet still too Anne Frank-ish for my own good, and didn’t want to admit what I was thinking (I think that may be called “being annoying”?). One can learn SO much on this site, and I really feel like I HAVE. So although I might seem like I have the zealotry of the newly converted, I think maybe it’s just more that I’ve had my previous ideas CONFIRMED here.

            Is that even what you MEANT? LOL. 🙂


            • Judgy says:

              (Oh ya…..and I LOVE choirs, especially this one! Now I’m going to lay off the caffeine though, shush myself, and try to keep learning more stuff–my apologies for being so wordy; it’s exciting here). Thanks for being SMART, Mr. Doodah!

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        • 7delta says:

          I wish and hope we can get the black community–the “Ferguson” types–to understand we DON’T hate them b/c they are BLACK. We hate how they ACT. And they themselves would be SOOOOOOO much better off realizing that in no way do they HAVE to act like that!!

          Yes! White people aren’t their enemy. White people don’t want to keep them down. Why would we? It’s not logical. It doesn’t benefit us.

          If given a choice of tax dollars going to create enclaves of dysfunction, more prisons and harm to people or supporting their opportunity to be educated, successful and independent, the only people who would choose to keep them dependent, uneducated and angry are people who benefit from it. The general taxpaying citizenry does not benefit, no matter what color they are. Whites sure don’t get anything special, emotionally, financially, or culturally, out of oppressing blacks. In fact, the current system and the chaos…key word there…created by it and by the radical elements cause completely avoidable problems that harm everyone, especially the dependent community. The only beneficiaries are the people who gain power, status and money from block voting, community organizing, the BGI’s spoils and the radicals who are using blacks to fundamentally transform America into a 3rd world country, all while actively replacing blacks with illegal aliens as their new ride to get what they want. Blacks are getting screwed again…by the very people who claim to working on their behalf and have been screwing them for decades and decades.

          My first thought when I heard about this report was that the BGI failed to extract their pound of cash from Ferguson (“We just want an arrest!”) like they did in Sanford, so Holder just handed the Scheme Team another venue. Crump and Dump can now represent every disgruntled black person who has ever had a run-in with the Ferguson police. Legitimacy of the complaint is unimportant. A class action suit will work just fine. Crump and Dump will walk off with millions. The litigants will get only a few bucks and the black community will be left in a worse place than they were before they got ‘justice’.

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        • o says:

          A black police officer was murdered in cold blood the other day. A man with over 20 years on the force. As you all may have noticed there is not one word about this killing in the media. You do know why there is no attention to this murder, don’t you?


          • 7delta says:

            Obviously, his murder doesn’t serve the narrative, so there’s no benefit for the BGI.

            I’m sorry. His value was great to the people who loved him and to the community he helped keep safe, as well as to those of us who didn’t know him, but appreciated his life and service. I’ll remember him and his family in my prayers.


  2. Dixie Darling says:

    Fantastic job, Sundance.

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  3. doodahdaze says:

    CRUMP!!!! Parks!!!! are the root. They are now regressing back to….”He should have stayed in the car”. After all the carnage they caused. I am not kidding. I hope the Flabar puts and end to them. They still have a couple years left to act.

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  4. Sharon says:

    The DOJ sort of handed Witness 148 her lunch.

    I didn’t expect that they would use such plain language as in the report, acknowledging they didn’t have a case. They decided not to leave anything hanging over Darren Wilson’s head. That’s nice of them.

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    • doodahdaze says:

      The DOJ has confirmed CTH reporting and destroyed the MSM narrative. SDC should get the Pulitzer. They are 100% discredited and SDC is 100% confirmed. He was right and they were wrong. It is not arguable. A slam dunk. CTH credible….MSM not credible.

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      • Judgy says:

        Sundance is AMAZING. I cannot emphasize enough how grateful I am to have found this website, and the people who contribute here. Y’all don’t just COMPLAIN, like many other sites (those can be fun too, of course–LOTS to complain about!). You live up to the absolute credo of what I feel conservatism is–Personal Responsibility. SD doesn’t just sit home watching the CSI’s, and SVU’s (like I do), he actively SEEKS THE TRUTH. That isn’t just exciting, it’s SOUL-AFFIRMING.

        As frightening as it is to find out that the bad guys are not only as bad as we had thought, but even WORSE, we’re all far better off knowing. Sometimes wish I had found you all BEFORE Trayvon, but sunlight is still sunlight, even if some of us are late bloomers. My only REAL regret is in our society’s moronically short attention span, b/c some of the friend-acquaintances I had been trying to point out the “Hands Up!” LIE to months ago, are obsessed today w/ that damn dress, or w/ the Weasel on the Woodpecker photo (#WoodpeckerLivesMatter! #WeaselsGottaEatToo! That’d be a fun protest).

        Still, this can’t really be GOOD for the Dems. So kudos again, SD! I’ve been WANTING to say this for a while now, it’s FAR cooler than, say, the SNL tagline, cooler than “Pants up, don’t loot!”, and much more timeless……….”WOLVERINES”!!!!! 🙂 😀 🙂

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        • TKim says:

          Most progressives have no idea how bad things are, because what cannot be sanitized, tilted, or inverted by mainstream media usually doesn’t see the light of day. I found this site by reading Jack Cashill’s book on the persecution of George Zimmerman. I then began reading the books and blogs mentioned by members.

          I realized several years ago that to be an American progressive meant to deny reality. Although popular culture is a “feel good” tsunami of progressivism, I knew I couldn’t ape words that let me fit in, but live a lie. Our country is a nation where true adults are becoming rather thin on the ground. We tell ourselves we are grown ups because we go to a job and pay lots of bills, but we are watching protracted adolescence into the fifth decade of life.

          Part of that is the desire (desperation) to be cool, hip, relevant. It is the quest for the youthful face and body, the desire to skip the adult thinking (starting with political current events) and have at least fifteen friends on Facebook tell us we look beautiful in each and every selfie.

          Speaking the truth about the problems choking our nation is not hip, cool, youthful or fun, unless it is what the cool kids are saying, which is that all problems flow from the uber wealthy and the GOP. To call even a ruthless, Mercedes driving drug dealer a thug is to “blame the oppressed victim.” And once he is locked up, what is to be one of his 13 kids and their mothers? He is a vestige of slavery, see, and is simply not responsible for his sad choices.

          We reach a point where we assess what has become of American since we were kids. And we realize that with the current downhill slide–gaining momentum–the best we may be able to hope for our future generations is that they can be ex-pats somewhere safe as the country we knew goes to ashes.

          Then we get angry. We get angry as parents, angry as the children of patriots, angry for the vets and those who gave the ultimate sacrifice, for those who are prey because of having white skin,for those who have to take a circuitous route home from work to avoid what amounts to urban jungles, and angry as people of faith that morality is treated as everything from an anachronism to bigotry.

          Every action, every choice, every prayer, every email, every utterance must be examined to see if somehow, somewhere, you have offended another person. Even a person who has lived his or her entire life on the taxpayer’s dime and has a rap sheet three pages long. What exactly did that pastor mean when he said “watermelon” or “criminal” or “food stamps” on his broadcast? Get this on twitter! Call Al Sharpton! Assemble at this racist’s home and church! No justice, no peace.

          The Treehouse began because Sundance wasn’t going to spin his wheels in anger, and neither were his like minded friends. They put on their investigator’s hats and got busy. They work at it every day. And they maintain a site of civility, morality, decency and above all truth. They walk the walk. And most of them do it with a humility that is awe inspiring.

          I don’t know how many progs have read here and come slouching into the light, but I assume it is more than they’d ever know. Good deeds are like that.

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      • PatriotUSA says:

        Agree with every word. SDC, CTH slam dunk, 12 strikes in a row, grand slam, six point play, Just superbly done and why I am always here, every day.

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      • John Galt says:

        “A slam dunk.”

        BGI does it again.


    • justfactsplz says:

      Yes it is Sharon. I was very surprised and pleasantly so. Officer Wilson deserved nothing less. I hope he and his new family can have some kind of semblance of a normal life.


      • tappin52 says:

        Does anyone really believe that Darren Wilson could ever have a normal life again? He has been destroyed and no amount of “never mind” is going to calm the natives down. They have their narrative and it has been adopted and repeated across the globe. The DOJ has cut Wilson out of the narrative, but it continues as a useful tool to bash the police from coast to coast. Even after this report, the next incident will bring the same players with the same media slant and the same carnage. Darren Wilson was just an incidental casualty of war.

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        • justfactsplz says:

          Darren Wilson and George Zimmerman are victims of the race game. They are hated and people want to kill them even though they have been proven innocent. Anytime a white has to defend themselves against a black it will bring out the scheme team, the false narrative and a media willing to pedal the lies.


    • jason says:

      the cynicist in me thinks W148 might solely be cover for why the DOJ took 3 additional months to complete their investigation into the case after the GJ cleared Wilson of all charges.

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    • o says:

      Holder had bigger fish to fry than one innocent police officer. He went after the entire police department.


    • lilbirdee'12 says:

      I agree with all statements before me. The Conservative Treehouse IS the best tree in the forest. IF credit was given to the best as it should be, this would be Sundances’ THIRD Pulitzer !!!!!! (GZ, Benghazi, Ferguson)


  5. visage13 says:

    Too bad the msm will never report that part of the DOJ report and if they do it will be mentioned in an aside.

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    • doodahdaze says:

      I am thinking this internet freedom is not long for the world. Sourcing is being erased at a fast clip. PC has a chokehold on the internet. So enjoy while you can. JMO. Think Oafrah waiting for all the old whites to die fast.


      • TKim says:

        Ah, Oprah, Botox be darned you ain’t no spring chicken yourself. We die off and you’re going with us. Perhaps you can watch the utopia you desire from your VIP seat in hell.

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  6. Rocky Mtn Mama says:

    I posted this on another thread, but I’ll repeat it here. In the Wilson report, where they are talking about Witness 140, one of this blog’s posts was referred to as an “obscure media article.” LOL. The DOJ reads CTH.

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  7. firefly says:

    I remember, Chief Jon Belmar in an interview with news… paraphrasing ” There was at least one gunshot in the car”. When I heard that, I knew it must have been self-defense.
    Wilson was assaulted, punched, and fought for his gun. When he exited his vehicle he knew that Mike Brown was a dangerous felon.
    Needless to say the witnesses are all in cahoots with Anthony Shahid,only because they were brainwashed by the activist before the story was even out.

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  8. Be Ge says:

    Did the DoJ suggest lifetime ban on all and any welfare for identified / proven proMB rioters?


  9. Rodney Plonker says:

    My favorite

    “Witness 108 is a 74-year-old black male who claimed to have witnessed the shooting, stated that it was justified, but repeatedly refused to give formal statements to law enforcement for fear of reprisal should the Canfield Drive neighborhood find out that his account corroborated Wilson. He was served with a county grand jury subpoena and refused to appear”.

    Later on..

    “During the investigators’ attempts to find Witness 108, another individual reported that two days after the shooting, Witness 108 confided in her that he “would have fucking shot that boy, too.” In saying so, Witness 108 mimicked an aggressive stance with his hands out in front of him, as though he was about to charge. SLCPD detectives finally tracked down Witness 108 at a local repair shop, where he reluctantly explained that Wilson told Brown to “stop” or “get down” at least ten times, but instead Brown “charged” at Wilson. Witness 108 told detectives that there were other witnesses on Canfield Drive who witnessed the same thing. An SLCPD detective and federal prosecutor again tracked down Witness 108 in hopes of obtaining a more formal statement. However, Witness 108 refused to provide additional details to either county or federal authorities, citing community sentiment to support a “hands up” surrender narrative as his reason to remain silent. He explained that he would rather go to jail than testify before the county grand jury.”

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  10. czarowniczy says:

    There are any number of local-gone-viral news stories in the past where the media, in need of a good ‘hook’ to promote the story, have grasped onto some small floating piece of fantasy and promoted it because it sounds good. How about the Rev JJ’s claim that MLK ‘died in his arms’ at the Lorraine motel? How about the infamous photograph of Mary Ann Vecchio kneeling by the bodies at Kent State that was – shall we say – embellished from the 14-year old runaway who ‘befriended’ a couple of Kent State students into something else? And there are more.
    I have the suspicion that the BGI and DoJ not only didn’t clear the air but purposely kept the ‘Hands Up – Don’t Shoot’ narrative and movement pumped and going for their own self-serving reasons. If the Administration weren’t so secular they’d have run both Trayvon and Michael for sainthood by now. The story’s so good that I have an idea that CRS might have just gone out and shot someone if they thought they could get another incident on a roll.
    ‘DoJ gets Emmy for best prime-time fiction writing’ – there’s a headline I’d like to see.


  11. Jeffrey says:

    Sundance, you may need to send this directly to Eric Smolder…. He looked so damn clueless on tv today when he stated they couldn’t understand how all the officers testimony and the forensic evidence didn’t agree with many eyewitness reports. You could here the gasps in the background.


  12. nivico says:

    I think this is my favorite part of the DOJ ‘Wilson’ report so far:

    ii. Witnesses Consistent with Prior Statements, Physical Evidence, and Other Witnesses Who Inculpate Wilson

    There are no witnesses who fall under this category.

    Not a credible witness among all of Wilson’s accusers… not… a… single… one.

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  13. pspsst says:

    Excellent summary with new photos.

    One thing I could never understand until now is why Mike Brown turned and charged Officer Wilson, after being told to stop running.

    Gangs have adopted major brands and logos for their own nefarious uses, and somewhat shockingly, or not, the Crips of which Brown belonged (red cap, etc.) have a slogan based on the Converse All Star sneakers which goes “All Slobs Turn And Run”.

    Guess Brown over-identified with being a slob? and felt he had to Turn and Attack to stay a true Blood Crip.


    Gangs is the problem along with Stompy Feet and Holder I-Was-Stopped-for-Being-Black-in-My-Own-Mind-By-a-Cop-once Eric.


  14. TColeman says:

    I couldn’t wait for this article to explain why the 2 white construction workers at the scene immediately said that Mike Brown had his hands up, but it never did. I guess the 2 construction workers were thugged out drug smoking gangstas too, that happened to see the same thing everyone else there saw, lol. Please explain why the 2 white construction workers yelled that his hands were up and then this article won’t seem so bias, lol


    • TeddyOn20th says:

      They were looking for their 15 minutes of fame and said what they knew the media wanted to hear.


    • One of the construction workers said he saw MB being chased by three(3) police officers. Nobody else ever claims to have seen this. Do you think it might be possible they actually didn’t see the shooting at all?

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    • Gary says:

      Because they didn’t yell that his hands were up. The video you saw was altered to crop out another person raising his hands just before the construction worker raises his. It’s possible that the person (who was cropped from the video) was raising his arms in a “WTF happened?” gesture and the construction worker raised his in a “I don’t know WTF just happened?” sort of gesture. The voice on the video was that of the man who was cropped.

      So – no – the construction workers never did yell out that his hands were up.


      • Gary says:

        Oh – my bad – The DOJ report claims it was the construction worker who said he had his hands in the air:

        The contractors, apparently unwittingly, were captured on a widely circulated video taken several minutes after the shooting while responding officers were securing the scene with crime scene tape. That video depicts another individual yelling, “He wasn’t no threat at all,” as Witness 122 put his hands up and stated, “He had his fucking hands in the air.” As detailed below, two other witnesses, Witness 128 and Witness 137, each took credit for making the statement, “He wasn’t no threat at all.”
        Both of those witnesses have since acknowledged to federal agents and prosecutors that they did not, in fact, know whether Brown was a threat. “

        But the construction worker also described this:

        Witness 122 insisted that there were three officers present during the shootings, demonstrating the inaccuracy of his perception. Witness 122 described three uniformed police officers engaged with Brown in a “triangle formation” at the time of the shootings. Witness 122 described a heavyset, older officer, and two “skinny, little people,” one of whom was possibly a female and the other with dark hair and a moustache, who was a head shorter than the heavyset officer. Witness 122 described the shooter as the heavyset officer. Witness 122 explained that the heavset officer shot until he ran out of bullets, and then the shorter officer with the moustache trained his gun on Brown, but did not shoot. These statements cannot be reconciled with the fact that Wilson was the only officer present when Brown was shot and that Wilson has a slim build.


    • talkaftercarefulthought says:

      if you want some good reading that will clear up the “why” for you please Google “mcmartin preschool abuse trial” and for goodness sake, take a couple of deep breaths


    • jason says:

      From report: p. 59
      The contractors, apparently unwittingly, were captured on a widely circulated video taken
      several minutes after the shooting while responding officers were securing the scene with crime scene tape. That video depicts another individual yelling, “He wasn’t no threat at all,” as Witness 122 put his hands up and stated, “He had his fucking hands in the air.” As detailed below, two other witnesses, Witness 128 and Witness 137, each took credit for making the statement, “He wasn’t no threat at all.”Both of those witnesses have since acknowledged to federal agents and prosecutors that they did not, in fact, know whether Brown was a threat.

      P. 59 – When Witness 122 demonstrated the position of Brown’s hands for federal prosecutors and agents, he wavered from a position of surrender to
      one indicative of a person trying to maintain balance

      P. 58 – Witness 122 also claimed that Brown put his right hand to the ground to regain his balance when he was hit and as he turned around. According to both contractors, Brown then turned around with his hands up and repeatedly screamed “Okay!” as many as eight times, an exclamation heard by no other witness.

      P. 58 – Witness 122 described Brown being shot in the back and “knew he had gotten hit.” In fact, both contractors claimed to have witnessed bullets go through Brown and exit his back, as evidenced by his shirt “popping back” and “stuff coming through.” However, in his interview with federal prosecutors, Witness 122 explained that he thought that Brown was shot in the back and stumbled until he saw media reports about the
      autopsy commissioned by Brown’s family. After learning about that autopsy, he realized that Brown was not shot in the back and admittedly changed his account.
      p. 59 -“Contrary to the autopsy results establishing that the shot to the top of Brown’s head would have incapacitated Brown almost immediately, both contractors insisted that Brown continued to move toward Wilson as far as 20, 25, or even 30 feet after the final shots. Witness 122 described Brown as walking “dead on his feet, and then he just fell forward.” Later, both contractors admitted that they did not actually see Brown fall to the ground, because their view was obstructed by the corner of a building”

      p. 59 – Witness 122 insisted that there were three officers present during the shootings, demonstrating the inaccuracy of his perception. Witness 122 described three uniformed police officers engaged with Brown in a “triangle formation” at the time of the shootings. Witness 122 described the shooter as the heavyset officer. Witness 122 explained that the heavset officer shot until he ran out of bullets, and then the shorter officer with the moustache trained his gun on Brown, but did not shoot. These statements cannot be reconciled with the fact that Wilson was the only officer present when Brown was shot and that Wilson has a slim build

      p. 59 “According to the Brown family, Witness 122 called them after the shooting and told them that he had seen Wilson shoot Brown execution-style as Brown was on his knees holding his hands in the air. However, Witness 122 denied making any statements about the nature of the shooting to the Brown family. As mentioned, despite his earlier statements, Witness 122 recanted the claim that he actually saw Brown fall dead to the ground.”


    • jason says:

      From pages 58-60 of DOJ report
      When Witness 122 (contractor) demonstrated the position of Brown’s hands for federal prosecutors and agents, he wavered from a position of surrender to one indicative of a person trying to maintain balance.

      additional info from 1st contractor link-
      2nd contractor info link-


  15. doodahdaze says:

    Plus Ultra. The DOJ is upset to find that the Ferguson Criminals do not have good relations with the Police. Maybe if they put Kerry in as PoPo Chief he could patch things up. Police/Criminal relations and such must be improved.


  16. coeurdaleneman says:

    While it doesn’t change the gist of SD’s report (that the main publicized witnesses were liars that couldn’t see the incident), one detail should be corrected.

    Tiffany Mitchell drove a van into Piaget’s parking lot, and not an Impala. The black vehicle that she was photographed next to–and inside of–was a detective’s rig in which she was interviewed; away from the grassy knoll’s influencers. This was discovered after the release of the grand jury materials. During the last days of this case’s heydays here, poster Gary made some awesome graphics that positioned the van.


    • jason says:

      summary of her statements on on pages 55-56, the glaring/most obvious lie is what she was doing during the shooting:

      Upon hearing that gunshot, Witness 127 drove around the SUV and turned left into a
      nearby parking lot. She parked her car and got out. By that time, she saw Brown running and heard shots being fired. Witness 127 did not actually see Wilson exit the SUV, but she saw him chase after Brown. Witness 127 described volleys of gunshots without specificity. She explained that once she was out of her car, she began walking on the sidewalk as the shooting continued.

      Aside from fact it’s entirely inconsistent with her media based accounts, we have video of her walking on the sidewalk from Brady, and it’s well after the shooting occurring after 2nd backup officer had arrived on scene.


  17. mcfyre2012 says:

    Good stuff. Between the Tree and the DoJ report, I would think that both Wilson and the city of Ferguson should start some civil litigations against the whole HU-DS gang…from Shahin to Sharpton.


  18. Tracer Round says:

    I noticed the cousin’s Oakland Raider cap. Before being edumocated in the JLC threads, I would have assumed he was merely a fan.

    Wonder if it represents something else…?


  19. The Justice Department’s report includes a section, beginning on page 44, titled “Witnesses Whose Accounts Do Not Support a Prosecution Due to Materially Inconsistent Prior Statements or Inconsistencies with the Physical and Forensic Evidence”.

    The section lists 24 such witnesses. They include the following witnesses who admitted that part or all of their statements were false.

    (The DOJ’s numerical designations of the witnesses differs from the grand jury’s designations.)

    Witness 119 is a 15-year-old black male. He initially told SLCPD [Saint Louis County Police Department] that he witnessed the shooting. However, he later recanted, telling federal agents and prosecutors that he lied to SLCPD detectives and just wanted to be involved in the investigation. ….. Witness 119 seemed to claim that Wilson shot Brown in the side from out of the window of the SUV, possibly while he was still driving. Wilson then chased after Brown and ultimately shot him in the head while Brown had his hands in the air.

    Witness 125 is a 23-year-old black female. She initially told law enforcement that she witnessed the shooting, but later recanted, claiming that she wanted to be involved from the outset and therefore lied to investigators. …. [She said] that Brown’s arms were by his waist, followed by his hands going up … while Brown was kneeling.

    Witness 131 is a 22-year-old black male …. who first told SLCPD detectives and then FBI agents that she saw Wilson shoot Brown while he had his hands in the air, and then admitted to county prosecutors that she lied to law enforcement and did not, in fact, see anything.


    • mikesylwester says:

      Witness 122 is a 46-year old white male. … Witness 122 described Brown being shot in the back and “knew he had gotten hit.” … After learning about the autopsy [which showed no back wounds], he realized that Brown was not shot in the back and admittedly changed his account. …. Witness 122 described Brown as walking “dead on this feet, and then he just fell forward.” Later [Witness 122] admitted that [he] did not actually see Brown fall to the ground, because [his] view was obstructed by the corner of a building.

      Witness 130 is a 26-year-old white male. …. Contrary to his initial account, Witness 130 admitted that he did not actually see Brown fall to the ground because his view was obstructed by the corner of a building.

      Witness 132 is a 25-year-old black male. … Witness said that …. Brown “punched into the police car” because he was angry. In return, the police officer … reached down and shot Brown. Witness 132 explained that Brown tried to run, but again, the officer shot Brown right where he stood, about five feet from the SUV. Brown half-turned, fell to this knees, and put his hands up. The officer shot Brown eight or nine more times. This all occurred on the passenger side of the vehicle. …. Witness 132 refused to meet with federal prosecutors and told the FBI that the events of August 9, 2014, were “blurry,” he could not remember what happened, and he was starting a new chapter in his life.


    • mikesylwester says:

      Witness 126 is a 53-year-old black female. …. Witness 126 saw Brown on his knees with his hands up, as Wilson was coming toward him and shooting at him. Brown then fell face down to the ground. Wilson went over to him and … “finished him off.” … [Later] Witness 126 admitted that she initially lied. She stated that she never saw Wilson inflict gunshot wounds on Brown.

      Witness 128 is a 23-year-old black male … Brown appeared to get hit by four shots in the middle of his back. Brown “slowed up”and turned around …. Brown “threw his hands up, lean in the air.” …. Brown said, “Don’t kill me” … Wilson then fired two shots at “point blank range” from within two feet. ….. causing him to fall face down to the ground. … Wilson then stood over Brown and shot into his back …. [Later] Witness 128 said he may have hallucinated but could not offer more of an explanation. He also admitted that much of what he initially said was an assumption.

      Witness 140 is a 45-year-old white female. ….. Witness 140 also admitted to federal prosecutors that …. she posted comments on websites and Facebook about the shooting. Her comments were blatantly profane and racist. … Witness 140 acknowledged that she suffers from bouts of mania because she does not take her medicine for bipolar disorder ….

      Witness 120 was a 19-year-old black male. ….. He went to the window and saw Brown on his knees with his hands up, situated about five feet from the police vehicle. Brown said, “Please don’t shoot me,” and Wilson fired a shot into Brown’s head at “point blank” range. [Later Witness 120] explained that although he did not see the shots …. he based most of his recanted account on what people “in the community told” him.


      • mikesylwester says:

        Witness 128 …. clean (not “lean”) in the air.


      • Les says:

        I don’t want to support these people with the sweat of my brow. They aren’t worth the time taken from my life and the money taken from my family.

        Every time we don’t charge people for blatantly lying, we are supporting the lies. Charge them.


  20. Stormyeyes says:

    The best news is that charges against Mama Brown and family for assault in T-shirt gate may be moving forward


    • John Galt says:

      “According to the report, a group of about 20-30 suspects “jumped out of vehicles and rushed” Gordon, Tony Petty, and Matthew Cosey.”

      20 to 30 suspects = gang related


    • nivico says:

      “Additionally, prosecutors are mulling charges in the face of a Department of Justice probe that has concluded that Ferguson cops have engaged in a “pattern and practice” of discrimination against African-American citizens, whose rights have routinely been violated by members of the Missouri city’s predominantly white police force.”

      Ironic isn’t it… Mike Brown’s own grandmother could be the first casualty of the ‘wholesale changes’ Holder is demanding.

      Maybe he can bring those statisticians back to crunch the numbers and see how many minority victims will be disparately impacted by his requiring the Ferguson PD show more leniency towards minority offenders.


  21. kinthenorthwest says:

    Some Snippet from the stupid stuff out there
    Ferguson’s Conspiracy Against Black Citizens
    Despite the uncertainty surrounding the killing of Michael Brown, many black residents of Ferguson, Missouri, immediately thought that he was the victim of a wrongful death at the hands of police officer Darren Wilson, who shot him after a scuffle…..
    Ferguson officials repeatedly behaved as if their priority is not improving public safety or protecting the rights of residents, but maximizing the revenue that flows into city coffers, sometimes going so far as to anticipate decreasing sales tax revenues and urging the police force to make up for the shortfall by ticketing more people. Often, those tickets for minor offenses then turned into arrest warrants.


  22. Mr. Izz says:

    Looks like Michael Brown’s parents are going to go after Wilson anyway. I really wish there could be some retribution for what all of these people are doing.


    • doodahdaze says:

      Sebbledent time. The inshooence co’, will pay off even if the city and wilson do not want to. Wonder how much de fix is fo. How did Obobo fix it? Ya know he did.


    • Chip Bennett says:

      That might be the stupidest (and fastest) lawsuit in the history of frivolous lawsuits. All the respondents will need to do will be to submit the DOJ report as supporting evidence for their request for summary judgement.


      • nivico says:



      • John Galt says:

        ““Additionally, prosecutors are mulling charges in the face of a Department of Justice probe that has concluded that Ferguson cops have engaged in a “pattern and practice” of discrimination against African-American citizens”

        Ferguson just has to negotiate on an Iranian time frame and Obozo’s DOJ goes away in a couple years.


  23. pattyloo says:

    mikesylwester – thanks for posing those snippets as i didn’t have time to read the 86 page DOJ doc. does it actually say in the doc that the ‘hands up. don’t shoot’ was a lie? i was hoping to see that after reading the headline.


    • jason says:

      p. 8
      Although there are several individuals who have stated that Brown held his hands up in
      an unambiguous sign of surrender prior to Wilson shooting him dead, their accounts do not support a prosecution of Wilson. As detailed throughout this report, some of those accounts are inaccurate because they are inconsistent with the physical and forensic evidence; some of those accounts are materially inconsistent with that witness’s own prior statements with no explanation, credible for otherwise, as to why those accounts changed over time. Certain other witnesses who originally stated Brown had his hands up in surrender recanted their original accounts, admitting that they did not witness the shooting or parts of it, despite what they initially reported either to federal or local law enforcement or to the media. Prosecutors did not rely on those accounts when making a prosecutive decision

      While credible witnesses gave varying accounts of exactly what Brown was doing with
      his hands as he moved toward Wilson – i.e., balling them, holding them out, or pulling up his pants up – and varying accounts of how he was moving – i.e., “charging,” moving in “slow motion,” or “running” – they all establish that Brown was moving toward Wilson when Wilson shot him. Although some witnesses state that Brown held his hands up at shoulder level with his palms facing outward for a brief moment, these same witnesses describe Brown then dropping his hands and “charging” at Wilson


  24. fred says:

    I first saw this site during Trayvon and was amazed at the work and detail put into the truth. I followed all the ferguson debacle and again the evidence here was just amazing. I read something on this site every day now and wish there more like it. factual and polite. Thanks for all the work you put into this. Real dedication.


  25. Les says:

    Awesome summary (with pics!), sundance.

    Now who is going to pay for the damage done to Ferguson?

    And who murdered and tried to burn Deandre Joshua?


  26. Beginning on pg 75 is the tale of Witness 148 who did not come forward until FEBRUARY 2015. And still manages to get it wrong.


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