(By: Jack Cashill) The headline of the Orlando Sentinel on March 5 introduced a harsh note of reality into the darkly comic opera the major media have been spinning around the death of Trayvon Martin, “Lawyer: State’s main witness in George Zimmerman murder case lied.”
That witness, Witness No. 8, Trayvon’s alleged 16-year-old sweetheart “Dee Dee,” captivated the media when the story surfaced on March 20, 2012.
CNN covered it live. Anchor Kyra Phillips enthused about the “chilling new perspective” added to the case by the testimony of this heartsick girl who was on the phone with Trayvon when he was shot by George Zimmerman.
Phillips then introduced CNN legal analyst Sunny Hostin. Hostin had spoken with a Martin family attorney and shared with the CNN audience what he had learned.
“Trayvon Martin told his friend that someone was following him,” said Hostin. “He was nervous. He was concerned. She explained to him that he should run. He told her he was not going to run, but he was going to walk quickly in an effort to get away from the person that he thought was pursuing him.”
According to Hostin, Dee Dee heard Trayvon say to Zimmerman, “Why are you following me?” Right after this exchange, “She felt that someone had pushed or tackled Trayvon and, at that point, the phone call dropped.”
Hostin summarized that this “was the last conversation that Trayvon Martin had with anyone, and it also, in my view, dispels the notion of self-defense.”
A few minutes later, Phillips cut to a live press conference staged by Benjamin Crump, attorney for the Martin family. “She couldn’t even go to his wake she was so sick,” Crump said of Dee Dee. “Her mother had to take her to the hospital. She spent the night in the hospital. She is traumatized beyond anything you could imagine.”
“She connects the dots,” Crump continued. “She completely blows Zimmerman’s absurd defense claim out of the water. She says that Trayvon says he’s going to try to lose him. He’s running trying to lose him. He tells her, I think I lost him. So, he’s walking and then she says that he says very simply, oh, he’s right behind me. He’s right behind me again.”
Not only was Dee Dee traumatized, but according to Crump, she was also a “minor.” Given that combination, Crump asked the media to respect her privacy.
In fact, the media did not need to be asked. Dee Dee, as filtered through Crump, provided the confirmation they needed to establish the narrative they wanted: racist thug – not quite white, but close enough – kills innocent Skittles-bearing black boy.
This was Emmett Till all over again, proof for the black grievance industry and the reporters who enabled it that nothing indeed had changed since Till’s brutal murder in Mississippi nearly 60 years prior. Why question Dee Dee?
Of course, the blogosphere busted the “Dee Dee” concoction months ago – kudos especially to the blogging collective at www.theconservativetreehouse.com – but the major media, as is their custom with inconvenient facts, chose not to know any more than they had to.
Unlike, say, Benghazi or Fast and Furious, however, the Zimmerman case is playing out in the court of law, and not just in the court of public opinion. Given this reality, the media cannot control the narrative as they might otherwise do.
On Tuesday, Zimmerman’s attorneys had been expected to ask Dee Dee to produce her medical records proving that she was in the hospital right after the shooting. Before the hearing, however, the state conceded there are no medical records.
As the Sentinel reported, prosecutors “had to publicly acknowledge that their star witness had lied under oath and had to answer questions about what they intend to do about it.”
One reporter had the temerity to ask the state’s lead prosecutor, Bernie de la Rionda, “Will you charge the 19-year-old Miami woman with perjury?” He answered evasively, “You can all read the law and make your own decision.”
The sharp-eyed reader will notice that Dee Dee was casually referred to as a “19-year-old Miami woman.” As the Sentinel also acknowledged, Crump had told reporters last March, “that she was 16 years old. In fact, she was 18 at the time.” (continue reading)
it’s still unbelieveable that the Trayhuggers cannot even accept the fact that Crump said that DD was 16 and a minor child repeatedly. they are still in denial. cannot wait for the depo of DD when she spills the beans on CrumpaDump.
I don’t think so. I think they know perfectly well what the truth is. And do not care.
I think it’s time for the truth to be understood. The majority of continued Trayvon supporters ARE racist. Period. I could sit here and type a lengthy list of reasons to support that statement however I doubt it would be effective. The ones that frequently find themselves here that are “not” racist but still continue to support that GZ is guilty of the charge the state of Florida has levied against him, it is obvious that those continue to have an emotional rather than an intellectual based connection. I would be willing to bet that emotion is race based. The truth is that Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson pimped out to Crump and company and were successful in making this a race issue. The Trayvon supporters that embrace this are racist and will never accept the truth.
My usual prediction: No Dee Dee will show up come depo time.
It would seem that the entire Scheme Team — top to bottom and all-inclusive — has way too much to lose faced with the possibility of her being deposed. Why on earth would they want to risk their careers, law licenses, freedom, possessions and “reputations” on the shaky testimony of this “DeeDee” character? Will they coach her to take the Fifth, or just give her and her Mom a nice all-expenses-paid extended foreign vacation with plenty of spending money? (Handled by a third party “agent” of course.)
Bottom Line: Too many important players here have too much to lose if she actually testifies at a deposition this month, or in court in June. I think that they’d rather see GZ walk away a free man than gambling on such a losing proposition. Why take a chance?
“I think that they’d rather see GZ walk away a free man…”
Couldn’t agree more.
But not Corey.
Because she may have the most to lose?
Well in August she flew DD to Jacksonville for a special meeting. If she found out all this at that meeting? (West wants to know when the state found out.) Then applied and got Scott to re-appoint her in January. In addition to adding Shellie to the scope she has. I don’t think this indicates she will give it up voluntarily. She will have to be defeated in the court of law. She is all in til the bitter end.
Funny thing about Corey, with all the cases she won, THIS is the case for which she’ll be remembered; and it will be a loss.
The odd thing here is that 2 DD tickets mat required.
It was so coincidental when this came out and the circumstances so questionable (why would someone wait 3 weeks, then refuse to cooperate initially with the police?) that I was quite sure the gist of the testimony was a lie. We probably all figured that. Even without this admission, it was obvious that her words were totally made up, or in the least coached. I remember talking to a friend of mine that believed Zimmerman was a cold blooded killer, and I told him this girlfriend makes things super interesting because 3 weeks plus the media attention equals severe memory tampering at best. I also told my buddy to stay tuned because this was going to get interesting…. sadly, almost a year later, it HAS had more twists and turns than I could have imagined, but justice has yet to be done.
And it won’t be done until Crump (and preferably the Martins as well) are handcuffed and hauled away in the rear seat of a black and white.
Tawana Brawley – Crystal Mangum – DeeDee
I am wondering if this new evidence will make Crump subject to a depo now?
“kudos especially to the blogging collective at theconservativetreehouse.com”
WOOT!
Wolverines!!!!!
I am disappoint.
I thought this post would also include Crump’s perjury-by-affidavit. To wit:
P18:
P31:
P32:
Roll tape:
On hold??
A thirty minute interview and he has to say “Sorry hon, I have to take this call…”??
“…breaks for me…”? Really?
The only breaks were where the other folks were huddling and texting the budding actress, I’d wager. Oh, yeah! I said it. We forget, even following flash-mobbery and related violence these last few years, just how accustomed to the “silent” communication of texting the “urban” community has become. Texting is second nature. Not easily captured by microphones.
Excellent write up by Mr. Cashill. Naturally the Treehouse mention. Seeing how the Treehouse is pretty much it, for “community” investigation and reporting of this, up to and including the Ordained Journalist community, who forgot about “reporting” many years ago, and gave it up entirely just a few ago.
my need for breaks and to sometimes place Witness 8 on hold, audio problems and other issues
But taqi, surely those pauses while the actress reads her texted cues (or even her texted script highlights) would come under the heading of “other issues”? I mean, come on, an actress who can’t remember her lines has just GOTTA be an issue, right? Geeze, you guys are so unreasonable.
Alright Mr. Crump, I’m ready for my closeup.
He needs what? Bathroom and snack breaks during a 30 minute interview?
Patience Chip. We’re still digging into, researching, much more about the fabrication(s). Will post about it soon.
Fantastic work! I know you are tired and spinning many plates full but keep on pressing. Pay off for your hard work is very very near.
The Beasley Boyz must be inquiring at ABC. ABC will have to find a way out of this one. They have held back this recording and let Zimmerman be unjustly prosecuted. Crump is so clearly toast that it is hard to realize. This seems devastating. He has filed an affidavit with the judge that is prima facia false on its face. It seems too good to be true. Or a desperate maneuver to buy a little time. It seems like he has cooked his Goose. Unless I just do not understand it. The short ABC tape release is a wooden stake in the heart of the scheme it seems. The house of cards may be coming down.
Mr. Cashill published his story just after midnight last night, around the same time Crump – Witness 8 audio was discovered.
archstanton14, if you are making a connection between Cashill’s article and the discovery (mine at least) of that Crump-DeeDee ABC audio, it’s completely coincidental. I was actually searching for Matt Gutman articles regarding DeeDee, and one of my search hits was that audio. It was dated Feb 28, I assumed that everyone here had already listened to it but I posted it anyway. But now I see after doing more searches that the thing is quite well hidden, it’s not available from ABC’s usual video/audio library. It’s very intriguing! Maybe Cashill found it too, certainly possible since it’s been available for a week.
That was quite an amazing discovery. More significant overall, I think, than DeeDee’s hospital lies. I wonder what game ABC is playing.
My guess at what ABC is doing: As I’ve said for awhile, I think they worked out something behind the scenes with MOM and West, in which they’d hand over everything they need. But MOM/West agreed to allow ABC to publicly release the tape themselves, rather than doing it on the GZ website or making some big announcement or whatever. That would allow ABC to put on appearances like they were just being open and honest journalists, correcting former “unfortunate errors” they might have made, blah, blah, blah. Now why they have so far only released PART of the tape, I can’t guess.
There is one fact that we do know and that is that the recording that Tara found was buried. It MIGHT be possible that there are others out there that are also buried. Why? Who knows? Why did they bury this one? What’s their game?
This will all be over after the Martin/Fulton/DD2 depositions anyway.
Without knowing the source of the disclosure, it’s all speculation.
But if ABC itself was the source, and if the disclosure was intentionally surreptitious, and if ABC has indeed worked something out with the defense, then this move has all the makings of the classic “shot across the bow”: Hey, Crump; this is just a taste of what’s going to come out eventually; we could have hit you broadside here, but we didn’t. Your move.
A subpoena to ABC for the whole Dee Dee/Crump interview! It’s about time!!!!!!
Go Tara!!!
+1
Someone help me out here, refresh my memory. O’Mara and West filed the motion to acquire the recording from ABC back on Jan 18. And then there was a hearing some time after that, not sure the date. What was the outcome of the motion? Was this something that Nelson decided?
Sorry, I know some of you know this already, but for the benefit of others … ABC also received the subpoena request, and Nelson was going to hear arguments on Feb 5.
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-01-18/news/os-george-zimmerman-defense-records-20130118_1_zimmerman-attorneys-trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman
I still can’t find the result. :-/
WTH? I went back to the Treehouse Feb 5 hearing thread, and it was reported there that the request for the ABC subpoena wasn’t even addressed. Is that correct?
Tara, I dont think it was ever addressed. I from everything I have read and remember anyways. Thats why YOUR FIND WAS SUCH A HUGE HUGE DEAL!!!!! You GO Girl!
They were also supposed to talk about it at this Tuesday’s hearing, but they didn’t. I think that’s because it’s now moot… I bet they already have everything (or are in the process of getting it) from ABC.
We don’t know. It hasn’t come up again. This has caused some to speculate that ABC/Gutman has given the tapes to O’Mara already but I doubt that. Matt is an ass and has a particular story to sell, he ain’t going to just give it to O’Mara and the way they buried that clip you found is suspicious. Why not write an article about it and include the clip? Makes no sense. Why not release the entire thing? Matt could do that and he might still. Even so that is just from the Crump interview. Matt had subsequent interviews with her alone that he also recorded.
I don’t know DMan… can you really afford THREE cakes? I’ve got one coming for the “no trial” bet (yeah, I’m still holding out on that one!
). Another one for the Dee Dee not showing up for a depo. So you wanna go for another?… for whether MOM/West and ABC have (I suspect weeks ago) worked something out behind the scenes? 
Sure, I’ll take that bet. I know Matt, well not personally, he’s ideologically entrenched and dedicated. He will not betray ‘THE CAUSE”! lol. NO TAPES FOR YOU!
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/03/07/03-07-george-zimmerman-case-open-discussion-thread/#comment-340085
Ok, someone mentioned this earlier in the other thread, and I was confused. Couldn’t figure out why MOM/West would now be fliling a motion to get something they seem to already have. But now I see that this is the stuff they filed awhile back (January) So yeah, makes sense to me, because I’ve been saying for a long time now…. IMO, the guys already have the ABC stuff.
@3:44 — Dee Dee appears to be finished and stops speaking. Crickets. Then Crump says: “Okay, I’m gonna hold for a second, I just wanna ask the part about the alt– when you say you heard the other person, yea, you know like when you told Mr. Tracy and Mr. Brennan……
So it appears he was going to say “I just wanna ask the part about the altercation….” which is perhaps what they had been calling it during the rehearsal.
Also when Crump says “like when you told Mr. Tracy and Mr. Brennan” — who is Mr. Brennan and when did he and Tracy talk with Dee Dee?
“Mr. Tracy and Mr. Brennan”
Listen again. It is – Mr. Tracy and Ms. Sybrina -
Contrary to their statements to the cops that they did not have substantive conversations with W8.
Ahhh thank you! I listened to that part like 5 times and I swear I heard “Mr. Brennan”.
Mr. Tracy and Ms. Sybrina –
“I am disappoint”
Ha! I guess I’m not the only one who’s starting to talk like Dee Dee. Anytime I hear the word “scared” or “tired”, I automatically leave off the “d” and kinda laugh to myself. I do believe this case is driving all of us a bit insane.
No, you’re not the only one. You should have seen the look on my better half’s face when I responded to a question he asked, “Oh, I’m not sick just a little tire”. We both cracked up
.
It’s actually an old internet meme.
Just checked it out. Ok, and how exactly did I miss that?
To use one of Obama’s dodges, “Dee Dee was a ‘composite’ girlfriend of Trayvon’s”.
Pray for disbarrings and incarcerations for quite a few on Team Trayvon.
Not only the lawyers but some in the MSM, too.
Why does Matt Gutman even still have a job at this point? (Rhetorical question.)
Why do Crump and Bernie and Tracy and Sybrina still walk free?
“Truth and justice” used to be the “American Way.” For a time. Now it’s the opposite.
True that. Only justice we see now comes with $$$$$$$$$$ tags.
Matt Gutman is a member of the lucky sperm club. His granddaddy BigBucks donated a huge chunk of cash to “Philadelphia University” as has been mentioned at CTH numerous times. That kind of cash insulates you from the type of scrutiny applied to most non-connected, non-wealthy people.
http://wordpress.philau.edu/today/2012/11/09/philadelphia-university-celebrates-the-20th-anniversary-of-gutman-library/
Is Gutman’s cash in a bank in Philadelphia? How convenient, The Beasley Firm is also in Philadelphia.
Philadelphia:
What did Crump’s granddaddy do?
Look at some of the things our last two presidents (and many of their cronies) have done…. and yet NONE of them are in prison, or ever likely to be. So compared to them, what we see going on in this case in Kindergarten games. In other words, sad as it is to say, it’s really not too surprising that “truth and justice” was the first victim in this case. Yep…
Read my post at the end of the USS Benjamin Thread
Once again, because yeah, they okayed it.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=testimoney
lol
reminds me of the slip from an illegal alien student who demanded to know when they were going to be allowed to apply for “greed cards”. Oops!
We’ve gotta get the news out on this…and get the “thumbs up” count to soar!
I shall do my part…..
I tried to post a second one with the misspellings corrected, and a note to that effect. but they haven’t (yet) approved it.
My brain always saw it as Trey, not Tray. I’ve watched Don’t be a Menace… too many times, I suppose… or listened, years ago, to too much Phish.
And dangit. Even the protagonist of this masterpiece spells it “tray”. (It’s short for Ashtray, in the film.)
LOL WAY TO GO!!! Well the TrAyon is Copyrited anyway lol Dont wanna make any more money for the Trashcan Mom
Proud of YOU !!!! LMBO Cory B. King wants to be famous lol
I did my part, too! Thumbs up and congrats. to Taqiy!
Congratulations Taqiyyologist
I love it.
I just noticed the “add video” button at UrbanDictionary.
Added Chip’s from earlier in the thread, explaining as a “reason this video is related to this word” in that field: “This is Witness 8 as I mentioned in my “example” section, being coached and interviewed at the same time.”
Congrats again! But you mean to tell me the site admins won’t let you edit the “Treyvon” words? Or edit it themselves or whatever?
Call your favorite lazy brain dead reporter and laugh at them at their ignorance and willful obediance to the real haters
Call AG Pam Bondi, the sell out queen, and demand an investigation and charges. Then make the next call to the State Bar Association. I have a pending complaint file #. Do you?
I appreciate the encouragement, but I dont have one of those yet. Can I get one in person? I just found out where the State Bar Association building is and I have driven past it at least a thousand times (like crump’s office, though I never went in there becuase I wouldnt feel safe) and am so tempted to go in there and give them a little bit of my thought processes.
Per Woohoowee request. Last thread so long now, from ON BEING A BLACK LAWYER
Translation:
“If Americans don’t give us a bunch of money for being black, that’s racist.”
If America fails the BGI, America has won.
If America fails Trayvon, America has failed.
America DID fail Trayvon by allowing the culture that produced him to not only exist but flourish.
America needs to rectify that failure.
Suspicion is also what gives ordinary citizens the right to call the police and even “get out of the car and watch from a distance” someone that is otherwise minding their own business.
Nothing gives someone the right to double back and try to kill you for watching them and calling the police. Nothing. That’s insanity.
“He shouldn’t have got out of the truck!” Why, fools? Because he wasn’t a police officer he was fair game for attack, for watching and calling the police on a young black man?
What demons have possessed you who think this way?
+1,000
ditto
“What demons have possessed you who think this way?”
Wow +++++
Wow, indeed.
“What demons have possessed you who think this way?”
Its a street code. You can’t call the police on them, or complain about them. Snitches end up in ditches. Either you’re with them or you’re the pohlees!
Sign at the apartment complex says clearly:
“NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH
PROGRAM IN FORCE
(picture of big eye over houses)
We report all suspicious persons and activities to the Sanford Police Department
407-688-5199 or 911″
Cupcake, this beez sounding umm not good
Sure she did. So did poppa Tracy.
When did you stray from that love, Sybrina? And you, Tracy?
At what age in Trey’s life did you both decide to sacrifice him for your political dreams?
Tracy you were Crippin All the Time, right? Teaching lil’ Tray all the right things that would get him killed. He was your sacrifice, wasn’t he? For the Cause.
Thing is, Tracy, God provided Abraham a Replacement, and stayed his hand.
Amazing these slaves to the State, thinking that they are free.
“None but ourselves can free our minds.” — Bob Marley.
“At what age in Trey’s life did you both decide to sacrifice him for your political dreams?”
Barf Bag Alert
Publicly on March 29, 2012
Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin: Trayvon was sacrificed to expose injustice
http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2012/03/29/sybrina-fulton-and-tracy-martin-trayvon-was-sacrificed-to-expose-injustice/
Translation:
“This advocatin’ with trash cans brings in $$$$$. Cha – Ching! Pass another trash can, quick!”
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/08/07/the-traymom-financial-motives-begin-to-visibly-surface-people-now-surprised-to-identify-true-motivations-so-well-expose-again/
I started out as a lover of my son.
That would be the teenage son who “would still sleep in my bed”, right? And who “used to call me Cupcake”?
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2012/10/trayvon-martins-mom-i-just-didnt-get-enough-kisses-from-him.html
I dunno what really went on in that family, but her words make me feel downright queasy.
I really hope, that it was only a poorly phrased sentence, but I share you queasiness.
Reminds me of that full mouth French kiss between the two women, Ciely and Shug, in The Color Purple? Maybe it was like that, deep and intimate, but not really?
Ick!
Me either LMF, strange on any level IMHO.
And you know darn good and well, if this were GZ or his family talking like this, it would get all kind of tacky remarks.
If Obama had a personal lawyer… he would look like Crump.
Heck, hes already kinda like a private attorney general. Holder better watch his back, I think Crump may be eyeing his job.
Actually, I’m pretty certain it would be a fat white guy.
lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Translation:
“I dun got muself in a bind. Hep me!”
There is some funny crap at that link
Good GOD.
Hey, Benny-muffin:
Freud is rolling over in his grave, and laughing hysterically right now.
Don’t ever play poker. And get with Corey King. On that whole image thing.
We know, you leeches. And you make it so plain to see. Twitter on, tweeters!
It’s not JUST about the cars and bling. I mean, yeah, that’s a HUGE part of it, but you know, you gotta care, too. For the downtrodden.
But yeah, my G6 and my Mas and my vintage Jag are the shizz too, yo.
What?
http://money.cnn.com/2010/10/08/news/companies/Gulfstream_fly_G6.fortune/index.htm
Very popular song lately. The same folks who say being rich is evil.
He’s talking about those Trash Cans.
it has to be about something greater than yourselves
What, a law career should be about something greater than being a race-baiting, ambulance-chasing, false-witness-soliciting, perjury-committing, innocent-victim-railroading, lying sack of slime? Who knew?
Still, the good news is that it’s easy-peasy to find something “greater” than that. Heck, I’ve seen cockroaches that displayed a “greater” and finer moral character than has been shown in Crump’s work on this case.
+1
Wonder what Testi-Money B. King gonna do if duh records dont match up?
She just doesn’t understand the PROOF of a phone CALL doesn’t equal to proof of a phone CALLER.
Testi-Money Corey B King is a male lol google him. Here is what he says on his twitter pg, maybe this is his acting gig, pretending to be a Traybot!
Oh and that aint Doxing, its posted on his public Twitter account and on the web
I am 36 year old actor, singer, and writer looking to network http://network.www.facebook.com/corey.bushea
Greensboro, North Carolina · http://www.800casting.com/64232
The link to face book didn’t work unless I removed the word “network”. This is what I got:
http://www.facebook.com/corey.bushea
HE’S A DRAG QUEEN!
For real! I had to look at his album picture to be sure.
Oh, no, my screen needs a major cleaning now!
OH MY LAWD!!! RuPaul on a BENDER!! LOLOL;)
OMG!!! No wonder he wants to be in the Female Dog group !!! too funny
YIKES!! I too need a MAJOR screen washin LOLOL
I said basically that (and a few other things) at TalkLeft last night. I was a little worried, because Jerralyn is super cautious about letting anyone say anything that can even potentially be considered “libelous”. But she let my comment go through, and even replied to it in a friendly way. I usually get along with her over there, even though I often stay BARELY on the right side of the rules.
Testi-Money is stomping his widdle feet!
Translation:
“Only people that agree with me have a right to free speech. Shut him up, now!”
Good idea. Then Beasley can depose Crump & Jackson.
Dear Corey B. King,
WAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
That’s why they put “Job well done” on his grave marker.
That was supposed to be a reply to taqiy… ” He was your sacrifice, wasn’t he? For the Cause.”
Is there an emoticon for “sardonic, looking down, head shaking kinda laughter”?
Knew the reason would come out. Always wondered.
That actually makes me kinda sad…
Ok, tomm is Friday, wonder if anything will be released tomm? Seems most stuff happens on late Friday evening. Except for this week
I think next Friday is the Depo Day isnt it?
Motion file for all ABC tapes.
+1
Benjamin Crump: I have to go to the hospital. Natalie will be taking over.
Eagerly awaiting SD’s next revelation.
Amazing work, treepers. Good night.
Tara has also been hard at work. So watch her posts, too.
+ ELEVENTY as SD says!!
My sister shared this quote with me today, when I told her about DD.
“Things come apart so easily when they have been held together with lies.”
― Dorothy Allison, Bastard Out of Carolina
Hi Maggie – I think about DeeDee in this way. Humpty Dumpty sat on the wall – Humpty Dumpty had a great fall. All of Corey’s horses and men – couldn’t put Humpty Dumpty back together again. (For give the literary license.)
Did you mean Humpty CRUMPTY.
That is even better,
Thanks for all of you treepers dedicated to the truth. I don’t get over here to read often, but whenever I want to find the facts about the Trayvon case, this is my first stop.
You guys rock!
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