Sunday Open Thread – December 2nd

Tomb of the Unknown ChristmasOur Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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104 Responses to Sunday Open Thread – December 2nd

  1. canadacan says:

    I have been to Arlington many many times this is an awesome photo

  2. texan59 says:

    Our Sunday visit with Clarice. Mornin’ all. I guess this is what happens when you go to bed at 10:00 on a Saturday night – sober. :D

  3. texan59 says:

    Wal-Mart to stop offering health insurance to new hires…… And the Walton’s are big obama donors. Who’d a thunk it? :evil:

  4. texan59 says:

    I know everyone will be hungry shortly so I’ll be outside for a few minutes gettin’ everything ready.


  5. texan59 says:

    “The Library” They will only need room for two books and maybe a small “garden”. :roll:

  6. texan59 says:

    I saw a similar article on FB yesterday about this. There are those much smarter than I (hard to believe, I know) that are looking at the “long game” when it comes to obamacare. It could suffer the “death of a thousand cuts” over time. Since I don’t even play a lawyer on TV, I’m not privy to all the legal eagle angles. Roberts could’ve been crazy like a fox. WE.SHALL.SEE.

  7. ctdar says:

    Found this chasing a rabbit earlier….should be printed and passed out at the next congressional meeting.

    • WeeWeed says:

      I saw that. And all I hear is **crickets**. :evil:

    • Auntie Lib says:

      Evidently, due to a Consent Decree that was signed by the RNC several years ago, there isn’t much the GOP can due to challenge these anomalies. So where is Dick Army and the TEA Party? They can file suits and start cleaning up this mess. Where are they?

      • ctdar says:

        Find the loophole and screw ‘em!!! Like maybe consent has to be based on the assumption of good faith from all parties?

        • Auntie Lib says:

          I think that’s a waste of time. What is needed is an entity other than the Republican party to challenge the validity of the votes in those precincts/counties. It would be a perfect role for the TEA Party groups to take the lead on – and if they win, they’d have huge leverage over the GOP. Just sayin’.

    • texan59 says:

      Let’s see, I get a dividend from my stock. That dividend is what’s left over after that company paid taxes at a top rate of 35%. Now, if I’m a high-earner (I wish), they’re gonna tax THAT at an additional 39.6%. What that actually means is that the company made $1,000.00. That is taxed at 35%. Now I have $650.00 left. If the company gave all that out as a dividend they (gov’t.)are gonna take an additional 40%. I get $393.00 and the gov’t. gets $607.00 That sure sounds fair to me. /sarc

      $1000 – $350 = $650 – $257 = $393 What the hell is FAIR about that???? :evil: :evil:

    • texan59 says:

      “When President Barack Obama attends his second inauguration in January, he’ll also be taking in the mystical powers of a spoon-bending, card-manipulating “mentalist” named Alain Nu. The performer announced Monday evening on Facebook that he “was just invited to perform … [at] President Obama’s Inauguration January 21st!”

      Great! :roll:

    • texan59 says:

      There’s a whole bunch of folks who still don’t understand this.

      • WeeWeed says:

        BFH’s vision of our border.


        • Sharon says:

          Oh, dear. We had a county line in MN where that is almost (about 75%) of what we experienced. ….the foreground of this picture is the future of every road in the country as the infrastructure funds dry up. As funds dry up, you know that whoever’s at the top of each budgetary process from the state and fed level will not be prioritizing infrastructure…those pet projects that feed their personal cash flow gotta be kept on line, y’know.

  8. stellap says:

    I just cursed at Tim Geithner on Fox News Sunday. He is a big fat liar and a condescending worm.

  9. texan59 says:

    I don’t care who marries who. I don’t care, nor do I want to know what you do in your bedroom. But, is there any limit?

    • Sharon says:

      …is there any limit? No. And there hasn’t been for some time. It’s just taken awhile for them all to get there. The EnviroWhackos and PETA have plans for animals receiving legal designation as having human rights (already happening in CO, as I understand) so it’s only a matter of time until BO can marry BO. Of course, these are the same evil fools who won’t give human rights to little starter people unfortunate enough to still be in their mother’s womb.

      A dear young friend of ours in MN is due any day now–they’ve been excitedly looking forward to adding a daughter to their family since last spring…..she probably still has the option at this moment to opt for partial birth abortion if she got to the murderous doctor who would do it.

  10. Sharon says:

    I still foolishly assume that there are limits, I guess, because when I see something like this I immediately realize I wouldn’t have thought he would do that, too., self. Believe it. He has already made it so.

    (BTW–y’all upthread have set out a completely astounding breakfast display–including the before-snooze-music provided by the Puddy. Yer the best…I had too much fun with the family last night, and slept 10 hours and did not get conscious in time to get to church, so here I yam.)

    OH–add about the POTUSinabus…’s also perfectly obvious that this bus is sitting in a garage somewhere…that’s kinda funny. Apparently his advance team couldn’t get them to close down the highway, so they could have it out on the road?

  11. Sharon says:

    …..peace in our time……………..

    Suicide attackers detonated bombs and fired rockets outside a major U.S. base in Afghanistan on Sunday, killing five people in a brazen operation that highlighted the country’s security challenges ahead of the 2014 NATO combat troop pullout.

    Aw, gee. Afghanistan has “security challenges?” Say it isn’t so, Panetta.

  12. WeeWeed says:

    Really. Under Herr Wunderbar’s leadership – how can this be???


    • texan59 says:

      Dubya left such a sh*tty mess that it just took so much more money and well, ya know, a soldier’s gotta do what a soldier does. He didn’t wanta do this, but he had to clean up the mess.

  13. texan59 says:

    Guess who’s plain’ golf today with Crooked Stick, not at Crooked Stick. :evil:

    • ctdar says:

      As usual hes laughing at everyone coz knows media such sychophants won’t touch him where if it was a republican on golf course they’d be ripped apart.

  14. ottawa925 says:

    I see it is someone’s birthday today. Happy Birthday. Dec. 2nd. That’s a special day for me cause that was my father’s birthday. He passed in 1998 on New Year’s eve. Gosh, I miss the old man. Hey, but I’m not gonna get depressed … I want it to be a time to remember all the good times together. You only have one Mother and one Father … cherish every moment they are alive. With that … I took advantage of nice weather we are having here in Chicago, and put up my outdoor Christmas decorations. Grab a cup of coffee and take a minute to gander … it’s sure to put any bad moods or anxiety to rest … enjoy !!

    • Ad rem says:

      Absolutely beautiful….nothing like a little “Stardust” to mellow you out. Photobucket

      • ottawa925 says:

        Ad rem, thank you … you’re a doll. I really didn’t do too much over the last couple of years, but some kind of spirit came over me this year and I decided to give it go.

        • Ad rem says:

          Ottawa….we’re glad that when you decided to give it a go, you got up and wandered over to the Treehouse. I only wish we had a hundred more just like you! But alas, they probably threw away the mold….right? Photobucket

          BTW….Many happy returns of the day regarding your Dad. He must have been a very special person. Photobucket

  15. texan59 says:

    We just finished our lights at Rancho el Gordito. ;)


  16. 22tula says:

    Aaron Klein – Live – Sunday 7PM – 9PM EST

    Investigative Audio Clips

  17. Michelle Hart says:

    new one today from a FB discussion with a fellow patriot.


  18. scubachick75 says:

    I hope it’s ok to ask a personal question on here. I ask here because I know most of you are older than me and have more life experience. Plus you guys always tell it like it is. So my question is….why do grandparents favor one grandchild over the other? Both grandkids are only a year a part in age. We all live in the same city. The favored grandchild (my nephew) will openly admit he is the favored one. I’m just trying to understand why?

    • texan59 says:

      Well, I’m prolly not the one to answer since I was born on my granddad’s birthday. I went from #11 on the depth chart to #1 the day I was born. :D

      Seriously, it happens in every family. We have four and before the 2nd one was born, a family friend told us it would happen. We called BS, but Mrs. Tex does favor the first one over the others – not much, but it is a fact. Think about it this way – do you really like all of your cousins the same? It can’t be done. We spend more time with some. Some are boring. Some are crazy. It is just human nature. IMHO. :D

      • scubachick75 says:

        Thanks Texan! It’s hard for me to understand because I don’t know my extended family except for one cousin and one aunt. I don’t know my grandma on my dad’s side or my grandfather on my mom’s side. I do know that my sister’s always said our mom favors me and I always felt really bad for that. One time she actually told me I was and I’ll never forgive her for that. It’s one thing to think it but another to say it.

    • WeeWeed says:

      Is the other one a little shite?? Sometimes that is a factor. Jus’ sayin.’ ;)

      • scubachick75 says:

        The favored one is! My mother in law admitted in a moment of weakness that she “favored” him more because he needs it….to make up for his parents lack of parenting skills. Which I can understand but do you have to bring my son down in order to make him feel better about himself?

        • Sharon says:

          So she’s not really favoring him–she’s patronizing him, which is manipulation.. She’s giving him false feedback about himself. I don’t see how that can help anyone, regardless of the reason. In answer to your question, “do you have to bring my son down….” I suspect her honest answer would be, “Yes, I think I do.” :(

          Our grandson (mentioned below) was terribly mistreated. It would certainly not be of any help to him if, because of that, I ignored obvious in-my-face behaviors and patterns–as though ignoring present reality could offset past mistreatment.

          This doesn’t sound like a grandchild issue as much as M-I-L simply not grasping the issue of honestly evaluating cause and effect in any relationship.

          • scubachick75 says:

            When I think about it, the way she treats my son and his cousin mirrors the way she treats her son (my husband) and her daughter ( my husband’s sister).

    • Sharon says:

      The same is true with our own children, I think. It really bothered me for much of my “parenting years” (which never end, of course) because I knew I reacted differently to our two sons, I knew my mindset was not the same….until finally I sat down and told myself off! Our older son had lots of behavioral issues through his younger years, so it was logical that I was more anxious when I heard his brother yelling, than I would be if I heard him yelling. I don’t think the problem is so much the perceived (and very often–real) favoritism. I think our problem is that, like texan59 points out, our expectation that we (and grandparents) should treat every one the same. That’s not realistic. I loved them equally. I did not treat them equally and it would have been a disaster if I had.

      I feel no need to deny that I do not treat my grandchildren all exactly alike. That does not necessarily mean I “have favorites.” Maybe that is a misnomer that should be set aside–I treat them differently because my experiences with them have varied. One grandson lies frequently…could that have to do with severe physical and emotional abuse received from a stepmom? I’m guessin, yeah, it could. So I don’t “blame” him–but I know lying is an issue for him, therefore I relate to him differently. So he could accuse me, I suppose, of “favoring” other grandchildren. I have another grandson who looks me in the eye when we talk, and jabs me in the ribs when he’s teasing me. I respond to him quite differently.

      Grandparents are just people. And the relationships with their grandchildren are, first and foremost, really just relationships with people. The label “grandchild” doesn’t change that reality. Out of 19 grandchildren, my mother had one grandson who just stood in attendance on her until the day she died–and frankly, I enjoyed watching it. We always knew that B would send her flowers on her birthday, and on Christmas, and on Easter, and on Bastille Day for all I know! And it was his genuine heart just reaching out to her. Being a grandchild really is not a competitive activity. ;) Encourage the grandchildren to understand that…. as much as possible. .

      • scubachick75 says:

        Sharon, Thank you for your honesty. I have an only child but I always wondered how mothers with more than one felt. My son knows better than to compete with his cousin when it comes to grandparents. It’s honestly a losing battle. He takes it very well considering what he has to put up with. My mother in law blames me for it usually because I wouldn’t dump my child off at her house for days at a time like my sister in law did. I felt like it was my child and my responsibility to raise him. Besides I always heard them complain that they have my nephew. I always told them they were more than welcome to take him places or spend time with him anytime they wanted but I refuse to ask them to babysit. My biggest issue is money =love to them. I didn’t want my son to see dollar signs every time he saw his grandparents, like the other one does. Silly me, seems I’ve been doing all wrong.

        Wow!! 18 grandkids! I’m just in awe! Thank you for sharing your perspective. You’ve given me a lot to think about.

        • Sharon says:

          I say with this with good cheer–encouraged by your apparent common sense: it’s only a losing battle if you feel compelled to fight it on her terms or fight it at all. When family members rig the game against an individual or a portion of the family, the family members against whom it has been rigged always have the choice to stop playing according to those rules. We can still choose to participate as family, but don’t have to be yielding all the time. We do get to choose how we function, even with family members who think we don’t! ;)

          It’s not easy and not always neat. But our individual sanity and our own homes are more important, both in the short run and long run, than pleasing those who are, for the most part, never particularly content in their own lives anyway. Sounds like your son is doing pretty well with your support and help.

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