He’s Trolling Us Now – President Obama: Iran Won’t Develop Nuclear Weapons Because It’s “Contrary” To Islam…

(Via Media Equalizer) […] During a press conference with visiting German Chancellor Angela Merkel earlier today, the president indicated a deal with Tehran is possible because “according to their Supreme Leader, it would be contrary to their faith to obtain a nuclear weapon.”

Obama - KaboomOBAMA:  “The issues now are sufficiently narrowed and sufficiently clarified where we’re at a point where they need to make a decision. We are presenting to them in a unified fashion, the P5+1 supported by a coalition of countries around the world are presenting to them a deal that allows them to have peaceful nuclear power but gives us the absolute assurance that is verifiable that they are not pursuing a nuclear weapon”.

“And if in fact what they claim is true, which is they have no aspiration to get a nuclear weapon, that in fact, according to their Supreme Leader, it would be contrary to their faith to obtain a nuclear weapon, if that is true, there should be the possibility of getting a deal. They should be able to get to yes. But we don’t know if that’s going to happen”.

This follows four years of Obama saying one thing, and yet delivering an outcome totally divergent to what is claimed.

Here is a timeline of the Obama administration’s Iran policy, as the world’s most dangerous nation and leading state sponsor of terrorism moves inexorably towards acquiring the world’s most dangerous weapon.

“My expectation would be that if we can begin discussions soon, shortly after the Iranian elections, we should have a fairly good sense by the end of the year as to whether they are moving in the right direction.” President Obama, May 18, 2009, Washington, D.C.

“The opportunity will not remain open indefinitely.” Secretary Clinton, July 15, 2009, Washington, D.C.

“We are not going to keep the window open forever.” Secretary Clinton, July 22, 2009, Bangkok, Thailand.#more#

“The Iranians may simply try to run out the clock.” Defense Secretary Robert Gates, July 27, 2009.

“Our patience is not infinite. We’re not willing to let this go on forever.” State Department spokesman Ian Kelly, September 14, 2009, Washington, D.C.

“If Iran does not take steps in the near future to live up to its obligations, then the United States will not continue to negotiate indefinitely. . . . Our patience is not unlimited.” President Obama, October 1, 2009, Washington, D.C.

“We are in what we hope is an intensive diplomatic phase now. It will not be open-ended.” Senior U.S. official, October 1, 2009, Geneva, Switzerland.

“I don’t think that there’s a hard-and-fast deadline. . . .What we have said all along is that this is not an open-ended process, we are not in this just to talk for talk’s sake. . . . We expect prompt, concrete steps to be taken over the next couple of weeks.” State department spokesman Kelly, October 2, 2009, Washington, D.C.

“We are running out of time” President Obama, November 15, 2009, Shanghai, China.

“Time is running out for Iran to address the international community’s growing concerns about its nuclear program.” Press Secretary Gibbs, November 29, 2009, Washington, D.C.

“Iran has to live up to its international obligations. . . . The president has said that our patience is not unlimited.” State Deptartment spokesman Kelly, November 30, 2009, Washington, D.C.

“The window is closing.” National Security adviser Jim Jones, December 2, 2009, Washington, D.C.

“Iran’s nuclear program . . . there was going to be a time limit . . .” President Obama, March 30, 2010, Washington, D.C.

“We’ve said to the Iranians all along . . . we still remain open to diplomacy. But it’s been very clear that the Iranians don’t want to engage with us.” Secretary Hillary Clinton, September 19, 2010.

“We want to see the Iranians engage, and as you know, we have attempted to bring about that engagement over the course of the last three-plus years. It has not proven effective.” Secretary Hillary Clinton, December 12, 2011, Washington, D.C.

“To resolve this issue will require Iran to come to the table and discuss in a clear and forthright way how to prove to the international community that the intentions of their nuclear program are peaceful. . . . The question is going to be whether in these discussions they show themselves moving clearly in that direction.” President Obama, March 6, 2012, Washington, D.C.

“That window is closing.” President Obama, March 25, 2012, Seoul, Republic of Korea.

“Time is short.” President Obama, March 26, 2102, Seoul, Republic of Korea,

“Iran’s window of opportunity . . . will not remain open forever.” Secretary Clinton, March 31, 2012, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.

”They assert that their program is purely peaceful. . . . We want them to demonstrate clearly in the actions they propose that they have truly abandoned any nuclear weapons ambition.” Secretary Clinton, April 12, 2012, Washington, D.C.

”That window is closing. . . . Now, the clock is ticking. . . . We’re not going to have these talks just drag out in a stalling process. . . . We haven’t given away anything — other than the opportunity for us to negotiate ” President Obama, April 15, 2012, Cartagena, Columbia.

“We will not engage in an endless process of negotiations.” U.N. ambassador Susan Rice, September 20, 2012, New York.

“Iran . . . has failed to take the opportunity to demonstrate that its nuclear program is peaceful . . . time is not unlimited.” President Obama, September 25, 2012, New York.

• “When it comes to preventing Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon, I will take no options off the table. … That includes all elements of American power: a political effort aimed at isolating Iran, a diplomatic effort to sustain our coalition and ensure that the Iranian program is monitored, an economic effort that imposes crippling sanctions and, yes, a military effort to be prepared for any contingency.” — Speech to pro-Israel lobbying group AIPAC, March 4, 2012.

• “The United States will do what we must to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.” — Speech to United Nations, Sept. 25, 2012.

Then LAST August, just before heading off to his vacation on Martha’s vineyard:

[…] On Iran, the president said the chance that American efforts to strike a deal on nuclear weapons is “a little less than 50-50,” in part because some Islamic leaders may fear such a pact would loosen their grip on power.

“That may prevent us from getting a deal done,” Mr. Obama said. “It is there to be had. Whether ultimately Iran can seize that opportunity — we will have to wait and see, but it is not for lack of trying on our part.”

(full article link)

It’s not for lack of “trying”….

Oh well, we tried:

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96 Responses to He’s Trolling Us Now – President Obama: Iran Won’t Develop Nuclear Weapons Because It’s “Contrary” To Islam…

  1. John Galt says:

    Somebody needs to tell Obozo about Pakistan’s nuclear weapons.

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    • rashomon says:

      He was golfing during that briefing.

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    • doodahdaze says:

      Maybe they are not islamic. I think the new high grade choom is making it hard for him to maintain.

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    • cohibadad says:

      According to the quote above, he said Nukes are contrary to their “faith”. He didn’t say Islam. Pakistan is Sunni. Iran is Shia. Different ideologies, sects or faiths. Though I’m not sure how it is contrary to their faith. Weapons of mass destruction like nukes weren’t around when their ideology was established so anything they interpret as being contrary could be reinterpreted later as not being contrary.

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    • James F says:

      So he is saying pakis are not real muslims now? They don’t take kindly to being called “infidels”…or maybe they know Obama’s lies are acceptable under taqiyya and will just play along.

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  2. MaryfromMarin says:

    His “the earth is flat” pronouncement should come at any moment now.

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  3. If… if only travel time existed and we could send some of these aberrations back to 2008, election cycle. . .

    This lying pig wouldn’t have dared to say anything like this then.

    Even now, the tolerance of – forget the right – of what used to be center-left for these astonishing idiocies emanated from the gutter of the loony left is unbelievable, besides being irresponsible.

    One of the most pernicious legacies of this uniquely fishy administration will be that types of discourses which would have been simply unthinkable from ANY president, R or D, became thinkable, possible, somehow tolerable.

    It’s extremely upsetting. Pardon my emotional language but we didn’t even begin to extract the “benefits” of the plethora of treasonous initiatives of these gangsters.

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  4. bob e says:

    when does this stop .. and who stops it ??

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  5. dekare says:

    The twelfth imam will be so disappointed to hear that.

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  6. TexasRanger says:

    Barack Hussein Obama may be able to dupe the Blacks, Muslims and Democrats with his BS but, I think he is considered an imbecile by many world leaders that can easily discern his BS for what it really is.

    Other World Leaders are scared of Obama because they know what I know – he is a dangerous imbecile in a position of power.

    Barack Hussein Obama is like a monkey with a straight razor running around on the lose.

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  7. Sharon says:

    Huh? So why do they need to be talked out of building them?

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    • pspsst says:

      That’s so unfair. Barry is a visionary trapped in a skin color. He knows stuff. It takes him umpteen tries before he can sink a basketball in a net. This time, he’s got it right. Give him a break. Oops wait, the ball just dunked an Imam on the head.

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  8. pspsst says:

    Yes, master…….. (Glazed look in eyes)

    What a dumptkoff.

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  9. MaryfromMarin says:

    This is his midterm presentation for “Taqiyya 599”.

    The final will be beyond imagining.

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    • TKim says:

      When Jimmy Carter was in office, merrily screwing the country up from coast to coast,my grandfather used to say,”They sent a boy to do a man’s job.”

      Carter was inept. Obama is dangerous. I know exactly what my grandfather would call him. Biblical condemnation, not racial.

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  10. Well, well, well. What do we have here? This is The Great Tell. This is the reason he would NEVER say/speak/refer to “Radical Islam”. That is the single thing that could keep Iran from ever developing/having nuclear weapons. This is the ultimate gift to his “Brothers”, including the ones in the Muslim Brotherhood, to whom he’s pretty much already handed over our Republic.

    If he had been truthful, he would also have had to necessarily confront Iran’s involvement in terror and the fact that they most want to establish a World Caliphate, secondly to eliminate Israel, and thirdly to eliminate all but the Sunni sects of Islam. He is exactly in the position to gift Iran with a clear path to do so on all counts, and run interference with the rest of the world to enable Iran’s true WMD capability on so large a scale. Historically, his legacy will be that Barack Hussein Obama was the one that removed the final barriers to a World Caliphate, and I’m pretty sure he’s good with that.

    He can deny that Iran has any of those goals because, after all, Islam IS the religion of peace. I wish someone would ask him what he thinks of Sharia law. Couldn’t, wouldn’t, shouldn’t think or mischaracterize Iran or accuse them of wanting to develop a nuclear weapon. It just isn’t possible, you see. Because Islam is the religion of peace, you know.

    I could spit nails. I’m sure what I’ve written is a major duh for most of us (not to mention the point of Sundance’s post, lol), but for him to lie SO BLATANTLY about it… sheesh…. Just when you think you’ve seen the limit of their lack of integrity they pull another one of these ratcheting up the ante shots. I’m thinking a lot these days it’s way, way past time…

    I wonder what other world leaders really think of him. Bet they’re not really shocked, either.

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    • cohibadad says:

      I’m trying to understand how it is that Iran could establish a World Caliphate. It’s easy to understand how ISIS does it. They just declare it. That’s how Sunni Islam works since their first self-declared Caliph, Abu Bakr. But with Iran it is different, that’s why they don’t have a Caliph right now, even though they could have claimed so since the ouster of the Shah and the return of Khomeini. I’m not sure what the basis is for them saying Nukes are against their religion, but it’s easy to see why Iran, 12er Shia, doesn’t have a Caliph. Their ideology is based on the belief that the self-declared Caliph Abu Bakr is illegitimate and that there is a succession passed from one man to the next for who is the “representative” of God on earth. In their ideology, the 12th Imam, the 12th in a continuous series of fathers to sons from Ali bin Abu Talib to his son and on and on until Imam Mahdi, Muhammad ibn Hasan al-Mahdī, born in 869. He is the only person who can be a Caliph in their ideology. Just him. That’s quite a difficult thing. Kind of hard to just fabricate a guy that the Iranians, let alone the 90% non-Shia Muslims in the world who don’t even believe Muhammad ibn Hasan al-Mahdī existed let alone is the Imam Mahdi mentioned in their religious books, would accept as a Caliph. That’s why “The Islamic Republic of Iran” is essentially a stewardship, with a steward ruler, awaiting a man born 1150 years ago to reappear and assume leadership.

      So I’m not disputing the lies, terrorism, danger to the world, but it won’t happen through a Calipha, unless an 1150 year old Imam Mahdi shows up suddenly, and who could believe in that?

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      • This link will explain a lot of why I believe what I do. I poured over Mahmoud Ahmedinijad’s two speeches to the UN initially because I was struck by the fact that in both speeches he addressed the body speaking of GOD, and how worship of GOD was universal, and that we all worshiped the SAME God. (He spoke extensively of the 12th Imam belief and other research led me to my conviction.) Rosenberg discusses one of these speeches with links to web articles that came to the same conclusion he did: as a believer in the 12th Imam, he believed the Islamic End Times would come soon and the 12th Imam would be head of the new World Caliphate

        https://flashtrafficblog.wordpress.com/2012/09/26/exclusive-ahmadinejad-gives-most-detailed-explanation-of-twelfth-imam-to-date-says-mahdi-will-soon-reign-over-whole-world/

        From his 2012 UN speech:
        An order was needed in which man was recognized as God’s Supreme Creature, enjoying material and spiritual qualities and possessing a pure and divine nature filled with a desire to seek justice and truth. Together, the world needed to place its trust in God and stand against the “acquisitive minority” with all its might. – See more at: http://gadebate.un.org/67/iran-islamic-republic#sthash.n202j7s4.dpuf

        He adheres to Wahabbi sect of Islam, and it it currently outlawed in Iran. He was voted in as president with 63% of the popular vote, but as Iran moved toward nuclear capability, it became obvious that such a radical view of Islam by the world would be an impediment to their nuclear attainment. Appearing as a more moderate and modern country on the world stage would be more advantageous. Remember, in Islam, it’s ok to lie if it serves to advance Islam. The fact of the matter is that Ali Larrijani, who is now the head of the Iranian parliament, is also a Wahabbist. He has said his ideology is no different than Ahmedinijad but their was only a difference of style. That says a LOT, because it’s difficult to remember how radical Ahmedinijad was and is. Larijani was a commander of the Revolutionary Guard and his career has encompassed such positions as you would expect if you were the philosophical director of a country’s future. It was Iran’s outreach that turned Turkey from being an ally to the West to being the west-hating orthodox Islamic state it has become. I studied that process as it was happening. It’s also the same process that brought radical islam and jihadists to first Myanmar then other SE Asia countries.

        What is key about Larijani is that he was also Secretary of Supreme National Security Council and also became the chief negotiator, therefor the architect of Iran’s Nuclear Program. PLEASE read this man’s biography in Wikipedia; it will show how extensive his influence in Iran has been. It’s an excellent source to learn for current underpinnings that reflect the reality rather than the PR of Iran. It’s much the same as the reality we deal with here in the current US vs the deceptive PR the Obama Administration spews.
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Larijani

        Iran was, for some time, the leading country in State Sponsored Terrorism, and they have militarily influenced virtually all conflict in the ME. Before ISIS came along, Iran’s influence toward causing disruption and sway of the political constructs of the Middle East was the most destructive to democracy and the modernization of that region. While Saudi Arabia (suspected of sponsoring 9/11) is known primarily for adherence to Wahabbiism, I believe this is equal to the difference between snake-handling and the Episcopalian varieties of Christianity in that they are versions of Islam and are far more united in that umbrella than tolerating infidels or apostates. See the Amman Message.

        The idea that there won’t be ultimately a conflict of the primary contestants for the seat of the World Caliphate – whether Iran, Syria, Quatar or Saudi Arabia would be foolish. (It’s ultimately like asking what order supporters will get thrown under Obama’s bus first, the Union, the Blacks, or white liberals because ultimately he’s a Muslim Marxist – and I’m not convinced he’s not using the Socialist foot soldiers aptly for a goal they don’t suspect.) They just aren’t that far along yet, just like Obama has made advances in leaps and bounds in destroying this country, the pro-Caliphate believers are making lightning speed advances. Iran can’t afford the ISIS advances because ISIS even threatens Iran’s plans. I think the animalistic tendencies of ISIS even intimidates Iran, who are using just the polar opposite approach to attain their version of a new World Caliphate or world supremacy.

        Ok, that was rambling again, but the questions you posed, Cohabidad, called for this extensive a response. If you want more information, let’s move this to the Daily Thread and I’ll dig up a crapload of links. Modern history of the last 25 years isn’t something I can really be succinct with. Too many players, too much networking.

        I’d like to see any input other Treepers have on the idea of a World Caliphate, as well.

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        • pspsst says:

          See Haoleboy’s comment to yours below 🙂 I was lucky I was here to catch it and read

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        • cohibadad says:

          Thanks for such an indepth response. I only have a couple short points. You said Ahmedinijad and Larrijani are Wahhabis. I’ve never seen that before and when I searched I couldn’t find anything. I agree that Iran wants a Caliphate, but as I explained, it is practically impossible for them to achieve it unless they convince the Shia that their candidate is 1150 years old. The divisions between Shia and Sunni are deeper than most understand. There is no reconciliation possible for them without destroying both of their ideologies.

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          • I’m glad you stayed with questioning me about the Wahabbi assignation of Ahmedinijad and Larijai as belonging to that sect. I did further research: you are correct, and I thank you for the opportunity to get that straight in my mind. As I said, it was some time ago; I apparently confused the two and focused my attention elsewhere for the current purposes. My apologies for the error, and my gratitude for the clarification. It is quite important as it does define the ideological differences between the sects in in Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Iraq.

            You are right, of course, about the fierce vehemence in the Shia/Sunni conflict. I don’t, however think it’s necessary that any swaying of ideology is necessary for an overall re-establishment of a World Caliphate. Lest I get too deep into an explication of my reasoning (which I am aware many find tedious, but my mind requires) I offer you these points:

            When all Islam relied primarily on the hadiths, dealing with the succession of the legacy of Mohammed, things were still debated and war between the sects was then seen as an “all the marbles” proposition, but the conflict was contained within Islam. This allowed peaceful co-existance between Islam and other faiths as the dispute did not involve, for example, westernized Christians. For the sake of this post, I will leave the Jewish argument out. I am also disregarding wars involving invasion from non-Muslim countries

            Things have, however, changed considerably because there is now a schism of a different sort within Islam. The Abode of War, from which springs Radical Islam, is driven primarily by the use of the Quran as an instruction for war and justification thereof, moving the Hadiths to a lesser directive. This effectively negates the historical unity of sects. With this shift as validation of aggression, the Shia have changed the base differences from a religious difference to* identity politics*. It is most concisely a chicken and egg argument when considering Shiite aggression, but the outcome is that Quranic directive as perceived serves as a directive to conquering all people of the world, or vanquishing them. [Heh. Think Progressives/marxists vs Constitutional Conservatives vis-a-vie Power.

            There is a massive difference between what is viewed the “Abode of War” and the “Abode of Islam”. I perceive the Abode of Islam to be those Muslims who adhere to a more peaceful and tolerant version of Islam (what we might call moderate Muslims and consider jihad to be an internal war against good and evil). The Abode of War can be seen to be the primary mover of the violent creation of a Wold Caliphate. There is great distinction in the two, obviously. When all Islam relied primarily on the hadiths, dealing with the succession of the legacy of Mohammed, things were still debated and violence would still break out short of all-out war.

            Today the advancement of the “Abode of War”, as identity politics, is willing to use brute force to attain their goals. Iran, as a state sponsor of global terrorism has long played the military card. Their early affiliation with Al-Queda, can be seen as the new era of terrorism. Their enemies include not only the west, but non-militaristic (due to their moderation, militant as a defensive action) Islamic sects.

            Might makes right. To the victor go the spoils. Those more concerned with the focus of rebellious Supremacy can subdue quite easily than those who consider themselves to be choosing the “moral high ground” simply because of the limits to which Goodness is willing go to resist Evil. Civilized cultures vs. War Lord cultures. This is why civilized countries historically, traditionally respected and valued a Warrior Class – which today has been decimated both by the Progressive left and the Muslim-leaning POSPOTUS. That’s why the West lacks the will to do what must be done to stop ISIS/Iran/Syria, etc.

            I hope that sufficiently answers your question. If we continue this, I’d like to move it to a daily thread, if you don’t mind. This is a very timely conversation. There are far more implications in all this than the Sunni/Shia differences.

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  11. angie says:

    Is Obama a real person or a ventriloquist’s dummy? Seriously, this guy is the POTUS and he says something that stupid.
    If Iran was building nuclear weapons to use on devout Muslims, that is against Islam. Everyone else is fodder. BO needs to brush up on his Koran.

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    • Haoleboy says:

      @PATTERNPUZZELER @

      Really well informed post. My only comment is that Wahabbiism is motivated to massive world wide conflict which in turn brings the 12th forward. The rest, Calphate, etc. Is then established by this Allah favored leader.

      I only point this out as it is hard for us westerners to understand that they are not interested in conquest, but rather, chaos. The belief is that the sooner it happens the sooner the Mahdi appears. Around that time also appears one known to them as ‘Isa who claims to be Jesus but is not the Son of God; however he pretends to be the return of Christianity’s Jesus. This false Messiah will cause millions to fall from Christianity by teaching that he never meant to be called the son of God as he aligns with Islam.

      Obama, to give him the benefit of the doubt is clueless, if not clueless, then he is also a warrior for the Mahdi. I personally now operate on the Assumption he is for the return of the Mahdi and does anything he can to bring more chaos. I’m sure I don’t have to list the examples for you, I simply ask why every leader who was aligned with us didn’t get help and those against us did ? Arab Spring is really more like Winter nearing the end if you ask me. I let the chaos of today speak for me.

      I lived in SE Iran a while and ran when the Shah Pahlavi went down. The fanaticism displayed in their fundamentalism makes any Jesus Freak in America show as very mild.
      One can imagine what the Mahdi will rabble up.

      I don’t know all the ins and outs, but it goes something like this : The Enemy of my God YHWH is coming out of his hole soon and will be welcomed by most of Islam. Those who believe the two -Jehovah and Allah – are the same are unfortunatly sadly misinformed. Any of both faiths who believe that would do well to go back and read of the hatred generated when Abraham sent his his wife’s servant, and his biological son with her, away and banished them from his people. They are the legendary “Wild ass of a man whose hand will be against every man and every man against him ” a patriarch of many peoples and nations.

      Now I ramble as old men do. I simply meant to compliment your post.

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      • Thank you Haoleboy. If you are so inclined, my new post above in response to Cohabidad may be of interest to you. I left out the chaos to bring the mahdi part, but you may be interested in what, for most, is a novel take.

        I have a dear friend to was married to an Iranian man and she taught at the University there before the revolution. She lost her husband then and also fled Iran. All of that has led her to being an international worker in training local healthcare systems how to deal with traumatized populace. It has been some time since she has returned to the Middle East. She still wears her wedding ring these many years since, and she still grieves, as well, for the Iran she once knew.

        What a shame that you also had to leave Iran; I understand it to have been a place of exceptional beauty with much of the feel of traditional Persia.

        We are agreed on the outcome of this mess and the determination of the terrorists. A shame we cannot be an old man and an old woman over a cup of coffee in a diner yearning for the old days, in which the world made sense. Be safe.

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  12. georgiafl says:

    Obama’s credibility/veracity rating is .00000000000000000001

    Obama’s lie/perfidy/corruption/spitefulness rating is 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

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  13. F.D.R. in Hell says:

    I think the US should simply give them a nuclear bomb.
    Hey, Eleanor…fire up the Enola Gay! 👿

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    • JohnP says:

      Shouldn’t that be, “Hey, Bess…..fire up the Enola Gay!”

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    • polk8dot says:

      Oh, that was gooooood..
      And since Barry is clearly not an American, with zero clue about our history, geography and laws, on top of being just a full of crap, poorly educated moron, it is quite possible he’d never get the historical reference. I think you just devised the most poetic justice solution to the problem he’s fostered and let grow into a monster that now threatens not just us and Israel, but basically all civilization. You, Sir, are an evil genius. 😉 ———–>>>>>>>>> Iran – be careful what you wish for. ————->>>>>>> You may just get it.

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  14. TKim says:

    As various factions of radical Islam kidnap, torture, rape, behead, burn alive, bury alive, crucify, flog, blow up, shoot, stab, and desecrate the corpses of other human beings, we can rest assured that since the Koran forbids such barbarism, these thugs are not Muslim.

    Since the POTUS’s prayer breakfast speech it may well be fair to assume that they are remnants of the Crusades. Or groups of really out here Baptists, right? (I have to say that, as a Baptist, if one of our members took a hard line on the knockout game and tweeted it about using scripture to condemn it, the POTUS would call him a racist hiding behind the Bible. Islamists don’t kill, American opinions do).

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  15. archer52 says:

    I tried to post this, but it didn’t take? I’ll try again.—

    Up until lately, I’ve been confused as you. I was able to find an essay, written by a veteran foreign policy expert that explains all of this. I did a post on my blog about it and linked the original article.

    http://truthandcommonsense.com/2015/02/09/the-next-time-a-confused-person-talks-about-why-obama-is-favoring-iran-hand-them-this/

    Please take the time to read both that essay and the one on “transnational progressivism” provided. Combine the two, add Obama’s history of anti-colonialism, and you have it.

    In short, there was a policy project submitted by some people, including James Baker I believe, that outlined a way to get out of the Middle East. Obama and his ilk want out of there and Europe (as my Mensa bright buddy pointed out a while back). They believe the U.S. has done enough and want to pivot to the Far East where most of the people live and the economies are growing.

    The way to get out was to leave a nation in charge. They picked Iran. They want Iran to control the region. Which is why the Saudis are losing their minds with Obama. This path will lead to regional war, both militarily and economically. Obviously, any theocracy with a nuke, that believes total war brings back Islamic dominance, will launch that nuke. Israel has over two hundred, and has promised if they get hit, everybody burns.

    If Iran gets control of Iraq’s oil, it will be the fifth largest producer according to some reports. With Iran being an ally of Russia, and the handler of the proxy state Syria and Hamas, the ayatollahs will control and surround Saudi Arabia and Israel, two nations Obama couldn’t give a hoot less about.

    Using this policy, Obama succeeds in completing his father and grandfather’s wish- to undo the imposed borders identifying the nations in the Middle East. Biden telegraphed that several years ago when he said we should let Iraq go back to the three tribal borders it was carved out of. Now, it sounds good in a Harvard classroom, but it ignores the thousand years of war and atrocities those tribal conflicts created since 600 A.D.

    Regardless, that war is on, the Iranian backed militias are already attacking and killing and torturing Sunni citizens in Iraq, just as the ISIS are doing it to the Shia and others. ISIS is the mad dog someone let off the lease and it is now biting everyone.

    As to transnational progressivism- which is what identifies Bill Gates, Soros, Merkel, Blair, the EU, Davos and the rest- this movement fits into the theory that since we are a global world, the need for nations and the dreaded “nationalism” of citizens identifying themselves with their own nation is past. They want to turn us all into international government feeding batteries, ala the Matrix, with them in charge of course.

    Also, FYI, they aren’t sure it will work, which is why many of the uber rich are buying remote locations in order to flee to and ride out the coming civil unrest- caused by their meddling.

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  16. …because a guy called “Supreme Leader” is so trustworthy. Not building nukes?? North Korea is building the ICMBs for them for crying out loud! This is a country that has proclaimed they want to wipe “Israel off the map”. Our closest ally.

    Guess I better brush up on my “Duck and cover” drills. Maybe I’ll go get some plastic and duct tape while I’m at it, too.

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  17. Paul H. Lemmen says:

    Reblogged this on A Conservative Christian Man and commented:
    Only an Obama worshipper would swallow this obvious lie.

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  18. joshua says:

    The Obama understanding of reality:
    “God didn’t make little green apples
    And it don’t rain in Indianapolis in the summertime
    And there’s no such thing as Doctor Seuss
    Or Disneyland, and Mother Goose, no nursery rhyme”

    World wide policy as formulated by a choom gang kid former South Chicago Community Organier who married poorly and loves to waste money and reacts with petty thin skinned narcissistic ego everytime something Displeases Him.

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  19. Be Ge says:

    Now that the world has been given a fresh (Ukrainian, that is) lesson in vanity and voidness of all and any “security assurances” or “safety guarantees” — which plain and simply put, are worth about the value of the paper they are printed on — “official” teachings of Grand Ayatollah Khamenei have been updated. Yes, blowing the whole world the a chain of H-bombings is unislamic and lahalal/haram (sorta analogous to lokosher/treif in Hebrew) , but studying and development of nukes is not. Apparently, neither (this is not explicitly stated in the interview where buy the Supreme Leader talks about the topic) is their “limited local use” or threats of such a use, esp. in the context of a “defensive jihad”. Hey, remember — there is no “pope” or “patriarch” in Islam and anyone can claim anything 🙂 The jihadists and “bitter clingers” are currently winning big time (and so should we, bitter clingers for our conservative values, religion and freedoms). I am hoping for some sort of Martin Luther like figure in modern Islam — maybe someone like general Al Sisi can come up with an idea of the sort…

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  20. mcfyre2012 says:

    So the Quran/Koran says that non-believers are to be converted to Islam. If they do not convert, they are to be enslaved or killed.

    A nuclear weapon can cause a lot of conversions…or eliminate a lot of non-believers. Umm…so how is a nuclear weapon contrary to Islam in the mind of an extremist, or a typical Islamist?

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    • lovelyd24 says:

      I know that your question is rhetorical but I’d like to answer it anyhow.

      Umm…so how is a nuclear weapon contrary to Islam in the mind of an extremist, or a typical Islamist?

      It is not, but, the Supreme Leader of Iran said it, so Obama expects the world to believe it. This is all smoke and mirrors. Obama showed his hand long before he was elected the first time, and he continues on the path of “fundamentally transforming America” as the world stands with it’s mouth agape.

      I believe Obama thinks he knows what he is doing but when the world is transformed he will be very surprised to find out his place in the alligators plans.

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    • Haoleboy says:

      And now , by some imam’s decree , it is ok to blow up believers along with the infidel, so if some in America are converted, it is still ok to blow the whole place away, cuz the believer will go to Allah as a martyr. Cool huh ?

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  21. Sal Paradise says:

    A bad checkers player at a chess tournament….

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  22. czarowniczy says:

    Listening with rapt attention for the POtuS’s pronouncement on if Iran’s chemical and biological programs, to aspects of the Iranian triad largely ignored, are against Islam also. My bitter clinger opinion of Koranic teachings has been that when it comes to doing the dirty to non-Islamites everything was fair, there were and are no rules or prohibitions and destroying Israel by any means necessary was a holy duty. Then again, I listen to Fox too much, right Barry?

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  23. taqiyyologist says:

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  24. A blast from the past – June 04, 2008

    “Before I begin, I want to say that I know some provocative e-mails have been circulating throughout Jewish communities across the country. A few of you may have gotten them. They’re filled with tall tales and dire warnings about a certain candidate for president. And all I want to say is — let me know if you see this guy named Barack Obama, because he sounds pretty frightening.

    But if anyone has been confused by these e-mails, I want you to know that today I’ll be speaking from my heart, and as a true friend of Israel. And I know that when I visit with AIPAC, I am among friends. Good friends. Friends who share my strong commitment to make sure that the bond between the United States and Israel is unbreakable today, tomorrow and forever.

    One of the many things that I admire about AIPAC is that you fight for this common cause from the bottom up. The lifeblood of AIPAC is here in this room — grass-roots activists of all ages, from all parts of the country, who come to Washington year after year to make your voices heard. Nothing reflects the face of AIPAC more than the 1,200 students who have traveled here to make it clear to the world that the bond between Israel and the United States is rooted in more than our shared national interests — it’s rooted in the shared values and shared stories of our people. And as president, I will work with you to ensure that this bond is strengthened. […]

    It was just a few years after the liberation of the camps that David Ben-Gurion declared the founding of the Jewish State of Israel. We know that the establishment of Israel was just and necessary, rooted in centuries of struggle and decades of patient work. But 60 years later, we know that we cannot relent, we cannot yield, and as president I will never compromise when it comes to Israel’s security.

    Not when there are still voices that deny the Holocaust. Not when there are terrorist groups and political leaders committed to Israel’s destruction. Not when there are maps across the Middle East that don’t even acknowledge Israel’s existence, and government-funded textbooks filled with hatred toward Jews. Not when there are rockets raining down on Sderot, and Israeli children have to take a deep breath and summon uncommon courage every time they board a bus or walk to school.

    I have long understood Israel’s quest for peace and need for security. […………… I spare you the rest]

    Barack Obama, 6/4/2008, in a speech to AIPAC

    When Joe Wilson told this piece of…. [sorry I don’t want to insult our honorable friends in sh**t, the E Coli family] “YOU LIE” he was way too much of a gentleman and an understater.

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    • And yet, with your indulgence, at least a few more excerpts from the same need be recalled:

      “Our alliance is based on shared interests and shared values. Those who threaten Israel threaten us. Israel has always faced these threats on the front lines. And I will bring to the White House an unshakeable commitment to Israel’s security. That starts with ensuring Israel’s qualitative military advantage. I will ensure that Israel can defend itself from any threat — from Gaza to Tehran. […]
      The Iranian regime supports violent extremists and challenges us across the region. It pursues a nuclear capability that could spark a dangerous arms race and raise the prospect of a transfer of nuclear know-how to terrorists. Its president denies the Holocaust and threatens to wipe Israel off the map. The danger from Iran is grave, it is real, and my goal will be to eliminate this threat. […]
      We will also use all elements of American power to pressure Iran. I will do everything in my power to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. That starts with aggressive, principled diplomacy without self-defeating preconditions, but with a cleareyed understanding of our interests. We have no time to waste. We cannot unconditionally rule out an approach that could prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. We have tried limited, piecemeal talks while we outsource the sustained work to our European allies. It is time for the United States to lead. […]”

      How do you know B.ody O.dor is lying? His lips are moving.

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    • czarowniczy says:

      Go to the Library and see if they have a copy of Meir Kahane’s ‘Never Again’. It’s an oldie, some 40 years old, but the threat to American Jews as outlined in it have not changed – they’ve become more of an open threat as I see it. Read a few chapters and see if the image of Barack Hussein Obama II doesn’t slither into your conscious, mote the anti-Jew than the anti-Christ, though he does seem to be able to multitask.
      The POtuS’s dual dreams of destroying Israel as a state and the US as a power, never mind a super power, seem to have been delayed by a larger than expected number of Americans saying ‘WTF’s going on here?” and digging in. It will be interesting to watch him writhe during his remaining years and see if the rest of his anti-US, anti-white, anti-non-revisionist-Christian mask drops and the true slimeball that lies beneath emerges.

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    • Simply nauseating. Thank you for that quote. It’s going into my Evernote file.

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  25. Truthseeker says:

    Story on Jessica death in USA Today. Store clerk has gone into hiding, if he is innocent & has nothing to fear why hide?
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/02/10/store-clerk-in-exile-as-miss-town-deals-with-fears/23159311/

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  26. JohnP says:

    Jordan’s King Abdullah II on Tuesday in the capital of Oman and Bahrain’s King Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa announced, “The war on terrorism and extremism is a war to protect the religion of Islam and its principles of tolerance and moderate teachings from the brutal and criminal acts that characterize Daash terrorist gang, and that the international community more united to fight and defeat and eliminate them.”

    http://ninanews.com/Website/

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  27. polk8dot says:

    This is but only the most recent in the unending string of unmitigated disasters our Gutless Wonder the Usurper has brought onto all our heads. Once an intelligent, thinking, resolute person gets over the disbelief of the idiocy, and so inherent in our human psyche the denial of the evil permeating everything he touches, there is but one conclusion to be arrived at.
    When we stop looking at the Traitor through the prism of our own national and human values, when we let go of the ever present yet in this case stupefying requirements and limitations on our thinking set by logic, education and life experiences, but one valid explanation remains for all the treasonous, vindictive, evil undertakings of the Monster in the White House.

    Obama’s sole concern is with creating his own LEGACY.
    His whole ‘presidency’ i.e. the grand theft of the highest office in the land, is geared towards and focused not primarily but exclusively on his own aims, goals and potential achievements. This greatest Narcissist ever admitted and allowed to occupy the seat of American power, has from day one been doing nothing but staunchly building a monument to himself, regardless what the consequences of his actions, and even worse, inaction, might be.
    From that point of view, it is easy to then look at the totality of his ‘achievements’ that have been forced upon this nation, against the law, against good judgment and against our hopes and needs, and see how peripheral and inconsequential we, the country and the nation are to Obama’s great scheme.
    Alas, there are only so many problems in the world which he can try to claim to have fixed, and thence comes the urgent need to create more and more artificial ones he can then declare to have mastered for all our good. Thus the never-ending panoply of all his ‘wars on…..’, all the ‘struggles against….’, all the ‘greatest crises of or time…..’.

    With each subsequent crisis he creates in order to bestow upon himself the laurel crown of The Great Savior, he inexorably and irreparably destroys pieces of not just our national fabric, but also gleefully and with reckless abandon unspools the threads weaved into the global co-existence.
    He will never be satisfied with the extent of his evil works, because to him there is always another possibility for self aggrandizement sprouting from the shadows of destruction brought on by his involvement.

    I used to rack my brain for years trying to make sense of the disaster unfurling before us. Trying to comprehend the level of hate, spite, selfishness demonstrated in every word and deed of the Impostor, trying to assign varying and divergent motivations and excuses to his seeming ineptness, idiocy, cluelessness, laziness, and utter irresponsibility.
    But, in truth I have now been seeing as plainly as if it were written in stone, the task presents no solution, lends itself to no understanding. Looking at the totality of Barack Obama’s Monstrous Imperial Presidency one conclusion saves my sanity though it murders my spirit – there is Only One person who matters to him. There is only One Aim that guides him.
    The Legacy of Barack Obama. No matter the cost. No matter how empty, made up, and truly non -existent the reality of it, each of these decisions is another stone he adds to his own Living Monument.
    And if we all have to burn on the altar of his Narcissism – so be it. No sacrifice extracted from others is too small or too grand in pursuit of the Savior’s self-coronation.
    If the whole world has to burn – so be it. It’s only fair. How else are we to show our gratitude for being allowed to watch the Miracle Worker in word and deed? The greater the fire, the greater the enduring glory for the future Emperor of the World, Barry Narcissus Obama.

    I believe it is time for the world to start up quaking in fear of what this Evil still has in store for us. There is no stopping someone who is willing to destroy everything and everyone.
    Our only surviving hope is that somehow, someway, he is made to give the same sacrifice of himself. Preferably, before it is too late, and the Earth is burned to a crisp on his altar.

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    • pattyloo says:

      i don’t think he cares about his legacy that much. i think his laziness and greed prevent him from worrying about anything beyond the next golf game, drug fix, and big $$ book deal or fundraiser that he skims the cream from.

      he’s ignorant about most current & historic global situations (i don’t even think he knows who our allies are). His knowledge of world current events is similar to an Obama voter’s knowledge of the Constitution. “Legacy” sounds like another word his teleprompter tells him to say, but he doesn’t even know the meaning of.

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      • polk8dot says:

        Agree on basically all your points. We diverge on the conclusion, though.
        I never said Obama is willing, or able for that matter, to create his own legacy by himself. We know that he can be reasonably looked to as the laziest, least educated, and plainly dumbest occupant of the White House, ever in the history of this great nation.
        But I believe that he’s bought into his own myth, which his handlers, his ‘creators’ as it were, peddled so successfully not just to the LoFos but most of all to him, hook, line and sinker. I am convinced that his every waking hour, past giving free reign to spite and vindictiveness, is spent admiring his own ‘legendary accomplishments’. And I fully expect there to be an army of tiny, insignificant worker-bees, deep in the bowels of Lib/Prog Tower of Mordor where the next ‘legacy-building’ block is being searched for and implemented as we speak, over and over, ad infinitum.

        When you are a packaged deal, as Obama clearly is, the real value is not important. All that matters is the marketing and a good sales pitch, and Lib/Progs seem to have that in droves. Also, selling to stupid people helps, too.
        He is already a legend in so many of their diseased minds, they are more that willing to contribute to his ‘legacy’. In his own mind, he’s been a legend for a very long time.

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        • pattyloo says:

          I also agree that we agree. lol. it’s nice to have someone respond to a comment instead of just seeing disconnected ideas all over the thread. i think his handlers (jarrett and others that are completely hidden) just tell him what to do and he does it.

          I seriously doubt that he understands the reasons behind many of the actions he is told to take. He just does it because he doesn’t want to look stupid asking questions. In that sense, you may be right that he believes the hype about himself, and he doesn’t want to burst anyone’s bubble by letting on that he doesn’t understand things his followers would expect him to know (genius that they believe him to be). oh wait, didn’t he ask ‘who is that?’ when he saw a portrait of Thomas Jefferson? or maybe that was AlGore.

          when i hear things like ‘he’s worried about his legacy’, i feel like it is yet another excuse for his destructive behavior – as if it somehow is ok because he’s doing something for the long-term. and, like i said, i think it’s giving him more credit than he deserves because i think he’s only cognizant of about a 4-hour window of what’s in front of him. (when can i golf, have a smoke, get with my buddies).

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          • polk8dot says:

            Funny, reading your comments is almost like speaking into a well and hearing the echo reflected back at me. 🙂
            As for the TreeHouse, people on here quite often engage, and get invested in discussions stemming from a single comment, and it is great to see that the level of discourse does not fall below what’s appropriate, right, just, and honest, even if not necessarily always copasetic and on the same page.
            I love this site, and feel very fond of a great number of the Treepsters. I’m glad you seem to enjoy it, too.

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    • Great, well thought out and wonderfully written explicative. Thank you.

      I believe it is time for the world to start up quaking in fear of what this Evil still has in store for us. There is no stopping someone who is willing to destroy everything and everyone.

      This. This is truly the bottom line for this country.

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  29. ray76 says:

    Stupidity. Dangerous stupidity. Very dangerous, lethal stupidity.

    Congress should remove him for reason of mental defect, 25th Amendment

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  30. czarowniczy says:

    I don’t think the prevalent line of thought in the Mideast is that they quake at night about Iran having The Bomb as much as they do their individually not having The Bomb. We don’t hear about the oil Grand Poobahs in the Mideast complaining about Pakistan having The Bomb – matter of fact we don’t hear much anymore about how much $$$ the Saudis pump into the Paki economy to keep it afloat and those IRBMs that the Saudis bought that came with the particular mounting brackets on the nose that were meant for Chinese nuke warheads. Ah yes, rewrirters will tell you that the reports of those brackets being on the missiles was the result of non-professionals misinterpreting the structures and that the Chinese nuke specialists that were sighted there were purely ID’d as such by people to whom all Asians rook arike.
    I’m betting that the Saudis wouldn’t target Israel as they know Israel’s capable of toasting every major city to a glowing smoky black char even after absorbing a direct strike – I’m betting the Saudis might be looking at maybe eventually having to borrow the Samnson Option to save their own regime from other Islamic factions. But hey, a nuke-armed Iran with Russian military backing, what could possibly go wrong? The Bomb’s been around for some 70 years and it’s only been used in anger by the bitter-clingers in the inherently racist US and the only reason the Islamics could want one is to protect themselves from the reactionary, White, Zionist racists in the US, right?

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    • lovemygirl says:

      You’ve encapsulated what many anti-semites in the US embrace. Their hatred of Israel is so deep they can’t absorb what Bibi is blatently pointing out about the ICBMs.

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    • smiley says:

      and ayatollahla says its all “for peaceful purposes” anyway, so..no worries there !

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    • Crystal says:

      What Bibi has pointed out in the past is that Iran doesn’t need nukes to take out Israel; they have missiles for that. The nukes are to be used against the U.S.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        Yeah, don’t know if I totally agree with that. Methinks Bibi may have been trying to spook the hearers but Israel has a retaliatory capacity that even a heavy Iranian first strike won’t neutralize. I also have the feeling that Iran knows that if Israel is nuked Israel has nothing to lose by targeting Mecca and Medina. Aside from Tehran glowing in the dark the idea that history saying they were responsible for Mecca/Medina Meltdown helps the religious zealots in Tehran a bit in check.

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        • You may well be right. I see the whole mess in the Middle East as boiling down to “he who laughs last laughs best”. If it comes down to Iran v Pakistan or Iran v Saudi Arabia, the Russian backed Iranians will come out top dogs in a military fight if Israel is taken out. Mecca and Medina would only be an issue with those left standing, and it wouldn’t be the first time stuff got blamed on the other guy convincingly or sufficiently.

          A first strike against Iran would grow into an everybody jump on Israel and Iran could reserve a full retaliation, leaving strategic ability to take out whatever competitors for superiority are left. Iran wants to be the top dog left and masters of the Caliphate. Personally, I think that’s why they have also agreed that ISIS is a problem to be dealt with – but ISIS can be fought by other players in a West-led coalition. Stand back and let the other actors expend their capability.

          All conjecture, of course. We’d be talking WWIII and a lot of scorched earth and non-functional national entities. Bibi’s right to want to avoid that, too, but I think he sees the lack of any backing of Israel by the US the first step on the path to that worldly destruction. It will be interesting to hear what he has to say about the overall danger Iranian nuclear capability poses to the world while on his way to ultimately making the case for more proactive support for Israel.

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          • czarowniczy says:

            I think the Russians want to avoid the BOOM scenarios. They get a warm water port, they get a deal with the Iranians on oil/gas fields they share in the Caspian and the Russians get to use Iran as their big stick in the Mideast, an Islamic force that can ruke without the old USSR stink coming into the picture.
            Russia’s pretty well neutralized Egypt and Turkey as far as the NATO aspect goes, Greece is on its way and it’s loking as if the Us and NATO will do a lot of teh heavy lifting as far as gutting ISIS in Libya, leaving Russian-backed forces to clean up and assure oits access to the pipelines and ports there. If I qwere Assad I’d be looking at my 401k and sunny climes to retire to as I’m betting the Russkies are going to salve Turkey’s wants by establishing a Sunni government in Libya.
            Pakistan’s a minor issue to teh Russians and Iranians, I’m betting that if Iran walks into Pakistan tomorrow with a larger checkbook than the Saudis have there the Pakis will be looking at new bedfellows and clean sheets by sundown. The Russians would be able to work something out with the Pakis to ensure that India’s Paki Moslem worries (their other Subcontinent bruh) and make the Chinese a bit nervous too – a победа-پیروزی for the Russian-Iranian team. The R8ussians get to undermine Chinese plans for the Indian area and the Iranians will be in bed with the only other source of nukes in the Moslem world.
            If the Russians and Iranians can secure their footing in the Mideast and Pakistan (watch Yemen) Israel will be rather isolated and surrounded. The only major power that could aid Israel’s the US and it would have the devil’s own time getting basing support from anyone to aid Israel. The Moslem countries might desperately want to destroy Israel but just might make an uneasy peace allowing Israel to exist, within certain digestible limits, in a guarantee of nun-interference. No need to go to all the sturm und drang of toasting Israel if you can make her sit in the corner and be quiet.

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            • I agree with pretty much all you’ve said. I’m not really up to speed on the Russian interplay, not having done more than scratching the surface, and I appreciate the informed insight you’ve shared here. I absolutely agree with the ultimate tolerance of an extant Israel under the conditions you’ve outlined but for the Palestinian issue; I think pushing Israel’s borders and Israel pushing back would very much blow the non-interference factor and if that contest could be resolved it would have been long ago. Palestinians won’t go for a status-quo with Israel, and Israel won’t go for a two-state system, I don’t think, considering what they would have to surrender to have that kind of peace. I’m pretty sure the Israelis are willing to go sturm and drang if not doing so means the beginning of what may be an incremental destruction of the State. They have several times proven that their red line is much more inviolate than the ones Obama draws with his crayons.

              Your analysis rocks. I learn a lot from your posts and equally appreciate your humor. Rest assured I will keep all you’ve posted on this will in mind, and especially watch Yemen. Thanks.

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              • czarowniczy says:

                I believe that R8ussian designs are key to the situation in teh Mideast. The Russians have had the dream of being a, if not THE, world power for hundreds of years. Their national goals haven’t changed, just their forms of government, that dream is almost genetic. They now have an empire that spans more timezones than any other nation, stretched from the Atlantic (so to speak) to the Pacific and has natural resources that dwarf any other country. They’ve survived three major changes of government in less than 100 years and are on the verge of being a super power again.
                The Russians must have secure warm water ports and the Black Sea and Med are about as close as they are going to get to that – just right now. They also have a huge network of natural gas lines going from Russian fields to Europe, line that traverse many of the old Bloc countries, strategic (almost) ex-NATO co8untries in the Med and are building ports in Syria, Turkey and Greece that will transport their and Mideast natural gas to Europe through alternate routes and to South/Central America.
                Iran shares huge NG fields with Qatar and Russia and being Caucasian and not Arabic has more in common with Russia than it does the Arab Moslem countries. It also has expansionism in common with Russia – it wants to be the Big Kid on the Block and Russia’s kindly supplied advanced weaponry to it for years and kindled a working relationship there. Between them they can kick ass and take names with Iran becoming the Mideast ruler with Russia benefiting without having to deal with the Moslems while still carrying Afghanistan baggage.
                Iran also gets a big brother whom the EU, US and (to some extent) Israel’s wary of.
                Israel doesn’t have to be destroyed, only ‘neutralized’. If Israel agrees to sit in its corner, surrender some territory for peace, not interfere with Islamic goings-on in the Mideast and perhaps even give up its nukes for a UN-guaranteed existence it’ s ‘threat’ to the Moslems is effectively neutralized without that messy BOOM stuff. The rest of the world would welcome a less tense situation in the area and I’m sure even the US would ask Israel to pick up the soap if a small and clean tree for us to diplomatically hide behind were presented. As the number of Latin Americans flood in, presenting us with their own political reality and economic needs I’m sure the pols would welcome an ‘out’ that would allow them to pander to a new voting dynamic that couldn’t find, never mind give a rat’s ass, about Israel.
                I say watch Yemen as if the “Iranian ‘backed’ rebels take over it should be a short time before the Iranians are invited in and the equipment needed to block the mouth of the Red Sea, just as they have the Gulf, will start flowing in with Iranian ‘technicians, advisers and operators’ starts to move in. That will give Iran, and Russia by extension. the ability to threaten US and European (and Chinese) shipping transiting either body of water. Let’s see how the Chinese respond to this as it interferes with their strategic moves to surround India and cozy up to Pakistan.
                Ahhhh, to live in wondrous and interesting times.

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                • You do this analysis thing really well, and concisely address the larger issue than the infighting among the Muslims. Kudos and thanks again for sharing your thoughts. We are seeing what is on the horizon as to threats to US power and it’s looking none too good. We don’t know what’s traveling down the road to us at breakneck speeds but there is plenty to put bets on. Interesting times, indeed.

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                  • czarowniczy says:

                    I never liked that scenario where the DC high-rollers were playing international poker and using us as chips but that’s apparently where we’re at. Twenty or so months and we’ll see who pops out of the clown car glove box to become our next source of heartburn

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                • Can’t reply below your last message, so put it here.

                  I’m right there with ya, kiddo. Thanks again.

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    • smiley says:

      maybe saudiis/arabs are hoping for a pre-emptive strike.
      meanwhile suadiis are building a wall .
      smart.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        Yeah, and I do believe the Saudis had some choice words for Israel when they started building a wall a bit back – but that was then and this is now.

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