The Washington Times has a strong exclusive story outlining the Hillary Clinton drive for regime change in Libya 2011. The article is quite well presented with never before heard tapes between U.S. officials and Gaddaffi loyalists who were trying to find a diplomatic solution to the crisis.
The article outlines many of the issues our previous research also uncovered, and presents the contrast between the Pentagon position and the State Department during the crisis in Libya.
However, there is one substantive factual flaw when the Washington Times outlines Hillary’s motive for regime change.
The author writes about the motive from the position of the known visible narrative chosen by Hillary to remove Gaddaffi. Which was to avoid a “humanitarian crisis”, similar to the Rwanda massacre.
The R2P (Responsibility to Protect) doctrine was indeed advanced by Hillary Clinton, Samantha Power and Susan Rice; however, that visible motive was a cover for the real impetus which can be found by looking much further back into the Clinton ideology at the Rivkin Project.
The Washington Times article accepts R2P as the motive, it wasn’t.
Indeed, if you think about it in larger context, R2P could never factually form the basis for intervention and regime change because Team Hillary themselves admitted -at the time- they didn’t know the actual players within the opposition forces who would fall under such a protective doctrine.
How could you genuinely call for a protection doctrine without a substantive understanding of the people who you would assign a need of protection for? You cannot.
However, no-one in the Western media ever challenged this false premise. The R2P doctrine was the visible reason given for selling the interventionist path, but it was not the actual motive to explain why Hillary wanted to remove Gaddaffi against the recommendations of the Pentagon and national security apparatus.
The larger Rivkin Project, and the Clinton globalist initiative demand for advancement of multicultural open EU borders was the agenda behind the decision to intervene.
Aside from that aspect the entire article is a must read – SEE IT HERE.
“trying to find a diplomatic solution to the crisis”
What crises, Gaddaffi had already rolled for W.
Wouldn’t call Libya an ally, but definitely in the sphere of influence.
The whole ongoing exercise, typical of this administration, seems orientated towards simply destroying prior administrations efforts for no other purpose than destroying prior administrations efforts.
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Nothing he does seems to work. They only seem to make matters worse.
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Can’t possibly be true, not with the power he commands. We are in denial about his true agenda.
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“19th Nervous Breakdown” lyric? Touche’
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After Reagan showed Ghaddafi “what’s up,” he became a good little player. Libya had not been in the news for years, until now. When you look at all of O’s individual actions in the ME, including OFA getting involved in Israel, it would certainly seem O has one goal: to surround, destabilize and destroy Israel.
Side note: God is not amused!
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God’s invisible army fights for Israel. Obama very well may be hell bent on destroying Israel. God will have the last word in that battle. Obama is an evil man.
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I don’t get the hatred of Israel. It’s such an inspiring country. Israelis are brave, intelligent, productive people who contribute to mankind. They’re also shrewd competitors.
If the goal is simply to destroy what prior administrations have set in place, then these people are dangerous. They want chaos & violence? What a way to misuse power.
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Somewhere within Obama’s inner circle there are some sick minds and motivations.
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Everywhere.
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And in the photo above, there are three of them: Hitlery, Huma and Samantha! Combined, they don’t have the I.Q. of my alpha dog, Aqua Velva, or of my double-alpha cat, CAT-IIIB!!!
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The IQ of Aqua Velva:
Genius
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They are from the government and they are there to help. What could go wrong? USAID is probly in the toxic stew too.
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What if one takes the perspective that Hillary and her “girls” are–at best, females who really don’t like men the way they are…they want to “control men” and will find any method to employ in order to achieve their immediate goals. It’s a “far out there” thought, yet when one looks under all the rocks within their domain you find the dead bugs of past events that really pissed off these “liberated females” who have sought power since their youth.
Their sense of the “ideal male” is who? I suggest a meek metrosexual who poses just right with a reverse seduction attitude. Think back to their school days when “feminism” was all the rage. How did the guys go after such girls, how did they present themselves?
Be sensitive…the mirroring game highly polished by this “generation of narcissists” for all to see in action.
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“…how did they present themselves..” to the radical feminists…
as I recall, the radical feminists swooned over “revolutionaries”
the same sort of thing that Hollywood tries to project as “romantic”.
the malcontent victimized malodorous underdog rebel, with or without a cause, fighting against something…fill in the blank there with any “cause” or “grievance” or “issue” that supports the Left’s various agendas.
its all about…and always all about….the Revolution.
still is.
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these days they = “freedom fighters”.
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Witch Hillary giggled about getting rid of Ghaddafi. Libya has been in chaos ever since. She and her boss know nothing about achieving positive outcomes in international affairs, particularly maintaining stability so that commerce and cultural exchanges can benefit the most people. Under their “leadership” just the opposite occurs. John Lurch Kerry provides comic relief while carrying on the same tradition.
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Kookchinich flies the coop on Judge Janine. Blames the Beest for the libya disaster. Get popcorn. This should help Gowdy take her down. Media will try to cover it up.
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except maybe O is behind this?
tons of political intrigue here.
media might run with it ?
media might be between rocks & hard places w/ this.
get the popcorn is right.
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Temporarily passing on popcorn. Girl Scouts are out selling cookies. I bought five boxes yesterday to start and usually buy one any time I come across them. I think I need a “GS Cookie Anon” support group
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I ordered two boxes of Samoas. Love GS cookies.
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I love them and remember selling them when I was a little girl.
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Not gonna happen. Boehner and his “leadership” team will make sure it doesn’t.
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Also lookin’ especially at you, recently-retired Congressman Mike Rogers. You and your bogus “committee” report. You can run, but you can’t hide.
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MIke Rogers is attempting to “transition” to become a writer of political opinions, thoughts, insights, advice, etc. on a national scale. Bruce Jenner is also attempting a “transition” from male to female, or so the tabloids suggest. They might both have a lot in common!
Rogers is a former agent of the FBI and I think a lawyer by education. He is not, in my opinion, a “Hoover’s man” in any sense of the meaning; he is of the “new breed” of agents post Hoover.
One might argue the FBI is very politicized in today’s world. None would argue that Hoover ran a loose ship; all agents were expected to “behave with the highest standards” as G Men.
I think Rogers has been and will continue to “thread the needle” in his presentations while avoiding exposing “the whole truth and nothing but the truth” in those matters of concern, especially relating to Bengazi.
Hiding behind “national security” only works when such is the truth of the matter. Bengazi is more than just a security issue as it relates to our national government, etc.
Hoover would not be pleased, not at all!
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Absolute must-read. It explains the Benghazi problem. It shows that any ineptness of Republicans on Iraq is vastly exceeded by Obama-Clinton incompetence in Libya. They blew it. Ham almost saved North Africa from radicalization, and Hillary stopped him. Outrageous.
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Blew it up is right. In fact, they set off a nuclear bomb and made fools of our senior military to boot. Then…then…then they tried the repeat in Syria!!!
I want to know what’s happening elsewhere while they cry “squirrel!!!!” in the Levant ’cause they sure haven’t been honest to date.
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DOJ will start an ongoing investigation in 3…2..1.
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Somebody please photoshop the nameplate from “United States” to “Trifecta of F5 Twisters”.
https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/power-rice-rodham-clinton-2.jpg?w=652&h=554
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This is what happens when you put prog looneytics in charge.
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All these subversive domestic enemies and servants of the devil who mean to bring quickly to the world Ezekiel’s War should be delivered on their doorstep an advance version of it made personally just for them.
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the Pentagon tapes will help Gowdy, right ?
starts to show where O and STATE DEPT started to switch sides in Libya.
also shows MB influence in WH.
this gives Gowdy enuff intel/documentation to subpoena and put under oath (!!) Clinton, Petraeus and Panetta.
Qadhafi was willing to abdicate.
state dept/O reject that and arm alQuaida militias instead to overthrow him, an ALLY of ours against islamic terrorism.
Qaghafi didn’t want a “humanitarian crisis” (R2P BS)…guess who did.
veni vidi vici.
she’s as noxious as the Medici’s.
come on Trey Gowdy…..you can do this.
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Should be probable cause to subpoena 7th floor state doc’s. Then will have to wind through the courts as Obama fights it toof and nail. Strange they come out on Stupor Bowl day. The tapes are recorded recollections and should get in. Kookchinich himself has admitted he is on them. Every subpoena will be a battle.
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yep.
hope Gowdy has some good security..if you know what I mean.
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What about that mysterious fire on the 7th floor one Thanksgiving Weekend?
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Will Gowdy run with it?
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info about R2P is described in glorious detail at the UN (!) (“its your world”) website:
http://www.un.org/en/preventgenocide/adviser/responsibility.shtml
“Sovereinty no longer protects States from foreign interference. It is a charge of responsibility that holds States accountable for the welfare of the people.”
accountable…right.
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Hillary hasn’t changed her MO since her early years. The same reasons hhe was fired from the Watergate committee are what she is still doing today. Lies, corruption, Marxism, Alinsky tactics, etc.
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crook of the lowest order.
needs to twist and shout under oath.
wonder what soros is thinking about all of this.
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I can’t recall.
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wonder what soros is DOING about this.
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Counting his money.
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there’s another one who needs to be frog-marched (at the very least) to the end of the plank.
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No worries.
Someone will publish your memoirs
and send a check to your bank account.
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The ‘Benghazi Citizen Commission’ was right all along! I would urge everyone interested in Benghazi; it’s purpose, plans and intents = to read and study it.
This administration including Hillary planned the arab spring before this administration even began – it was that of assuring the muslim brotherhood into power – beginning with Egypt.
Benghazi became the turning point for this administration; Amb Stevens was an active AQ recruiter – working on behalf of this administration to recruit, arm, train and support various jihadi groups to overthrow their next target which was Assad in Syria.
They changed America’s interest to that of the enemies – joining them and activelt placing, arming and training them which also included MANPADS – 30,000 to be correct – which were lost to jihadis after the overthrow of Ghaddafi. Many of these weapons made it to Afghanistan, Syria and Iraq being used by ISIS and Taliban.
The Turkish consul who met with Stevens that night was the facilitator of the transfer of weapons from the CIA depot in Benghazi – there never existed an embassy – to Syria via Turkey.
Petreaus was aware and knew about all these actions and was not willing in the end – after the killing of Stevens and other – to lie and play ball to hide what had taken place. It was for that reason that he faces exposure of his affair which was known long before to the FBI – and before he became CIA director.
They needed to silence him – and they did to this day; the current pending charges and accusation is simply a way to keep him silent and prevent Gowdy to depose him.
Last but not least – looking at current actions – soon after the meeting with the muslim brotherhood and this administration/state department – the muslim brotherhood has once again declared jihad against Egypt – followed by the order of killing al-Sisi – the current president and enemy to this administration. I would urge everyone to observe!
MB Morsi is going to be depost by the Egyptian court on May 16, 20`5 – facing espionage charges among others; he hold leverage and is dangerous to this administration because all bribes received, all bodies buried, all behind the scenes intervening and action of the US in the overthrow of Mubarek is known by him. Where do yiou thing the 6 billion missing dollars – lost by Hillary during her SOS stint – went? Morsi can expose and save himself – if he wants to because he faces death.
This chapter of this administration is not yet finish to write the complete and dangerous cluster***k they have unleashed – including IS!
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100% we have known this for a long time. Anyone with a brain can figger it out. This leaves out the media and Congress. You wrap it all up neatly. They shold all be arressed All we want is an arress.
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All that to overthrow Assad? Why? Because he runs a secular (albeit brutal) gvt that’s friendly to RU and IR? Is it to get at the pipelines, the RUs or the IRs, all the above? Is it a Sunni move on the Shia? A Rosetta Stone would be handy.
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If “R2P” was their public justification, let’s review how well that turned out for Libya and North Africa.
Ongoing civil war in Libya with Islamist victory; thousands killed, Western embassies/influence forced out; government collapse. Check.
Libyan arms including manpads transferred to Syria, fueling rise of ISIS. Untold atrocities. Check.
Libyan small arms flood North Africa fueling Islamic rampages in Mali & Chad. French military intervention required. Check.
Libyan arms fuel orgy of rape, murder, anti-Christian genocide by Islamist Boko Haram terrorist army, in Niger, Nigeria, etc., destabilizing entire region. Thousands murdered, countless women and girls kidnapped/raped, forced into conversions and Islamic marriages. Check.
So how’d that R2P turn out? Heck ‘uv a job, Hillary.
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Your argument is strong.
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Reblogged this on A Conservative Christian Man.
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Caption the photo of Hitlery, Huma & Sam: “So, is Powers high, or did she just do something to screw Israel?”
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Yes, “the girls” (Rice, Powers & Clinton) wanted to depose that bad “guy” Gaddaffi, but who had her thumb on the narcissist metrosexual … that could make it happen? Valerie Jarrett? Which (Iranian born) anti-capitalist most wanted to destroy modern patriarchal western society? Valerie Jarrett? And, why did President “lead from behind” acquiesce … so now we have an Islamic State?
I’ll give you a hint. Remember when Barry flamed out of corporate America and ended up moving to Illinois … where he ran against the Chicago Machine’s Bobby Rush? Yeah? Well, which “Machine” cog was sent to “contact” this silver tongued, self described Nigerian son (by offering his nobody fiancee a $250,000 Machine “job”)? Was it the only daughter of a famous Chicago doctor who just happened to be doing DNA testing on (black) University of Chicago employees … testing which could positively determined whether some law “professor” had a fake father?
OK, so now … ask yourself … just what is it that qualifies Valerie Jarrett to sit in on EVERY important White House policy meeting?
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She’s the Queen Bee in the White House. My guess is, she’s the brains behind Obama. Michaelle may get to boss Barry around at night, but all day long it’s Valerie. Nobody crosses her.
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Obama’s Father is Frank Marshall Davis, head of the communist party of Hawaii and lifelong best friend of Grandpa and Grandma Dunham As he gets older, Obama looks more and more like his Father Davis and less like his Mother.
There are plenty of pictures of Davis on the web, check it out. Obama especially resembles his Father when he is looking down and his chin is down.
One of his Dunham uncles was an active leftist commie associate who was still working at the University of Chicago when Obama moved there. At the time the national headquarters of the communist party of the USA was in downtown Chicago on state street.
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Another test
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A small group of government employees have destabilized three different countries and cause massive suffering and loss of life. How can they not be given a short walk to the scaffolding.
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While I agree with you, Triage, I wonder if we can even have such as thing as a war crimes trial in the absence of a declared war.
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IMHO the primary reason that the Obama administration – aided and abetted by Al Sharpton (Obama’s primary advisor on racial issues) and the rest of the black grievance industry and intentionally distorted coverage by the liberal media – has stoked racial tensions surrounding the justified killings of Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown and Eric Garner is to protect Obama from impeachment.
Their aim was to convince Congress (the quintessential white male authority figures) that any attempt to “take down” Obama (an unarmed black man), whether justified or not, would be met with irrational rage – including massive riots, looting, vandalism, protests, etc. from the black community and their white liberal enablers – and all of the faux outrage at the RACIST REPUBLICANS that the MSM can muster.
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Hillary’s comment over Gaddafi’s death: “We came, we saw, he died”
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Okay, I’ll be the one to take us there:
My lord, look at that picture of the three darlings of the left.
Is it any wonder that so many (most?) men of the left are gay?
Seriously, when considering the right’s representatives such as Palin, Bachman, Blackburn, etc vs the troll trifecta above – ugh.
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