Gruber Goes To Washington – Video Segments of Jonathan Gruber Testimony…

Trey Gowdy – Did you apologize because you “said it”, or did you “meant it”?

Jim Jordan – How much were you paid?

Jason Chaffetz – I don’t want to talk to your attorney, I want to talk to you.

Elijah Cummings – Nothing to see here, move along, move along…

Jim Jordan – Expanded Version

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41 Responses to Gruber Goes To Washington – Video Segments of Jonathan Gruber Testimony…

  1. Sharon says:

    Thank you for breaking these out, Sundance. The hearings probably won’t change anything but thank you for putting the rot into the sunlight in bite-sized pieces like this.

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    • BertDilbert says:

      I do not actually understand this whole proceeding. Gruber has a right to free speech and politicians lie all the time. While Gruber is saying he said those things to make himself appear smarter, these type of proceedings are held to make our politicians look smarter. As for the voter being stupid, hey Obama was elected for a second term.

      I doubt they are going to claw back any money he received and do nothing about the Obama care legislation so it is probably just all a waste of time.

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  2. QuadGMoto says:

    I only watched the first video. His defense is “I didn’t mean what I said. I didn’t mean what I said. I didn’t mean what I said.”

    So, Mr. Gruber, why should we believe that you mean what you’re saying now? After all, you have just claimed that you lied repeatedly about the same thing. Today, in front of a hostile audience, he has far more motive to lie now than he did in front of those numerous friendly audiences.

    I play with a brass quintet. As part of our concerts, I regularly stand in front of the audience and say things, often making the same point, usually in slightly different words, just as Mr. Gruber did. There is no way to repeatedly make the exact same point in public, without thinking about it … a lot.

    This duplicitous caricature of Sgt. Schultz knew exactly what he was saying when he said it. He is only saying “he didn’t mean it” now because he would rather have the law than not. Because if he stood his ground, he would kill what matters more to him than the truth.

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  3. Les says:

    Why are they focusing on his statements instead of the truth behind them?

    They dropped the ball. They let him get away it. He took his licks for bad public relations but is keeping the money. Not a bad day’s work for Gruber.

    Stupid won again.

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    • springstreet says:

      He not only got to keep the money (and his MIT job), but no one challenged him on his (videotaped) real agenda … forever destroying employer sponsored health care.
      He a single payer socialist and not sorry about the methods (lies) that he uses.

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      • TheLastDemocrat says:

        “He a single payer socialist and not sorry about the methods (lies) that he uses.”
        -Maybe – I would like to see the evidence for this idea.

        Here is the evidence that Gruber at least understands that the expansion of public insurance can steal business away from the private insurance market. This is called “crowd-out,” and Gruber is well-established, with these two highly recognized articles, as an expert on the topic of crowd-out, and crowd-out in health insurance:

        Cutler, D., Gruber, J., 1996. Does public health insurance crowdout private insurance? Quarterly Journal of Economics 111, 391–430.

        Jonathan Gruber, Kosali Simon. Crowd-out 10 years later: Have recent public insurance expansions crowded out private health insurance? Journal of Health Economics 27 (2008) 201–217.

        You can find both in pdf on the web, if you are willing to wade through a weighty economics paper.

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      • Betty says:

        He used his algorithm to reverse engineer the health care bill so that it would get passed the CBO’s scoring, a process that resulted in the “tortured language” . I hadn’t realized the nasty little weasel worked for the CBO till 2011, who was in a better position to help hoodwink the American people. Representative Lummis tries to bring it out but is frustrated by Gruber and goes on to tell her story to that Tavenner lady.

        I agree they these guys missed the boat by “focusing on his statements instead of the truth behind them”. The plot to forever destroy employer sponsored health care needs to be exposed. And making it cheaper for employers to pay the government a fine then to provide health care is really congress robbing from us to take for themselves.

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    • yankeeintx says:

      Issa at least got him to admit that everything he said was true, even if it was stupid to say it.

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    • That was actually what stood out for me too. Committee acts PO’d and the respondant on the panel recites a mantra repeatedly. That he keeps his money – which was actually for accounting obfuscation of the numbers, not his “model”, is far secondary to the fact that they let him get away with saying over and over that he was sorry and not digging deeper. Let me go on record as saying I’m all for waterboarding or extreme coercion tactics, if you get my drift.
      If you like your insurance you can keep your insurance, if you like your docter… and Gruber is sorry and trying to make himself sound smarter. The Committee had a great opportunity since he couldn’t be covered under executive privilege.

      Again, they blew it. If a narcissist lies to you and continues to lie to you in the face of irrefutable evidence,and you have no redress, where do you go with the obvious culpability of the narcissist?????

      And THIS is the core of how Obama is moving forward in his coup.

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  4. Daniel says:

    Given the already apparent economic hardship resulting at all levels of this Obamacare implementation, I’d say this MIT “expert” needs to be stripped of his credentials.

    But as far as the Republicans dropping the ball? I would venture to suggest that many in the republican leadership are supporting the Democrat agenda. I point to the $1bn slice of the budget to go to illegal immigrants among other things including blocking any and all impeachment proceedings.

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  5. myopiafree says:

    Elijah complains about all the had word he did – cramming it down Republican throats, and now Gruber has screwed it up.

    http://www.caintv.com/elijah-cummings-we-spent-a-yea

    Pity. A law passed on a pack of lies – is not a law – for very long.

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  6. AdukeLAXobserver says:

    Jim Jordan should have asked was it more than a million? Then was it more than two. And so on.

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  7. Shannon says:

    I had to laugh when Trey Gowdy mentioned a “very obscure television show….”. I wondered if he meant a local Boston station or what. Then a couple minutes later Gowdy tells us: MSNBC.

    He may think we’re all stupid but there’s not a person in this country who believes he made all those comments trying to make himself seem smarter. Either he or his attorney were smart enough though to realize if he falls on his own sword it should help make this whole thing go away.

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  8. lorac says:

    Lands sakes couldn’t they have give Gruber water to wash away that white crap on the corners of his mouth. Dry mouth cause he is such a liar!! He doesn’t remember how much he was paid…I call that BS.

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  9. John Galt says:

    Sounds like he needs a tax audit.

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  10. Jim says:

    I watched the whole thing today. I wish they would have asked him if he had met Sebelius or Pelosi. Hopefully when he is back they will hammer him. Sorry to see Issa go as I always liked him.

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  11. Jim says:

    I also thought it was funny that his name placard said “Mr. Gruber Ph. D.” But during slides shown of him speaking his lies it refers to him as Dr. Gruber. What a liar who was so coached by the current administration.

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  12. zephyrbreeze says:

    Gruber Was Gloating. To Gloat: “to contemplate or dwell on one’s own success or another’s misfortune with smugness or malignant pleasure”

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  13. Sharon says:

    At the hearings today:

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    • I just posted this to Congresswoman Lummis’ Facebook page:

      Dear Congresswoman Lummis, thank you for sharing your real life experience with ObamaCare. I’m so very sorry for the loss of your young husband in October. This loss is the most painful, difficult event you will ever have to deal with. Your poignant, tragic statement yesterday interjected a human face and human suffering onto ObamaCare and its failure.

      Jonathan Gruber is a sociopath, with a superiority complex. He describes his insults as glibness? That’s another insult, showing he STILL thinks we’re stupid. They (those who authored the healthcare bill) committed fraud and engaged in a criminal conspiracy to obscure the truth. How dare one red cent of our tax dollars go to pay this dishonorable man! A tenured MIT Economics Professor doesn’t know how much money he was paid by taxpayers? How absurd….. and untruthful.

      God bless you, maam. The grieving process you’ve just embarked on will be long. At some point it does stop hurting so much, but it will be quite a long time, years really. You will be in my thoughts and prayers.

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  14. Sharon says:

    They should have asked for his suggestions on how to cure the stupidity of American voters. Just ask that simple question and then stop talking. Forget having him apologize: see if he’s willing to followup and be the solution to the problem he identified.

    Actually I’m thinking it’s a given that the American voter is stupid at this point. Look who’s running the country.

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    • Betty says:

      I believe that a whole lot of dirty dealings and election fraud went into Obama’s re-election in 2012. The whole government was weaponized against conservative groups and donors after their huge victories in 2010.

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  15. BigMamaTEA says:

    I just like to watch this little weasel squirm!!!

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  16. 1hear2learn says:

    I watched the hearing today and the cspan call in segment immediately following. During that call in segment where folks call into different numbers based on political affiliations there were perhaps 10 calls (my guesstimate), all but 1 caller was appalled at the answers provided to the committee today; only one democrat caller took issue with the committee purpose/questioning which is rarely the case in our current political climate. You can usually assume callers to fall into their parties “line”. This is very encouraging to me that even those callers typically aligned with Democrat’s are not buying into this administration’s BS. And some comments were not limiting their criticism to Obamacare, but to the multitude of scandals. While this was a small sampling, it gave me great hope that indeed folks are waking up to the progressive/liberal ideology. I just hope that it is not only tied to Obama administration, but instead to entire Democrat leadership and that Conservative leaders take this opportunity to educate the dissatisfied Democrat voters into understanding conservatism and that it not this evil right wing conspiracy those in MSM would have them to believe. We need conservative leaders to talk over MSM, like Reagan was able to, and reach those voters.

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  17. 1hear2learn says:

    I think Gruber made himself out to basically be a “prostitution whore” willing to degrade himself in front of the world suggesting he made repeated claims on the crafting of ACA and it’s messaging/sales pitch out of a complete vacuum based on nothing but pure conjecture on his part. An MIT economist that was tapped to assist both Romney and Obama administrations, and several state governments, to develop “extremely detailed, complex, economic models”, but is just too stupid to possibly understand the actual politics involved to pass those laws and cannot even recall making the statements, or the why / how he developed those unfortunate repeated “off the cuff glib” remarks. He’s just your average uninformed citizen that knows not what he speaks of that just happens to also be an MIT economic professor that speaks to other economists on ACA at conferences. Yep. Too stupid really to ever discuss political matters that he couldn’t possibly understand, but an expert at economic modeling and was paid millions to educate those so very bright professional politicians on how ACA would work/impact their constituents with no regard at all as to how said politicians would/could/should sell the end product, using his modelling forecasts.

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  18. doodahdaze says:

    By now anyone who did not have insurance and needed to get free health care has done so. They will drop the insurance now if they no longer need the free stuff.

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  19. I love it! An MIT economic expert professor who can’t add and doesn’t know how much money he’s made from federal and state taxpayers. Unbelievable!

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  20. justfactsplz says:

    The committee went all Wolverine on Gruber and reamed him a new one.

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  21. zephyrbreeze says:

    The elites who mock us relentlessly behind closed doors, became brazen and mocked us in plain sight. Youtube spread the word,

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    • moondrops says:

      An accidental admission by Elijah Cummings: will be warning his staff to choose their words carefully…(in case a truth slips out.)

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  22. Gruber is a nerd’s nerd, for sure. You can hear it in his “whiny” voice. What I find particularly fascinating is his pathetic attempt at sincerity as explains that his comments were “glib” and an attempt to make himself “appear smarter” (right – because a PhD in economics who teaches at MIT needs to “appear smarter”) and then maintains that smirk at times, acting intentionally obtuse.

    This guy is a piece of work.

    I do love to hear Gowdy taking him down a few pegs, though. It’s ear candy at it’s finest.

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    • Betty says:

      I was disappointed with Representative Gowdy, and more so tonight on Greta when he said Ambassador Stevens was in Benghazi be cause he loved the people of Benghazi, and had met with the fella from Turkey because they were just friends. Honestly he sounded like Susan Rice to me.

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