CRS Strategic Retreat – New York Times Article Mike Brown Shooting – Darren Wilson Account Backed With Forensics…

Here we go….. this also explains the Kevin Seltzer article release. 

Step-by-Step.  Strategic, planned, methodical, retreat.

Representatives from the Federal DOJ Civil Rights Division, The Community Relations Service (CRS), “Peacekeepers”, are beginning the process of slowly deflating the vitriol. To avoid riots and try to stem violent expectations from not gaining Grand Jury indictment, the CRS is leaking (strategic dissemination) information to the New York Times.

wilson 1WASHINGTON — The police officer who fatally shot Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., two months ago has told investigators that he was pinned in his vehicle and in fear for his life as he struggled over his gun with Mr. Brown, according to government officials briefed on the federal civil rights investigation into the matter.

The officer, Darren Wilson, has told the authorities that during the scuffle, Mr. Brown reached for the gun. It was fired twice in the car, according to forensics tests performed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The first bullet struck Mr. Brown in the arm; the second bullet missed.

The forensics tests showed Mr. Brown’s blood on the gun, as well as on the interior door panel and on Officer Wilson’s uniform. Officer Wilson told the authorities that Mr. Brown had punched and scratched him repeatedly, leaving swelling on his face and cuts on his neck.

This is the first public account of Officer Wilson’s testimony to investigators, but it does not explain why, after he emerged from his vehicle, he fired at Mr. Brown multiple times.

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It contradicts some witness accounts, and it will not calm those who have been demanding to know why an unarmed man was shot a total of six times. Mr. Brown’s death continues to fuel anger and sometimes-violent protests.

In September, Officer Wilson appeared for four hours before a St. Louis County grand jury, which was convened to determine whether there is probable cause that he committed a crime. Legal experts have said that his decision to testify was surprising, given that it was not required by law. But the struggle in the car may prove to be a more influential piece of information for the grand jury, one that speaks to Officer Wilson’s state of mind, his feeling of vulnerability and his sense of heightened alert when he killed Mr. Brown.

Police officers typically have wide latitude to use lethal force if they reasonably believe that they are in imminent danger.

The officials said that while the federal investigation was continuing, the evidence so far did not support civil rights charges against Officer Wilson. To press charges, the Justice Department would need to clear a high bar, proving that Officer Wilson willfully violated Mr. Brown’s civil rights when he shot him.

The account of Officer Wilson’s version of events did not come from the Ferguson Police Department or from officials whose activities are being investigated as part of the civil rights inquiry.

In the many accounts of Mr. Brown’s death, the most potent imagery has come from his final moments, when he and Officer Wilson faced each other on Canfield Drive. Some witnesses have said that he appeared to be surrendering with his hands in the air as he was hit with the fatal gunshots. Others have said that Mr. Brown was moving toward Officer Wilson when he was killed.

Few witnesses had perfect vantage points for the fight in the car, which occurred just after noon on Aug. 9. Mr. Brown was walking down the middle of the street with a friend, Dorian Johnson, when Officer Wilson stopped his S.U.V., a Chevy Tahoe, to order them to the sidewalk.

Within seconds, the encounter turned into a physical struggle, as the officer and Mr. Brown became entangled through the open driver’s-side window.

tiffany mitchell and piaget crenshawOne witness, Piaget Crenshaw, said later that while she could not see clearly, it appeared Mr. Brown was “trying to flee.” Another witness, Tiffany Mitchell, said that she had watched with alarm from a close distance and that as the two briefly struggled, “Michael was pulling off and the cop was trying to pull him in.”

Michael T. Brady, who lives nearby, said that the altercation was “something strange,” but that he could not tell exactly what was happening. “I can’t say whether he was punching the officer or whatever,” Mr. Brady said. “But something was going on in that window, and it didn’t look right.”

However, Mr. Johnson’s description of the scuffle is detailed and specific, and directly contradicts what Officer Wilson has told the authorities.

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Mr. Johnson has said that Officer Wilson was the aggressor, backing up his vehicle and opening the door, which hit Mr. Johnson and Mr. Brown and then bounced back.

“He just reached his arm out the window and grabbed my friend around his neck, and he was trying to choke my friend,” Mr. Johnson told reporters after the shooting. “He was trying to get away, and the officer then reached out and grabbed his arm to pull him inside the car.”

Officer Wilson then drew his weapon, Mr. Johnson said, and threatened to shoot.

“In the same moment, the first shot went off,” he said. “We looked at him. He was shot. There was blood coming from him. And we took off running.”

Never, Mr. Johnson said, did Mr. Brown reach for the officer’s weapon.

The officials briefed on the case said the forensic evidence gathered in the car lent credence to Officer Wilson’s version of events. According to his account, he was trying to leave his vehicle when Mr. Brown pushed him back in. Once inside the S.U.V., the two began to fight, Officer Wilson told investigators, and he removed his gun from the holster on his right hip.

Chief Jon Belmar of the St. Louis County Police Department has said in interviews that Officer Wilson was “pushed back into the car” by Mr. Brown and “physically assaulted.” The department is conducting the local investigation into Mr. Brown’s death.

Spokesmen for the F.B.I. and the Justice Department declined to comment.

In an interview, Benjamin L. Crump, a lawyer for the Brown family, dismissed Officer Wilson’s account of what happened in the S.U.V. that day.  (read more)

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190 Responses to CRS Strategic Retreat – New York Times Article Mike Brown Shooting – Darren Wilson Account Backed With Forensics…

  1. canadacan says:

    I am Darren Wilson

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  2. woohoowee says:

    Whip ’em up and let ’em down easy. Job security. Defund CRS – they’re a menace to a peaceful society.

    Liked by 17 people

  3. truecoiors says:

    The 4th paragraph of this article says that the scuffle inside the car does not explain why Darren Wilson would fire his weapon outside the car.

    Ummm…. hello! Anyone who is crazy enough to punch a cop in his car and try to get his gun is a threat to all of society. At that point, Darren Wilson had an OBLIGATION to subdue Mike Brown in order to protect the citizens of that community.

    Lethal force was justified.

    TC

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    • myopiafree says:

      Hi True – 100 % agreement !! If you are stupid enough to “punch out” a police officer in his car – you better run, and keep on running. If you turn around, and move TOWARDS the man you almost killed, you have figure he will empty his pistol on you.
      Justified homocide. Case closed. Thug, and idiot riots to follow.

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    • Yakmaster says:

      Wilson was obligated to get out of his car and ARREST Brown for assaulting a police officer and probably attempted deadly assault on a police officer. What part of that doesn’t that idiot reporter understand? Brown was resisting by fleeing when Wilson ordered him to stop. And then, to top it off, he turned and confronted Wilson and again failed to STOP. As someone said in a previous thread, many Mike Brown supporters act as if they’re “dumb as a stump.” Geesh!

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      • kkdgrace says:

        The key phrase there is “idiot” reporter. There’s your answer.

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      • Many MB supporters act as if they’re ” dumb as a stump ” They are not acting Yakmaster

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      • mike says:

        The article never said that WILSON didn’t explain why he kept shooting. It only indicated that the limited leaked information didn’t explain it. It’s a certainty that in four hours, he was grilled on that subject. This is just damage control. They are letting out the bad news (for the Brown camp) a little at a time. The “it does not explain” line was put in just to give them some hope and delay the rioting.

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    • Irish Eyes says:

      Their resistance to facts is astounding! He keeps repeating that “witness” accounts contradict Wilson’s, nevermind that the forensic evidence supports his version. And they’ll keep saying that forever. Evidence means nothing to their agenda.

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  4. YayYay says:

    ok so do we tune in tonight? which feed should we watch?

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  5. sundance says:

    Those who follow the way the CRS rolls will see all of the indicators of the strategy.

    • The geographic indicator from the article is “Washington”
    • The substance released is specifically constructed toward the media narrative of the events.
    • The target audience is the consuming public, and the haters.
    • The witnesses mentioned are the “media witnesses”.
    • Note no mention of the “construction workers”, or “Kevin Seltzer”, or any other “manufactured witness”.
    • No other witnesses outlined who would have spoken to the Grand Jury.
    • New information regarding the shots in vehicle speak to the original releases now substantiated.
    • Shot in vehicle explaining the forearm wound.
    • No federal violation of civil rights.

    The only things that would have made the strategic release more obvious is if Grande Lum had been given a byline for authorship.

    In essence, the fiasco is all but over. No GJ indictment. Just need to find a way to avoid the riots etc.

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    • ackbarsays says:

      So, in effect, the CRS is doing a GOOD thing, because these stories are part of a strategy to reduce the anger and get some truth out there so that it can percolate before the announcement that Wilson won’t be charged.

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      • I am seriously wondering if this whole debacle led to a schism in DOJ, from which “truth-tellers” won the day, with the Holderites internally discredited.

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      • sundance says:

        The CRS is actually supposed to play this role. The problem is over the years the CRS has become more like an advocate for the BGI.

        They claim they are diffusing a situation by providing an outlet for frustration. An outlet they control. However, they actually end up facilitating nonsense.

        In Sanford FL it was the CRS who purchased and rented the audio visual needs for the rallies etc. The CRS paid for the busses for the Dream Defenders etc.

        They claim they are providing a controlled outlet. However, they continually cross the line and actually facilitate racial grievances.

        However, when the racial grievance is based on inauthentic claims, even the CRS eventually has to pull the plug and tell them the parties over – time to go home.

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      • Worc1 says:

        No, the CRS isn’t doing a GOOD thing. The CRS went into Ferguson as fire starters, to rile up low information voters to riot and burn down the city, to register and then to vote. The GJ must be wrapping up and they now are seeking to be on the right side of the story, so as not to look as bad as they now do around the country.

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      • woohoowee says:

        I respectfully disagree. Sundance’s sixth bullet point re: new info regarding shots in vehicle substantiating the original release, were well known to FBI and DOJ from the beginning. If their intentions were good, that info would have been released from the beginning.

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      • lovelyd24 says:

        Imagine Goober, an arsonist and Neville Chamberlain had a love child, you would call that child CRS.

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    • skeptiktank says:

      “Just need to find a way to avoid the riots etc.” Just wait until the middle of winter to announce the decision. They won’t go out in the cold.

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    • lepanto says:

      Washington?
      “The geographic indicator from the article is “Washington””
      Right. This little fact caught my eye. Why is all of this information about the grand jury in Missouri coming from “Washington”? The article cites unnamed “government officials” as the source of all of this information. How interesting.

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    • Chewbarkah says:

      I tend to agree, but wonder: As November 4 passes and we head into winter, the political value of angst-in-the-hood diminishes. There appeared to be a local strategy to delay announcing GJ results as long as possible. Is leaking this now a counter-play to fire up the oppressed peoples, to get the riots started pre-election, or at least get certain elements motivated to vote?

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  6. ackbarsays says:

    Now, if the NY Times would just start using the word “witness” instead of witness whenever they mention Piaget Crenshaw, Tiffany Mitchell, or Dorian Johnston, I’d be happy. Or, they could use the words “alleged witness.”

    i.e. …spoke to “witness” Piaget Crenshaw instead of …spoke to witness Piaget Crenshaw
    Or ….spoke to alleged witness Piaget Crenshaw

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    • bogeytct says:

      Considering Dorian Johnson gave an account so ludicrous it may as well have included Elvis, I don’t see how anyone could call him a witness.

      Someone needs to reenact his version of events just to show how ridiculous it is when seen live.

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    • Gary says:

      I think it would be hilarious if the print media began using quotes when describing these “witnesses”. But I’d like to see it go a little further. On air newscasters should begin using air quotes when they say “witness’ in reference to Crenshaw, Mitchell, and Johnson.

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    • Scott Angell says:

      You might think they could distinguish between “Television News Witness” and testimony given before a grand jury.

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  7. pookiesmommie says:

    I truly hope that the unnamed witness from the article the other night was NOT Kevin Seltzer like Sundance keeps implying because if it was it will only add fuel to the fire of police cover-up. Kevin clearly did NOT witness the attack or shooting as he stated in mid Aug from the latimes article.
    http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-ferguson-michael-brown-shooting-witness-video-20140815-story.html

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    • sundance says:

      Why would it add “fuel to the fire”?

      Everyone knows a Kevin Seltzer. In the Trayvon/Zimmerman case it was “Jerry Counelis”…

      These are people who try to inject their face in the spotlight because they want some form of attention. It’s not a grand conspiracy, just a weird psychology of some people who demand attention to make their pathetic lives seem more valuable.

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      • pookiesmommie says:

        So you’re absolutely positive there was not a real witness that told the truth to the GJ then told his/her story to the news the other night? It had to be completely made up by Kevin the night before the DOJ came out with no civil rights violation….Sundance, you truly believe there were no witnesses that backed up the officers version of events, that backed up what we found here, there was no one, so they used Kevin….really? I disagree and believe that the witness name was given to the newspaper by someone in the DOJ or CRS so that it could get out before DOJ came out tonight.

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        • sundance says:

          Why are you attaching such things to my position?

          I’m pretty sure there were more than one witness who totally substantiated officer Darren Wilson. However, the person who spoke to the STL reporter was not one of them.

          The person who spoke to the STL reporter was Kevin Seltzer, trying desperately to regain some form of fame and/or recognition.

          That doesn’t mean there were not other REAL witnesses who saw and concurred with Wilson’s statements, and who also spoke to investigators and the Grand Jury. Indeed I’m pretty sure there were several. Just NOT Kevin Seltzer; he’s a fibber of grand proportions…

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          • justfactsplz says:

            Indeed there are real witnesses. The first day or two the chief of police said there were about a dozen witnesses that corroborated Officer Wilson’s account of things if I recollect correctly.

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            • YayYay says:

              that’s correct

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              • justfactsplz says:

                That stuck in my mind immediately and that’s when I became Darren Wilson.

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                • John VI says:

                  I remember an article about how the police were screening witnesses. SInce backup arrived so quickly and they spread their vehicles out around the area so fast, any witness that couldn’t accurately pick out Darren wilsons vehicle in the scrum was automatically assumed to be an after the fact witness. The witnesses that COULD pick out officer wilsons SUV was determined to be a credible witness, who could be more relied on to have seen the actual event. This screening technique was only available to police because they didn’t release any reliable info to the crump/parks evidence manufacturing machine.

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                • justfactsplz says:

                  The way that the police handled this is commendable. They didn’t give any loopholes for Crump to get his hands on. They were smarter than those that handled the Zimmerman case.

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  8. lovelyd24 says:

    Crump is already saying that Wilson’s word is not gospel.

    Amazing.

    It looks like a wash for the crowd. And the truth will trickle out now that the World Series won’t be jeopardized by marauding idiots.

    I wonder if Frowny Brown has Officer Wilson’s skin under his nails.

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    • Gary says:

      Crump even says that it doesn’t matter what happened in the SUV because Brown ran away.

      It’s the same sort of reasoning that people use when they say that a robbery never took place at the Ferguson Market. If the manager says that the store wasn’t robbed then Brown didn’t rob it. Never mind the witness intimidation that took place when the QuickTrip was burned down and “Snitches get Stitches” was spray painted on the wall.

      It’s the same sort of reasoning that people use to say that Lovell Mixom wasn’t a rapist. He was killed before he could stand trial and since he’s innocent until proven guilty in a court of law then Mixom was innocent of rape since he can never stand trial.

      It’s the same sort of reasoning that people use to say that Myers was shot down without justification. If he wasn’t profiled he wouldn’t have shot at the officer.

      It’s just stupid to debate.

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    • BobNoxious says:

      It’s a wonder that he still has a law license.

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      • TrickleUpPolitics says:

        Having heard him speak, I am surprised that he ever was admitted to the bar. The guy sounds like an uneducated racist back waters jerk.

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        • bikermailman says:

          Don’t be surprised. Over 20 years ago, I had extensive dealings with an attorney (black, and the matter had nothing to do with anything racial). With my brother going through law school recently at that time, I knew how hard it is. Or is supposed to be. This woman was as big a twit as you’ve ever seen, and I as a layman with an interest in law knew more than she did. She was literally a laughing stock in the legal community around here. I was a young pup when I learned up close the dangers of affirmative action. Now I’m middle aged and see it at the very top. Sigh.

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    • Lottacats says:

      Crump sure don’t speak the gospel! LOL

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    • boutis says:

      The World Series may be the reason that this information was released now. Timing it to tamp down the “idiots” would let the series go on relatively unimpeded and not cost ticket sales, mayhem with the sports media, players and fans, etc. The BGI ruining a world series in support of a thug, right before an election, would be a disaster. So the Cards winning the pennant brings it to a ignominious and somewhat abrupt end.

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      • boutis says:

        What am I thinking. The Cards lost. The opposite happened has happened. Without a World series to screw up and make spectacles of themselves their audience has shrunken. Sheez.

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  9. texan59 says:

    Keep in mind that the Just-us brutha’s don’t need no stinkin’ facts. 🙄

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  10. Dixie Darling says:

    After the scuffle in the car and Brown trying to get the officer’s gun, wouldn’t the officer have been trying to apprehend him?……for attempted murder……or something?

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    • Lucille says:

      Unfortunately, Dixie, this crowd thinks that since the “child” was running away, the officer should have simply let the poor little one run, gotten back in his car and driven off like nothing had happened. After all, the child only had his fists and the officer had a big, big gun that went bang, bang…unfair and unequal weapons, doncha no.

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      • deqwik2 says:

        I saw a post today that said that very thing. They said the cop car must have been out of gas otherwise why couldn’t DW just drive down the street & wait on back up.

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      • Betty says:

        Beyond the fact that Officer “Darren Wilson had an OBLIGATION to subdue Mike Brown in order to protect the citizens of that community.”, he also knew Mr. Brown was wounded and needed medical attention.

        Officer Darren Wilson is a true hero.

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      • 1stgoblyn says:

        I left a reply to this but my puter is acting up and it did not post here where it should be. Way down the page.

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  11. Scott Angell says:

    Eric Holder strikes out again! No wonder he’s resigning. Crump’s got himself some dead prison inmates in Florida so he’s probably finished with St. Louis and is going to fish in the same pond he caught the big on in before.

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  12. barbi says:

    No leaks at all about the final toxicology tests on Brown.

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  13. BobNoxious says:

    If the grand jury follows the law this case is OVER! While I’m still saddened by MBs death and what Wilson has to life with (so there are no winners), I hope this can be used as a teachable moments for MSM- never again should they aid and abet and promote the power of the lawless mob over Doing thier own independent fact finding. CNN was the most shamful.

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  14. Mr. Izz says:

    Is it ok to hate someone?

    I hate Benjamin Crump.

    He’s everything that is wrong with America… especially lawyers. He’s a money-grubbing liar, cheat, manipulator, and racist. He has so many ties with the media, government, and legal system that he does what he wants, says what he wants, and is never reprimanded or disciplined. He has been completely in the wrong now in two “high profile” cases. The next time won’t be any different. The only thing I can guarantee is that there will be a next time. I guess that’s what you get with a severely biased and overwhelming liberal media and judicial system.

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    • stormyeyesc says:

      You left out AL & JJ By the way, are they in the witness program with Dorian? Awfully quiet

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      • 1stgoblyn says:

        JJ has moved on to greener pastures. He went to Dallas to help the family of Thomas Eric Duncan grub money from us taxpayers by filing a lawsuit claiming racial discrimination. He was a black man and didn’t get medical treatment by the white, racist medical system to save his life.

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    • kathyca says:

      It’s way more than two and his ties to the media aren’t why he gets away with it.

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    • justice099 says:

      To be fair, though, Crump wouldn’t exist without a willing audience.

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    • georgiafl says:

      “He’s a money-grubbing liar, cheat, manipulator, and racist.”
      …and those are just his good points. There is a far darker side of Benjamin Crump.

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    • georgiafl says:

      There is a righteous hatred – hatred of evil and that’s what you are feeling. It’s OK to hate evil as long as you watch your own heart, soul and actions.

      See Psalm 139:19-24

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    • realitycheck says:

      “There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs — partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.”
      “I am afraid that there is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make themselves prominent before the public. “ – Booker T Washington 1911

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  15. carterzest says:

    Drip, drip, drip, drip, drip

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  16. dubious says:

    Interesting that this is leaked the day after the Cards lose their chance at a World Series.

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    • stellabella25 says:

      Being local, we’ve all placed our money on them waiting until the WS was over to announce anything, let alone a GJ decision. There was way too much money to lose for the MLB & St. Louis if all hell broke out.

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  17. sundaybu says:

    Protestors now: Give us our sht! Who shuts sht down? We shut sh*t down!
    Nice, I see about 15 (?) of them “marching” beating a drum. Random shouts like “Shut it down!”

    Now blocking a car….

    http://www.ustream.tv/z

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    • 1stgoblyn says:

      They blocked traffic for a while, terrorized people at a Shop n Save who saw them coming and locked the doors, went to Faraci’s Pizza but they were already closed for the night, started a fire in a trash can but not on film so they could say it wasn’t them. I was proud of FPD officers who did not take the bait.

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  18. truecoiors says:

    Regarding Crump’s comments about how “no matter what happened in the car, Michael Brown ran away from him”……

    That claim already been disproven by the autopsy report. It shows that Brown was facing the officer when he was shot, NOT running away.

    TC

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  19. LTC8K6 says:

    So, what does this say about that gunshot audio recording? Two shots were fired, then the rest of the shots.

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    • Gary says:

      The recording was just 12 seconds long and captured 7 seconds of gun shot audio. The shots at the SUV weren’t recorded. It would have taken more than 12 seconds to get from the SUV to the spot of the shooting.

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      • LTC8K6 says:

        The recording that was released was 12 seconds long…

        How long was the whole recording? 🙂

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        • Gary says:

          12 seconds.

          Glide sends short video messages. Like texting but with video.

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          • Gary says:

            It may have been a little longer than 12 seconds. But it didn’t start earlier than when he starts to say “You’re so pretty”. The guy says something else – along the lines of “I was just looking at your videos and just remembering”. That may have been the extent of it.

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            • Gary says:

              The guys at Glide verified that the recording began at 12:02:14. The first shot that can be heard is a few seconds after that. It couldn’t have recorded the shots at the SUV because it would take about 13 – 15 seconds to get from the SUV to the spot of the shooting. I can’t remember if they said when it ended but there’s no reason to listen beyond the shots fired. When the guy says “You are pretty, you’re so fine. Just going over your videos. How could I forget”, that may have been all that was recorded. These video recordings are used like text chats.

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  20. LTC8K6 says:

    I wonder if Brown thought Wilson had been hit by the gunfire in the vehicle? Brown might have thought he had nothing to lose then, and that Wilson might be taken easily?

    I wonder if blood was visible on Wilson, leading Brown to make a stupid decision?

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  21. DarPot says:

    Why isn’t the fact Mike Brown was a violent criminal relevant to shooting being justifiable?

    Mike Brown was out for Trouble and he found it. Had Mike Brown not be stopped, he would have gone on to assault or possibly murder others.

    Frankly, good riddance to criminals like Mike Brown.

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  22. Gary says:

    Oh – someone has a sign that reads “Know Justice, Know Peace”. Clever. 🙂

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    • georgiafl says:

      It’s really, Know Jesus = Know Peace.

      Ephesians 2:14 – He is our Peace.

      Jesus also = Justice, Righteousness, (real) Hope and Joy.

      Obama can keep his version of hope and change.

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  23. truecoiors says:

    Possibly the most pathetic aspect of all this — and that is saying a lot, I know — is that Barack Obama and Eric Holder had to know from the very beginning that there was probably going to be forensic evidence to support the police officers account of events.

    Yet despite that, Obama quickly rushed in to fan the flames of a false narrative. Obama issued a public statement which conveyed the message that Brown was innocent and Darren Wilson was guilty. He issued “condolences” to the Brown family. He said that he would send feds to Ferguson to get to the bottom of things(thereby suggesting that the local authorities must be untrustworthy and needed to be under the thumb of daddy Washington.).

    Realistically, Obama should not have started off with “condolences” to anyone. He should have said set the tone early on that “we need to wait and see what the evidence shows before we draw any conclusions one way or the other.”

    Had he done that then perhaps a lot of needless violence and destruction could have been avoided.

    TC

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    • Lottacats says:

      Obama did same with Trayvon. You’d think he’d stfu until he knew more. Especially as he is president of all. Not ever been very presidential in my view. Just crashes at the house is all

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    • jason says:

      he doubled down by referring to Mike Brown in his speech to the UN as well 😦

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    • Scott Angell says:

      You know its interesting because many years ago, and I was watching TV then, Richard Nixon made some remark about the Manson Family murders in LA. He was, of course, against them but his comment implied that Manson committed them BEFORE he had been convicted of them. The NYT and WP had a cow as I recall because the trial had not taken place and Manson was entitled to a presumption of innocence ( he had been indicted though) and it was improper for a President to prejudge a matter before the courts.

      My oh my, how Obama has pushed his way far past that. Now we have a president, in effect, saying “if I had a son he would look like Charles Manson” ? Sweet Jesus, Nixon wouldn’t have made it to a second term if he uttered such nonsense. He would have been finished if had met with Patricia Krenwinkel’s attorney at the White House.

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    • georgiafl says:

      Truth ain’t one of Obama’s agendas.

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    • Chewbarkah says:

      Good comment. Isn’t it ironic that Obama has a “reputation” for meticulous deliberation, obsessively weighing all sides of an issue before reaching decisions or taking action. This of course is the excuse for his indecisiveness. But when racial grievance is on the menu, he knows what he knows instantly and can’t wait to mouth off.

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  24. LTC8K6 says:

    http://twitchy.com/2014/10/17/the-entire-nation-will-burn-ferguson-protestors-discouraged-by-nyt-profile-of-darren-wilson/

    ‘The entire nation will burn’: Ferguson protestors discouraged by NYT profile of Darren Wilson

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  25. stellabella25 says:

    It’s indoctrination of the children night in Ferguson. Thugs in training. Poor babies don’t stand a chance.

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  26. whodoneit says:

    Regarding Johnson’s description of what went down at Wilson’s vehicle – very early on (like the day following the incident) Johnson claimed (as he has in his actual testimony) that Wilson opened the door, hit them with it so hard that it “bounced” back. That has bugged me from the beginning. No way. If the door had hit two soft bodies, it would have simply stopped there. The only way it would have “bounced” back is if it was “shoved” back – likely by Brown whether Johnson realized it or not.
    And then this nonsense that Wilson proceeded to grab Brown “around” the neck with one hand and attempted to choke him. Brown was 6’4″ and nearly 300 lbs. with a neck like a bull. If Wilson was even able to reach Brown’s neck (which is quite doubtful) – how could he have possibly managed a grip on it with one hand. Who can actually get a grip on their own neck with one hand? Try it. Then imagine your neck being twice the size. No way. And what did Brown do during the alleged chocking? – Just stand there? Really? From there on, anything this clown has claimed can’t possibly be taken as the least bit credible – as the jury was well aware. Forgive me if I have bored any of you, but I enjoy such details.

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    • Gary says:

      As ridiculous as the neck grab is, Johnson says that Brown was angrily trying to pull away and, as he was pulling away, Wilson went from grabbing Brown’s neck to grabbing Brown’s T-Shirt. It’s impossible to go from grabbing one thing to grabbing something else without opening your hand. Why wasn’t Brown able to pull himself away when Wilson opened his hand if he was angrily trying to do so.

      Johnson is just a liar and a really bad one at that.

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      • whodoneit says:

        Gary – exactly my point. If there had been any “neck grabbing” at all (which, in itself, is obviously impossible) – why would Brown just stand there like a statue waiting for Wilson to make another move. Yes, he is a really bad liar . And I can imagine the expressions on the jurors faces as he told his woeful tale.

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        • P.Spinach says:

          The neck grabbing was all Mike Brown’s. In all likelihood, Dorian Johnson is a liar but he made it up by turning actual events around and attributing the neck grap to the cop. It was the other way around. Mike went for Wilson’s neck, causing the cop’s hat to fly off.

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          • georgiafl says:

            NO Doubt – as with Trayvon Martin, Mike Brown’s the neurological effects of his drug history contributed to his aggressive behavior.

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            • georgiafl says:

              Same thing with Jesse Leroy Matthew, rapist, murderer in Charlottesville, VA, charged with the abduction with intent to defile of Hannah Graham.

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            • There are a lot of neurological effects in the AA prison population that I attribute to head injury from child abuse. That is nothing I can prove or have studies for. It is a correlation I have drawn based on my experience.

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      • LTC8K6 says:

        This latest witness, who is black, told the Post-Dispatch that Johnson took off running toward West Florissant Avenue after the first shot went off inside Wilson’s police SUV.

        http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/witness-adds-new-perspective-to-ferguson-shooting/article_ab6e1e03-c49a-5c7f-8786-b0e88ec79349.html

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      • stormyeyesc says:

        For sure. It will be interesting to see what he said to the GJ. I also knew something about fighting through the window for a gun did not work. I tried getting DH’s wallet from his right pocket through an open SUV window. NO WAY. The door was open, he was shoved in, and Brown got on top of him is how it sounds. So much for the door ‘bumped them’ and they ran away.

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        • Gary says:

          I’ve wondered about this too. One of the witnesses described Wilson kicking the door open after the shot was fired and Brown backed away (it was either Brady or ‘Steve’ who said this I think). This led me to believe that Wilson wasn’t seated forward. And if Brown was shot in the right arm it would be awkward (but not impossible, I guess) to reach across Wilson for the gun if Wilson was seated forward. I always thought that Wilson got his feet on the ground when he got pushed into the SUV; and maybe Brown struggled with him with the door and Brown’s weight pinning one or both of his legs. Reaching for the gun could have happened through the window with Brown reaching down and to his left. But I’m speculating.

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          • Larry Wolfe says:

            You’re not speculating but rather recalling something but unable to associate the information with the source. Wilson’s account as told by Josie was that Brown slammed the door back on him, went some distance away, then when Wilson opened the door a second time Brown “bum rushed” him and pushed him back into the vehicle. Then they struggled, almost certainly with the door open rather than through the window.

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      • When I was a kid, I’d hold my siblings until they’d pull away. I’d let go and they’d fall. Fun times… they “fell” for it more than once.
        (Disclaimer: They were wicked children AND no children were harmed during this prank)

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    • stormyeyesc says:

      “Johnson claimed (as he has in his actual testimony)” To my knowledge, no one knows yet what he said in his “actual testimony”.

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  27. B Jenkum says:

    One wonders if unwillingness to suppress “his people” as they begin their grand party, is why Holder bugged out.

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  28. Moishe Pipik says:

    The Protestors should be pleased! This means this cop was not a racist, and that people aren’t being shot just because they’re black.

    Isn’t that what they wanted? A world where people aren’t being attacked because of the color of their skin?

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    • What absolute morons. /smh

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      • engmikeymike says:

        I see a theme here that may not have been brought up: TM, Meyers and MB all did incredibly stupid things (I add allegedly for my legal protection) which lead to their deaths. They are the ‘bottom of the barrel’ in my opinion regarding thugs, I noted a parallel pattern when working in state prisons. The ones on the inside were apparently not very smart thugs, thieves, etc. since they were caught, tried and found guilty. Another group doing time were incredibly vain, with thoughts of superiority and invincibility leading them to do the stupid behaviors that brought them down, never thinking THEY would not get away with it. This pattern seems to hold in my opinion regardless of race, social/economics, even age and to some degree their levels of education,.
        So we seem to be following these events done by really inept perpetrators, ‘bottom feeders’ they could be called.
        Low and behold… what types are drawn into the fray? Bottom Feeders in other realms. Consider the BGI regulars, the ignorant low information crowds, the MSM, many people desperate for any type of recognition, even fleeting fame, or validation of their inept lives.
        If true, and I think the pattern is there, we are not really talking about RACE as much as we are about Ineptness, Ineffectiveness, I know that race has become a main part of the template, but perhaps if we start to see these actors for who they really are our responses could be used to ‘isolate, freeze, etc’ ala Saul Alinsky. The actors would cry racism as usual. but the framing of the counter-position could take on power and be trumpeted more loudly.
        The target is not really the bottoms feeders, they don’t want to change or understand. Perhaps it would give a clearer platform to take back the message from RACISM, RACISM, RACISM. which tends to freeze most people who object. to what is really INEPT STUPIDITY in person who happen to be black.
        All above stated as IMHO.
        Apologies if stating the obvious.

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        • engmikeymike says:

          May I also add the I and most likely others here know many persons of varied races who are incredibly competent and are leading great lives,

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  29. YayYay says:

    i am Darren Wilson

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  30. peachteachr says:

    So this is how it ends? Wth a whimper and not a bang. We really knew we were right when Crump didn’t return for the passing of the collection trash cans. Again, congrats to the Ferguson lawmen and women. Also to SD and the rest of you who did a yeoman’s work here in the tree top. Woop Woop! As my mama use to say, it’s all over except the shouting. I pray that they go quietly.

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  31. David In TN says:

    Most of the comments to the NY Times article still want Wilson arrested (and convicted) but the percentage isn’t as high as before.

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  32. Yakmaster says:

    I’m hoping Dawg Days of Ferguson are about to end. (I could do a riff on the Dawg thing, but I’ll resist).

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  33. Daniel says:

    There we go. It will be over soon. Blood on the gun and in the car confirms pretty much everything including the fact that this guy was coming back for more while he was finally put down by the officer in self defense.

    Meanwhile, irreparable harm has been done to the community by many of its inhabitants. I would absolutely LOVE to see a series of civil suits filed against race baiters for their comments and directions on this matter. “Inciting a riot” is a crime is it not? They may not be able to indict on that easily enough, but they have enough that a civil case would get the needed attention and/or possibly even a huge settlement.

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  34. P.Spinach says:

    From LTC8K6’s link just above, based on a GJ witness:

    “There was a tussle going on,” he said, adding that he believes he saw Wilson’s hat fly off.

    He then heard a shot and saw Brown run, followed by Wilson. He said Wilson aimed his handgun at Brown and yelled: “Stop! Stop! Stop!”

    The witness said Brown did stop, mumbled something he could not clearly hear and took a step toward Wilson.

    Well, we know what happened after the ‘tussle’ in the car then.

    It is idiocy to think that the old rule doesn’t apply, that for every action there is a reaction. The assault on Wilson is forensically proven to be fact now. Wilson would have cuts and injuries to his neck on medical record to substantiate Brown’s attack. Dorian Johnson, who is also a defacto non-credible witness based on his previous record of lying to authorities, has incorrectly or purposely projected Brown’s grabbing of the neck to an action by Wilson. It was Brown who grabbed Wilson by the neck. It appears Brown may have attempted to strangle Wilson with bull strength, and when failing? repeatedly punched Wilson until the cop reached for the gun. Wilson was definitely in fear for his life of losing consciousness.

    After stopping, Brown did say something, which is consistent with Josie’s information that Brown taunted Wilson, before advancing again on Wilson. Even this witness admitted he was internally begging Brown to stop. This witness had not clearly seen the extreme struggle which took place in the car, which may explain why he felt it was ‘murder’.

    “When he stepped foot on that street, the officer told him to stop again, and he fired three shots,” the witness recalled. “When he (Brown) got hit, he staggered like, ‘Oh,’ and his body moved. Then he looked down. “His hands were up like this (he gestures with arms out to the side and palms upward), and he was looking at the officer and was coming toward him trying to keep his feet and stand up.

    The hands up were nowhere near the construction worker’s exaggerated and false testimony. The hands out with palms up were a surprise reaction to being shot. Brown clearly could not outrun the officer, and turned around to try another offensive action. The witness does state that the officer never shot at Brown while he was attempting to run from the scene of assault. Hence, no shots at Brown’s back while he was running away. Shots only occurred when Brown back to officer and launched another offense.

    There are no winners, indeed, in this travesty, and the CRS are the guilty party.

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    • justice099 says:

      After this and the TM fiasco, these CRS elements involved in this need to be clearly identified and their actions made available for investigation by congress.

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    • georgiafl says:

      It’s not just CRS – it’s Shahid and company who got right to work with the lies and incitement. I hope his chickens come home to roost – like with a prison sentence. People were killed during those riots.

      The BGI from Sharpton to Shahid to Shabazz are evil, evil, EVIL.

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  35. “This is the first public account of Officer Wilson’s testimony to investigators…”

    Public? That’s funny because this sounds rather private to me considering it’s not reported who exactly gave the information and gave the info to only one paper.

    Regardless, there’s only one new thing here:

    • fired twice in the car

    The rest we pretty much knew from other accounts:

    first bullet struck Mr. Brown in the arm
    second bullet missed
    Mr. Brown’s blood on the gun, interior door panel and on Officer Wilson’s uniform
    Mr. Brown had punched and scratched him repeatedly, leaving swelling on his face and cuts on his neck

    It’s also clearly not a full account of Wilson’s testimony.

    It’s reckless not to publish the full account now that some of it has “officially” been reported.

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  36. After fanning the flames for months, they have scant chance of calming the animals down. Nothing less than Wilson crucified will satisfy them.

    “This is the first public account of Officer Wilson’s testimony to investigators, but it does not explain why, after he emerged from his vehicle, he fired at Mr. Brown multiple times.”

    The “why” is quite simple: Because Brown charged at him and, at that point, he had EVERY reason to believe his life was still in danger.

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  37. georgiafl says:

    I hope I live long enough to see all the Crump (Sharpton, Holder and Obama) chickens come home to roost.

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  38. Duck65 says:

    On the topic of chickens, I may be counting them before they’re hatched, but it does appear that this debacle is winding down and in such a way that there will be no litigation that the Crump crowd can come out on top of, IF, indeed, there is any viable litigation at all. So, in that case, how does the Crump crew get paid? i.e. by whom? Would it come from the $$$ raised for the Brown parents? I trust that no taxpayer $$$ will be transferred for “services” rendered… Somehow, I cannot believe that there is pro bono work afoot here, though maybe contingency, in which case I would imagine that the squeals from the Crump corner will be getting increasingly strident.

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  39. doodahdaze says:

    This will not even phase them. Their sick minds will not allow anything to get in the way of their stupidity.

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  40. myopiafree says:

    The Black Cognitive Dissonance:
    Sometimes people hold a core believe that is very strong.
    When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new evidence can not be accepted.
    It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance.
    And because it is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize, ignore and even deny anything that doesn’t fit with the core belief.

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    • doodahdaze says:

      They will double down.

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    • Larry Wolfe says:

      A core aspect of clinging to a disproved belief despite the evidence is that there is a support group for the false belief (Everyone should read about cognifive dissonance, Festinger, “When Prophecy Fails” somewhere like on Wikipedia.

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  41. 1stgoblyn says:

    Absolutely. Afterall, he was just a baby and unarmed and therefore no threat to DW once he ran. And then, if DW hadn’t gone after him and a week later someone came to harm b/c of Mike Mike’s behavior, there would have been lawsuits b/c ya know, the po-po should have stopped him before he hurt someone else. I sure am glad my “baby” is no longer a police officer.

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  42. Dean says:

    Officer Wilson is a very heroic man.

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