Americans Protest Illegals as High-Profile Conservatives Pander – And Then A Fight Erupted

Whoooooo doggies.   Mrs. Dana Loesch is blistering mad that American Thinker dare to call her, Glenn Beck and Ted Cruz to task.

I do firmly believe tension is extremely high at Glenn Beck world inc. because their decisions this past week, and their attacks against those who disagreed with their decisions, created a situation where they ultimately Alinsky’d  (Isolate, Ridicule, Marginalize) their own audience.    The responses to this AT article from Dana Loesch reek of desperation and angst.

First the Article:

(Via American Thinker – Catharine Evans) While we regular, cash-strapped taxpayers concerned about the well-being of our country stood  on the overpasses Saturday protesting  the total breakdown of our borders, where were a few of our  stalwart conservative spokespeople and politicians? Were they holding anti-illegal immigration  signs  with ‘we the people’ on the National Day of Protesting Against Immigration Reform Amnesty and Border Surge?

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No. Senator Ted Cruz, Rep Louie Gohmert, Glenn Beck, and Dana Loesch, among others, were in McAllen, Texas meeting with Rio Grande Catholic Charities Director Sr. Norma Pimentel just weeks after her very public visit with Nancy Pelosi. Not to be outdone by the Democrats, photos on The Blaze showed the media stars and politicians preparing food, handing out soccer balls and assisting church groups.

Funny how it does not seem to bother them that the rest of us are being forced to pay for transportation, medical care, legal assistance, and housing for the recent surge of illegal aliens coming in droves. Nor do they seem worried about the dangers undocumented illegals pose to the country. If it did, wouldn’t they be with rallying with the protesters, instead of, in St. Paul’s words, partnering “righteousness with lawlessness?”

Before the trip, Blaze and Fox News commentator Dana Loesch offered this explanation for her decision to help out at the border even though she is staunchly opposed to illegal immigration.  The feisty liberal-turned-conservative sounds positively out of touch with the very people and issues she purports to champion. (read more[<– make sure you read the entire article]

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What came next was this:

Of course 100% of illegals have criminal records, that’s why they’re illegal.   But I digress.

From the tone, content and context of Mrs Loesch I’m thinking the collective Glenn Beck enterprise this past weekend might have thinned the skin a bit.

Strange how FEAR has a pesky way of doing that.

 

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108 Responses to Americans Protest Illegals as High-Profile Conservatives Pander – And Then A Fight Erupted

  1. Sharon says:

    they ultimately Alinsky’d (Isolate, Ridicule, Marginalize) their own audience

    Wow, that’s exactly what they did. Good grief. Self-described conservatives might want to start connecting some dots and removing some filters.

    ADD: Had only scanned the article earlier and now note this phrase: Fam, I feel you. Seriously????

    Her pious arguments reduce wounded warriors to the same level as illegal aliens???? Nice move, Dana.

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    • lineman says:

      Like I said before all of them are just pressure relief valves so the people don’t rise up…They are concerned with money and image and that’s it…

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    • MATTHEWM says:

      The USA is no longer the Policeman of the World. We have become the Social Worker for the World instead.

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    • IntoTheFray says:

      Sharon, after what went on in Mississippi, do you expect anything different from the GOPe?
      GOP/Republican no longer equals someone with American conservative values.

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    • Pam says:

      I had my fill of Dana Loesch when I spent a year on twitter. At first, I thought she was an interesting conservative woman. After a few months, I began to see her nastiness. She is fawned over by sycophants who are seemingly in awe of her “beauty” and toughness. And, she is tough. She will go for the jugular and never back off.

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      • Attorney says:

        Tough like Nancy Grace.

        God who needs that?

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        • arttart1983 says:

          Attorney ~ Richard Hornsby wrote about a case NG was involved in when she was a Prosecutor, it was titled “NG’s fall from grace.” It didn’t put NG in a flattering light but that didn’t surprise most of us. It’s probably been 20 yrs. since she even practiced law!

          “Melinda Duckett was a guest on Nancy Grace to talk about her missing son several years ago, to this day the child has never been found. NG immediately stated verbally attacking herMelinda D. WITH OUT ANY EVIDENCE, she yelled/screamed/heavy eye ball rolling at poor Melinda D. during the entire interview falling barely short of calling her “the murderer of her missing child.”

          After NG berated Melinda on air, Melinda D. committed suicide, NG paid Melinda’s family in a Civil Suit. NG is a bully/blow hard imo, she too has a nasty/vindictive side, well, so does Angela Corey!

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      • And then squeals like a stuck pig when someone fights back, lol. In other words, she’s a bully.

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  2. carterzest says:

    another good one from American Thinker today:
    http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/07/the_brutal_obama_policy_thats_really_driving_the_border_crisis.html
    Of course, this is nothing we have not been discussing for weeks 😀

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    • carterzest says:

      from Lucianne user: grace1798 “Remember America´s influx after WW1 and after WW2? Remember Ellis Island? Remem ber how USA had things organized so that people who came were checked out for infestations and diseases and how we did not let this come into our country? USA was responsible then and reasonable and organized. What do we have today? Insanity, chaos all headed up by the idiocy of the WH. The question is…..WHY would they want this chaos? uh huh. That´s the important question. AND WHY did they plan it? And are STILL PLANNING it to take down every one of us..in every city, town and state.”

      from Lucianne user:nosillod, “Consider a possible why…Remember the Native American Indians died more from disease than from the white mans hands. Their immune systems weren´t prepared for diseases the whites brought with them. What better way to weaken us than from disease? What else would explain the immediate movement of these kids to all over the country? Wake up America, this is a biological time bomb planted by one Barack Obama.”

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      • Dixie Darling says:

        Payback for not supporting Obamacare…..I think he is intent on making us pay for a lot of things we are not guilty of anywhere but in his own mind.

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    • joanfoster says:

      Hamas with a Spanish accent!

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  3. Chip Bennett says:

    Comparing the facilitation of disease-infested, illegal border-crossers (“children” or otherwise) to caring for vets or supporting the Wounded Warrior project is rhetoric beyond the pale.

    I’m still looking for what constitutes shameful, without truth, and malicious about the AT piece.

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    • Cetera says:

      Good Lord, yes it is. Those vets that were killed and wounded in service of their country, to defend us, our liberties, our rights, and our very lives, and who did so voluntarily and at great personal cost to themselves and their families, are no better than the felons, thieves, and gang-bangers coming to take what isn’t theirs?

      Wow, just wow. For shame, Glenn Beck. The words I want to say, I can’t use on this site.

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    • sundance says:

      Chip, go listen to this when you get the chance. I’d be interested, very interested in your thoughts.

      https://soundcloud.com/fm-newstalk-97-1/thomas-lifson-on-demand-audio

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      • Cetera says:

        Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? She states she’s somehow for smaller government, by having private charities take over what the Federal gov’t is doing on the border, without change or question. How is that better?

        Let’s just outsource illegality, corruption, and tyranny to private charities, and then we’ll all be better off!

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        • Aslan's Girl says:

          Border security is one thing the government is supposed to do and Dana says she wants private charities doing it? So, are these private charities sending these illegals home? No? Then we need the FED government. Conservatives are FOR government for this type of thing.

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          • arttart1983 says:

            Aslan’s Girl ~ Dana, imo, is misguided/twisted in her thought process. Who would support the charities to take care of the illegals? Not African Americans, not most of America that doesn’t want them here. Other “illegals” have learned how to manipulate the system & are on public assistance, they aren’t going to donate a dime. imo, the illegals already in this country will network w/the new illegals showing them how it’s done, living off taxpayers. So, we’d be back to taxpayers giving money to charities, the over sight now is out of control.

            Attorney’s don’t represent the kids here already PRO BONO! Something John McCain stated “needs to be changed,” & not paid for by taxpayers. Though I agree, it won’t happen! When “illegals” rob/murder/harass/steal now, they are given Public Defenders. Those that live off the government plan to continue, & imo, that includes many attorney’s bilking the rate of what ever Public defenders are paid.

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      • Chip Bennett says:

        I’ll give it a listen tonight.

        I was a big fan of Dana’s when she was just a local show on 97.1 here in St. Louis. But this Dana, not so much. She’s treating her bread-and-butter audience the way the GOP treats the rank-and-file in Mississippi.

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      • Chip Bennett says:

        Sorry for the disjointed thoughts. I tried to “live-blog” it as I was listening to it.

        indicates paraphrasing. My interjections are in (parentheses).

        DL = Dana Loesch
        TL = Thomas Lifson

        TL: You’ve called me a “liar” and you’ve called us a “crap bag” in the first hour of your show. That’s pretty intemperate.

        DL: Yes it is, and… well, no; it’s pretty accurate. The truth isn’t mean; it’s truth.

        (How’s that dose of your own medicine taste, Dana? Just because you don’t like or agree with the words of the AT article doesn’t mean they’re untrue.)

        TL: I do take offense to being called a “crap bag”.

        DL: Well you know what? I do take offense with essentially being accused of aiding lawbreakers.

        (Psst, hey Dana, guess what? Those people you were giving food to? They’re lawbreakers. They’re lawbreakers because they have crossed our border illegally, and are present in our country illegally. You’re facilitating their lawbreaking, by making it easier for them to be here.)

        DL:

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        (Typical liberal tactic: move the goal posts. She changes the meaning of the statement in an attempt to disprove the statement. It is a very subtle Straw Man.)

        DL:

        TL: <you mis-quoted us, saying that we said you "aided and abetted lawbreakers". We said "helping".

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        (So, Dana insists on AT being accurate, yet misquotes the article. Dana insists on being contacted before being criticized, yet failed to link to the source of her own criticism – a source that she mis-quotes in her criticism.)

        DL:

        (Now that’s a HUGE Straw Man, with a side of non sequitur, and more than a dash of hypocrisy, given that Dana continues to harp – incorrectly – about the AT article being “inaccurate”.)

        (I’ll also note here that Dana said at the beginning that she didn’t have Lifson call to have an argument, but rather to have a civil discourse – yet she never lets him complete a sentence without interrupting and talking over him.)

        TL:

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        (Dana, as usual, interrupts. Be on the lookout for more moralizing later about civil discourse.)

        DL:

        (This seems to be her favorite Straw Man. Nowhere do the AT article or Lifson himself ever advocate for government assistance for lawbreakers.)

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        (Another liberal tactic: disavowing the actual consequences of actions and policy. Thomas Sowell would have a field day with Dana’s response here.)

        All in all: this was pure, hypocritical sophistry on Dana’s part.

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  4. Attorney says:

    Maybe Glen Beck could focus on raising money for the veterans who are being savaged by the VA?

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    • joanfoster says:

      Or perhaps Glenn could reach out to the homeless who are being physically assaulted and murdered on our streets by none other than Latino teenagers:

      http://www.cbsnews.com/news/three-new-mexico-teens-arrested-in-killings-of-homeless-men/

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    • IntoTheFray says:

      Glen Beck went over to the dark side after leaving Fox News. Maybe before.

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      • Attorney says:

        Sadly he has proven himself to be a phony suckup to the mainstream opinion makers.

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      • JudgyOnAWebsite says:

        I’ve been suspicious of Beck ever since a guest collapsed on his show. I wish I could rightly remember who it was, and exactly when it happened, maybe someone else here knows–the incredible depth & detail of knowledge possessed by the treepers still continues to astound me! I DO distinctly remember how Beck wouldn’t actually touch the man who had crumpled to the floor. Whether or not that was because he didn’t know anything about how to perform CPR, there was just something disdainful, and utterly unseemly in the awkward way Beck feigned like he was trying to help the poor guy. The way he awkwardly hovered while barking commands for someone else to come help made him seem less like the magnanimous guy he’d like us all to think he is, and more like an irritated, unsympathetic TV show host who didn’t want to get his hands dirty. JMO.

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  5. partyzantski says:

    The disease vectors (a.k.a. illegal aliens who have been purposely sourced, funded and funneled into what was once “America”) will have a decided physical and unconcealable impact in the Fall when the new school year starts. You can mostly immunize/inoculate for what they bring, but you cannot immunize against shivs & fists, or worse.

    Think about it- where will they get the bilingual teaching staff? How will they “patrol” with community resource officers to maintain a modicum of order (i.e., keep people from being raped/stabbed/robbed on a daily/hourly basis)?

    Watch your school boards, school budgets and listen to your kids if for some sadistic or apathetic reason you keep them in “public school”. They will tell you what is going on. Watch the various church food pantries, the public transport systems. Find the on-line crime blotters for your local PD. You will have no choice but to bear witness.

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    • hoosiergranny says:

      TB is likely the biggest threat. The close quarters they are being housed in will only cause the disease to spread prior to their “deployment” out into the communities.

      TB was a huge killer of city dwellers until better public health practices and antibiotics circa WWII. This disease wiped out many of my ancestors. All 4 of my grandparents suffered from it but were blessed by the evolution of better medical treatments. My mother spent a full year, from just after her 8th birthday until just after her 9th, in a TB sanitarium. Praying for all Treepers and their families/loved ones.

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      • JudgyOnAWebsite says:

        I saw a PBS documentary on the antibiotic-resistant TB strains wreaking havoc in Africa, and had thought I’d heard something about the TB here also being antibiotic-resistant. If it’s ANYTHING like what was shown in the documentary, we should rightfully be just shy of terrified. Why should we have to act like all of this is perfectly fine? Al Sharpton, always on the wrong side of history, was mocking those who would protest this insanity last week. Today on Greta there was word of illegals being allowed to bypass TSA agents and just being loaded on planes willy-nilly, no testing for diseases, no forms of ANY type of ID save for those famous “Request to Appear” papers. And apparently they even got to cut the line in front of citizen passengers–what am I saying, of COURSE they did, that’s what they DO! We should all just shut up and pay for it, right? I’d gladly take any fictional Hollywood president over our “real” one, even Martin Sheen. And hey, didn’t Chris Rock play a black president? Can we have HIM instead??

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      • xschild says:

        @hoosiergranny
        So glad you mentioned this in your reply. TB was the first thing mentioned that made me pay attention to this fiasco. TB was a big killer way back when.
        TB took my maternal side of the family out. Mother spent years in State sanitarium.
        The only thing that saved her was an experimental drug called streptamiacin (sic).
        Don’t think anyone on this board understands TB of today is the drug resistant kind.
        Deadly and rampant and this is coming across the border. No shots for immunization
        available. Heads up people, warning on the net to be observant while shopping in crowded places. DDT will take care of what they have otherwise. Sorry for the long post love you guys.

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  6. Dixie Darling says:

    They are being hypocritical and putting on a big show of concern. In other words, they are trying to walk the tight rope between conservatism and the left. Glenn Beck recently said on Megyn’s show, “I just don’t care anymore.” Maybe he is sick and preparing to meet his maker.

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  7. Sharon says:

    I just went to AT and did a quick read through all the comments. Nary a comment there by Dana Loesch or any of the others. If they’re so upset and feel so misrepresented, they are perfectly free to weigh in within the conversation. They have not done so.

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    • sundance says:

      Heck no – they won’t go. They’ll send in their “twitter armies” to do that work.

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    • labrat says:

      My favorite comment there – so far.
      “Game, set, match to Obama… and conservatives fell for it. He and the media framed this as a humanitarian crisis from the beginning thus making it a win for him because anyone who doesn’t aid and abet the illegals looks and seems like a heartless ogre.”

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  8. labrat says:

    $250 per day, per child.
    Let that sink in.
    Two hundred and fifty dollars, per child, per day.

    That is what our government is spending on each UAC, and yet I’m to be admonished for not having the heart to contribute a teddy bear for a photo-op for the sanctimonious fools that want to feed the narrative?

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  9. Speaking from this hot, nasty vantage point, I’d say America is quickly losing a lot of the people needed to rebuild the nation into a reasonable facsimile of a Constitutional Republic. Sad.

    Remember Lincoln’s 1838 warning… “If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher.”

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  10. auscitizenmom says:

    Wow, that second picture shows the oldest, fattest, tallest, bunch of “starving, unaccompanied, children” I have ever seen. 👿

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  11. Sharon says:

    Hannitty has just announced that Glenn Beck is going to be on his program at some point…don’t know which hour.

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    • arttart1983 says:

      Sharon ~ what irks me to death, is WHY Glenn Beck sought donations from others. If Glenn Beck truly felt strongly & wasn’t drumming up publicity/promoting himself, he would have bankrolled the whole event himself! God knows could have bankrolled this publicity seeking venture on his own!

      If I could tweeter, I would have challenged the grunt whining about the FACTS being disclosed on the self promoting agenda of Glenn Beck imo. I would have challenged her on WHY Glenn Beck DIDN’T PAY for the event himself instead of seeking donations, after all, Glenn Beck is under contracts for millions more!

      GLEN BECK IS WORTH 250 MILLION!

      http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/glenn-beck-net-worth/

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    • kkdgrace says:

      Wonder what he can say? Beck and Hannity have become “besties” lately

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      • arttart1983 says:

        kkdgrace: Sean Hannity makes 20 million a year, net worth of over 60 million.

        Hannity won’t challenge Beck on the amount of money Beck makes, that’s why, imo, it will take someone reporting Becks earnings challenging Dana about Becks net worth & why he couldn’t pay for it himself.

        (you can find net worth of those in media/TV/movies by googling “celebrity net worth” or “Forbes” listing of net worth.)

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        • Sharon says:

          I don’t think any significant light will be shed. It’s instructive to note where and how the shadows are sustained.

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    • sundance says:

      Gee, I wonder why Glenn Beck and Company are desperately trying to reach out to a conservative audience today ?

      Hmmm…. let me think on that….. I wonder what could have happened ?

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      • auscitizenmom says:

        Oh dear, my eyes must be going. I can only see very obese men, women and some few children in this picture. 😯

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        • JudgyOnAWebsite says:

          Maybe Beck would have done better to give out “makeovers” rather than teddy bears–something more along the lines of those charities who provide single mothers with hair & grooming tips, and with pre-worn business clothing, so they can “enter the working world”? I’m sure these people lining up to get free stuff in the photographs have EVERY intention of contributing, and are well-armed with photo IDs, job resumes, and fantastic language skills……..no? I realize I may sound heartless, but I can’t IMAGINE just showing up somewhere and expecting others to take care of me. In some way, isn’t that EQUALLY heartless, to expect Americans to provide for them & theirs? Any pity I may have is outweighed by anger–we are being SO snookered, and more are on the way! Eeuww, just eeuww. How do they not get that they’re only bringing their countries’ problems over HERE, & eventually we’ll end up as crappy, criminal and corrupt as the places they’ve “escaped”? Seriously, HOW do they not get that?? (Head pounding on desk now).

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      • Those folks are clearly starving. It’s a good thing Beck got there when he did.

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    • stella says:

      I just listened to Beck on Hannity. No discussion of the border or illegals. Beck was on to discuss his Common Core initiative (anti), and it sounds interesting.

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      • Sharon says:

        The Common Core info was interesting and useful. I think his silence re the border is interesting as well–obviously he and Sean decided not to go there.

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      • Aslan's Girl says:

        So Beck stuck to something conservatives would agree with him on. Heh. Buttering us up so we don’t talk about his betrayal on the border.

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        • stella says:

          I think his purpose was to drum up enthusiasm for this Common Core program he is putting together, and that he and Hannity agreed not to discuss the border issue. Hannity did say something in passing about not always agreeing with Glenn.

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  12. kkdgrace says:

    Wish I could find the sound track currently playing through my head so I can post. Something along the lines of “Shame Shame Shaaaaame”

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  13. justfactsplz says:

    This is the worst political mistake Ted Cruz could have made. Does he know the back story on this rush of illegals and about all the grant money? If he does, shame on him. If he doesn’t he needs enlightened.

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    • Sharon says:

      What if it was not a political mistake and actually represents his convictions, thoughts, ideas and goals?

      I’m sick of giving public figures a pass on the basis of political misjudgment.

      Why don’t we just assume that what they do is an accurate representation of what they really think, and see where that takes us.

      Kind of like following the money.

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      • justfactsplz says:

        Deep down I think it is probably his own convictions and thoughts. I’m sick of it too. There seems to be none left worthy of leading our beloved America. If this war is one to regain our republic it will be patriots doing the battle.

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        • Sharon says:

          Well, there are only two options:

          Either it is a reflection of his own convictions or he was easily influenced to do something against his actual convictions. It’s up to him, I guess, to let us know which it was – can’t have it both ways.

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          • justfactsplz says:

            It’s the children, tugging at the heart strings. They believed the hype about the children and jumped right in before doing their research. Just like the media painting Israel monsters because of children casualties without researching (like they remember what that word means) and finding out that Hamas is pushing civilian casualties. It is their fault not Israel’s. It would be interesting to find out the percentage of actual young children crossing the border alone.

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            • Sharon says:

              If it’s the children tugging at the heart strings, then they are utterly delusional because anyone around the world who cares to observe the photos can see that very few of them are children.

              If they’re that delusional and that willing to deceive they’ve got far bigger personal problems that political optics.

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              • hoosiergranny says:

                I’m not buying that it was the children tugging at his heartstrings. As I said a few weeks ago, he totally disappointed me when he said he thought Thad won the run off in MS and he’d be happy to work with him. He’s being turned to the dark side. If he doesn’t wake up soon, he’ll loose all the conservative support he’s built. The Tea Party/conservatives are better off without the turncoats.

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      • lineman says:

        +1000…That’s it with anything these days…Follow the money and see who benefits and your question has a good chance of being answered…

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  14. Kauf Buch says:

    I hate it when people quote/paraphrase the Bible to justify rationalize encouraging and enabling law breakers and law breaking.
    See Dana. See Dana fail. Fail, Dana, fail.

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    • Sharon says:

      Exactly.

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      • sundance says:

        A comment from AT:

        …”I grow weary of people using Scripture to justify their motives and means. Jesus had some advice for the ostentatiously charitable which Beck, Loesch et al seem to have forgotten:

        Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.

        So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.

        But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing,

        so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you”….

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  15. Sam says:

    Here’s the link to the clip of Thomas Lifson from AT talking to Dana Loesch. I haven’t listened to it yet. I’m just about it but thought I”d post it for all to hear.
    http://www.971talk.com/blogs/dana-show-blog/audio-demand/thomas-lifson-dana-show

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    • sundance says:

      Loesch sounds just like a rabid liberal when they know they are on the wrong side of an argument. I’m thinking both her and Beck realize they just toasted their own audience and set themselves back some $$$$; hence the rabid and irrational response toward someone just for having a different opinion.

      As I listened I felt bad for Lifson having to go through that.

      She’s totally lost it. And quadrupling down at the same time.

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      • labrat says:

        I have to admit, I’ve never heard of this woman before. Insufferable, I couldn’t get through that clip. I had to stop. Wasn’t impressed with Lifson either. He let her lead the narrative. It was all about how she took the article as a personal affront and totally missed the larger picture. I would have shredded her tripe about how their lame attempt at charity made any dent in government assistance to these people. $250/per day/per child </B.

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  16. michellc says:

    I’m about fed up with give me, give me and I’m about fed up with people telling me it’s my Christian duty to give, give, give.

    I feel like crap today and people are getting on my last nerve. First I have some LR furniture for sell and after the 3rd call today, not to mention all the calls over the weekend of sob stories of why they need me to give them my furniture, I lost it and told the beggar I wasn’t a charity and I needed to sell the furniture to help pay for the new furniture. That I also could not understand people like her without shame. I would sit on a rock and sleep on the ground before I asked anyone to give me furniture. I told her since she was a Christian woman down on her luck she should read her Bible and see that Jesus never begged for anything and he never taught His disciples to beg. Since she was a single mother, she should read how to raise her child and she would find nowhere in the Bible where it says to raise her child to beg for stuff. Since she also is on welfare and foodstamps she should be grateful that my hard earned money is providing that for her. I got no farther before she said a nice two word statement(it wasn’t God Bless) and ended the call.

    Following that call I got a call from a “new” Christian foundation looking for donations to set up a shelter for the “refugee” children. Oh that conversation started off civil enough before she got to the point of her call. She didn’t seem to like my response to it was “our” Christian duty to help those in need. I told her that her Christian duty was to use her own money and food to help those she felt were in need. Not to call me and ask me for my money to give to her to help those in need. I also gave her an education on these adult criminals she wanted me to support. She seemed to think I was rude and harsh for calling her a traitor to the country to support illegals and was a traitor to her fellow Oklahoma citizens to want to bring diseases into this state.

    Supposedly according to local news there are a lot of scammers right now asking for money for the “refugees” and she may have been a scammer, but scammer or not, I doubt she’ll be calling me again.

    If GB or DL want to call me, I’ll give them a piece of my mind as well. The AT article is spot on and they know it, which is exactly why they have a bee in their bonnet. We the People are sick of turncoats. As far as this people, I have a short fuse these days and it doesn’t take much to make me turn you off, which I did awhile ago with GB.

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      Good for you! 🙂

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      • michellc says:

        My daughter just sent me this link to a CL ad in Arkansas and said, “Mom maybe this is one of the people calling you. Look at the second picture.lol”

        It made me laugh.

        http://fayar.craigslist.org/wan/4508382192.html

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        • auscitizenmom says:

          Um, I have a question (not that I expect you to have an answer to). Why would you put an ad in like that with a picture making you look like you were naked??

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          • carterzest says:

            looking like…….I think they are NEKKID

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          • michellc says:

            Maybe they’re looking for swingers or a nudist colony?

            I have another question though, if you had stuff you wanted to give away, why would you be willing to meet with people who post a naked picture?

            On another note, several years ago we had a huge fire, we were one of the lucky ones who didn’t lose our home. Many people did and of those people very few begged for help. Those of us who were lucky, gave many of them furniture, clothes, dishes, etc. that we could spare, we all did what we could afford to do including giving them money and buying clothes and shoes for kids. I can’t tell you how many of those people were grateful, but also were not comfortable with being given things. They didn’t beg and the community didn’t beg others to help them help the people. Everyone just did what neighbors should do, not because of the attention or any possible benefits. Those are the kind of people I choose to help, hard working people who try to follow the law and do right by others and would rather do without than beg.
            I don’t say that to pat myself on the back, but to pat others on the back who gave way more than I and the people who had just lost everything who still had their pride and faith intact.

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            • auscitizenmom says:

              “I have another question though, if you had stuff you wanted to give away, why would you be willing to meet with people who post a naked picture?” I can answer that. I wouldn’t!!!

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          • hoosiergranny says:

            They are trying to make it look like they lost everything including the shirts (and whatever) off their backs?

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    • Sharon says:

      And the biggest issue is absolutely NOT whether or not or WHY NOT you want to give – it’s that these enablers have no idea that the sovereignty of our nation is swirling around the drain. This is why obama should not have been elected in 2008. He had announced what he was going to do. He’s going it. Those who are not willing to fight for their own survival are often the first to die in any bad situation – natural or manmade.

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      • michellc says:

        I just commented something similar to justfactsplz. The illegals are coming to use us and the people as you say who are enabling them are willing to destroy our country for photo ops and personal benefit. It’s not surprising they don’t like be called out for what they’re doing, they need us to shut up and the attacks are a way to attempt to do that. Trying to shame me doesn’t work when you are a person with no shame, if I tweeted that is what I would tweet to them.

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    • justfactsplz says:

      Michellc, I am so sorry you have a bad day like many of us do at times. However, I must admit I love it when you get on your soapbox. You tell them the truth and you tell it well. I wish I lived in Oklahoma because I would love to buy some clean decent used furniture. When I moved a year ago I had a yard sale and after it was over the vultures descended wanting free stuff. It irks me. I did end up giving it to a charity called Our Father’s Closet because I knew they gave it to the needy but only after they proved they financially were needy. For people who didn’t qualify they could buy items from the store real cheap.

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      • michellc says:

        You’d think I’d be used to people asking for stuff, we get asked all the time to give people eggs, produce, even animals, but I’ve honestly been a little taken aback of the number of people who have wanted me to give them furniture.
        I was raised in a different world and it honestly makes me mad and sad that so many people have no shame.
        My husband says that if people would stop giving to them, they’d stop asking. The thing though that gets me is you know some of these people are pretending to be needy to get something for free or something they can turn around and sell.

        Much the same as these illegals, they’re not coming here for a better life, a life where they can work and contribute to society, but where they can come and use us and the people who are helping them don’t care about our country, our laws, our security or even our health. They only care about photo ops and how they can personally benefit and are willing to destroy our country in the process.

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        • JudgyOnAWebsite says:

          So refreshing to be able to come here and hear voices of sanity! (I live in California, and as a secretly Spanish-speaking gringo, have heard illegal aliens from Mexico openly laughing at how dumb Americans are. For the record, I have friends who have come here LEGALLY from Mexico, Colombia & El Salvador–they are basically MORTIFIED at the “gimme, gimme” attitudes of the illegal crowd, and do NOT wish to be lumped in with them. Would only that there were more of these stock, to counteract the despicable foolishness of Luis Guitierrez & his ilk!). When it comes to describing one’s views on illegal immigration, I defer to my late WW Two veteran father, who said simply “I wouldn’t go to a party I wasn’t invited to, or wasn’t wanted at. Why the hell would I?”. I CANNOT understand why people fail to understand that these folks who think so little of breaking one of our laws are likely to break more of them……to OUR detriment. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

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    • lineman says:

      Give them hell girl….Everybody wants something for nothing these days so they can treat it like nothing and then when its destroyed go want something better for nothing…Vicious Cycle…

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      • auscitizenmom says:

        Not long ago, a well dressed, young, black woman walked up to me in a book store and asked if I would give her $4.53 because she was short that much for what she wanted. I just told her my money was too hard to come by to give it away. Imagine her gall, her lack of self respect.

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    • hoosiergranny says:

      Michellc – I love reading your comments. You do a much better job of speaking my mind than I could ever do.

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      • Mist'ears Mom says:

        I agree-well said Michellc. This is a plague brought down on us. I grew up in San Diego, that beautiful city has become infested with the illegals and they are sending more. The Mexicans business owners and generally everyone of them are rude to gringos, have different prices for gringos, take advantage of the gringos, consider themselves entitled to whatever they can get from the gringos. It is very sad, you should see them at the swap meet-vultures. They see it as us vs them…The culture of those arriving here is not desirable to or in any of our communities. I can bet you my bottom dollar that those in that picture are not from South America. They do the same thing the Filipinos do. Whenever there is anything given away or ‘free’, they bring their whole family, often very large with grandma’s & pa’s, aunts uncles and the normal 5 to 6 kids in tow all wanting that ‘free’ stuff for each of them-even the baby in the carriage. They have drank the kool-aid and bought Obummers bs. They expect it to be given to them. Gluttony, greed and sloth is their mantra. There is no respect for us or our cities. Just what this country needs-more of them.
        What is even sadder is the poverty our legal! American citizens and veterans face. I moved to Idaho and the people here are poor, they can’t pay their rents or support their families…and they can’t get any assistance from our good old government. It’s to busy giving millions to non-profits for the illegals. It is mind boggling and so disturbing.

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  17. Sharon says:

    It is a grave error to view the swarming of illegal aliens across our southern border as anything other than a challenge to our sovereignty — a challenge abetted, rather than repulsed, by a president who vows to “fundamentally transform the United States of America.” The challenge brings into sharp relief a question I’ve repeatedly pressed (see, e.g., here, here, here, and here): If the states cannot or will not defend themselves, are they still, in any real sense, sovereign?

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/383159/obama-caused-border-disaster-andrew-c-mccarthy

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    • michellc says:

      If the states cannot or will not defend themselves, are they still, in any real sense, sovereign?

      My answer is NO!

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      • Sam says:

        Rick Perry announced this afternoon that he is sending the National Guard to the Texas border. Breitbart has the video. Maybe Texas is still sovereign.

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  18. Sharon says:

    Seems to me that Dana and Glen should lay their shovels down.

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  19. nyetneetot says:

    I go focus on work and come back here to get updated. I’m completely confused. I thought last week GB and group admitted this was a photo op so they could say, ‘see, us conservatives aren’t heartless.’ Did someone try to turn this into something else?

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  20. Aslan's Girl says:

    Thanks for catching me up with this, sundance. Hint to Dana: when you find yourself on the wrong side of American Thinker, you should reassess your position.

    Sort of related: when news came out today that Gov. Perry was sending 1,000 National Guard troops to the border, Michelle Malkin had to get a dig in at him by praising Cruz:

    As if Cruz has been perfect throughout this. I reminded her that Cruz went to Beck’s teddy bear “welcome committee” stunt. But Michelle Malkin has had an irrational hatred of Gov. Perry for years so she had to attack him when he’s the one sending in the NG. Ugh.

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    • justfactsplz says:

      Good for Governor Perry. That’s exactly what was needed, send in the National Guard. Their allegiance is to the governor and state. Way to go TEXAS!

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    • She was right to make the comment. Handing out teddy bears isn’t the same as advocating for and signing legislation. And I hate to break it to you, but the guard won’t be securing the border. They’ll be helping border control change diapers and hand out food.

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      • Chip Bennett says:

        As I said above: it’s a common liberal tactic to disavow the actual, real-world consequences for one’s actions or policies. The more that private citizens facilitate illegal aliens to remain unlawfully in our country, the more others will be emboldened to engage in the same illegal behavior.

        And Lifson was absolutely correct: the actions of private charities will have no impact whatsoever on the amount of (tax-payer) money the government spends to support these illegal aliens. The government will spend what it appropriates to be spent. It’s not going to reassess mid-appropriation and say, “oh, hey, look! Glenn Beck’s charity has paid for sandwiches, water, and soccer balls for the next three months. Now we don’t have to spend our money. Sweet!”

        The government will spend (tax-payer) money, regardless.

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        • arttart1983 says:

          Chip ~ you are exactly correct in stating: “The government will spend (tax-payer) money regardless.” I wholeheartedly agree, if money is donated on top of what taxpayers have to pay/the Gov.’s set amount they pay for each child, anything else donated to the charity would just be lagniappe. (a coon ass saying, meaning, a little something extra.)

          The “Head Start Program” is a good example. When I left the school system, each child enrolled in Head Start that was receiving any services from the public school system such as Physical Therapy, Speech Therapy, Adapted Physical Education, Inclusion, etc., the child receiving services was registered through the public school system ALTHOUGH they attended Head Start, the kids were mostly special needs kids. The deal is: to get the services public school provides, a kid has to be enrolled in public school, Head Start is NOT public school. My estimate is that maybe 20% of the children at the Head Start’s I serviced qualified for the services provided in public school. ONCE that kid was enrolled on the public school ledgers so they qualify for services, the public school system got over $ 9,000.00 per Head Start child.

          The ONLY reason I know this is that I worked 2 years as an itinerant doing inclusion & was assigned 4 different Head Starts along w/4 different public schools. There must be 25 Head Starts in Shreveport, my peers all had other kids at their Head Starts throughout the city.

          In other words, the amount had been determined to be $ 9,000.00 for each Head Start child enrolled through public school to receive services provided for kids w/special needs at Head Start, the amount was pre-determined, it never varied.

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  21. flawesttexas says:

    In reality…I think a lot of these “conservatives” got exposed on their real support of Illegal Alien Amnesty.

    Giving aid to illegal aliens just encourages them

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  22. auscitizenmom says:

    We all should probably start wearing a mask when we shop and then explain to people why. I bet that would start gettin g a little attention to this illegal alien problem.

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