Tuesday Open Thread – January 1st Happy New Year

Tomb of the Unknown ChristmasOur Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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69 Responses to Tuesday Open Thread – January 1st Happy New Year

  1. maggiemoowho says:

    I’m just posting a link to this horrendous crime. A 22 yr old PA women was raped and beaten for hours by 3 black males ages 19 and 2-17 yr olds on Christmas day. Not much attention if any from the National Media.


  2. WeeWeed says:

    “Americans Never Give Up Your Guns” …… from Pravda.



  3. thebardofmurdock says:

    Happy New Year everyone! God Bless us, one and all!


  4. WeeWeed says:

    An interesting post at lame cherry.


    “..The cartel for Obama just neutralized Hillary Clinton for 2016.”


    • ctdar says:

      Thx Wee for link; forgot about Casey….just did quick research & added others to the growing group tho I’m sure there are more. The future will tell Clintons fate.
      Richard Holbrooke
       In January 2009, Holbrooke was appointed as a special adviser on Pakistan and Afghanistan, working under President Barack Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
      On December 11, 2010, Holbrooke was admitted to George Washington University Hospital in Washington after falling ill at the State Department’s headquarters.[48] While there, he underwent twenty hours of surgery to fix an aortic dissection, a rare condition.[49]
      Holbrooke died on December 13, 2010, from complications of the torn aorta.[49] Holbrooke’s last words before being sedated for surgery, which have been clarified to have been a comical interchange with his doctor, were: “You’ve got to end this war in Afghanistan.”
      Ron Brown 
      Brown carried an offer for normalizing relations between the U.S. and the former communist enemy. When details of the meetings and subsequent offer were linked to the press President Clinton denied it. Brown was scheduled to testify before a House committee but died in a plane crash prior to when he was to appear
      Vince Foster
      He knew all the Clinton secrets & gave his famous last words in supposed suicide note
      ….”I was not meant for the job or the spotlight of public life in Washington. Here ruining people is considered sport.”
      William Casey
      Hours before Casey was scheduled to testify before Congress related to his knowledge of Iran-Contra, he was reported to have been rendered incapable of speech, and was later hospitalized. In a 1987 book, Veil: The Secret Wars of the CIA 1981-1987, Washington Post, reporter, and biographer, Bob Woodward, who had interviewed Casey on a number of occasions for the biography, said that he had gained entry into Casey’s hospital room for a final, four-minute encounter—a claim which was met with disbelief in many quarters as well as an adamant denial from Casey’s wife, Sofia. According to Woodward, when Casey was asked if he knew about the diversion of funds to the Nicaraguan Contras, “His head jerked up hard. He stared, and finally nodded yes.”

      And finally the most famous untimely political murder with link to famous 
      “Wanted for Treason” handbill that was circulated 1 day before 11/22/1963 
      John F Kennedy


    • howie says:

      Doubt it. She has no brain.


      • Menagerie says:

        howie, I oughta feel guilty about laughing out loud at that, but I just can’t. Ya got me.


      • Arkindole says:

        HA! You’re hot today Howie! Luv it.
        “Mr. Rubio was one of just eight senators to vote against the legislation, which cleared in an easy 89-8 vote just after 2 a.m. on New Year’s Day.”

        Tell them it’s your understanding that there are at least 8 Americans (currently) on board.
        Let’s move on to the guns now.


        • howie says:

          Tune in on C-Span. Not often you get to see a whole major political party commit suicide live on tv. This will beat the Bowl Games. They are collaborating. Calling Kavorkian! The dopes think that this will let them escape the “blame” of the MSM. Imbeciles are running the GOP asylum.


  5. stellap says:

    And the Washington Times reports Hillary will be fully recovered in no time:



      • stellap says:

        I saw that one too. I was going to post it on FB, but I chickened out.


      • Auntie Lib says:

        Wow. That actually makes more sense than anything else. Just wow.


      • Josh says:

        “After emergency aid was given, GRU agents stationed in Iran state that another US military flight was dispatched from Bahrain to Ahwaz which evacuated all of those wounded and killed in the crash including Secretary Clinton.”

        After reading the line above I immediately thought “from your lips to G-d’s ears” but then I remembered in a prayer to my G-d just yesterday asking forgiveness for my thoughts. I’m only human and sometimes mean thoughts enter my brain. I (try to) wish no ill upon anyone but… I am only human. G-d forgive me.

        “…if Secretary Clinton’s mission was meant to forestall such a war it is not in our knowing, other than to note, that with the United States continued backing of some of the cruelest dictatorships in the world, our entire planet is but one spark away from a fire that could very well consume us all.”

        Even if I have to read it in a foreign newspaper, I am glad that someone is writing logically.


  6. cajunkelly says:


    A great article re gun control vs those deadly high speed cars. How about car control?


    • michellc says:

      Reason will never work with them, because they honestly don’t care about guns or the loss of life.
      I think we should take a page out of their book and start using fear as a weapon like they do.


  7. Josh says:

    I do believe a hatching is in progress:
    Eagle Cam / North Fort Myers /Dick Pritchett Real Estate


  8. Arkindole says:

    From outen the web somewhere:

    Firehand says:
    December 31, 2012 at 9:04 pm
    Hit my local range this morning: 9:30am and there was a 30-45 minute wait for a lane. Lots of people buying stuff(not ARs or such, those were gone last week), and the reloading counter had a ’1 bottle of each powder and 1 brick of each primers per customer’ limit.

    And I don’t think these people are buying stuff so they can turn it in…

    NumberTwo says:
    January 1, 2013 at 12:38 am
    Firehand, well put. Some of us were buying stuff to make sure we keep the stuff we already bought.



  9. The Tundra PA says:

    While I want to send a hearty wish to all my dear Treepers for a happy and prosperous new year–and I do–I am also finding that on this New Year’s Day I am so much less hopeful and optimistic for what the year will bring than I have ever been. I am naturally an optimistic person, a Pollyanna even. But since the reelection of Zero in November, I’m having a hard time finding the silver lining in the dark cloud that is over us. We’re facing really tough times, and very soon. Make no mistake, I have absolute faith in our country, in the indominable spirit of the American people. We will not just survive, we will prevail. We will restore our great nation to its rightful place as the Hope of the World. But I must be realistic that there is a rough patch ahead of us to get there. I thank God every day for the blessed refuge of sanity that The Treehouse provides. It is because of all of you, led by our wonderful Admins, that I do not despair completely. May God bless you, each and every one!


  10. The Tundra PA says:

    My reading lately has tended to fall under the category of Downer Realism, but given the magnitude of what we’re up against, it feels appropriate to me. I’m currently about half way through Glenn Beck’s new book Agenda 21, and wow, if that doesn’t take your breath away, you must not be breathing.

    In keeping with my current theme, I was intrigued by an article on a link that Stella provided in Sunday’s open thread. The website is http://www.shtfplan.com (I’m barely functional on this new iPad, typing out the URL is the best I can do); the article has a long title that begins “DHS Insider Report” and is just below the fold of the center pane. It is an interview by Doug Hagmann, the Canada Free Press writer we were discussing here recently for his Intelligence Insider interviews. This one is similar, with someone from Dept. of Homeland Security. It is a big “Holy Crap!” and a must-read.

    Okay, Debbie Downer signing off now.


    • Sharon says:

      I read that DHS report a few days back…and I agree with you: Downer Realism is completely appropriate. As long as I keep my head focused on responding with what I am actually able to do instead of reacting in fear, panic or rage over a bunch of stuff that I can’t do anything about. “Good stuff”—horrible stuff, actually, but we need to know as much as we are able to deal with and prepare for.


  11. Sharon says:


    Oh, gee. Didn’t see this coming! (actually, I did…) It will be SO easy for the world government to control individuals…so very easy. You won’t be getting that prescription filled unless you are in compliance in all things you need to be in compliance about, y’see.


  12. ThatOldGuy says:

    Bit of an update, and then a bit of a rant, but I gotta get this out:


    I always thought that fingerprinting was reserved for criminals.

    Some of the more disgusting parts of the the bill that Feinstein will propose on Congress’ reconvention on 3 January 2013 are:

    -Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include:
    Background check of owner and any transferee;
    +Type and serial number of the firearm;
    +Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;
    +Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and
    +Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration

    In addition, 120 firearms will be outright banned, “including semiautomatic rifles, handguns, and shotguns that can accept detachable and fixed magazines and have ‘one military characteristic.’

    I wonder if “one military characteristic” includes having “modern stock” or “looks scary.”

    This *ain’t* in keeping with the second amendment.

    The problem is not solely that tragedies, like what happened at Newtown, involve guns. These events are heterogeneous and involve a range of complexities.

    For instance, how much have we heard the MSM talk about the anti-psychotic drug FANAPT that Lanza was prescribed (http://www.businessinsider.com/adam-lanza-taking-antipsychotic-fanapt-2012-12#ixzz2FSZO0PiX)? The drug was even initially rejected by the FDA (don’t get me started on them) due to the side effects the drug causes, and competitors were concerned in producing it because it exacerbates the conditions it intends to moderate. It seems to me that this drug is at least *somewhat* involved in what happened. I guess the agendas of the media and the crooks in DC think otherwise. After all, healthcare is increasingly becoming socialized, and medical culture is increasingly leaning to “there’s a drug for that.”

    Regarding FANAPT, drugs.com says: Psychiatric side effects including restlessness, aggression, and delusion have been reported frequently. Hostility, decreased libido, paranoia, anorgasmia, confusional state, mania, catatonia, mood swings, panic attack, obsessive-compulsive disorder, bulimia nervosa, delirium, polydipsia psychogenic, impulse-control disorder, and major depression have been reported infrequently.

    Some of these look concerning and probably did contribute to Lanza’s actions. But the story has little to do with the drugs that change chemical processes in the brain. No, the guns are the problem. If only guns were made illegal, then tragedies and massacres would not happen.

    What a pleasant fiction.

    People who want to kill, will find ways to kill. The biggest tragedy that occurred in America in my lifetime, that left 3,000 dead within hours, was carried out with box-cutters. Bombs can be made from manure. Chainsaws, axes, and sledgehammers can be bought at hardware stores with some cash. In the days after the Newtown shootings, a man walked into a store, poured gasoline on the woman at the register, held up a lighter and said “Empty the register.” Killers will find a way to kill– and they don’t much give a damn what the law has to say about it. Law-abiding citizens will follow the laws, crooks will obtain firearms illegally. And then the law-abiding citizens will resent that they followed the law, and will be rendered unequal to the criminals who didn’t. As Frederic Bastiat says,

    Sadly, those who favor gun ownership (and property rights) are at a disadvantage here.

    A story like what happened in Colorado, in Newton, at Columbine and elsewhere is the story that grips the nation. The MSM feeds on the fear in these stories and people cry out for something to be done, epitomized in this absolutely sickening, emotionally-driven, idiotic, and straight-up *dangerous* commercial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64G5FfG2Xpg

    They have no idea what should be done, but Congress must do “it.” They just have to do *something* and disasters like this will just go away.

    The disaster is what is seen.

    What is unseen are the stories of the disasters that “weren’t.”

    The old lady who plugged an invader that tried to rob her house in the middle of the night? That might be in the local newspaper the next day. The idiot crook who called the cops because he was worried that the people inside the house (the one he was planning of b&e-ing) had a gun? That story is relegated to an obscure internet page. How about the Appalachian Law School shooting where deaths and injuries were limited because two students ran to their cars, grabbed their guns (unaware of each other) and held the assailant at gunpoint until authorities arrived? That’s on Wikipedia. Or the shooting at Pearl High in Texas, where the Vice Principal chased off the kid with a .45 and helped to detain him until police arrived? That’s on a right-wing page on facebook.

    These are the stories that are unseen.

    The MSM doesn’t really care for the stories where the bad guy didn’t quite get away with something sensational. It might get a mention, but it’s the tragedies among these events that spark “debate” and move the “discussion” to a place where the intellectually bankrupt media pundit, and his trusty sidekick Sycophant, get to talk about how *certain* it is that the world would be a better place if only guns were banned. “Why can’t the Americans learn that Europe has it so much better (ha!) without their weapons? The answer, to prevent these tragedies, is so obvious that it really is a shame that those conservatives and those libertarians just don’t get it. The purpose for guns in the second amendment was for hunting and fishing and for a nationally regulated military– this is spelled out right next to the section on the individual mandate for healthcare services. It makes no sense for citizens to own ‘military-grade’ firearms; that’s just malicious and irresponsible. Those guns kill people all own their own. Those are ‘assault rifles.’ They do more damage than ‘assault hands’ and ‘assault hammers.’ C’mon now.. can’t we just stop the violence?”

    In a way, the government really has it figured out.

    Socialize the healthcare system. Ingrain this idea, that there’s a drug for every ailment, in the system (with disregard for the numerous potentially homicidal culminating side-effects with which each drug is riddled) and give doctors the incentives to prescribe these drugs. After all, quotas and actions are what matter, not results– this ain’t a market. There isn’t enough “doing” happening. Shocking numbers of Americans are on drugs which pertain to mental disorders; these people cannot be allowed to purchase guns, that’s irresponsible. Does it matter if someone is prescribed drugs but does not take them? Does it matter if someone disputes that they need drugs for an ailment, if they believe they have one? Does it matter if someone was taking drugs but is no longer taking them? Meh, let the politicians figure that one out; they know what’s best for freedom and safety. Any firearms that those patients own ought to be stripped from them in order to prevent disaster. Non-patients who own guns will simply have to be fingerprinted, photographed, and stored in government databases. For America.

    Do I have this about right?


    • ThatOldGuy says:

      Just now realized that I left out what Bastiat says! Zut!

      As Frederic Bastiat says,

      “When law and morality contradict each other, the citizen has the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense or losing his respect for the law.”


      • Sharon says:

        Excellent quote, and in addition to what you posted above, yeah, that about nails it.


        • ThatOldGuy says:

          It figures that I usually notice my errors after I post. I just scanned my response and, sure enough, I started a sentence and didn’t finish it. :/ haha


          • Sharon says:

            Common affliction! Welcome to the tree–find yourself a branch to your liking….’smores around the campfire whenever it seems like it’s time for that…the bar is open whenever Tilda or WeeWeed think it needs to (Friday nights for sure) and the Diet Coke is in the big cooler at at the foot of the big tree over there by the stream…..

            …..the welcome applies to all fellow patriots who are new to the Tree. Don’t just lurk! Jump in!


  13. ctdar says:

    First the Twinkee now the 75 Watt lightbulb…what’s next 😦


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