Georgia Schoolteacher Labeled “Racist” and Suspended For Saying “All Lives Matter”…

Blasphemy  ….will not be tolerated !! 

STL rally Black Lives MatterGEORGIA – A Georgia middle school teacher has been suspended for 10 days after she responded to a “Black Lives Matter” Facebook photo by saying, “All lives matter.”

Eighth Street Middle School teacher Kelly Tucker posted that and the following on December 8 after seeing a Ferguson-related protest sign in her town’s Christmas parade:

“Its turned into a race matter. What about the thugs that beat the father in his vehicle because he didn’t slow down? What about the thugs that shot the college baseball player because they were bored? The list can go on and on. If the dude hadn’t have stolen, he would be alive. I think signs should read, take the hood off your head and pull up your dang pants and quit impregnating everybody. I’m tired of paying for these sorry [expletive] thugs. I would much rather my hard earned money, that the government takes, go to people who need it, such as abusive adults with children. Not to mention the animals that they beat and fight too. That’s all I’m saying.”

“The school board attorney says it went viral and that it was offensive, violating code of ethics for educators,” WALB reports.

“Ms. Tucker made a post that day that we consider offensive, and it has caused problems within the system,” Tift County school board attorney Hank Pittman said at the hearing before the school board, according to the Tifton Gazette.

“It’s clear reading this message in context that it’s directed toward African Americans. It contains many negative stereotypes directed toward African Americans,” according to the school’s attorney.

Referring to parents, teachers and “local leaders,” Pittman said, “They asked that something be done about it.

“The post is a violation of the code of ethics for educators.” (read more)

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113 Responses to Georgia Schoolteacher Labeled “Racist” and Suspended For Saying “All Lives Matter”…

  1. John Galt says:

    “Blasphemy ….will not be tolerated !!”

    Georgia, USA is ruled by Sharia law.

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    • justfactsplz says:

      That Code Pink lady in the picture was talking a bunch of bull about ISIS last night on t.v. I can’t stand her. Put her with Harf.

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    • Kitty Smith says:

      She needs to get herself to a really good civil rights lawyer fast and sue the school district down to their panties and shoelaces. The school board will be voted out next election if this costs the taxpayers some money.

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  2. Les says:

    Great way to teach kids about individual freedom.

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    • 2+2 says:

      “The post is a violation of the code of ethics for educators.”

      Lesson: Thou shalt not post the truth on social media.

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      • 2+2 says:

        this is why, if you are going to post, use a fake email and fake name. Never your real ones.

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        • Dixie Darling says:

          or just stay off of it altogether!!!!!!

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        • seeingeye2 says:

          That’s what I’ve done since I first got on the Internet years ago.

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          • AdukeLAXobserver says:

            I made the mistake of using my real name for stuff on the internet early on. Can’t remember when I decided to stop that practice. But searching my name brings up stuff I posted from the year 2000!

            Also I must say I am disturbed by how much information people want to put out there about every little thing they do. Continually posting pictures of every little thing they do. Acting like people they haven’t talked to in years before they got facebook, are people worthy of wasting their time conversing with.

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            • 2+2 says:

              yes! I went to a play last weekend with friends. As soon as we were settled in our seats they were broadcasting statuses “at xxx with xxx.” I insisted they delete my name. Aside from the fact that I don’t want my activities tracked, I don’t know why people can’t understand letting the world know you aren’t home isn’t wise.

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              • Kitty Smith says:

                I have an extremely obnoxious, narcissistic stepdaughter who does this. She is constantly – almost every waking minute – sending out FB messages, selfies and updates every time she blows her nose. Of course she’s also a textaholic, too, craves drama and loves to stir the pot.

                She’s been warned that it’s unwise and unappreciated, but she’s addicted to this stuff and herself. One of these days she’s going to learn how foolish this is the hard way.

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              • RoyBaty says:

                And many who post every detail about their life on Facebook, are furious that NSA might be collecting metadata on their overseas calls.

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            • 2+2 says:

              y’all might think this is weird, but neither of us own a cellphone. We have a landline, that’s it. I do intend to get a burner phone for emergencies and for when we travel alone. But we both feel that we got along just fine without the “convenience” of a cell phone all this time, and my landline is still cheaper but the cost is slowly creeping up. I expect we’ll switch to wireless when it equals out.

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              • Coast says:

                I have a cheap flip phone with a $20 every three months plan…good for what I need.

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              • Clownzilla says:

                Landlines are tapped or compromised as well; the illusion of security and privacy was lifted many years ago. I like what I read about NSA employees saying that NSA stands for Never Say Anything. Cheers!

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              • francismuldoon says:

                Tracfone, pay cash and its about as anonymous as you can get.
                $9.99 for phone
                $19.99 for 240 minutes
                Speak to other tracfones and they are untraceable except for location, I think they can still GPS them.

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  3. taqiyyologist says:

    I wonder if any books Colin Flaherty can be found in that school’s library?

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    • steve says:

      50% of all violent crimes, murders, strong armed robberies, rapes, beatings, are committed by 3% of the population in this country. That would be Black males ages 13-35.

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      • BooRadley55 says:

        By pointing out that statistical fact, you sir, are racist.

        And by “racist,” I mean you are telling the truth. That’s what the term “racist” has come to mean. Speaking the truth about one segment of the U.S. society = racism.

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  4. joanfoster says:

    Of course she was talking about AAs. Who else fits that profile? We haven’t seen any astronauts just those claiming to be aspiring astronauts. You gotta wonder what would happen to those baggy pants upon leaving the earth’s atmosphere.

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  5. Sharon says:

    So all lives don’t matter???? It would appear that’s what they are saying.

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  6. joesbabygirl says:

    I guess it’s only racist if it is true, and a white person says it.

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  7. revbacon says:

    From what I’ve observed about Big Brutha lately, the “All Lives Matter” is only a misdemeanor in their eyes. A few others have uttered same, and have been rebuked for failure to understand the “black experience” but they were allowed to keep their jobs (citation needed). I think the felony, in the Ministry of Truth’s eyes, was to point out that behaviors have consequences. The Michigan felon who gave a “Black Lives Matter” rant instead of apologizing to the family of his victim is an example of the lack of accountability that has been instilled in these people. It’s very pernicious, too: when Big Brutha cares more about some honesty about some horrible actions then he does about those actions, we are truly letting the inmates run the asylum.

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  8. 2+2 says:

    Thought police censorship! Infringement of freedom of speech. She stated the obvious. What they proudly present to the rest of society. So are they admitting it’s shameful and offensive, since they are offended by the mirror being held up?

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  9. my66 says:

    Hmm… she’s a veteran in the system and, although what she wrote might just as well have come from any teacher — Black, White, Male, Female, etc. — she might want to have been more cautious in that fief atmosphere that is anything but “public.” A teacher learns early about speaking their mind anywhere, no matter how true those words may be – as hers were.

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    • joesbabygirl says:

      Exactly, my daughter-in-law is a teacher, very conservative, but has to bite her tongue a LOT. Standing up for what you believe in America can cause you your career and your life. We as white American’s do not have the same “rights” as others.

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  10. allhail2 says:

    Ok, fine. The problem appears to be the references and stereotype language used. Simple, repost the whole damn thing and substitute African-American for thug. There, problem solved, call it straight up like it is.

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  11. Bet her teacher’s union threw her under the bus, too. Allhail2 is absolutely right. All these other valid points aside, she WAS telling the truth. Of course, well all know beyond a shadow of a doubt that facts and truth are not, any longer, allowed.

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    • Les says:

      No teacher’s union in Georgia, just professional organizations that give all the money from dues to liberal causes. You get what you pay for sometimes.

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      • peachteachr says:

        Most teachers in Georgia join this organization to have access to legal representation. For years I had a rider on my homeowners which offered me $300,000 should I be sued while at work. When that was no longer available, reason dictated that I join GAE. Little Johnny’s parents will sue you at the drop of a hat. I hate that they spend my dues to support liberal politicians, but to not join would have put my family and our home at risk.

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  12. Paul H. Lemmen says:

    Reblogged this on A Conservative Christian Man.

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  13. Beverly says:

    All are wrong. NO ONE”S life matters to your Uncle Sam. ? 10 day suspension ??
    Wear it with pride….I am proud of her…

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    • thefirstab says:

      Somebody needs to get this ball rolling….
      Hope she can take the heat, and watch her back. She’s not the only one that feels this way, don’t have statistics but I’m sure many fine black people do, too.
      In this rural area of Georgia, there are limited opportunities for adults, let alone youth of all colors. Tift County has much more to offer than outlying areas, and that’s not much.
      So, Tift County leadership, how about using this teachable moment and step up? 4-H is great, but these kids need to look forward to a future.
      I have been through this area many many times. Once you’re off the Highway, it could be a larger Panola MS with peanut and cotton fields.
      Rant over.

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      • thefirstab says:

        Not quite over 😊
        Since the ” language” used was offensive to some, how about some pushback on some of that other language we see on the Internet or hear on the street – like “cracka”, “chicken”, “polar bear” etc. I’m sure there are some who find THAT offensive.
        That’s fair, right?

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  14. enuffisenuff says:

    Forget whatever racially insensitive things she allegedly said. She’s teaching our children and her grammar is atrocious! By rights she should be taken out and hung for the cold blooded murder of the English tongue!

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  15. Les says:

    I would much rather my hard earned money, that the government takes, go to people who need it, such as abusive adults with children

    She means “abused adults” right? The first rule of the Internet: Don’t post when you are mad, you will make errors every single time. Especially if you are flaming another poster’s grammar. Every.single.time.

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  16. Ziiggii says:

    I knew this was going to become a trend as soon as we talked about the Maryland teacher!

    “Ms. Tucker made a post that day that we consider offensive, and it has caused problems within the system,” Tift County school board attorney Hank Pittman said at the hearing before the school board, according to the Tifton Gazette.”

    so the real reason is because it was going to cause a problem with the school system. As truthful as her statement is and as her right outside of school to make a statement the School Board would rather bend over backwards to placate to the #FTP/#Blacklivesmatter crowd because they don’t want to deal with them. Sounds like how this Administration deals with ISIS and radical Islam in general.

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    • Ziiggii says:

      Watch the same things will begin yo happen to other public officials (first responders, LE, local officials). There is a professional trolling group that is their mission to find these types of people and “catch’em” in a snare. Same thing happened to my wife (teacher in a larger school system) over the Christmas break. Was accused of a racial post on FB and threatened her Principle with exposing it to the NY Times. All a lie! No post was ever made by my wife and she happens to teach underprivileged/underdeveloped kids for the school system (almost exclusively black and latino). She would hurt a fly let alone speak ill of the families she has such compassion for.

      There is definitely a movement to push the agenda even nefariously!

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  17. ThankYou,Treepers says:

    Along the race line between black and white, only those on one side are allowed to voice criticism across the line.

    Or at least so says The Leftist / Corporate Rules of Political Correctness.

    There are many people who see themselves as being far from leftists yet are among the most brutal enforcers of political correctness. Why? Corporate cowardice. And not just in the private sector, as this public school district is demonstrating.

    It was the corporate cowards, not the leftists, who got lefty extremist B. Hussein O. elected US President twice despite his utter lack of bonafides save the ability to read aloud under the brightest lights while in brown skin. Yes, the corporate media did the heavy pushing, but it took the consolidated effort of the corporate culture nationally to get it done.

    Conservatives speak of individual liberty. Yet how many corporate employees have the liberty to be individuals.

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  18. annieoakley says:

    Give up. No one with any sense of right and wrong can teach. Even in a daycare toddler room, in an Episcopal Church, any reference to God was Verbotten! no Baby Jesus at Christmas, no Indians at Thanksgiving. Halloween was COOL. Skulls,skeletons, ghosts occult anything was approved. Tooth Fairies, Peter Pan, no problem. Go into the church run around like crazy people on the Altar no problem. Kick your teacher, hit your teacher they have to take it because even a three year old knows what is most important in life.

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  19. peppie says:

    Where’s the George Soros of the conservative movement who would subsidize this teacher’s lost pay or give her a platform to speak from? Where is the George Soros of the right?

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    • Amity says:

      The difference is, one lady is directly attacking people (“Kill yourselves”) while the other is protesting government policy (“I’m tired of paying for… thugs”). Neither lady is particularly articulate, but the underlying argument is totally different.

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      • hoonan says:

        So are we drawing a line on freedom of speech and that speech being deemed “offensive”? Then regarding an employers actions towards and an employee on social media comments based on the ideology of the speech proper or improper?

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        • Amity says:

          In a free society, yes, I think employers should have the right to fire someone for public statements. That does not impose on the speaker’s free speech, because the fired person is free to find another employer who agrees with them. Free speech is the right to say what you think without the government punishing you for it. It is not the right to say anything at any time to anyone with no consequences.

          I do see a difference between direct attacks and reasonably polite disputes over government policy. As an employer, I would indeed considering firing someone who was okay with verbally attacked people, particularly if their job involved working with a lot of other people, and especially if their job was to teach! Being able to discuss an issue you feel passionately about while focusing on the issues and not resorting to personal attacks is a learned skill, and teachers are the ones in charge of teaching kids that skill. If a teacher does not use that skill herself, she has lost her credibility as a teacher.

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          • auscitizenmom says:

            The actual question is not free speech, but whether that free speech can include speech not liked by a certain (black) group of people who feel free to denigrate whoever they want but don’t want to hear speech opposing their views.

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    • Chip Bennett says:

      Not too big of a difference no?

      Perhaps not, for someone with the IQ of a turnip.

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  20. rashomon says:

    Meanwhile, back in the real world while the PTB are arguing about Twitter and Facebook messages:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/02/breaking-report-of-four-gunmen-in-shooting-at-frederick-maryland-high-school/

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  21. zephyrbreeze says:

    Seems #AllLivesMatter rips apart the leftists’ illusion that some are more equal than others. CAN”T have people saying All Live Matter. So that is what we MUST say. Loudly, Persistently. BREITBART LIVES! It should be a chant at every Republican gathering especially from conservatives.

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  22. True Colors says:

    Deray McKesson is extremely open with his constant hostility towards white people. But yet, you don’t see the school district that he works for ever suspending him…….

    …… and the real kicker? This guy actually works in the human resources department, for crying out loud.

    #blackprivilege

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  23. True Colors says:

    Deray McKesson twitter – CONSTANTLY flooded with hatred towards white people
    https://twitter.com/deray

    Deray McKesson – Minnesota School district
    http://humanresources.mpls.k12.mn.us/

    TC

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  24. lottacats says:

    I wonder if the IDIOT white woman in the picture above thinks HER life matters too?!!!
    She’s part of the problem. Haven’t we seen her shenanigans before?
    Damn fools just don’t get that if they stopped all the whining, got an education, speak properly, wear clothing properly and got a friggin’ job they might actually feel like their lives DO matter.
    Drop the damn signs. The signs won’t make anybody matter!

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  25. TKim says:

    I always say that that same crowd would chase us with sticks were we to carry a sign reading:Pre-born Black Lives Matter Too. The thrust of the rage would be that we were trying to “hijack a legitimate cause” i.e. the imperiled young black man, and instead “force our Conservative agenda” in a way that tried to “force black women” into reproductive slavery.

    Fully grown black man trying to disarm a cop or beating the snot out of a man asking who he is ? Endangered species. Black baby too young to live outside of the womb but not protected from someone who makes his living slaughtering him in mommy’s womb? Not an endangered species, not a cause, not a developing black man with a life that matters or a developing black woman who will one day have “reproductive freedom.” It’s just a “choice”. Tossed into a medical waste bin.

    I don’t use social media because I find it Orwellian and sad. Only my opinion. But I can imagine if this teacher’s Facebook were full of selfies, posts about how great The Real Housewives are, pictures of her dinners, workout schedule, new shoes, and whines about a broken fingernail, that would be ok. Vapid and disinterested in the actual world and too cowed to take a stand? Regular education stars there.

    They call it Facebook for a reason. If it were Heartbook or Thoughtbook, the Offended Police would get no rest at all.

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  26. benzy says:

    Looking at this situation from a slightly different perspective.. let’s start with the assumption that what the teacher wrote was offensive toward blacks. No where in her comments did she mention blacks or African-American. So.. in order that the school administration was able to discern that she was, in fact, describing African-Americans, THEY must have found that her words clearly described the behaviors and attitudes of African-Americans. In other words, the very fact that the school administration recognized that she was talking about blacks, proves that they hold those same “racially charged” opinions that they accuse her of holding.

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    • P7rancher says:

      This is an excellent and accurate point. The definition of stereotype should be examined by this administration. “They” seem to believe stereotypes are not based on factual information when in truth stereotypes can range from weakly fact based to strongly fact based. Sadly, “black stereotypes” are moving closer and closer toward strongly fact based.

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      Yep, yep, yep. Funny how that works. 🙄

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    • peachteachr says:

      Sometimes a thing speaks for itself as you noted. Black people took offense because they recognized themselves in her post. Tifton is 20 miles from me and has been voted one of the top 100 small towns in the US. The final punishment was 5 days without pay according to the news last night.

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  27. sarah says:

    I am a teacher and have posted retorts stating “all lives matter”. I say fire me too, its time to stop allowing one point of view. This. Is unbelievable

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  28. maggiemoowho says:

    Hank Pittman is the one who assumed she was speaking about African Americans. Looks like he is the one who is stereotyping African Americans, not Ms.Tucker. So the way I see it, Ms. Tucker was suspended because some attorney claims to know what Ms. Tucker was thinking when she wrote that post. Outrageous, shame on that school district and Mr. Pittman.

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  29. czarowniczy says:

    Oh Ho! Apparently Teacher Montag missed one of the mandatory Kool-Aid tastings, off to the woodshed non-correct thinker.
    Bless ’em all, soon my little cultural torpedo will be loosed on the revisionist teachers that infect what used to be learning systems, and that’s going to be interesting, my own little termites-in-training.
    Then again, the progressives have infected almost every nook and cranny of the South over the decades. They flock here for the climate and the belief, as the British missionaries of the 18th and 19th centuries had, the uncivilized natives need their enlightened help to lift themselves out of the cultural morass they live in. I can see relatives and friend, Birkenstock-clad and waving $9 cups of fair trade coffee in reusable cups waving them off as they board planes for the darkest depths of the Old South. Georgia’s been invaded by northern and northeastern progressives over the decades in the more urban areas to the regret of many rural dwellers. I’m sure that having one of their kapos break doctrinaire ranks was quite disturbing and required she be made an example. I’m sure that after a short period of time she’ll be allowed to confess her wrong-thinking to the People, ask forgiveness, slowly work her way back to The Fold and go back to turning Southern children into compliant little modernists.

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  30. Daniel G. says:

    “It’s clear reading this message in context that it’s directed toward African Americans.” And why, pray tell, is that obvious? No mention of race was ever made. Could it possibly be because it describes a majority of the black population and we all know it? Could it be that the stereotype is fair? I mean, that’s what this all boils down to. If someone describes a group of people without mentioning their race, but a particular race immediately jumps into your mind, can that really be called a stereotype? Or is it simply an accurate description? Nobody wants to say it out loud and they want to pretend like the pathological behavior can just be excused away as a “stereotype”, but it still doesn’t mean liberals aren’t thinking the same thing. Heck, even other black people think the same thing.

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  31. francismuldoon says:

    As always, there’s more to the story.
    She actually said a little bit more than “All lives matter”
    http://www.kltv.com/story/28000765/teacher-fights-suspension

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      Yes she did. All of it the truth and she didn’t call anybody any names, except for thugs. If the shoe fits…..?

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    • PatrickSMcNally says:

      She did use some unprofessional jargon there. Although this is obviously being greatly blown out of proportion, if I had been a friend of hers with her at the time then I probably would have counseled her to count to 10 and then go back and rewrite the message before pushing “send.” Nothing which she said was actually “racist” by any meaningful definition. But she was arguing over the Ferguson stew and with respect to that mess you have to be prepared that all your words will be scrutinized for anything which sounds unbecoming.

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  32. Ghost of Gene DebsII says:

    This “All Lives Matter” reaction is asinine. Of course they do. It’s just that society and the state apparently need to be reminded that black lives matter, so we’re focusing on them right now.

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      Well, what’s asinine is that “society and the state” are being reminded when it is “black males” mostly who need the reminding. Maybe then they would stop committing genocide on themselves.

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      • auscitizenmom says:

        Oh, and I forgot, forgive me, about all the black women aborting black babies. Tell them, too.

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      • Ghost of Gene DebsII says:

        The crime that afflicts so many black communities is real, and it is a problem, but black men and boys aren’t killing and maiming each other because of their racial prejudice, now are they? They’re killing each other because they live in ghettos where hopelessness, desperation, and the American cults of violence and competition cheapens their lives.

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        • auscitizenmom says:

          No, it is a cultural thing. Just pay attention to the rap music lyrics.

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          • Ghost of Gene DebsII says:

            I have. There are different types of rap/hip-hop, and it’s unfortunate that the commercialized idiocy that the corporate music industry pushes is the kind that gets the most airtime. It’s not a universally accurate reflection of black American culture.

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        • TKim says:

          Well maybe our government should spend trillions of dollars to “free” the ghetto dwellers if they can’t seem to do it themselves. Oh wait…

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        • PatrickSMcNally says:

          Well George Zimmerman did not kill Trayvon Martin because of any racial prejudice. Zimmerman shot in self-defense because a thug had gotten the advantage over him after having attacked him and so firing a shot seemed like the only clear way of self-defense. No racial prejudice was involved. Does that make everything better for you now?

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    • Chip Bennett says:

      It’s just that society and the state apparently need to be reminded that black lives matter, so we’re focusing on them right now.

      If black people (mostly, black males 15-34) would stop killing other black people, the loss of innocent black lives would drop by about 94%.

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    • PatrickSMcNally says:

      The slogan of “Black Lives Matter” was given a high profile for the sole purpose of obscuring the fact that criminal punks like Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown each started the scrapes which resulted in their each being shot in valid self-defense. There’s nothing else going for this stupid pseudo-campaign. It’s just an effort to drown out the realization of some simple facts.

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      • Ghost of Gene DebsII says:

        I’ve been following the Black Lives Matter movement closely since it began, and I’ve witnessed first hand what it means to people. This is not a PR campaign to sanctify imperfect human beings like Trayvon Martin, Mike Brown (neither of whom were killed in self-defense, by the way) or Eric Garner. Their murders were tragedies, but this is about more than any one of them. This is a reaction to the flagrant disregard this country has for black people specifically and people of color in general. This is an open struggle, long in the making, against police brutality, the mass incarceration state, and the systemic racism that still infects the United States. It’s a fight for justice, dignity, and respect, waged by people who are sick and tired of seeing their brothers and sisters treated like animals or so much garbage.

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        • auscitizenmom says:

          Unfortunately, this violent movement has nothing to do with “justice, dignity, and respect.”

          And, you are absolutely, 100% wrong about the thug Trayvon Martin who attacked a man and ended up dead, and also Mike Brown, a thief and bully who beat up a cop and turned to attack him again, thereby causing his own death.

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          • Ghost of Gene DebsII says:

            There have been hundreds of protests and rallies since this movement started last year, and with the exceptions of the riots in Ferguson and scattered acts of property damage and looting in cities like Oakland, the vast majority have been nonviolent. I’ve directly participated in several of them, including one that brought thousands of people together, and they’ve been peaceful and disciplined. At least some of the violence that did take place, by the way, was initiated by police provocateurs egging people on.

            Darren Wilson claimed Mike Brown beat him up (and what grievous, life-threatening injuries those light bruises were!), which is to be expected of a cop who killed an unarmed teen from over 100 feet away. Witness testimony on was inconsistent at best, worthless at the worst. The two who told the grand jury that Brown turned around and charged Wilson “like a football player” have been thoroughly discredited. I don’t remember the Zimmerman trial as well, but I’d love to see the evidence that proved Martin attacked him first.

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            • auscitizenmom says:

              Wow. You really have missed out. You have all your information wrong. You really should do some research before you try to discuss this. We’ve actually read the transcripts of the witnesses here. The ones who said Brown had his hands up giving up, were all on the same side of the street together right after it happened. They coordinated their story. There are all kinds of pictures that prove this. And, no, the ones who said he rushed Wilson were not discredited, but the ones who said he had his hands up were. And, people in the neighborhood were threatened if they spoke up for Wilson. There were so many lies floating around it was ridiculous. You are on the side of the thugs who want to rape, rob, and kill without consequences and you are marching to help them get it. Unfortunately, the poor honest black people who live in these areas are the ones who are truly suffering because of these riots. These are the people I care about.

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              • Ghost of Gene DebsII says:

                Yes, the “hands up, don’t shoot!” incident probably never happened. I agree with you there. As for the people who claimed Brown charged Wilson, I’m referring to Witnesses 40 and 10 in the grand jury testimony. In the case of Witness 40, she was an acknowledged racist, a vocal supporter of Darren Wilson, and a convicted fraud with a history of mental illness and lying to the police. Hardly a paragon of credibility, wouldn’t you say? The evidence suggests that she wasn’t at the scene when the shooting happened. Witness 10 was a regular Self-Doubting Thomas who would have been destroyed by any competent lawyer in a cross-examination.
                http://www.democracynow.org/2014/12/17/was_key_grand_jury_witness_in

                I know exactly whose side I’m on, and it’s the side that’s fighting a system that allows killer cops to murder unarmed people and get away with it.

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                • auscitizenmom says:

                  Well, good for you. If you succeed, you will save a black man here and there. However, if you get on the right side, and tell the black men to quit killing each other, and succeed in that, you will save a lot of black men and maybe a bunch of little black children. Have you looked up the actual statistics on black deaths? Oh, and who are the good black people really afraid of anyway?

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                  • Ghost of Gene DebsII says:

                    I’m white. It’s not my place to tell black men to quit killing each other. It’s not my place to tell black people what to do period. They know what they want or need better than I do. I became involved in this movement because I believe it’s better to act in solidarity than condescend and dictate from afar. Like I acknowledged earlier, violent black-on-black crime is a serious issue, one that’s snuffed out the lives of far too many people before their time. That said, it’s not the main focus of this movement right now. You disagree with those priorities, but to be perfectly honest, unless you’re doing something to address these problems besides chastising blacks, your opinion isn’t helping anyone.

                    Who are they afraid of? Ask them. Go and talk to real live black and brown human beings. Failing that, do the research and listen to their voices. Read their words.

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                  • Chip Bennett says:

                    Like I acknowledged earlier, violent black-on-black crime is a serious issue, one that’s snuffed out the lives of far too many people before their time. That said, it’s not the main focus of this movement right now.

                    That’s because the “movement” really doesn’t care about black lives, at all. If it did, it would be addressing the cause of 94% of the loss of innocent black lives, rather than railing against factors that cause less than 1% of the loss of innocent black lives.

                    The BLM “movement” is driven primarily – if not entirely – by you socialists, who view black people as nothing more than pawns in your political game. Quite frankly, you (and all other such socialists) disgust me. You can preach condescendingly all you want, but you’re doing here exactly what you’ve done throughout the last century. And if you don’t know what’s really going on, then you’re just this century’s version of the Useful Idiot. Socialists continue to make use of those, too.

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                  • Ghost of Gene DebsII says:

                    As an actual socialist who’s been fairly active in it, I can personally assure you that the Black Lives Matter movement (no need for the sarcastic quotes, that’s exactly what it is) is not a devious Red plot. A number of socialist and communist organizations have been involved, but they have not been the driving force, and while the political bent of the movement is broadly left-wing, that umbrella encompasses everything from liberals/progressives to communists, socialists, and anarchists. I’ve been to enough of the rallies to see that the attitude displayed by most of the white/non-black leftists present has been generally respectful and sincere, and except for the likes of microscopic fringe groups like the Revolutionary Communist Party who are widely regarded as cultish cranks within the Radical Left, most of these organizations have not attempted to hijack the demonstrations for their own agenda.

                    What have we been doing throughout the last century, exactly?

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                • PatrickSMcNally says:

                  Witness 40 was discounted by the Grand Jury as the record shows. The only lingering query about Witness 40 is whether or not Witness 40 was an honestly deranged person or someone hired by Benjamin Crump to create a false controversy about the logical verdict. If you spent any time looking at this case then you would know that Witness 40 was irrelevant to the verdict.

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                  • Ghost of Gene DebsII says:

                    I’ll look for that part in the record, then. Why was someone with her history put on the stand to begin with? What prosecutor allows false witnesses to go in front of a grand jury and perjure themselves, unless they’re completely incompetent or pursuing an agenda, in this case a non-indictment for Wilson? There’s zero indication that Crump hired McElroy or that she would willingly choose to sabotage Wilson’s defense by lying on the stand. She approached the police with her testimony, and like I mentioned, she was an avid supporter of Wilson specifically and cops in general, according to her social media information.

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                • PatrickSMcNally says:

                  Well if you’re willing to allow that “hands up, don’t shoot!” never happened then you’re right away granting that the entire founding premise for the calls to prosecute Darren Wilson was a lie. How many lies told by black gang members have to be exposed before the right to the presumption of “innocent until proven guilty” kicks in. What you are actually acknowledging here is that in your calculus the mere fact of Darren Wilson being a white cop allows us to discount that assumption of innocence and instead work from “guilty until proven innocent.” In that context it becomes easy to admit that such-and-such aspect of the accusations against Wilson never happened but so what, we can just keep on making up new charges until we get a conviction.

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            • auscitizenmom says:

              Oh, and if you think putting “light bruises” on a cop is okay, then YOU are part of the problem.

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              • Ghost of Gene DebsII says:

                I don’t. Neither of us know for certain if Brown gave Wilson those pitiful bruises. Given Brown’s size, I think the marks would have been more severe. Even if he did attack Wilson, their mildness (he was sent home from the hospital with Ibuprofen-like painkillers, as I recall) clearly suggests Wilson’s life wasn’t in any danger at the time, and the alleged attack was over by the time Brown was shot to death.

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                • auscitizenmom says:

                  “Even if he did attack Wilson” Like I said, if you think even a pinky fingertip size bruise was okay, then you are part of the problem.

                  I hope you wake up to what is really going on. The blacks are being used, and the ones who are using them don’t care a flip about them. Please find the true facts and act on those. I pray that God will open your eyes and give your heart direction.

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                  • Ghost of Gene DebsII says:

                    Again, we don’t know how Wilson got those bruises. We only have his profoundly biased word to base this harrowing life-or-death account on. I suspect we’re not going to find common ground on this, so let’s agree to disagree.

                    I appreciate the sentiment, but I wouldn’t waste any time beseeching God on my behalf. I’m a staunch atheist, and I’ve managed just fine without his direction so far.

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                  • auscitizenmom says:

                    In that case, I will pray twice as hard.

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                  • Ghost of Gene DebsII says:

                    Whatever floats your ark, sister. I won’t begrudge you your faith.

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                • PatrickSMcNally says:

                  This is another silly false argument. The blows which Michael Brown attempted to inflict on Darren Wilson happened while Wilson was still in the car and Brown attempted to grab his gun in order to turn it on him. This was a life-threatening situation involving attempted murder by Brown against Wilson. Obviously when the victim is seated in a car with an assailant attacking from the outside of the car, the physical blow will be lessened. In open space one can swing a broad punch which lands with hard impact. When the attacker is trying to punch through a car window at the victim then there will be less of a sweeping swing and hence a softer impact. Hence, swelling around the eye but no orbital eye-fracture. None of that contradicts the seriousness of Brown’s attempted assault.

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            • PatrickSMcNally says:

              Was Louis Head a police provocateur? How about Leslie McSpadden? Yes, it is true that police and the FBI have long histories of planting provocateurs in places to stir things up and it can be good to remain aware of that in general. But in this specific case one has live videos of black gangs ransacking stores, audios of shouts “Eff the Whites! Kill the Whites!” right before a fatal attack, and other such recordings which clearly show that the main problem has not been police provocateurs. One has to be willfully blind to ignore all of this and instead ramble about police provocateurs.

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              • Ghost of Gene DebsII says:

                Do you know for a fact that every last one of the people shouting that invective or egging looters on were not police agents? It’s a matter of record that cops have infiltrated the protests on multiple occasions. During the Oakley-Berkley demonstrations, for example, masked (and armed) undercover officers were discovered among the crowds, and according to protestors, were banging on windows and attempting to incite a riot before they were revealed. I would be shocked if there weren’t any in Ferguson.

                As for Leslie McSpadden and Louis Head, I’m only aware of what he said after the grand jury’s decision was announced. It obviously wasn’t the most responsible thing to say at the time, but he just heard his stepson’s killer was getting away scot-free. Not everyone accepts that kind of news quietly and with stoic grace.

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            • Chip Bennett says:

              Darren Wilson claimed Mike Brown beat him up (and what grievous, life-threatening injuries those light bruises were!)…

              The Missouri statutes regarding the justified use of deadly force in self-defense do not have a “severity of injury” clause. That Brown assaulted Wilson inside the police cruiser is beyond dispute, based not only on witness testimony, but on physical evidence.

              It would appear that you’ve not actually researched that evidence. Fortunately for you, you’ve come to the right place. It’s all available here. Research away.

              …which is to be expected of a cop who killed an unarmed teen from over 100 feet away.

              Whoops; shell casing locations and blood splatter locations thoroughly disprove the “from over 100 feet away” claim. Maybe you should research the actual evidence? (See above.)

              Witness testimony on was inconsistent at best, worthless at the worst. The two who told the grand jury that Brown turned around and charged Wilson “like a football player” have been thoroughly discredited.

              I don’t think you have your MSNBC/PBS talking points down quite correctly. Again, research.

              I don’t remember the Zimmerman trial as well, but I’d love to see the evidence that proved Martin attacked him first.

              There is no evidence that Zimmerman physically assaulted Martin, at all. There is ample evidence – physical evidence and witness testimony – that Martin physically assaulted Zimmerman.

              All available evidence can be found here. Make yourself comfortable; it’ll take you a while to digest it all.

              But you’re going to have to take the initiative to do that research yourself. Most here aren’t going to hold your hand, and re-hash what has been discussed here, at-length, for months (and years).

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        • TKim says:

          You have the MSNBC talking points Ghost of Commie Gene. Now for the other side try reading a little Colin Flaherty. The crimes you don’t hear about would curl your widdle toes.

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        • gannasview says:

          That is completely bull dung regarding Trayvon Martin and Mike Brown! They were killed because in self defense. I challenge you to let someone beat your head against a sidewalk and see how long it would take before you would defend yourself. Maybe you would rather take the challenge of someone punching you a few times in the face while you are in a vehicle. Let them try to struggle to shoot you with your own gun. Next let them bum rush you…let’s see what you would do….

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        • PatrickSMcNally says:

          There are a plethora of people who relish fantasies of reliving the 1960s, both white and black. These are types who supply the fodder to a false cause. But ant honest look at such cases as Trayvon Martin or Michael Brown will bring a rational person back to the conclusion that “Black Crime Matters.” Ideological disposition just causes people to obscure that obvious conclusion.

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        • Chip Bennett says:

          This is not a PR campaign to sanctify imperfect human beings like Trayvon Martin, Mike Brown (neither of whom were killed in self-defense, by the way)…

          Yes, both were killed, justifiably, in self-defense. Perhaps you should spend more time looking at facts and less time being inundated with BLM propaganda.

          …or Eric Garner.

          …who died as a result of the reaction of his own morbidly unhealthy body to the justified use of force to restrain him against his unlawful choice to resist a lawful arrest.

          Their murders were tragedies, but this is about more than any one of them.

          None of the three were murdered.

          This is a reaction to the flagrant disregard this country has for black people specifically and people of color in general.

          And again, that flagrant disregard comes primarily from other black people, who cause the death of some 94% of all black homicide victims.

          What is it, exactly, that you have been “following”? Because it certainly doesn’t appear to be anything even resembling actual facts.

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  33. TKim says:

    Ghost of Gene Debs should be playing canasta with the ghost of Phil Ochs. The only people who need reminding of the value of a black life, as auscitizenmom stated, are blacks themselves.

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