The Politics Of “The Nevada Bundy Ranch Standoff”…

In a general sense the political left, and more specifically Democrats, have done an exceptional job of brainwashing two generations of U.S. citizens into thinking the far right (Conservative-Republican) is the origin of deadly governmental conflict.

Perhaps it’s prudent to remind everyone that Democrats are the only political ideology in modern history who have openly used force to mass murder large numbers of citizens into compliance.    There are essentially three modern examples (in the past 30 years) where the US government has intentionally killed U.S. citizens.

Two of those examples, Philadelphia (Pennsylvania) and Waco (Texas),  resulted in mass casualty events with the authorized full scale use of fire bombs, snipers, tanks and various mechanized weaponry against civilians.

Move 1 First – The 1985 dropping of a gel based hydrogen bomb against “MOVE” in Philadelphia by Democrat Wilson Goode.   In that example the Mayor ordered a National Guard and Police helicopter to air drop an explosive bomb onto the squatters inside a Philadelphia housing complex. SecondThe Assassination at Ruby Ridge ordered by GHW Bush and William Barr in 1992.   In that example they ordered Federal Snipers to shoot and kill Randy Weaver and his family (2 killed, 2 wounded)  under the auspices of the Weaver family illegally owning firearms.

ThirdWACO Texas massacre at the Branch Davidian compound.   Where Democrat Bill Clinton and Janet Reno carried out the largest full scale slaughter of citizens.   Federal agents killed 76 men, women and children  in 1993.

So as you watch the events unfold “right now” at the Bundy Ranch in Nevada – it’s prudent to consider that yet again another Democrat administration is in power, and yet again there is a potential tinderbox where a large scale murder is a concerning consequence of an out of control government intent on exhibiting its oppression and strength.

The Bundy Summary

It is a sad yet typical reality you won’t find any of those supposed “civil rights” leftist types putting forth any effort to stop a Democrat in office from killing people.   This time around Barack Obama and Eric Holder replace Clinton and Reno.

While it might be hip and cool to think that Democrats are the “free love” party of social liberation – the actual and empirical evidence is 180° divergent.

The ‘liberal social policies’, which Democrats proclaim to support, are mere masks used to hide the real nature of Big Government Totalitarianism enforcers who will literally and actually kill people if they fail to conform to their federal demands.

The mainstream media are to the cause of Democrats – what CAIR is to the cause of radical Muslim extremists;   propagandist tools, deflectors and apologists who hide the actual goals of the Big Government Power elite.

The academic indoctrination machines of higher education journalism schools churn out the reporters/journalists who exit with a diploma and an embedded ideological script.   If, after years of saturation, one of them dare begin to question the construct of the ruse they end up like Sharyl Attkisson.

Think about that as you consider the Bundy Ranch Patriots ! 

e6f1c-000 NEVADA – From near and wide, armed men are trickling toward Cliven Bundy’s ranch, where the rancher’s fight with the federal government has become a rallying cry for militia groups across the United States.

On Wednesday, that dispute teetered at the edge of deadly conflict, when Cliven Bundy’s family members and supporters scuffled with rangers from the Bureau of Land Management sent to protect the federal roundup of Bundy’s cattle on public land.

One of Bundy’s seven sons was shot with a stun gun, and Bundy’s sister was knocked to the ground; but no one was seriously hurt, and no arrests were made.

By late Wednesday, three militia members — two from Montana and one from Utah — had arrived at the ranch 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas. Other militia groups have inundated the Bundy household with calls and pledges to muster at the site.

Their stated goal: to protect the Bundys from tyranny. They say they are prepared for armed confrontation, but they insist they will not be the instigators if bloodshed happens. Ryan Payne and Jim Lardy, members of the West Mountain Rangers, made the 12-hour drive from western Montana on Tuesday night.

Payne is also a coordinator with Operation Mutual Aid, a national association that describes itself as a coalition of state militias.

bundy 1 “They all tell me they are in the process of mobilizing as we speak,” Payne said. He didn’t put a specific estimate on how many militia members may come, but he said the groups expected are from places like New Hampshire, Texas and Florida and could number in the hundreds.

“We need to be the barrier between the oppressed and the tyrants,” he said. “Expect to see a band of soldiers.”

Payne, 30, and Lardy, 49, both wore holstered handguns as they spoke, but they downplayed the display of firepower. They wear their weapons daily. They say the goals are for no one to be harmed, the Bundy family to be protected, and the Bundy property restored.

For now, the militia members will camp on the Bundy ranch. They say the issue isn’t about cattle or grazing rights; it’s about constitutional rights. “We’re not anti-government,” said Lardy, who cuts firewood for a living. “We’re anti-corrupt government.”

Stephen Dean, 45, an artist from Utah, said he made the trip in hopes of heading off another Ruby Ridge or Waco, referring to deadly confrontations involving federal agents in Idaho in 1992 and in Texas in 1993.

A member of the People’s United Mobile Armed Services, Dean said he also carries weapons more powerful than his firearms: a camera and the Internet. Those tools will document the plight of the Bundy ranch and bring the issue to light, he said. “I’m here to see it does happen differently.”

Serious bloodshed was narrowly avoided earlier in the day, when a BLM ranger shot Ammon Bundy, a son of Cliven Bundy, with a stun gun during a heated confrontation a few miles from the ranch house.

A YouTube video shows protesters and law enforcement officers yelling and threatening each other as trucks involved in the roundup attempt to drive through.

The officers have stun guns drawn, and one is trying to push the crowd back with a barking dog on a leash.

Cheryl Teerlink, said Ammon Bundy was hit by a stun gun in his arm, chest and neck, but he shook off the first attempt to incapacitate him. “I pulled the tasers out of him,” Teerlink said.

(Las Vegas Journal)

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90 Responses to The Politics Of “The Nevada Bundy Ranch Standoff”…

  1. Pamela says:

    God sends His Heavenly Angels to watch over this family and every Patriot there guiding and protecting them and keeping them in His care.

  2. So many fuses to ignite the intent of the globalists and all tied together. Black on White attacks with hardly a mention from the MSM, children expelled from school for “poptart” or finger/paper “guns”, attacks on Christianity, home schooling, the abomination of obamacare, IRS “bullying”, NSA spying, ETC., ETC., ETC., haven’t been enough to yet light any. Cliven Bundy may be just what they have been waiting for. Unlike GZ he is TOTALLY white, independently minded, Constitutionally founded, representive of WE THE PEOPLE and thus the perfect target for the times. Waco and Ruby Ridge, were merely experiments into what the American public would tolerate, and unfortunately, we tolerated too much. BHO is perhaps (probably) the henchman chosen to finally realize their goal. His “fundamental transformation” of America is the ONLY truth he has ever spoken. Get ready folks, those mandatory “smart meters” (which can remotely shut off your electricity), MRAPS and full autos and nifty black uniforms, two BILLION plus rounds of hollowpoint ammo, EVERY Fed agency, including of late the NOAA (the freaking dumbass weathermen that hardly EVER get their predictions right, and NEVER apologize when they don’t) and DOE (yes, that agency that brings us a 25+/- percent dropout rate, some 40 percent of highschool graduates not reading above the 4th grade level and WORSE) having an included “military” branch! The Bundy’s of course should be supported and prayed for, but we are all targeted in the end.

    • nyetneetot says:

      You left out the economic fuse we’re trying to light overseas.

    • jordan2222 says:

      I am always amazed that the “foot soldiers” carry out their orders without hesitation and appear to do so with glee as one can plainly see in the film footage there.

      What kind of soldier shoots a boy in the back or murders a woman holding a baby standing unarmed in the door of her own home? It is scary that they can be brainwashed to commit atrocities that normal, rational humans like all of us here find so appalling.

      Time for me to take a deep breath…

  3. No Agenda says:

    Stop with all the drama and pay your grazing fees Bundy.

    • canadacan says:

      You have not been paying attention No Agenda.
      Bundys attempts to pay his fees were not accepted.
      Go back and read all the articles written at this website on
      this topic.
      Troll off.

    • UHOH…..is this another paid by the DNC, maybe yesterdays’, “joanfoster”?….. “noagenda”…take a deep breath, put down the koolade, remove all sharp objects from your immediate area….call one of MANY available 800 numbers listed in your phonebook dealing with sociopathic/psychopathic pleas for help. While waiting for connection (because you are not alone) breath into a brown paper bag or if there is a highway nearby, step out in front of the next 18 wheeler. Just do the right thing, which is NOT coming here and spewing idiocy. Like all DNC paid trolls, you know NOTHING about that of which you speak. Like canadacan said, troll off!!!!

    • Chip Bennett says:

      We’re sorry. Suffer Trolls Day was Tuesday. We’re not taking appointments today. I suggest you go find some of the sand on that grazing land, and pound it.

    • doodahdazee says:

      Phooey! The Militia should arm up with air powered potato guns converted to fire Cow Poop. A volley of Cow Patty v. The Federal Fools of Obama. I would love to see the Obama Minions covered in Cow Poop.

  4. Daniel says:

    Although what I truly want to see is the government walking away and issuing a formal apology for all of this before things get really bad, in the event they do, I would hope some of those able-bodied and skilled militia are outside of the perimeter of BLM and others rather than inside. There is no tactical advantage to going inside of that circle.

    The pedestrian agents out there “just following orders” seriously need to reconsider what they are participating in. They should consider what participating in unjust military operations does to our returning veterans and then magnify all of that psychological effect under the realization that they are taking arms against the people of the US within the US.

    The seriousness of this matter cannot be underestimated.

  5. onbe says:

    Reno was responsible for Waco not Ruby Ridge.

  6. Sibyl S. says:

    Ann Barnhardt is not sold on the Bundy side of the story:
    http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=231916

    • stella says:

      I agree with BFH’s take on it. Whether or not the Bundy’s are right or wrong on the grazing rights, the BLM has moved into territory that deserves our consideration and watchful dissent.

    • michellc says:

      I agree often with her, although sometimes not so much. I do believe though the part about his grazing fees, besides the truth of the matter about the grazing fees, is honestly not something I think Ann should be criticizing. I do remember her refusing to pay taxes. I will never condemn someone who does so and frankly understand why and believe it is a way to cut the government off at the knees if everyone did so. However, others in her line of work could say she’s taking an unfair advantage by not paying the tax that the government has ruled you must pay.
      As for the mormon cult statement, religion should not be playing a part in this conversation, other than the fact that his family is mormon, I have not heard him use his religion. I think she also has not done her proper research in the history here, not just the history of the land but what his family has endured by the federal government or what has become of the other ranchers in the area.

      With all that said, whether you don’t like mormons, you believe the BLM should be allowed to charge grazing fees vs state charging grazing fees and believe he should have just paid his fees, or you believe he has lied about the history of the land, you should still support his fight. He is not the first rancher, private land or grazing land who has come under attack from the government. I would like to see him be the last. I’m not naive enough to believe he will be, but I’m also realistic enough to know if we continue to sit back and point out the reasons why we don’t want to join in the fight, then when they’re done with the ranchers and the farmers, they’ll come after the rest of us in rural America, when they get done with us, then it will be urban America they come for, by that time there may be no need for them to come after what’s left because by then everyone will be dependent upon the government for their very survival. So when you stand with this man and other men like him, you’re not just fighting for them, you’re fighting ultimately for yourself. Without a republic you end up with a democracy and in a democracy it’s easy to fool enough people to give you tyranny.

      So I ask Ann, if we don’t hitch our cart to this rancher, and we haven’t hitched our carts to those who have came before him, when do we hitch our carts? After the last ranch and farm is swallowed up? After you wake up and realize there is no rural America? Do we wait until the horse and cart has already been taken?

      • stella says:

        Well said, michellc.

      • CrankyinAZ says:

        Hear…Hear!!! Personally… I don’t think much of Ann Barnhardt (Just my opinion) – I think she has too many chips on her shoulder re other people’s religions, to see clearly. And this government has gone after small farms, people’s little backyard farms, hobby farms, as well as many other ranchers …. heck they seem to go after anyone with a bit of an independent streak… So I ask you… who’ll be next?

      • Rob Crawford says:

        Well said. I’m sick of the “conservatives” who yield every battle to the left while saying they’re just looking for a better example. The left champions monsters in their fights — we can support mere mortals and stop looking for angels.

      • Fudge says:

        Bravo.

      • boater says:

        According to Cliven’s daughter, he stopped paying the grazing fees to BLM because BLM was using the fees not to manage the land but to buy out the ranchers. He offered the fees to the county instead but they refused to take the money. So it wasn’t about paying the fees, it was about what they were using the fees for. He refused to pay for his own demise.

    • LetJusticePrevail" says:

      According to Ann:

      This guy is claiming, as I understand it, some grandfathered right to the land through the Mormon cult (again, BIG red flag), but I don’t buy it. This situation stinks all around to my refined sniffer, and I would NOT die on this hill. Since so many have asked, that is my read.

      But that’s not accurate. Cliven Bundy has not claimed to have any kind of “ownership claim” on the land itself (as some have said) but only claims that his family are the ones who developed and maintained wells and water systems that make grazing possible in the first place. Bundy claims that without their efforts the land would not be suitable for use.

      Bundy protested when the BLM limited the number of catlle to 150 head, and questioned their authority to do so. He also tried to make payment to the State of Nevada (who he believes to be the proper authority in this issue) for the grazing fees, but the State refused his offer of payment. Bundy’s main complaints were that the BLM claimed to be charging the fees for the purpose of aiding ranchers to maintain the land, but were not using the money for that end. That is why he wanted to pay the state, and not the federal government.

      • doodahdazee says:

        Long time ago some folks decided they did not want to pay the “Tea Fee.” Did the Fed’s pay for the land? So what if the Cow’s ate some grass? A good person would gladly let his Cow’s have some. Phooey on this.

        • LetJusticePrevail" says:

          Judging from the comments seen at other sites, the support for Cliven Bundy is growing at a feverish rate. This isn’t about just one rancher, or even a local incident. Supporters are coming from many states. The governor of Nevada has made a statement that is critical of the actions taken by the BLM, but it lacks the sound of true conviction necessary in times like this. Also, other Sheriffs have come out with statements criticizing the Clark County Sheriff for failing to do his job to protect the citizens of his county from these federal intruders. The Sheriffs are planning to support Bundy and will hold a meeting and press conference in Vegas on Monday. They might be too late to stop the roundup, or to give Bundy any real help, but it might be enough to make the BLM think twice about doing something similar in the future. If nothing else, it shows that there are a growing number of people willing to stand up to the oppression from DC.

  7. Forrest says:

    SD, excellent analysis and contextualization of the issues, as always. I don’t know where you find the time, but I am extremely appreciative of your efforts and all those who contribute to the Treehouse in one way or another.

    The role of the mainstream media as a propaganda, misdirection, and even camouflage of the truth is increasingly evident. Wading through the fluff stories of celebrity break-ups, you will find very few articles critical of anything done by Democrats or progressives. I read from various news agencies from all backgrounds perspectives, and come to the Treehouse for reminders of what the mainstream media outlets are either intentionally and deviously hiding or incompetently failing to reveal.

    “For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known. Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetops” (Luke 12:2-3).

  8. TrickleUpPolitics says:

    Why does BLM even have snipers?

    • LetJusticePrevail" says:

      Beats me. Seems like the City of Louisville KY needs these snipers on their TARC buses more than BLM needs them in Nevada.

  9. eweturn says:

    BLM rangers and snipers have live ammo, but bean bags used by border patrol and in Afghanistan?

    • auscitizenmom says:

      That just keeps playing in my head. BLM rangers are ready to shoot American citizens and the border patrol have to run from Illegal Aliens.

      • doodahdazee says:

        This way they avoid Posse Comitatus. Obama Private Army. Snipers, Tanks, Helicopters, Drones. Just in case. It is disgusting and repugnant.

  10. crossthread42 says:

    From that JEM another Treeper dropped just the other Day, I’ve heard *Fracking* & everything in between, I believe the TRUTH is somewhere in here..—> Quote: Bob Abbey, Director of the Bureau of Land Management. “Today in Clark County, Nevada, we are adding solar energy to that public lands’ portfolio of benefits. LINK–> http://www.doi.gov/news/pressreleases/Salazar-Flips-the-Switch-on-First-Large-Scale-Solar-Energy-Project-on-Public-Lands-to-Provide-Power-to-the-Grid.cfm

  11. CleophusJ says:

    The Siege On Ruby Ridge occurred August 21 – August 31, 1992. Who was president then? Think about it before answering.

    • LetJusticePrevail" says:

      George Herbert Walker Bush was president on 8/31/92.

      • CleophusJ says:

        That’s right. Now how did the governor of Arkansas order federal agents to Idaho?

        • stella says:

          You made your point. I’m sure Sundance will change it when he’s around next.

          • CleophusJ says:

            My larger point is that it’s not Left-Wing or Right-Wing or Up-Wing or Down-Wing, it’s The Beast. The Federal Government is nothing but trouble. (although no one can seriously call Poppy Bush conservative/right-wing with a straight face. He’s Establishment and a part of The Beast long before becoming president.)

    • Murse says:

      Wrong: The Waco siege (also known as the Waco Massacre) was a siege of a compound belonging to the religious group Branch Davidians by American federal and Texas state law enforcement and military between February 28 and April 19, 1993. Bill Clinton was president from January 20, 1993 – January 20, 2001.

  12. CrankyinAZ says:

    It would be interesting to look at a land ownership record / map of the area in dispute… If it’s anything like the area I used to work in, in AZ the areas that the ranchers grazed in (with BLM being one of the primary land owners) the ownership looked like a checkerboard – BLM owning the black squares (well… because they’re evil)… the white squares might be privately owned, or even further divided between the State of AZ, or Forest service or some other Govt. agency… I’m wondering if some of those land ownerships nearby Mr. Bundy’s ranch haven’t been changing recently.

    There is definitely more going on here than meets the eye… They are spending an awful lot of money just to put one rancher in his place.

    • partyzantski says:

      That is a great point… what is the agenda that requires such measures? Why THIS land, why THIS rancher? Where is the transparency?

    • Rob Crawford says:

      Well, it IS government. It’s not their money, they get to play at being tough, they get to push a guy around, and if things go pear-shaped they’ll blame it on the “redneck tea partiers” and maybe one of the government thugs retires with his full pension and a nice position at a “charity”.

    • Fudge says:

      He is the LAST rancher in that county.

  13. I wish I had the time and opportunity to go stand with this family. Our government is about to find out how sick and tired of the oppression We the People are. I am praying for the protection of this family and the brave men and women, patriots all, who stand with them. I fear this is not going to end well.

  14. partyzantski says:

    It is of note that the protest is in a wide open space with no place to run to, no where to hide. It is a perfect place to employ drones.
    I have been wondering for a while when the opportunity would be manufactured to employ a drone strike in CONUS. This may be what is in th offing.
    The narrative and media will be controlled and America will only get to see what they want them to. Isolate (In this case, quite physically), ridicule & marginalize. Expect paid agents provocateur to make this situation unfold in an ugly way.
    This also may be an example of armed Federal oppression of Mormons. It has happened before, and the Obama campaign/admin are known for strident anti-Mormon tendencies.

  15. hawkeye13 says:

    Due process and court of law is the way to handle this, not by armed BS. The feds should have to follow the same path they want citizens to take… cattle rustling is hanging offense is some places.. the feds are stealing cattle, perhaps some of them should be hanged?

    • LetJusticePrevail" says:

      She cites that decisions were made to cover (or not cover) certain stories due to influence by “well orchestrated and well financed of interest groups, political interests and corporations”.

      “They didn’t ask ME what was left to report.”

      It’s nice to here this from an insider,even if it is widely suspected by even the average viewer.

  16. While we’re sitting around praying and hoping and discussing, some people are thinking about feet-on-the-ground tactics to achieve a peaceful, positive solution. This post from IOwnTheWorld should be broadcast far and wide. I apologize in advance for its length, but as someone who covered the Klamath Basin Crisis of 2001, I think it is very important:

    April 11th, 2014

    Dear Mr. Bundy,
    My name is Wayne Price, we own property in Catron County, NM and of course the folks have been fighting for over 20 years on this same underlying issue.
    Please note, I saw where Col Westgate contacted you and understand your decision to hold off on the Minutemen offer. We understand you need boots on the ground and we will do everything we can to bring people to the area.
    I have been in touch with Bucky Allred, Catron County Commissioner and he has been trying to call you to offer some ideas on how to stage your efforts.
    Here are some ideas to consider; File an injunction in Federal Court to stop the Helicopter use since they are violating FAA low-level flight rules. Make them obtain an area safety plan and issue an approved NOTM, this will stop the round-ups, temporary to give us time to build our forces.
    File an injunction in both State and Federal court to stop the round up, until they have an approved plan to show how they are protecting the endangered species during these activities.
    File an Injunction in State/Federal court to make them show that they are treating the animals in a manner that prevents harm. We know they are not.
    File a lawsuit and injunction to stop the action, until they have a plan approved by the county residents on their activities.
    Remember, those cattle trucks have to have gas, tires, drivers, and travel down a certain road. Civil dissidence is part of our civil rights, block the roads. They do not own or control the roads, nor do they own the airport, that’s county property, have them evicted, this way you force the county and state to act.
    Those helicopters has to be parked somewhere, gassed up, need pilots, all of these can be impacted on every level, without breaking any federal law.
    The BLM officers have to live in the community. Find out where they live, and go talk to their families.
    File a restraining order against the snipers who point weapons at you, that’s against the law. File charges in the county and have deputies arrest them. If the county doesn’t act, then they have violated your civil rights and you can sue them.
    And by doing all of this, you will have the biggest lawsuit in the history of the USA.
    We will come in about two weeks to relieve the other folks, this is a long struggle and we the people can wear out the opposition. Their resources are limited.
    We also need to set up a relief fund. God Bless you, keep up the fight, if you fail, we are all doomed, and no public land will be safe and secure for our use.
    This is Obama’s Agenda 21.

    Read more at http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=231916#06peH72WFUjYfagB.99

    • LetJusticePrevail" says:

      Alan Dershowitz offered to represent Cliven Bundy on a pro bono basis. Any news if they have been in contact with each other?

      • jordan2222 says:

        I am searching but did not hear about that.

        • LetJusticePrevail" says:

          Ooops… my bad. It wasn’t Cliven Bundy that Dershowitz volunteered to help. It was the family of Justina Pelletier. The memory is the first thing to go….

  17. Kristi Black says:

    I saw the video from Bundy Ranch and want to confirm a big Oil Corporation connection. In the video around 5:18 of the standoff at Bundy Ranch, My Uncle Mike appears wearing a BLM uniform and acting in the capacity of a Federal Agent. I was shocked to see him there because he has been working mostly overseas for Flour Daniel Corporation for 20+ years in heavy machinery. Confused, I called my aunt and confirmed that he is in fact state side right now in between jobs in the oil industry. She denied his involvement or knowing anything about the situation at Bundy Ranch. But, I don’t believe her for one second. I both saw and heard him speak clearly. What is significant about this is that my Uncle is a California resident and also a cowboy originally from Texas. My grandparents were very much like the Bundy family. My grandfather and all 5 uncles always had horses and small cattle property in Southern California. If, back in the day, Federal Agents would’ve tried to invade and steal my Grandfather’s land or property there would’ve been hell to pay by my entire family! I’m deeply ashamed and quite honestly disgusted by the decline of critical thinking and moral apathy that has taken over many Americans in the US. I know exactly why my uncle is hiding what he is in fact now doing. It’s wrong and makes him a huge hypocrite in light of his background and family values. Hope that big paycheck is worth selling your soul for!

    Kristi Black
    Palm Desert, California

  18. czarowniczy says:

    The Feds answer to this is to blame the victims – usually topping the excuse with a huge steaming pile of ‘it was for the children’ – except at Ruby Ridge where the sniper thought he heard ‘shoot for the children’. Let’s not forget the 1984 incident where the FBI cornered and killed Robert Matthews in a wooden house by ‘accidentally’ burning it down when they dropped incendiary devices on it,. Just thought I’d add it to the list above – some would say it was part of the beta testing for Waco.
    I’m sure that, especially with the rainbow POtuS we have in the WH, the Feds will find some way to steamroller the family (hopefully they will survive) while blaming any overacting on the family as the Feds display their Vogon ‘resistance is useless’ powers. Neat the way their profilers can zap whole families, if necessary, and so scare the hell out of the public that the public internalizes the fear of independent thought and action while ignoring the morality, if not the legality, of the actions.

    • doodahdazee says:

      Dollar to a Dime Harry Reid has $$$ in this. There is oil and gas there.

      • czarowniczy says:

        Yep, and lots of minerals like gold, silver, copper, etc. The BLM was a thorn in my posterior when I lived out west, they either had some East/West coast urbanite educated in some liberal college telling the farmers/ranchers who actually had dirt under their fingernails how stupid they were or acted as the thugs for other Federal agencies who felt their day wasn’t complete unless they screwed with/over someone who actually worked for a living. Whew, all of that in one breath – guess where the BLM is on my list.

    • LetJusticePrevail" says:

      I think the feds realize that the public is starting to see through the “It’s for the children” lie. Now they’ve switched to the “It’s for the turtles” lie. TreeHuggers eat that stuff up.

      • czarowniczy says:

        They’ve always had a convenient lie to fall back on – it’s just that in the day of the internet it’s harder for the Federal spinners to tailor the lie to a specific audience without letting on to others. In the end they usually fall back on Mao’s “Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun’ dictum. One reason they don’t want us to have gun barrels.

        • LetJusticePrevail" says:

          Oh, we can have all the gun barrels we want. Just no lower receivers or ammo.

  19. I found another good quote on The Sipsey Street Irregulars site that I think Treepers will like:

    “Sage advice from my Michigan boyhood for the citizen disarmament crowd. . . ‘Son, let me explain something to you. You don’t poke a wolverine with a sharp stick unless you want your balls ripped off.’ — Grandpa Vanderboegh’s Rule of Life #32″

  20. martyaa says:

    Dirty Harry is behind this and has a plan to sell the mineral rights to the mines to the miltary complex to develop weapon grade materials. Then he wants to give land and water rights to the Indians to sell water to nevada ranchers. You can be sure Dirty Harrys fingers Will be in the pot to get money off of ANYTHING the indians develop and even the mlitary complex. Its not about the ranchers cattle grazing the land OR the tortoise, its about the GOVERNMENT! This this is NEVADAS LAND, not THE GOVERNMENTS land and they want to STEAL IT!! They are trying to destroy this rancher and kill his cattle, This Government is OUT OF CONTROL AND NEEDS TO BE STOPPED!!!! THIS LAND DOES NOT BELONG TO THE GOVERNMENT; IT BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE!!! THE GOVERNMENT IS KILLING AND STARVING THIS MANS CATTLE USING CRUEL AND UNPROFESSIONAL BLACK WATER TATICS, THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO BE DOING1!! THEY ARE DRAGGING THE MOTHERS FROM THEIR CALVES AND STARVING THEM OF PRECIOUS MILK, AND THEY HAVE NO WATER!! ARE YOU MEN TOTALLY STUPID, DO YOU HAVE ANY MORALS OR DENCENCY AT ALL?? HOW WOULD YOU LIKE IF IF YOUR BABIES WERE TAKEN AWAY FROM THEIR MOTHERS, AND LEFT TO DIE??? YOU WOULDNT!! STOP BEING NAZI, GESTAPO THUGS FOR THIS ILLEGAL TYRANT IN OFFICE AND STAND WITH BUNDY AND TRUE AMERICANS!!1 USE YOUR BRAIN OR IS IT MADE OUT OF CHICKENWIRE???? SNIPERS BACK OFF AND THINK!! SURELY YOU ARENT THAT DESPERATE FOR MONEY THAT YOU WOULD DO SOMETHING AS CRUEL AND UNCONSCIONABLE AS THIS!! THINK ABOUT YOUR SOUL AND ETERNAL LIFE!! DO YOU THINK GOD WOULD LIKE WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO ANOTHER HUMAN BEING???? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This man has continued to pay taxes to the state of Nevada just not to the illegal landlord govt because they dont own the land!!!!

  21. someoneinnorthms says:

    As a lawyer, I’m trained to look at ALL the facts to be able to support my argument with them or explain away their significance if they can’t support my argument. I’ve had a hard time figuring out all of the facts about the underlying dispute to assess who’s right and who’s wrong in this situation. I was reserving judgment, but I had an epiphany just a moment ago (one that everybody else seems to have already gotten). In the confusing tangle of conflicting facts, one thing stands out: the CENTRAL government is the actor in this drama who wants to restrict the dissemination of information through “First Amendment areas,” etc. The private citizens seem to welcome the sunlight. My sharecropping grandmother is turning over in her grave that I didn’t see this earlier. If you are in the right, you want everybody to know what’s going on. Thus, we need to wonder what the CENTRAL government wants to keep us from knowing . . .

    This will be Obama’s Waco. I hope we citizens are strong enough, brave enough, and diligent enough to stand against it.

  22. theredhawg says:

    THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDANCE SAYS IT IS NOT ONLY OUR RIGHT BUT OUR RESPONCEABILITY TO THROW OFF A TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT. IF THE OBAMA GOVERNMENT IS NOT A TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT THEN THERE IS NO SUCH THING. IT IS NOW TIME TO WALK TALL AND CARRY A BIG STICK. IF WE LET THE GOVERNMENT GO ANY FURTHER WE WILL BE IN FEMA DEATH CAMPS.

  23. BigMamaTEA says:

    20 mins. ago, infowars was reporting a Harry Reid/China connection. Right now Hannity on radio is mentioning Harry Reid, and that land deal that put his partner in jail.

    Yesterday a H.R. spokesman said (paraphrasing here, something to the effect of Mr Reid hopes that the “trespass cattle” get rounded up safely and everything is well there. I thought that odd at the time.

  24. BigMamaTEA says:

    Another piece of a puzzle? ‘Kornze, the new BLM chief, is familiar with the area. He’s a natural resource manager who grew up in Elko, Nev., and served previously as a senior adviser to Senate Democratic Majority Leader Harry Reid.

    Reid aide Kristen Orthman said her boss “hopes the trespassing cattle are rounded up safely so the issue can be resolved.”’

    Follow the money! Lots of ‘coincidences’ locked up in those two sentences.

  25. P7rancher says:

    I thought you might like to read an article and comments from a ranching publication, particularly the comments:

    http://www.cattlenetwork.com/e-newsletters/drovers-daily/In-a-Range-War-between-a-rancher-and-government–no-one-wins-254559121.html

    Private property rights, including leasing rights, are being threatened on many fronts. Private property rights are a fundamental component of our Republic, but not important to a Socialist.

  26. hoosiergranny says:
    • LetJusticePrevail" says:

      I wonder if the Las Vegas book makers have opened up a betting line for this yet?

  27. boater says:

    Latest video from the ranch. Expecting over 1000 people tomorrow morning.

    http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/46034243

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