Wednesday Open Thread – December 5th

Tomb of the Unknown ChristmasOur Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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72 Responses to Wednesday Open Thread – December 5th

  1. stellap says:

    Good morning everyone! Off to the shower for me.

    • ctdar says:

      Perfect, thx Wee, just a few of Nugent’s bullet points:
      -No tax-raising deal should be signed without including a balanced-budget amendment.
      -Let’s also stop the insanity by suspending the right to vote of any American who is on welfare. Once they get off welfare and are self-sustaining, they get their right to vote restored. No American on welfare should have the right to vote for tax increases on those Americans who are working and paying taxes to support them. That’s insane.
      -In addition to suspending a welfare recipient’s right to vote, we also need to get our voting system straightened out and eliminate voter fraud. We need to ensure that only Americans vote by requiring polling places to validate the identification of each voter.

      • WeeWeed says:

        Exactly. It’s MY particular b!tch about raising the rates on “the rich.” It’s like renters voting to raise property taxes on MY house. Who died and made THEM G-d??? :evil:

        • cajunkelly says:

          I have b*tched about this same thing for YEARS. Non property owners should NOT have the right to vote property tax increases for property owners.
          I call it….
          Representation Without Taxation

    • texan59 says:

      WTH is going on with this?

    • cajunkelly says:

      Good googly gosh…
      “Armey, who served as FreedomWorks’ co-chairman since 2003, cut ties with the group in a tersely-worded email dated Nov. 30. But The Associated Press reported Tuesday morning that the terms of his resignation were set in September under a confidential contract that would compensate him with $8 million in consulting fees, paid in annual $400,000 installments.”

  2. Sentenza says:

    Got to post this Harry Reid Press release on the filibuster
    http://epw.senate.gov/pressitem.cfm?party=rep&id=237812

    Here’s some of the gems:

    And it is very much in keeping with the spirit of the government established by the Framers of our Constitution: Limited Government…Separation of Powers…Checks and Balances.

    Mr. President, the filibuster is a critical tool in keeping the majority in check. This central fact has been acknowledged and even praised by Senators from both parties.

    If Republicans rollback our rights in this Chamber, there will be no check on their power. The radical, right wing will be free to pursue any agenda they want. And not just on judges. Their power will be unchecked on Supreme Court nominees…the President’s nominees in general…and legislation like Social Security privatization.

    And that is why the White House has been aggressively lobbying Senate Republicans to change Senate rules in a way that would hand dangerous new powers to the President over two separate branches – the Congress and the Judiciary.

    To Senate Republicans attempt to destroy the last check in Washington on Republican power…

    And finally, the best part:

    Some in this Chamber want to throw out 217 years of Senate history in the quest for absolute power.

    They want to do away with Mr. Smith coming to Washington.

    They want to do away with the filibuster.

    They think they are wiser than our Founding Fathers.

    So, Mr. Senator, how do you respond to your criticisms of removing the filibuster?

  3. Sentenza says:

    Here’s the message that I sent to my senator:

    Madame Senator:

    I am writing about the Honorable Mr. Harry Reid’s attempt to repeal the filibuster in the Senate, and I wish to convey my wishes as one of your constituents that you oppose such attempts to remove a critical tool for keeping the majority in check. If Mr. Reid succeeds, it will hand dangerous new powers to the president over two separate branches, the Senate, and the judiciary.

    Some people in the Senate want to throw out centuries of tradition in their quest for absolute power. They think they are wiser than our founding fathers. They want to do away with the filibuster. This is not true. Why does Mr. Reid want to remove something that gives voice to the minority so that wiser and cooler heads may prevail?

    These, largely, are not my words, but are the words of Mr. Reid, himself, that he published in a press release. I offer the entirety of Mr. Reid’s press release for your consideration:
    http://epw.senate.gov/pressitem.cfm?party=rep&id=237812

    Feel free to send it to any of your senators.

    • czarowniczy says:

      Sounds like you have a Democratic senator. My Republican ones are right on top of this one, more (I believe) as a matter of self-interest. I’ve been getting wonderfully crafted pieces of boiler plate reply to emails I’ve submitted regarding major issues, they flow smoothly off the screen and basically say nothing. Me wonders if the answer isn’t to form that 3rd party from truly conservative roots as it appears the Democrats and Republicans have joined forces on one main topic, self -preservation. I don’t see roiling fist-t-head battles between the two parties on the House or Senate floor over saving the Country, more like C-Span showing an impassioned speech on the budget being delivered by someone needing a photo-op to an empty House. Both parties went bi-partisan in crafting legislation that would protect their abilities to profit from insider-trading deals that the Great Unwashed can’t. Both parties have gone bi-partisan on protecting their cushy House and Senate retirements, retirement plans that even other Federal workers cannot get. We shouldn’t be asking ourselves if we are better of than we were four years ago, we should be asking Congress if they are richer today than they were four years ago.

  4. arkansasmimi says:

    Anyone here from Wisconsin? LOL Univ of AR has a new football coach and he from Wisconsin. Just wondering, and if so any thoughts? I am excited, personally :) TIA

  5. WeeWeed says:

    Save this one, kids – twit addresses for our senate maroons. All of ‘em. :evil:

    http://grumpyelder.com/?p=32846

  6. howie says:

    Garfield was funny today. For Pudd lovers. “Christmas rule #1, never let the cat help decorate the tree.”

  7. texan59 says:

    I shall take this with a grain of salt since it’s from RT, but…………….

    http://rt.com/usa/news/surveillance-spying-e-mail-citizens-178/

  8. texan59 says:

    More severe mental retardation from an EPA employee. WTF!!!!!!!!!

    http://freebeacon.com/epa-employee-demoted-for-prison-telephone-scheme/

  9. texan59 says:

    Looks like things are as testy with the Ulsterman as with the rest of us.

    http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/12/05/insider-vs-insider-stolen-stolen-stolen/

    • WeeWeed says:

      Well. It seems to me that if the “problem” was white males not getting out to vote, the GOP might make an effort to talk to “whitey” rather than blacks and latinos. Call me crazy, but p.c. I ain’t. Communist Assholes.
      FEMA, PIPE BOMB, EPA asswipes.

      • texan59 says:

        Somebody needs to test the flouride levels in the DC water. Everyone’s gettin’ plumdum stoopid.

      • texan59 says:

        Here is a little history lesson on how Political Correctness made its way into our world. I’ze gonna post over on the FB and see if I can pizz off some libtards. :evil:

          • texan59 says:

            This seems to be a somewhat “sanitized” version from wiki. Gee, I wonder why? I’ma go with the first one I posted. :evil:

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness

          • WeeWeed says:

            “..Political Correctness is cultural Marxism. It is Marxism translated from economic into cultural terms. It is an effort that goes back not to the 1960s and the hippies and the peace movement, but back to World War I.”
            Exactly!!
            And the money quote -
            “..In conclusion, America today is in the throes of the greatest and direst transformation in its history. We are becoming an ideological state, a country with an official state ideology enforced by the power of the state. In “hate crimes” we now have people serving jail sentences for political thoughts. And the Congress is now moving to expand that category ever further. Affirmative action is part of it. The terror against anyone who dissents from Political Correctness on campus is part of it. It’s exactly what we have seen happen in Russia, in Germany, in Italy, in China, and now it’s coming here. And we don’t recognize it because we call it Political Correctness and laugh it off. My message today is that it’s not funny, it’s here, it’s growing and it will eventually destroy, as it seeks to destroy, everything that we have ever defined as our freedom and our culture.”

    • ctdar says:

      I just pulled this off one of the Ulst comments:
      Source: SW Louisiana Tea Party
      “This election does not get decided until Mid-December when the Electoral College cast their votes.
      According to Article II of the U.S. Constitution AND the 12th Amendment – if 1/3rd of the States do not cast their votes in the Electoral College — then the matter falls onto the House of Representatives to choose the President.
      In other words — if we pressure Congressmen, State Party Officials, and groups such as Tea Party Patriots, Heritage Foundation, etc., to call on RED States to NOT have their Electors cast their vote — then the House of Reps CAN choose the next President!!!!!”
      Anybody know if this is true??
      Sounds too good

      • texan59 says:

        Kinda like when you think that Ginsu knife really will cut a tin can. Or the x-ray glasses from Bazooka Joe are really gonna work. If this was possible, it would’ve been done in the Y2K election that Dubya stole. :roll:

  10. tnwahm says:

    Florida Peeps:
    This is what your Republican Senate President emailed to KrisAnn Hall who is a Tea Party activist who is lobbying for Florida to not setup the State Health Exchange. First he mocked the Founding Fathers and then . . .

    “After sending Senator Don Gaetz my letter explaining the positions of James Madison, Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton on State Sovereignty, Mr. Gaetz says that citizens who agree with the writer of the Declaration of Independence should be summarily shot and hanged. Does that means Don Gaetz is in favor of shooting the many Catholic Bishops and other religious leaders who have said that they will not comply with this mandate? Notice the double-speak in his email below. He affirms his support for the Constitution and then demonstrates his utter ignorance of its meaning and purpose.”

    http://www.krisannehall.com/index.php/blog/151-florida-senate-president-calls-for-hangings

    • WeeWeed says:

      So, while I’m being un-P.C., WHAT the hell is wrong with Florida and HAS been for at least 40 years that I personally am aware of??? Fess up, Florida – we already know y’all are not capable of voting. So????

  11. texan59 says:

    Costas on O’Reilly. Not making a strong case as I can tell.

    • WeeWeed says:

      Saw that – popped in on the computer – sarin. How many bets….. never mind. I’m already late for FEMA camp…..

      • texan59 says:

        Save me a seat – if you get there before me.

        FEMA FEMA FEMA PIPEBOMB INTERSTATE

        • WeeWeed says:

          Hey, didja know our beer coolers ya’s can get ‘em on wheels, now? Easier to carry whilst we trek on foot to Arizona where our camp is. (Like we don’t know it, you FEMA PIPEBOMB ASSHOLES that fully support this genocide of the Syrian people to hide whatever the hell YOU are doing.)

  12. stellap says:

    On December 5th, union protestors were bused to the capitol building in Lansing, MI, to protest Workplace Freedom (Right-to-Work) legislation. Before leaving for the night, they began shouting, “We’ll be back. We’ll be back. We’ll be back.” They are planning on meeting at a local UAW post on December 6th and bussing over every hour starting at 8 until 11.

  13. texan59 says:

    An asshat atheist at West Point. Apparently he hasn’t been in a real foxhole yet. :evil:

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/04/15676692-west-point-cadet-quits-cites-criminal-behavior-of-officers?lite

    • WeeWeed says:

      Another deadbeat – Cap’n Pee-Pee will appreciate this, since he hasn’t met a foxhole either – get most of your “edumacation” out of the way, bitch, throw a hissy, and get out of the bill. What.A.Disgrace.

      • texan59 says:

        Maybe he can go on tour with the ho. I hope they send him the bill. There’ve been people who left for a lot of reasons and most of ‘em have to pay it back. @$50k/yr. or more.

        • WeeWeed says:

          I love that – I listen to Ramsey in the afternoon and most of these stupid asses have loans like $200,000+ for a philosophy or sociology or whatever masseusses do degree, for God’s sake. Did I mention that they’re on the dole???? WHO in gawd’s name would take out a $200,000 loan for a shite degree other than a liberal????

          • texan59 says:

            The only one’s who are dumber are those who’s degree ends in “Studies” Any parent who sends their kid to an Ivy League school to work for a non-profit or become a teacher should also be forced to wear the sammich board outside the bank telling everyone that “I’m a Dum-Bass”. If anyone’s kid is a teacher please don’t yell at me. Only if they go to any private college. Anyone who spends $200K to become a teacher should never be allowed in a school again. IMHO. :evil:

  14. ctdar says:

    Interesting, if Court dismisses the Obama “fast one” of the 3 labor appointments than that action would invalidate everything they did all year :)

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/05/Federal-Appeals-Court-Likely-to-Invalidate-Obama-s-Recess-Appointments

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