Another Rancher Under Federal Assault – Diamond Bar Ranch New Mexico – Feds Hold Cattle Hostage for $40,950 (Round Up Fee)

Southwest New Mexico – The Diamond Bar Ranch was acquired by the Laney family in 1986, and its adjacent Laney Cattle Company was allowed to utilize grazing lands since 1883.

According to the US Forest Service, however, they are no longer entitled to do so, and the USFS has posted notices along the fence line of their property advising people not to attempt to enter the ranch. Lands are being seized, and the cattle removed, “one way or the other.”

fist pump first fam

Now they say that the cattle may be redeemed if the Laney’s pay for the costs of rounding up the 80 head of cattle – a hefty $40,950.

Reductions in the herds, loss of appeals, a hard life, all because of a fish.

Originally, the Laney property was just 115 acres surrounded by around 144,000 acres of public lands for which Mr. Laney paid grazing rights. But after a “study” by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service decided that the lands could not sustain his 1,188 head of cattle, the Forest Service reduced his cattle herd to a meager 300 head.

Kit’s fight for the land and the ranching lifestyle cost him dearly over the years, even to the point of a divorce, as both Kit and Sherry grew exhausted from the battle. They were barred from improvements on the “wilderness” land for several years, which required them to ride out to livestock on horseback rather than hop in a truck. That and the continual stress of appeals, took a toll, though they eventually reconciled.

Oh, and this one is over an “endangered species” called the “Gila Trout,” in case you were wondering.

The continuation of a battle

On Saturday, April 12, Kit Laney was served with a notice that his ranch would be shut down on Wednesday and his 300 head of “trespass” cattle removed from the land. This situation comes just a week after Rancher Cliven Bundy had a similar situation in Nevada.

New Mexico’s “Brand Law” states that cattle cannot be transported across state lines without permission from the State Livestock Board. According to a Tea Party Tribune article, Catron County Sheriff Cliff Snyder notified the Forest Service that he will demand that law be enforced, and that cattle “cannot be shipped and sold without being in direct violation of NM Statute.”

“I intend to enforce the state livestock laws in my county. I will not allow anyone, in violation of state law, to ship Diamond Bar Cattle out of my county.” Sheriff Cliff Snyder

Unfortunately, in the case of Mr. Bundy, the federal agents just killed some of the cattle that wouldn’t move without regard to the law or any vestige of conscience. In this case, federal agents say the cattle are being held at an undisclosed area out of the state. Apparently the feds slipped past the Sheriff.   (continue reading)

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96 Responses to Another Rancher Under Federal Assault – Diamond Bar Ranch New Mexico – Feds Hold Cattle Hostage for $40,950 (Round Up Fee)

  1. F.D.R. in Hell says:

    Up to now, this Administration has been imposing death on America by 1000 tiny cuts.
    For some, as yet, unknown end, they’ve decided to plunge the knife into the Heartland.
    I wonder if they’re trying to smoke out the militias.
    Exercise caution, Wolverines.
    It’s a trap!

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    • I too believe that FDR…..too many examples of such intent. All the dots do connect in far too many varying ways. It’s not about cow farts, tortoises or fish, it’s about removing from the American psyche all belief in God given inalienable rights, and the protection of same guaranteed by the Constitution. The “gradualism” of the past hundred years that for most people went virtually unnoticed, and whenever it DID appear at times was quickly quashed by the propaganda arm (msm) wing of FEDGOV. The dumbing down of our children in the government indoctrination centers (public school system), the formation of militarized units within EVERY department of FEDGOV including USPS, DOE, NOAA etc. with each stockpiling VAST amounts of ammunition, etc. and the daily…no, HOURLY displays of “governing” insanity, whether federal, state, local, academe etc. tells me “THEY” are comfortable that all their ducks are in a row and the time is right. Be prepared….it has begun.

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      • F.D.R. in Hell says:

        It’s a safe bet the G-Men aren’t in this just for the revenue from the fees and the fines. 😦

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        • No doubt my friend, no doubt. Hence the extensive training and psychological conditioning ALL LE agencies (federal, state, local) have/are being progammed for. Remember the “every day people” targets purchased by DHS and others, the live “training” in cities and towns across the US, and the 300 acre “all American town” built in Virginia? The fact that even the smallest of municipalities are acquiring MRAPS and other military armaments (with the mandatory “strings” attached) and the DAILY examples of the success of said programs. Our LEO’s across the “fruited plain” and from “sea to shining sea” are no longer (even for the PR on which it was developed) concerned with “protect and serve”. Keep your powder dry…..no one wants to believe the possibilty, of course, that our own “leaders” could ever harbor evil intentions upon their fellow countrymen (I know because of the past 25 years of trying to warn family and friends of this impending situation and the universal “it could never happen here” response). NOTHING happens by chance….neither GOOD nor bad, especially when it comes to man. The Bible tells us we get the leaders we deserve. The answer isn’t in the the proven corruption of the ballot, but in the return to the Judeo/Christian principles on which this Republic was founded. Pray unceasingly as we are commanded, put on the full armor of God, but do not dismiss Christ’s admonition to his apostles to “strap up”!

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    • michellc says:

      Unfortunately this goes back farther than this administration. The Laneys’ battle started during Clinton years and continued into the Bush years. He was even jailed charged with assaulting a federal officer(among other charges), his word against theirs, he would be brought into court shackled like a murderer. Eventually he got out of jail, ended up pleading to lesser charges. The last I heard of Kit Laney he had moved to Argentina. His government crushed him. I believe his words were, “They want rid of the ranchers, you can get egg on their face, but you can never defeat them.”

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  2. maryfrommarin says:

    “As flies to wanton boys are we to th’ gods.
    They kill us for their sport.”

    [Shakespeare, King Lear]

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  3. LetJusticePrevail" says:

    A few days ago, while we were discussing the standoff at the Bundy ranch, someone commented that the federal government cannot prevail against the ranchers if they all stand up to the defy the bureaucracy. And it sounded good, too, in light of the images flowing out of Bunkerville, NV.

    But here’s the problem with that line of thinking. The bureaucrats who launch these assaults have the nearly endless resources of all the various agencies they can muster, as well as the mercenary “contractors” they hire with tax dollars paid by the very ranchers they besiege. And, for all the heady talk after April 12th, the sad fact is that the men who assembled against the BLM were nearly the entire sum of people who were both willing AND able to take that stand. Yes, they came from far and wide to support the locals, and the Bundys themselves, but even then they were barely enough, and had to ask for donations of food, water, and other supplies to last these few days.

    Like Harry Reid said, it’s not over yet. How long can these people hold out before they’re forced to return to their own homes, their own jobs, and their own families? A few more days, or weeks? A couple of months? What happens then, after they leave, and the Feds return? How many will come back, even if they can? And, as you can see here, while all eyes were focused on Bunkerville, the very same thing happened to Kit Laney in NM, and no one knew anything about it. How many other ranchers or farmers are currently under siege this very moment, and are living in fear of losing their lands, their livelihoods, or even their very lives if the have the nerve to stand up like Cliven Bundy did?

    What good is one small victory, in one small skirmish, when our government is waging an open war throughout the west, every day? None, I would say, if this is where we let it end. There has to be more that can be done. More ways to organize, communicate, mobilize and fund raise for this cause. But the real battles are not on the dusty trails, or even in the sterile courtrooms. Those are defensive positions that will eventually be overrun or simply abandoned by a defeated people. The place for this war to be won is in the state and federal legislatures, with laws that cleanse this stain from our flag, and restores ownership of the land to the people who earned it by tending the cattle and growing the crops that fed us all.

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    • F.D.R. in Hell says:

      “state and federal legislatures (you’re joking)…with laws (you’re dreaming)…”

      This Administration has no respect for laws, if enacted, that would, if obeyed, impede their goals.

      Sadly, it’s 2014…not 1814…when the Star Spangled Banner was written:

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      • LetJusticePrevail" says:

        Sorry, but your link isn’t working any better than your logic. Just because these domestic environmental terrorists have managed to pervert the Endangered Species Act for their own evil use doesn’t mean they can’t be fought, and beaten, with the very same process they have used. Half of the cases we read about begin with court rulings about threatened species like the Delta Smelt, the Desert Tortoise, Prairie Chickens, Shortnose Sucker Fish, Northern Spotted Owls, or what have you.

        Remove or modify the ESA and the hands of the courts will be untied. If this is not done,then they will continue to prevail every time they get in front of a judge.

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        • F.D.R. in Hell says:

          At the risk of sharpening this to too fine a point, there’s no “logic” involved when it’s becoming clearer and clearer that the Legislature has no interest in unwinding the EPA, the ESA, the BLM, or any number of alphabet agencies or their subsets.

          Plus, any changed laws would be ignored by a government that considers itself above such trivialities.

          I’ll gladly buy tickets to watch your “removal or modification” theory implemented.
          Front row. 😉

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          • LetJusticePrevail" says:

            You seem to be forgetting that “The Legislature” is not an immutable, monolithic entity but, rather, a collection of representatives that are placed in office with votes. Maybe, just maybe, instead of buying tickets for your personal amusement, you and Eleanor can use that money to support candidates more sympathetic to, and knowledgeable of, the plight of the average farmer or rancher?

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    • F.D.R. in Hell says:

      …with all due respect, LJP. 😉

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    • michellc says:

      That’s the thing, this is just one battle in a long fought war, with most Americans totally unaware. What Bundy was able to do that no other rancher has seemed to be able to do is bring attention to it on a grand scale.
      Just pick a state and you can find ranchers who are either currently in their own battle or already lost their battle, a few have partially won their battles such as the Hage family and Idaho ranchers who won on water rights but have over a million dollars in legal fees.

      The government and environmental groups which are basically an extension of the government declared war years ago. When I say they are an extension, the government does a nod and wink, environmental group sues government, government settles then says this is what we got to do and environmental groups sue the ranchers, all the while the government funds their lawsuits.

      Your tax dollars at work, to the tune of over 4.5 billion between 2003 and 2007.

      http://www.idahofb.org/index.php?action=news.story&rowid=241

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      • F.D.R. in Hell says:

        The goal seems to be to eliminate private ranches and farms and to make America totally dependent on both imports and government-run facilities.

        If they control food and water… (you know the rest) 😦

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        • F.D.R. in Hell says:

          Don’t get me started on the “Hearts & Minds” rationing charade during World War II.

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        • Josh says:

          I agree FDR (you bastage!). Your comment, I believe, it what it’s all about – they want to control us as every level.

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        • LetJusticePrevail" says:

          “Government run facilities” or corporate conglomerates that lined the pockets of the politicians and who penned these laws, the bureaucrats who created the non-legislated “regulations” and the judges who allowed the original intentions of the people to be perverted into what we have today? I believe it’s more of the latter, than the former.

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      • LetJusticePrevail" says:

        You can castrate these environmental terrorists by modifying the ESA. It began as a legal debate, and it can be modified through one. But not in the courts where the precedents have already been set. Assail the law at its origin, in the legislature.

        http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1887&context=faculty_scholarship

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        • Sam says:

          Sigh. Good luck on modifying the ESA. The environmental extremists are very good at screaming hysterically that conservatives want to destroy (insert the species or locale here) and our side lamely responds that we are not. The ESA currently has no scientific basis from actual peer reviewed studies for declaring a species endangered and no real method of removing a species from an endangered or threatened status. It’s all done according to bureaucratic whim. That is what our legislators should have been working to fix, but only a few Western legislators know what’s wrong. The congresscritters east of the Missouri River don’t know and care less.

          So how can we help the ranchers today who are themselves endangered species? Good question other than continued good publicity and that will be on alternative media. I hate to say this on Easter Sunday but it will take much more of the kind of thing we see at the Bundy ranch. When one entire political party has decided to ignore the rule of law and even common decency, our political system is unable to cope. Our Founders never envisioned such a situation. I very much want a peaceful resolution but I don’t think the Democrats and their various extra-Constitutional paramilitaries are going to allow that.

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          • LetJusticePrevail" says:

            “and our side lamely responds that we are not”

            EXACTLY! This is the problem we face. It’s not enough to just recognize the machinations at work that are grinding down the country, and simply say “I Doth Protest!” (See how well THAT worked when the Progressives claimed that Conservatives opposed ObamaCare, yet offered no alternative? They were right about that -there was NO alternative offered- so the Conservative opposition was made to appear as purely political, and failed accordingly)

            And this is a characteristic of the Conservative mindset that is being exploited time and again by the Progressives. Since we oppose the expansion of government and regulation, we avoid the conversations of what should be regulated in favor of the position that nothing should be regulated. And once that position fails, we are consistently unprepared to argue how something, anything, will eventually be done. This leaves us vulnerable to the plotting of the Progressives who know they can convince the public that something has to be done, and the perception (which is often correct) that only the Progressives have a “shovel ready” plan.

            How long will they be allowed to define Conservatism in this manner? As long as we let them…

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        • michellc says:

          With all due respect, this battle has been fought for years, trying to elect legislatures sympathetic to farmers/ranchers, through the courts, public opinion has been tried but it’s hard when newspapers cover it on page 6 and then give both sides but the other side is always given a glowing report while your side is turned into the evil animal abuser, environment destroyer, law breaker, etc.
          This is the first time it has gotten national attention and outside of a few media outlets and blogs Bundy is still being spun as the evil person. At least though it is getting attention.
          There are groups in every state whose purpose is to try to get good people elected. However, have you ever sat and talked to a person who doesn’t know a cow from a goat and tried to explain farming and ranching to them and why it’s important to them? Let me just say that many just don’t get it and refuse to get it.
          I’m not saying that it can’t be changed through legislation, but do you not think ranchers and farmers and rural America hasn’t known that and they haven’t tried to do just what you say?
          There are some very intelligent people out there who have been at the front line fighting this battle for years. They can tell you every avenue, every law, every loophole, every angle along with tell you every small aspect of ranching and farming.
          Just like with Obama and Republicans, it’s easy to say we must stop them and we must elect true conservatives and Patriots, but saying it and doing it are two different things.

          I’m not saying it’s totally hopeless and I’m not saying don’t fight, but while we’re fighting somewhere out there is another family like the Bundys going to bed with worry tonight what the government is going to do tomorrow.
          I’m also not saying I have the answers, I know the problem and I know the solution to the problem, but actually solving it is another thing altogether because it depends on getting people to vote and then it depends on the men and women you elect following through with their promises.

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      • auscitizenmom says:

        I have tried researching ranchers who have been driven off their land and haven’t come up with anything much. But, then, I’m not very good at it.

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        • Josh says:

          “While reports that the Los Zetas Cartel has seized US ranches in Texas are exaggerated, it’s not totally false.”

          Los Zetas Drug Cartel Seizes Ranches In Texas Not True? Well……. [2010-July-24]
          http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=6791

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        • nyetneetot says:

          Hmmmm. You would need to start by looking for data unrelated to ranching first (per state). US Census data first, because you need to go back several generations.
          College thesis work without the unnecessary college.

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        • michellc says:

          It’s very difficult, I know of so many, but can’t find their stories online. The reason is the media doesn’t cover many of them.
          There is a person though who is working on compiling a list and putting them online along with court documents, dates, personal accounts, etc. It’s a lot of time consuming work.

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  4. benzy says:

    The part that scares me more than any other of the Bundy ranch situation… and one which gets very little ink or air time. Why does the Bureau of LAND MANAGEMENT have armed forces and snipers??????????????? I spent the bulk of my professional career in one form or MANAGEMENT or another and NEVER ONCE found the need for snipers.

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    • F.D.R. in Hell says:

      Why does the National Weather Service need ammo?
      To provide cover for forecasters whose accuracy falls to zero beyond three days?

      Now, on the other hand, the 16,000 shotguns for the IRS is becoming increasingly clear.
      🙂

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  5. doodahdazee says:

    If ever we get control we should invent the Washington DC Skunk Rat. It inhabits all the agencies. Declare it endangered and send the Varmints packing.

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  6. With our cattle herds at their lowest levels since the early 1950s, it makes no sense for the Government to make it harder for cattlemen to raise cattle…unless the real goal is to reduce us to starvation, food-wise, as they seem to be doing with our jobs, our money, our health care, etc., etc.

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    • czarowniczy says:

      A part of the Greenie’s and animal right’s folks agenda is to reduce methane production and the social oppression of feedstock through the banning of large-scale commercial livestock farming. A number of committees over the decades in useless internationalist control and confiscation (my personal opinion there) organizations have been whining about the Western (read as US) meat-heavy diet and how wasteful it is to use all of the range land to feed cattle when it could be used to more efficiently produce nummy stuff like soy, quinoa and other lip-smacking and nutritious superfood crops instead. These more sustainable and morally acceptable crops (their opinion, not mine) could be used to feed millions more people in other countries such as those ruled by despots such as many of those in the UN. Of course the leaders in these countries and their toadies in the UN and governments will still have to eat meat, drink wine and generally live as they do now as it is soooooooo nutritionally challenging to lead a few million mouthbreathers (sorry of this sounds like the Obamas) but the rest of us will have our soyleangrain to eat.

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      • auscitizenmom says:

        I haven’t eaten beef in 40 years. I have tried all the vegetarian stuff, too, like the quinoa and huumus and don’t really care for most of it. My point is I don’t think any of these measures are to save the world, they are just to accumulate wealth for those in control.

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        • czarowniczy says:

          These measures to ‘save the world’ designed to save the world for selected folk. I eat local beef that’s pasture-raised and processed at a small, local, private abattoir so I’m rather sure it hasn’t been hosed-down with hormones and/or antibiotics. I also have my local deer/hog with the option of possum. raccoon, rabbit or other assorted rodents for special occasions such as when guests say they are coming. Needless to say they don’t say they’re coming as often now.

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          • auscitizenmom says:

            😆

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            • czarowniczy says:

              Jimmy Carter: “Eat More Possum”

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              • LetJusticePrevail" says:

                Yuck. Possum and ‘dillo are greasy and rabbit is tooooo lean. I prefer squirrel (but ya gotta drop ’em with the first shot. If ya run ’em from tree to tree they cook up kinda stringy)

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                • czarowniczy says:

                  Not much of a ‘dillo fan (gotta watch how I spell that) but possum and coon can be grilled over an open coal bed and the grease just drops right off. I still have some of my mother’s main-line cookbooks (Fannie Farmer, et al) that have ‘bush meat’ recipes in them. then there’s my Larousse Gastrnomique that has recipes for animals and parts of animals you never though could be cooked. As for squirrel I’ve geberally found it takes more calories to shoot and prepare them than one gets from eating them – though I saw some in a Denver park that just might be menu-capable.

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                • nyetneetot says:

                  😯 Exactly how many more shots at a squirrel do you get with that hog’s leg 44 you’re using?

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                • auscitizenmom says:

                  My question is, how much squirrel would be left after the first shot?

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                • LetJusticePrevail" says:

                  I learned (the hard way) that hunting squirrels with a pistol is “tricky business”. Those little varmints make for such tiny targets! I much prefer a .22 rifle for it’s accuracy, and it’s got more than enough stopping power and doesn’t do that much damage if ya have to take a body shot. The .38 just blew ’em to smithereens. Unless you like hair filled “Squirrel Tartare” stick with the .22.

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          • @czaro
            Like that! We fed unwanted diner drop-ins testicles (fried) and gar balls
            (also fried). Saved deer and other delightful forest and water dwellers for the family. Great site. Thank you to Sundance and all commentors. A bit of sanity in our new world. Bless you all.

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            • czarowniczy says:

              Now down heuh we eats gar, smaller ones though. Wanna really discourage them unwanted diners jes serve ’em gar caviar – it will put you in a permanent dirt nap. DO NOT eat gar eggs (yes, someone does try it ever so often). Geez, there’s your next little-known-fact for the next suburban EST meeting.

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                • czarowniczy says:

                  My batter’s made from corn FLOUR and regular flour but sometimes rice flour. Instead of creole seasoning I get a good dry (not the bottled liquid) crab boil (Rex or Zaterains), whizz it down in my coffee grinder until it’s a fine powder (works wonders on your sinuses) – add to your tongue’s breaking point. Some garlic and onion powder too – then right into that hot hot peanut oil. If you want the best outside deep frier and have a welder you’re friendly with get the welder to make you a frying pot out of heavy, thick-walled steel pipe. That’s where the big Creole boilers/friers started, oilfield welders making them up. Best fried anything I’ve ever eaten came out of them. May cost you a wee bit more than the Chinese boiler/frier crap you buy in the Big Box stores but they hold/distribute the heat better and it will last for generations. Oh yeah, you can grind the gar and mix it with crab too.

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        • Crystal says:

          Bingo! Wealth, power, control (particularly population control). Vast swaths of land at their disposal and a giant serfdom to accommodate their every need and whim. The middle class is being destroyed.

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  7. czarowniczy says:

    This is part of his greater flexibility post-election, he has no need to blow smoke up the posteriors of the electorate so now he can push his agenda – as he said he would – through dictates from the throne. At this juncture he can get his little fascist bureaugnomes in the agencies such as BoI to start using obscure laws/regulations or applying less arcane controls in new ways. There will be two choices: one is to just bite the pillow and two will be to resist. In either case you will play into his plans – and if the end game doesn’t come about in this Administration I’m sure Hillary with her well-financed social revisionist hubby will be glad to put on a pair of fashionable jack boots. There have been lots of little bureaucrats in the BoI for decades who’ve been getting back at those folks who pantsed of stuffed them into lockets during high school – now they have support from the ofaycial nemesis of the evil blue-eyed devils and they’re on a roll.
    Note that the BoI and these other agencies have been relatively quiet until the POtuS’s recoronation as he tried to lubricate his social agenda through Congress. Now that’s over these little maggots are crawling out of the Administration’s rotted core. This ain’t the end of it. BTW, check to see if your state has a legal provision banning a private state militia – some do. Nothing against reenactors or fraternal shooting organizations though.

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  8. James says:

    Excuse me. I don’t know a lot about the law, have a limited knowledge of the US Constitution and I’m not a rancher. But what I think I know is that the Federal agencies, like the BLM, are violating the Constitution with Ex-Post Facto violations. Why don’t ranchers band together, since many of them can trace their heritages back to when their land use was under the Homestead Acts, giving them use of Federal lands? They should take their disagreements straight to the US Supreme Court. From what I’ve read so far, there is no way they could lose and that would put an end to the encroachment of Federal agencies, like the BLM, on their rights. I have learned what they’re up against, having viewed the Wayne Hage interviews, but they really need to band together in a class action suit so they don’t go broke individually. Wayne Hage got a lot of BLM employees fired, and a US Supreme court decision in their favor would get a lot more of them fired, were they to continue their current tactics. That’s what is needed, to get rid of the bad actors in these agencies.

    Unfortunately, on this message board, and elsewhere, I have seen NO mention of the Homestead Acts, which means to me that people who are opposing the outrageous tactics of the BLM are not aware of the Homestead laws. Anyone opposing the rule of law would get put in their place and condemned for their actions. Where am I wrong about this?

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  9. Gunny G says:

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  10. Josh says:

    I agree with the person who stated they like the picture in this article:
    http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2014/04/bundy-supporters-party-welcome-domestic.html

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  11. Josh says:

    “The Environmental Protection Agency is set to issue regulations that farmers like Mr. Lemke say may require them to get permits for work for which they have long been exempt.”

    “There is no timetable for when the rules will be released. But if the agency expands its jurisdiction over streams like the one on Mr. Lemke’s farm, he and other farmers say, the move could prove costly by requiring farmers to pay fees for environmental assessments and to get permits just to till the soil near gullies, ditches or dry streambeds where water only flows when it rains.”

    “ … planting seasons could be delayed while the agency [EPA] goes through the lengthy process to decide if a permit is needed to plow or plant near those usually dry water beds. “Everything we do as farmers is based on timing,” he said. “If I have to go to the E.P.A. to figure out if I need a permit because a ditch I’m planting next to sometimes has water in it, that’s time I’m not planting. And if I’m not planting, I’m not making money.”

    E.P.A.’s Proposed Rules on Water Worry Farmers [2014-Mar-12]
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/13/us/politics/environmental-protection-agency-water-rules.html?ref=ronnixon&_r=1

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  12. BertDilbert says:

    Yeah apparently the lowest beef heard population since 1951 is not good enough for Obama. I suppose that hassling ranchers is a way to ensure that there is a chicken in every pot. Personally I would prefer a steak on every BBQ. Is disparate impact applying here? I bet most ranchers are republicans….

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    • LetJusticePrevail" says:

      Maybe this explains why the ZERO wants to draw down the size of the US military to pre-WWII levels. Disparate Impact on the cows… fair is fair, right?

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  13. Josh says:

    I often find it difficult to whittle down an article. This is one of those cases.

    “The Obama administration … announced a strategy to start slashing emissions of methane, a powerful greenhouse gas released by landfills, cattle, and leaks from oil and natural gas production.”

    White House Unveils Plans to Cut Methane Emissions [2014-March-28]
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/29/us/politics/white-house-unveils-plans-to-to-cut-methane-emissions.html?hpw&rref=politics

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    • LetJusticePrevail" says:

      Well, let’s look at the 4 steps he is taking:

      (First note that allof this will be done through his agencies, and will allegedly be done under the color of existing law. Which really means, done with a stroke of his pen)

      Among the steps the administration announced on Friday to address methane pollution:

      ■ The Interior Department will propose updated standards to reduce venting and flaring of methane from oil and gas production on public lands.

      ■ In April, the Interior Department’s Bureau of Land Management will begin to gather public comment on the development of a program for the capture and sale of methane produced by coal mines on lands leased by the federal government.

      ■ This summer, the E.P.A. will propose updated standards to reduce methane emissions from new landfills and take public comment on whether to update standards for existing landfills.

      ■ In June, the Agriculture Department, the Energy Department and the E.P.A. will release a joint “biogas road map” aimed at accelerating adoption of methane digesters, machines that reduce methane emissions from cattle, in order to cut dairy-sector greenhouse gas emissions by 25 percent by 2020.

      This translates to:

      1) Measures taken to restrict domestic production of fossil fuels. (keeping us dependent on foreign oil and driving up costs to consumers)

      2) More restrictions on coal mining (gotta keep those Arabs awash in US dollars- Cloward Piven strategy at play)

      3) More controls on waste (keeps the environmentalists behind him)

      4) “Methane Digesters” will be required (added costs will drive the average ranchers out of business, or at least give BLM/DoI another reason to “insert” themselves into the lives of ranchers that aren’t dependent on federal lands for grazing purposes)

      And just one note about #4. Do they seriously think they can eliminate cow farts with a machine? What will it amount to? Will it be necessary to keep all cattle in air tight enclosures with air scrubbers at every exhaust vent? Imagine the cost!

      Or will it amount to hoses with balloons on one end, and cows on the other? Jimminy Cricket! Our pastures will look like the beaches at Normandy, with clouds of “Barrage Balloons” overhead!

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      • Josh says:

        auscitizenmom questioned above about “…researching ranchers who have been driven off their land…”. I tried to assist and ended up on so many tangents. This was one of them. One (just one) of my questions on this article was who won the contract with the federal government to supply “methane digesters”? I ended up tangent-ing again.

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        • LetJusticePrevail" says:

          Well, I was being facetious about the “barrage balloon” thingy, but I have to admit ignorance about the technology surrounding “Methane Digester” technology, so I Googled the term and discovered that the actual method of processing of manure, (the average dairy cow produces 100lbs of manure, daily).

          http://www.vlt.org/news-publications/publications-archive/archived-articles/methane-digesters

          I’m not certain if the federal government has issued a contract for the supply of “Methane Digesters” or if they will simply mandate that they be in use, and will determine compliance by visiting various properties and measuring the amount of manure that is allowed to go unprocessed. The technology doesn’t seem to be very intense or advanced, but I can see how the expense to implement it could put a small operator out of business.

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      • John Galt says:

        Let’s get this methane under control. The next ice age is overdue. Just think, ice could be at least 1,000 feet thick in NYC.

        http://www.sott.net/article/203434-Croat-scientist-warns-ice-age-is-overdue-could-start-in-five-years

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    • Note the MSM complicity: “…a powerful greenhouse gas…” Also note use of courts – how long ago was it that a court (was it a Court of Appeals?) held that CO2 (!) was a greenhouse gas. So, now we have CO (methane) and CO2 (carbon dioxide) listed as poisons (greenhouse gases.) Next up: nitrogen. What is the composition of the air we breathe? Oh, right…

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    • F.D.R. in Hell says:

      Luckily, it’s not helium…
      http://phys.org/news135003243.html

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      • LetJusticePrevail" says:

        Those poor cows.

        In their study, the researchers attached balloon-like plastic packs to the backs of at least 10 cows. A tube running to the animals´ stomachs collected the gas inside the backpacks, which were then hung from the roof of the corral for analysis.

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  14. Josh says:

    Interesting…
    The Government’s War on Property ~ Jarret B. Wollstein [1993-July-01]
    http://www.fee.org/the_freeman/detail/the-governments-war-on-property/

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  15. Josh says:

    Another bad guy’s ranch was seized (like Warren Jeffs). I understand the Feds taking the property but I believe they should, in turn, sell it and not keep it.

    “Stewart Bost bought a place in Wyoming with his ill-gotten gains, then was caught and imprisoned for cocaine smuggling. The government seized the property. Now, it’s leased to the Audubon Society.”

    Drug Dealer’s Ranch Is for the Birds [2001-Feb-11]
    http://articles.latimes.com/2001/feb/11/local/me-23885

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    • LetJusticePrevail" says:

      I agree with you about this tendency for the government to absorb more and more property. Extrapolated to the extreme conclusion, the government will eventually hold the title to every square inch of land and WE will be the cattle.

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  16. Josh says:

    “The specter of condemnation hangs over all property. Nothing is to prevent the State from replacing any Motel 6 with a Ritz-Carlton, any home with a shopping mall, or any farm with a factory. ~ Justice Sandra Day O’Connor

    Remember the [Susette] Kelo vs New London [CT] case? There is a great video about the case here:
    http://www.cato.org/events/little-pink-house-true-story-defiance-courage

    “For a compelling account of the history and back-story of the New London controversy, read Jeff Benedict’s “Little Pink House: A True Story of Defiance and Courage” published in 2009 by Grand Central Publishing.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “Susette Kelo received notice of condemnation from the NLDC (New London Development Corporation) the day before Thanksgiving 2000.”

    “Meanwhile, in New London, the Fort Trumbull project has been a dismal failure. After spending close to 80 million in taxpayer money, there has been no new construction whatsoever and the neighborhood is now a barren field. In 2009, Pfizer, the lynchpin of the disastrous economic development plan, announced that it was leaving New London for good, just as its tax breaks are set to expire.

    http://www.ij.org/kelo-v-new-london

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    • LetJusticePrevail" says:

      That CATO Institute video was a long watch (1hr20min) but well worth the time to get a better understanding of the abuses of Eminent Domain and the true implications of the Supreme Court ruling in Kelo v NLDC. Thanks for the link.

      Even though the video is 5 yrs old (2009) it’s still important to note that even now, in 2014, that piece of land lies totally undeveloped and there don’t appear to be any new investors willing to become associated with it, largely due to the negative stigma. It also appears that banks and lending institutions shy away from it for similar reasons.

      The “Little Pink House” was torn down and rebuilt on donated land, and is the only structure that survived. Allother homes and buildings fell under the bulldozers. The only bright note is that, thanks to the publicity and activism surrounding this case, more than 40 states passed new legislation to restrict (but not entirely stop) the abuses of Eminent Domain.

      So you see, sometime Legislatures CAN be shamed or compelled into doing the right thing. But it takes heroes like Suzette Kelo and Cliven Bundy to stand firm, and it takes the support of the rest of us to “follow through” even when the original cause is lost.

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  17. John Galt says:

    $40,950 to round up 80 cattle. LOL. Every fifteen year old kid with a horse and a couple of good dogs would be rich.

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